Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - Josh Peck Pushed THE BUTTON! 💥

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

THE Josh Peck of Drake and Josh AND Oppenheimer is here on the big bad podcast for you this week! Josh Peck https://www.youtube.com/joshpeck Remember these episodes now go up a few days early... AND with bonus content on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/syd_and_olivia Listen to the show on the go! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2j0iQxY9Pf0h4mXEOFxgmk?si=a95ba3e2a2844ec4 Chapters 00:00 | Intro 00:31 | Welcome Josh Peck! 01:51 | Drake & Josh The Bush & Cheney of Nickelodeon 03:49 | Adrien Brody’s Art 06:09 | What Academy Award Winner Would We Share A Soup With 10:28 | Dream Reality Show To Be On 16:16 | Hitting Oprah With Your Car 20:43 | The Great Writers Of Jake & Josh 23:23 | The Aluminum Monster 26:36 | Telling Your Past Self It's Going To Be Fine 33:16 | Acting In Oppenheimer and Shame Waves 39:47 | Unable To C*m On Wellbutrin!? 45:51 | Great Advice From Great Grandma’s 48:33 | Weird Auditions (This Isn’t Hamlet) 55:00 | Josh Peck Eats Food Wrong 56:24 | Where To Find Josh Peck This is a 7equis Network Show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Remember the episode where you hit Oprah with your car? Sure. How the fuck did you guys get away with that? I don't know. I know we don't have her permission. A hundred percent, we don't. And one day when I meet her, it will have to happen because God exists. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I will say, I'm so sorry. Yeah. I'm so sorry. I brutalized you with my vehicle with my Honda Accord or whatever it was. Like it's a great. Could have been a camera. Welcome to the big bad podcast for you on the Sid one. I'm the Olivia one.
Starting point is 00:00:38 And together we're Sid and Olivia and we talk some shit in this. This is an Olivia Talks. Thank you for listening to Podcast. Today we have a very special other one. It's very exciting. Guys, we're freaking out. This is, like, actually one of the coolest things ever. Yeah, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I feel like on this podcast, we're able to accomplish so many childhood dreams. Yes, I'm, yes, 100%. And it's, like, essentially our Make a Wish Foundation, and I love that. So today we have someone who is, like, wildly kind for being here and almost like, ah, you shouldn't be here. I'm sorry. Someone who will have a lot of good karma in the future. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 You guys, it's the one and only Josh Peck. Wow. God bless you. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Josh Peck, what the heck? What's going on? How are you?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Why are you here, dude? You guys cold emailed me. Yeah, is that crazy? Yeah, I responded. Who does that? Dude, you know you're past that. You don't have to. Yes, I know.
Starting point is 00:01:34 But I have a scarcity complex. Oh, fair. I'm always afraid it's all going to go away. That's awesome. Where does that come from, do you think? Everything. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's absolutely fair.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Yeah, but I like to support the pod community and you guys have a great pot. Thank you so much. Enjoy the clips. Oh, thank you so much. You know, you're like one half of one of the, I would say original duos, but that seems kind of crazy, right? Here's what it is. It's like, in our generation, like the original comedy duos were like Keenan and
Starting point is 00:02:06 and then on an odd couple TV level, you guys. Yeah. And it was the first thing we saw that was like, I don't know, just like, oh, I want to do that. Like, I want to be like that kind of a thing. Like, like, and how did you fucking do it so well as a kid? Like, you were just, you guys just crushed it. I don't know. It's had some good shelf life.
Starting point is 00:02:30 But I agree. We are a duo. We are, it's like, yeah, Kenan and Cal, Bush and Cheney, Drake and Jobs. Obviously Bush and Cheney throw that in the back. And Bush and Cheney, I looked up to so much and I wanted to be Cheney because I wanted to shoot someone. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And I still haven't yet. And I wanted to be Bush because art projects. Yeah, but they both had... You could have said something worse. They've also, they've had like a nice sort of afterglow. Like, they walked away and everyone's pretty warm about the both of them. Yeah, we've seen so much worse since then. Oh, there's so many worse things.
Starting point is 00:03:02 That we're like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, Bush's just doing his art. Yeah, he's just painting dogs. Yeah, what's his medium? I think he's watercolor vibes. Is it? It's either watercolor or oil paintings.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Can we look that up? He's like, I use ketchup. Yeah, he's got ketchup and I make dogs. I like condiment. Yeah, yeah. He paints with condiments. You know, I think more people who want to lead countries should just turn to art and commit to it.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Right. Commit to the art and just be like, it's actually the, look at that. Wow, he did Putin He's not, no, that's, yeah, that's Wow, wait, what? Did he do Putin? It looks like Putin. Wait, for real?
Starting point is 00:03:43 These are all, these are like Vanco-esque. Wait, he's pretty good. Your Rembrandt. You guys, have you seen Adrian Brody's art? No. Oh, pull that up. Okay, Adrian Brody's art is like kind of nuts. It's like him kind of trying to do this Warhol-esque thing
Starting point is 00:04:00 where he's like, look at Starbucks, but it's like, It's so strange. And people are like really giving him a platform for this and me too right now. And I am really giving him a platform. I am personally giving a platform. Is that the Starbucks mermaid with two guns to her head? Respect. Respect. Yeah, but I just feel like we've seen like Mr. Brainwash did this, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We've seen this. We have seen it. But people have been going nuts for it in a way that's kind of silly because it's like, come on. And don't let him have all this. It's just Marilyn Monroe with Xanax on her forehead. Yeah. It says Xanax. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah, yeah. It is. I mean, listen, if somebody gifted this to me, I would take it. Oh, yeah. For sure, 100%. Yeah. But it's just like so silly. No, I would take most things if someone gifted it to me.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Right. And anything, yeah, anything I'm a scarce to be. He gives you, you got to accept it. Oh, 100%. Do you watch his videos of him on Instagram that he posts? He's just like, hey, y'all. What's up, y'all? Just walking through the city.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'm like, talk. I mean, he's a brilliant actor, but it's fascinating. Yeah, pulling up. I love it. It just makes you upset because I, like, worked so hard on my shit, and then he gets, like, millions of views, and I'm like, I'm so jealous. He's a great actor, man.
Starting point is 00:05:21 She's 375,000 likes of people of fucking coronary. I can't handle this. He's just talking. He looks great. He looks good. I was so sorry. Are you patient? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:35 How are you doing? I'm so good. I was about to leave an Instagram message, smiling everybody. Hi. How are you? Hey, how you doing? Hey, what's up? How's it going?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Hey, what's happening? It's so funny. It's like he's another one of those people. I'm like, Adrian Brody, I think you don't know how famous you are. If you're posting videos being like, I'm on the street and I'm just like doing my thing. I'm like, but you're also Adrian Brody. You just won an Academy Award. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Twice. Yeah. Oh, man. Wow. It's so good. I love me. Who do you think would be the most approachable Academy Award winner? Like, you could just bro down with.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Oh, I don't know. Jamie Lee Curtis? Oh, I would love to broodown with Jamie Lee Curtis. She'd be a fun home. She would be a great brodown. You could go to a soup plantation. Yes. Yeah, you could share a dessert with Jamie Lee Curtis.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Would you share a soup with Jamie Lee Curtis? What kind of soup? What is she souping? And that's intimate. Sharing a soup is like one of the most intimate things you can do with someone. Yeah. I think I would share a chowder. Say more. I feel full chowder. I just think like I trust her enough to have clam chowder with her. And I think that's a really intimate experience.
Starting point is 00:06:48 With or without a bread bowl? Bread bowl, bread bowl, because then we're getting more hands in the picture. That's really intimate. And I really trust her. Yeah. And I trust her germs. Well, if she ever comes on the podcast, maybe we can all share. They're a bread bowl of clam chowder with her.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I planted the seed. Here's my beef with bread bowls, and I don't mean to be controversial. No, you're okay. People treat it as purely ornamental, but I want to get in there, right? Like, I want to break down the bull. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And I feel like I should be allowed. Yeah. But if you start breaking down your soup bread bowl in front of people in public, they're going to say, this guy never met his dad. Like something, something's, But like, it's very relatable.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Like, the bread bowl is not ornamental. It's there for a reason. It's there for purpose. The problem is it's also there to keep the soup in. So you can't enjoy the bread in tandem with the soup as much as you like to. Right. Yeah. When they give you the top, you can enjoy the top first.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. But you can't really do it in tandem as much as you should be able to. Because then your facility, then your thing for the soup is gone. Then you get asked to leave. The chowder side. The chowder silo. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I feel similarly about a toastata salad. Oh, yeah. Love a toastata salad. Crazy for him. Crazy. Incredible. Want to take all the chip apart. But that's the thing that's holding the lettuce.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Have you ever tried eating it in one bite? Wait, so true. A to stata. One bite? Yeah. Or a breadball. No, but. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Have you ever checked? Because that could totally work. How long's a pod? Yeah. Some bread bowl. Try to eat it in one bite. Yeah. That's pretty.
Starting point is 00:08:31 amazing. I've been eating more El Pollo Loco lately. I'm just going to say it here. And I get the Tosata salad double protein. Nice. They had a mango habanero chicken delish. Got rid of it. For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? They got rid of it. It was a great thing. It was a great thing. And I always would get the salad and be like, I'm just going to do like a little garnish of like, I'm not going to eat the bowl. It's crazy. And I crush the whole thing. Yeah, as you should. It's so good. Yeah, yeah. As you should. Can't say no. I eat the plastic bowl. You need plastic bowl because I'm trying to get more microplastics in my brain. You're macroplastic. Yeah, I'm macro plastic. Yeah, I'm counting my macros.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You know how they're all plastic. Everyone dies. I was supposed to say everyone is born with. You know how everyone dies? You know how everyone dies? I've just been reckoning with that. Everyone dies with like a big like quarter-sized piece of plastic in their brains. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 What do you guys want the shape to be? Ooh. A lightning bolt. Like Aladdin's sane. Or like Tom Sandoval. Or like Tom Sandoval. And the coroner can pick who it reminds them of. You!
Starting point is 00:09:34 Like in the shape of Tom Sandoval? No, Tom Sandoval. He wears a lightning bolt. He wears a lightning bolt when he had an affair with Rekyll. It's a whole thing. Where is Raquel? Where's Rale? She's doing soundboggling.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Good. Good. She needs it. She's good. I was really worried for her. Yeah. She's doing sound baths. She has a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:09:56 She's doing okay. She does cameos. Arianamatics is literally hosting Love Island. Everyone's fine. Everyone's okay. Everyone's fine. Is she the official host of Love Island? Oh, yeah. Of U.S. It's a good gig. I know, right? Solid gig. Yeah, seriously. Do you watch Love Island?
Starting point is 00:10:09 My wife does. I know I should be. I don't. We do a fantasy Love Island bracket on this show where it's like we make a bunch of characters who should never be on Love Island be in a season of Love Island. So it's like the AMPN mascot, Tungis and like RFK's brainworm and a bunch of like Islanders. There's been a lot of deaths. This season, yeah. This season, there's been a lot of deaths. What would be, if you could be on any reality show, what? Would it be Love Island? What would be the dream?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Oh, God. Love Island, here's the thing, is that it's like on one level, of course, because I would love to be in that villa and just be able to do nothing for a long time. It would kind of be like being in the hospital. Like, when my appendix burst, I was very happy because I was like, no one expects anything of me right now. It's the best. And I feel like it would feel similar. But I don't, I wouldn't, I don't know. I would want to be on like an un-televised Love Island, but that's not real.
Starting point is 00:11:00 What? It's hard. It's like I kind of think Golden Bachelor. Oh, yeah. And my reason why is I love an old lady. Like old ladies are like my ideal friend. Like I love a woman over like 70 or 80. Like that's my sweet spot.
Starting point is 00:11:16 So would you be there as you or in the future? No, just me. Just me. So you now. Yeah. So that could be really controversial if the Golden Bachelor picks you. Well, he's not going to pick me. He probably will.
Starting point is 00:11:27 He literally won't. I am so unfeeling. So Says who? I'm just gonna, I think he's gonna pick you No, he won't. But if you think about it, you're 30 and everyone there is at least Yeah, he's got like, you know, 55 and up community.
Starting point is 00:11:40 The end shore girls are over there and then, you know, but I dress like I'm a child from the sandlot. He's going to like him. He's a golden bachelor. No, no, he's not going to pick me, you guys. I'm not asking for this. This is not what I was asking for. We can't get away from it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I can't control what he does. Come on. Squints. No, you guys. Come on. Spins. Come on. We're back for the big game.
Starting point is 00:12:04 No, you guys, here's the thing. Is he's, he, he's going to have like this field of like gorgeous elderly women. But you feel that way. Because you love elderly women. He's going to go with you. He's not a good guy. He's not a good guy. No, he's not a good guy.
Starting point is 00:12:20 No, they never pick a good guy. It's the golden bachelor. It's the bachelor. Yeah, but they, but the older people who are submitted are. Sweet. Yes. Okay. So what you should do is you should be on one of those like girls trips, you know, kind of shows where they take all the favorites from Golden Bachelor. That's not the romantic competition and you just go to like a summer house with them. Yeah. That doesn't exist though. No, it can. Like a Bachelor in Paradise, Golden Bachelor and Paradise. Yes, exactly. But maybe I'll just be the wells. I'll be doing drinks and being like, girl, talk to me. Talk to me about your sciatica. Like, that's fun. Syedica's hot. Trash that. Fiatica's hot.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Nerve pain in general. Fibromyalgia. Hot. You should, I feel like you should just like go work on like a movie like the book club or 80 for Brady. Dude, I would. That's your end game. Listen, I would.
Starting point is 00:13:10 There's no LinkedIn job post for that. But I would. That's you. Go produce one. Go write one. Notie. I would just like fucking PA. I would go to a truly just in old folks home and hang.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. Yeah. I was so mad when my Zeta died because right. before we had put him in an old folks home. And I met this woman down the, like down the hallway from him. You guys became best friends. And she was fucking sick. And I like went into her room and we were just chatting.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And she was like, I'm so glad your Zeta moved in because now we'll hang all the time. I was like, oh my God, truly all the time. Like you're the best. Leave. He dies. And now I'm like, now I don't have a reason to go there. Right. You could always just hold her to her word.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You could always hold her accountable for her words. What? She said now we get to hang out all the time. You can always say, wow. But they're not going to let me in. I can't get a visitor pass now. You can hold them accountable for her words. What?
Starting point is 00:14:06 They need this. Hold the old folks home accountable for that woman's words and say, listen. I didn't choose this. But she said we're going to hang out all the time. Puppies help old dogs. You never heard of that theory? Wait, I'm sorry? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Yeah, puppies do help old dogs. You have an old dog on his last couple legs. This is true. Two or three. She get the new puppy first this way. You circumvent the sadness that is impending, right? And he makes it lively for good old Gus. No, they actually say that older dogs like the stym in a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah. I always knew that like people would get like, you know, like puppies when they have like an older dog. But I thought it was, I thought it was the first thing of they were just being like, ah, we're going to like listen the blow. Yeah, the impending doom. The impending doom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I didn't realize it was also for the benefit of the older dog. Totally. Yeah. It makes the older dog live longer because the older. dog goes like, oh, I need to like, you know, stick around and make sure that this dog's okay because it's a puppy. Whoa. Which is fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And maybe you could do that for humans. That's going to be the final season of sex in the city. They bring in little versions of them. Or new guys. They help them live longer. That's like so scary. They bring in cloned younger versions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Well, because, you know, you can clone your dog now if you're super rich. Yes. And I knew I knew someone who was thinking about doing this, but then decided not to, because We knew someone who cloned a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did. Did they go through with it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Okay, okay. Because the thing about it is they can't control how many copies of that dog they make. Copies? Yeah. They can't control how many dogs the clone becomes. It becomes, it's like, you know, when you do like IVF, like you'll get a multi. Mad eggs. Mad eggs.
Starting point is 00:15:50 There's chances for mad eggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like. You'll get mad eggs. Mad eggs. is chances for mad dog 2020. Like a litter. So you could have like a litter of like...
Starting point is 00:16:01 And then you pick which one is most similar to the dog or you get all of them. What do you do with the other copies? You either, they either go get adopted or I don't know or you take all of them. Write a sitcom. Yeah, you write a sitcom. You write a sitcom with them. A bunch of clown dogs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Speaking of sitcoms, can I just ask you a really quick question? Yeah. We're not doing that. I said, yeah, like it was to me. Yeah. Ask me. Yeah. Fire away. I'm so sorry
Starting point is 00:16:26 You probably get this all the time Because you're like everyone's always like Remember that episode where Remember how you were Josh Remember how you were Josh and I was a kid And I was like this is the best thing I've ever seen So remember in Drake and Josh Remember the episode where you hit Oprah
Starting point is 00:16:40 With your car? How the fuck did you guys get away with that? I don't know I know we don't have her permission 100% we don't And one day when I meet her It will have to happen because God exists I will say I'm so sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I'm so sorry I brutalized you with my vehicle with my Honda Accord or whatever it was. Like it could have been a Camry. Could have been a Camry. Maybe. It's a great episode and it like it like is so perfect for that character because it's like, oh, he loves this person. He idolizes this person. Now let's make the worst thing happen. But I always had the thought.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I think even at the time when I was a kid, I was like, how are they getting away with this? I have no idea. We had a double. We had an Oprah double. It's so good. A non-sanctioned Oprah double. And she was a stunt lady because she did do the roll over the car. And I was like, Oprah's going to come after you.
Starting point is 00:17:28 She's powerful. The casting for the non-sanctioned Oprah double is so funny. Non-sanctioned Oprah double is also my band. Yeah, I do that about you. That's hot. That's so funny. Yeah, no. I was always obsessed with, like, we feel like this happens a lot to us in real life.
Starting point is 00:17:46 We're like there's that bit where you tell the mailman to have a good day. Like, don't tell me what to do. And we feel like that happens. constantly in real life. And that was the first time as a child that we were ever like, yeah, that's a thing. Yeah. I actually referenced that often in my adult life.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Have a good day. Don't tell me what to do. I reference that all the time. Yeah, cool. Because it happens all the time because people are ill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:08 It's so true. Yeah. Did you guys know you were cooking? Didn't you guys, when you were like making that show where you're like, we know this is really fucking good. Yeah. No. No?
Starting point is 00:18:17 We knew it was good. I knew that it was my favorite kind of comedy because I love. Keenan and Cal. Yeah. And I loved all that. And those shows like, and all those other like Fresh Prince of Bel Air and like all those great 90s sitcoms. Yeah. And so it felt really good to be broad and to be encouraged to go for the big funny. Yeah. So all of that felt great. But the show to its credit has only like grown into this thing, which at the time we were making it, it was a kid show on a kid's channel. So it didn't quite like, it wasn't until my
Starting point is 00:18:51 mid-20s and early 30s where people were like, you know what this means to us. And I was like, now I do. Yeah, because all those people have grown up a little bit. Yeah. Like adults now. When I was 17, I was like, like, you know, 10-year-olds were watching it. So I didn't really, like, up until I was like 25, I was pretty much like under the radar. And then something happened.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It might have been just social media. But and then all of a sudden I was like, oh, this is a part of pop culture. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Like a huge part. Yeah. And also it was like,
Starting point is 00:19:21 One of those things where, especially like as a young person who was interested in comedy, having like a show meant for kids that was actually hard funny and not like funny for kids, but just funny, was like huge. Yeah. Like something that like I could be like, oh, I can see like actually what a joke is. Whereas like there are other kids shows where it's like, oh, this was dumbed down for children in a way. And you can tell when you're a kid. You're like, okay, this is like, you know, and then you kind of get cynical about like stuff that's for you.
Starting point is 00:19:51 you, but like, yeah, no, it just made you feel like as a kid. You're like, oh, yeah. Like, the performers, like, everyone here's like, we all get that we're like, you know, they respect us as people as kids because it's like they're just actually being funny. And you specifically, too, like, I remember being a kid and looking at everything you did performance-wise and just being like, oh, you can actually be so fucking funny by just being really well-intentioned and upset. You know, which is when in our sketches, which I feel like my.
Starting point is 00:20:21 character ends up doing a lot of just like being really like I'm trying really hard and I'm just really fucking upset and overwhelmed. And you do that so well and it's so fucking funny. And I was just definitely one of the first things ever that like I consciously clocked as like a child and was like, that's fucking funny. So good job being funny. No, thank you. I think I think you make a great point And I think we got to like a time in comedy where like everyone had to be super like snarky and kind of shitty and smug. And it's like to your point, first of all, it's endearing as hell when someone's like just trying their best. Yeah, yeah. And like and then also when you can play, someone once said it to me.
Starting point is 00:21:03 He was like if it's written broad, play it small and vice versa. Like and if it's written small, be broad. And so like when you're really trying and honest, it can be those hysterical moments. 100%. And I think they did. this writer Steve Milaro, another guy, Steve Holland and Anthony Del Brocolo, like brilliant guys who wrote on the show, they're all like, write for Chuck Lorry, have their own shows.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's amazing to see like, oh, as baby, like, we got these baby writers and they became like these hard-hitting sitcom, badass writers. And then I think they did a really good job of like, they made it really even, right? Like Drake was cool as hell and musical, but like not the smartest. the show and like and my character was super bright and and funny but you know not cool and kind of psychopathic with Oprah and things you know so it was interesting it was great it was like they really switched off like there were times when one of you was like the straight man one of you was the person who's like crazy and then vice versa it was never just like this is always this
Starting point is 00:22:09 yeah which also totally inspired us to do you know like like we we do so much I don't know I think it's so fun and it's like it's always sunny as another show like that where it's like people switch off being the straight man and there are types of shows where it's like okay this person is always reacting to this person but it's just so fun and I feel like it deepens the characters so much when like you can switch off and be like no you're fucking crazy now no you're you know like yeah you guys just did it so well and yeah just what you were saying about like the honesty of where you are coming from performance wise it just elevated the comedy so fucking much and made it so funny it was also a really simple idea that I think people could relate to, that it was just about a family, right,
Starting point is 00:22:48 trying to figure it out and, you know, an evil little sister and like a mom and dad who are remarried and it's this new family. Like a lot of people can relate. I feel like a lot of kids shows are, you know, sometimes they're more broad, right? Like the idea is they're wizards or no shade on wizards of a way. No, no, love it. Shout out. Shout out Selena. Love you. But you know what I mean? with high concept versus low concept. Yeah, it's just like typical family stuff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, totally. Yeah. No, and like, yeah, it was just, it was just the dynamics were so good. You guys just crushed. Look at you guys. Come on. It was the best. How did you guys, when you guys met, you guys met in high school?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yes. And did you, were you immediately like, you're my person. So we met on an improv team. Enough to say less. Yeah. So you were the cool girls. Yeah. Got it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Okay. Got it. Okay. Got it. One of you had a scoliosis brace. Got it. Did you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Wow, I've got a touch of the skull. Really? Is it part of being Jewish? Did I just say that? Oh, no. Just what we need. One more out there. It might be.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Here's the thing is I don't know. Okay. Oh, sorry. Why do I just apologize? I'm like, I think you should do it more. Sorry, because I'm losing it. When you said I have a touch of the skull, I immediately was like, oh, let me feel.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I definitely do. She had a scoliosis brace and skunk highlights when she was a preteen. Thanks. And I was, well, I'm going to out myself too. And I had lice and I was. But not in high school. In high school, you were cute. Well, but I was bullied very hard for being less than small when I was a child.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And so it's always going to be in there. You know, like it happened. And so we were never and our souls weren't fuckable either. And they still aren't. In fact, not at all. The skullios just fix itself? No. So it's, I had the big plastic brace underneath my clothes and somebody would give me a hug and go like, ew!
Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, no. Yeah. I grew up with an exoskeleton being like, if a boy hugs me, they're going to be scared. Mm-hmm. I would be in the changing room, like the locker room for like PE, and everyone would look over and go like, oh my God, that's disgusting. That was how I was like, great. This is sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You just hear in the corner, like, psh, push, push. Yeah. Yes. And it literally was like Terminator. And there's Velcro. The motor's valkro. For sure. The most upsetting thing about it, too, is that I was a freshman and she was a sophomore.
Starting point is 00:25:26 So to me, I was like, that's so cool that she has a scoliosis brace. Yes. Yeah. Because I was like, even, yeah. But every other person was like, that's disgusting. I was like, totally. I had to, like, take it off before play practice because I couldn't move. And my theater teacher would be like, that's okay, I'll get my meds from the car and you can put your scoliosis brace in my car and we'll like just chat. And I was like, absolutely. So maybe that's where I got starting to be friends with older ladies from. But also your grandma. But also my grandma. But yeah, it's just like it is one of those things that we were like totally unfuckable. Yeah. We were on a team full of people who some, it was really a range. There were some like stoner kids who were cool who were on the improv team. Yeah. Like I don't give a fuck. There were like some really like nerdy people.
Starting point is 00:26:11 people. Yeah. Yeah. Super rain. It was good. It was, it was, there was a lot of range. Yeah. And it was like, some people were fuckable. Oh, totally. And to this day, are. Yeah, absolutely. Crazy. And we, uh, it was really fun. We were never put on the same like team together like in scenes because then nobody would be able to talk. I'm sorry. You're probably experiencing that right now. No, no. Is it like, would you do the whole like I got your back? Yes. Yes. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Is it, um, man, isn't it interesting? Like at what age do you think? And maybe we're not there yet. I don't even know if I'm there yet. Because, like, we, you know, you talked about, like, being less and small. Clearly, I, you know, my, my awkward teenage years are in reruns and your scoliosis breaks. Like, at what point did you go? Was it at 25, 28 where you were like, oh, I wish I could tell 15-year-old me. Just like, it's going to be fine. I know, right.
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's not the end of the world. But it has to be at that age. I know. Because everything is so elevated. And, like, oh, God, like, I wish I could have loved that kid more. Yeah. He was so well-intentioned. Of course.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And also like- And he was great. Yeah. He was amazing. We were all great. We were all great. And it's also, but it's that thing of like, it gives you a personality. Like, you know, you move through life.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I don't know what it would have felt like to grow up good looking. Like, to grow up like good looking to other kids. Not to adult. Please. I don't know what that would have been like. Like, I don't know if now I would be like maybe a worse version of my. I always thought you were so beautiful and hot and that everyone thought so. So it is all in the eye of the beholder. But it is that thing of not feeling it yourself, like not feeling that way. Yeah. And like, and also it's like, regardless of if anyone, I don't know if anyone thought it, no one was saying it to me. No one was trying to kiss me on the lips. And I was trying.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah. Were you? Yeah. Putting myself out there and people were like, I'm okay. Yeah. So I think like, you know, from that, you grow up and then you go like, okay, well, maybe I got elements of my personality from that that that I wouldn't have. have otherwise. Yeah, you get that one. Oh, 100%. And I also, like, my mom would say to me when I was a kid, she's like, you're gorgeous. You're just overweight. Like, like, that's so parent of that generation. Yeah. It's so, like, real. She was like, but you're gorgeous. Like, and like, and, yeah, you're heavy. And like, I was like, yeah, I am. Like, there's no refuting it. This is not puppy weight. Like, I'm, like, I'm in the dog section of Sierra. I'm in the Hoskis.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You're gorgeous. You're just overweight. Yeah. And then, but like, thankfully, then when I lost some weight and I was like, okay, yeah, like, for an average guy, like, I'm nice looking, like, for an average human. Like, I'm okay for a good. You're very handsome, gosh, what you're talking about. Well, God bless you both. I was told by doctors at 10, like, she's got to start going to the gym and lying and saying she's 12.
Starting point is 00:29:07 So it's like, fuck all of that. Like, fuck all of it. Fuck it all. Like, say more about that. Like, how did, because I was thinking about this earlier, how doctors. It's so, doctors are the most fatphobic people in the entire world. Say more. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It's crazy. Because I did kid acting for a second, like very briefly. And it never, it was so weird because the kid acting, like, when I would go out for parts that are like, oh, she's, you know, on the bigger side, she's awkward, whatever. Like, I would always kind of be like, that's fine because this character's funny. And it never felt bad or weird, but it was literally like doctors and people at school, like my friends and people who would just, like other people's moms. It's so weird how people will just, and then when I lost weight, people started treating me so much better. And that was the worst part. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Like, like, it was like the bullying and stuff that happened, like, sure, that happened. Yeah. But like when you actually lose the weight and like other people's moms start going like, Olivia, you. you look amazing. So what are you, what are you like doing? What are you into? And like, take interest in you as a human being for the very first time. And you clock it because you're like, I'm in eighth grade. I'm not stupid. Like, it's really, it tells you something for the rest of your life. That's like, you can look however you want, but people will treat you a certain way. And like, and like when my appendix burst, I lost a bunch of weight and everyone around me was like,
Starting point is 00:30:30 whatever you're doing, keep doing. My organs are failing. You know what I mean? Like, still have. It's like, I'll get sepsis again. Yeah. It's just so, it's so like. there's such a focus on it and it is so societally fucked and doctors are really like pediatricians. If you're a pediatrician watching this, please. No pediatricians are watching this. No one for the medical degree is watching this. Don't.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Chiropractice. Don't, yeah, maybe some kind of. Don't give kids of horrible mental shit by telling them that their bodies are wrong. Like, don't do that. It's not nice. I remember, I thought of this memory recently in New York. I grew up in New York until I was 14. So I remember I had like this old school New York pediatrician who like literally was like
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'm putting you on cholesterol meds at 12. Oh my God. Oh like was so, you know, inspired so much fear. Yeah. And just like wanted to scare the hell out of me to like lose weight now. Yes. And I'll never forget. I went to, you know there's the actors clinic in L.A. in Toluca Lake.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And it's like if you're with Screen Actors Guild and you have their medical insurance, they have like a place where you don't have to even fill out paperwork. They're just like, you're inside. Come on in. Get a physical. Wow. And I remember I had my doctor there who I had from 15 to 31 until he left the practice. I'm like, I don't care if you're pediatrician. I love you. Yeah. And it was 15. I was like at my biggest. And I would go in and I would always, my heart would drop whenever I would have to go to to a physical. And he just said, you like, you like to play sports or anything? And I said, yeah, actually, I eat a lot. But, like, I am active. Like, I play hockey with my buddies every day. And, you know, I'm, yeah, I love, I love to play sports. I just eat a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And he was like, great, just like, keep playing sports. And that was it. That's amazing. And I, like, it was so kind. I'm just like, just stay active and, and I'll put you on an Olympic at 30, you know, or whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, but it was like, what am I going to do to this 15-year-old and that's not going to rock his world, but gently guide him towards healthy habit. It's a kid. And also like so much of, for me personally, anytime I'm like binging like food, it's coming from an emotional thing.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And like the idea of telling a kid like, oh, there's something wrong with you or like you're doing something wrong or putting that extra pressure, that extra judgment on it, it's not going to make them do anything psychologically healthy. Like if they do lose weight, it's not going to be in a healthy way. if they don't lose weight. It's like you're putting, you're fucking with people's heads and then that is going to make them
Starting point is 00:33:07 have a worse relationship with food because then you're involving shame and then once that's like in the picture like everyone's fucked. Yeah, totally. Ugh. Yeah. Shame is so hot.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Shame is crazy. Oh my gosh. Shame waves? Oh yeah. Cydell. Shamed. Shamed. Our band?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Shaming. Shame waves. Shame waves is a good band. Okay. What kind of music is it? It's definitely got a keyboard. Yeah. Yeah, it's God with the keyboard that's turned up way too low.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, that's so perfect, you guys. Shame waves. I love that. I think we're going to perform at Coachella. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this upcoming Coachella, shame waves. I'm available to rehearse.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah, yeah, we're going to do it. Well, I mean, obviously, I don't want to focus too much on Drake and Josh. Obviously, you were literally in Academy Award-winning film Ophine. Yeah, what was that? Like, that is the most diverse acting reel. Wasn't that? Kind of insane. It's crazy
Starting point is 00:34:02 How was that? It was great I mean When I was 16 I did this movie Mean Creek Which is that clip they always show
Starting point is 00:34:10 of me cursing people out on the boat Yes yes yes yes yes yes Yes and that like It's a good clip It's a good movie And that was like It won Sundance
Starting point is 00:34:19 And it was like The first thing I did at 16 That was different than Drake and Josh That I was like I really like this And then I did this movie The Wackness
Starting point is 00:34:27 With Ben Kingsley And Method Man And all these cool people And that one, Sundance. And it was like another one of those things where I was like, yeah, man, if I can just have a variety of things. So throughout like it just, you know, none of it was as big as Drake and Josh, probably nothing I do will be as big. So it didn't quite break through. And then something like Oppenheimer comes around and I'm like, oh, this is what I love.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And people are like, this doesn't make sense. I'm like, you're probably right. But it was so good. I mean, I auditioned and I did this monologue that was part of the, you know, I did this monologue that was part of the audition scenes and I waited like two and a half months and my agent every two weeks was like Nolan likes you. I'm like, word. And she's like, yeah, like he likes you like you're being considered. And then like two and a half months it took to finally get and I got the part and I was it's an extremely small part but I was there for two months. But also an important part. No, it's a
Starting point is 00:35:24 huge part because you press the button. Yeah. You pressed the button in Oppenheimer. Yeah. Do you feel bad? Yeah. Yeah. Fair, fair, fair. Feel really good. Shame wave. I do.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Shame wave. Shame wave. Yeah. It's literal. It's, um, yeah, when you found out, you were going to press the button where you're like, oh, fuck, what am I going to do? It's, the whole thing is, was just a wild, like, they're like, you got it, you're going. And I was like, okay, great.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And then what, to his, to Nolan's credit, like, you don't feel like, you know, a day player on his movies. Like you go in and you like meet with wardrobe and you're like and you're playing a real person. So you go through everything in just a smaller way that like Killian or whomever is like the big actors in the movie have to go through and you're like doing the research and you're like really there. And you're like, yeah, I have three lines. But like this matters to him. And then you see the set and the team that Nolan puts together like from the guy who's screwing in a light bulb to the person who's like everyone's like this matters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Because you know how it is. Like, we all do shit where we're like, I'm going to try my best, but the ceiling for this is a seven. Yes, 100% would. Even if this is incredible, it's only going to be so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With this, you're like, oh, this could be great. Yeah. So, like, God, I'm going to do everything I can.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And you're watching Christopher Nolan walk around on set for 14 hours, never sitting completely in it. Yeah. And, like, no phone, just like, he cares. You're like, I want to care too. Yeah. I want Daddy Nolan to love me. Yeah. So the judges at the end, my like fake uncle who like has, I've known him since I was born and he like was friends with both my parents.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Like he's like my uncle who's not my uncle. Sure. He was one of the judges and has like a line and all those judges have a group chat. Yeah. Which is just beautiful. And like multiple of them are like Tony Award winners, which is just like me like and it's just but like they had he had a similar experience of just like everyone just being so in. it's just cool that, yeah, just across the board. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I talked about this on my pod, but I, we have an op-and-homeous group chat. Oh, that's so good. Right? Which was like all of us, you know, all of us like who play the scientists and so there's probably like 20 people in it. And I'll never forget when we finish filming, I was so nervous because when you do a small part, like you guys know, you could get cut out. 100%. Oh, all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Right? I've been cut out. All the time. Yeah. And I'm like, and it would be through no one's fault other than like if you don't serve the bigger picture, you've got to go. 100%. Got it. I'm so fragile that I respectfully, I wrote everyone on the group chat.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I said, I'm going to be bidding you all at due. When we finished the movie, I had to leave the group chat. Because the group chat was instigating. I know I'm fucked up. No, it's not. It's really sweet. I couldn't. Because it was like, I know.
Starting point is 00:38:28 not going to see this for a year. I cannot be reminded of this experience for a year. Yeah. I can't be like, will I, will I will. Yeah. No, I understand that completely. Because in your head, you're also coming from the point of view of like, they're for sure going to cut it. Because of like past experiences and like negativity about ourselves and all that. And being like, oh, when I was there, I did this thing slightly wrong. And I'm sure that that means that you get. So you're overthinking it and you're like, oh, I'm for sure getting cut. So you don't want that reminder every day. So I 100% understand being like, guys, it's been real. Yeah, because the group chat was started for groceries, right?
Starting point is 00:39:02 Like, while we're all there, it'd be like, hey, I'm doing a Trader Joe's run. Was it like a star-studded group chat? It wasn't, I, I, there was, yeah, there were some stars in it. It wasn't like crazy stars. There were mostly people like me. There were stars. But Josh, you're a star. God bless.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like, the thing is like everyone in the movie is like a star. Like, oh, there are so many people in the movie where you're like, oh, my God, there is. And it's everyone's just playing like these, because it's such an ensemble cast. Yeah. People are playing like. small roles, but it'll be like somebody who you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And it was for the months we were shooting, it was like getting coffee, like before call, like who wants a latte. I love that. And it was utilitarian. And then we finished a movie and I was like, and everyone's just like gushing and lovely and beautiful and what an experience was so wonderful. And I'm like, guys, I got to go. And so I got to put this away.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I'm starting Wilburne. Like, we'll see what happens. And how is Wilbutrin? It's fun. Good, good, good, good. It's a nice time. I had a bad experience, but I'm glad you're having a good experience. Say more.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I couldn't come. Because usually that's the, well, but you're sort of the pro-coming. It's usually pro-coming. It's usually pro-coming. For me, I was like, oh, hard no. Lock the gates. It locked the gates.
Starting point is 00:40:16 We're not going. Yeah. I took it for a couple of years and I've since stopped and I miss it. No, I'd like more. I'm glad that I'd never. I'm glad that I had never done it my entire life. You never had antidepressants at all. Never.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Oh, wow, okay. And I, what I wanted to see, I remember once I had like a back injury, circles all the way back to say. There you go. I had a back injury and I remember this physical therapist I was working with was like, I want you to take pain medicine for like two days. He said, because you're so tight and you're like every exercise you'd have me do, I'd be like seething because it just was really painful. He's like, I need you to just like let your body relax for two days and start to heal.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And it's going to help me to help you to like work this injury out. And I was like, I want to try that with my brain. Like maybe if I take something after 35 years of anxiety and second guessing, all the things were plagued with like, maybe I can just like let my brain heal for a second. Yeah. And try something else. So I did for a couple years, and I'm glad I did. And I'm glad I know it exists. So now you feel like that gave you kind of the little push you needed to be like, okay, I kind of got this.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Like there's another possibility. Okay, good, yeah. Like the way in which my brain understands the world is not the only way. Yeah. There's another. How is it for you? Are you in the club, too? God bless.
Starting point is 00:41:48 So I'm on Prozac as well. We're both on Prozac. A classic. Yeah, yeah. It's a classic. It's a classic. But I went... Peloxatine.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah. Ploxatine. I went to, I went from Selexa, Welbutrin, and now, and then I went back to Selexan, now on one Prozac. Yeah. And I find it's pretty good. It's so hard to tell when you're in it. It is hard to tell.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And like, I was on Prozac for a bunch of years. And then I got off it because I was like, I think I don't need it. And it just happened to, like, line up with, like, just a bunch of, like, kind of bad events and work things going. Like, you know, just... And I was just... And I just fell into a total depressive episode. And then I was like, okay, I'm going to go back on for now.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So I'm still back on for now. I feel alive. Totally. You, this is a weird thing to say. But, like, I think you have a really interesting life. And you, like, radiate sanity in this way. Like, you're, like, a dad. You are, like, a husband and you, like, have this cool family.
Starting point is 00:42:47 You seem very, like, good. Like, do you have any tips for people? who just like aren't like I don't know like you're so to seem good or to be good like you are like yeah I don't know what do you mean well is it what do you mean yeah is it can I ask how old you guys are because yeah I'm 29 30 oh you guys are exactly where you should be okay great you're perfect really and if people are watching this and that's let's say they're god forbid 18 19 sure is there anything to get get them through the day what what what what what plagues you the heaviness of the world.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Same more. It just feels like everything is so crazy and there's so many, there's so many, I don't know, like, like, it feels, I don't know, it just feels like the whole world, like Costco started selling, um, I'm in, I'm in, Costco started selling doomsday buckets. Right. Okay. Right. You know, that's what it makes me do.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Right. How do you, how do you like go like, I don't know, I'm just excited about my life and I've got like a family that's cool. How do you do cool normal things? Well, I'm very powerless, which is helpful. You did click the button in the upper-huh. I did. And I clicked the button to leave the group chat.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I came back. I, by the way. Once I saw it. Yeah. I remember my wife watched it to your point and she was like, at what point did you think they were going to cut you out? Yeah, you click the button. Yeah, you idiot. They didn't have like other shots of other
Starting point is 00:44:19 people clicking it just in case. I'm like, you didn't Mary a smart man. I, up until very recently having kids and whatnot, and it still plagues me, but oh boy, did it plague me at 29 and 30? And mostly my 20s,
Starting point is 00:44:32 which were fucked, was I was just deeply self-centered. That's my kink. It's all about me. And I used to think that being self-centered was reserved for people who think highly of themselves. It turns out it's for us, people who hate ourselves too.
Starting point is 00:44:47 100%. Because it's self. It's self-obsession. I've never been able to think, my way into something that like has gotten me anywhere good and I can't think my way like what is it analysis is paralysis I love that wow that's really good yeah and you can't think your way in the right action you have to act your way in the right thinking oh that's good too yeah where did you oh my god I'm gonna attach it on my face oh good for you yeah that sounds oh I like
Starting point is 00:45:14 those I don't know those and now I'm gonna tell those to everybody oh I'm literally gonna attach to it on my face yeah yeah those are good what I But the business, too, I mean, you guys, like, you're, you're, the, this business affords itself to, like, when you are the instrument, you can't help but be like, how are my strings? You know, like, it's very easy to fall into, like, totally. Everything going on with me is the most important thing. Yeah. But you've been a little quiet. What's going on with you?
Starting point is 00:45:43 No, no, no. You're like, the Prozac's working. I love that. That's, like, really all really great advice. That's really cool. Yeah. No, that definitely makes sense. I think like the idea of like perspective shifts is always helpful.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Like I'm becoming like a fucking broken record by I always talk about my grandma on this podcast. Wow. You got a great grandma. She's really great. She survived two wars. She's 101 this July. Yeah, July 1st, she'll be 101. And she's the coolest person I know.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And she's like the best. And so anytime something is going to shit in the world or anything. I just think like, ooh, this lady dealt with some really fucking atrocious things and just like the idea that she's actually chilling and playing Candy Crush on her iPad. And lives alone. Wow. Lives alone at 100. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. She's pretty insane. So it's like, yeah, I think perspective shifts are are so important. Even when it's like, like, of course, like it's okay to like be upset and like, you know. Have your feeling. Yeah. Learn to regulate them. Totally.
Starting point is 00:46:50 But it's not about, I'm learning that. I'm learning to regulate my feelings sometimes. What is it like, what does it look like when it's at its worst? Does it become like, like for me, it would just become, I would just need, like, you guys would be getting calls. And I'd be like, I'm pretty sure it's all falling apart. Yeah. Like, no, it's not, Josh. Like, okay, but I'm going to need to walk for the next hour and you're just going to have to listen.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. You know, like it was a lot of, I had to dump a lot on friends and family. I do a lot of, which is very, back to what you said, like self-centered in a negative way, like a lot of like seeking reassurance. Like, did all of this happen because I suck? Like, did I, like, which I think is a way of getting control over something is being like, oh, this, all this bad stuff is happening because I fucked it up and I'm the worst and I've done everything terrible in my entire life. And it's like, maybe you just don't have control over and it's not about you and you can just calm the fuck down and maybe like go help someone. Yeah. How about you? Suddy. Um, I, I, I, I, whenever I'm like having a little moment of like sadness, I just get real quiet, get real sad, shut everyone out and play my farm game. Yeah, she's been playing her farm game, which is really good. Starry Valley? Heyday. Heyday. Okay. So phone game, cheap. She loves it. Like, it's awesome. It's sick. It's so sick. Like, you just make crops. It's like so sick. But, yeah, I'll just, like, go fully just quiet. And then, like, people will text me and stuff. And then sometimes I'll text back. Mostly, I'll just be in my house. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of my vibe when I'm, like, big sad vibes. Yeah, hot. Yeah. It's super hot. It's very hot. Everything we just said has been really fucking hot this whole.
Starting point is 00:48:31 time. I think so. I don't know if this guy's, this will help you guys as an actor. It helped me tremendously, which was, I remember I was like auditioning for, I don't know, you know, sheriff's country or like, I don't know, NCIS Burbank and. NCRS Burbank is awesome. It'd be so good. NCRS Encinio. And CSBurbank, we've got a situation at Granville. There's someone robin flabbers. And I was talking to my acting teacher about it, and I was like lamenting about something that I didn't get.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And she said to me, she's like, you know, this isn't Hamlet. Like she kind of said, this is CSI, you know, Hollywood. Like 20 people could play this part. She's like respectfully. She's like, it's a TV procedural. It's not like a once in a lifetime part that only one actor is born to play. So she's like, so at that point. you're one of 20 people and then it becomes flavor right maybe they want someone with a different
Starting point is 00:49:34 look a different style a different vocal tick they're like she's like it's really not personal yeah and that's when i like and that's what i like and that's what i say about almost like 99% of auditions and you're like it's not hamlet yeah yeah so i go like all right all right yeah whatever yeah the amount of like uh auditions you'll do when you're like oh they're asking to like see my hands and then stand in a shower and cry. Like, they're asking for such weird things. Why am I making this more important? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Do you have any weird audition stories of, like, somebody asking you to do something where you're like, what the fuck? Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, this was at a time where, like, they could ask you this in an audition where you would have a chemistry test with someone, and it would be like a, not a love scene, but like before or after. And so it's just like you've just met this person and there's like a
Starting point is 00:50:25 simulated like afterglow love scene, you know, cuddling with each other. And I'm like, this is odd. You know, this is, you don't need this for the audition. And they're like, can you cuddle her? Is that okay? Yeah. Like, can we get an intimacy counselor here? And if they want that scene to go well, they're not going to see it go well in the first time you guys have met. Like that's that's totally, you know, handicapping the, yeah. Yeah, it's so strange. I've had, oh, I had an audition one try. They were like, can you wear clothes of the period? And I was like, sick.
Starting point is 00:51:03 So it's like, it took place in the 50s. I wore like a not, there's no a athlete or in the 50s. Spoiler alert. I'm in fucking wool or like old school of gabardine pants. And I'm sitting there. And they don't turn on the air conditioning. And I'm there.
Starting point is 00:51:18 They're like, let's chat. I'm like, great. So I'm there for 40 to 50 minutes. in a non-breatvable clothes, 80-degree room, and I'm nervous because I'm acting. Yeah. And they don't have me audition do the scene to like minute 43.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Oh my God. So by the time they're like filming it or anything, it's like, oh, you're just so sweaty. I can feel. You're like lightheaded at that point. I can feel my body is sweating. My face is not, but I'm like, I slowly feel it. And then I go, I'm drenched.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I know I'm drenched. And I'm in like a lilac colored shirt. It's like, you can see it. Oh, my God. And so I walk out and I go into the restroom after here to here is just soaked. I mean soaked. Oh, no. And I just was like, I called my mom after I was 24.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And I'm like, I don't know why I'd do this. I don't do this anymore, mom. She's like, listen, you're a gorgeous boy. She's like, you're gorgeous, but you're heavy. She's like, well, too late. Well, you're a gorgeous boy. Who's going to pay for my retirement community? That's so good.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Do you guys have? Oh, yeah. I feel like, I mean, recently I had a good one. Oh, my God. Recently I had a commercial audition where they made me redo the self-tape twice. Then I went into the audition, which was in San Monica, stayed for like two hours. They had me read with every person. Put me on a veil.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Then they go, wait, could you do a British accent? I was like, you didn't have me try that once when I was there. What if you just sent us some voice memos of British accents? And I was like, what? So I like sent them voice memos of me being like, um, hello. Like fucking so weird. Ooi, hoy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Not me. Not Hermione. Yo. And then they were like, okay, totally. Actually, we're going to redo the callback. So if you could come in, that would be great again. I was like, what? Went in back to Santa Monica, got there.
Starting point is 00:53:19 There was no one there. Literally 30 minutes later, the director, comes in and goes, do you know what's happening? I was like, no. He's like, I don't either. It's like, great. Awesome. Great. It was a new casting studio. All different people came in. Now there were a bunch of men there and I was competing with men. And then they had me there for like four hours. They also put you on a veil multiple times. And you were already on it. They were like, okay, you're on a veil. And you're like, I've been on a veil. Yeah. I was there for like four hours. A girl in the waiting room was like, how long have you been here? I was like,
Starting point is 00:53:51 four hours. She goes like, oh, that's illegal. I was like, mm-hmm. And tell me you got it. No. I went home and they were like, we decided to go with a man. Your agent should yell at these people. This is so, that grinds my gears, man. I was like, cool.
Starting point is 00:54:07 That grinds my gears. It's so good. Cool. Thank you for all my time. It's just such an, it's a pretty, you know, not to complain. We're not firefighters. But like, it's a pretty unforgiving thing. It's like, so they could just make these incredibly uncomfortable,
Starting point is 00:54:22 nerve-wracking situations a little bit nicer on you, can't they? Yeah, or maybe even just cut it down to like one or two days. Like, I don't need to go in three different days or whatever. Like, we can, like, make it a shorter experience, I think. Good for you, though, for like just
Starting point is 00:54:38 doing the deal. Like, because we've all done it. I know. The only worst version would have been if you had fucking blown your stack. I know. I just want your load. Yeah, or if you blew your load in the audition, that would have sucked. Yeah. That would be so bad. If you came in and you were like, okay, guys, I'm actually going to blow my load.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I take Wilburne before every audition so I don't blow my load. Really quickly. We've taken up so much of your time. I do appreciate it. You do these really, really funny Instagram videos where you eat foods wrong. Yeah, you say to the camera, you know, like, hey, you're having a good day. And then you eat food the wrong way, like, you know, just incorrectly. And then you say, how about now?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah. Do you do that to ruin people as? days or do you do that to eat food wrong or both? All of it. Great. Yeah, that's beautiful. Yeah. We both just like for our whole lives have really liked not only eating food but doing things wrong. You know, like we really like both of those things. And we were wondering if you could show us how to eat something wrong. Oh, I would love to. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:43 This is a segment called Josh Beck Eats Food Wrong. Music. Cut music. sick. Oh, thank you. Oh, nice. That's what I imagine. Oh, boy. Okay, so now we have our ice creams.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Great. And tell us how you want to eat this. So, of course, standard way. Yeah. Right. But I think probably we should grip it by, yeah, by the cream. Grip it by the cream. Grip it by the cream.
Starting point is 00:56:13 That sounds really sexual. That sounds really sexual. Okay. One, two, three. Wow. Oh, yeah. That's nice. That's refreshing, right?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Well, cheers, guys. Cheers, guys. Cheers. Hey, thanks so much for being on our podcast. What a joy. Thank you for having me. Oh, boy, it's already going. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Oh, no. You have an appended there? Where can the people find you, Josh Pack? Listen to my podcast, the good guys' podcasts. You guys are going to come on. My hand. It's so cool. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I'm just going for it. I used to get kicked out of restaurants as a kid. Did you meet you? Yeah, I would burp too much. I had terrible indigestion. They would make me leave. How is it now? I was bad, but I got to stay because I'm an adult.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Good for you. Good guys' podcast, and that's it. I'm terrible everywhere you listen to pods. Thank you so much, Josh Pack. We're sitting, Olivia. Man, my hand is numb. Oh, my God, it's cool. My hand is numb, and we love Josh Pack.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I'm literally shaking. Oh, yeah, I'm hardcore, dude. I'm fucking hardcore. I'm shaking. I'm such a pussy. I'm, I'm, yeah, I'll, I'll, yeah. You think, you think you're doing this on smart list? Um, uh, uh.
Starting point is 00:57:25 You think this on Joe Roe? No. No other pot is doing this. They don't need to. Okay, gosh. We're gonna end on a priest friend. Bye!

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