Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - Existential Crisis ❤️

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I was with both my parents at Lush, like years ago. And my parents were like, we're going to leave to go get something else. And I was like, okay, love you. And he was like, love you. And this employee turned to me and was like, at least he said love you. And I was like, yeah, ha ha. And then I just like stood in the line. And then she goes, you know, we have some couples massage bars.
Starting point is 00:00:20 And I said, that's my dad. And she went, oh, my God. And then she left the store through the front door and didn't come back. And did she? She was on the shit. Did she think that your mom was your daughter? I don't know. Olivia Talks. It's the big bad podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Wow, it's so big and bad at you. I'm the Sid one. I'm the Olivia one. And today we have no other one. Today we have no one. No other ones. No other ones. Today we're just kind of chilling.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And we have a Love Island update for you. Yeah, we're going to talk about like little silly fun late 20s things. like your Saturn's return and taking personality tests to try to ground yourself in some form of reality. Yeah, because like, why not? Why not? Hulk Hogan died this morning. That's crazy. Yes, the day we're filming this, Hulk Hogan died this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah, and Ozzy Osbourne just died, which sucks ass. Yes. But Trisha Pettus has a new baby, and everyone thinks it's one of the two. Right. Isn't it that every time she has a baby, it's like right after somebody dies? Yeah, yeah. And so she has... And it's always a baby with an insane name.
Starting point is 00:01:44 This one's Aquaman Moses. Right. Yeah. So the last one was Barbie, Malibu Barbie, right? That one is the Pope question one? Yeah, I think Malibari is the Pope. Wait, is that possible? Didn't the Pope just die?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah, but Malibari is pushing him out fast? She is. Yeah, she's getting him out. Can we look up which babies of Tricia Padas are reincarnated? Yeah, there's three. Who are they? Also, like, this is so, the idea that we're like, oh, and then this one must be Oz. Yeah, well, it is.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Well, it is. So think about that. Okay. Oh, she is three. What's the other one named, though? Because there's Malibu Barbie. Yeah. Oh, Elvis.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Right. Elvis. So it's Elvis, Malibu Barbie, and Aquaman. Yeah. Elvis is who reincarnated? I don't know who Elvis is, but I do know Aquaman is. Ozzy. Ozzie and Malibu Barbie is the Pope.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Okay. Queen Elizabeth. Oh, Queen Elizabeth. Malibu Barbie is Queen Elizabeth. Wow. Trisha Payton. Look at us mixing up Queen Elizabeth and the Pope. Oh, is that what it was?
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah. For some reason, I really thought it was the Pope, but also that would have been too recent, huh? Well, I mean... Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, you know, she has Queen Elizabeth in her household. She has Ozzy Osbourne. Oh, and the other one was the Pope? Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Elvis is the Pope. Elvis is the Pope. I've actually always said that. Elvis is a fun household. Elvis is my Pope. Elvis is my Pope. I think that the household of reincarnated Queen Elizabeth, the Pope, and Ozzy Osbourne. That's kind of a fun reality show.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's kind of everything. Wait, here's my question. Yeah. Who would be your pope if you could pick one? If I could pick a pope? Yeah. Pedro Pascal. I know that's basic, but like if I could, I would just put him as anything high up there.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Right. Just so I could like look at him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I got that for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he'd be a good pope, I feel like. Yeah, I mean, he would be an objectively good pope. Like, if it's not a joke answer, that's my answer, where it's like, yeah, he'd be a good guy.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He'd probably reform the church a lot. and make a lot of things better. But, yeah, is a bit. No, you don't have to do a bit. Okay. Great. Who would be your pope? I mean, Elvis is my pope.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I mean, Elvis is my pope. Yeah, Elvis is my pope. I kind of feel like a good pope could be like, like Elmo? Yeah. Yeah, Elmo's a good pope. Elmo's a good pope as long as his Twitter doesn't get hacked again. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Elmo got hacked and it became super anti-Simon. That's, right? Yeah. And then Elmo had to be like, Elmo's so sorry about that. So, wait, he tweeted Elmo so sorry? I think, like, Sesame Street was like, I think Elmo tweeted like, I don't know. Well, I'm actually not going to say what he did. He said Elmo so sorry, Elmo like Jews.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Was briefly. Elmo so sorry. We strongly condemn. Elmo strongly condemns the abhorrent content. And it was anti-Semitic. And what was it? What did he say? I think it's been scrubbed from the internet.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Right. They're not going to tell us. You know when you have a crush on somebody and they don't like you? Yeah. That's what it feels like. Ugh. I'm like, Elmo, I really wanted you to be my Pope and you're like, you're a Jew. Like, this sucks.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Oh, man. I hate that. Ugh. Okay, I feel really disappointed. First, first tomb gets disappointed me now. By being stuffing. By having stuffing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Well, great. I have to reckon with that. Yeah, we can do some post-EP reckoning. So annoying. Elmo. It definitely wasn't him. It definitely wasn't. I don't think it was him because he's not real.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Right. Elmo is my Pope. I'll get that on a shirt. Lovela, lovela. Don't keep looking up Elmo anti-Semitic. Don't keep Googling that. Why are you Google imaging it? Yeah, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:37 There's a photo of him being anti-Semitic. I think that picture he has his middle finger up a little bit. bit. Like that I think counts. Okay, wait. He doesn't have a middle finger. Well, he has four fingers and therefore none of them are the middle. Yeah, he'd have to hold up nothing. If this would be the middle finger or the middle two.
Starting point is 00:05:53 But in that last picture, it is like, he is like holding up what's appears. Yeah, that's, that appears to be a middle finger. Like, right? Maybe this guy is not who we thought he was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:06:11 My whole body is shutting down. This guy's not who he thought he was. This sucks. Okay. Oh, and that's, yeah, that's no. That's just, that's, this is not who he thought he was. Yeah, we don't even love it. Oh, Elmo.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Okay, so then I guess the Pope will be my dad or something. Oh, okay. I thought you meant the Pope will be your dad instead of like your dad will be the Pope. Right. Okay. So the real Pope will be your real dad. My Pope that I'm choosing will be my dad. Oh, can I have my Pope be my dad?
Starting point is 00:06:39 No, you already picked Pedro Pascal. Okay, that's fine. I'm fine with it. And I only get to go back because the one I chose was accidentally anti-Semitic. That's true. And Pedro Pascal is, there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay, great. Guys, we're doing a Love Island update. Music! Cut the music! Cut the music! A gaming for love! Wow. Previously.
Starting point is 00:07:01 On Love Island. Okay, so the last time we saw our, I was about to call them, villagers. We saw our villagers. The last time we do a heart rate challenge. Or Islanders, they did a heart rate challenge, which is just an excuse to give each other lap dances. Yeah, and sit on each other's faces. And that is real. That is real.
Starting point is 00:07:19 So now they're going to be doing another real challenge. So all the Islanders are obviously hanging out in the villa, waking up. Some of them are on the daybed. Some of them are making toast. We hear ding. And the 405 goes, I got a text. All the other Islanders are like, ooh, like goes around them. And the text says, Islanders.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It is now time for, and then the phone starts glitching. The phone starts breaking. Black sludge pours out of the phone. Young Sheldon's face comes out of the screen. Like the phone is giving birth to his face. Yeah, the screen starts cracking, which means that Young Sheldon's face is also affected by this. Yeah, he's like out of the birth canal of the phone. He's cut up.
Starting point is 00:08:05 And he's breach. So then Mark L. Walbury has to run in and deliver. Deliver young Sheldon from the phone. The phone doesn't make it. No. This is devastating. Devastating. Our fourth death of the island is the four of Ives' phone.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It's a third or four. Well, if we count Glenn close, it's the fourth. Right. She just walked into the ocean. Yeah, she might still be alive, but we don't know. Okay, so they say, they say, Islanders, it is now time for the lie detector. challenge. Everyone goes, oh, she, oh no, this is crazy. I hope I don't lie and don't know it. I hope I don't lie. I'm never told a lie. Yeah, 100%. And so this test, obviously, is everyone gets in their couples and one by one, they all get to ask each other a question while the other person is strapped up to a lie detector. This is late in the season, guys. These are five couples. We are going to narrow it down to the final four soon. So the stakes are incredible.
Starting point is 00:09:09 high. Yeah. There's so much that could go wrong. So first up is California Pizza Kitchen and the 405 freeway. Oh, wow. California Pizza Kitchen is strapped up to the lie detector test. And the 405 gets to ask a question. What is the 405? The 405 asks, are you actually okay with me being a mom? And to recap, the 405 is a mother of a child. A four-year-old girl? We've decided she had OJ Simpson's child. Yes. And CBK obviously says, mamacita.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And then she says, no, I'm a mom. And then he says, not knowing they've already had this exact. No, he doesn't remember. He doesn't remember. Because he was high. They've had this exact conversation. Right. He goes, a mom of what, a dog?
Starting point is 00:10:04 And she goes, No, I have a four-year-old daughter. And then he says, how old is he or she? Which it kind of sucks because they just had this conversation, like literally yesterday. But then eventually he does say like, oh, no, that doesn't bother me. And it's true. True. That's a relief.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Good job. That's a relief. And then they switch places. So now the 405 is strapped up. California Pizza Kitchen looks at the 405 and says, did OJ do it? And the 405 says, no. The machine breaks. They can't tell if it's a lie or a truth.
Starting point is 00:10:44 They don't know. The machine breaks. They have to get a new lie detector test machine. It takes four to five business days. Four to five business days later, we see Tinkywinky and the furniture fire are up at the lie detector. The burning pile of furniture is strapped into the lie detector. Also burning it, sparking it. Not great.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Nope. Kahnkey Winky asks, uh-oh. The subtitle says, if you had to do dirty, freaky freak sex with anyone else in the villa, who would it be? The burning pile of furniture says,
Starting point is 00:11:18 Oh, well, actually, I've always wanted to have sex with a lot of water. Oh, yeah, because... I've always wanted to have sex. That's so freaky, it kills me. Ding, ding, ding! True! That's unsettling, but honest.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And isn't that what the lie detector is about? That's what it's all about. Oh, that's amazing. So next, the furniture, the burning pile of furniture, gets to ask you tinky-winky a question. Tinku-winky is strapped up. The burning pile of furniture says, If we date outside the villa, will you let me into the tubby vest to fight the sun? Chinky Winky says, uh-oh, which translates to yes.
Starting point is 00:12:03 True. Wow. They're like, they're on fire. They're like, they're like a good couple kind of. Like, I feel like they're really compatible. Yeah, they are. They're like both. I didn't expect it with them. No, I didn't hear. They're both firecrackers. Yeah. Next we have the giving tree and the horse. And the real horse. Um, so the horse is strapped up first and the giving tree gets to ask a question. What is the giving tree ask? Um, the giving tree asks, um, would you please take my skin? Would you please take my bark? Please. take my apples. The horse says, which is true. Now, here's the thing. I wouldn't qualify that as a question. Oh, me neither. I would not qualify that as a question. So I don't know how that work. No, I don't think the Giving Tree plays by any of the rules of this show at all. Like I think I, based purely on the fact that it's not allowed to be here. Right. Like it technically is, the Giving Tree and the horse aren't even, they weren't even invited into the island. They just kind of started being there. So I don't know. So the horse asks? Yeah, so the horse asks, and the Giving Tree says, yes. Lie! Eh! What could that mean? What could that mean? Right. What could that mean? And what does that
Starting point is 00:13:17 mean? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. No idea. Their relationship is beyond fucking me. It's beyond me. Next, we have Tombgis and the Wheel of Fortune. Okay, Tombgis is strapped up. So the Wheel of Fortune asks, Are you still into the rainbow fish? Whoa, whoa, okay. And Tumgis says, oh, look, I want to be honest. I am still into the rainbow fish, but I'm really trying to move on and do what's best for it. And I really quite do fancy you. True.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Ding, ding, ding. Wow, that's crazy because that's a vulnerable question to answer. And it's a really honest answer. It is a really honest answer. And, you know, some people might not like that answer, but at least it's honest. Timgis asks, you seem like, A girl who has some nice taste. Are you going to bankrupt me?
Starting point is 00:14:05 And the Wheel of Fortune says, ah, no. Lie. Oh. Lie. Lie. Oh, no. Lie. Lie.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Okay. Well, the Wheel of Fortune would lie, right? Of course. All right. And finally, we've got a lot of water. And the rainbow fish. A lot of water asks the rainbow fish. Hey, do you see?
Starting point is 00:14:30 a life outside of the villa with me? The rainbow fish says, Yes. Um, and that is... I can't live without you. See, that was good. Bing, true. Rainbow fish asks a lot of water.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Um, you have other fish. Do you have other fish? Wow. Um, like in your life. In the water, yeah, in your life. Yeah. And the water says, No, you're the only fish.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Lie. Lie. Lie. You have to remember there are always other fish. Fish in the sea. Oh my God. Wait, this is really bad news though for rainbow fish. Awful news.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Holy shit. Inside one of our islanders, we have a bunch of fish. There's a bunch of other small swimming islanders inside of one of our big islanders. Yeah. Now that's pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. That's something we haven't considered before. And that's something that you'll never get from real love island.
Starting point is 00:15:26 No, 100%. You'll never have a real love islanders filled with others. stuck inside my tummy. Exactly. A hundred percent. So, okay, there's a huge, like, fallout after this. Tell me about it. Why detector tests? Because, well, there's some couples that are doing okay, right? Kanky-winky and the fire are absolutely fine. Nothing bad. Oh, they're rimming in the bathroom. They're literally rimming themselves and each other in the bathroom. But the giving tree and the horse, they are arguing. And we don't know what it's about at all. No, I can't even understand. We couldn't guess. If you put a gun to my head, I couldn't guess what it's about because one of them
Starting point is 00:15:57 is just saying, take my branches, take my bark. And then, we don't know. And they're just, the other one's just going, but you can tell they're, like, deeply upset with each other and they're arguing about something specific. I hate when that happened. Yeah. Rainbow fish is a little confused about the other fish, I think. But, you know, it's hard because it's like rainbow fish needs a lot of water. So it's like, can rainbow fish be cool with the concept of, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah. And also, I think there's something to say for, like, you know, you don't want to really physically need your partner. Oh, yeah. Like, you want to want them. Yeah. But like to physically need them to breathe, that's hard. It is codependent.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It is codependent. And I think the rainbow fish is codependent. And I think that's what we're learning. But it seems like, yeah, it seems like almost like, is the water like avoidant? I don't know. I don't know. But what I do know is he has a ton of other fish inside of him. So next time on Love Island, we're going to boot a couple.
Starting point is 00:16:53 A couple is getting the fucking boots. They're getting booted. They're getting fucking. booted. So join our Patreon to let us know which couple is getting fucking booted. The options are CPK and the 405, k-tinky and the burning pile of furniture, the giving tree and horse, Tungis and the Wheel of Fortune, and a lot of water and rainbow fish. So tell us which couple is your least favorite and why they should exit the villa. And the couples that don't exit the villa, the final four will go on to our final kind of experiences.
Starting point is 00:17:28 which include having the fake baby dolls that they always do on Love Island. Family Day. So think about whose families you want to meet. And then also in Love Island, they always have them do these weird vows in like essentially what feels like a wedding ceremony. Yes. It is not. And that's weird. That'll be weird.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Yep. So figure out what four couples you want to do that and we will keep it freaking rolling. And that was Love Island fantasy bracket. Music. Cut the music. Cut the music. I came out for love! I love the gun sound. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah, it's perfect because it's a gun. It's perfect because it's a gun if you think about it. I don't know about you, but my algorithm is flooded with, like, bad fake health trends and misinformation. What kind of stuff are you getting? Like, I'm getting a lot of, like, if you have a little tiny spot on your skin, that means you're filled to the brim with parasites, and you need to do a heavy metal detox and a parasite cleanse for 90 days straight while not eating any food. You know what?
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Starting point is 00:21:05 Yeah, I literally am so afraid of guns. I've shot a gun once. And it was the scariest thing in the car. Where did you shoot a gun at like a gun range? I did. Who did you go with? Well, I was going through some boy problems. And at a certain point, my dad, when I was like 21, was like, hey, why don't I,
Starting point is 00:21:23 why don't we just go to a gun range and you shoot a gun? My family is very anti-guns. But my dad's also like from New Jersey and we kickbox together. And I think he just thought like this is a good aggressive way to get some anger out. Did you put the person's face on the? I should have. I should have. But I don't think that was allowed there.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But what did happen is everyone kept thinking we were dating. That happens to you a lot. It happens to me a lot. And I think probably because they would think like a liberal father and daughter probably wouldn't go to the gun range. together and I had like blue hair. So, but yeah, I shot the gun and let me tell you something. There was not a single moment when I was in that gun range where I didn't think one of two things was going to happen, one which is much more likely than the other.
Starting point is 00:22:09 The thing I thought was going to happen that was less likely, but I really thought it was going to happen is that while I was shooting the gun, the gun was going to somehow turn all the way around and shoot me. The other thing is I thought, oh, someone's going to kill me here because someone's Like, they can't mental health check everyone here. And that one is more likely. But neither of those things happen. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Guns making somersaults pretty likely. Yeah, yeah. Like, just the idea that it would kick back and then it would somehow go like that. Yeah. It has happened. Yeah. And so, but it really did. I would say, yeah, what was nice about it is it absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So you're pro gun. It made me even more afraid of guns. Okay. It made me like, like, I was always, like, deeply terrified of guns. They're scary. And then handling a gun made me go like, oh, I was so much less scared of guns than I need to be. They're fucking scary. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Most of my nightmares are about guns. Oh, really? Yeah. Most of my honor about my exes. That's scarier than guns. Scary old than guns. Yeah. Let's go back.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. So people always think that you and your dad are dating. Yeah. And when we're, yeah, when we're hanging out alone together. Does that still happen? Yeah. I mean, I don't. know because now we're really proactive about stating to strangers that we are father and daughter
Starting point is 00:23:28 because it's happened so many times that now like anytime we go to a restaurant, anytime we go into public where we're talking to one other person, we pretty much organically force it into one of the first things we say to them is just like kind of letting them know that we're father and daughter. I'll just be like, oh, dad, would you look at this? Or he'll be like, ah, the daughter orders first. Like, he'll say stuff like that. Like, because people, will go for it otherwise, and it's really upsetting. What do they say? Like, would your beautiful young girlfriend like to order first?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Yeah, I mean, the things people have said in the past are like one time we were, I was with both my parents at Lush, like years ago. And my parents were like, we're going to leave to go get something else. And I was like, okay, love you. And he was like, love you. And this employee turned to me and was like, at least he said love you. And I was like, yeah, ha ha. And then I just like stood in the line.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And then she goes, you know, we have some. couple's massage bars. And I said, that's my dad. And she went, oh, my God. And then she left the store through the front door and didn't come back. And did she? She was on the shift. Did she think that your mom was your daughter? I don't know. I don't know. She's like, oh, well, at least he said love you. And then he's taking your daughter. Your daughter, who is 34 years older than your daughter. What? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. And I'm upset by it all. time it happens. Do you think it's because your dad has too much Riz? Maybe. We got to get my dad on here. See if you have you as too much Riz. Yeah. I mean, my dad's really fun. Like my dad, here's what,
Starting point is 00:25:05 here's maybe what it is too besides the fact that I never wear pants. I only wear many skirts. And I only wear outfits like the outfits I'm wearing right now. I can't wear any other outfit. I couldn't tell you why. This is what I wear. And my dad, I think if you didn't know him, he's kind of like a like a he also only wears mini skirts he only wears mini skirts and thigh high boots so people are like people are like okay so they're matching um i think you could i don't know i don't know maybe you just i don't know what it is i don't know we got to bring him on an interview i mean you know my take which is that you dress like you're on a date yeah and that people think you're on a date yeah and he's like a confident loud like fun guy so maybe people think like oh maybe he's also bad i don't know
Starting point is 00:25:51 I don't know because he wouldn't be good in dating me. Right, right. Okay. Speaking of not good, there's an update in the Siwa universe. In the Jojo Siwa universe. Hold on. I need to put some Bayleys in this first. Let's just like get it out there so that we can just go for it and talk about it.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Jojo Sewa. Yeah, I'm not okay with this. Jojo Siwa has named her new... I just defended her. Jojo Siwa has named her new boyfriend's balls. It's in the news. It's in the news, guys. You're named Jimmy and Timmy.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Like the Power Hour. What? Jimmy Timmy Power Hour from Nickelodeon. Oh, I don't even- When they would mash up fairly odd parents in Jimmy Neutron. Yes, I do remember that. It's his testicles? Jojo-Skla has Betty Davis eyes for Cruz testicles.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Names them Jimmy and Timmy. Who wrote this headline? Joey Noelphi. You know, Joey, you're doing the best you can. What is happening? Um. Dojo Siwa has Betty Davis eyes for new boyfriend's testicles? Okay, so she had, because this is a big thing too, is she previously expressed interest in naming her future children, Freddie, Teddy, and Eddie.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And then later on, more recently, she was like, I would never do that, which is good that she didn't then have kids and do it because you can't unname a kid. Right. But, uh... She calls my balls, Jimmy and Timmy. So she must like Jimmy and Timmy. She must love the rhyming lingo. What on earth is happening? What on earth is happening?
Starting point is 00:27:30 And then it's just a picture of them with tennis rackets? What is happening? It's like so crazy how that is like happening at the same time as like late night shows are being canceled for criticizing the president. Like 20 seconds ago, it was like we're not dating. just friends. Now it's like, I'm naming his testicles. I name just, yeah. Wait, hold on. They have a very
Starting point is 00:27:55 genuine connection. We're not faking a thing. I don't think you are. It's so weird. I don't think so. I think that you're doing it a lot in front of me. Yeah, I don't really want to know about your testicles being named, but I guess I am spreading the information. If you were to name my pussy, what would you name it? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. Okay, well, that means that we don't have a strong of a connection as them, but that's okay. We don't have to. I don't want to do that. What a terrible thing you just asked. Do people name their vagina? I fucking hope not. I don't want that. And hey, if you're listening to this, none of you can name my pussy, okay? None of you are allowed to name my pussy. If you pretend to or try to, if you're just asking for it. The name doesn't stick, okay? Everyone's literally going to just give their name. Okay, if you join the Patreon,
Starting point is 00:28:47 If you join the Patreon, we do have a Discord and you can name. We're going to have a thread on our Discord. Oh, God. It's only $5. It's only $5 to name that. Cheap? Cheap, oh, wow. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Okay, well, we're going to get into some really fun kind of like... Existential. Existential personality test. Yeah, but I want to start us off with two very fun, very silly personality. tests that are not as as extential as what we're going to lead up to. Okay. Okay. So I saw this. You sent me this and I thought
Starting point is 00:29:25 well this would be a great thing to bring on the podcast and figure out who's who in each category. Right? If you can't see this, this is a picture of Mary Kate and Ashley that says how to tell us apart. And then it says a bunch of different things about them that are all like fake bad things. Which one
Starting point is 00:29:41 is Mary Kate and which one is Ashley? Does anybody know? Fuck if I know. I feel like Mary Kate's got to be the one with the with the Mary Jane's. Oh, I was going to say I feel like Mary Kay is the one with the convert. Wait, which one's the tomboy? Mary Kate or Ashley? I was not in this world.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I thought Mary Kaye, but maybe she just plays a toy in New York Minute. Yeah, but it's like, it's back and forth that says, I'm dishonest, I'm vindictive, I'm a bedshitter, I eat scabs, egocentric, unforgiving, I'm predatory, I'm manipulative, microdosing, speedballs. I killed Heath Ledger, no, I killed Heath Ledger, he he, he. So I figured we could go down like the each one and figure out who's who of each thing. Even if some of them don't fit for us, we can try to jam ourselves into these categories. And I think that's what's fun about personality tests is sort of pretending your personality is slightly different than it is so that you can jam yourself into a category. Yeah. And also it's like good to really just label yourself as something bad. Yeah, I love to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Okay. Okay, so first off, I'm dishonest. I'm vindictive. Who do you think if one of us had to be dishonest and one of us had to be vindictive, who do you think it would be? God. There's really no winning here, isn't. No, there isn't. In any of them. There's no winning in any of them.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And I only know one that's definitely, I only know for sure one of them that is absolutely who's who. Which one? Later on in the list. Oh, God. I would say I may be both. All right. I'm vindictive for sure, right? But I'm also a people pleaser.
Starting point is 00:31:17 So sometimes I'll tell a white lie to make sure people are not feeling bad. That's dishonest, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough one. I definitely eat scabs. Yeah. Yeah, I'm a bed shitter. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I definitely eat scab. Egotcentric versus unforgiving. See, once again, I think I might be both. I'm definitely unforgiving, but I talk so much. It's really, really tough. Because, see, every personality test after this will be easier. Yeah, this is a hard one. Can I tell you the one I know?
Starting point is 00:32:00 Sure. So I know for a fact that you are microdosing and I'm doing speedballs. Okay. Right? I guess so. Like 100%. Okay. I'm definitely predatory.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Okay. Yeah, I can be manipulative. I can do that. I think I'm definitely predatory considering we've had so many guests come in and I've been like, where do you live? Yes, that's true. That's true. I played a predatory confessional wall a couple episodes ago, but that wasn't necessarily me. That was just the wall I was playing. That's true. Yeah. And then there's I killed Heath Ledger. No, I killed Heath Ledger. He, he. He. I think I killed Heath Ledger. No, you killed Heath Ledger. Hee. Yeah. Well, I would say he. Yeah. I think you would. say he he. I'm kind of a he he. I would just come out with a with a murder sentence and then you would add he he. Yeah, I think so. Okay. So I guess then I'm the one with the hat? No, I don't know. I think we're both, we're half and a half of both of them and this, and this is a nightmare of a test. Okay, so we're half and half Mary Kate and Ash? Yeah, and that's what we're supposed to be. Yes. Okay, so we're each like them split down the middle. Yeah, we're split down the, and then glued to the other. It could be split like the upper, the upper,
Starting point is 00:33:11 half is glued to the other one's lower half too. Okay, great. Great. Great. It would be either way. All right, great. What's the next one? The other thing I wanted to bring up, which I think is really interesting. Okay. Do you know what this is? Uh, no, I don't. I really don't. Okay. So, back in the day, this is just... Wait a second. Yeah. Doorframe. Yeah. And, um, and what was the other thing? So we were making fun of how everyone's like, oh, I'm, you know, dear pretty, I'm bunny pretty. And then we made a joke where we were like, yeah, like if you're vulture pretty or doorframe pretty. And then we both got really upset and we were like, yeah, well, we both know who we are of each of those.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Right. Our patron, the trash raccoon. Right. Drew this and sent it. And I wanted to bring this to your attention because this is the opposite of what we thought it was going to be. It is. And isn't that kind of lovely? Like, doesn't that make you feel a little bit better?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Like, just to get into it, we both meant, I, in our biggest insecurities, I would call myself doorframe pretty, right? Because I'm like, wide and square. I would call myself vulture pretty because no explanation needed. And the fact that... I'm just very vulture, like... The fact that this was switched and I'm the vulture and you're the doorframe means that maybe the way you see yourself is not necessarily the way others see you. And isn't that beautiful?
Starting point is 00:34:42 Look at my beak. Look at my beak down below. That's a good beak. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Interesting. Yeah. Is that good? This is so fascinating. Yeah. So it's just a reminder that if you think there's something obviously wrong with your physical appearance, someone else might not see it at all and might in fact see a different thing. See a different thing wrong with your physical appearance. Good. Yeah. No, so I'm really, I really appreciated this. This really made my day.
Starting point is 00:35:09 No, I mean, it is beautiful. Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. And I like that our, um, are, our, are, our, our, our, our, our, our, we both have beaks. We both have beaks and your junk is out. Right. And what I like about it is there's nothing there. No, there's nothing there. Like a Barbie doll.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's just skin. It's just, uh, fish netted skin. Yeah. So that's what it looks like. Yeah. Okay. If the patrons are naming your junk, I want the. patrons to draw my junk.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Okay, beautiful. Which is nothing. Which is nothing. It can be anything but junk, guys. There's nothing there. It's just skin like that. Yeah. Like a Barbie doll.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But yeah, look at that beautiful beak open in the bottom. Like, if I did look like that in real life, I could fly around probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I mean, I like your outfit. I like your little maroon skirt. Yeah. Very me.
Starting point is 00:35:55 And you have like a little feathery jacket. I've got, I still have, yeah. You're hunched? I'm hunched. We both have purses and nice shoes. Yeah. I think this is great. Great.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah. Okay. So, well, thank you. Thank you for this trash raccoon. Thank you for the art. And thank you for disrupting our views of ourselves. Yeah. With your beautiful art.
Starting point is 00:36:16 So doof. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about like, maybe this isn't very funny, but that's okay. Yeah. It doesn't need to be. We were talking about an enneagram. That's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yeah. Eniogram and Indiana. Enigram. Enigram. Nagram. And just like your 29 30th year of life. Yeah. I don't know if anyone out there is feeling weird in any way, shape, or form in the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I don't know if anyone is feeling like life is difficult and scary. Yeah. Yeah. There's in your late 20s, early 30s, you go through your Saturn's return. Which may or may not be real, but how much more fun is it to pretend it is? Well, it sounds woo-woo, but when you think about it, it makes perfect sense that you get to a place where you're like, oh, I'm not in my early 20s anymore. 100%. I'm not like, I'm not 30 yet.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I'm not a girl, not yet a woman. Yeah, and I'm not like allowed to like make a like a crazy amount of mistakes and it be cute. And now it's more just like, oh, this is the start of my like whole adult life. Yeah. I guess what do I want to do? What do I do with that? Yep. Which has been kind of the place we've been in.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And a lot of our friends, obviously, because, like, we're all kind of this age. Yeah. And I think that it was something we kind of wanted to talk about because it feels so weird and loves that. It feels very weird. And I also think it's more commonly in the zeitgeist now because of Ariana Grande's track on that album where the woman goes, when we all born, Saturn is in a certain place. And Saturn comes back and then you wake up, wake up, wake up, you know that one? It is like, yeah, typically occurring between the ages of 27 and 30. Dude, that's exactly what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:38:08 It signifies a time of significant life changes, challenges, and personal growth as you transition into adulthood, which is so funny because it's like, yeah, obviously you're already an adult. But you're now being like, oh, I'm more responsible for things. Also, yeah, I would say a young adult and an adult are different. Like, I would say, like, they are different life stages completely. Yeah, and you move between them very quickly. Yeah, yeah. There is such a... It's like 18 to...
Starting point is 00:38:32 I think the end of every decade is crazy. I mean, maybe it's not once you're 39 and you're fine. Everything's fine, hopefully. But like, even when you're 18 to 20, like, that's a huge jump. Yeah. 17 to 20 is like crazy. Yeah. And there is such a specific feeling of being the youngest person in the room and then not
Starting point is 00:38:51 being the youngest person in the room, especially professionally, when you're like, oh, I'm this like, I'm like a young person. and I'm... Everyone's telling me how impressive I am. Yeah, because I'm young. Yeah. And then you get to be like... Just a person.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Just a normal person. And then it's like, you're just a person. That's all good. It is an interesting thing, especially when you kind of form some of your identity around being young, which I think a lot of us do because you're young for so long. Oh, yeah. Like when you think about it, like you're young kind of your whole life until a certain point. And then you're like, oh, I guess I'm just kind of a person.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. And of course, you're still young in the grand scheme of. of things. Yeah, according to like the planet. Sure. You're much younger. But you feel like, oh, I'm actually like starting like real adulthood now. Like I have friends who are married. I have friends who are, you know, like really like I have friends who, to me, I was like, oh my God, I have friends who are already done with graduate school. Yeah. That's crazy. My little brother is done with graduate school. Yeah. So, okay, here's, here's what's, in order to master your Saturn's return according to the internet,
Starting point is 00:39:58 you need to listen when life gives you lessons and ditch the victim mentality. Here's a segment called ditch the victim. No, I'm kidding. What do you think, like, what do you think your lessons from your Saturn return have been thus far? I feel like, you know, there are a couple things that I have been feeling in this stage of my life. Yeah. One of them being I don't value career success as much as I used to. I think when you're younger, and I feel this way, like, and if this is not something that is relatable to you, that's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I feel like personally as a woman who was born in the mid to late 90s, my parents were very much so trying to write a lot of wrongs from maybe. be their parents or like, you know, people before them. So it was very much like, you're a girl. You can do anything. You can do anything a boy can do. You can do anything you set your mind to. And everything was very career oriented. It was like, you can be a CEO. You can be a girl boss. It was very much the messaging when I was younger. And it felt like, oh, the only focus is on career. And while it's good to get people to be ambitious, it made me feel like there's not a lot of balance in what my goals are. And so I never really had any personal goals. It was only career goals.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. Then I got a little bit older and I was like, well, that's not entirely fulfilling because nothing is. Like you can't just focus on. You can't have all your eggs in one basket. No, you can't just focus on one point part of life and then be like, oh, well. Fulfilled across the board. Yeah, if I achieve that, then I'm completely fulfilled. You never are.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So it's like, I think as I've gotten older, and I know I recognize that I'm saying, this is still a person who's very young in the grand safety. But you're older than some people? Yeah. You're definitely older than some people watching us. I guess I'm older than I used to be. Whoa. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Holy shit. And as I get older than I used to be, I realize like, oh, yes, I would like to have actually other goals for my life. Like, taking up pottery was definitely like a part of that of like, oh, I want to do something that is just for me that is not about any monetary gain, that is not about like proving to anyone, like, look at me. I did this thing. Like, it's just very much like, I want to make a vagina menorah. And you did. And I did. You would accomplish that goal. And that's just what I did. And what did you name it? A labia menorah. And it just makes sense. But like, but, but the thing is it's like,
Starting point is 00:42:42 yeah, having those things of like now I'm like, I really want to go. I want to travel more. I want to. I want to, you know, I want to be financially comfortable, but I want to be comfortable so that I can do things that I've wanted to do. I want to like, you know, you start, to me at least, I've started being like, I have more goals that are more inward than outward. Instead of being like, you know, I can post a deadline article being like, see, bitches, I'm doing well. That's not as much of a goal anymore. No, well, because as you, when you're young, you do think that's going to make you happy. And then any success you get, you realize like, oh, this makes me anxious and it makes my life more complicated. Not to say that, therefore, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:43:28 But it doesn't do, there's such a difference in every category of life of like the thing you think it's going to be and the thing it actually is. Totally. And I think you just learn that more and more. Yeah. And it's also like so based on, you know, how you're feeling inside. somebody else telling you you did great is not really going to make you feel great. I mean, maybe for a split second it will. Somebody else telling you like, you're great, you're perfect, you're funny, you're beautiful, you're this, whatever. It'll make you feel good for like a split second. But at the
Starting point is 00:44:00 end of the day, you do kind of just have to be like, well, what makes me happy long term? And usually those things are like cuddling my dog, you know, like watching a silly movie with friends, doing like those kind of things are yeah what were you going to say what are your spark notes okay well here's what i'd like to implement first um i am very very deep in in the trenches of my saturn's return i uh so i would like you to have the sound effects button ready and if anything i say goes too far or is too hopeless or depressing i need you to press a silly sound effect to get me to not do that i probably won't but just on the off chance okay Like if we're going to go if we're going to give the spark notes but like I don't know I think that
Starting point is 00:44:48 I felt I felt like a false sense of security like in save the cat when there's a false midpoint high and then everything goes to shit like I felt a false sense of like I know what life is actually about I've gotten over my like I need to achieve constantly thing and I have a balanced life that I have a lot of things that I really like that make my life really meaningful and valuable, you know, regardless of if one thing goes away. Then when I turned 27 and throughout the year of being 27, all those things went away. So then I was like, wait, what? And I am currently in a place where I don't actually know anything. Like, and I'm kind of accepting that. I was that kid who like, I only learned how to get self-esteem through achievement because I never didn't achieve when I was a kid because achieving is so easy when you're just a little kid.
Starting point is 00:45:46 And then the bar gets so much higher when you grow up that like, yeah, you can get straight A's and be the top of everything and be the head of everything when you're five because it's not really that big of a competition. And then that's the only way you learn how to feel good about yourself. When you're 29 and you can't do that, how do you feel good about yourself? And I've been experimenting with different things, trying to figure out different things. I haven't found anything. What if you found, well, you know, have you found anything that kind of gives you like a bit of a like, and I know. And I know you will say that you are not achieving in this area. But I would say you are in a lot of ways of like where you were maybe like last year.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Oh, like mental health wise. Yeah. As opposed to now, I think there have been things you found that have helped you, you know, like what are some of those things? Okay, so the things that I know that make me happy are, I definitely, when we made that movie, when we made in Jeff, we trust, actually making it made me really happy. And it reminds me that like, oh yeah, when I was a kid, sure, I loved to achieve, but the thing I loved to do was every summer, write a 20 page, 30 page script, buy all the costumes, direct a movie with all my friends in it, act in it, edit it, and screen it. That was what I, it wasn't necessarily taking it to film festivals and being like, yay, Tee, even though that's such a fun excuse to travel. We love traveling. Just actually like making something that is that fun on the date. Like that is a thing that makes me go like, okay, I have, I can pull when I'm like really upset for like, I can pull for memories from that and be like, that was so fucking fun. Like what a what a privilege to even just get to do that at all. And then yeah, one of my favorite people in the entire world, always says self-esteem comes from esteemable acts.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And so I've been trying to do that. I've been trying to be like, okay, well, like when we were in New York, I was like, I'm going to try to get places on time or like five minutes early. And I did feel like proud of myself when I did. So I think, yeah, I think a lot of what I'm trying to do right now, especially before I turn 30, is like, is like self-improvement because I'm like, well, worst-case scenario. And when I say self-improvement, I also mean like in the way I treat myself, which is rock bottom, like could not be worse. And so, yeah, I feel like by
Starting point is 00:48:10 by trying to figure out how to, because when I was the achiever child, like, the way I did it was by throwing my body in the trash, like, by being like, okay, well, I just, I'll treat my body terribly so I can like stay up and get good grades. And then I got a thyroid disorder from that. And then now I still have it. And it's like, if I took a second and was like, well, wait, wait, what if I just like treated some of the chronic stress I have by like doing somatic exercises and meditating. Have I? Absolutely not. Not even once. But I kind of want to. And maybe that's something. And I do want to travel more. Yeah. And also, you know, like when you push yourself super hard, you're going to have a natural like burnout. 100% where then you're just not doing anything. And you can't do anything and then it's so much worse.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So then it's like, there's just no balance. I have to learn balance. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like anything else. It's like if you do too many things. that are like bad or too many things that are good, then there's going to be like a. So anyway, we were talking about this anagram test thing because they, I've been listening to the Amy Polar podcast a lot, which I find really lovely and like endearing. And she talks about it all the time. What is she? I don't even remember it. Let me find. But I know that Bowen Yang is a four, which is very rare.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Oh. Oh, she's an eight, which is called the Challenger. Oh. And can we see the chart of all of the eneograms? Yeah. Apparently it's supposed to be kind of like, if you haven't done your enneagram test, you can do it. It's like 99 cents. It's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I did it three times. Did you do it three times? I did it three times last night because I always get the same one. I always get the same one no matter how many years apart I take it. And I was like, I took it once. I got the one I always get. And then I was like, what if I didn't answer all the questions necessarily perfectly? And then I went back through it.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And then... That's probably telling for what you are. Yeah. And then I, yeah. So I can go into what that all was. But yeah, okay. It's also like, you know, obviously you have to take these quizzes with a great. 100%.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And also, all of this is fun. None of this is a law, you know. And also it's like, you know, as I was doing the quiz, there's a question that's like, are you self-aware? And that made me spin out. Yeah. Because I was like, well, if I think I'm self-aware, does that make me self-aware? Or does that make me actually the least self-aware?
Starting point is 00:50:32 Totally. No. And like I took it one time and, of course, you spin out. And then I was like, okay, what if I take it another time and I spin out in the other way I was thinking about spinning out? Like, if someone goes like, would your peers call you, you know, confident or something? And it's like, I don't know. Like some of them might. Some of them.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And like, you know, you get into that really like, well, I. Yeah. So that's kind of the thing is that, you know, you are answering questions about yourself. so it is hard to be completely, you know, unbiased. But so here are the different types. One is the reformer. Two is the helper. Three is the achiever.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Four is the individualist. Five is the investigator. Six is the loyalist. Seven is the enthusiast. Eight is the challenger, Amy Poehler. And nine is the peacemaker. I want to be the enthusiast. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Uh-huh. Cool, Olivia. Nice. And I will say they all have positives and negatives. Like they might sound more positive or negative, but they all have positives and negative. It's so funny, too, because I was talking about these, like, right before you said, let's do this. And it was just such a silly coincidence that I was like already getting into these right now. Yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:51:46 You know, when nothing makes sense in the world, it's, it's like soothing and like comforting to go in and be like, well, what's this? Yeah. So do you want to talk about your anagram? you got number three. I, yeah, I did. I got number three. Which is the achiever. The achiever.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And you've taken this test before as well. I've taken this test like five times since I was like 18. Okay. And I get the same one every time. And it's the achiever. And it's the achiever. Which is just like you didn't learn how to get self-esteem any other way. Success oriented, pragmatic type.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Oh my God. My eyesight is so bad. Adaptive, excelling, driven, and image conscious. So I took, so here's the fun fact. I took the test. I got the three again. It was like, you're the achiever, you dumb bitch. And then I was like, what if I take it one more time?
Starting point is 00:52:35 And the questions I was like, I don't know. I kind of answer them and like the thing I almost clicked but didn't. So I did that and it gave me a one, which is worse. What's one? It's the perfectionist. The reformer. The reformer, rational, idealistic, principled, purposeful, self-controlled perfectionist. And I was reading it and I was like, this isn't as much of me as the other one is.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And then I took it one more time just to see. And I was like, I'm not even going to, like, I'm just going to do first impulse. And then I got the three again. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And what are, did you, do you have your little results page? Oh, yeah. Did they tell you when you have it?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Oh, yeah, I do have it. Yeah. What are you? I got five. All that sluvler, which is the thinker. The investigator. You're so investigatory. Intent, cerebral type, perceptive, innovative.
Starting point is 00:53:24 secretive and isolated. Yeah, I got a lot of... Are you isolated? I guess. I don't know. My isolated queen. A lot of the things, I was actually kind of confused because a lot of the answers on mine were like, you are just always by yourself.
Starting point is 00:53:43 And I'm like, well, not always. No. I want to look of compatibility between those. I'm going to do some highlighting of mine, okay? Threes define themselves by their need to feel. significant and distinct through their successes. See, I hate this. I feel like this is a villain. I feel like this is a villain archetype. Like, this is like a bad person archetype. No, I don't think so. But maybe that's my reformer is like the constant fear that I'm a bad person.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Because I think that it's like a moralistic. I think that's just a compulsion. That's fair. To others, they appear confident, ambitious, and focused on their goals. So I don't know how I appear to others. So I don't know about that. Yet deep inside, threes often question their own value and seek constant validation through what they achieve. That is true. threes are typically image conscious it's crucial for them to be seen as successful and accomplished in the eyes of others like yes before i was so depressed and now i'm just kind of like floating you know what i mean like if you were to give give me like this would have rung much more true before my life uh went all crazy in in 2024 like if if you had read this to me in 2023 i would be like absolutely and now i just sort of feel like well if i live to 30 that'll be awesome um Deepest fear. Threes deeply fear insignificance or failure. Yeah. To cope with this fear, they relentlessly seek to win in all aspects of life, reassuring themselves that they are valuable. That's so sad. Core motivation, attention and admiration, drive threes. They strive to be successful and prove their significance. They tend to avoid feeling unworthy or undervalued as much as they can. I feel that way all the time. Key personality traits of the threes. Highly aware of social niceties, but I think that's just because I'm neurodivergent and I had to study it as a child. you know what I mean? Like social niceties, I had to be like, oh, it's people don't like when you do this. They like when you do this.
Starting point is 00:55:27 So I have to. But maybe that's part of it. Wide range of notable accomplishments, extremely busy, often juggling packed schedules. Yes, that is me. May have interests in improvisation or acting. Yeah. Refined sense of personal style and outer appearance. I do have a specific way I look all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Charismatic, good at making strong first impressions. Can't speak on that. polished, driven, and sophisticated. I don't think I'm polished or sophisticated. These three's want to do, da, da, da, da, da, da, they're smart, ambitious, typically well-dressed. They consistently hit and exceed their targets, often becoming, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. They have schedules filled with events, professional meetings, and social engagements that keep them constantly on the move. That is 100% true. At their best, they're confident and energetic and humble leaders who inspire others with their productivity and focus. They have a reputation for being workaholics, but they manage to dress sharply well.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Why is it talking about how they dress a little time? I don't know what he's talking about how you dress a lot. In contrast, an unhealthy three can become obsessive, self-serving, and untrustworthy. They may sacrifice others for their own advantage driven by a desire to maintain their image. So I don't think I'm in danger of that, though. I think I'm more in danger of like walking into the street. You know what I mean? Then I'm like throwing someone else under the bus.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I think I'm more the type of three that's like, well, have failed, so it's time. Right. Does it say what other people are threes? Yes, we've got Oprah, we've got Tony Robbins, we've got Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Megan Markle, Tom Cruise, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Muhammad Ali, Casey Musgraves, Reese Witherspoon, and then fictional characters, we've got Marjorie Tyrell. And how did they take the test? Leslie Nope. The fictional character is a three.
Starting point is 00:57:15 How did they take the test? I don't know. Okay. And so what parts of that do you identify with? I identify with, I identify with definitely the parts of like they're trying to jam pack their schedule with anything. They only learned how to get self-esteem through praise and achievement and they don't know how to like feel good about themselves otherwise. And while, oh, this one, they are deeply attuned to the emotions of those around them. They can often sidestep their own feelings. as an avoidance strategy to maintain productivity, 100 million percent. I'm trying to actively not do that this year, and it's very hard. It's vital for me to discover relaxation techniques, engage in personal hobbies, and prioritize mental well-being. Yeah, that's what I was just saying, and something I am absolutely comically bad at.
Starting point is 00:58:09 But maybe I should look at it like something I need to achieve. Am I right? Am I right? No, actually, yeah. Please tell me I'm right. I think, yeah, using your tendencies to your advantage, probably a good idea of like, oh, well, if I make this like an achievement system, if that's kind of a thing that works for you, that makes sense. Yeah. And it's just like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:58:29 it's so funny because because I like embrace vulnerability. I feel like I have done that. I feel like, I don't know, but I'm also have no idea how accurate my self-awareness is. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, I think also like it is, we know ourselves and we know ourselves in like such intimate times that other people don't know. And so it's like harder to say. Like there were so many of these questions where I was like, well, not all the time. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, and sometimes I'm like this. How very thinker of you. Yeah. It's hard to do. Um, well, well, what's what's your deal? Tell me your deal. Oh, I'm just secretive and isolated. Okay, wait. I want to, did you get your results back? Just secretive and isolated as all.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Well, thank God. Um, it, it says, um, So a big thing that mine says, alert, curious, you know, independent, innovative, they become preoccupied with their thoughts a lot and imaginary constructs. A lot of mine was like, okay, get out of the, get out of your fucking head. Interesting. A lot of mine was like, okay, so you imagined all the weird ways this could go. Yeah. But what are you doing? Anything?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Interesting. Interesting. They become detached, yet high-strung and intense. Oh. They typically have problems with eccentricity, nihilism, and isolation. Wait, they have problems with it, meaning like they're too eccentric. I don't know. At their best, they're visionary pioneers.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Okay, iconic. Love that. Such a crazy thing. That's truly everything. Saying at their best, they're visionary pioneers, often ahead of their time. and able to see the world in an entirely no way. Okay. Black and white.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I see it in black and white. And their basic fear is being useless, helpless or incapable. Big thing that I saw in this was that fives tend to get uncomfortable with other people's issues. Yeah. They take them on and start thinking about them a lot. Yeah. And then become kind of like, oh, if I can't help, like, then what's the fucking, like, what the fuck do I do? And so a lot of the things, I actually felt like that's like a good thing to maybe just lock is like if there is a time that somebody's telling me their issue and maybe I become a little like frozen. It's like, okay, you don't actually. Yeah, it's not your responsibility. You don't need to take on the feeling. But you can like, and you don't need to fix it. Yeah. You can just be like, Totally.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah. And I try to do that, but I'm not. No, I get what you're saying for sure. Because it's that thing of like you get so uncomfortable with somebody having a problem that you go, okay, and then the fix is. Yeah. And it's like, well, no, not all the time. That's not what people are looking for all the time. And obviously.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I feel like, yeah, it's funny because I'm like listening to this. I'm like, I don't, trying to be supportive and agree and be like, yeah, that sounds like you. And I'm like, but, you know, I don't know if you. you're, I don't think of you as secretive and isolated, but I guess you do have a side of yourself that you have, that's super secretive and isolated. No, you have a lot of, a lot of things you love to do are solo things. Like, you love to do pottery. You love to like listen to an audio book and do pottery for a while. And it's like re-engages, like, I don't know, like reconnects you yourself and you, you, you love reading and, you know, I don't know, like there's a lot of like solo activities that I think
Starting point is 01:02:12 recharge you. And that makes sense. Yeah, I do, I do like a lot of, um, solo activities. And I feel that I get FOMO less than most people. I feel like if I don't get invited to something, I'm like, that is absolutely fine. I'm going to be at home playing my farm game. Right. Yeah. You guys have so much fun. It, whereas I feel like I have a lot of friends who very much so get like really upset if they're not in an environment with a bunch of people. And I'm like, that's okay. Um, uh, the big. The big. Big thing it said is like wanting to understand your environment and wanting to understand like the stuff going on around you, which I do want to understand. I don't think I really do, but I want to. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I don't know. Well, here's something fun. Past, do you know what you are? Take the test. It's only 30 to 40 minutes. It only takes 30 to 40 minutes and 99 cents. You want to know a fun fact about me. Sure. And I don't know how this. filters into being a three or not or whatever, or my Saturn's return. But since January, my
Starting point is 01:03:23 upper left eyelid has been twitching since January. And it is currently July. And I've just sort of accepted it and gone like, it's not going to go away because it's been happening for so long. It just switched to the bottom eyelid during this episode. And that is actually huge. That is actually huge because it's been my upper left eyelid for seven months and now it's my lower left eyelid. Have you gone to the eye doctor? Um, I wonder if an eye problem. According to everything I've looked up, it's a stress thing, which I would buy as well. But, um, that I could go to the, I might as well go to the doctor. I have health insurance right now. Shockingly. Yeah, now it's the lower one, which is, I think, a funnier eyelid to have twitching.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I think it's funnier when your lower eyelid is twitching than when your upper eyelid is twitching. Fair, fair. But you guys let us know what you think about that. I think it's way funnier when it's the lower one. Yeah. Maybe I don't know. Yeah. What I would like to know is what are your guys's eneagram results?
Starting point is 01:04:36 Can we look up the three and five compatibilities? They can be a compatible pairing, though with some potential challenges. They share a focus on competence and effectiveness, particularly in professional areas, which can be a strong foundation for their relationship. However, their differences in emotional expression in social needs can lead to friction if not carefully managed. Ooh. Shared drive for competence, complementary skills, understanding of work-life balance. And then the potential challenges are what? Emotional disconnect.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Differing social needs. Risk of conflict over goals and values. and downward spiral. Okay, well, one of the things that can happen is downward spiral, so I don't love that. That sounds like pretty vague, too. I'm like, what are you talking about? Without emotional connection and a shared understanding of each other's needs, the relationship can deteriorate into criticism and resentment.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I would say that's true for any two people. Yeah. That is the funny thing about these things. It's like, like, yeah, across the board, though. If you guys don't talk about the things you need and if you guys are needing different things and don't talk about it, it might be bad. It's like, yeah, no shit. I would say no shit to that.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Guys, let us know what your enneagram numbers are. We do have a Discord now on the Patreon. Oh, yeah. So definitely become a member of the Patreon so that we can all chat. Let us know if you're in your Saturn's return or even just a tough spot and we can all chat about it and hype you up. Different kind of episode today, but we were just feeling like chatting and like just talking about some real stuff. Yeah, there's some scary stuff in the world right now. What are you going to do?
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