Sword and Scale - Episode 277
Episode Date: November 17, 2024Florida fire-fighter, Derrick Dorsey came home from work to discover his wife Kim dead from an apparent suicide. Then the police declared her death a murder and began exploring connections the Dorseys...’ had with less than reputable people. But they quickly learn that not everyone is who they seem.
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Is anyone really who you think they are?
Today we present just the very best moments of our lives on social media for the world
to see.
But that's not really the whole picture, is it?
There's a lot more to us than what we show.
What we show can be intentionally deceiving sometimes.
That's why it's important not to believe
everything you see online, especially if it's coming from an anonymous source. That
influencer that you follow that puts on makeup while talking about someone's
death, yeah, she cries sometimes. Yeah, maybe she's even depressed. Maybe her life's fallen apart behind the scenes and you don't even know it.
Looks could be deceiving. And no, I'm not talking about anybody in general.
There's lots of makeup tutorial, true crime shows out there, sadly.
But the point is that sometimes people aren't who they seem to be.
Monsters are very much real, but they aren Florida firefighter had just returned home
after a grueling 24-hour shift to find out wife Kim lying bloody at the foot of their
bed.
She was naked except for a white cotton shirt which had been pushed up around her neck, exposing her upper body. I'm not getting a list of these. And what is the number? 10 rescue 50. Okay sir, tell me exactly what happened.
I don't know if you guys committed suicide,
10 rescue 50 in my city retirement, come on.
Sir, we are sending rescue,
you have to tell me exactly what she did, what happened?
I don't know, she either cut herself or something.
I can't see, I'm trying to figure this the fuck out.
Okay, are you with her right now?
Yes, I am.
Okay, how old is she? I don't know, she's 44. That doesn't make a difference. Good rescue.
Kim had blood all over her face and hair. At first glance, it appeared that she had tried to hurt
herself. So that's what her husband told dispatch. Her body was cold and posed like a fallen ballerina with one leg curled, frozen in a
pirouette.
Kim had two white zip ties around each of her wrists and one around her ankle.
Kim's husband had found himself on the receiving end of a tragedy.
As a firefighter, he experienced tragedy every shift, but it was much different now
that it was happening in his own home,
and he was growing increasingly angry
as he waited for help.
Sir, we are sending rescue.
Is she awake?
No, she's not.
I think she's dead.
Okay, is she breathing?
No, I'm trying to get this dude to go out
on the balcony, but don't try to talk to your ass.
This is when Kim's husband began to realize
that his wife was dead.
Rescue.
Rescue.
Yes.
We're on the phone because when I asked him what was going on,
he didn't tell me she tried to commit suicide,
so we're on the way, too.
OK.
All right, sir, go ahead and continue with CTR.
We do have rescue on the way.
He said he was a fireman?
He said he was a top-duty fireman.
What is your last name, sir?
His name was Derek Dorsey.
He was 44 years old and had been married
to his wife Kim for a decade.
Now she lay naked and dead in their master bedroom.
The realization of what was happening made Derek soften a little, and he finally let
the tears out.
Oh Jesus Christ.
You're in rescue?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, sir, so you think she's beyond any resuscitation?
Yes, she's in rescue anyway.
She's in the patient's cell.
Yes, rescue's on the way, okay?
You know what happened?
Yeah, I know.
Oh fuck me.
I'm dead.
I'm dead.
I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. Yes, rescue is on the way, okay? You know what happened? Yeah, okay.
Oh, fuck me. I don't know what happened.
Alright, rescue is on the way.
This wasn't another shift as a firefighter. This was his house.
His bedroom was covered in his wife's blood.
Derek finally saw the situation for what it really was.
He had just lost his wife, and he had no idea
what had happened.
Did you just come home or did you, were you?
Yeah, I just got off duty.
Okay.
Was she already depressed about something?
I don't know, no, he's been fine.
Oh, I know. If the boys are into it, it looks like his one's missing.
Kim and Derek Dorsey had a large upscale house
in a gated community.
Because they had no children,
only three miniature Schnauzers,
the couple were free to focus on their careers
and self-care.
They had a gym, a bar, a billiard room,
a big office, and a tanning room.
All the fine luxuries in modern living.
Kim had her own construction company
and also worked as a director of training
for the quality assurance department of Inspection Depot.
The Dorsey's had a pretty comfortable life.
The Dorsey's also a pretty comfortable life.
The Dorseys also kept guns in the home for safety.
Kim had one in a drawer beside her bed and now it was missing.
Kim had no bullet holes in her, but there were obvious shots that had been fired into the walls. Oh my god. I don't know what's going on.
So which door was open?
Are y'all there by this door? D-R-A-W-E-R.
Oh, okay. It's just hard to understand something, you know, when you talk a little loud, you get a little distorted, that's all.
Oh, but I don't want to talk to anybody right now.
Well, it's our job to stay on the phone until the officer gets there when it's this type of call, okay?
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, Rescue's here.
He's good.
Alright.
When help arrived, Kim was quickly taken to the medical examiner's office.
When Rescue lifted her body, they found a broken pool cue underneath her.
Police began to search the house and found
more peculiarities besides the plastic zip ties on Kim's body. The house was a mess.
A dog statue at the front door had been kicked over. Derrick's home office had been destroyed.
Paperwork was thrown everywhere and drawers were ripped open.
In the guest bedroom there was blood on the mattress. Police also found a half-drunk bottle
of Bacardi rum on the nightstand and cigarette butts on the floor. But neither Derek nor
Kim smoked. In fact, Kim despised smoking and forbade it in the home. Christmas wrapping
paper had been tossed out of
the closet and chucked onto the floor. Downstairs the kitchen sink had been filled with TV remote
controls for some reason. In the billiard and games room, a custom pool cue was missing from
its place on the shelf. It was the same one found under Kim's body. After days of looking
into this bizarre scene, the police needed more to work with. Perhaps this
was a robbery gone wrong. So they went to the public.
Coming to you today because several days later after that beginning of that
investigation we are not a whole lot farther along than we were Sunday morning.
I would like to solicit the public's help for information on this case.
This case has garnered quite a bit of attention because of the fact this is a public servant's family member who was killed.
The public has shown a lot of interest and support thus far. I wanted to come forward at this time asking for help.
Again, we worked that scene for several days, nearly around the clock.
And like I said, because of the lack of witnesses, the physical evidence,
nothing has led us a whole lot farther today in identifying or leading it to a suspect
than we had that Sunday morning.
And again, this is a public service family member and we want to make sure that anybody
who has any information can come forward and help us.
These types of crimes occur because I tend to talk about them.
Family members talk about them.
Appointments of the suspect, the suspect in this case, would talk about it.
Somebody knows something somewhere.
Kim's murder was brutal and messy.
As police continued to examine the scene and talk to Derek,
they found even more weird things.
Derek's custom Harley Davidson Zippo lighter
was missing from its box.
Whoever did this to Kim had clearly stolen it.
Yet they'd left Derek's Rolex watches on the nightstand
and his computer untouched.
In the garage, they found a lonely wives porn magazine,
which Derek swore was not his.
How much evidence of foul play? Substantial.
Can you describe some of that?
I would prefer not to. Keep in mind that there's just about anybody out there who could be our
suspect and I don't want to let too much information to answer your question out.
Too much information can be bad in a particular incident, but know that there were substantial
indications of foul play and obviously it's being worked out in part.
Kim's head and face had been brutally beaten.
Her breasts were bruised and her ribs were fractured.
She had died from one deep fatal stab wound to the neck.
When detectives asked Derek to turn on his DVD player in the living room, he expected
to see a movie he and Kim had been watching pop up on the screen.
But that didn't happen.
Instead, a porn movie called Lonely Wives came up.
Derek got angry.
Motherfucker, that should not be on there.
That's the same magazine that's out in the garage.
It is a gated neighborhood, so there may be some people in that actual neighborhood who
we haven't spoken to.
If there's relative information that anyone has regarding the activities that Kim may
have had that Saturday to that Sunday, we would start to like to speak with them as well.
Now, the police had their work cut out for them.
In the meantime, Derek prayed that somebody somewhere knew something. Derek Dorsey had returned home from a 24-hour firefighting shift to find his wife Kim beaten
and stabbed to death in their upscale home.
The house had been ransacked but in strange ways.
The police found remote controls in the kitchen sink as though someone had attempted to wash
them. Zip ties around Kim's wrists as well as a pornographic movie in the DVD player.
None of Derek's Rolex watches or computers had been taken.
It seemed that whoever killed Kim stuck around the house for a long while after drinking
and smoking and watching a porn movie called Lonely Wives.
I haven't seen that one. I wonder if there's a part two or three or four.
Derek Dorsey was cooperative with the police. He admitted that things between
him and Kim were not so great. Then again, every couple goes through tough times at one point or another.
But Derek had been kind of sleeping around with other women behind her back.
Maybe Kim knew.
Maybe she didn't.
But he swore that he still loved his wife deeply.
Well, she was a strong, beautiful, independent individual.
Worked hard for everything she ever did.
She was a productive member of society.
This is just the type of person that she was.
Derek said he had nothing to gain from Kim's death.
There was no life insurance policy to be cashed out or a new girlfriend to move in and take
Kim's place.
Plus, Derek's alibi was solid and actually checked out.
He was working at the fire station during the murder.
So who did this?
Derek and Kim were a career-oriented couple.
They had no kids, just a few dogs,
and both worked in the construction world.
Kim had a degree in civil engineering
and headed up quality assurance for an inspection depot
where she helped Floridians prepare construction
for hurricanes.
Derek ran his own general contracting business
on top of being a firefighter.
So they had a lot of cash,
but Kim took her work very seriously
and it soon weighed on her.
She couldn't turn off work and she found herself taking antidepressants.
She gained a lot of weight.
Her body changed and her mind didn't feel so great.
The week she was killed, she was planning on going back to the doctor to switch up her
medication.
The side effects were taking a major toll on her physical and mental
health. That's why Derek immediately thought she had killed herself when he
came home to find her, you know, dead.
Okay, sir, tell me exactly what happened.
I don't know if the crime committed suicide. Ben rescued, sent to a
mob duty fireman. Come on.
But Kim's death was not a suicide. The state of the house told a story of turmoil. Kim had clearly
fought off whoever had attacked her. She'd even managed to get a gun at one point and fire off
some rounds at her assailant. But she missed and the bullet hit the wall. It was also determined
that Kim had been raped.
She died from blunt force trauma to her head and a fatal stab wound.
This attack was as personal as it is sickening.
Derek ran a general contracting business and often employed various young guys on quick
jobs.
He gave the police a few names including Joshua Veal and Lance Kirkpatrick or LJ as he was
called.
Lance actually lived with the Dorsey's at one point and Derek said that he would have
taken a bullet for Kim.
So tell me when you lived with them.
When was that?
Not too long ago.
Not too long ago.
Why not?
And I stayed there or here and there if I had to.
Okay.
So who lives at the house besides him and her? The kids? No, they if I have to.
So who lives at the house besides him and her?
They have kids?
No, they don't have kids.
Okay.
Do you have a car?
No.
No car.
Alright, so would he take you to work or take you to the job site?
Yeah, he'd take me to the job site.
Sometimes I'd fall like, depending on where I'm staying, he'd come pick me up.
No.
So roughly how long, if you don't care as long as you know Derek, they've been married
the whole time?
Yeah, they've been married the whole time, pretty much I meant.
Who'd you meet first?
Well I met Derek first because I was working on his house, you know, this is before they
moved in, this is before they moved in to the house.
Okay, like they were building that house together?
Yeah.
Okay, I gotcha. I gotcha. Okay. Lance said that he met the Dorsey's when he worked on their house.
Then Derek would call him to come do random jobs for his business.
How long ago did you say you lived with him?
Maybe a month, month and a half. Okay. Not even.
I mean, I just went and cleaned my apartment.
It's been probably less than a month because I just went and cleaned my apartment. It's been probably less than a month
because I just went and cleaned the room.
You know, he called me like a week or two ago,
asked me to come clean the room up upstairs.
Okay.
Did you leave the trash or...?
Well, I didn't leave the trash,
but I still had some clothes up there,
you know, a bathroom for me to be cleaned,
you know, regular cleaning, stuff like that.
Okay. So you went and did all that?
So I went and did all that.
When did you do that?
About two weeks ago.
Two weeks ago, okay.
Lance said that he hadn't been to the Dorsey's house since he cleared out his stuff.
So you move out, when you move out, where you living, when you actually move out of his place?
I went and stayed in the apartment in Atlanta.
Okay, that's when you spoke to Brian?
Yeah.
Okay, I gotcha.
Lance said that he'd been staying with a new friend named Brian Kiefer.
As he told police after leaving the Dorseys, he'd become a bit of a vagabond.
Who are you then?
I'm just whoever I can say.
Okay.
When the police were on to Lance, they didn't just bring him in for fun.
You see, Lance had told Derek
that he was on a shrimping boat in Georgia when Kim died.
But that wasn't true.
He was in Jacksonville, staying with his buddy Brian.
Brian wasn't the most savory guy, put it that way.
He was straight up sketch.
And the police soon got a hold of
Brian and brought him in to talk. There was a person that you know by the
nickname of LJ. Do you know his real name? It's Lance Kirkpatrick but there is a
middle name. I forget what it was. And he goes by the nickname of LJ? LJ. And do you
have a nickname that you go by?
Is that money?
Yeah, just whatever the black people gave me.
Okay.
I mean, no racism.
No problem.
The woman that money, aka Brian, is talking to is black.
Just for context.
Anyway.
But the black people call you money?
Just like the circle of drug dealers.
That's the name they gave me for some reason.
So I let it be that way.
That way I know that's the people that are talking to me.
All right.
Brian was your typical Floridian drug dealer.
Think GTA 6 if you're a gamer.
He was thin and tanned with a shaved head. He
did the entire interview with his shirt off because I don't know because he
wanted to. He wanted to show off his cool tribal tattoos you know maybe because he
fancied himself hot. I don't know I don't I don't really know what goes through certain people's heads, but
He just sat there with a shirt off and everyone else in the room was wearing normal clothes
I want to direct your attention to Florida, Georgia weekend. Do you remember that weekend? Yes last past
Did you?
Have an occasion to see I guess a lady by the name of Melissa give her keys
to LJ?
Yes.
Florida, Georgia weekend was the weekend of Kim's murder.
For those of you that aren't Southern trash like me, let me translate.
It's a big football thing.
That's really all you need to know.
Lance said he was on a shrimping boat that weekend, but he wasn't.
Okay. And what kind of card does Melissa have?
A rat for a Toyota.
Okay, do you recall what color it is?
Like navy blue, but it's older so it's a little faded.
Okay, to your knowledge was that did Melissa give LJ those keys on Friday?
Saturday morning.
Saturday morning?
At 430 a.m. 430 in the morning.
The police had been at a standstill in their investigation so they began checking security
footage from the gated community where the Dorseys lived. In the morning, a few hours
before Derek found his wife, they saw the same blue RAV4 driving on their street.
Did you know where LJ was going? To pick up drugs for the blackmail that was in the house with Melissa.
Okay, did he combat with the drugs? No. And did that concern you? Yes, was that unusual for him not to come back?
very unusual because he
was one of my employees and like
Never had done anything wrong period
Okay
And was the girl Melissa was she getting concerned too about her car?
She was a crackhead. So she was just driving me up the wall.
All right. So you get the picture. Lance and Brian were into some shady meth
business. Brian's house acts like a hub for users to stop in, pick up drugs, do
some, and then leave. Lance is staying there and working for Brian because construction and everything
else in his life has slowed down. Now, Brian was involved in the drug world, but he also
ran a legit business too.
How long have you known LJ?
Three months. He reached work for me.
And how'd you, you met him? How? I met him when I was at a drug
dealer's house. I went over there to pay, I helped the GC get off heroin for three
months and I went and paid off all his debt so that he could be my partner in
my business and one of the black gentlemen there stole my vehicle so
I was kind of stuck there and that's where I met LJ and he kind of explained to me what
was going on there and then he was having a crappy life and then he wanted to be involved
in that and if I could please help him and I was like, I give you my work buddy.
I will try my hardest to help you in life.
And when I leave here, I'll take you with me if you want and put you to work.
And what kind of business do you have?
BK Foreign.
So I pretty much do complete home remodels, but my main focus is flooring. So you start to get a picture of the kind of life Brian is leading.
Flooring by day, meth by night.
When Lance met Brian, he was technically homeless, using occasionally and going down a dark path.
On the night of the murder, Lance takes Melissa's car to pick up some more drugs, but he never comes back.
That same car is seen on Derek Dorsey's street.
Now, at some point in time, were you so concerned
that you went out with a person by the nickname of T
to go look for LJ in a cab?
Yeah, I spent $480 for about four hours of riding around in a cab
looking for LJ everywhere he's been to, went, everything. And were you able to
find him? Didn't find a trace of him. Okay and then you ultimately I guess go
home and go to sleep. Is that what happened? I didn't want to go home
because I didn't want to face my girl or the girl that
Car got taken from. So I went to my mom's.
Oh, right.
And then I had my girl brought over to my mom's and then I was hoping that other girl would go.
The other girl, Melissa, did go eventually, but she was pissed.
Despite being a crackhead, Melissa called the police to report her RAV4 stolen.
She told them exactly what had happened and gave Lance his name.
That's how the RAV4 ended up on the police radar, and how Lance's name clicked when
it showed up on the report.
My next understanding is that you get a call from LJ on Sunday. Is that right? Is that a yes? Yes, ma'am.
Okay, and
What does he tell you when he calls you on Sunday?
We need to meet and
Tells me the location
And is that the gate? On Southside in Tustin. Okay, and do you go to the gate on Southside and Tustin?
I go there in Gator City Tech, in Gator City Cab,
and he's standing out front, and he tells me,
do I need to show you? Sure, you can go ahead.
Okay, he tells me that, can we pause it?
No? Okay, what?
Okay.
He tells me that he murdered somebody and just pretty much is going to prison.
And there's nothing that can be done about it.
And I'm saying, I said, what do you mean you murdered somebody and your life is over and you're going to prison?
He's like, I'm going to prison.
Brian was skeptical.
Lance wasn't exactly the most credible person and they were both, well, you know, sketchy. I'll just use the word sketchy. Is your son dead? Is
your ex-wife dead? Am I dead? Is my fiance dead? No, right? And he's like, No. And I was like, so there are people you care
about still in the world. And he said yes. And I said, so why don't you focus on those people for
now? While your head's running in circles. And I don't even know if you're telling me the story or not, you know, because you've been out drinking, you have your knuckles broken, you know,
and why don't you just focus on right now this moment?
What do you want to do?
If you're going to prison, but you're not turning yourself
in, what do you want to do right now?
Do you want to watch the game?
He's like, yeah, I want to get a beer and watch the game. I was like,
all right, I'll buy you a beer and watch the game.
As they were talking, Brian noticed how bad Lance's hand looked.
His bone was sticking out of his hand. Was he trying to treat it at all? It looked like he
had cleaned himself up really good. So the last time you saw him he didn't
have any injuries to his hand?
He had a cut on his hand, but he did not have a broken finger.
Okay.
He was scared that the DNA would have gotten on the body.
And then he made those statements to you.
Did you have any idea if those were true or not?
I didn't know if he had just gotten into a fight. He didn't say that it was a woman.
If he had said it was a woman, then I would have, you know,
kind of reacted more, you know?
But just coming there, kind of looking drunk,
kind of just, you know, he was just really, like, slow.
You know, wasn't giving me no info.
You know, the only thing he said was, I'm going to go to the bathroom. That's when the two parted ways. Yeah. And he didn't tell me nothing about how the murder happened at that time.
That's when the two parted ways.
But Lance would return to Brian's mom's house later to watch that Florida-Georgia game.
He came over and I made him two hamburgers and a drink.
And I walked upstairs
and he was curled up in a ball sleeping.
Okay.
Lance hung out for a few days,
but the two never talked about the murder again.
Then Brian saw something on television
about Lance's boss's wife committing suicide.
Did you ever learn about this case at all?
Like three days ago.
I think you said, you thought it was a suicide.
And it said suicide on it.
Okay, so is that all the information you have from the beginning?
That's when I completely thought he was bullshitting.
Okay.
You know, because how can you make a murder
look like a suicide if somebody shot at you?
It made no sense. Okay, and so- So essentially, Brian forgot about the whole murder thing and just moved on.
Then Lance brought it up again and things got serious.
Well, let me ask you about the conversation that you ended up having. You said a couple
days after he was over your mom's house. Tell me like where y'all are when you have a conversation.
The one you tell me. Over your mom's house? Yeah. And house? And what does he say at that point?
He says, he didn't say her, he just said,
I hit, I swung the pool stick so hard,
it broke in 12 pieces, and it's a $2,000 pool stick.
No details of the crime have been released
to the public yet.
Brian was telling them things that only the killer
could have known, like the broken pool cue,
which was later found under Kim's dead body.
Did he say why he was over there first?
Yeah, he said he was over there to pick up his son's PlayStation 3 and Xbox and games
and some clothes for his son.
At one point, Lance had been married and he had a young son from that relationship.
Apparently, when he went back to the Dorsey's to collect his son's things, Kim wasn't happy.
He said that the lady was going to call his boss.
Her husband?
Was at the fire station.
Yeah, her husband.
And I guess he took her cell phone is what he said.
He said I took her cell phone and I told her to. He said, I took her cell phone,
and I told her to get out of my way that I just wanted my stuff.
And told her to leave me alone,
that I just wanted my stuff.
And pretty much, she just goes into,
I don't know whether he hit her with that pool stick,
but he kinda emphasized swinging the pool stick okay and then he
emphasized being shot at five times and then he said that he was waiting for the sixth shot
because he knew it was a revolver okay but when he heard the window open he thought the lady was going out through the window.
He ran in there and beat her with his hand
and then stabbed her.
The story was sparse and patchy, but the details matched up.
The broken pool cue, the five bullet holes in the wall
and the blood on the window.
Why was she shooting at you?
Where were, you know, but I didn't really want to question him
because I didn't want to stop him from telling me stuff.
Okay.
Like I'm interrogating him, you know?
Right.
So, and at the same time, I didn't really believe him.
Let's go back to what he was telling you, though.
He says that, I guess, she shoots at him, he hits her,
and it stabs her.
Where does he say he stabbed her?
I believe in the neck.
OK.
Upper facial neck area.
So somewhere, her neck or above?
Yeah.
Okay.
Does he say how many times?
Hmm.
Okay.
Well, he just says I stabbed her.
Okay.
And then what does he say?
Does he say that she was dead or does he say anything about that?
He said the lady was saying, stop.
You're killing me.
Brian's statement secured Lance as the killer,
but still the question of why remained.
Why was Kim so angry when Lance showed up at the house
to get his things?
This was someone that Derek had told the cops
would take a bullet for Kim.
Derek had nothing bad to say about Lance, so why was Kim threatened when he showed up at her house?
Brian had revealed the details of the gruesome attack,
and he was about to give police a glimpse into the motive.
And it didn't make Derek look all that wholesome.
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shopify.com slash sword and scale. Florida Firefighter and General Contractor Derek Dorsey had come home to find his upscale
home ransacked and his wife Kim brutally murdered.
The couple's former employee, Lance Kirkpatrick, had been seen driving a stolen car to the
Dorsey's house on the day of the murder.
And now his former boss, Brian Kiefer, had told police that Lance admitted to the murder.
Without Brian, the police didn't have much. They had to keep him talking.
And then what does he say happens next?
He said he was just so out of it, He stayed there for two hours waiting on the police
to get there.
And then he left and then went back there two hours later
because he realized he left his phone there.
And then he cleaned up around there.
What did he say he did to clean up?
He just said he cleaned up. There it was again. Okay. Because he tried to call her husband. He tried to call her, she tried to call her.
Okay.
There it was again.
When Lance showed up at the Dorsey's house to get his son's things,
he told Brian that Kim got so upset,
she started threatening to call Derek at work.
But Derek had told police that Lance was a good guy who would never do anything to Kim.
Then Brian revealed something sinister.
And he had said that her husband always cheated on her.
The husband cheats on her?
Yeah.
He did tell you that?
Yeah.
And that him and the husband had sex was a prostitute at a job about a week and a half ago.
And I said, well, then he probably doesn't really care about her.
And he was like, no, he cares about her.
That's all that was said about that.
Derek had admitted to police that he had affairs, but no one knew that he was having threesomes
with prostitutes and his employees.
Maybe Kim had known about what Lance and Derek had done.
Maybe she was upset about it when he showed up to their house.
What the police did know from the evidence was that LJ showed up unannounced after a
bender and demanded his son's things.
We can assume that Kim was frightened
and threatened to call Derek,
which resulted in Lance attacking her.
We don't know how or why, but he did.
The fight escalated and Lance tied Kim
to her bedside table with zip ties.
As he ran around the house,
Kim managed to get out her revolver and shoot five
times. Then she pulled free and tried to escape out the window. That's when Lance entered the
room again and killed her. In the beginning, I made a stupid comment. I was like, was there any
motive for you doing this? You know, I was trying to get a reason why you would kill somebody, you know?
And he was like, no, there was no motive at all.
It was just the wrong person in the wrong place,
at the wrong time.
And they got in the way of me getting my stuff
for my son and I'll always regret it.
I was getting everything I could out of him
because I'm not gonna sit there and let somebody get murdered and
Even though I thought he was a good person
I'm not gonna just sit there and let somebody get murdered
Did he say he purposely did not take something?
Yeah, he said he purposely didn't take anything so it wouldn't look like it was him there
You know like if he would have taken anything from his room He said that, you know, they were going to look at it like it was the boss that killed
her or something, you know, like
Lance hung around the Dorsey's house for hours after he murdered Kim
He left and came back
He watched that porn movie and he raped Kim
Then he tried to wash the remote controls of his DNA
He didn't think things through exactly. I mean he was drunk and high when he did this. In fact, he was out of his mind.
I think earlier I stopped you when you were trying to say that he was concerned about
his DNA being there because he had cut.
He had punched holes in the wall like two days previous at my place because Luther Hines kicked the door
to my house because that's a whole other story but he's anyways that's why he punched holes in the
wall. And then cuts on his head? Yes. Okay. So he thought the DNA from those cuts when he punched
the lady's face I guess was cut open he
thought that they were gonna piece it together and that's how they were gonna
catch him. Lance's DNA was eventually found all over the house. He drank from
bottles. He left cigarette butts on the carpet. He didn't really try to clean up
very much. Does LJ smoke? Yes. What does he smoke?
When I met him, he smoked Marlboro Reds.
Now he smokes Marlboro Special Blind 72s.
Do you smoke?
I smoke Marlboro Ultralights,
and he pretty much, since he hasn't had money,
he's been smoking my Marlboro Ultralights too.
So as long as I have his three brands,
he would be around.
Okay.
Right after they spoke with Brian
Lance was picked up
the police expected him to be silent, but
He talked he started yapping. I guess he doesn't know the golden rule. We keep repeating here
Don't talk to cops
When's the last time you were over at Derek's house?
cops. money from get a phone and stuff like that but he wasn't home. Okay who was there? I thought him was there, Trump was outside but nobody answered the door. So did you go inside there on the
butcher's shelf and? No, the key wasn't even there. Where's the key supposed to be? It's supposed to
be up under the dog right there. Where's the dog? Where? There's a little dog, like a fake dog by
the door. So they hide the key there? Yeah. Okay and dog, like a fake dog by the door.
So they hid the key there?
Yeah.
And you looked there and see if it was there?
Yeah, and it wasn't there.
Lance admitted to the police that he knew where Kim and Derek kept their extra front door key, under the dog statue.
Now if you recall, that particular statue was kicked over during the murder.
It was all starting to come together.
Do you remember what day it was that you went over there and did that?
Yeah, it was Georgia, Florida.
Georgia, Florida.
So it was Georgia, Florida right before the game.
Okay.
So on that Saturday?
Yeah, on that Saturday right before the game.
Okay.
So you went over there and you said you were going over to see Derek?
No.
To see the boss for a while to try to get some work out.
Trying to get some work which is usually how it goes.
Like, okay, I can use you for a day this week, here's some cash.
Okay, I get you.
And that's how we usually do it.
What time did you go over there that day?
It was right before the game was turned around at 1 or 2.
1 or 2?
Yeah. Alright, and that's Saturday? That's Saturday. That's before the Georgia weekend. Did you watch the game was put on around one or two. One or two. Okay, now. All right.
And that was Saturday.
That's right.
For the Georgia weekend.
Did you watch the game?
Yeah, I watched the game.
Where did you watch the game?
I watched the game at Brian's mom's house.
Okay.
All right.
What is Lance's strategy here?
Is he trying to admit he went over there
to account for his DNA
and then trying to set up an alibi
by watching the game at Brian's. This is seriously an
unintelligent man. Oh, yeah, and what and her little car? What kind of car she had a little blue SUV
My lord
the lies
Melissa's car is the one he stole just in case you forgot. Oh, hey Lance
What are you doing?
Well, only part of the story those ability, the part about how you got over to
Daris House on Saturday. Okay. With Melissa Trupp? Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. How did they get over there? Well, I know you had Melissa Trupp.
But Melissa wasn't in that truck. Well, Jay, we're avoiding the big question here.
I've been asking the question since I got here.
Yeah, I know you have been.
Okay.
Well, let's go ahead and let's get to this next step here, okay?
Yeah, all right.
I know you went inside the house last Saturday.
Our two centuries in Florida and Georgia.
Yeah. Okay. All right. And Florida, Georgia. In Florida, Georgia. Okay, all right.
And you're good friends with Derek, right?
Very good.
Okay, very good.
And I know you're talking to people, okay?
All right.
You gotta remember, I've talked to a lot of people, okay?
I've spent whole freaking day today talking to people.
Okay?
All right.
And people talk, okay?
And people tell us things okay all right
and
i don't think you went inside the house okay and then inside the house well yeah okay
when we talk to people we talk to addict Lance that his phone is a tracking device,
and it follows him wherever he goes, leaving a digital footprint.
It's amazing that people on Earth in 2024 still aren't aware of that,
must explain our current state of political affairs.
They also had to explain to this drain on society
that there was evidence at the scene
like security camera footage
and that the evidence didn't really look all that good
for him.
Everybody has a side of the story.
We have to afford you an opportunity
for you to tell us your side of the story.
Okay, that's what we have to do. What story I'm gonna I don't we'll get there. It's not costing nothing to listen to me talk, right?
You follow me? I guess okay
When I say you're not a monster, I know this because you talk to somebody and told them what happened
Okay of this because you talked to somebody and told them what happened. Okay? We've spoken
to him and he's already told us what you said." And with that, Lance is pretty much done.
He stopped talking. But the detective still swabbed his cheeks to confirm the DNA and
arrested him for Kim's murder. Thank you all for coming out on a busy news day. Sunday, October 28, 2012, about 832, 3600 Block Eastbury Drive, 38 year old Kim Marie
Dorsey was found dead by her fire rescue husband.
We actually received information after that.
Some of that information that we received led us to a person who we had some knowledge of, a person who had in the
past lived with the victim and her husband, that person was 31 year old Lance Eugene Kirkpatrick.
With that information we actually found over the next days after we got
that subject who was an associate of Kershaw Patrick's who
cooperated with investigators in this case. The cooperation he provided was substantial
and really broke our case and led us to make the arrest of Kirk Patrick for the murder of
Ken Dorsey. Derek was beside himself when he found out that Lance was the one that killed his wife.
I howled like some wounded animal caught in a trap
because of betrayal.
He held up photographs of Kim to the camera
and let the tears roll.
This is the person you took away from me.
Her family and everyone else.
Kim taught me so much.
I just wish I could have been a better person for her.
It took two years for Lance's family to get to trial.
He made it a living hell for Kim and her family members, dragging out the proceedings with
lies and various tactics in order to attempt to save himself from prison.
In the end, it didn't work. He faced a courtroom for the rape and murder
of Kim Dorsey and he was sentenced to three life terms for his heinous, disgusting crime.
Derek spoke directly at Lance during the sentencing. The man he had once considered a buddy,
so close that they even had sex with the same prostitute at the same time was now
going to jail for murdering his wife.
And yes, I did say prostitute, not sex worker.
Because no matter what your social media told you, fucking ain't work.
For two and a half years I've stood by and watched the defendant prolong the proceedings
with lies, besorching Kim's name, and even snitching on every person he knows in order to save his own skin.
Good luck with that reputation in prison, Aljane.
Derrick attended grief counseling after Kim's death and began working with a psychologist who would later become his new wife.
The two started a mental health practice together.
case, the prosecutors, the detectives, he said that they were all amazing.
Everyone in this tragic story was a different person than they presented to the world.
There's a lot of that going around in 2024, especially after an election, I might add.
Derek was a firefighter and a business owner who had a beautiful house and a beautiful wife just like David Byrne, yet behind her back he was cheating on her with many women and even having sex
with prostitutes with his seedy employees. Kim seemed like a happy, successful businesswoman,
but inside she was crumbling and fighting a terrible depression.
Brian looked like a sketchy Floridian drug dealer and a roofer, but he was the
hero of this story. He rescued men who were down and out, and when one of them
confessed to a murder, he immediately turned him in. He actually had a conscience.
Sometimes looks can be deceiving.
And Lance?
Well, Lance was a troubled, sad man
who may have been grateful for the help
that the Dorseys gave him,
but he committed a brutal, disgusting act towards Kim
and will never truly understand why.
Monsters are real, and could be anyone.
Heroes are real too.
And they don't always come looking like you'd expect. The That That does it for yet another one.
Thank you so much for joining us once again.
Just to let you know, there may be a few hurdles with our schedule in the coming weeks.
Just life stuff, things that kind of take my time away that cannot be helped unfortunately.
And I must be present for it. So apologies in advance if we don't put out a show here and there in the coming weeks.
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center for your retail business. It brings together in-store and online operations across
1,000 locations. Imagine being able to guarantee that shopping is always convenient. Endless
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want and staff have the tools to close the sale every time. In fact, it's proven.
Based on a report from EY, businesses on Shopify POS see real results like 22%
better total cost of ownership and benefits equivalent to an 8.9%
uplift in sales on average relative to
the market set surveyed.
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