Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - Geoff & Amir Are Mead Freaks

Episode Date: July 14, 2026

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We saw you and Jake and we were like, oh my God, we follow each other on TikTok and you both looked up at us and like, we do? Well, what did we actually say? You said, oh, I think you said. The way you're talking about it, I'm like, a rich person on the Titanic. Like, oh. No, you said. You said something like. Jake, help.

Welcome to me. Welcome to. Welcome to Sydney. This is the podcast for you. The big bad podcast for you. This is an Olivia charge. I'm Sud. I'm the Olivia one. And today we have two very other special ones.

Guys, our ones are special today. If you're going to the club and you need some ones, I'm going to tell you, these are some good ones to bring. You've heard of Jake and Amir, but have you heard of Jeff and Amir? But have you heard of Jeff? No. Not really. If I wasn't here, that would be a funny intro for Jeff. You've heard of Jake and Amir, but have you heard of Jeff?

Yeah, this is just sort of a coastal proximity thing. If Jake lived in L.A. still, I would be sitting back there. Were you thinking about maybe getting a mask of his face? I was going to say, yeah, sort of. But one of those wearable ones where if you tuck it into your shirt, you really look like Nixon. Do you get accused of replacing Jake with Jeff? I do not. Okay, great.

Their audience accuses Jake of replacing a mirror with me because I'm constantly yelling stuff that's not right. Although you and Jake wouldn't do this in New York. That's funny. I feel like we have a rapport. Me and Jake have a rapport, but you and Jake are not really. Well, he makes so much money on his D&D podcast that he doesn't want to do. You're the link between, yeah. I mean, we'll bleep this, Kassum, but, I mean, he makes like $1.

Wow. Yeah. That's fucking sake. Will we bleep it? Why are we not doing a D&D podcast? Because you miss the boat, I think. Yeah. We talk about this a lot, and it's the value proposition of what anyone gets it.

I'll be a fucking dragon in a minute. I love to do it for free. Yeah, we love D&D. We just don't understand it yet. Oh, no, totally. If you would like doing it, maybe try it. Yeah, we don't want to do it at all. It's just weird improv.

Yeah. And improv's already weird. Yeah, but that sounds so much fun for me. Yeah, I had a scoliosis brace in middle school. Are you wrong with your body? You showed us like a bruise that was- Yeah. Yeah.

You guys want us to see my nasty bruise? I wouldn't show it. Not to your audience. Nasty music for the nasty bruise. Yeah. Is it this one? Yeah, it's that one. I can tell because it's so nasty, nasty.

Yeah, it's bad. That looks painful. And we can cut this as well. I would cut it, obviously. Just for the Patreon. Speaking of Patreon, you guys are. It's very flexible for you to even show it. Like, I wouldn't be able to do that.

Let's see. Yeah, let's try. You could be. Well, no, I'm wearing a score. So mine's going to be pornographic. She's wearing, like, flowing, like, you know, pot. You got higher than this? Can my leg go higher?

Yeah, this is a good question. Mine can't. Oh, I feel that. Yeah. Yeah, no, my can't. My legs can't straighten, really. God, I never wanted to say anything. God gave me flexibility.

And in return, God was like, sorry. Took your spine. I have no, you have no, you get bruises. Yeah. That's a fine trade off genetically. I'm also good in some ways and terrible enough. I'm great at all in jars. You name four of them.

Yeah. Name four presidents? Sure. Miller Fillmore. And four things you're bad at. And four things you're bad at. Only four? Yeah.

The bad. Yeah. 85 bad things. Yeah, four things I'm good at is math is good. That's true. I'm good with numbers. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not losing my hair. That's good. Exactly. I'm crunching the numbers. And if Jake asks, you were the one who kind of spilled those beans. He'll see this. You have like an encyclopedic memory of like basketball. Yeah.

That's cool. That's fun. That's a good one. That's good. You've gotten hotter with time. Good memory. I would say. We make a lot of jokes about how old you are.

That's good. He looks so much about it. than when he did when he was 25. I love that. That's something I feel like somebody should say about themselves, but maybe not other people should say. I was going to say, we can cut that out. Maybe if we have to create it, then keep the .

Now I'm confused what we're keeping in and what we're getting out. Yeah, we're cutting everything. That'll be, I'll have to adjust my callbacks accordingly. We're going to cut what we say and what you guys say. So let's take it from the intro. Have you guys heard of Jake and Amir? Well, we're here with Jeff. Yeah, I will leave you.

You'll run out. Get out of here. Let's keep Jake's salary in. Let's keep you almost exposing your. body. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And then we'll go from there. I think so. I think so. So you only consider my body to be my heinie? I just your upper leg back. It was an insane thing to do on camera and I would have never done that. And like no really. I was somebody how they host their show. The thing about it's

actually the whole thing and I did show part of it. Here's the thing is like I'm happy that you think that was best up because today's going to be crazy. I'm really worried about to go puff bag. Yesterday I was at my grandma's 100 second birthday. And I was a, went full Star-E mode sexual starfish mode but for podcast style where I was like

hey Livy can you just do this one? I'm starfishing with my grandma can you just like what does starfishing mean when you lay like this during sex okay does that for a birth sex

well that helps it so much when you're tired yeah I think it helps for you and you don't really want to do anything I was starfish mode at my grandma's birthday party and that you weren't bringing a lot socially that I wasn't bringing a lot socially

and I was just pretty much tired and eating like a pancake. That's kind of it. Just the one. And I was pretty much eating a pancake and my grandma was being like, you need to buy me some more jelly. And I was like for sure. Is she 100% with it? She's 100% with it. When you say buying more jelly, like her thing and her birthday brunch was toast? No. So she, I like order her orange marmalade thing.

Got it. Like on a weekly basis? Just like whenever she runs out. That like red checkered top one? Yes. And she was like. What's that brand? No. Oh, it's, yeah, I know exactly. I can see it. Paddington. Paddington Bear brand?

It's like his last charge with the red checker. When did you start if I were you? 2001. Okay, so this has been like over 15 years of podcasting. You think kind of really narrowing down. I'm just figuring out the marmalade brand. Yeah, it's going to be good for audio. I want to say a lady marmalade, but it's not that.

It's something French. It's like Petit. Oh, petite. You guys are being way too nice to him. Content. do something about it. Our podcast is we're not like generally super mean to our guests. That's funny.

That's really, really hard for me to understand. Here's what I'll say. So what's funny about nice though. We do require. Yeah. This is the only podcast with a safe word. Oh, that's funny. Bam, bam, bam.

So I need you guys to pick a safe word. I need you guys to pick a safe word before we get into. to the next segment. And it can be anything. Just something you wouldn't say unless you're like, stop it. Please stop. Oyster.

Oyster. Okay, great. Oyster. I would almost want to adopt the like red, yellow, green thing. Because some things we might want to just slow down. Oh, yeah. You can say yellow. Yeah, red, yellow, green.

That's good. That's good. Do you know about that shit? So, that. Oh, good. Yeah, okay, great. We'll just do red, yellow, green. Or do you not know how colors.

Do you not know that? Do you know red, yellow green? So what is the segment? Okay, so guys, we have a segment, and Jeff, you've inspired me, right? Oh, my God. We went on your guys' show, and all of your segments were really interesting in that they were built around a title. Yeah. And the title was always just something that kind of sounded like something else.

Right. Upon the fourth time. How do you even remember this story? And also try not to ruin how the sausage is made because a lot of people don't realize all of the segments are basic. You would just sort of say something that sounded like something else. And then you described the segment in a way that was like, oh, you clearly just went like, well, what would that be? Which we loved. So we're doing a twist on a segment of ours we do sometimes.

We have a segment called speed bonding. Oh, yeah. The thing about it is it's like just trying to get to know each other, get as close as possible in a very short amount of time. But we feel close enough to you and we wouldn't like to get closer. Yeah. I mean, I know your birthdays at this. Yeah, we're going to get closer with you guys. We're going to start with speed bonding and then we're going to switch it up to a couple of other segments.

Okay. That are versions of speedbinding. Okay, here we go. Yeah. So let's start with regular old speed bonding. Can we get 30 seconds on? o'clock? This is speedbonding. Play music! Got the music! We don't like the music.

Um, okay, and go. All right, what would you tell your younger self? Uh, keep at it, man. You're doing a great job. Work harder and, uh, yeah, maybe get the brick thing for your phone earlier. Where the scoliosis brace every day. Yeah, it's going to be okay. Just hang in there. Um, what, is time a human made construct? Yes. Yes. Uh, no, because the sun rises in sets and that's pretty natural. I made the sun. Is it ever okay to lie? Yes, sure.

I think so. To preserve someone's feelings when they're about to die. 100%. We're out to die for sure. Like lie to your grandmother for sure. You lie to your grandmother right now. Great. Okay.

All right. Great, great, great, great. All right. So our next thing we're doing... It's a fucking gun. Oh my God. It's a rule of all. Next thing we're doing is mead bonding.

No way. We're all going to drink mead and talk about the Renfair. Okay, mead. What was the first one? Mead bonding. Meera like never drinks really. Yeah. You can have fake mead too.

Okay. I wanted to get, um, yes. I also thought mead was here. Mead is honey wine. God, remember when Dylan Sprouse was making mead in Brooklyn? No. Wait, what?

You don't? Dylan Sprauss had a meatery at the bottom of the William Vale Hotel. Meeterie is where you make mead, not where you make meat. No, that's a meatery. It's also not that. Okay, so I can't make meat. I tried to get like Renfair challenge. Bullsprose makes meat.

Dylan Spruce makes meat. I'm so sorry. I tried to get Renfair challenges Whoa I tried to get Renfair chalices But they showed up this small Okay So here you go Here you go

I guess it is 2 p.m. It's got to be 3 p.m. I have a deposition after this Of course No I can have a shot of honey wine for sure I've had mead before and it tastes like sweat I don't like mead It's awful

But it did rhyme So is the idea that we're putting a clock on for 30 seconds And we're drinking this? We're drinking this and I'm asking questions about the Renfair Okay, here we go All right. And 60 seconds on the clock.

Because you realize 30 wasn't enough? Well, not for mead bonding. Okay. What about meat bonding? And go. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.

Do you fuck with the Renfair? What's your favorite costume vibe? Oh, my God. I want to kill myself. I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. It's getting worse for sure. It's getting so much. It just tastes like a white wine or something. No, my God. Maybe I just... So we're supposed to have more? Well, you can. You're supposed to have me.

It's not a bond of more. Who's your... Who's your rent-fell crush? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Aaron Bonk, of course. Aaron bonk, mine's the bar wenches, right? I mean, the bar wenches.

My God. The gorgeous bar wenches. I would marry them if I wouldn't get jealous of there were. I'm never been... I mean, I'm never been... The turkey leg looks up... More me. It's more me.

It's an insane rule that you didn't explain before. He wouldn't have said it otherwise. Just lies. We're going an okay time to lie. I love that every time I go to the rent fair. Oh my God. I just crazy spot out of now. It's really good.

They all talk over each other. I also love, we'll leave one second. I can't pay it now. Wait. It stops. Okay. Next up. I also like, we're using the safe word thing, green yellow, yellow, red.

I'm using it to control others. It's not how it's supposed to work. I'm still sipping mine. I mean, I couldn't get it down. Can I ask, what? Is the audio playing? Like, okay, good. Okay, guys, next up, we've got feed bonding.

How do we feel drunk after that? We're going to feed each other while we ask questions about food. Oh, that's awesome. Who wants a regular croissant, who wants a chocolate croissant? I like regular. Yeah, regular. Okay, regular for you. And you have to feed, but you have to get someone else to feed you.

Okay. Okay. Here is your regular. You want to go distance-based? Yeah. You mean the furthest? No, distance. We could all get like really close.

Like, nope. Then the cameras will get it, right? Okay. I feel like, I feel like distance based. And this is also just better. Yeah, distance. Yeah. Weirder.

Now, do you guys think feeding is cheating? Sorry? Ready? Okay, Greg. Great first question. Just because I'm in a lot of hot water already. Take it for a great. What are you going to be?

Is feeding cheating? Is feeding cheating? That's, I can't fucking clarify that. Like cheating? Yeah. His wife keeps being like, oh, you look at this person wrong. Yeah, I follow this person on Instagram. She's been spending a lot of time

where they're personal trainer really said. Dylan is cut and he's strong and it's important to learn out of work. We can make this. Are we all in relationship? Yeah, no, no. Exactly.

And also, this is about to be this is about to be the least sexual thing you've ever seen. Okay, and start the clock. See that's, okay, great. Sorry, I think we can use a whole thing. Someone put something. It's so scale from Starbucks.

It really is. Did you get this yesterday? No, I got it this morning. Oh, what's the question? Guys, guys. Wait, is feeding cheating? No. Now that we've told it.

Is feeding cheating? I don't think so. I think it only is if you have a feeding kink. Okay, sure. I don't have a feeding kink. Don't worry. Do you have a good relationship with food? No.

If so, what's that like? Ask me what I had for lunch today. You have lunch today? I had ice cream. I had a shot of meat and some of this. Olivia. What's your food that reminds you of your child? Olivia, you need to eat a full lunch.

Falafel. Falafel. Okay. What's a breaded chicken? What's a meat? foods that remind you of your childhood. A breaded chicken cutlet by grandma. Oh, right a tater toss made in the fucking air friar.

The air friar, that's a new thing. Whatever. You had an air friar during childhood? No, I was going to make them an air friar now. You had a toaster up during COVID? All right. Next up. Next up we're doing.

Is that done with this? Can I spit this out? Ask me what I had for ice cream. What'd you have for ice cream? A pastrami sandwich. Now that's a good relationship with food. And commercial. Between work, family responsibilities, and everybody needing you all day, sometimes hanging out with friends can be self-care.

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You're my only real friend in the studio. Get some mead. I might need some mead to wash it all down. Do you want a little teacup of mead to wash it all down? I don't, I'm all right. This is a great segment, Olivia. Good job. I'm so sorry. I was starfish on you, but I think this is great. There was speed bonding.

Mead bonding. Mead bonding. What was that one? Feed bonding, right. Next up, we've got. Speed binding. Okay. I answer questions while we all tie ourselves together. Okay.

The fact that the rhyme wasn't sticking with the first syllable is really funny to me. Speed binding. Can we have some scissors? You should be doing it. I was one way if there was going to be speed bonding. You also should know that there was an episode. Oh, it could have been speed bonded. No, I like speed binding because it breaks the rhyme.

There was an episode where I did all the segments and all of them were like, guess what dentist I found on Doc Doc? Yeah, I never wanted to bring that one up. Yeah. I brought rope. We should say Olivia texted in our group chat that was just made to plan this. But she said, do you have any allergies or foods you really don't like? Yeah, because I didn't want to get anyone.

If someone was like, so you can pass that end down to her. Yeah, if I was gluten free, I wouldn't be able to do that. Yeah, and I should be gluten free, but I'm not. Of course. And Amir's was mushrooms. Mine was anything egg. Yeah, 100%. That's so crazy.

Anything. I love it. Anything. Okay. Okay, speed binding. Okay, let's start the clock and go. Are we asking questions? Yeah.

Oh, right, that part. Yeah. When in your life have you felt trapped? Right. Oh, oh. Yeah. Oh. I feel like when I didn't have like a good relationship with relationship.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I would feel trapped in relationship. Yeah. But what about like a normal healthy relationship that makes you feel trapped? Because it doesn't matter who you're with. you're going to feel a way to do with a way to do that's how I used to be for sure. Yeah. What changed?

I'm asking for a fiend. I think mostly I just got used to the idea that like sometimes if you feel super anxious, not necessarily a bad thing about the other person. Yeah. Just something you're working for. I think that's so fair. You're an anxiously attached person? No, I'm like, what's the opposite?

Avoid it. That's funny. That's the cooler one. I think it's not when you're like the thing I'm doing instead is like playing Sims. No, well, it's also not cool. This time the timer is going slow, it seems. Yeah. Like, I keep looking at it to be at one.

It's not cool when you're like, oh, all I'm doing is really people. But I definitely like, yeah, I would, yeah. I've definitely felt trapped in friendships, relationships, and physical spaces. Yeah, definitely. You didn't answer the question. Yeah, the croissant I was going to say. I really want more of the chocolate croissant. Oh, yeah.

Okay. And then finally. And you want it to be fed to you. Finally, guys, we're going to do freed bonding, where we free ourselves of this and we ask more questions. Can we get 30 seconds? Wouldn't it be freed binding? Free, freeing. Free of binding.

Free of binding. Why is this one 90? This one's 90 seconds. Let's go 90. Okay. Freed bonding. Okay. Wow.

Okay. Wow. When have you felt the most yourself? That's the most earnest question you ask. I feel honestly on Corey's birthday was great. Yeah. That was like, oh, these are my closest friends. Yeah, I was going to say Corey's.

We played volleyball. Yeah. I was invited to Corey's birthday. specific. You have no fucking idea how sore I was after that. Yeah, after playing volleyball, it really is because you never lunge. You never really used those muscles at Corrie's. Well, I also, so I played two. Plus the food at Corrie's. Sometimes you don't realize that your thought processes are spilling out like vomit. All right. So that was that segment. That was amazing. That was amazing. Cut the music. Wow, excellent.

Speed bond bonding. Does anyone want some more meat in their perfectly sized cup? I have the need. Quick buy you. I have the need for meat. This is the only cup that me to drink out of it. You know what it tastes like? It tastes like if Manashevitz was worse. Yeah, it tastes like cheap religious wine. Yeah.

I'm going to fuck it up if I try to spill it into anyone else's. Like I like Manishovets, but this is more like if urine and Manishavits were mixed. Yeah, Gorge. Did you, did you like, did you grow up going to temple a lot or just on high holidays? Yeah. Were you high? I almost did weed bonding, but I was like, we can't. I wanted to do weed bonding, but I was like everything else has a prop and we can't smoke weed on the can we?

Probably. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cool. Oh. If it was, oh. Ew.

Ew. If it was like a, it's like a, the smell of like a Halloween costume. It does. Oh my God. That's such, that's really true. Oh my God. And it has phases. It has phases of bad.

It gets to a very nutty bad. I don't feel like we're being dramatic. No, I'm for real. No, I love alcohol. Right. You said. And you do keep yelling that. And I don't even have, I'm not even having a good time.

But I do like the bottle. I do like the bottle. When do we want to do a confrontation? Should we just get into it? Oh my God. Okay. Okay. So I guess I feel like in this situation, there's something, there's an elephant in the room.

I was going to say. I feel like Jeff should be our couples therapist here, Polly style, because you're the only person not involved. And it was your idea to talk about it. Yeah. I'm glad to have the front row seat to whatever is about to happen. Yeah. Yeah.

So, well, you have a great memory. Yeah. Thank you. But you don't remember this? January 14th. Yes. April 23rd. 100%.

Yeah. What about my birthday, do you think? I really think it's October, but I can't commit to that area of the calendar yet. Yeah. It's a choice then. Avoid. So I'll tell, I'll lead us in, right? Yeah.

Once upon a time I feel like I actually could retell this story I'm not going to You should because you're the only one who's not involved Yeah I only want to retell it to make him feel bad for not remembering it twice Because you did bring it up to him in person Corey's party I was Corey's party Once upon a time they were at Millie's Cafe in Silver Lake

Having lunch and then you and People from Headgum Yeah they were at lunch we were walking by I know this story it didn't seem like this is the Polly story That's why I didn't Poly-Style. So like couples therapy, but there's three of us here. I already fucked up the story.

You guys should tell it. No. What the hell? So once upon a time, we had an interaction with you. Yeah. And Jake. And Jake. Yeah.

And we left that interaction truly, incorrectly. Incorrectly thinking. If this is an apology or a Mia Culpa, I assure you, I don't harbor any of it. ill. Yeah, we just... No, they're wanting the Apologies. No, no, no, no. No, I just want to clear that. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. Because someone made a YouTube video about it.

Well, what happened was... Why did you stir Jeff when that happened? He sent it to me. God. I'd already seen it. What happened was... It was your account. I clipped it. Yeah, yeah. We did this thing. We were feeling pretty good. Yeah. And then we were walking by Millies and we saw you and Jake. And we were like, oh my God.

We follow each other on TikTok. And you both looked up at us and, like, We do. Well, what did we actually say? You said, oh. I think you said. The way you're talking about it, I'm like, a rich person on the Titanic. Like, oh.

No, you said. You said something like. Jake, help. You said something like, oh, like, really benign. But because. Are you sure they didn't say, we do? Maybe. Maybe.

You? It was. They said, we do? Yeah. We're like, oh, okay. But it was like quiet after that. There was like, it was like just a huge. a human awkward interaction.

It was like the thing where it was like you clearly have no idea who we are and are trying to place us and we feel like we should not have said anything. We just walked up to you in public and we're like, surprise, you're having an interaction now, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think we. And then how, keep going because I want to know how this story is. And then I think it ends with, yeah, you guys were like, oh, we do.

Oh, yeah. Great. Yeah, you guys were just having a day. You kind of were just like, oh, yeah, great. And then we left and being too sensitive. girlies who assume everyone hates them. Oh, is it you two walked into traffic I saw? That's how I got this bruise.

Nice. And we were just like, oh, God, we shouldn't have done that. They clearly don't know. Like, their intern must have followed us and we like just made ourselves look like assholes. And we left thinking just like, oh, God, they do not like us. And we were embarrassing. Let's be honest, like, who had the last laugh?

You are the ones shooting. Yeah, well, I was, well, no. You guys are the ones shooting TV. No, they were too. Not were. This was like 10 years ago. No, no, but the thing is none of it is going. Yeah, none of it's real.

No, nothing goes, but it's just fun to try. It's fun to be in that trial phase. You have to find the joy. Otherwise, what are we doing for? This is a really good idea. So my idea was watching another television show and liking it. And Jeff says, you should make that show. No, the British show exists.

I said adapt it to an American audience and you and Jake host. Wait, what? It's this show called Laugh Out Loud. It's like basically try not to laugh. No, it's called Last One Laughing. It's a British TV show, I think. Or there was a British version and multiple other nationalities have their own version. And it's eight comedians in a room and they're just like videocating up for six hours.

Yeah. I've heard of them. So do an American version. And if they're not going to do it, you guys should do it. You guys should do it. I can't just make an American version. Like someone owns the right to that show. And I'm not that person.

They'll decide who. So take. a second mortgage to buy the shit. Really fucking expensive IP because they've done like a Norwegian version and a French version and an English version. So watch the British version. But if you find out who has the rights, let's say like probably NBC owns it glocally. Okay. Yeah.

And then you can just pitch yourself as the host. Sure. I guess I can audition for a role that doesn't exist yet. Absolutely. Yeah. But anyway, you don't hate us. Going all the way back. So internally what I felt at that time

So you do remember this. Yeah, I do know. I'm like, holy shit, I followed these ladies yesterday on TikTok, and I have to act cool in front of Jake because he doesn't know I'm on TikTok at all. Was that yesterday, the day before? It was the day before. Is that true? Amazing.

No. It didn't feel true at all. That you have to hide anything from him. No. Yeah. What was it actually? It was actually. I don't, I can't recognize these.

First of all, I run the Jake and Mir TikTok account because Jake doesn't like TikTok. So I must have followed you guys because it's like, oh, funny people, duos making comedy on TikTok. I need to like see what is happening now because we used to do that for YouTube. Yeah. So I follow a bunch of people, YouTube, I'm sure other fine. Other fuckers. Outstanding. Other motherfuckers.

And then when you guys came up, I'm like, wait, how do I know these people? Oh, wait, I think I have seen them before. But it was like, we were overwhelmed. And then Jake had no idea because he's all the TikTok. Absolutely. So I think it was just like, oh, yeah, great, cool. This is supposed to be a confrontation. You guys are giving him a lot of great.

No, no. Like, he can take it. I know he looks frail and old. I'm completely anti-confrontation. If anything, I'm completely embarrassed that I ever talked about it. No, I don't like confrontation, but I do like the word confrontation. Yeah, it's hot to see on a YouTube video for sure. Yeah, kind of a fun word.

So what is the YouTube video you were talking about? Is it us? Someone clipped it out. Someone clipped. We were talking on another. episode of the podcast and we didn't say your guys names but we were just like oh yeah we had an interaction with people who like we were like oh these people do not like and then their audience figured out that it was jake and then we told the same story on your guys's podcast and someone put

two of the two videos together and it's us telling the story one way being like they didn't like and then telling the story to you being like we thought you didn't like us you know this is the third video oh yeah yeah guys I'm glad we can clear the end and then I think the next time jakes in LA you guys have him on and you finally because you've never confronted jake about shit. No, because we don't know him. No, that's such a good point. We can't because we don't know him.

Also, he didn't follow you, so it's not really on him. Also, vis-a-vis the salary that he has and takes home. I'm not quite sure he would make the drive to Burbank because he doesn't have to. It's true. That being said, I'd like to see exactly what happened because your internal emotions by the hollered my reaction. No, I mean he meant like the interaction, which we obviously. Which is why we should all be screaming.

live streaming everything, like those live streamers that have glasses. On kick, yeah. What's good to do is to always spew shit out of your eyes. And record everything. And record everything you say. Like a dash cam for your life. The amount of times that I've seen somebody in a context, I was not familiar with them in and then was like, oh, and it like took me a second to like figure out who they were

in a different context. It happens often. So the fact that I'm making this a big deal about you doing it, it's so real. That's what it is. Is it like, oh, thank God. You're right. Like that's just, it's like so often. Like seeing your dentist at whole food. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right. I saw my psychiatrist at the airport. Sorry, one second, because we were talking. I said the dentist thing. I feel like all four of us were connecting. No, no, no, you haven't said anything. I didn't go up to him because I was like, there's literally no way that's him. Yeah. I'm going to be making that up. And it was him. I saw my hairstylist at Fitch Knight. Yeah. And I came up to her and I said, you cut my hair. And she went, yeah, what? Yeah, but you always think people say that to you. Because now I don't believe anything that you say about other people's reactions. That's also what you said I said to you.

Rolling back the memory, everybody's like, oh, awesome. Yeah, just followed you the other day. You guys are so funny. Do you, by the time you got to my brain, it was like, yeah, what? In my brain, everyone is like, yes. Yeah. The hairstats actually was like, yes, what? I'm like, oh my God, that's incredible.

I think what she actually said was like, did you think I didn't know who you were? Yeah. And I said that to me at Millies? No, that's what I said. The only consolation you can have if you were mad at him after Millies was that they were having one of the worst meals you can afford in, Los Angeles. You don't like Millies?

I don't like Millies. I don't like Millies. Me too. Why were you there? Good food at a fair price. I mean, why not? Who says no to that? And you know what I love is anything egg. Anything egg. Sponsored by Just Egg.

What it really comes down to, it's two lessons, right? Number one, if you just come up to someone and start talking to them, they might be confused. And that's allowed. They're allowed to be confused and it doesn't mean they don't like you personally on a deep level. Sometimes it just means you. went up to them and started talking to them and they don't really know what's happening. You don't have to cry about it. I mean, we've all been on both sides of these things.

I'm sure somebody's come up to you. Like, oh my God, I follow you or I'm blah, blah, blah. And I'm sure you've gone up to people. And I've gone up to people. Be like, wait. Who've gone up to? When Jason Bateman was at Headgum, I'm like, I have met him before, like, when he was doing a branded commercial shit.

So I'm like, I got to say something. I don't really have to say anything. But it's true to just be like sitting there next to him. So I'm like, hey, we shot. this thing together. I used to work at college humor and you were making like sponsored content branded videos from. He's like, oh yeah, how is that going? I'm like, oh, I don't know. And like, and he asked me like, how's Ricky doing? Like the person who used to run that department. So he was engaged. When was the last time you talked to Ricky Van Veen?

Years. Because he's a billionaire. Yeah, he's rich. I will say like. He's Richard van Van Veen. As a person who is far less like, like, eons less recognizable as you. But that's still, Not all relative, nor is true. Because there's been like a bell curve of his career and we're definitely on the twilight of it. You're that famous person. It's just hard because you're the most famous person. To festivals and stuff all the time, people would be like, oh my God, it's shaking him here. And like, now it's like, I don't know.

When someone comes out to you. Like you guys are about to peak, by the way. You're saying things that somebody can say about themselves, but you can't. Okay. And. Yeah, but the thing is, it's the only thing that makes him laugh. It doesn't get me. When.

Especially when you like rattle it off on here, it's like, yeah, nobody really knows who he is. It's like, how old are you at this point? Millies is objectively not the weirdest or worst place to be recognized, right? It's delicious place. It's still like, you know, a weird thing. It's not delicious. It's really, really easy and burnt. The pancakes are like scalded but also really oily.

And the biscuits are just stale roll. It's delicious. They're not biscuits. It's delicious. And the eggs are spongy. And they're usually mad at you for even order. The potatoes are a thin layer of burnt ash. I think everyone is mad at me,

always except for at Millies, where I think they're lovely to me. What do you get at Millies that you love so much? I just get normal scrambled eggs and normal style. Normal style bacon. It's also not affordable really. No. Normal style. Three normal style things and you think it's incredible.

Yeah, it's incredible. What is in this, eggs? I have to have the rest of it. Are these normal? Are these normal style? And you get to overlook the street. which is awesome. Yeah, I love eating eggs with a chance to run into the street.

Yeah, I love. Because then it's like, I have one thing I love and one thing. Intential thing I love. And a loud bus. Sort of stopping next to your table. What are you holding in that bag? I wanted to do maybe a little segment because it's like, listen. He's got a gun.

I have a gun and I'm armed. And I want to do a segment called I literally rob you. You could so be a carrot top. A pro. Oh, yes. I understand what you're saying. Did you think I'm in redhead? I was just picturing what he looked like.

And I was like, I guess. No, no, no, no, no. I meant, like, you could be a prop comment. I would love to. It's really rude. I have all these props in your bag. And I feel like it works. Of the things that have been said, that's the meanest.

No, I feel like it's such a problem. You know what you'd be really good at? No, not what you would be really good at is something you could pull off. If I pull out more rope. Okay, we're going to tie ourselves together again. Wait, so just to tie a ribbon around the story. Yeah. Which I don't think I fully sort of, we haven't reached a natural conclusion.

Yeah, that's fine. I did recognize you guys. Sure. I do remember the story. story. Yes. Why did you say no, you didn't recognize them? I don't remember that I did say that.

Or did it sound memory telephoned. Didn't say that. So I think I was just calibrating who you guys were. And that's fair because I do the same thing. We all, everyone including relatives. No, even just people that I know personally that aren't like like going like, oh, hey, I know you from something. People who are like, oh, I know you from regular life.

Sometimes it'll take me a second to me. No, I had to jog your memory in the lobby of the studio. Yeah. No, I literally, I screamed and I said, who the fuck is that? I think you have fourth term amnesia or something like that in addition to. But the thing about it is I walked around the corner you said, hey, Kassum. I'm like, no. Hey, Cassum. Oh, my God. It could always be worse, right?

There's always a place you could go where someone goes like, wait, aren't you? Aren't you a mirror that is worse than Millie's? It could always be worse as the like punched down version of it gets better. Yeah, it could always be worse. I mean, now it's bad, but it could be worse. Yeah, like you could be dead. I have this scroll. Is that the Torah? This is a scroll.

Is that? We're going to do our half. Is this the arcs of the covenant? And we're going to do a top 10. Nice. You're shaking. Gripping the scroll. These were also so much smaller than I thought they were going to make.

Also completely blank for sure. Yeah, 100%. Top 10 worst places to be recognized. Oh my God. Go. The urologist. The urologist. The urologist.

Yeah. Dermatologist. I guess doctor in general. general is kind of intimate. Yeah, I would say, yeah, like a pussy doctor would be really bad. Especially if I was there. What the hell of the woman's not doing at the pussy doctor? Actually, my dad and brother are pussy doctors. So there is a reason. Are they really? Yeah, they actually are. Yeah, they actually are. Yeah, Dr. Doron, Doron. I have, yeah, I have recognized someone from college in the lobby of a therapist's office. Oh, that's really bad. Yeah, that's really, really bad. But that's also a medical, like a medical setting is one of the ways. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I

I would say also, yeah, like inpatient treatment would be a hard, a hard place to get recognized. Even though the whole thing with like John Mullaney trying to get recognized didn't have, and no one would. It's like really good. I would say logistically, like right when you get on the subway. Because then it's like they come and they, if they say something to you or you say something to someone right at the beginning of the ride and then just suddenly you're sharing the train car for like 45 minutes. Yeah, you just feel their presence or they feel your presence. Oh my God, during a kidnapping or during a bath. During a bath.

When you realize that somebody's in your bath and you recognize them, when someone goes, wait a minute, are you and you realize there's one more person in your bath? You're talking about like a we spa or you're saying like in your house? In your house. Yeah. This is just piggyback off the subway. What about a subway restaurant? What about my God?

Oh my God. And if you're just like, hey, my hot take is that. I don't know. Fucking Millies is overrated. And then are you Kareem who hosts? Oh my God. And then he recognizes me, but he's like too cool for school, does want to act like he's a college year. Yeah.

That would be so embarrassing. Oh, my God. He's a huge college number guy. It would also be really terrible to recognize somebody at a, like, for example, if you were like an undercover Trump fan. Yes. And then you went to like a MAGA thing and then you recognized someone there and you're like, are we both living a lie? Yeah. That's good.

You're right. We should be more proud to be Trump supporters. Shut up. What? Isn't that what we were trying to say? No. Or like a while in your sick. Like if you were in your own sick.

In your. Don't talk archaically. Like, whilst you're, if you were, like, recognized whilst and you're sick, that would be so embarrassing. Yeah. That would sick. Yeah. That would be really bad. Or also if you were just, like, really, really high on mushrooms. Yeah. Or if you have the papers or tuberculosis or something. Yeah. Or on your fainting couch for sure. When you're on your fainting couch. Being recognized on your fainting couch and having to like snap to and recalibrate and start a conversation. Whoa, I have tuberculosis. Give me some space. Yeah. During an active TB spike would be hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to talk about your? recent gout diagnosis? So basically I have an arthritis of the, not even joints, but in between my knee and my, like this.

It's like sciatica of the femur, yeah. What? You have gout? No, he just like saying gout. To be honest, between the two of us, I would have gout. Yeah, Jeff has more malady. I don't think I do. What's the worst you've ever had?

Gout? Medical malady? Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, this could be a separate podcast. Wait, you've got thyroid problems, right? What? No.

No. No. No, but that I looked like that. I mean, you're clearly hyperthyroidic. Is that fair to say? Hyper. Hyper. Hyper.

Hypo. He has head problems. You have swings are bad. So you have sort of symptoms of both. Concussion. I had persistent post-concussive symptoms. For short. Wow.

No, yeah. I had like, I had like these two back-to-back concussions and then like my brain was fucked for like two years. Now it's fine. Now it's fine. Now I think for what's that? You had an eye thing recently. Oh, I have an ongoing degenerative eye health issue. That's everything. Yeah. What's that happened? Basically I have like it's partially it's because of my South Asian heritage but I have my bomy and gland dysfunction. So you have three layers of tears. There's a, whoa. That's my band. That's my emo band. We have three layers of tears. Yep. We are three layers of tears. perpetual opener

Cut that too Basically there's There's the Like nutritious layer The acquies layer And the lipid layer And the lipid layer Locks everything in

And mine like evaporates Too quickly And you're in the prime of your life Physically would you say? I would say the prime was like younger Yeah like 11 Yeah And this is like tears

Like crying tears Like no This is like when you blink tears Oh Blinky tears There was a while there where I couldn't cry It was like in the holiday

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I'm very anxiously attached to Sydney. This is the worst version of what we're talking about. Yeah. If I think that said... being like codependent with a friend and then avoid it with your partner. Oh my God. I think if Sid is like if she just like writes back too dry or doesn't write back fat, like I will have to stop myself.

Wait, which one, Sid? I thought you were mad at me when I showed up this today. Oh my God. Oh my God. What is this? Please. Can I have one really old bun and yeah, just call it a biscuit and the check please. I will think that she's mad at me and I will like spiral if I think she's mad at

me. I guess you feel that with each other. I'll often think that. I'll think you're mad at me. So it's not just you with strangers. It's you within. Have you ever been mad at me? Probably.

I'm sure we've been, we've had minor tiffs, but nothing that has lasted for several days. Yeah, no, I think everyone's mad at me all. Yeah, me too. I always think everyone's, even your best friend. Yeah.

I think we both think actually that people are like low key deep down. We both kind of think that like everyone in our life is being like coerced into being nice to us. Have you ever been right about that fear? Probably. When I was down metry school, I think. Yeah. Well, I mean, how much money do you guys make off this stuff?

I was going to ask. Literally nothing. No, because I'm not wondering if like, because is there the fear that people are only like with you in terms of proximity? No, no, no, that's the good. No, no. You're famous. You're really, really famous. You realize how famous you are.

No, no, not. And Cassim's getting nothing from this. And we have. Well, how many followers do you have an Instagram? Probably more than that. We have actually. Passam's doing really well. People, every time people are like, so you guys are making money off the

wife is gorgeous. Well, yeah, he's doing really well. That's a huge plus. His wife is gorgeous. His dog is gorgeous. How much better it could be? And what else do you need? And yet the grass is always greener.

Do you know when in high school? You know, you own your house? He looks at our TikToks and goes, God, I wish I had no fucking money at all. I wish I was struggling so hard. I wish all of my bills were behind. No, do you know. Behind what? Behind the due date.

Oh, here we go. Wait, do you know. Oh, good. The four primaries. Yeah. I feel like at this point in my life, I've gotten disorganized. And I don't want to be, and I think I can change that. Do you know how in 80s movies, it'll be like, oh, we voted the kid who's the least popular as prom king as a joke?

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I feel like people are doing to me always. Yeah. So when you succeed, it's a joke. We just shot a whole thing. We just shot like this thing that meant a lot to us. And the whole time we couldn't stop being like, this is a make-a-wish thing. You're going to go to like a screening room of like, oh, like, we finally got it edited.

You guys got to watch the first pass to give notes. And it's just going to start rolling. Then it's just going to say you've been had. Truly, I would be like, honestly, thank you so. And it's a carrot. What the? Like, yeah, is it cake? I often will get auditions for things that are like, it'll be like a self-fail.

You audition for Oppenheimer, we should say. And you got it. You should say it. We should say it. Just for the clip. I'll get a self-tape. What's the biggest audition you've ever had? Well, she was talking about.

I like to interrupt with a lot. We get a lot of. We got a lot of bit by the original. No. Yeah. While you're answering, so it looks like you're answering me, even though you were already going to say what you were going to say. I got a self-tape.

What's a self-date that you've got? Red. I got a self-tape for, we both got a self-tape for Babylon, which was the girl who cry, who pees. The girl who pees on a guy and then dies. Yeah. The line is like, the line is like, yeah.

How did you not book that? No. It should have been an offer, right? The line was like, It was like the audition was like, she pees on this guy, and then she goes like, you like, you like fat pig and then she overdoses. Oh my God. I don't really think. That was you at my Halloween party.

And like I've gotten an audition for a girl who gives a blow job and is immediately killed. Girl who gives a carhead and in my dad. In my slate, in my slate, I said, hi, my name is Sydney Heller. I was born for this role. That's funny. Every time I see those auditions come through, I think like I'm in a prank show and everyone's pranking me. Like, it kind of works, especially for your like headshots. Thank you. I've, well, I've looked ugly Midwestern bridesmaid. Like, I've booked that. That's crazy. Is it in it? Yes,

ugly Midwestern. Or are you just adding that? It's okay. Because the thing about it is everything is that. Is that what it was for? Or is this one you were in? We were cut from that. We were cut from the world. That's so funny. If it makes you feel any better, no one even knew this was a movie until just now. Yeah. Well, it was. Two and a half out of ten. No. No. 6% on Metacredit. It's famously bad. It's saved your finger. It's amazing.

We were cut from it. What does it say that from this movie that the editors knew was bad as they were editing it? They were like, what can we do to make it marginally better? They were like cut the two girls. You guys were in it. We were in it. We were pulled in it last minute to replace one girl. And who was that?

Let's name name. I don't know. Come on. I don't know. I actually don't know. All I know is that they didn't divil up the character names. They just had us. that character is named one and that character's name two.

That's funny. Does that say 4% on, yeah, Rotten Tomato? Yeah, one out of 50 for you. That means critics and people panned. 360 photos of our heads because they were like, sorry, yes. We took 360 photos of our heads with iPhones. They asked us to take 360 photos of our heads with iPhones so that they could blow us up. So they could digitally blow our heads up.

And then I was like, this will be perfect for my in-memorium. Yeah, I was pretty. And then we were cut from the movie. A bad epitaph. Did you watch the movie thinking? Oh, yeah. We did a movie. No, we didn't know.

No. We knew we were cut, but we did do a movie night with our Patriot. And would you say, were you one of the one of 25 people that gave it a fresh tomato? Were you yawning while you said that? Yeah. I think I have sort of a heartburn from the croissant. Or would you say it was an awful movie? Will you ever get like your scenes?

No, I fucking wish. I wish that they would just send us the head exploding. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the only thing I need. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And all of our lines were like, don't get your panties in a bunch, your pajamy panties

in a bunch. And it was like, that's nothing. That was really good. Yeah, thank you. And now that I see the two and a half out of ten, it's not like an average of one and three. It's like 33,000 people all gave it a two and a half. Universally. It's kind of awesome.

They all agreed it was two and a half. It's monoculture. Interesting. If you can all agree to hate something, it actually brings us together. And that's great. Sure. And I kind of wish I was that thing, sure. But not this time.

I like to bring people together through hating me. Yeah. I like to bring people together through having everyone paid to hang out with me. Do you guys wish you were different or you think this level of self-effacing negative, nasty, personal personality actually helps you with your success? Like, do you wish you were confident? No, you know what it is? I just have my bar is so. low, which I do think really helps.

No, I think it helps. So you do want it to be low. I'm happy with it being low. Because then. You like being this. When something goes wrong, I go like, absolutely it was going to. That can't hurt me because I'm so insecure. Before I got like this, I would be so devastated when everything went wrong.

Oh, so you weren't always like this. No, because we got beaten into this for sure, not by persons. Oh. But by circumstances. I mean, we saw the bruise. I'm obviously nervous. No, but like, yeah, before. Before this, before I was like this, I used to be so sad when things would go wrong.

Self-deprecating is what I'm trying to say. Like, you guys are self-deprecating, but almost to an extreme. Thank you. But you don't need to be this way unless you want to be this way. No, it's not about needing to be this way. It's just mostly like. It makes it easier. It makes it easier.

It makes it. But maybe it doesn't. Yeah, that's true. We could spend a week trying to feel good about ourselves. And I just talked every year. I'm so sorry. Oh, no. I've been doing it.

I've been doing it the whole time. I didn't notice because I don't notice when I'm talking. This is a weird fight. And being talked over is my part. Being talked over doesn't count because I don't notice when I'm talking. No, we have issues with emotional intimacy. Oh, for sure. For sure.

Like connecting with each other. What's the closest you'll let someone get to you? No, no. You know what it is? Answer his question. I'm really close with my... I have a handful of people I'm really close to. But then there's also certain things where it's like you just never want to...

Are you guys best friends or is this just that work? Oh, yeah. No, we are. People used to ask that when we were in college. We were like, you guys are pretending, right? You guys went to the same school? That's funny. We went to high school and college together.

Yeah. But what I mean by emotional intimacy things is like even though we love each other, we don't say I love you. No, it's very rare. It's rare for us to like be physically affectionate. I don't know. It just feels so nerve-wracking. Yeah, anyway. You're afraid of emotional intimacy, though.

I had a question about that. Yeah, sure. I'm afraid someone's going to like laugh at me. I'd be like, you. See? Yeah. Like I'm afraid if I'm like, hey, I really like, here's what it really is actually. I'm realizing it. I feel that if I say to you, like, hey, I love you, I'm worried that in her head, she's going to think, she didn't mean that. Oh, because I'm crazy. This is like so many. I'm like, I'm like I didn't sell it well enough. I'm not communicating like a human being well enough. I'm being too. Well, no, no. Neat day. No, no. I think I say about myself. I don't. I guess what I mean when I said that. I think what you're, but the thing that I think you're reading into is the fact that I don't trust that anyone would like me.

But I feel that way, I feel that way. The only way that'll ever change is if enough people are earnestly telling her that they love her. I just said I don't want to be here anymore. What the hell is wrong with you? I said I could go for another croissant. I feel the same way like in terms of like. I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah.

You started this thread. In a way. In a way. I've entered so many new spaces in my life where I show up as myself. When? Like high school, college, you show up as yourself and everyone's like, no, God, no. Don't be yourself. And then you have to, like, kind of charm everyone into liking you.

That's fun to me. It's once you are, like, already close that I'm like, you can have, I wear the first 90% of myself on my sleeve. And then that last 10% is reserved for, like, my girlfriend and my sister. I haven't even seen the last 10%. No. Unless you want to become his girlfriend or a sister. Sister could be really interesting.

I'm like super open. What about a mere James? Who says why? So when Bob Saggett died, one of the things that all of his friends said, not that it was like a huge Sagitt head. But he, all his friends were like, every time he said goodbye, he would say, I love you. So I started saying I love you to people that I like even. That you thought we're going to die. You've never said that to me.

I've said I love you. Actually, no, it felt so wrong just then, right? Maybe I just don't. No, it's. It's everybody younger than you. No, I've said it to Jake. Really? What about to these two?

Probably I did after Corey's birthday. We can start. I feel like that was when we became friends outside of just doing podcast episodes. Yeah, we have like a long chat. I know. I woke up halfway through Corey's birthday party and I wish I had woke up. What did you do the night before? Drink a lot.

Yeah, I believe so. Because you keep kind of. Or work really late, one of the two or both. What do you? Oh, about for the show? For something. There was some late night. Your birthday's not soon.

Uh-uh. Some. Do you guys come to my birthday at the, what's the fucking bar called? That one in the barrel. Idle hour. That's where I got roofied. Oh my God. Not at your birthday.

Not at your birthday. Okay. My birthday at Idol Hour. Still, Jesus. Yeah. I think that might have come to that. That's awesome. Yeah.

Just switching gears entirely. Wait, shut up a second. Do you guys go to my party? Do you guys go to my birthday? Because I don't remember one second. Dude, did you notice, by the way, as soon as we started talking about emotional intimacy, he put his sunglasses on. I really like that. It's a crutch and a goof.

I like it. Mostly a crutch. Yeah. No, but that's, you know, that's the thing is it's like when it's so clearly obvious that you are like, of course I love you. For some reason, it's hard. Yeah. I don't say either. I'm not coming from a place of accusations like you should say more.

I also grew up in a family, non-English-speaking family. So we didn't even say I love you and now I have a hard type of thing. Did you say I love you? No. I feel like the way I show love is like I try to be really like like actions based. Like I try to be. Show people you love them through. I'm a gift giver not because I'm like, oh, here's something expensive, but it's like, I like to put a lot of energy into something.

And then instead of having to present it in person with my emotions, be like, here's how I'm- You drop it off and tell them to open it later. It's like, here's how I feel it's in here. I would have assumed you guys were not avoidant. Yeah. Yeah. One day maybe. I think it's, yeah.

I would have assumed anxious for both of you. We come across very anxious. I do think we're anxious avoidance. I think we are, which is the worst one. Yeah. And that's everything. It is the worst one. Yeah.

No, you know what? Secure's the worst. Fuck off. It's boring. You know who is secure? Who? Jeremy Elder. I'm gonna say. Jeremy fucking Elder.

He is secure. Jeremy Elder is a secure person. You guys feel like you've gotten everything out to each other that you needed to get out? I think we did the New York Times 36 questions to fall in love ones for like content. Yeah. And it was incredibly uncomfortable. Good, good, good, good. And he still hasn't even said the L word to me.

If he hasn't called me a love. lesbian once. That sucks. You guys tell each other that you love each other. I have love for you. I'm in love with you, if that counts. Yay! No, I probably, we've known each other a long time.

Yeah, but you do love each other. Probably. Yeah. And that's good enough. Being earnest is hard. It's really hard. But there's an importance of being earnest. That's funny.

Yes, so true because of the play. And by the way, everybody's, we're on, yeah. Okay, do you guys want to promote something? Oh my God. Thank God. It's why I live. Follow me on Instagram and TikTok. I think that's it. I think that's it, right?

Patreon.com slash J.A. That's Jake and Amier Studios where we have a podcast called That's Funny, which you guys should come on. That's so down. And then that wasn't the thing we were on? No, that was on different one. That was called the HeadGum podcast. We had to change the name because now it's not on HeadGum anymore, but it's the same fucking show. And then we also do sketches, like produced out sketches or and social.

media sketches with bloopers and then they he and uh jake uh rewatch and do like director's commentary for old jake and ameers and hardly workings and stuff uh and their old vimeo tv show uh is on there so there's a lot of content oh also once a month if you pay 20 uh we do zoom parties which are uh you can get on zoom with me and him and sometimes our friend riley and we just hang out that is that's so fun i want to do that you should add that to your Is everyone just talking over each other? No, they're very polite. It's truly just like a hang.

And usually there's like, you know, even if there's like 50 people at that tier or something, usually only 20 to 30 show up. And not even all at the same time. So it's usually a good balance. And people are generally normal. Most people are. I love generally normal. And I also love absolutely abnormal.

Right. Well, there's usually, you know, one or two. Yeah. I love what. Sweating. I love something on my body is abnormal. Oh, I love when my results are abnormal. Anyway, thank you guys so much for being.

Thank you for having us. Absolutely, of course. Thank you guys. That would have been worse if that's how he responded to him. Oh, totally. Oh, fucking totally. Yeah. Tick-Tock.

Was it? Put her there. And you guys are those two people who got cut from a war of the world, right? Yep, that's us. Those disorganized attached. Big ass head. Oh, man. Thank you so much.

Namaste. Thanks for having us. Our Patreon also, if you guys want to go check it out, it's $5 a month. It's our Patreon. It's got episodes uncut, early and uncensored, and we also do other fun stuff. We do movie nights, and we do crazy shit. And if you don't want to be there, we understand. That's okay, too, guys.

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