Sword and Scale - Episode 134

Episode Date: March 23, 2019

Sticks and stones will break my bones... a child's nursery rhyme which contains a universal truth that is all but lost in today's day and age of safe spaces and mass censorship of "hurtful wo...rds." Respect is not only demanded in this brave new world, but some of us feel entitled to it. Chris Dorner never received the respect he felt he was entitled to. When he felt his honor was being stripped away by the very institution he swore allegiance to he had only one logical choice… go to war with the LAPD. How he chose to act then, said more about his character than any words ever could.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sword and Scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to Sword and Scale Season 6 episode 134, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real. Well, hello there! So glad you're here! First off, I'd like to take a quick minute to explain that you may hear two versions of this episode. One hosted by myself here on Patreon, and one on the free ad-supported feed hosted
Starting point is 00:01:02 by a familiar voice for those of you who've been around for a while. Trisha Griffith, proprietor of Webslooths and close friend, is the new voice of Sword and Scale. You see, my voice is too triggering for some individuals out there who don't like joke memes. So, the only place they'll be able to hear me for now is right here. I and the rest of the staff will continue putting out shows regularly behind the paywall on Patreon until we have a new platform built. But I have personally been booted from the public discourse, and it's probably just a matter of time before they conspired to shut me down altogether for saying ugly words.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So you, the supporters who can hear this, you are the ones keeping me on the air. I want you to know how much I do appreciate that. In fact, not just me, our entire staff, which has all been able to keep working throughout all of this, is immensely thankful for all of your continued support. And now, the show must go on. [♪ Music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, There are sayings that are well-known and universal. That's for a reason. As we traverse continents and study different languages and cultures, we find that a lot of the same universal truths apply.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Some of those truths are as basic as a child's nursery rhyme. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me." Other well-known sayings get to the real heart of the matter, such as, treat people the way you want to be treated, and respect is earned, not given. These universal truths extend beyond geographic lines, beyond cultures and time. The Chinese philosopher Confucius said, Without feelings of respect, what is there to distinguish men from beasts? We demand respect.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Some of us feel entitled to it. But how we act when we feel disrespected or offended says more about our character than anyone's words ever could. Words have power, but only the power we give them. And it's really up to the individual and not the collective to decide which words have power over you. In this brave new or well-earned world of outrage culture, we're taught that we are not only entitled to respect, but to the right to correct the words of others. We're
Starting point is 00:03:54 taught that bullies are evil, and victims are heroes, and that if someone offends you, any and all retaliation, no matter how how disproportionate is right and just. We're taught that we are no longer responsible for our own actions once we've been slided or marginalized. And in this strange new landscape, it's increasingly harder to tell the bullies and victims apart. An entire generation of dissolutioned, perpetual victims prone to anger, hate, and revenge take to social media and droves to unleash their social justice on target after target. Revenge, after all, does feel quite good. And revenge is what was brewing in the thick San Bernardino National Forests that blanket the mountains of East Los Angeles. The snow stopped falling on Big Bear Mountain after several days of cold, dreary conditions. Jim and Karen Reynolds were happily reopening their 13-unit resort, Mountain Vista, tucked
Starting point is 00:05:22 in between Big Bear Lake and Sugarloaf Mountain. The other resort owners were happy too. The nearly 17 inches of snow since Friday meant fresh powder, and that meant skiers. Just a hundred mile drive east of LA lies the San Bernardino Mountains. They're covered in snow most of the year, and their economy economies fueled by tourists from near and far. We had some long-term tenants in here. They were here for about three years and they just moved out the end of January 29th. So it was kind of a mess. So we were doing coming in to clean the place up and get it some repairs done. It was Tuesday, February 12th, 2013. The Reynolds had started the
Starting point is 00:06:03 refreshment of Unit 203 the previous Wednesday, but the mountain had been on lockdown since the 7th. There was a killer on the loose, and his last known whereabouts weren't far from here. His burnt out truck had been discovered on a forest service road nearby, with tracks leading away. But we left it on lock, I believe on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I'm not positive. I was the first one out, so I don't know. When we saw the truck burning over there and heard about it and saw it close, it was. My first thought was this unit was unlocked. So I came over and checked it, but it was locked when I checked it. That did surprise me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I thought it should have been unlocked. And I didn't have a key with me or I'd unlocked it and gone and I checked it. To see my next project at that point, let's come up and finish fixing the curtain, Roger. I started the Wednesday before. When we walked in the door, I did a quick look around downstairs, so nothing really unusual. I turned and looked at the curtains, and that's what I came to fix, and she kept walking towards the back bedroom to get the mattress pad. By this time, there were hundreds of armed law enforcement officers still scouring the
Starting point is 00:07:07 quaint Lake Town and the rugged mountainside surrounding it. And they had swept resort community after resort community, looking for signs of forced entry, knocking on every door. While the search continued, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon had reopened the resorts, convinced the fugitive was no longer in the area. But he was wrong. And she got about near the front of the fireplace there, and he jumped out of the back of the bedroom here, and all her stay calm.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And Karen screamed, Karen started to run. The first time I saw him was he was running after Karen, and he went by me and brushed me as he went by. As I was running down the stairs, it just felt like there were multiple things crossing my mind, like leaving him in here with my husband. And why am I going outside and giving him a reason to have to kill me?
Starting point is 00:08:05 It had the door open and that I'm not going to go out there. And at the same time as when he got hold of my arm right here. And that's when he started saying, like, just calm down. I'm not going to kill you. Let's go back upstairs. The Reynolds had stumbled upon a foreboding figure. He moved with quick tranquility and took control of the situation before Jim or Karen knew what was happening. The subject of one of the largest manhunts in LAPD history was living in their rental
Starting point is 00:08:41 property, and they were trapped now with him. They knew he was dangerous, very dangerous. It was the only thing playing on the news. The police were looking for a black male six feet tall, 270 pounds, with military and police training, armed and dangerous. Jim thought for a moment of trying to tackle their capture to give Karen a chance to escape, but on second thought he decided it would not be a good idea against a man that large. There's only one exit out, one interest, one exit, so I was trapped at that point and I pulled my cell phone out, started dial 911, but before I could even get it turned on, I heard him say,
Starting point is 00:09:26 come on back upstairs, so I turned at that point, stuck myself on under the seat cushion of the couch, and then just as I stand up, Karen walked into the room, and she came in first, so he couldn't see me standing up, and then he came in, told us both sit on the couch, and he's talking the whole time saying calm down I'm not going to hurt you I didn't hurt that man it's Andy A. U. I'm not going to hurt you and he told us to stand up put our hands on our head turn around and face the
Starting point is 00:09:55 wall then he had his kneel on the couch cross our ankles and then lean forward into our heads touching the wall and once we were both that, then he had me put my hand behind my back and he used those plastic ties to tie my hands. And then he did the same thing to Karen. The fugitive reassured the Reynolds over and over again, that he would not kill them. Karen remembers him saying, I know you know who I am.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I know you've been seeing the news. Before calling them them hard workers and good people. He claimed he could see Jim working on the snow every day, implying he admired their work ethic. I don't have a problem with you. He told them. I just want to clear my name. He paced back and forth, gathering his things and double checking the Reynolds restraints. He didn't want them to escape before he could figure out where he was heading next. He never smiled.
Starting point is 00:10:48 He was very calm the whole time. He came back and tugged on mine some more and did Terrence again, tugged on tighter. Then he made us, he said, stand up and walked towards the back bedroom, back here. He asked at that point where my cell phone was. I told him I was at home on the charger and he just said, okay, and then he searched my other pocket and found said, what's in your tote pocket here? I had a jacket on.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yes, what's in your pocket? I just had some candy and he said, you diabetic. I said, yes, you should obviously concern about that. Then he walked out of the room and came back in with washcloths and he put the washcloths in our mouth. And then he put a pillow case over our heads and tucked that in somehow or something. Then he dealt down, I thought it was right beside me, but it was probably between us and kind of in a calm kind of little almost whispers. And they're you're going to remain calm and not try to get away or any give me time to get away. And we said yes. And he said okay. And then he got up and he left.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Lying next to each other on the floor of their rental condo, Jim and Karen were bound and zip ties, hooded with pillowcases, secured with an electrical cord and gagged with washcloths. Karen thought this was the end. Karen started struggling right away to try and get free, but I told her, no, stay calm. Be quiet for a few minutes so let's see if we can hear him go out the front door. So I'm still listening for the front door to close. I never heard it.
Starting point is 00:12:20 He must have done it very quietly, but I could hear some noise back in the background. So I waited a few more seconds trying to figure that out. I was going to find a figure out it was the television. He turned the television on and he went out the door. They struggled against their restraints, only able to squirm about on the floor, trying to find a position where Jim could remove Karen's hood. After that, it didn't take long for Karen to remove Jim's hood
Starting point is 00:12:42 and her own gag. Jim couldn't really stand up, but Karen was able to get to her knees and then onto her feet. I would yell in at her that I'd put my phone under the... ...my cell phone was under the couch of the cushion, get to that. I thought I could lay it on the coffee table and I looked over at the coffee table. I saw that her phone was laying there on the coffee table face up. So it had to get on speaker and it took us probably a couple minutes, it was a new phone, we just got these a few days
Starting point is 00:13:08 before and then took a couple tries, the at 9-1-1. Now we want to margin to where you're reporting. I got my phone. Where did he tell you up? Right before leaving, he told us off yet for a case to survive our heads. How long ago did he tie you up? It was like 15 minutes to 30 minutes. Okay, so this all happened today?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yes, we're still tied up. You're still tied up? Yes. Did he have any weapons on him? Yes. How many did he have? We have an automatic group of scientists. Was he on inside when you guys arrived?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yes. I'm pretty sure he's been here the whole time. Do you think he's been there the whole time? Yes. Because it's been empty. And we were ready to cross meet you on Sunday as always. You guys are just across from the command center? We are right to IOT Center.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Krista Ferdorner had been on the run for nine days before the rentals discovered their unscheduled guests squatting in Unit 203. Across the street, at another resort, an impromptu command center had been set up, spearheading the search for Dorner, all within view from the window of the rental in which he now stood. Presumably, he had been in that condo for days watching the police look for him. He was wanted in connection with three murders,
Starting point is 00:14:52 one of which was a police officer. The Reynolds recognized him immediately because by this point, Christopher Dorner was a household name and his face was everywhere. He was an X-L-A-LAPD cop and an ex-Navy reservist that had declared all-out war on his former brothers in blue. He was trained in the tactics of those who now sought him, and an expert in the use of handguns and rifles, considered a marksman by the Navy. He wanted to take out all of those that in his mind had wronged him, make them suffer like he did.
Starting point is 00:15:34 By this time, he had become somewhat of a folk hero. People tweeted their support calling him chocolate Rambo, relating him to the movie character John Rambo played by Sylvester Stallone, a Vietnam vet who, when met with intolerance in a small mountain town, unleashes all his fury on the local sheriff's department. Facebook tribute pages sprung up, rallying behind his mission against the LAPD. A mission he outlined in a lengthy Facebook post that had since become known as his manifesto. In Dorner's words, he wrote, I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders
Starting point is 00:16:19 and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of a man you knew, who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name." His rambling confession explained his motive for murder.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He wanted to clear his name of the stain of being fired by the LAPD. A transcript of that hearing quoted board member Sergeant Sheryl and Anderson as saying that doorkner lacks the integrity necessary to be a cop. The chairman of the board, Captain Philip C. Tingerede's, said quote, Dornor's credibility is damaged beyond repair. That last part Dornor agreed with, in a way, he was damaged beyond repair.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate Courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now led to deadly consequences. The LAPD's actions have cost me my law enforcement career. They cost me my naval career. I lost my position as a commanding officer
Starting point is 00:17:53 of a Naval Security Forces Reserve Unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. I've lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I've lost everything because the LAPD took my name and knew I was innocent. Captain Philip Tingerides, Justin Eisenberg, Martella, Randy Kwan, and Sergeant Anderson all knew I was innocent, but decided to terminate
Starting point is 00:18:26 me so they could continue Officer Teresa Evans' career. I know about the meeting between all of you where Evans' attorney Rico confessed that she kicked Christopher Getler, excessive force. Your day has come. The blue line will forever be severed, and a cultural change will be implanted. You have a woken, a sleeping giant. I have nothing to lose. My personal causality means nothing. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. You will now live the life of prey." As Dorner went on about all those who wronged him, one thing became clear. He tried to
Starting point is 00:19:14 live his life by a strict personal code of principles, standing up for what he considered truth and justice. But now he saw himself as a victim of injustice, stripping away his reputation and integrity. He blamed the LAPD. An organization he saw full of individuals bent on furthering their own agendas. The highest echelon being so corrupt that it now infected the entire institution. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to live and love. That they may eat different
Starting point is 00:20:00 foods and enjoy different music, have different dialects or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws, but we are the closest that will ever exist." Dornor preached inclusiveness. He wanted peace, but the realization that the world did not reciprocate his ideals left him with a sense of deception, a feeling that had been with him since youth. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from 1st grade to 7th grade. In junior high and in any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood school yard fights, or calling me nigger, or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian Elementary School in Norwalk, California.
Starting point is 00:21:07 A fellow student, Jim Armstrong, if I can recall, called me a nigger on the playground. My response was swift and nonlethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch and a kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word towards me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim, in response to him calling me a nigger. He stated, as good Christians, we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. questions, we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I'm not fucking Christian, and that old book made a fiction and limited non-fiction called The Bible.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Never once stated Jesus was called a nigger. How dare you swap me for standing up for my rights, for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being? That day I made a life decision that I will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately, I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Injustice seemed to become a focal point in young Dorner's mind. He saw it everywhere. It followed Dororner through his
Starting point is 00:22:25 youth and into high school too. Mr. Freed, assistant principal, Cypress high school. Remember when you lied to my mother and the police officer in your office about stating that you never stated to me in a private conversation that you know the theft suspect Miranda stole my watch? Let me refresh your memory. A physical education teacher's assistant, a student, stole the list of combination codes to people's lockers from the PE teacher. That student then opened many of those lockers
Starting point is 00:22:57 and stole students' personal property. My watch was taken in that multi theft, and I reported it to you. A week later, you discovered that the theft suspect was Paul Miranda, a student. You stated to me in private that you know for a fact he stole my property. When I attempted to retrieve my property from the suspect, campus security was called, and you lied and stated you never stated to me that you know he stole my watch. You sat there and lied to their faces right in front of me. You said it with such a deliberate,
Starting point is 00:23:34 stern face. I never forgot that, and was not surprised when thirteen years later I was lied on again in the BOR by Teresa Evans. Maybe you can confess to your family at the very least in the private of your own home. After that, contact my mother and apologize for lying to her in 1996. By the time he entered the police academyorners enduring victim mentality triggered him in an infallible sense, then he must act swiftly, and that he was right to do so. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard officer McGannia call an individual a nigger again.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magganya not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, I'll say it when I want. Officer Bordeus, a friend of his, also stated that he would say, nigger, when he wanted. At that point, I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around Burdeos and neck and squeezed. I stated to Burdeos, don't fucking say that. At that point, there was pushing and shoving, and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and officer Magania's skull. The situation would have been resolved effective immediately.
Starting point is 00:25:20 In each instance, he refused to stand idly by and let injustice occur, instead he took quick and decisive action. No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I ever was. As a young police officer, I found my calling in life, but as a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. Dornor had a long list of targets and a plan that he put into effect. The evening of February 3rd, Super Bowl Sunday, I wasn't on call for the police department. I received word of a double homicide in the city of Irvine and I responded.
Starting point is 00:26:16 We encountered two subjects, later identified as Keith Lawrence and Monica Cwan, who had been shot to death in a vehicle on the top floor of a parking structure in the city of Irvine. Keith and Monica were young and in love. Keith was 27 and working as a campus officer for the University of Southern California. And Monica was 28, a Cal State Fullerton women's basketball assistant coach. They'd gotten engaged. A proposal Keith had recorded from multiple camera angles. Yes, these are candles. Where's my candles?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Here's the rose petals. They're not here. Where are they? Don't worry about it. You. A home like that. Stand right here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Okay. Oh my. You stand right here. Okay. Okay. Oh my. The next side. Yeah, what is happening? What is going on? What do you think is happening? I'm just having a tattoo with something. I'm just gonna come back.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You are my winning love of you. You're my best friend, you're my girlfriend, and I've had you all this time. So it's about time to catch you in. I'm working here. You're working more than you're doing. So... What in the world?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Monica, Lisa Kwan. You know, open the box. What would you marry me? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Can I have your hand? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I'm going to take my other ring. You can take that off. We don't like that one. Okay. On his living room floor were Rose petals in the shape of a heart. Keith Nelt in the middle as he asked her hand in marriage. Just a few days before their deaths would be investigated by Irvine detective Victoria
Starting point is 00:28:13 Huertado. It was obvious that it was in the robbery because Monica Plan had a beautiful large diamond engagement ring that was very obvious on her finger at that time. The contents of her purse were also undisturbed in the vehicle. They were gunned down atop the parking garage in a resident district in Irvine, America's safest mid-size city. Across the Palm Line street apartment, high-rise is towered, far above the parking structure. Anyone could have witnessed the attack, but no one heard or saw a thing.
Starting point is 00:28:51 There were no powder burns encompassing the bullet holes through the glass from the gun being fired at close range. The garage recorded their entry time at 7.30 pm, but the couple wasn't noticed until 9.10 pm when a passerby saw a figure slumped over the steering wheel of a car. Detective Hortado questioned how 14 shots could go unheard and unnoticed. In those early morning hours that day, we really didn't have anything we were really focusing on. We looked into the family and the friends and the victims and we didn't have anything we were really focusing on. We looked into the family and the friends and the victims, and we didn't have anywhere to go at that point.
Starting point is 00:29:31 We were really looking for leads and looking for other avenues to pursue. Meanwhile, a hundred miles south of Irvine in National City, a seemingly unrelated discovery was found in a dumpster, down in All Alley in view of the National City Police Department. We had no idea about what was going on as far as the incident that occurred in Irvine. Just a radio call of some located police tactical type property in a dumpster just across the street from the police department. I responded over there since it was my area of responsibility or my beat. When I looked inside the dumpster, I saw that there was a LAPD uniform and had the name plate of Dornor on it. There was no badge. There was a couple of green military style ammo cans with ammunition in their 22. I believe there was some 9mm rounds. There was a notepad with the same name Dornor.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Another name on there with both, they look like serial numbers or I was assuming maybe badge numbers. Our dispatch contacted LAPD to see if there was any links between that property and those names, Evans with serial number and then Dornor with the serial number. And that's when they advised that Dornor was no longer an employee or it didn't seem like it based on that serial number or the badge number However, they work it and then Evans was an actual sergeant that wasn't on duty at the time But they were gonna try to get a hold of her because I was just asking to see if she you know She knew how to get a hold of them because this was his property
Starting point is 00:30:57 And she was like I had him as a trainee a while ago She said he was kind of a strange guy Said that he was she believed he was either in the army reserves or the navy reserves wasn't sure and she was unsure of how to get a hold of him. So I just impounded it for safe keeping at that point, as found property and that's where we stopped. Only after realizing who Dorner was, did the questions arise. The quick theory you can come up with is maybe
Starting point is 00:31:26 do you want it to be identified? I mean, I don't know why he would dump the stuff if he didn't want to be identified. The other thing is, you know, always runs through your mind is maybe he wanted to ambush an officer, you know, by getting that radio call and doing it right in front of a police department to make his, you know, his point. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And I think that day, the good thing on our end to kind of cancel out that theory I was hoping is that there was about three officers that were here. It's like, why would he drive around the police department or in this area? I mean, if he wants to get away real quick, and I mean, there's many other places that just dump that property. The morning following the murders of Monica and Keith from a hotel room in Manhattan Beach approximately 40 miles away, Dornor posted his rambling open letter to the world on his Facebook page.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It wouldn't be until three days later Wednesday, February 6th that police would discover Dornor's manifesto. When Christopher Dornor's name came up, that definitely gave us a new focus. And as the day progressed, we focused in on him more and more, and he became a more worthwhile lead. Amidst his accusations and perceived slights, pop culture references and life history, Dornor had very clearly threatened Monica Kwan.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own. I'm terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members. Look your wives, husbands, and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead. In Dorner's mind, the killing of Monica Kwan was justified. He wanted Randall Kwan, Monica's father and former LAPD captain. Dorner's representative in the Board of Rights hearing to feel the loss that he felt.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It was all that same day. It was all that Wednesday that we, that so much information was coming in and so much was going on because that was the same day that the manifesto was discovered. Now just having read those first few lines, we're chilling and my first concern was, you know, the safety of some of those people that were involved. I immediately called Randy Kwan to make sure that he and his family were in a safe place and to let him know that there was what we potentially felt was a threat on his life and his family's life.
Starting point is 00:33:56 The police had no idea where Dorner was or who he would target next. So they sent out protective details to every target mentioned in his manifesto. Around 200 cops were sent across jurisdictional lines to protect those, Dorner felt stripped him of his pride. Police math is this, in order to put a police officer in one place, 24-7, 365,
Starting point is 00:34:22 takes 5.5 employees, 5.5 police officers. So when I have to do security details at 50 areas, well you do the math, it's an incredible burden on our resources. It takes a thousand police officers out of the equation easily. But the public should remember, you know, this isn't just about us. You know, this is a man who has demonstrated that he will kill civilians who are connected to law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:34:49 His targets, Caucasian officers who victimized minorities, black officers who sought retribution towards subordinate Caucasian officers, Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity, lesbian officers attempting to prove a misandrous authority by degrading male officers, Asian officers who say nothing about injustice is witnessed, giving them the military designation of high-value targets. By that evening, we received word from San Diego of a attempt vote jacking in which they believe a Christopher Dorner was assessed back. At 10.30 p.m. in Laplaya, 123 miles from the Manhattan Beach
Starting point is 00:35:31 hotel, and approximately 100 miles from Irvine, police were informed that a man matching Dorner's description was spotted trying to steal a boat. 81-year-old Carlos Capriollo owned a 47-foot boat that was docked in slip A-20. He heard footsteps, and then Dorner appeared armed with a handgun. "'I don't want to kill you,' he said. "'But you're going to take me to Mexico.' Dorner unpropped the boat from the dock, throwing the rope into the water.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Almost immediately, it became entangled in the prop, and the boat wasn't going anywhere. Caprioyo offered his car keys, but Dornor abandoned his idea, tying up Caprioyo with his own shoelaces before stealing his cell phone and fleeing into the night. At that point, the suspect according to the victim became frustrated, took a few small items including cell phone and some other miscellaneous items from inside the boat, and tied the victim up and left in an unknown direction. The following day, Thursday, February 7th, Gornor was spotted again. This time by Rippo Man, Lee McDaniel, at an AM-PM convenience store in Corona, once again over 100 miles away from his last known location. McDaniel's
Starting point is 00:36:53 truck was outfitted with license plate readers to help locate vehicles to repossess. He recognized Dorner, although he didn't know from where until he saw his truck. He knew the man on the news was driving a Nissan Titan, but the police described it as blue, not grey like the one the man was standing next to. When he punched in the license number distributed by police, McDaniel system pulled up a picture of a grey Nissan Titan with a roof rack and a bed cover, exactly like the truck at the pump. He knew it was Dornor. He fled the parking lot and pulled across the street as Dornor pulled away and disappeared down the road.
Starting point is 00:37:35 As McDaniel tried to dial police, he noticed an LAPD officer pull into the gas station. He attempted to alert police that he just saw the man they were looking for. Before you could get the words out of his mouth, Dorner drove back by and pulled on to the freeway. The LAPD officers, only in Corona to guard one of Dorner's targets, followed the truck on Interstate 15 to confirm it was actually him. They followed the truck down the Magnolia off ramp and instantly knew it was Dornor.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Today at about 124 this morning, new nozzlers, LAPD, were in route to a special detail related to the search for a Christopher Dornor. They were flagged down in this area of an A&PM by witness who gave them information, who they believe that they observed dornir. The officers began to follow that vehicle, about two blocks, two freeways north on the 15th, exiting Magnolia. Immediately exiting the freeway, the officers made that turn to eastbound where the suspect exited the vehicle, was out of the vehicle immediately with a shoulder weapon and started to shoot at the officers. The
Starting point is 00:38:49 officers took cover, returned fire both officers and one of our officers was grazed during that incident. The other officer is un-injured. The suspect immediately entered the vehicle, entered his vehicle and continued eastbound. Dornard pulled over and parked his vehicle and continued eastbound. Dornard pulled over and parked his truck and was armed and ready when the police cruiser came into view. He unleashed the fury of his 223 assault rifle filling the car with holes. Bullets whizzed through the car, luckily only grazing one officer's head but completely
Starting point is 00:39:22 disabling the vehicle. Before they could recover, Dornor was gone. Out of range for their radios, they had to use cell phones to call in the attack. Dispatch alerted all units. The CACRFI says reasons for all units. Speed info, reference to 119 for LAPD.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And when Dornordian routed, occurred at the 15-3 wing magnolia, the 187 Suspect from Irvine Bridge. Suspect vehicle still outstanding, it's a Black Nissan Titan 7X-ray 03191. It was last in Easton, Magnolia towards Home Garden. Corona got the call,
Starting point is 00:40:03 0124 hours, right? The bridge, 1199. We got the call. A there are 124 hours. 3. 1189. One back. Head on to the lead. Officer, shoot out. Multiple times. 1199. Get up the light. Get up the light. Copy 1199.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Lincoln 31. Dispatch alerted all units. Dornor had already made it 10 miles down the road into Riverside. At a stop light, he noticed a police cruiser sitting across the intersection. The voice you heard break into the dispatcher's announcement was Andrew Takias, a rookie officer on his last night of training with officer Michael Crane. As we're driving towards Magnolia, kind of joking around a little bit with each other.
Starting point is 00:40:44 While stopped at the intersection of Magnnolea and Arlington avenues, Dornor saw them before they saw him. The next thing I remember is... Us being shot. A cab driver, Karam Kaoud, saw the Grey Nissan Titan pull up next to him, then creep across the street before the light turned. Riverside officers didn't notice the infraction. As Dorner pulled alongside a late model Chevrolet Cavalier between him and the police cruiser,
Starting point is 00:41:19 Dorner opened fire. He never got out of his car. He simply fired from the driver's seat over the car between him and his target. He fired at least 13 times into the two men. Things got real rough and I felt that if I were to just close my eyes, I would pass that night. I was bleeding out and it was more of a mental game than a physical one for me. Takias was struck nine times. The bullet hitting him in the back, legs, arms, and shoulder. His partner was worse.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I had an idea of things were looking good because I turned him in the car and asked if he was all right and I didn't get a response. When Takias looked to his training officer, Michael Crane, he was dead, sitting straight up in the passenger seat. The fatal shot to his jugular vein. The taxi driver jumped from his vehicle as the police car slowly rolled across the intersection, now out of control of Takiya's, who lost the use of most of his body. He reached through the shattered window and forced the cruiser into park, causing it to lurch to a stop. I can see him kind of reaching towards my body, and I was assuming he was to grab the microphone
Starting point is 00:42:35 like I was so I directed him to the car mic and he held it up to my mouth for me, and I was able to get help. Obviously, Officer Takia survived the ambush by doorkner and was dubbed the Walking Miracle by his fellow officers. Michael Crane was pronounced dead at the hospital, but his passing, in fact, was almost instant. Riverside police now had the hardest job to do to tell his wife Regina that her husband was gone. I remember having a dream shortly after that that I was standing in the kitchen with him
Starting point is 00:43:15 and we were doing dishes and he said, you can't keep doing this, Gina, you have to stop this. It's, you know, I said, what are you talking about? He says, I'm gone, I'm dead. You cannot just keep talking to me stop this. It's, you know, I said, what are you talking about? He says, I'm gone, I'm dead. You cannot just keep talking to me like this. And I said, no, you're right here. No, I'm not. I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:43:32 You've got to stop. And I woke up screaming and crying. And he was in bed next to me. And I made him turn on the light. I said, I need to see you. I need to see you and make sure you're real. And he says, OK, I'm right here. I'm real.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Need, you know, hug me close and went to bed with the lights on that night, the rest of the night, you know, but it was just a very, very real thing. So when they came to me at four o'clock in the morning to tell me that he had passed, I opened that door and saw those cops out there and I said, no, this isn't real. It's a dream and I shut the door. And Ryan Wilson, who was one of my good friends, put his hand up and said, no, Gina, this is real. Let me in. I knew they didn't have to
Starting point is 00:44:21 tell me. Nobody had to say he's gone. I just... I knew. My first questions to them were, could it have been prevented? Did he suffer? No, no. Gina happened very quick. He didn't suffer. He didn't sit and think. He was peaceful. They said when they showed up,
Starting point is 00:44:42 his eyes were closed, and he was sitting upright and he was very peaceful. I heard that actually from the cab driver too that was first on scene and helped Andrew to call the police. He said that my husband died honorably that he was sitting upright. So everything that I had heard about that was all confirmed. Dornor had struck again and escaped. This time, a cop was killed bringing the body count now
Starting point is 00:45:11 to three dead and two wounded. The city was gripped in fear, and the told Dornor had taken was starting to weigh heavy. Why this slip from his principles, these four men weren't in his manifesto. Two of them weren't even in the LAPD. The field of the case absolutely changed at that time. And we didn't know where he was going. You know, we were chasing him down in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And the next thing we know, he's in Corona and Riverside. We had no idea where he was going to show up next. He had come completely off the manifesto. He's in Corona and Riverside. We had no idea where he was going to show up next. He had come completely off the Mount of Festo, but he had, in a sense, now declared war on law enforcement. And we didn't know where he was going to show up. And the fact is, he ambushed the law enforcement officers just as he had Monica and Keith.
Starting point is 00:46:03 They never gave any of them a chance. Tensions ran high amongst his former brothers in blue. The ambush was an open wound, and they were fighting for their lives. They assumed they could be ambushed anywhere at any time by a man trained in military warfare. He was dangerous and unpredictable. There is nothing that ties him to the city. Again, we don't know why he was in Corona. You know, we know that he had a significant event just before he came into our city. And the contact with this gentleman at Arlington and Magnolia is the only contact that we know about. We believe he departed the city afterwards. This is a somewhat unprecedented, at least a very rare occurrence for us. We have a trained and heavily armed person who was hunting for police officers.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Many of the crimes where police officers get injured and killed are opportunistic. People trying to get away and such. This was pretty purposeful stuff. He's told us what he intends to do and so far he's done it. Look, you have an individual who is who is dangerous, who's not yet been captured. That is undeniable. That should be a concern for all of us. We certainly are concerned. This individual's travels have been so far reaching so widespread that we don't believe that there's any one community that
Starting point is 00:47:41 is at particular risk. No one community was at risk because they were all at risk. Dorners story captivated the nation and his picture was broadcast on every channel and every news outlet dug into his past. With his infamy, growing sightings increased with reports of Dorner being all over the state. Then, as if on cue to support donors claims of excessive use of force, the police slipped up. It was early, around 5 a.m., when Margie Karanza and her mother Emma Hernandez were delivering newspapers and torrents.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It had only been a few hours since donor-killed officer Crane and cops were on edge. Margie and Emma had a simple job, drive down the street and throw newspapers to the front of customers' houses. What the police saw was a truck that looked a lot like Dornor's, creeping down the street towards them.
Starting point is 00:48:39 The officers were stationed outside a potential target's home, a captain on the force. When one officer mistook a newspaper hitting the ground as a silenced gunshot, he opened fire. Then the other seven officers opened fire, releasing at least a hundred rounds in all directions, increasing the potential that they were shooting through their target and at each other. All their training went right out the window. It's just not policy to open fire, and it definitely isn't policy for a group of them to encircle and gun down a suspect.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Margie suffered a minor gunshot wound, but her mother, who was handling her newspapers from the back seat was shot twice in the back as she tried to shield her daughter. Their truck, a blue Toyota Tacoma, not a Nissan Titan, was dotted with bullet holes. Some rounds missed the truck entirely, striking the front doors of nearby residents. A few blocks away, Officer Brian McGee was racing to respond to the shots fired call
Starting point is 00:49:50 and saw a black Honda Ridge line pick up driving away. In the pickup was David Perdue, on his way to do some early morning surfing, and he had already been stopped and questioned by police. When Officer McGee saw him, however, he decided to ram him with his cruiser. The point of contact was right behind the driver's side door. The airbags hadn't fully deflated before three bullets flew through Brian's windshield, barely missing him. Another case of mistaken identity, and overreaction in the midst of Dorner's rampage. The city mourns the deaths of Monica Kwan, Keith Lawrence, and our brave
Starting point is 00:50:36 Riverside police officer. I also feel great sadness for the injuries suffered by my officer, feel great sadness for the injuries suffered by my officer, the second Riverside officer, and the two uninvolved citizens in Torrance. Tragically, we believe that this was a case of mistaken identity by the officers. The hearts of Los Angeles Police Department and my own go out to the families that lost loved ones due to Dauner's criminal actions Anyone who sees Dauner should contact 911 Dauner is to be considered armed and extremely dangerous Christopher Jordan Dauner is described as a male African-American approximately six foot tall
Starting point is 00:51:26 270 pounds. He's 33 years of age. He has black hair and brown eyes. Dorners photos are displayed here. Dorners vehicle is described as a late model Nissan Titan pickup. It's a four-door dark gray and color. The vehicle is equipped with a roof rack and a tunnel cover over the truck bed, the truck has black rims and a department of defense sticker on the driver's side of the front windshield. We are unsure the license plate as we believe he has switched plates. We ask that anyone who sees him or this vehicle should not approach or attempt to contact him. But immediately, immediately, call 911 and notify law enforcement authorities. Of course he knows what he's doing when we trained him. He was also a member of the Armed Forces.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It is extremely worrisome and scary, especially to the police officers involved. You know, the Riverside officers were cowardly ambushed. They had no opportunity to fight back, no pre-warning. You know imagine, imagine going about your workday, having to worry about that threat. The Los Angeles Chief of Police Charlie Beck clarified Dornor and his trucks description hoping to end the misidentifications. If you can call what happened to Margie Emma and Brian, cases of misidentification. The manhunt intensified, spilling over in a surrounding state, and the tips continued
Starting point is 00:52:56 pouring in. Dorner's wallet and briefcase were found near where he tried to steal the boat. The wallet had an authentic detective badge in it. But the real break was when a burnt truck was found up on the mountain over a hundred miles away in Big Bear. It was in the middle of the road and it was blocking the whole road. The hair on my neck stood up.
Starting point is 00:53:17 The front of the vehicle was facing towards the tree here. It was at an angle. The trees partially scorched. At this point, I saw some tracks at the front of the vehicle right alongside the tree. The tracks leading up to the snowbank was up in this location. I tied in with the deputy on 2N10F road.
Starting point is 00:53:37 He stated that he was looking for a vehicle that appeared to be on fire. We had some additional deputies show up, maybe two or three more deputies at this time. They all had their shotguns. They made approach to the vehicle with their guns drawn. They said to me, this vehicle fits a description of a possible murder suspect from down below. What a scary morning for me. It was, that's for sure. Daniel McGowan, a snow plough driver, noticed the gate to Forest Service Road 2N10 was unlocked
Starting point is 00:54:10 and decided to check it out. The service road was narrow and hard to navigate, even when there wasn't a thick layer of snow on the ground. In February, there was always snow, even those who lived in town required snowchains just to get around. With the plow driver stumbled upon was Dornor's grey Nissan Titan, burnt to a crisp, with tracks leading away in the snow. A frenzy ensued on the mountain that afternoon, with swarms of law enforcement agencies and
Starting point is 00:54:42 news crews alike. It had been just over 12 hours since he slaughtered officer Crane, and seriously injured officer Takius, and the authorities were hot on Dornler's literal trail. He wasn't going to get away this time. By that evening, the mountain was covered with law enforcement, armed to the teeth, searching for donor. Meanwhile, the news media dug deeper into Dorner's accusations. Researching the board of rights hearing, he claimed was unjust. Turns out that
Starting point is 00:55:32 Dorner mailed CNN's Anderson Cooper a package that included a coin he received in honor of his military service from former chief of police, William Bratton. He had filled it with holes from a high-powered rifle alongside a DVD labeled, I Never Lied. Here is my vindication. Evans kicked the suspect. Very respectfully, Chris Dorner. Good morning, the breaking news in Southern California.
Starting point is 00:56:01 The manhunt for the X-Cop and suspected triple murder of of Christopher Dorner. As you might know, he sent me a parcel. I learned about it just yesterday. Contained a bullet-riddled, keepsake coin from former LA police chief Bill Braddon. Also, contained a DVD that had testimony from the man at the center of the incident that Dorner says precipitated his firing. The man, Christopher Getler, says he was kicked by an LAPD officer and Dorner apparently believes that Getler's account will bolster his case against the police force. It's a case he lays out into tail in that lengthy rambling manifesto. The question is, is there really anything to it?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Dorner's manifesto read In 807, I reported an officer. Officer Teresa Evans now a sergeant for kicking a suspect, excessive force, during a use of force, while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD's Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, Evans kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately, after reporting it to supervisors, nothing was done. I had broken their supposed blue line. Unfortunately, it's not just us.
Starting point is 00:57:17 It's justice. In fact, ten months later, on 6.25.08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic post-certificate and intermediate post-certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned a patrol at Southwest Division. It is clear as day that the Department retaliated towards me for reporting Evans for kicking Mr. Christopher Gettler. The department stated, I had lied and made up the report that Evans had kicked the suspect.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I later went to a board of rights hearing. During this BOR hearing, the video was played for the panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by officer Evans. In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father, Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn't mention was that the panel made up of Captain Phil Tingerides, Captain Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella, had a significant problem from the time the
Starting point is 00:58:38 board was assembled. Captain Phil Tingerides was a personal friend of Theresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor Station, that is a clear conflict of interest, and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD-BOR was Sergeant Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest, as he was Evans' friend and former partner from Harbor Division, where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied.
Starting point is 00:59:18 The board determined that Christopher Getler's deposition was deemed untrustworthy because he was intellectually challenged. Therefore the kick never happened. In his deposition he reiterated that he was indeed kicked in the face. Being interviewed and tape recorded with his permission is Christopher Getler. Is that correct, Chris? Yeah. Okay. Now, I want to ask you about the
Starting point is 00:59:49 Police contact that you had at the double tree hotel do you remember that? Yeah, okay, do you remember being taken into custody by the police? Okay, do you remember whether there was a struggle? Mm-hmm. And during that struggle, were you kicked in the face? Mm-hmm. You have to say yes or no. Yes. Okay, and do you remember how many times you were kicked in the face?
Starting point is 01:00:19 Bluffs. Okay, and do you remember where you were kicked in the face? Oh, right here. Okay, and do you remember where you were kicked in the face? Um, right here. Okay, and do you remember who kicked you in the face? Um, in the officer? Do you remember what sex, was it a male or female? Was, uh, female. And do you remember whether they were white or black?
Starting point is 01:00:43 Um, they were black, or almost black, I think. And I was almost white. Do you remember whether the female had light color hair or dark hair? She had darker hair. Her hair was not under her. It was a light lighter. Okay, but do you remember being kicked? Yeah. Okay, and how many times? Most.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Okay, and where? It was sorry. I think, yeah, it was sorry. Okay, excellent. I'm going to stop a tape and it is approximately 11, 48 hours. Christopher, thank you very much. That voice you hear asking the questions is former police captain Randall Quann representing Dornor in the hearing. Dornor blames Quann for not fighting for him, but here's the real problem. Gettler remembers being kicked by a female officer on the date in question. But officer Evans is white, not black like Gettler recalled in his deposition. Another issue is that Dorner waited months after the incident before making his complaint.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Dorner claims in his manifesto that he waited due to other complaints he had already filed citing he feared retaliation from his fellow officers. To the board, it looked as if Dornor didn't file a complaint until after he received an unfavorable review from officer Evans, making it look like some sort of retaliation on his part. Whatever the board's reasons for citing the way they did, Dornor felt betrayed by the very institution he loved and trusted. A career that was too tightly woven with his identity was stripped away. He probably asked himself the question,
Starting point is 01:02:37 how can I be right and tell the truth and still be wrong? It's possible that was his tipping point. The moment he realized being an honorable person isn't enough to make the world a better place he had to act. An action necessary, no matter how despicable. a A storm was bearing down on the mountain by the evening of the 7th, and the police had effectively locked it down. There were checks of every car coming or going on only three routes of the mountain. They announced door-to-door searches. The FAA warned away media helicopters. The mountain became a no-fly zone,
Starting point is 01:03:27 and schools were put into lockdown. Then, the snow began to fall. The next morning, Friday, February 8th, 2013, Sheriff John McMahon vowed to continue the search in spite of the falling snow. It was called off briefly during the night, the conditions were just too harsh. That day, almost 13 inches of snow were recorded falling on Big Bear.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Any tracks would soon be gone. With the storm flurries came flurries of doubts surrounding Dornor's case, stirred up by the media. LAPD Chief of Police Charlie Beck announced the case reopened. the police. The police are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police and they are now in the police
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Starting point is 01:04:27 I'm not doing this to appease him. I'm doing this so that the community has faith in what the police department does. And I'm gonna make a rigorous inspection to either validate or refute his claims and we'll make that inspection public. I do it so the public has confidence in the Los Angeles Police Department and his processes. And you know when we talk about reopening the investigation what I said is that we're going to re-examine the investigation we're going to go through it. We're going to re-interview witnesses if necessary.
Starting point is 01:05:00 We're going to look at all the evidence because I think it's important that we be transparent about this and whenever anybody raises allegations we look at all the evidence. Because I think it's important that we be transparent about this. Whenever anybody raises allegations, we look at them. And that's what I've said consistently. I think that it's also important to recognize that this investigation has already been reviewed at multiple levels, including two levels of the court review. And so, even though all of that has happened, we're going to look at it again. And if I have to redo something or deal with an issue, I will deal with it publicly. But unfortunately, we can't make all the interviews public because that's
Starting point is 01:05:37 against the law. While the LAPD was trying to regain some semblance of trust from the public, the search for donor continued on. Specialized vehicles with tank treads were brought in to help traverse the deep snow, armored personnel vehicles, shuttle reinforcements, and relief to and from the mountain. The search continued through the weekend and officers worked long shifts, dredging through knee high snow and altitudes with very little oxygen. On Sunday, a reward was offered. Good afternoon. Today the search for Christopher Dauner continues. And let me be clear. Our dedication to catching this killer remains steadfast. Our confidence that we will bring
Starting point is 01:06:27 them to justice is unshaken. This search is not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And I want Christopher Dorner to know that. To that end, we're all here today for one purpose to stand united and say that we will not tolerate a killer targeting our officers and their families, targeting innocent people in this city and in this region. Yesterday leaders from throughout the region, including leaders from businesses and government, law enforcement and community groups, came together to pull resources and protect our core value of public safety. Collectively, this group, that by my office is posting a reward of $1 million for information that
Starting point is 01:07:27 will lead to Mr. Donor's capture. We will not tolerate anyone undermining the security, the tranquility of our neighborhoods and our communities. We will not tolerate this reign of terror that has robbed us of the mayor of Los Angeles offered a reward, the authorities on the mountain had no choice but to scale back the search after four days, with not a single additional clue. They knew where he wasn't. They had already searched over 400 homes. He could have made it off the mountain. He could be dead under the snow somewhere, or he could still be held up in a remote, and fully prepared to die. Dornor was fleeing in the Reynolds Stolen Nissan Rogue down the mountain on Highway 38.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Officers on their way to set up a checkpoint further up the highway noticed a small SUV truck behind two buses heading down the mountain. We're at Glass Road, headed down down. We've lost them. We had a visual on a small dark color Nissan SUV as behind the bus. We were off to the opposite direction, directly for trying to catch up so far what you had in located it. They could have turned down glass if a 14 head down glass doing a area check. It's important to keep going down 30. The officer spotted a vehicle that matched the description but lost it in the winding
Starting point is 01:09:38 mountain roads. Officer scrambled to glass road from all directions. To give you an idea of how much time pass since he left the rentals tied up, at the time of the sighting near glass road, officers were just arriving to Unit 203. We're calling out to the victim. She's not standing back. Door's open. We're inviting a possibility of hamper. So we're going to take cover if you're calling out to her. My deputies are calling out for you. Can you hear them?
Starting point is 01:10:06 No, but all the doors and windows are closed. Can you try to scream out for the deputies, please? Ha! Before anyone could investigate Glass Road, Rick Helt to break an employee at a nearby resort was already there heading towards Highway 38 when a man came out of the woods. And I got to within about a half mile of the highway and coming up on a right hand curve and I saw some movement off to the left in the trees and I could see it with somebody with a gun which we've seen a lot of people around here with guns lately, sheriff people
Starting point is 01:10:40 and others checking our camps and our properties and things just like we saw in the news They were doing up in big grill. They wanted got down here to this area. We're checking around so I knew they were around That's kind of what I thought at first and then I could tell it was some Mr. Dorm He came out of the snow abbey with his rifle pointed at me. I wasn't going very fast. So I stopped put my truck in park put my hands up and So I stopped put my truck in park put my hands up and He came up and he said I don't want to hurt you just get out of your truck and start walking and take your dog And that's what I did. I said can I take can I get her leash? I said no just start walking
Starting point is 01:11:18 So I got out of the truck got my dog Started walking up the road as he wanted me to I got out about maybe 10 seconds later. I heard a Pretty good size volley of gunfire from where he was at 10 20 25 rounds up like that. So apparently he got in my truck and turned it around and he was gonna be heading down the road that I was just coming up on so at that point I kind of bailed off the paved road and into the snow, found myself a big tree to hide behind. And I called that local deputy that I've seen earlier on his cell phone, I've got his number. And he answered, he said, what's up Rick? And I said, Paul, he just took my truck.
Starting point is 01:11:56 So he confirmed the description of my truck. And I said, okay. And I kept running through the snow up to the highway. You're description of my truck and said okay and I kept running through the snow up to the highway and I got up to the highway I called a friend that works at another camp nearby. He has a drop what you're doing to come give me and face him Get me out of here. It was clear from his demeanor that I wasn't one of his targets And he just needed a vehicle and I was happy to oblige and he just needed a vehicle and I was happy to oblige. 4-5-0. Just took another truck. It can be a white Dodge ticket truck.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Hit it down down the last road and the subject that called me, Hurtstruck's Fire after he took his truck. Copy it. All available units to Glass Road in 38. Possible vehicle or white Dodge truck headed downbound. RP also advising her to shop the fire. On the other end of Glass Road, three wardens from the California Department of Fish and Wildlife were in two vehicles headed towards Highway 38 on the lookout for the Purple Rogue. Wade and Dustin Holyoke was in the first vehicle and noticed Dornor driving the white dodge
Starting point is 01:13:07 pickup. Dornor saw him too. Holyoke radioed the second vehicle but it was too late. Dornor opened fire as he passed Warren's David McNair and Ben Matthias on Glass Road, shattering windows and pitting body panels with bullets. Luckily, he missed both the wardens and their German shepherd Reno. Ben Matthias, former Marine, leapt from the truck and returned fire, unloading the magazine in his high-powered 308 assault rifle. He watched as Dorner wound down the mountain road and out of sight. 12-5-3-4-6.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Go ahead. Do this advise that they have to have vehicle heading down glass road towards a Radford Camp road or possibly 7-0-3-Zord? Then officers found the rogue. 4-5-30-A. I have the rogue on glass road. PC off the fence, the road a snow bank. Airbags deployed. That sniper rifle was inscribed with the word vengeance. There was also a satchel containing smoke grenades and CS canisters, top grade tear gas.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Dornor was on the run and leaving things behind in a panic. He was close and the officers on the mountain could sense his desperation. The radio call went out. They reached a point where they had tracks going in both directions, up and down the mountain. Are we sure using the vehicle and what tracks we're following? Vehicle or foot? Fire fire, stop fire, 4-5 shots fired, 7-0 scabin, 7-0 scabin. Howdy, shot fire, 7-0 scabin. Welcome to our whole crew of our 30-fire.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Nothing returning fire. 5-7-0 scabin, it's gonna be approximately a half a mile. West or Blasero, and Erohsford. We have the officer down, officer down. Copy officer down. Dorner was in the cabin, taking pot shots at the officers. The dodge pickup ditched down a hill behind the cabin. Detective Alex Collins was shot below the knee in the
Starting point is 01:15:47 arm, in his chest, and in his face, knocking teeth out, ripping through his tongue and destroying his jaw upon exit. He was down but conscious, drooling blood from what was left of his mangled mouth, as he scrambled to cover behind a SUV. Next to him was deputy Jeremiah McKay, radioing in the officer down call trying to direct the medical helicopter away from Dornor's fire. A single bullet hit Deputy McKay right above his trapped, but there was no way out now. And these guys were pissed. Officers tossed smoke grenades as an armor vehicle dubbed the Bear, arrived to help rescue the officer stranded in the kill zone.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Quickly the cabin was surrounded. Back in LA, Commander Andrew Smith updated the public. This individual barricaded themselves in one of the cabins there and a exchange of gunfire occurred. During that exchange of gunfire, two officers were injured. They've been airlifted to a local hospital. Right now their condition is unknown. If he's watching this, a message for himself is enough, it's time to turn yourself in, it's time to stop the bloodshed, it's time to let this event and let this incident be over."
Starting point is 01:17:31 The large number of officers hunkered down behind trucks and SUVs were ready for this to be over, too. In spite of the Sheriff's Department having the building surrounded and ordering the LAPD SWAT team to stand by, they came anyway, blaming a miscommunication. Perhaps they needed to see it for themselves, or maybe they came there to make sure he died. Either way, the Sheriff's Department already had a plan to smoke him out. A burner is a pyrotechnic tear gas canister that tended to catch things on fire, hence the name. Normal tear gas canisters had already been lobbed into the cabin, but Dorner had yet to surrender.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Dorner went to make a big fort, went to form it there. They brought in an armored demolition vehicle, like a mini bulldozer, and ripped walls off the cabin in preparation to launch the burners. Dornor feared they were going to storm the cabin and set off another smoke grenade, as if the advantage could save him. We have a fire. Copy 7 burns. Despoil, do we have a fire? You guys be ready on the number 4 side. We have fire in the front. You might come out the back. Quickly, the cabin was fully engulfed in flames. But, doorkner never appeared.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Do you want to wait your sound like one shot? Fire from inside out, resident? Copy, one shot from inside the resident. Can fire me still on fire to run. The fire department was standing by but couldn't get close. Once the fire grew, the ammo in the cabin began to explode. It wasn't safe to extinguish. So Dorner sat somewhere inside the cabin as law enforcement watched it burn. As the cabin burned, media outlets gave the nation a bird's-eye view with helicopter
Starting point is 01:19:36 circling as close as they could get. News reporter Carter Evans happened to make it through police closed roads and found himself caught a little He had a front seat view to the firefight and a unique perspective to the emotions of those fighting around him. Officers hustled all around, taking cover behind vehicle after vehicle, out of breath, but unwilling or too disciplined to rest. After all, the owner was responsible for the murders of their figurative brothers. Shortly after the burners were launched, Evans overheard this. It doesn't sound like a tactical decision. It sounds like an emotional one.
Starting point is 01:21:10 The night ended and the media signed off as the cabin started to smolder. The following day Sheriff McMahon defended his officer's actions. Good afternoon. The events that occurred yesterday in the Big Bear area brought to close an extensive manhunt for murder suspect Christopher Dornor. We believe suspect Dornor began firing and ambushed our deputy sheriffs that were responding. Two of our deputy sheriffs were struck by gunfire, one of which was severely injured, deputy Alex Collins. He's currently at the hospital being treated. He went through a couple of
Starting point is 01:21:52 different surgeries. I just spoke to his wife. He's in good spirits and should make a full recovery after a number of additional surgeries. Unfortunately, our other deputy, Detective Jeremiah McKay, was pronounced deceased at 2.24 p.m. I cannot absolutely positively confirm it's him. The suspect that we were following and also had stolen the vehicle matched his description, his behavior based on our deputy's interaction with him inside the vacant cabin was consistent with Mr. Dorner's activity prior to, and we're not currently involved in a man hunt any longer.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Our coroner's division is working on trying to confirm the identity through forensics and we should know that at some point here soon. You had the issue on Wednesday that you did not intentionally burn that cabin down to get Mr. Dorn or how you may know I was at the scene that day and audio we recorded there suggest different we heard several officers saying at the beginning of the gun down let's burn that cabin down let's burn that expleted out was immediately made to believe that that made the plan all along. Sir I did make that statement on Wednesday at the press conference that we did not intentionally
Starting point is 01:23:08 burn that cabin down. I stand by that remark. There is some recordings that I have heard on the news that would suggest that somebody, we have no idea at this point who made those comments. We are looking into those and we'll deal with those appropriately. I would suggest to you that those comments were made by somebody away from the tactical team. They were not covered over the radio as my understanding that they were made by somebody away from the tactical team. The other thing to remember is our deputy sheriffs and the other officers that
Starting point is 01:23:42 were present are human beings. They had just been involved in probably the one of the most fierce fire fights and sometimes because we're humans we say things that may or may not be appropriate. We will look into this and we will deal with it appropriately. The charge remains inside the cabin were eventually identified to be that of Dorner through dental and DNA comparison. This cause of death was a single gunshot to the head, self-inflicted. Dorner risked it all to clear his name, and a strange perversion of justice, killing innocents, and eventually sacrificing his own life. Yet the review of Dorners firing ended
Starting point is 01:24:26 with the same result. His legacy was solidified as a liar that should have been fired. As for the $1 million reward, only part of it was rewarded to the Reynolds from Mountain Vista Resort, Daniel McGowan who spotted Dorners burning truck, and Lee McDaniel, who spotted Dorner at the AMPM. Many of the Dorner's pulled their money out, citing the criteria for the reward was not met. Dorner was not captured and tried. He was cornered and killed.
Starting point is 01:24:59 In the end, the Reynolds received $708,800. McGowan received $132,900, and McDaniel was awarded $44,300, but died from bladder cancer a month previous to its distribution. Was Dorner a victim? What do you think? Had he been wronged? Almost definitely, in some ways, throughout his life. But the actions he chose to respond to those injustices with removed his status as a victim and cemented him as an aggressor.
Starting point is 01:25:40 When you start killing people, you're no longer a victim. You're an asshole. And when you see an entire class of people based on your own personal bias as fully deserving, violence and hatred, then you're also a bigot. It doesn't matter how you group them together. By race, religion, sex, or in this case, profession. All cops are bad. Fuck the police.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Perpetuating hatred and violence towards any group due to the misdeeds of a few is clearly not just, not right, no matter how much of a perpetual victim someone might think they are. Every child knows that. Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me. We could all learn a thing or two from that saying. you you

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