supermegashow - Peter Jackson's Fat Albert | supermegashow - 079

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey there, it's Heather McDonnell from JuicySoup, and I have the juiciest of them all on Audible. Romance has always been a crowd-placing genre on their platform, and there's more to imagine when you listen to their expansive collection. They have audiobooks to satisfy every side of you. I'm talking about the Romantasy genre, which is huge on book talk right now, with authors like Sarah J. Mass and Devney Perry. Get your first great love story for free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at
Starting point is 00:00:29 Audible.com. Oh, got a text from my uncle. He's been having horrible sleep, and luckily, he's asking for my advice. That's because I have the knowledge of Brooklyn bedding. They actually sent us a big, beautiful mattress, and might I say, it is big, beautiful, and fun. Come on. BBF.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I've never had such wondrous joy playing on such a comfortable mattress that they sent us. One might say, I had the most fun a little boy could ever have. So go on over to brooklynbending.com and use our code supermega to get 30% off site wide. Put that in red text, Luke. Big, bold, beautiful, italicized, and underlined. This offer is not available anywhere else. So use our code, please. Super Mega is the code at brooklynbetting.com.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Again, that's Brooklynbetting.com. Code super mega for a site wide 30% off. If you know myself and Ryan, you know that we just can't get enough Jack Skellington. That's right, Jack freaking Skellington. Unfortunately, all the stores we go to don't have any awesome Jack Skellington merch. All the stores that is, except Box Lunch. Box Lunch is a one-stop shop for apparel, home decor and collectibles inspired by our favorite fandoms. If you're into anime, superheroes, sports, studio Ghibli, video games, whatever you can think of.
Starting point is 00:01:55 This spot has got you covered. Ryan and I went to Box Lunch, and they had all sorts of Jack Skellington stuff, and I got so emotional, and Ryan, I got an awesome hoodie, I got a little figurine, and I, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And listen to this. Not only can you get your favorite merch, you can make an impact, too. For every $10 you spend, Box Lunch will help donate one meal through their partnership with Feeding America. Over 10 years of giving, 250 million meals have been donated to food banks across the country. You can also score board games, trading cards, and blind boxes. So, do what your favorite podcasters Matt and Ryan did. And go check out Box Lunch.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Use Code Super30 at checkout for 30% off your entire purchase at Boxlunch.com, not combinable with any other offer. Follow Box Lunch for more fandom at Box Lunch Gifts on social media channels. And don't forget, that's Code Super30 at Boxlunch.com. So I was thinking this time for a cold open, just because people complain all the time about how much they want video. games i could do we could we could we could throw in like a super short let's play that's like you know just like 30 seconds just to kind of appease those people okay yeah i i think that'll
Starting point is 00:03:05 work what do you want to play some ping pong all right welcome everyone that's the is it our first time playing pong on the channel yeah i think so okay let's do um i'll do mouse that seems fine all right feeling a little crazy We always got to start somewhere. Yeah, start, start easy. Oh, oh, sorry, I didn't realize how. Which one of you? I'm the right one.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Okay. I thought I would be the left one. Yeah, I thought so too, but I, you know, we don't always get what we want. Easy peasy. But we got what we wanted right there, because we didn't get what we wanted right there or right there. What you do? Dude, come on.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Wait, hold up, I got this. You know, I was just... Come on, man. I just, I have to whoop you off. See that? Watch this. Yeah, that's pretty nice. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Boop! Fuck! He's Markipliering me right now. Don't bring him off. Sorry, it's our quota. Do you think I can pull this off? Uh, me asking, uh, me when I'm wearing an incredibly tight sweater, and I feel like I'm not gonna be able to get it off,
Starting point is 00:04:19 but I ask my roommate Ryan, uh, when I'm wearing it, if, if he thinks I'll be able to pull it off. This is a close game, dude. What does it go to? What do you think? I think it's infinite, man. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Well, then I at least need to just get over him. Wait, I am. I'm winning. Winning, you know? Luke, go ahead. First of ten is the winner. Almost there. Ooh, that skits.
Starting point is 00:04:43 We're gonna win. We're gonna win. Did you have any dreams last night? Uh... Oh, fuck. Yeah, actually. I did. I had actually like a pretty crazy dream.
Starting point is 00:04:53 pretty crazy dream about so basically I was like on I think I was in Africa and I was on a safari oh yes welcome one-in-all-to-all-to-you-w welcome one and all to this glorious, glorious brand new episode of Super Mega Show. That's right. It's 80. Number 80 or 79. 80 or 79? It's one of those.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Who knows at this point? There's so many. There's so many and there's so many episodes of Super Mega cast. Who gives an F? Only because we're so hard working. That's right. And Luke. Luke works pretty hard too. And you guys all work pretty hard too. And you guys all work pretty hard by listening to all these hours of podcasts. He took Labor Day off.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I know. Today's September 1st. It's Labor Day. And he's like, oh, I got to take today off. I'm like, Luke, why do you take it today off? Oh, it's a federal holiday. Also, did you notice he started like, like, he started buying a bunch of, like, he got a new TV. He got a new kind of PlayStation 5 Pro. He said he just came into like, well, I can't remember. It was like $60,000 or something recently.
Starting point is 00:06:20 He said he signed up. for something and it kind of paid and it like paid off well he didn't and he got the job or whatever like he has like a side gig he didn't tell me anything I just thought that he was just managing his finance as well yeah well congratulations to Luke that PS5 pro we're PS5 pro buddies now I'm not I don't have a PS5 you should get a PS5 pro why how much money does it cost Can you put a price on a smile, Matthew? Can you put a price on happiness? Yeah, you can definitely put a price on a smile and happiness.
Starting point is 00:07:03 And they just up the PS5 Pro price, didn't it? Less than those stupid fucking paintings. I'm kidding. Those are going to be worth a lot one day. By the way, they're not paintings, Ryan. They're prints. They were printed with a printer, not painted with a paintbrush. And they're signed by Ringo fucking star.
Starting point is 00:07:18 They are. That's the thing that makes them. no it's the it's the it's the artwork that makes the print it's the it's the substance of the art that makes it what what it costs it's just an nfti it's the signature that makes it come on you know that yeah honestly like this is before nfts when i when i bought these when i uh made the grand decision to purchase uh ringo star originals and put them and i had it looked wonderful i mean here's the thing dude I didn't uh for those who were curious look up your baby y-e-r or actually look just throw it up on screen this is a Ringo stars original piece he made
Starting point is 00:07:59 and he was selling prints of it and I bought one and they're like there's only I think a hundred of them in the world or maybe 50 of them I don't remember okay but he signed them all and I bought one I thought it was going to be maybe like you know this big you know just like a regular you know something I could put on the wall and be like like ha ha that's funny it showed up and it's like four feet by like three feet which if those you don't know think of like a foot and then multiply that by four one way and then three another way I know so which when you put it into that perspective it's like yeah it's like a meter for all of you non-Americans it's like a it's like a it's more than a
Starting point is 00:08:45 meter in one direction well it's like exactly a yard yeah you know and then it's like a one in a third yard the other way i actually have no fucking clue how big a yard is three feet no wait really uh-huh a yard's just three feet uh-huh right i can't i can't remember if it's one of those things where it's like a yard's three feet or like a yard's about three feet but our system's so stupid dude i wish we make you're making me question what i know but you're making me question what i know but you Wouldn't you think, like, you know, if we use metric, we wouldn't have to question that. It's like, oh, it's a meter is 100 centimeters. But anyway, yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And then I didn't want to, well, I was going to put it on the wall regardless as like a little funny thing. But then when I got it, I'm like, okay, I have to put this on the wall, even though I don't really want to at this size. But it would be, it's like the sunk cost fallacy. You know, it's like I already spent the month. I have the print I guess I'm not just going to put it in storage You're just waiting until he dies
Starting point is 00:09:53 I'm not waiting until the man dies A little bit Because then they'll be worth a lot Especially with that signature It probably not Like I probably really Jump the gun on that And there's just
Starting point is 00:10:06 He's gonna die And the value is just gonna stay the exact same Maybe go down a little bit Oh you can have some hope yeah not like raising hope the show fantastic show i haven't seen it what a random ass fucking like is that what it's called yeah yeah you're thinking it's like it's like a fucking like cbs sitcom right oh yeah yeah that's like some shit my mom would watch what's the one that started out with shy what something woodley what's her name shyleen woodley she's from like the divergent series or she
Starting point is 00:10:44 was in that cancer movie with uh yeah the fault mar stars yes i know who you're talking about she was in some other movie believe it or not dude i watched the fault actress was in another movie you sure about that oh yeah i think that was her it was called like something it was about like a teenage pregnancy or something teen mom she was just on teen mom no hold up what is that show called, hold up, shy, lean, woodley. Wait, are you talking, dude, do you remember that show? My Life is an American Teenager? Yes, that's what I was about to say.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Do you remember that show? Does she get pregnant in that or did I, okay, okay. It's about, there is a pregnancy in it. Okay, yeah. My life is an American teenager. She was in that. That's where, I don't know if she got her start there, but. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Great show. I remember seeing the promos for that show on TV and being like, oh my God, I can't watch that. That's way, that's way too inappropriate for me. Having pre-marital sex Drinking alcohol? Good Lord Jeez
Starting point is 00:11:44 I did watch 16 and pregnant though I did watch Teen Mom on MTV Isn't that what the show was called 16 and pregnant I think they did both I think they had like 16 and pregnant And then they're like for like
Starting point is 00:11:58 Oh yeah they had like the other Yep yep yep yep It's like well we can't make any more episodes Because she had the baby so let's make another show Where she has the baby now How about next Next? Love that show
Starting point is 00:12:09 show pretty good how about parental control dude parental control that was an awesome one that shit was awesome it's like so obviously staged looking bad it's all staged yeah but like next if you if you read the bios of like the people when they get off the bus on next you're like there's no there's no way that this is like their their actual bio um but yeah I watched the fault in our stars and uh congratulations thank you thank you so much it's a milestone like watching the type Titanic and I love the Titanic or the live action fat Albert movie and it's also I same kind of yeah it's up there with Titanic and the Lord of the Ring trilogy but I think fat Albert live action gets a little should have a little more love we had Peter Jackson got lucky you know three times in a row
Starting point is 00:13:00 Big one Peter Jackson's fat Albert dude I wish yeah God what what he stole him away like what would you've done with it? Like if he actually was assigned by the, by the studios. I don't know. What would be even more interesting is, uh, Guillermo del Toro's Albert. Like a gritty reboot. It's just Albert. Drop the fat. We don't fat shame anymore. Yeah, we don't fat shame. It's just Albert. Hey, hey, hey. I'm doing the Keenan Thompson impression, not the, not the William Cosby impression. Is Bill short for William? I actually was about to say. I feel like I don't think anyone names their kid Bill.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Imagine naming a fucking newborn baby Bill. You know, it's like this beautiful little baby boy, and it's like, what is his name? Bill. Bill Do-Trieve. Bill Cosby. They're both bald. I hope that's all they have in common. Hopefully, because I like Bill Do-Trieve.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I mean, he's a creep, but in a sweet way, I guess. Yeah, he's one of the. those creeps where it's like, this guy's a real fucking creep. Thank God he's not handsome or else he, my wife might have an affair with him. Exactly. So, uh, meaning Peggy Hill, Hank's wife, Peggy Hill might have it. You're speaking from the perspective of Hank Hill. Yes, because Bill Dutrieve does have a little crush on Peggy Hill.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Oh, yeah. That's awkward? A bit of an infatuation. Yikes. Bill's lonely. He's very lonely. I remember there's that episode where he dresses up in women's clothing because he... In his ex-wife's dress.
Starting point is 00:14:37 That's right. It starts acting like, Lenore. That's right. That's right. And then he has a, yeah, there's so many, like, episodes in that show where, like, a character has, like, not just, like, a funny breakdown. Like a mental health crisis. Like, a life-altering mental health crisis. Like, there was this, like, in a span of in season, like, five or six, there's a span of, like, two episodes right near each other within, like, a three, four episode thing where, like, Dale loses his grip on reality.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He's like, oh, my God. he's like crying in the shower. One is about losing his wife. Which we've all been there. We've all had that kind of breakdown. And that's one that passes. And then the other is about, I don't know. I thought that John Redcorn stuff lasted a lot longer.
Starting point is 00:15:22 They kind of seal that off pretty early on in the grand scheme of the King of the Hill universe. Granted, I don't know what happens after the beginning of season six, so we'll see. I was about to say, I feel like it makes a return. And, yeah, there's a lot of times in that show where a character has something that, like, in reality, like, they would probably have to be, you know, like, they'd have to go to a mental health clinic for, like, for, for, for, like, weeks. Because it's, like, a full-on, maybe, like, schizophrenic episode or, like, a full psychosis episode. And then it's just, like, at the end of the episode, it's just resolved. I know. Or sometimes it's not really resolved.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's just like, eh, it's not resolved, but it's better. better than the breakdown. It's back to normal again. He's just sad all the time. Yeah, Bill's just sad. That's just him. He's just dressing up in his ex-wife's clothing and thinking he's her. He's just, he's sad.
Starting point is 00:16:19 He's got the sads. Well, Dale did that, you know, when the separation first struck the globe. That's what every major news network across the world said. They reported on it when that episode aired. and it was no they reported on your parents divorce i see what you're doing here i thought you were talking about king of the hill and now you're talking about my actual parents actual divorce i was because you're i was drawing a similarity between what bill did by dressing up as his ex-wife because he felt lonely and betrayed and what your dad did um i was hoping you weren't going to bring that up except
Starting point is 00:16:59 he hired someone to play himself again these details aren't things that you know the the court were sealed still are sealed and I told you this stuff in confidence is a best friend so it's like you know you know we all have you know I say I mean I'm talking about on a podcast let's just say that yeah of course I'm just saying I sympathize with you know we all like if we had a clone would we fuck the clone I think a lot of people would have sex with a clone your dad just kind of we can't make clones obviously with science so we did the next best thing I guess and maybe there was some sort of like mental thing of like you know him being your mom and there being a dale I will say
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's actually, don't keep this in, Luke, it's insanely impressive how similar, like, he was, he was able to find a lookalike that close. Yeah. Especially in South Carolina, right? Because it's like, I would think, you know, especially going through the mental episode, my dad was going through, he would just find some random person off the street. Some bald guy. This was like, this was spot on. Yeah. Almost looked like, like, your dad doesn't have any.
Starting point is 00:18:06 male siblings. Not that I know of, but hell, I mean, I didn't know I, I had a brother until, well, neither did he, granted, so. I always see people asking about that. Is that a bit? It's not a bit. I genuinely, I have a half-brother. He's 42, I believe. Yep. And three feet tall. Yeah. That's why they call him the half-brother. Good thing I didn't get those jeans. Those skipped me, went straight to him. Well, he has to wear specific kind of jeans because they can only make certain ones in its size.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I wouldn't be able to fit into them. They would look like shorts. It's like between toddler and like... Man. Yeah. Between toddler and man. Like some fucking like 50s black and white. The 50 foot toddler.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I like I like the idea of like a very dated twilight zone episode about a little. It's just about a little person. It's just like, imagine. will. A man who is not quite short but not quite tall. Spooky stuff. He's got the proportions in his chest and head of a grown man, but the arms and legs of a toddler. How would you drive a vehicle? I mean, they did do an episode where it's like, imagine you were a black person. They did? Wasn't, or no, I guess a homeless person. I can't remember, I can't remember which one it was it was like a rich exec
Starting point is 00:19:35 switches places with like someone who's like destitute hard on times or something so it was like a taught a nice moral and then he dies at the end or something okay I never saw it it was only explained to me and it's like a game of telephone and now you're explaining it to your audience into me
Starting point is 00:19:54 it was explained to me over a decade ago and I only that one time and I'm parroting it at the best of my ability that I mean my need my needs neurons for some reason decided the fire in that direction decided to go I just remembered I just remembered holy shit that I looked on prom night you've I know yeah that's not something I forget I wore my uh silver crocs I know you match my silver suit I know and I took those I took those suckers right off at the end of the night I even painted my body full silver I know I think I look good
Starting point is 00:20:33 I just, you shouldn't use the paint with the cadmium. Yeah, well. The hospital, it was very expensive. You were in there for two weeks. What were you going to bring up? I was going to say, I remember, you know, remember, like, you can go to the library and you could get, like, DVDs. You can still do that. But, you know, it's like, they don't have the same selection that, like, Blockbuster would have.
Starting point is 00:20:58 They would have, like, more obscure older movies and stuff. Yeah, like things based on books. Yeah, so I remember my dad came home once with a couple, a couple DVDs. And one of them was a movie called Watermelon Man. And I remember we watched it, a little father's son excursion. And this is back at a time where you truly are, when you go rent a movie or something, you're judging the book by its cover. It's like, oh, that's a cool.
Starting point is 00:21:29 So something attracted your dad. I got to see what attracted your dad to get this movie. Read the synopsis of this movie. Hold on. I want to see the cover because this is what your dad saw at the library. And he went, oh, this would be good. And Matthew, we'll have a good father-son bonding time watching this one. Secret Life of an American teenager ran five seasons, by the way.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Okay. No, there's a song. I'm looking for movie. Hold on. Sorry. Maybe the watermelon man? I don't know. It's an old movie
Starting point is 00:22:03 Like I want to say it's from like the 60s or early 70s I might have to connect to the Orby real quick Oh let me guess your internet is fucking just All over the place The Orby's not even showing up Yeah dude we got internet problems today Okay Let me see the cover
Starting point is 00:22:21 See There's there's two covers it could be I'm thinking it was probably this one Yeah it's that one Okay Because then there was this one I mean, yeah, that's, I think, if I remember correctly, was the first one, because I remember looking at the cover, I mean, like, oh. Synopsis' movie came out in 1970, and it is near two hours long. It's a comedy slash drama.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I didn't finish it because I remember it was long, and it wasn't quite piquing my interest. An overview. Hold on, let me clear my passageways of any air. All right. That's nice. A white insurance salesman, Jeff Garber, played by Godfrey Cambridge, gets the surprise of his life when he wakes up and discovers that his skin now resembles a black man's. In a day-to-day life, he soon finds himself the victim of discriminatory practices, the same kinds of behaviors that, ironically, he had once used on black people himself. It's a based movie.
Starting point is 00:23:23 As his wife, Estelle Parsons, leaves him in all attempts toward explain. Sorry. Leaves him in all attempts toward explain and reverse the phenomenal fail. Jeff comes to accept an even profit from his new status. Yeah. So, okay, important distinction. It's not, it's, so it starts as a white man and then becomes black. It's not a white guy that then is in black face.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It's the opposite. It's a, the start of the movie, it's a black guy that's, that's in white face. Yeah. Okay. So, and then he wakes up and he's, he wakes up and he's, And he's black, and he has to go through his life like that. I just remembered that obscure movie, and I don't know why my dad picked that one to bring home. It's like, we could have watched 310 to Yuma or like a cool, like, Spaghetti Western.
Starting point is 00:24:15 That has Christian Bale and The Gladiator Man in it. Well, I'm not talking about the remake. I'm talking about the original. Oh. The Clint Eastwood joint. Boring. The Clint Eastwood do the original? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Spaghetti Jones might have done the original. Clint Eastwood did the the quick the something and the the ugly the quick the dead and the bad and the ugly yeah that's it the quick the dead the bad and the ugly
Starting point is 00:24:40 starring Clint Jones you know oh yeah you know his son kind of looks similar to him Clint Eastwood really why you know sometimes that happens I don't know it's crazy how these gene stuff works
Starting point is 00:24:53 speaking of last two episodes really focused on Not just jeans, but Jorts in particular. And Dan focused on denim, yeah. All around, in general, yeah. Oh. We were trying to hold back this episode. You really notice there's not a, there's no denim in sight.
Starting point is 00:25:11 This is a denimless episode. It's a denim, denim free zone. Exactly. This is the denim free zone. No denim allowed. No. Absolutely not. However, if you are a fan of denim, you're going to love these ad reads because...
Starting point is 00:25:26 I'm sure you can incorporate some denim. subject matter within them. And if we remember to record the ads with inserting some sort of denim advertisement, there might just be absolutely no reference to denim at all on these ads. Regardless, enjoy. Hello, you guys, it's Heather McDonald and I have a juicy scoop for you on Audible.
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Starting point is 00:28:03 our code SuperMega to get 30% off site wide. Put that in red text, Luke. Big, bold, beautiful, italicized, and underlined. This offer is not available anywhere else. So use our code. Please, SuperMega is the code at Brooklynbending.com. Again, that's Brooklynbetting.com. Supermega for a site wide 30% off Brooklyn bedding.com promo code supermega 30% off side wide if you know myself and Ryan you know that we just can't get enough Jack Skellington that's right Jack freaking Skellington unfortunately all the stores we go to don't have any awesome Jack Skellington merch all the stores that is except box lunch box lunch is a one-stop shop for apparel, home decor, and collectibles inspired by our favorite
Starting point is 00:28:57 fandoms. If you're into anime, superheroes, sports, studio jibly, video games, whatever you can think of, this spot has got you covered. Ryan and I went to box lunch, and they had all sorts of Jack Skellington stuff, and I got so emotional, and Ryan, I got an awesome hoodie, I got a little figurine, and I... I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And listen to this. Not only can you get your favorite merch, you can make an impact, too. For every $10 you see, you see, you spend, Box Lunch will help donate one meal through their partnership with Feeding America. Over 10 years of giving, 250 million meals have been donated to food banks across the country. You can also score board games, trading cards, and blind boxes.
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Starting point is 00:30:13 Does she fall in love with the Nazi in that movie? I think so. Okay. And then he converts her and she becomes a Nazi. That was the version my dad brought home from the live. your dad recorded personal like he rented out like a like a theater like a local theater and got all of his friends to reenact certain movies and he refilmed them just so he could have the better dale's versions but it's only like it only starts like at the part where he wants
Starting point is 00:30:44 the movie to change so the first half of the movie is like you know the original then all a sudden it's like this janky-ass dark theater hall wide shot from like about My dad and a beautiful blonde wig coming out. God, your dad's cute as a button. God, he is. Oh, fuck, dude. Woo! You know, he, every now and then will bring up to me something we talk about on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm just like, oh, so you do listen. He misses you. You do listen. Uh-oh. I mean, it's not gotten you into too much trouble. Yeah. I mean, I doubt there's not much. I will say there's not much you can do after the music video.
Starting point is 00:31:32 There was no music video. Sorry, the rap song. Someone animated a little music video type thing, did a little animated of the song. That's right. That's right. But we didn't pay for it. No, I did. He did that out of his own volition.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Brandon Turner? Brandon Sanderson? What are you talking about? Huh? It wasn't Brandon Sanderson. He doesn't animate. Gorgeous glasses. They're great glasses.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Green? Mm-hmm. Matches your shirt. Oh, you're talking about my glasses. Thanks, man. They're little like green, huh? They are green, yeah. There's some green on your hat.
Starting point is 00:32:09 There's some green on your shirt. There's some green in your eyes. There's not green in my eyes. A little bit of green. No, there's not. It just depends on when I'm wearing. It might come across that way. They're blue, though.
Starting point is 00:32:19 It's no, it's not. No, they don't. No, they absolutely don't. So there's a little bit. Technically, there's a little. little bit of green but it's not how that works
Starting point is 00:32:25 right next to each if you know color theory you know that's not how that works at all just drop it
Starting point is 00:32:29 just drop it there's an infinite stop fuck you dude I'm just trying to
Starting point is 00:32:36 compliment don't take away my blueberries man that's all I have going
Starting point is 00:32:39 for me I'm just trying to compliment your beautiful green eyes dude yeah
Starting point is 00:32:44 now you're gonna get a lot of fan art that has green eyes and so oh I
Starting point is 00:32:47 better know oh yeah oh yeah buddy does he have green eyes or
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm going to start that discussion. You're wearing green glasses, though. Yeah. Well, yeah, so I decided to start wearing glasses again. Which you do have green on your hat and your shirt. Yeah, you've pointed that out, Ryan. You know, I started wearing glasses again because my vision's been shit. So I got a new pair.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And I got these because they're, I like it because they're green. And I wasn't sure if I liked them or not. But, you know, they've grown on me. Have they? They've gotten larger. Hey, right? You get like a little water. dropper in the water make
Starting point is 00:33:24 yeah every uh like those shitty like dinosaur foam glasses you know every night before bed and you know I put them on the bedside table and go I mean I wake up and they're a little bit bigger I will say even as a kid I was very disappointed by those things what the the capsules the capsules that turn into dinosaurs it took too long and it wasn't visually like interesting to look at at the time at least did you think it was going to be some spy kids fucking you throw it in and goes I don't know your imagination goes crazy as a kid, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah, you did have to wait quite a, quite a bit. You think we can get custom ones made? Oh, I'm sure. Like a red and blue one? Yeah. Why don't we have, why don't we sell bouncy balls? I did find a custom bouncy ball. Yeah, get that out.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I did find a custom bouncy ball manufacturer. Now, before we get into more about the, I want to ask a question about the bouncy balls. and particularly which flavor sorry you know style of bouncy ball you prefer
Starting point is 00:34:28 I'm going to give you two options there's that glossy it's that one bouncy ball I fucking hate the powdery matte
Starting point is 00:34:34 ones absolutely not you don't like the powdery mat you like those I do especially when they're because usually those
Starting point is 00:34:39 dude can be a little like I don't know they can both be clear but there's something about the powdery matte ones where I remember
Starting point is 00:34:47 having a one that did a lot of blinking light shit that was pretty awesome is pretty sick dude the the glossy ones the glossy fucking bouncy balls
Starting point is 00:35:00 dude I want to play with a bouncy ball right now as a kid maybe this will unlock a memory do you remember taking the bouncy ball and just kind of on the sides of it? Oh yeah just chewing on that sucker not like you know biting into it just like feeling the plastic
Starting point is 00:35:12 and whatever against the sides of your teeth just kind of feeling that tension that yeah you know it's amazing how much like dogs we were as kids always gnawing on shit eating shit we shouldn't yeah I mean those bouncy balls when you think about it definitely
Starting point is 00:35:26 were probably made in a facility that probably doesn't do a lot of you know like regulatory checking in terms of like the paint they use or the materials so there's probably plenty of
Starting point is 00:35:41 of toxins in those bouncy balls that we shouldn't have been putting on our mouths but hey but you got them from like those quarter little like turnstom things. And those were, actually, I saw that there were huge recalls back in the day, specifically of the things that were going in the little, like, quarter things. Like at Cece's
Starting point is 00:36:01 pizza. Oh, really? They would have, like, the wall of them. Uh-huh. Yeah, so those, they had huge recalls. Would they, like, tip over? Oh, okay. Like the stuff inside them. Because all the, like, chick, chick, chichlet, whatever it's called, gum, like the gum. Yeah, whatever, what is that called? Chicklets. Chichlets? Okay. They had those. They had, uh, let's see, they had the little, like, sticky things. Oh, you know what my least favorite little quarter turn style toy is? A little trinket. You know what my least favorite
Starting point is 00:36:28 one is? What? The one where it's like a monster that you put on the tip of your finger that has arms on it? Yeah, that's like, it's like, I get that shit at the dentist after I fucking get a fucking hand, you know? I want a slimy hand that I can smack the wall with and gets covered in fucking hair and dust after five minutes of use. Or
Starting point is 00:36:46 a little fucking cylinder of slime. Oh, yeah. you know that's how i'd be with your mom you know what i'm saying hey it takes two to tango yeah it does that's what she does to you too put you upside down your legs you know and she blows a little errand beforehand so when she does it extra extra noise i mean i don't mean to give away the secret but she also goes plants her flag and blows some bubbles yeah she does Palestinian flag absolutely i wouldn't have it any other way Fuck, I'd never have a fucking Israeli flag near my asshole.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Are you kidding me? But yeah, we probably consume some lead as kids. Easily. You know what I like? Like our parents' generation, they love lead. They used to eat the fucking lead flakes up the wall because lead is, it would taste sweet. Oh, wow. And this is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Like, the lead paint flakes on walls, kids used to eat them because they were sweet tasting. So they would be like, mm. And I feel like especially you That would have been something you would have done If you lived back in that era Probably, although I didn't eat this But I do remember as a kid If you found like a brick that had paint on it
Starting point is 00:38:00 And you slowly with your nail kind of chip away at the paint And then you know a green painted brick Becomes a white painted brick See this is what I'm talking about You bring up these like little Very specific random things from when you were a kid That's why I feel like you would have been one of those kids It's like you remember like
Starting point is 00:38:17 Put the chip in your mind mouth and just kind of chew on it a little bit it was sweet remember i'm trying to remember like if there's anything i've definitely i've definitely put that slime in my mouth they're like those like wacky hands well because as a kid you're like there's no way this is harmful for me because they're you know it's like plato's a no-no plato the taste is not awful plato is like the least toxic kids toy you can put in your mouth i hated that how it would get caked in my teeth yeah i know dude i know exactly what you're talking about the feeling and everything. Like when I shut my eyes, I can
Starting point is 00:38:52 like feel Plato in my mouth and I can like feel it between my teeth and I can taste it. And that post-Plateo slime, like that thicker slime on your tongue and the roof of your mouth. Or when you spit it out, it's got that very specific like slime on it. Like the outside of the Plato becomes very
Starting point is 00:39:08 like slick. And you're not getting your Play-Doh back to how it was after that. Can we just take a real quick, just take a little break. We're supposed to swallow? If you want. See, it's that... Like, I feel it...
Starting point is 00:39:29 Like, I feel it... Mmm. Mmm. Mm. See, that's what I'm talking about. Hitchard... Well, I think they do that on purpose now, don't they make it super salty? Ugh.
Starting point is 00:39:44 They over-salted these days. They... There's a... That's way saltier than I remember. let's uh get back uh do a do a fun little bloop luke for a you know a transition so it's not like a and we're back bitch talking to you man oh okay i was like you better not be speaking to our audience that way or your mom because i know she listens she doesn't watch though she does watch she puts it on the television don't stop she she probably has it on a tv and she might
Starting point is 00:40:10 be like in the kitchen making tea or something oh are you cleaning the house sorry i i let my dark a pliers slip a little bit i also want to just say That's not how I see women because when I brought up my mom putting the podcast on, the two examples I used were her in the kitchen and her cleaning the house. That was just completely coincidental. She loves the kitchen. She loves it and she loves cleaning the house. That's just what she likes doing.
Starting point is 00:40:33 That's not representative of all women. Right? Just how your mom thinks all women should behave. Don't say that about her. No, your mom's one of the sweetest ladies. If it wasn't for my mom, you know, she'd be the best. It just started like getting a fucking No my mom's better than you
Starting point is 00:40:54 My mom's actually quite sweeter than your mom Bullshit What did your mom get you for Christmas last year That's for me to know and for you to never find out What are you talking about? It already happened Exactly It's for me to know Because I know it and you don't
Starting point is 00:41:14 And you'll never find out I'm sorry I took that as a future tense thing. It stunned me at first. I had to go back through the sentence I said and be like, hold on. And I'll be honest, the second it came out of my mouth, I kind of cringed because I went, oh, that doesn't make sense. Do you think an apology is, you know, at least like a small apology?
Starting point is 00:41:32 I'm sorry. I don't accept your apology. Why would you ask, why would you ask for one? The least you could do is apologize. I'm sorry, man. That's all I don't accept it. God, what a put down. Kick him all he's down.
Starting point is 00:41:48 just yeah that's that's good uh baseball what did your mom get you for Christmas some like socks and like an Amazon gift card wow how much how much how much was the Amazon gift card probably like anywhere between 50 to $200 oh wow miss money bags probably cool your mom loves you so much Ryan you know what my mom got me? A picture? With Santa Claus? Yeah, she did. She booked me a picture to go sit on Santa's lap and take a picture. It was an early Christmas present. So come Christmas morning, I didn't have anything to, well, I did have something to open. It was the picture. But I already knew what it was going to be. Yeah. But it's nice to see it. I mean, you saw it on the computer before.
Starting point is 00:42:39 They could have just printed it out right there and then, but I think. I saw it from afar. I didn't see. I saw it like appear on the computer after they told you. Your mom told you to go stand over in the corner get far away I don't want to see but you did see kind of like but you can make out the finer details I didn't have my glasses on but I could see it was me um and believe we're in September already dude I can't believe it's September when is this release no this is releasing yeah this is this is releasing pretty soon second week of September yeah right something like that this is releasing yeah I believe so yeah yeah right we're in we're in the Burr months The bur months?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Burr. We've entered the... Like cold months? Well, yes, but also the month the end in Burr. September, October, November, December. The rest of the year, it's burr, baby. Just really speaks of some guy
Starting point is 00:43:31 who was coming up with stuff like the sound of one and went, oh, we'll just end the rest like this. Perfect. It's like he, it's basically like an assignment. They're like, all right, now Augustus, I need you to come up with 12 months. They're going to be on the calendar.
Starting point is 00:43:43 This is what we're going to name them, okay? And he spent, you know, like, he really pushed it off into the last moment. And then he has four left. And he's like, oh, fuck. And it's like late at night. He has to get it done. And he just kind of really just, just. He starts off strong.
Starting point is 00:43:59 January, February. And then he's like, I'm going to mix it up. March. Ooh. April. Hey. You ready for this one? Hey.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Ooh. Okay. June? July. Oh, you thought I was going to say June again. You thought I was going to say June 2. Dude, what if July was just called June 2? January, February, March, April, May, June, June 2.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And then he's just like, September, October, November, December. Oh, yeah, that's good. I'm done, I'm done. And, you know, when he turns those in, they're just like looking at him to like, oh, solid start. Okay. This is all of them? Oh, these aren't just like the idea.
Starting point is 00:44:44 These aren't just like for the first month. No, this is final? This is all like, okay. Okay. Well, I guess we'll put it in the system and that's the months now. And that's how they created the 12 months of Christmas, everyone. This might sound dumb. What do, does, is this just like a global thing?
Starting point is 00:45:05 January through December? Like, are all months? Like, do other cultures have a different month? Yeah. Like, what are they called, I guess? Are there always 12 of these? Or do some of them are like, we have four months divided into, you know. So why would they go by 12?
Starting point is 00:45:26 You know what I mean? I'm trying to, like, do we all just agree on this one thing? So they're pretty rare for humans. The calendar that we use, what's it called? The Gregorian calendar? Yeah. So, I mean, that one's like pretty. Thank God for Gregor.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I know. Thank God. It was just Greg. Thank God. though but I think most of the world uses that but I think that there are that's like the standard one but I think that there are other ones that other cultures use alongside it like I'm pretty sure some countries in the Middle East might use ones where they're in like the year 5,000 where like their calendars just started at a different time I actually it's really weird you bring
Starting point is 00:46:08 this up because last night I had a dream that I was looking at a set of dates and there was an additional one that was in the year like 2450 because Korea used a different calendar system in my dream and it was like the Korean date. So it's weird that you're bringing this up and I had this dream last night. What like when did it just naturally happen or was there a point where everybody was like hey let's all line up make sure we're we're January right now okay? Oh you guys are in March? No no no no that's all that's wrong we got to line it up. Roll it back. It's January.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Like at what point in history did it just kind of become, like, did it just naturally become commonplace or was there some sort of like just kind of like agreement at some point that the major parties of the world all agreed so everyone had to follow suit type of thing? I don't know. I'm looking this up. Because I'm curious. Like, John Green would know. It literally, it went into effect.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Or Hank. Hank probably would know more than John. Hank would definitely know more than John. John's a bastard The Gregorian calendar became a reality in 1582 So what the fuck did they do before that? Dude, so this is only a thing of the last 500 years
Starting point is 00:47:22 When Pope Gregory The 9th or the 8th Reformed the existing Julian calendar To correct the drift of seasonal dates caused By the Julian calendar's slight overestimation Of the solar year Okay But are we just go by that because we're like
Starting point is 00:47:39 You know Western European Like what of like at one point did all cultures just have to assimilate to like the same shit i i mean the thing is it's like and like the seasons do work out that you know it's based on it is based i mean yeah it's it's like a western thing but it is based on the math of like the orbit of the planet around the sun so i'm pretty sure other cultures it would be still like the same even if they split it into different like segments because or their perception of it right right because like a day we could just make the definition if we were early man a day is until
Starting point is 00:48:23 noon and then the second day happens and then that's where you get dark and night and shit like that i see what you're saying you know what it's based on eva like what is it called revolution what is it the revolution yeah the revolution the whatever the sun coming up and down yeah you know it's really interesting i never thought i'm sure that there are cultures where it's like when the sun is out that's a day and then when it's not out that's another day so it's like i mean some some places not even just cultures have to exist where the sun is just gone or there for a majority of like a few months period nordic countries and like in like half a year type of thing Yeah, where it's, like, dark for six months.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I wonder how, I wonder, like, what their original calendars were like, because they, they would have to have used probably, like, the stars as their... It's a long day. They just had two days. The calendar is actually just one day. But so, yeah, the Pope decided for the entirety of the world that this is how it is, like, yeah, this is, uh, let's go ahead and just, uh, get the, to put this one in. Like, I'm still confused, because, as I said, different cultures and stuff, it's hard to
Starting point is 00:49:35 agree on things. I'm surprised we made, was it all like for profit type of thing? Like we're doing business and we have to go and meet the people who are giving us all this money and taking our, I don't know what it is. Yeah, I want to know like the direct history of like really. All right. I found a post on our slash ask history. Okay. When did pretty much? Everyone started knowing what year it was. At what point in history roughly to most people know, yep, now it's 1705 or something. When did we all start having a unified idea of this year? All right, the top comment says, let's see. There's a really long response, and then there is a shorter one.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Is there a TLDR? You know? Because usually at the end of the longer one. There is not. I'm going to skim it really fast, though. Someone's not getting red at gold. Yeah. No one you know two ain't getting no red at gold from me today.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Almost everyone knew what year it was, but not the way we know it now. Our numbering system didn't see wide use until fairly recently. Oh, yeah, because there's a whole bunch of different numbering systems still. We use the Arabic one, but there's like a bunch of other ones. Let's see. People have counted the years since almost forever, but they all use different systems, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Most people didn't start numbering the years until much later. The whole BC AD system didn't exist until Dionysus Exegus invented it in 533 AD, even
Starting point is 00:51:03 then it didn't see use beyond religious ceremonies used to calculate the date of Easter. Interestingly, the year zero doesn't exist in this system. We go from 1 BC to 1 AD with no zero in between. Skipping down a little bit. Yeah, Europe was using this shit. So is it just like the big players were using it so everyone fell in line? Israel uses the Hebrew calendar, which calculated year one as 3,761 BC. There's a handful of others such as the Chinese calendar, the Islamic calendar, the Hindu calendar, the Jew Shea calendar.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So I guess Korea does have their own system. Most of these are strictly internal being used by one country or one religion, and all international trade is conducted using the Gregorian calendar. Yeah, so yeah, okay, money drives. Okay. And then here, there's this, of note, the Gregorian calendar didn't catch on immediately. There were some countries, notably Protestant ones, that refused to use a calendar. invented by a Roman Catholic Pope. Russia was an example who did not start using the Gregorian calendar until after the Russian Revolution in 1918.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Damn. It meant that in the October Revolution, which traditionally began the, blah, blah, blah, blah, actually occurred in November. So the October Revolution actually occurred in November once they made the switch. Well, why don't they rename it? Wow. Pretty cool. I guess that, so yeah, I guess just like as trade expanded, they were like, oh if we it's like we'll meet you at this time in this place on this date and then they converted it wrong
Starting point is 00:52:39 and they're like fuck that was last month yeah yeah so okay fun yeah but you know it's just interesting i guess that you know that does make sense but in my head it was just kind of like a interesting question of like how did all these cultures separated by all this space and time agree on this one thing when most people can't agree what love is, you know what I'm saying? Stop, don't bring that up. Some more ads, maybe.
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Starting point is 00:54:22 Mario. Yep, that's me. Mario. That was my Yoshi impression. dude how the fuck did people like agree on time back in the day where sun sundial oh yeah i guess where it's like i'll meet you here tomorrow at uh midday yeah okay i mean i guess back then they weren't doing things as specifically as like 4 30 and maybe there's a mountain it's like i'll meet you when the sun reaches the peak of blank you know but then again he'll probably
Starting point is 00:54:51 only think from his perspective right because buddy lives on it in another village and he's like late or early because he's like fuck the the geometry is different exactly from his geometry is completely different so like what what's the peak for his friend might be you know over here for him idiot cabman oh dude someone needs to make a fun caveman RPG we could do that yeah they go again with another fucking game idea they'll never make fuck them but i'm saying because like we only have so many tools at our disposal i think like what we would be able to caveman, like, of course, but it would be like a, um, I don't know, it just with, okay, I have a question, because I see this type of stuff all the time on, let's say, R slash Souls likes or
Starting point is 00:55:39 R slash gaming, where it's like this one developer's like, hey, I, it's all me, here's a game I'm testing. And it's like a 3D environment with a guy with a sword and it looks like decent. And in my head, I'm just like, is it just because technology has gotten so good that now one guy, can create something that, of course, looks flashy and probably doesn't play all too well if you give it to, like, a person, it's mostly for show. But it's like how much, like, how much work and how much human power is necessary for a 2D project versus a 3D project? Do you think at this point in time it's more due to art direction, or do you think it's still
Starting point is 00:56:21 like would take more time and more of a budget for a 3D game to be made versus a 2D game. Well, I think from my limited game design experience, 2D is always going to be like easier to make in the sense of like it's not, you're working with two dimensions. And when you add a third dimension, the programming and the math and everything becomes more complex. So it's like a two-dimensional game, I think, depending on what it is, usually is going to be a lot less work.
Starting point is 00:56:51 You can do a lot more with your budget in a 2D atmosphere than you. can a 3D space. And again, I'm not a game designer. I'm sure there's some game designers listening going, that's just wrong, which I might be. But I'd love to see in the comments just people talking about it. Like, honestly, like I'll, I don't go to the comments too often, but it's nice to see discussion every now and then. I'd be interested. Like, uh, I've tried to make games with friends since I was in like seventh grade. And, and I, we've tried to make 3D games in the past. And that has always just been a whole hell of a lot harder. Someone would say a whole can of worms.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah, absolutely. Even though they're going to stay in the can. I'm not taking them out of the damn. All right? But basically, yeah, 2D I think is a lot easier. However, there are like a lot of engines and pre-made stuff
Starting point is 00:57:43 that people could use for 3D now where like a lot of people will, you know, there will already be a whole engine made that they can start with as like the framework. Like I feel like Unreal 5. Yeah. Like Unreal Engine 5.
Starting point is 00:57:55 is that, I mean, people have a lot of problems with it, but... Like, source or... From my understanding, does Unreal Engine mean that, like, developers don't have to fuck so much with the math of physics and just, like, other... I think so. Like, Unreal Engine gives them the framework, and, like, what are the... Because... I think it already has, like...
Starting point is 00:58:16 From what I understand, and again, could be completely wrong, because I've... I have never fucked with programming anything... We're not game developers. I think that something like Unreal Engine is basically... Basically, it's like the foundational kit to build something where it already has all of this stuff programmed that you can tweak. So you don't have to build it from scratch. And it looks pretty. It's like physics and stuff.
Starting point is 00:58:39 You don't have to build an entire physics system from scratch. You can tweak what's already there. That's why a lot of the lighting and everything. Because a lot of people are getting into like, let's say, like Blacksmith Wukong, that monkey game we played on live stream. It looks beautiful. but like did people really have to go into the environment and do as much work to make it look that pretty or is it just like assets that they can easily slap on and they have the lighting and Unreal Engine is already kind of like maybe solved for them I just picture like there's a lot of games that look so good now is a game just looking good like is it no longer a testament much like in movies how you saw like good CG meant something. at a time where now it's just CG. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I think getting a game to look good still is because, like, you know, like, yeah, I guess you could throw it, you could, like, download some free to use assets and throw them into, like, an unreal world, and it could look good. But I feel like getting it to a point where, like, it actually looks good and also plays well, like, regardless, I feel like the programming, like, you have to be smart to be able to put all that together and to like make it work and look good you have to be talented to some degree
Starting point is 00:59:59 right right right but I guess what I'm saying is it like I guess it's more tools for you stuff to know how to program like double A studios to make games that fidelity wise visually look similar to AAA titles yeah and a lot sometimes even better I think
Starting point is 01:00:14 because AAA developers have gotten really lazy because they've started to kind of do what every company has to do to survive which is like streamline their shit I mean, I've seen examples of people that have used engines like Godot or even construct that have made 3D games completely by themselves that look fucking incredible. And I'm like, damn. And they did this like kind of from the ground up. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So I think it's, I think the tools are only one part. It's the tool master. That's where a lot of it comes from. because I'm always the thing that I'm always intrigued on is like I love seeing something that's designed sometimes I you know in games I'm like in awe of like how does someone just think of this and make it work and all this but for me it's like the weight and movement of your character in the game and how good it feels to like move around a world like that's a type of like such like an intricate math where it's like I've played games that look great but the character feels stiff to move around or like a boat like very flowy. I mean, that's all stuff that that the programmers like individually programmed for their game. Because like I
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm assuming with Unreal Engine there is like a very vast physics engine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they take that physics engine and then they tweak the variables to fit what you know, they want their game to feel like. So it's like if they want everything to feel super slick
Starting point is 01:01:44 and light like gravity wise and everything or if a game feels super stiff, it's about different variables that they've tweaked and like, uh, it's gotta be hard though to calculate that. Yeah, it's gotta be really hard. That's why I've never been good at programming. I've tried to learn programming multiple languages so many times where I sit down and
Starting point is 01:02:02 I'm like super motivated and I'm like, I'm gonna learn how to do this this month. And I do like 10 lessons or I even complete a full course and then I'm like, I have no idea. Like my brain is very visual, uh, which is why I like using logic as a, uh, as a DAW instead of like Ableton because logic is very visual. Just programming is hard for me because it's a lot of math and I suck at math and also it's a lot of logic, not like the music program I was just talking about. It's a lot of game logic and that shit is difficult, very difficult. I commend games that feel good to play.
Starting point is 01:02:40 There's some games where you know it's just like it feels like butter to play where it's like oh damn, this feels smooth, slick. Cave Story feels like. Cave Story to me is an example of a 2D. game that has that like the physics are so fucking nice where it's like the uh it when you're like running and jumping it feels so smooth and buttery because you can't explain it but like you you like it's uh you know i like people when they lose them it's like a phantom limb it's like you can feel the weight like i don't it's not like you're a fucking psychic or anything but you
Starting point is 01:03:13 know what you're talking about you can feel it when you're playing it there's like this if it's good and it and then people did a good job with like the coding and stuff it just I don't know because there's so many games
Starting point is 01:03:25 that I've played where it's really just like left right and it feels like just the same speed like at one base speed I feel like and it like just feels very
Starting point is 01:03:34 mechanical to control I guess is the best way I put it I feel like it's because when you're playing a game you can like a 3D game for example
Starting point is 01:03:43 and you're moving around you can you can can like imagine yourself as the player because you're controlling the player and it's doing what you wanted to do so it's kind of like an extension of you and if it doesn't feel like how you expect it to or how you want it to it doesn't you know it's not going to feel very good but like if you're playing something where it feels a lot more like free and and more how you want to be like freely moving than it feels like a lot better and it all makes sense within like the game
Starting point is 01:04:16 universe right or whatever just uh what's a game that feels clunky to you a game that feels clunky to me to to play would be and this is you know i'm going to bring up one that's easy because i think it does a good job at illustrating just like how dated a game could be it would be like kind of uh it's still fun and i still enjoy it but resident evil five for example feels clunky to play because there's still a lot of like archaic just kind of like quick time events that happen in the middle of cut scenes that typically don't happen anymore. There's just a lot of, like, there's no, and I guess it's done for gameplay purposes, but since this is more of an action game, I could have, it could have, would have been better without it. I think you, you can't walk and aim at the
Starting point is 01:04:58 same time in it. You're like, boom, rotating aim. Then you move. Like real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you can run and shoot at the same time in real life, but, you know, your accuracy is going to go, and that's usually how games do it. Like, I guess so much, that, that is more clunky of, like, age-based thing but then in i'm trying to think of like a recent game that felt clunky i would say would be woo chong before a certain patch because it's a very fast combat game but certain moves of enemies and they certain bosses would have like every move felt like it would do this where it would knock you down and typically in a combat game you can like dodge right back up or do something to get up kind of a little more quickly even soul's likes like eldenring if you remember when
Starting point is 01:05:44 you fought that dragon in the video. You could, if you got knocked down, you could, like, roll to get back up pretty quickly. But in that game, before this patch was introduced, you're, like, flat on the ground for, like, one, two, three. And, like, the get-up animation. I think this was the problem. You couldn't cancel out of the get-up animation,
Starting point is 01:06:01 so you had to sit there and watch your character. Get up. Feels like they, like, dust themselves off and shit. Yeah. Where it's, like, in other games, it is a design choice to be able, oh, let's keep the flow of combat. you got knocked down you're getting up whatever yeah let's dodge out of it to keep things going
Starting point is 01:06:18 and I feel like that was an example of like clunkiness by design I guess it doesn't not not intentional design it's almost like it's almost like music where it's almost like there's this like invisible rhythm you know and it's like when when that rhythm gets offbeat or thrown off you feel it you know it's like it's like a good game you want it to like as if it were a song with like rhythm because if you're listening to a song and all of a sudden the rhythm just like you know throws you off
Starting point is 01:06:51 you can tell like the same thing in your brain what's a game that you think has like super super super fluid good like a great example of the opposite of clunky the super Mario brothers my my
Starting point is 01:07:07 my easy go to would be like a secero or something because you feel so, like when you are controlling in Sekaro, when I'm fighting something, I, there's sometimes I get mad and I'm like, that's bullshit, but like I know deep down, like, everything is my fault. I didn't do something or I started to do something I shouldn't have done. Like, it feels very, everything comes together in a very, like, intentional way where it's
Starting point is 01:07:34 like, ah, this was like designed to the T for the combat to feel gratifying and you're learning. It just, it's a great combat system. It doesn't feel like when, when something goes wrong, It doesn't feel like, oh, I was trying to do that, but the game fucked me over because, you know, I couldn't, it wouldn't let me do that fast enough. There's another game recently that's not the do with combat that I think you might enjoy. The only problem is that it's like a very short game and it costs $30. It's called Sword of the Sea. And it's a really fun. It's made by the people who did a journey, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like that. They did Abzu, too, right? Yes. Yeah. So it's that. I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I saw a video of this game. Feels wonderful to play. It looks really cool. And I might have platinumed it. is that the one I saw like a trailer where you're like you're like jumping around a lot
Starting point is 01:08:18 yeah you're like you use you have a sword but you don't really hit things with it do you surf on it yeah you surf on it I remember yeah
Starting point is 01:08:25 and you're kind of bringing life to these deserted desert like air expanse by bringing like water and sea life to them it's very like visually it's a beautiful game I do think it's a
Starting point is 01:08:37 little overpriced I think it took me like a total of less than six hours to even platinum the whole thing. But I love the design, and it feels great, like, butter to play. It's like, it's, I do find that a lot of AAA studios will, more so than not, like, it just feels clunky.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Like, Assassin's Creed games these days just all feel like they don't have someone in there, like, really trying to think about the weight and the movement. It's just kind of like, yeah, just make a character so we can put all these side objectives in, fill in the world. old and sell it. Like, I don't know how to expect it. Well, they know people will buy it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:17 You know? Where I feel like smaller studios, that's not a guarantee. So it's like, we have to make the game the best we can possibly make it. So people buy it. Where Assassins Creed, you know, those developers are like, it works. Like, let's take the code from the last game. Yeah. And tweak it.
Starting point is 01:09:34 But I don't know. Maybe we're completely wrong about everything we talked about. And game designers are watching this going, you fucking morons. Prove us wrong in the comments section below. Nice. Right. Just a little bit of engagement. And speaking of game designers, if you look on screen right now, this is a list of every single game designer in the entire world that has ever made a game.
Starting point is 01:09:56 And there's ones with emojis. And those are the ones who have had direct, like director power. Like, they have created masterpieces. Right. And the people on the other list. The green ones. They signed a petition for the Roman Polanski game that got shelved. They signed a petition specifically to bring it back to make sure that it.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And also that, which I'm not showing them support for that. I just think that it should be known that these people. The green ones, yeah. Supported a video game directed by Roman Polanski. Well, if you remember, that petition also included allowing him back into the United States. That's all charges dropped. That is true. So it just, you know, that's what those people did.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I'm sure there's a lot of them have come out since, you know, apologizing and be like, my agent just kind of threw it in front of my face. I didn't know what I was signing. Don't pay attention to the fact that I worked with John C. Riley, by the way, worked with Roman Polansky. Like, not too long ago. No. It was like probably a decade ago.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Like well after everything. It was him, Christoph Waltz, Kate Winslet, and Jody Foster. I like those people. It's called Carnage. I saw it at the time and I didn't know anything about Roman Polanski. I saw it, like, rented it. And I was like, wow. A movie that all takes.
Starting point is 01:11:12 place in one location with actors that I like. Then I figured out who was directed by him. She was down with it. Dude, well, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the Tarantinoster. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The industry is all, it's, it's, it'sicky, it's it's, it's all interconnected. Oh, and Luke wanted us to, here, here's Luke's name, crudely scrolling by as well. Yeah, um, on the, on the, on the Roman Polanski one. Good night. If you know myself and Ryan, you know that we just can't get enough Jack Skellington.
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