supermegashow - We Got Duped By AI | supermegashow - 075

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I have a pretty good idea for a cold open. Yeah. So it's like, uh, so I'll be sitting here and just be acting like nonchalant and I'll come in and I'll say like, like I'll basically I thought of this whole thing where it's like I'm, it's like I'm starting off with this whole like I've been thinking about this and I wanted to talk to you about it and talk about what well let me oh that's like no no let me explain it's like an improv bit like in the moment i'll know no no it it it's like a whole thing i planned out where it's like so i'm sitting here and basically the whole situation revolves around the
Starting point is 00:00:59 You know Cracker Welcome back everyone Just starting with that I mean we are This is exactly what's happening Luke Make it a thing I ain't no Cracker I ain't no Cracker Jack
Starting point is 00:01:17 Cracker Jack You're Cracker Matt Not Cracker Jack you're right You're right about that Senior Matt Dude fuck senior frogs Why no senior mats I've been saying that for years, man.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Dude, dude, start your own, like, summit, you know, a Mexican restaurant, you know, have your chips and salsa, and have, like, some burgers and tacos on the menu, maybe have some mott sticks, you know, classic Mexican cuisine. Hey! I'm not going to finish that impression, actually. I had a good, in my head it was very funny but it would be like what's on the banner and maybe
Starting point is 00:02:03 your mom could whip up like a bit moji of me but I'm like Mexican No that doesn't come cheap Matthew No I know Bit moji Yeah but you know Designed by the Cecile Stronghold
Starting point is 00:02:17 Listen man We got money as a company to spend That's all I'm saying And if you invested a little little more into me. Maybe I can invest a little more into you. Okay? You want me to do? What do you? No, this isn't like distortion or anything. I'm just, if you can get your mom maybe to
Starting point is 00:02:37 if you can like talk to or get the price down a little bit on the Bitmoji commission. Because it would look good on the front of the artist art. I mean, you know, with all these AI artists, you know, it's hard to make a buck because most people go with the cheap, the cheap shit. Bitmoji is not AI. Bitmoji was around before artificial intelligence was it. Bitmoji was a bit bit. Bitmoji was. the first artificial intelligence if you think about it. Matthew, would you believe it?
Starting point is 00:03:02 And hold your breath, viewers. But I was on TikTok, and I saw a video of a piece of art up at a museum, a museum, if you will. And credited was an artist, but then it was like a comma, and then right next to that was AI assisted. And there are multiple pieces up with that. any time like
Starting point is 00:03:30 you can't like I don't I understand creatively I understand for memes and not like really but like I get like why people use it and all that but like for me when I maybe it's just because we're old heads
Starting point is 00:03:47 Matthew but whenever I see like an AI image or an AI video or something there's kind of like there's just like nothing there for me like I'm like oh this is nothing like no a part of the fun of looking at stuff is imagining someone putting in the work to do that like I think that like when you think of like old rotoscope meme type shit too you're like wow someone had the fucking do that shit and now it's just like oh someone typed in a sentence yeah exactly it's like there's nothing
Starting point is 00:04:19 impressive about seeing like an AI image that you know was built out of of someone just typing a prompt. In the beginning, there was like an impressive factor because there was that like, holy shit, a computer did this, but now we're all like used to that. So it's like, okay. Yeah. And anyone has the ability to do that.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Well, and the progression. It doesn't take any talent. Like the progression of the stuff was just like, as you were saying, like it was cool to see a computer do something. And I feel like a part of the fun was watching the progression of like, oh, this is just like, you know, the AI is trying to make the image itself move and so it starts to like contort in weird ways and it doesn't know how to like truly mimic reality and then you go into the next stage where, you know, like people were just like starting to like move erratically. Nobody looked like a person really. If they moved, you could see like some like smearing and stuff. But it's gone to the point where like if you have someone I'm guessing who like really gets into this. they could probably build, like, do a prompt where it's hard to notice a difference.
Starting point is 00:05:31 In fact, I think there's a lot of videos that are big right now for fooling people into thinking that they're real, like the rabbits on a trampoline. I got, it finally happened. I got, uh, you got duped. First time. Because I like to pride myself on thinking, I'm pretty good at, it, when I see like an AI video or picture, usually I can clock it that I, I'm, you know, I'm standing on business when it comes to detecting AI. When my mom was in town, she saw something, and I was like, oh, that's AI. And she was like, how do you know?
Starting point is 00:06:06 And I couldn't, like, explain really. But I was like, I just know that's AI. Like, there's just something about it. And it's like I've seen enough AI to know. And I saw a video. And God, it was embarrassing, dude. I even showed it to someone thinking it was real. And then I went, well, what was the video?
Starting point is 00:06:24 I don't even remember. and I'm Tom Hanks Yeah The Nigerian women And the It looked really real But it wasn't
Starting point is 00:06:38 No no It wasn't real And just But in reality There was a video That you saw That looked real That duped you
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah And after Dude You don't know my embarrassment After I even Showed someone Because then When I realized
Starting point is 00:06:51 Shortly after I was like Oh I should probably tell them now. And I was like, hey, uh, never mind. That was, um, that's fake. That was, that, that was actually AI. So I mean, I looked stupid. I just like, don't know. Like, what, what, what, what, what, what, what's the move now? Like, it's just going to continue to get better exponentially so. Um, so, um, so like, I can't, I can't really predict the future other than
Starting point is 00:07:17 it's going to get worse. Just like our feelings about it and our worries and our, in our, in our, uh, just general problems that we're voicing are just going to become worse. This conversation is going to be so dated at some point. Probably by the time it comes out. Honestly, I would love to hear some of the conversations. I'm sure like in 2016 on our podcast we had conversations about AI. Fuck, even like 2021. Like I'm sure we had conversations about AI that like listening back to now would be just like very funny to listen to.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I mean, even when we did that Picks to Picks video, it's like one of our most viewed videos. That was just, that was mind-blowing to us, and that was a website where it's like you draw... Oh, you drew Doug Walker. I did. Look, show that drawing of Doug Walker, I did. I think it's even a thumbnail. It is.
Starting point is 00:08:08 There it is. That's, uh, that was where AI was at back in like 2016, 2017. Now look at it. Can you believe it? No. Don't show AI, Luke. That's old AI. It's not real AI. so like in general artists are fucked like because i only see this going into like movie studios
Starting point is 00:08:35 are already being kind of caught using it in advertising and marketing and now i'm sure like in movies and stuff i can't remember if we have this conversation on the last podcast i think i think we did either this one or the members only where it's um uh like it what happens when you go to like a Barnes and Noble and those cheap romance novels are now just like AI assisted oh yeah that's a stream yeah yeah okay that was okay the stream you know I never thought about the thing where it's like AI assisted being credited as like a thing so it's like by Matt Watson Ryan McGee AI assisted yep where it's like hey you know it assisted it just like corrected our grammar and stuff yeah fellas I mean it wrote the whole story we gave it a little
Starting point is 00:09:21 human spark to it. We changed a few words out. I mean, we came up with the idea. Well, we came up with like 25% of the idea. We had them, we had chat GPT come up with 10 different versions of the idea and different tones. Yeah, we said, hey, we have this very basic idea. That doesn't really make a lot of sense. Give me 10 different variations where, you know, a movie writer would be proud of the story progression and it's there's no plot holes and it said okay AI assisted that's I mean are they going to even have to credit AI can there be a legal thing if they don't credit it or because it's a tool used by the company just like you wouldn't like in their mind they're like we wouldn't credit the computer software
Starting point is 00:10:07 yeah probably that because I don't think like unless AI is getting at the point where it's demanding rights, like civil rights, where it's like, that's my intellectual property, which maybe, we'll get to that point. I don't know. But who knows? AI is just taking from the public domain. Well, no, not just the public domain. I meant that more of so. It's taken from stuff that is accessible. Yes. It's taking things just from what the general public even puts out. It is taking from. It doesn't, discern between what's copyrighted and what's not. It just trains.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You know, I wonder if our, like, any of our content has been used to train AI. I'm sure it has. Like those, like, the fake podcast episode that was like a year or two ago, where it was like AI podcast episode. Is that technically, you know? See, the thing is like AI is also such a broad blanket term that's used when there's, there's like a lot of different types of things that, you know, I don't think. AI equals bad, but there are ways that AI is used in a way that is, that's, that's, that's not kosher.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And, uh, I don't, I don't know if that is AI where it's like the voice transformation stuff. I don't know like what degree of actual AI that is versus like just, uh, like an algorithm, like a computer algorithm changing something, uh, like figuring out like the computer software, like, when it's recognizing a voice, kind of being like, oh, I want the tones to sound similar to this. So it just knows what to do. So you don't have to finagle and do it, you know, fine-tuning or whatever, how you would do it manually in a software. Actually, something that's very interesting to me is, like, where is the line between AI and what's not AI? Because it is used as such like a blanket term now, and there are so many different
Starting point is 00:12:06 passable AI or, like, what is AI used in a way that's not? because I guess the and I am not well versed in this by the way and I'm not going to pretend to be or whatever but like there are environmental effects that comes with I'm guessing kind of like in a similar fashion
Starting point is 00:12:27 like Bitcoin or something the mass amount of like computing processing power or whatever the power that's needed is bad for the environment when it is used to such a a fucking extensive amount, especially now that we have mainline companies that are like a billion dollar companies that are like mainlining this shit. Yeah, the amount of energy that, uh, like
Starting point is 00:12:52 certain AI things and especially like cryptocurrency and stuff uses is crazy. Like basically to the amount of energy to run these super high in processors and you need so many of them and you need like to supply cooling for all of them and that's a ton of energy. So, uh, I think of like server rooms. But, you know, not in like a, like, I think of, like, visually, like, that's, is that how it's set up? Like, like, a server room filled with, like, computers or? It was, like, essentially, like, a warehouse of just, just, like, processors, just, so, like, a jillians of them. A janky service, a server room. Well, it was, it was set up, like, it wasn't janky, but it was, it was a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And they have to make sure it's cool, so it doesn't explode and piss all over itself. And it looks cool. And it does look cool. Like, they have to have, like, they have to spray paint, like, flames across the, the devices. Which, uh, one of the open AI employees went in and did that recently. Um, he was told no, but he still went in and did it because he's like, this, this makes AI a lot more people are going to get on board with it. He fucked up a lot of the, a huge percentage of them. And, um, because the spray paint just went right inside the motherboards.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And it cost them like $26 billion. You're supposed to cover the parts. Yeah. Yeah. Um, he didn't. he just went in there and naked spray paint. Well, he wasn't in there naked. He had underwear on and socks.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You know, cousin Ford was one socks. I don't want to, I don't want to reveal that was him though. But I guess like I'm still, and you know, I could search this up and I probably will because we're talking about it,
Starting point is 00:14:26 but it's just like I don't know to what capacity which AI is like when is AI doing? that is using a lot. Like chat GPT, I'm guessing, is one of those because it's running. So many people fucking use it, like Google or something. Yeah, I think LLMs do use a lot of those.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And every time you Google something now, it does it. Because Google has their own, like, LLM that is really shitty, by the way. No offense if it's a couple years down the road and Google's AI is listening and now judging me and making decisions about if it wants to keep me alive, or not, I love you, but every time you do a Google search now, it automatically does that for you. There's like an AI overview. Yeah, Google AI overview. And it's gotten some things wrong a lot from whenever I've seen a pop up. I'm like, that's not fucking true. But I'm guessing
Starting point is 00:15:27 like the practices, like if there were practices to stop, you know, it would be like, probably energy based yeah like it like the focus would be on switching to renewable energy that is not damaging the damaging to the environment which is very possible but then you get into the because there's the other argument because there's the environmental one and then there's the ethical argument right um when it comes at like the cost of what we were talking about stuff that is copyrighted and AI not not giving a shit and the company's certainly not giving a shit because it's like, it's like a, I see it as like the Wild West and all like the big billionaires are just like, well, no one else can pay to fucking mine up all this gold.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And so that's what, that's what they're doing, figuratively speaking. Plus, there's not really any, like, legal precedence set right now with anything AI. So, like, they kind of can just do whatever they want with it regarding copyright stuff. It's like, oh, well, this used a ton of copyrighted material to train itself. But it's not actually technically using any of that stuff for our, like, you know. Yeah, it doesn't trace over someone's. Yeah. So I think that there's like a gray area currently legally.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And until that's more delved into on a legal front, it's probably going to remain ethically gray. Also, one of the tricky things is it's kind of like nuclear stuff where it's like you can outlaw it or you can put restrictions, but then it only. applies to one area in the rest of the world. The law abiding people. Yeah. And also the, you know, you can put copyright laws on something for AI, but then if that's just in America, then, you know, someone in China doesn't have to abide by that. Or someone in Hawaii, which isn't part of America, doesn't have to abide by that.
Starting point is 00:17:23 That's why it's slippery. What would you like, like in the, not like the werewolves? I know, I don't, I want to get out of, but like, you scare me for a second. Not liking, but like, what would you like and find this a like to? I don't want to sound dramatic, but I think, I think nuclear weapons. But sounds dramatic. In terms of like technology. Yeah, it's, it's something that is like, you can't really go back on once it's, like, reached a certain point.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And it's something that is incredibly dangerous if used in a dangerous way. So, like, the light bulb. Yes. You could break that sucker and. Yeah, I keep telling you, dude, you can't keep doing this whole candlelight thing, because that is a lot more. dangerous than the light bulbs. I know you're scared that they could pop. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Someone could break into my home. I know. Break into my gated estate. Take out a light bulb. While I'm sleeping, just fucking gut me. I'll be honest though, dude, with like regular light bulbs, they're not, the glass is not strong enough where you could really get static. It could cut you,
Starting point is 00:18:27 but I don't think it's going to like impale you like a fucking knife would. How about this? I'm sleeping. Someone breaks to my house. Holds it up over my house. snoring oh you know I choke on it actually I take that back I was gonna I was saying the candles around the house especially the way you set them up are dangerous because you know one could tip while you're sleeping you like them near all night but I also like to leave them near curtains because the shadows at night it does look cool yeah it's like a puppet waves and stuff yeah especially since I have the like fan blowing so the curtains are always like I did when I slept over
Starting point is 00:19:02 last time I did like that and it's like it sometimes it's like a game of chicken with the curtains getting close to the flame with when the wind blows? It's exciting. It's like, oh! Because the candle could blow out the wind, but also like the wind could put, I don't know. It's never, it hasn't happened. The candle out if it touched the flame, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:16 Well, that's what would happen. If the curtains were to catch fire, the wind would put it out. So, I do think, though, the, uh, you don't need all those kerosene cans that are like half full around the, around your place. I don't know why you have those. Just wait until 2029. Okay. Where'd you even get them?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Okay Well, we have some words from our sponsors And two words from Luke You can go first, Luke Matt and Ryan Funny brothers As they call themselves But are they too funny?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Let's find out Oh, my God, this love, how can it be? I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, what? That's what our youth group would do during that part. Yeah, during that part, we go, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, what, what? Yeah, exactly, yeah, I wish I'd worship with your youth group. I know, yours was fucking lame. Yeah, we just went to be filled with losers, like, okay, I'll just say the first name and not the last name
Starting point is 00:20:35 to docks them. And. She shouldn't have even been down there. She was an older member. I actually know what's weird. Technically she never graduated college. So, you know, you and I could go back to youth group. We're still youthful.
Starting point is 00:20:50 You know, youth group is based on just that youthfulness. You and I radiate youthfulness. Doesn't matter our age. You know, age is but a number, as Jesus said. So we could 100% go back to youth group. Go to any church. Go in the basement. area for you that's where my church had youth group so yeah ours would we had like two areas
Starting point is 00:21:10 but there was like the the basement was where the contemporary no wait the is which is the one with the guitars and the drums the new age service or whatever they'd call it contemporary i think contemporary service i know and then there's traditional service right traditional and contemporary but contemporary sounds like it doesn't sound like that's the right word it's just because i don't know words and I'm basing it off of what it sounds like but a contemporary dude now that's actually thrown me off because I I know exactly what you're thinking of and it is contemporary or new age new age service yeah new life service new life service I like that I'm another
Starting point is 00:21:53 one's old life service old head service get a bunch of fucking 40 year olds I could have been in a band dude got one on the bass got one on the drums give him a fucking slap bass they go crazy you get I mean you got like one younger dude up there who's maybe uh maybe he's on one of those
Starting point is 00:22:13 you know that you remember those like it's not a drum but it's like a thing you sit on and you go and you turn the wheels like this and the wheels go boom boom boom dude finding out your church had these like Dr. Seuss contraptions to play
Starting point is 00:22:28 the praise songs Dude you got the one where the marbles fly through the air I wish that's how like fucking church was Like when you go to it It's like dude you gotta come to my church It's like this marvelous celebration where it's like Starts off it's like some kind of
Starting point is 00:22:46 Rookety ass like house or something And then you open the doors And it's this beautiful gala You're like what the You got like guys on the ground And it's like firing marbles through the air that are landing like perfectly on different chimes and your balls with handles and just spinning around and bouncing around welcome to church son yeah but you never seen anything like this before have you also need they hear knock on the door everyone all the wood like boring like the hymnals and stuff everyone puts it out it's like the cops like so i heard a disturbance over here no no we're just worshiping officer may we might be disturbing Satan with how much we're worshiping the lord
Starting point is 00:23:31 y'all have a good day now like and then he's looking out the window okay we're good I mean like the wall rotates and the big machines come back out dude have you ever seen that video with a guy playing I forgot what it's called it's it's the craziest instrument I've ever seen in my life it's like a it's like the size of a room ukulele I'm sorry there's four strings and it's huge too how do you fucking play more than one strand. It's like a guy and he's playing this instrument and it's literally like you and I should get one made built in this office because I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It's like he's playing it. It's like an organ, but it has all these like things he pulls and it's like making cartoon sound effects and shit. I got to find it, dude. This is insane. This sounds like that guy in spirited away that's running the bathhouse with all the tabs and tiles and he's spider-like. Yes, it's like that, but it's for music.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Wait. That would be sick. I haven't seen it. I don't know what you're talking about. To me, it is still but a fantasy. Oh, yeah. A fantasy? Tell me about this.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Holy... Never mind. I've seen this video before. Isn't this like an old scoring, like, Yeah, like, silent movies. Dude, couldn't you see Luke going fucking crazy on one of those? Like, he never let us know that he has that kind of talent. And then one day, like, we happen to see one at like a garage sale.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And he just sits down and just starts. Luke, throw up an AI generated image of you playing one of those suckers. Luke, we told you not to use AI in the podcast, man. And here you are putting it in the podcast. That was a test, Luke. And you failed. Because the second you started asking, he paused it and got right on it. And now he's facing, uh, so he had.
Starting point is 00:25:28 to take it out the AI image because now he's gotten to this part where I'm saying this and he feels ashamed but I think we should have one of those built in the office yes yeah exactly yeah 100% I love the I think I think that's also where a lot of cartoon sound effects come from is that machine you know who thought of it who went a genius who went boom that's what that's what like jumping up should be boom do you because they have to do that with old cartoons Like, I think that's pretty cool. Yeah. That they had to figure out a way to translate these actions through like sounds that just you're using.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That it doesn't make. Yeah, exactly. And using things now, especially in, because they have whole studios and stuff dedicated to it. With, oh, it's called something. Yeah, Foley. Like a Foley studio. Now, you know, you'll see shit where it's like in the Walking Dead when, uh, oh. A zombie's eating someone.
Starting point is 00:26:28 They're like tearing apart a cantaloupe or a waterman... Well, that's when Lori dies. Spoilers, man. And she farts and Carl's wearing a spinner hat and it makes that sad. She's silly. And it's so bad. His hat actually lifts up off his head,
Starting point is 00:26:51 spins around and falls back down. It was through that fart that his beautiful baby sister was born, though, because that's what gave... That is actually what happens during a lot of childbirth. It's very natural. So you guys might be... Pooping stuff as well, I've heard. Yeah, you guys might be sitting there palm clapping going...
Starting point is 00:27:05 Ha, ha, farts are funny. No, that's actually just the beauty of childbirth. Farts are real life, and I don't think we should be embarrassed to talk about it. That's why we try to desensitize our audience and ourselves to it every day. And people can call us crass. They can say, wow, you guys are too old to be doing this. We're five years old. And I say, no, you're five years old for trying to pretend like it basically.
Starting point is 00:27:26 basic bodily function is something we should be ashamed of, you fucking moron. Exactly. Just Marxists. Yeah. Do you think the guy that came up with that, like, fantastical machine? That had to have come to him in like a dream or something, right? Like, he's asleep and he's like... Dude, I'm going to tell you right now,
Starting point is 00:27:43 I bet you the original design diagrams, it had fucking wings. Like, he'd fly around town with it. That's what he wanted to do. But unfortunately, he had to ground it. See, here's the thing. Imagine that thing flying through the air with kind of like Da Vinci-esque kind of wooden wings. Oh, dude, yeah, like the type of wings where it's like you have like one other guy or maybe even the guy playing it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 He's like kicking pedal and there's like a big rotating thing, but it's like a spiral that like lifts it up into the air. They're like creating a draft with. Would you need a second person to fly it because the guy's focusing on the music? Well, that's why I had to keep it grounded because there was an unfortunate accident on the first flight, first class. slide, sorry. First fall, I guess. Okay. I mean, they shouldn't have pushed it off a cliff as the first test.
Starting point is 00:28:33 You know, they should have tried to get it off the ground, not... Our knowledge of aerodynamics were not as top-notch as they were back then. It's just a shame that the Wright brothers had to go down that path. And that's how they passed. Can you believe that, like, that was such a monumentous moment in history. It was just some dudes threw some popsicle sticks together and then like went 10 feet off the ground for five seconds and probably got so much pussy for the rest of their lives. No, think about the guy that rubbed two popsicle sticks together and fire was born. The original.
Starting point is 00:29:07 The, I remember in school when they called, when they were introducing the word technology, fire was technology. Do you remember that? Holy shit. When they taught you that fire was technology? You know, we don't think about it like that these days. Yeah, because it doesn't have a freaking screen. And we've, we've, uh, our media has run amok with, with dragon hysteria. And it's, it's made, it's, it's made the common fault quite scared of fire, I will say.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, that's bullshit. I mean, because fire equals bad and dragon evil. You know, people use fire as like this blanket term, you know, when there's like so much more nuance to it. And it's like, I don't know. I think there's more of a nuanced discussion there to be had like fire doesn't, fire equals, is bad to most people, so. But fire should equal good because it can be bad. There's examples
Starting point is 00:29:59 where it's definitely used for things it shouldn't be used for. Like insurance fraud. Well, it depends on honestly, can you blame the business? Can you blame the business owner? It's a good. It's a good thing. Yeah. So, fuck insurance
Starting point is 00:30:13 companies. Fuck insurance companies. But, but it's not safe to set a fire to a building because that building is typically near other buildings and even still if not near, near some sort of wildlife. I'm sure. And just imagine this. Imagine you're like, I'm going to burn down my building for an insurance check spreads to the next building and the next building is where the only surviving one of those fantastical music machines is, burns it to the ground. And they lost the blueprint
Starting point is 00:30:37 so they can't rebuild it ever. But right before, the reason that they know that one of those things built in the building, the fantastical music machine burnt in the building, is because they look at it and the perfect outline of it but in gray ash is standing up and then it all falls down collectively. Except you... Oh no! The fantastical music machine!
Starting point is 00:31:03 And it makes that perfect fucking sound, like the piano keys falling. Dude... I thought you were gonna say like as the building's going up in flames, you can just hear like
Starting point is 00:31:13 ta-d-dun-ta- it's like blowing out steam as it's catching a blaze. I don't want to think about that. That's not even funny. That's just that's sad. That's the loss of one of the eight wonders of the world. Nine.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And. Stop. You know. That was a well-delivered stop, dude. Because it's real. You know, there will come a point. You know what's sad to think about. There will be a point.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Where we die? Well, actually, yeah, but that's kind of where I was going. Sometimes I just get struck with such intense fear. I try not to think about that. that there is a moment where I will just go there is going to be a moment sometime in history
Starting point is 00:32:00 maybe while we're probably not while we're alive hopefully where one of those fantastical machines will be played for the last time ever in history and then that's it is someone still playing it
Starting point is 00:32:14 to this day doing concerts and stuff I don't think so so that could have already that could have already happened the last day No, no, no. Someone's going to sit down with it at least like
Starting point is 00:32:25 around the world at least once a year some old white dudes got to sit down and be like I used to play this back in the day and then start pulling on the cables and he's going to get a son or daughter or whoever
Starting point is 00:32:37 and they're going to have to go I just want to do my own thing it's a family thing for sure and then they're going to have to reconnect with it when the father dies because he wants it played at his funeral yeah that's a good movie
Starting point is 00:32:51 That's a great It's like They have to play this beautiful Funeral Ballet on Netflix, UK Just saying Y'all need some good shit Netflix UK Y'all Ben needed some good shit
Starting point is 00:33:07 Okay I would actually genuinely If I pass prematurely Before the ripe old age of 50 I would love for you to Find a way And I want the fans
Starting point is 00:33:21 to hold you to this. So while you're grieving, I want them to be tweeting at you and knocking on your door to make sure Matthew wants one of those fantastical machines played at his funeral. You can make it happen, right?
Starting point is 00:33:35 I could try. Like, imagine how my fucking mom would feel. As your coffins being lowered. You're going to be burned to ash, I'm guessing. Yeah, but people still do coffins a lot as like a symbolic thing. It's a waste of land. I know it is.
Starting point is 00:33:49 But imagine my mom's not allowed to know about this plot so my mom is standing there just sobbing as the coffins going down and then just you just hear turns around you have to play it
Starting point is 00:34:05 I think it would turn the whole event around it would I think people would forget all about why they were sad they would be so dude if I saw what were we sad about it would 100% distract me I'm honestly though if one of those started playing in a funeral
Starting point is 00:34:19 I would be so taken aback that I would probably for a moment forget about the tragedy of death which is scary very scary I do I try not to think about it too much and I try not to like most of the time
Starting point is 00:34:38 well I say this it's like it doesn't scare me in the sense of like well I'm going to die one day but everyone everything does and there's nothing I can do about it and that's not happening right now this very second so i guess i can't worry about it i think it's that fear of the lack of experience you know like known like i i think there's like i don't know
Starting point is 00:35:03 there's just like you know i wake up every day regardless of if it's a fulfilling day you know it's still a day that like time passes and i'm like i i react to things and i observe things i think that's the part just like oh i see what you're saying just experiencing being alive not necessarily not necessarily in the way of like i'm gonna go surfing and skydive i just mean legit like in the most plain processing information yeah exactly and that's like not being able to do that or like thinking of like that not happening is weird you can't yes it's like there was so much time before before but it's like we can't we can't conceive i don't know we can't conceive shit like that just because because it's hard
Starting point is 00:35:49 well we can it's just hard to you can't really grasp like you can I guess you can you can grasp the concept of not existing but you can't fully I don't think anyone I don't think our brains are advanced enough to actually like fully
Starting point is 00:36:04 understand that but our brain protects us apparently and makes us feel all nice before we die releases DMT goes choh Rogan said that and you're like I'm dying it's like here is a terrifying hallucinogenic trip.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Dude, that old man that had the heart attack on the, on Space Mountain, and they sent him through like three times by accident. Oh my God, dude. Do you think his brain was releasing DMT during that experience? Jesus Christ, that's horrifying. Yeah, that would be a horrible way to go. Rest in peace. You don't even know his name.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Harold. Harold Blumpkins Yeah Is that his name? Yeah Right hand to God The Father Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth
Starting point is 00:36:56 I don't want to get into religion On the podcast There's two things we don't talk about Politics and Religion I'm not getting into that Well I'll tell you what we're going to get into Some Adderids. I think we do it better than the original
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah That's one of those McGee Heavy rotation classics It's a good song You know since I've known you There's been like I don't know how many Maybe like a dozen songs or so
Starting point is 00:38:01 That there it is Who Let the dogs out Pretty much anything Jojo Siwa Baja men Boys Is it a Baja boys or Baha men now? I don't know. I think they're the Baja men. Well, they started out as the Baja boys and then once the last member, to hit 18, hit
Starting point is 00:38:22 18, they went through and changed to the Baja men. But now, in retrospect, the surviving member is I'm the Baja boy because he's bringing it back. Yeah, and it's, you know, people like, why didn't you go with Baja Man? You know, I think it's like one of those cases of lost youth. Yeah. Yeah. I just like, I don't want to feel washed up. You know, you and I feel that way. So it's like i get it um and by the way i do want to talk more about the changing super mega to super boys um idea more i know you're a little iffy but or boy me it's not my it's not my favorite idea i'll be honest i'm not shooting it down immediately i'm just i mean we could talk about it i just it's not something i'm really i'm just warning you i'm going to be i'm going
Starting point is 00:39:04 to be adverse to the idea when we're talking about it if well if you go and if you go into it with that mindset, duh. It's just my visceral reaction. Open your mind to boys, man. Anyway, but there's this, this, I need to make this playlist on Spotify or something of the Ryan McGee classics. You've got,
Starting point is 00:39:28 Uchild, you've got... Can we get much higher? It's like the same songs that you always, like, every day you sing one of them out loud. So high. why can I not think of any of them happen in the moment they do who let the dogs out
Starting point is 00:39:47 I don't think is one of them whoop there it is I don't think that is either who sings that T-pane it's not T-pane it's uh Russell Simmons
Starting point is 00:40:01 I could see his ass dancing to it though wait dude I've done Dude, there's a large part of our people who's that? I bet you. That makes me sad. Yeah, it is sad.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Here's Russell Simmons, a gif. Yeah, make sure it's a gif, Luke, because people need to see the life that exuded from this man. And his leotard, onesie, whatever he'd wear. A little fun, though. I don't think he knew Shaycarl. dude they could like she carl could have collabed with leonardo decaprio and be like it's leotard you know he could have yeah he could have or i've pitched this to shay carl he hasn't responded to my emails or calls but i'm saying i you know i think you should launch a cryptocurrency
Starting point is 00:40:58 tard coin you might have to i wouldn't give that away just to the general public because there's a lot of people who would jump on that coin. Actually, yeah. So. If he does that, just know it was my idea. Hey, someone stole Shay Carl's Bored Ape, and he never got it back. So. Didn't he like have a meltdown over that? Yeah, he was, uh...
Starting point is 00:41:24 I guess not a meltdown. Maybe that's me being a little facetious. I don't know. I can't remember. Jealous, maybe? Yeah, probably jealous. But he was, he was, he was a bit miffed. The only time I've ever interacted with Shea Carl was I tweeted. I stole Shay Carl's board ape
Starting point is 00:41:43 Didn't you respond? Yeah I said at FBI I was confessing And then Shay Carl responded and said Give it back And you didn't give it back No The FBI contact you
Starting point is 00:41:52 No What would you do if you actually found out Like I was the one that stole Shea Carl's board ape And I'd kept it secret this whole time I'm like Ryan Dude It's worth $200
Starting point is 00:42:07 dollars now it's it's weird because it's such like a nothing thing to me i'd be like what would you be impressed with my my tech know-how that i stole an nfti because i mean that's not easy well screen capping it no i stole the blockchain data the the source code i stole the source code i hacked into it and i transmuted the the information to my devices she carl he woke up my morning goes oh let me check on my board ape nothing on his phone it's just empty it says empty no files found he goes it has a um a tab that says board ape count zero no no well actually he saw it one and then it went zero when it refreshed and he updated the app he goes he opens his eyes yawns it says one he goes
Starting point is 00:42:59 another day and tardad dice and then he goes to zero and he goes oh i've seen if there was a better upon there. Shay Sharedice? No. No, I comments, if you guys could think of one, let me know, please.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I mean, it won't help the episode live. Well, you should. It could. You could manifest change. Be the change you want to see in the world. Someone out there has his board apes to write this very moment. What do they do with it?
Starting point is 00:43:35 well NFTs are they even like no there were nothing now like it was just a in the moment thing yeah where you were just hoping to get some dumb company to fork over a bunch of money to you to make a I really don't well it people acted like it was this like uh crazy innovative thing and at the end of the day same as cryptocurrency there's no actual like real world you as much as people want there to be. It's just an asset for storing value that you can trade and make money off of because that's what people care about. So NFTs were like, yep, this picture of this really well-drawn cartoon is worth 300 grand. And someone's like, I need to buy that if it's worth that much. I'm going to buy it for 300 grand because next month it could be worth 500 grand.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I mean, it's worth like 200 bucks. But no one cares about it. It's not from anyone that anyone cares about. I remember when celebrities were showing off their board apes. Fallon. Didn't Paltrow have a board ape too? Gwyneth? Yeah, she did. And Fallon. Fallon was showing his board ape off. Hey, guys, you got to check it out.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh, my God. It's this thing, it's called, you know, it's this thing going around. A lot of celebrities, you might have seen it on, you know, social media or something. It's, it's called a board ape. And why don't we, uh, why don't we, let me take this? Let me, let me turn that around so I can show you guys. Oh my God. Yeah, so this is a, this is me as a board ape.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oops. Then you hear just like a That's a great Fallon impression I thought so I've been working on it In the mirror In the car in my rear I can tell
Starting point is 00:45:15 It's always a mirror There always has to be a mirror I have to be looking dead into my eyes When I'm doing this My Jimmy Fallon impression I take it so seriously And you better not be fucking with me right now I'm not fucking with you
Starting point is 00:45:25 You're gonna be upset about this though And this is the only political thing I'll say this whole podcast Yesterday the president did refer to Jimmy Fallon as I think it was the massively untalented Jimmy Fallon or maybe it was unfunny
Starting point is 00:45:37 he tussle he tussled Donald Trump's hair true that that's why I was like why what's with the fucking hostility towards my boy Jimmy but it was all in good fun that's the that I love that where it's like we were at that point where everyone knew like it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:45:55 everyone's surprised you know they just thought he was this dorky businessman and then he really pulled the wool over our eyes it's like that that wasn't the case It's like Donald Trump was very like Everybody knew who he was at that point And Jimmy Fallon liked him And Jimmy Fallon had him on the show in the same vein
Starting point is 00:46:13 That I think that like The fucking Nelk boys and What's his? The bro-y podcast when they had like J.D. Vance and Aidan Ross brothers Yeah them when they had like J.D. Vance and Donald Trump on the podcast It was like it just feels like very just similar Yeah In the same vein
Starting point is 00:46:33 It feels icky, I think, is a good word to describe it. Yucky, maybe. Okay. It's kind of like, ugh, uh, you know, it just feels gross. These are wonderful adjectives. I've been trying, I've been trying to use more words. These are just, it is just insane how, oh, gross. It is not just gross, but it's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Now, Mr. Watson, is it true that you would classify the current administrative? frustration as yucky. I know your honor. Now, now, I got a transcript from episode 75 of your podcast. The super mega show, not to be confused with the ever so superior super mega cast. He's a clip. He plays a clip of everyone laughs. Now, now, now, now, now.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And he plays a clip of Super Mega Show and the whole, everyone's silent. Except you actually hear one guy in the back. Ugh. I look like you and I sit next to each other and like just give each other that look board shorts okay and I say why the fuck did you wear those decor? You're wearing them too jackass it would be funny if one of us was wearing but the fact that it looks like we coordinated wearing we're wearing ready for this board shorts
Starting point is 00:47:59 polos with no shirt underneath a seashell necklace and like cucka shells and a visor upside down do you know how fucking
Starting point is 00:48:16 like if you and I were in court having to show up in front of a judge would they hold us in contempt it depends on the judge honestly add some frosted tips that might save us Do you know how fucking furious
Starting point is 00:48:32 our lawyer would be Seeing us Like he's like Your Honor They'll be here any moment They've just texted me They're walking through the door You hear the doors open
Starting point is 00:48:40 Turns around Just Sorry we're late We keep like Uh Sorry Sorry your honor Like in the middle
Starting point is 00:48:51 Of like someone Talking in the courtroom Not used to being up this early Is there a lunch break? You're just like, Mr. McGee, is there a lunch break? We will have a recess.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Recess? No, I don't I don't want to play on a playground. I'm much too old for that. I want to break where I can eat. Get some new nutritious nutrients. I think he's being facetious, trying to imply we're being children that we need recess. Yeah. Not sitting well with me, Judge.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Could you, can you be held in contempt for showing up dressed a certain way? Yeah. That's just up to the judge, right? Like, there's not really any rulebook for what counts as contempt. Can the judge just, like, well, like, obviously he can't just decide if he ran, like, there has to be something that's. I guess, really, I know, I'm no lawman, but it's anything that would obstruct the, the, the case or just the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. proceedings from moving forward. Anything that puts a pause in it that isn't like something to do with the case, you know, if it feels like it's wasting people's time or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:50:08 I feel like that you can be held in contempt for that. You can probably be held in contempt for you know, interrupting the judge and not being respectful towards the judge or towards the courtroom in general. Yeah, because overall it's what, it's just showing like a blatant disregard for the respect and rules of the court. Now, Do you think in a high-profile case, Matthew, that, like, let's say this was during, like, OJ's trial, one of the lawyers, at least once could have gotten away with flashing the judge at one point throughout the entirety of the trial, just once, just only once, could get away with. And what I mean by get away with is do this one thing and then still remain in the courtroom, in the proceedings, like, through the end. Could they flash the judge a neater, neater, neater? do you think like realistically if he just tried to snuck in a
Starting point is 00:51:00 like what was that testimony like a witness is crying like excuse me hold on one moment please hold on mr dershowitz did you just flash a niner at me you must be seeing things your honor Might have to call a mistrial if you're imagining this strategy.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah, this might be one hung jury. That's not what that means. This might be one mistrial. Looks over. And by the way, Mr. Dershowitz, do not show up in board shorts again tomorrow. Although the plaid clothed looping belt is fantastic. seen someone do a belt with board shorts but
Starting point is 00:51:58 you know I was going to hold you in contempt Mr. Dershowitz but honestly that belt ties the whole thing together okay yes it is possible to be held in contempt of court for your clothing although it's not a common occurrence
Starting point is 00:52:18 judges have the power to maintain order and form in their courtroom what if I showed up the way God made me Are you going against? And I use that as the defense. It's the way God made me. And it's expression of religious freedom. God wouldn't want me wearing a suit to what?
Starting point is 00:52:35 Make myself look pretty to you? What am I? What am I going to fuck you, Judge? Like, what? Whoa. Now that you mention it. Talk about a hung jury. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Or dishonestly. Honestly. Or dishonestly. Reminds me of Trump's deposition. When they ask him if it's, if it's, would they bring up the grabbing women by the pussy thing? He goes, well, historically, that's been true for the last million or so years. And then he goes, fortunately. Or he goes, unfortunately or unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Just got to leave all doors open. Yeah, exactly. He can't plant his flag and solidify his opinion or claim because how would he be able to move the goalpost so easily or morph his opinion or phrasing to whichever one would fit the situation best instead of what he thinks is most correct or anything of the sort. Did our attorney, Mr. McGee, just reveal that entire information to the judge? Remember that?
Starting point is 00:53:53 I remember that shit. You want to play? No, we already played. It hurts. It hurts. Yeah. Or is that just my pussy fingers? Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I'm just kidding, dude. I'm kidding. That was a joke. Word of the week. Sargon of Akad. The 12th century ruler? The great Sargonne of Akad. Sorry, sorry. You piss me off, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've just learned that phrase. Did I use it correctly?
Starting point is 00:54:39 No, you didn't. My bad. I'm still new to this American English thing. I'm so used to, you know, British English. Oy, you know? I'm chuffed to bits just looking at you. You're a right tosser, you know that? You know what that means? Of course.
Starting point is 00:55:02 That's why I said it. Wow. Dude, who left the beans off of your toast this morning? It's their version of the who woke who didn't have milk for their cereal or whatever. No, it's a homophobic insult what you just said. So, great job. I thought that was the bagel thing. that too they're very creative with i don't want no cream cheese on that bagel yeah so i didn't know
Starting point is 00:55:30 that was a saying and i was over in the uk and you know they were like i was ordering an everything bagel and i and i like the flavor of an everything bagel without the cream you know i just i just i think it has enough there to be fine without any sort of extra butter or whatnot so i just asked them the toasted said yeah i'll have no cream cheese on that bagel and the whole coffee shop went silent and i was like what got my ass beat And they spit on me, but I feel like the ass beating is probably the more paramount of the two. But I do want to note that they did spit on me as well, because it's gross. And I think, like, people who spit on people, like, who does that?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Anyways. You ready for the word of the week? Nope. All right. But they are. Oh, okay. Guys, the word of the week, you guys are going to like this one. I'm waiting.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Actually, waiting. I'm sure most people know this one by now, but I've always found a little bit of enjoyment in this word. Dongle. Now. Isn't that like a little... No, no. Say your definition first. Isn't like a computer dongle?
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. It's a small electronic device to connect a computer, sometimes used as an adapter for other devices or for added features. You need a dongle to charge your smartphone to your laptop. Otherwise, the cables aren't compatible. So that's a fun one, guys. Maybe you didn't know dongle, but like a Bluetooth dongle for your computer mouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:59 So, you know, we don't always have to go crazy with these words, but that one's pretty fun. Here's, uh, here's Luke giving, um, never mind. I just, I just felt like if I give him more attention, he's just, it's just going to go to his head. we give him if we give him the stage so often there's not going to be any any stage for matt and ryan you know left and we already said he could share give his two cents his two words earlier in the podcast and i feel like you know that should that's enough of a word count right there comparatively because that's already so much i think of all the words said in a podcast right think of like two words how much money that costs and think about like
Starting point is 00:57:42 he's going to want this to be a recurring bit on every episode Luke's two cents where he gets to say two words so I don't I don't know if opening Pandora's or Luke's box was such a good idea I like the Luke's box did you think of that I did just now could be another Netflix UK idea yeah if Luke doesn't take it and run with it first if you give a mouse a cookie type beat because I don't know who owns the trademarks for Pandora's box but that might be the loophole you know it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:58:12 how Nosephirat, what they did with Nosephiratsu with Dracula. Pretty sure Lockheed Martin owns the, because they found the original Pandora's Box in South America. And it has, you know, insane powers. So, of course, Lockheed Martin. Dude, I wish we found shit like that. We have, dude. It's just Lockheed Martin owns it.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I love that, you know, dinosaur bones and stuff that that shit's cool. But why aren't we finding shit like Pandora's Box, Zeus's Lightning Bolt? Like, where the fuck is all this shit? I'm literally sane, dude. You don't know that that stuff doesn't exist because if it did exist, those weapons companies like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin would 100% get that shit immediately and we would know nothing about it. Where's us like excavating, going into a tomb, passing a bunch of like stone men,
Starting point is 00:59:01 then getting to the end and seeing this like a mirror fall in it, like an old mirror falling and broken and seeing Medusa in stone going. Obviously someone used that mirror and they. didn't turn to stone like the rest of them on the way in. True, true. I would love to see excavations where we uncover something else other than fucking dinosaur bones. It's really weird you bring this up because before we came in this evening, I was laying in bed and watching a video about dinosaur bones.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So, well, I did that on the toilet before a shower. All right. But the dinosaur bones are very interesting. But I'm serious. those weapons companies have technology that is beyond our wildest dreams those contractors
Starting point is 00:59:47 and they keep it locked up not you can make your eyeballs explode from miles away yes 100%. They could fucking push a button in both of our eyeballs would go which would be fucking awesome
Starting point is 00:59:58 to get captioned on live stream I wouldn't it would just prove our hypothesis I don't think it would okay because no one would answer like that could happen and no one would answer for it
Starting point is 01:00:09 because the power we would know. And that's, knowing that you're right is, that matters not. That matters not when we have no eyes. That's a good point. That's a good point. Anyway, if Lockheed Martin or Raytheon or Bigelow Aerospace, if you guys want to maybe bring us for like a tour of a facility to see some of the cool alien tech you guys have that you've reversed engineered. I swear to God we won't say anything.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Let's give a shout out to all their employees. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And the managers as well. The managers should be separate than from the employees. They're on the nicer looking one with the emojis. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So these are employees that work for defense contractors. And not just like, you know, the defense con, not the sector of defense contracting where they're making like tanks or whatever. I'm talking, this is like the reverse engineered UFO technology, the cool shit. Zeus's lightning bolt or Medusa's snake. So that one's crazy. I don't even have to get into that. Look it up when you get home.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But yeah, here's the employees and the managers. We would love to just take a tour of a facility, maybe see some of that tech. Swear to God, we will keep our lips sealed. Maybe do one of those classic photos. We'll bring the saddle. We can put a saddle on like a missile of some kind and have a cowboy. Oh, yeah, like from Dr. Strange, love. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:36 Who's that? Dr. Strange. Isn't it? The Kubrick thing. Kubrick? I hardly even know her. Thanks, everyone.

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