Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - MacDoesIt And A MURDEROUS Love Affair 💀

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Machaizelli Kahey AKA MacDoesIt is on the big bad podcast for you this week! Try Rocket Money for free: https://RocketMoney.com/sydandolivia We filmed this a couple weeks ago before all the events that are currently unfolding in CA and the rest of the country. Here are some resources to stay safe and know your rights! https://www.ilrc.org/ https://www.nilc.org/ https://caimmigrant.org/ Remember these episodes now go up a few days early AND with bonus content on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/syd_and_olivia Listen to the show on the go! Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2j0iQxY9Pf0h4mXEOFxgmk?si=a95ba3e2a2844ec4 MacDoesIt @MacDoesIt https://www.instagram.com/macdoesit https://www.tiktok.com/@macdoesit Chapters 00:22 - Intro 00:36 - Special Guest MacDoesIt 01:45 - WHERE ARE YOU STAYING?? 03:43 - MacDoesIt IT: Fashion 16:02 - Rocket Money 17:37 - MacDoesIt IT: Fashion Continued 21:00 - YouTube As A Career 26:01 - Logan Paul's Abandoned Pig (That’s So Cool) 29:07 - Are These Bones Human? 35:15 - What’s Been Keeping Olivia Up At Night? 49:12 - Disappointing Your Family 53:00 - Where MacDoesIt Lives On The Internet This is a 7equis Network Show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No, but if I got cannibalized, I would so much rather have a girl cannibalize me. Sorry. Or a non-binary person. Make room. Make room for non-binary people eating me. Was that guns? Welcome to the big, bad podcast for you. It's the big, huge, bad, huge podcast at you.

This is Sid and Olivia Talk shit. I'm the Sid and one. I'm the Olivia one, and together we are Sid and Olivia. And together we talk some shit. Today we are joined by another one, a one who is so wonderful. A boy. A one who is sweet little baby, baby boy. A little baby, little tiny boy.

Tiny boy, cutey boy. Teen tiny boy can fit in my mouth. What? I realized that's like really bad. I meant like so small, but that that sounded sexual. Okay. So we're starting great, guys. We're starting off great.

I'm sexually harassing our guest. Sid is regular harassing our guest. Oh, yeah. Happy pride. Happy pride. Our guest today. is Mac does it! So,

oh, that's... That was sound box. Wait, did you? Is that new? Is that yours? Yeah, I bought this. Because we went on perfect person and I got really jealous that he had a sound word. So I found a $5 one. Wait, I love that.

So I got this and now we're even more like Icarly. Oh my God, now we're I Carly, for sure. How are you today? I'm good. I'm awake. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. And where do you live?

Yeah. Before this, I kept asking Mack where he was staying, where he lived. What are your cross streets? I didn't realize how scary it sounded. I was just trying to connect, but I was being so scary about it. There were a lot of things in common. Like, I live in this part of town. I live in this part of town.

What cross streets? Yeah. And then it's like, you know, or he's going to New York. We're going to New York. Where are you staying? Oh, yeah, me too. I'm reading that show, too. When are you?

Yeah, it's good. It's good. Yeah. So it does sound like at this point, you think I'm trying to track you down. constantly. Yes. Yeah, which is good. But I'm used to, you know, I'm just so famous.

Yeah, I mean, I've already done the most sexual harassment I've ever done just at the beginning of this podcast in that one sentence. Okay, I love that. And maybe that's good that I've never done any more than that. Yeah, that's perfect. Mack, for those, for the random weirdos who don't know who you are, do you want to give a quick bio? The people that are just like too, like, determined.

Hey, hey, you freaking weirdos. Oh my gosh, I love it already. My name is Mac does it. I don't know. I do this thing online. I don't know if you heard about it, but it's called YouTube. I am learning about it today. I like to classify myself as satirical commentary, mainly because I just talk a lot of shit.

I love that. But you're great podcast. Yes. And you're great at. You give really good, specifically what I really love about your videos is when you comment on fashion. I think you have the best fashion. makes you have the funniest fashion videos when you talk about like the MET or things like that. Thank you. You know, I'm just so fashion forward. I just have like, you know, display my expertise.

You're amazing at it. So I think to get into the episode. Oh, I'm so down. I would love to get your take on some iconic fashion looks. Yeah, we're going to show you some iconic fashion looks. Icony. And it's time to tell us what your thoughts are. What your thoughts are. This is a segment called Mac Does It. It. colon fashion. See, that's hard. That's hard. Play the music. Stop.

Cut. Oh my God. Okay. That was so loud. So much music just happened. I know. It was sudden. We had to stop it.

It was too much. Are you familiar with this man? No. You're not familiar with this? What is this chaos right now? This is my celebrity crush. This is a tombis. He's the AMPM monster.

He's the mascot for AMPM. He is featured heavily in our... I didn't know AMPM had a mascot. Yes. And it is this. he's also eight feet tall, nine feet, 15 feet tall. It's something like that. Based on the proportions of the picture, I'm going to say he's at least 12 feet tall.

Yeah, that's fair. He is a skyscraper. If I saw this as a child, I'll probably start crying. Yes, absolutely. He's kind of there for children to cry. Like, that's kind of his thing. He has hot dog fingers. He has cinnamon roll hands.

He has a fupa of loose chips. His torso is bagged chips. His nipples are hot dogs. His beard is Cheetos. His beard is Cheetos. His nipples are hot dogs. His nipples are hot dogs. Oh, my God.

His mustache or his upper lip or his upper teeth is a hot hot dog. And then his cheeks are cookies. We love. But I think his hair is regular. His hair is licorice. Sorry to fuck. Sorry. I think his hair is regular.

But his arms is cups. His arms is cups. His arms is cups. Mack, what are your thoughts? We love a girl dinner. Oh, my God. I will say, you know, is girl dinner the monster. Yes.

You're actually, that is, I've never thought of it that way before and you're so right. This man is just asking to be eaten by a girl. And that's why I love him so much. Aren't we all? And aren't we all? No, but if I got cannibalized, I would so much rather have a girl cannibalize me. Sorry. Or a non-binary person.

Make room. Make room for non-binary people eating me. Was that guns? Wait, I didn't mean to click that one. So that's the guns that kill me when I die. This has a limited amount of sounds. I didn't mean to click the gun one. Listen.

It's Pride Month, and I would just say, if someone's going to eat my corpse, it's not, it can't be a cis-hat white man. Okay. Not this month. Not this month. Okay. Happy Pride. This is Tombgis.

That's a genius analysis of Girl Dinner, the Monster. It is excellent. I also do love that in this photo, particularly Toomac. is kind of turned off. He's dissociating heart. He's dissociating. He's like there's no life in his body. He had a couple edibles and he's just there.

He's happy. He's pleasantly gone. Yeah. But he's not here. He's not here right now. Okay, next photo. Let's see what we're doing next. Oh, what is this?

What is this? Oh. What is this? Who is that? Who is that? What is that? Before. So what are your thoughts on our good old friend Tommy?

Tomi Bones in a. Yellow wig and a rainbow. Like a Target onesie. Yes. We love that. And the expression is really good as well. Not dissimilar from Tumgis' expression. It's his mental illness, right?

Mental illness person. Yes. This is his mental illness. This is your mental illness. Okay. Tommy asked your mental illness. And what are your thoughts on the look? It's there.

It's colorful. It's very present. If he walked to. in a room, people will know he is in the room. That is such a good point. And that's neither a good or bad thing. It's just a thing. It is definitely a thing.

It's just a fact. You know. Yeah, if he walked into the room, he'd be in there and people would know. People like, oh, wow. That man is blinding me. And do you think he should go with this hair color? I mean, he already does kind of, right? His, I'm going to go.

It's more like bleached on. His is more bleached and stuff. He toned up. He toned up. Yeah, this is, I think, a little bit. This is when you go from my hair color. you try to bleach it in one day and then you have to do a week like this.

Yes. Sad face. I know this from experience. And then, yeah. Kind of giving, there was like a children's show. What was it called? Doodle bobs? Doodle bobs? Doodle bobs? Doodle bobs?

I think it was like some children's show. They were all like colorful people with like colorful hair. Wait, wait, wait. It was like giving like Beatles except they were not. Are you talking about the wiggles? Are you talking about? No, not the wiggles. It was kind of like the wiggles.

It was like American version of that. I think it was called like the doodle bobs. Was it the one Shelby was in? I think it was like the doodle bops, doodle bops? What was the one Shelby was in with the wig? Oh, Lazy Town. Sorry. Wait, can we look up what are the doodle bops?

Oh, you're so right. You are so right. You are right. You are right. You are right. You are right. And in fact, I do know what this is. Yes, yes.

It's like a fever dream that just like came back to me in this moment. And wait, this is not associated with Lazy Town. No. Because it kind of feels like either a Lazy Town ripoff or a sequel or... It feels like she looks like grown up Lazy Town. Lazy Town girl. But I feel a little Lazy Town reminiscent. Yeah, this is crazy.

His head is a mop. This is awesome. His head is a cleaning utensil. This is great. Yeah, they're awesome. You know what? It is 100% giving doodle bops. It's like if the Met Gala or if a sleepover was

themed doodle bops. Doobob do boop sleepover. Which we could do right now if you want. We could stop this whole thing and do doodle bobs thing sleepover. Yeah. A marathon? It's like 11 in the morning. We can all do some heroin and go to sleep.

Okay, gorgeous. I love the doodle bops. Let's go to the next image. The image that made me scream when I saw it because it was surprising to me. And what are we? There she is. Is. So for the listeners who are not watching, this is Jojo C-Wan.

iconic karma music video outfit except I think she's walking a red carpet in it yes and just to this was the outfit that she was told she looks like Jean Simmons and she said I don't know who that is right

yes which makes it even better rock and roll but but she's saying pop it's a pop song right it's a pop she invented gay pop remember she did oh my god I'm so sorry yeah what are you should know what are you doing

and she's dating a man. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, what are your thoughts? It's a lot, is a lot. Are there rhinestone in the eyes or no? No, it's just black. There's Ryan, there's, there's Ryanstones.

There are rhinestones. There are rhinestones. There are rhinestones. They are there. It's giving, it's giving Party City, like a party city, like a Party City kiss outfit, RIP to Party City. Is it gone?

It is. Is it gone? It offed itself. It offed itself. Oh, that stuff. She couldn't handle the pressure. She had to leave. Oh, that's sad.

She couldn't handle the party. She couldn't handle the party. I can cry if I want. She said, it's my party. I can off myself if I want to. Yeah, I mean, God, it's hard with her because it's like, I can't imagine being in the public eye since I was a little tiny, teeny tiny child. You're trying to figure yourself out. And then, but hey, sure.

I would love to go on a Chris Hughes tangent at some point. Yeah. We can do it now or we can do it later. No, we can do it now. Yeah, of course. What is what is what is that? That is crazy. Okay. So if you don't know what's going on, Jojo Siwa was on Big Brother UK, right? With Celebrity Big Brother UK. With Chris Hughes, who was a Love Island alum. In 2017, he was on season three of Love Island. Sid and I were obsessed with this season of Love Island. It's a really good season. Chris Hughes was like a big thing in our lives in 2017. And now he and Jojo Cee. have a very close relationship? No, they're absolutely out as dating.

Are they? They came out as we are ready to define our relationship. It's not Platonic anymore and it's been a beautiful development, a beautiful connection, absolutely head over heels for him and he's the same way, Jojo Siwa. Wow. I thought they were still pretending it was a friendship. I know. I can't stop.

My algorithm won't stop giving it to me. And you keep on seeing that one photo. But did you see the picture of them in bed? Yes. On the first day of prime. bed. You know? Yes, I know.

And she, and everyone's mad about that. And then that's a whole layer of things. But, um, Oh, the pig in the bed. Can you look up, can you look up them in bed? They're naked in bed.

And, and I don't. I feel like that happens a lot on Big Brother, like around the world. People just like get together. I feel like that happens a lot when people date. Yeah, they're like naked in bed.

Like, like, like on Big Brother, like in history, like there's always some people that just get together. There it is. I guess it makes sense when you're trapped in a house together. You're going to be like,

can I, Fuck here. Be trauma bond, you know? Yep, there it is. And then someone said that that picture looks like mother has a newborn and they're doing skin to skin. And now I can't unsee it.

Yeah. Anyway, I hope it all goes well. It's just shocking. I'm just shocked. It's like the most mad libs. I have nothing against it. I know it's nothing for it. The most random combination you could not expect.

Yeah. That my brain won't. It is really random. Um, okay, great. Well, hope you guys are doing great. Yep, hope everyone's well. Hope everything's good. Okay, Loflay.

So back to this outfit. Absolutely perfect. Yeah, it's very good. It's very amphibian. It's very sea monster. I really... Yes, that's it. Yes, it's amphibium.

It's reptilian. Reptillion. Yeah, it is reptilian. It's, um, yeah, I mean, it's a great, it's a great look. Okay, let's see the next outfit. Oh, God, a classic. Wow. Now, this guy, this is hot.

I'm not going to lie, this is hot. this is like what men should be wearing. And listen, I don't want to tell other people what to do, but like if you want to get more pussy, guys, if you want to look like a sexy motherfucker. It's giving, you know, Calvin Klein Fall Collection, you know, Hugo Boss. It's giving Petro Pascal. Yeah, it's so hot. This is, if you are just listening, this is Kermit the Frog wearing a sweater and trousers. This is Kermit the Frog.

being better than everybody. That's rough. He's wearing like a turtleneck and blazer holding a blazer behind him. Like he's some sort of Diane Keaton sick motherfucker. Yes. He's like doing an editorial shoot.

Yeah. This guy is like a film festival somewhere. He's timeless. It's timeless. That's what it's like he's hosting Esson now. This is one of his like promo picks. That's exactly what it looks like. That's actually exactly what that photo is.

It's like this week, it's Kermy and the musical guest is Miss Peegee. Yeah, that's awesome. Wow. And I do think that that sweater is quince. Is Quince a sponsor yet? They're not yet. Then it's not yet. It's not quince.

That sweater isn't quince yet. Okay, well, if you were a sponsor, I would say that sweater looks like it's quince. Yeah, this is, I don't know. It's so simple, but it's getting me. Yeah, and his skin tone is so perfect with the gray. It's really, yeah, it's really nice. He's in his color season. Green and gray, you never talk about that being a really classic color combination.

Green and black, green and gray, like in the way that, like, Elfaba looks so fucking sick. Yeah, green skin is really in now, you know. Green skin is in. With black clothes or gray or like, yeah, that's so fucking hot. So hot. Yeah, really, really. This outfit could be from favorite daughter. Like, this looks really classy, chic, nice silhouette.

Yeah, and how many fingers does he have? one, two, three, I think it's five, or is it four? Is it four? It's either four or five. I think it's four. I think it's five. I don't know. It's so blurry. Five. Okay. Well, this is a man with human hands. I'll confirm how many fingers he has.

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Oh, boy. Now, Skimble Shanks, this is not the movie version because that guy is dressed a little bit better. This is Skimble Shanks from a stage production. He has no pants on. His groin is out to play. He has a vest. That's it.

A pocket watch. He's got those leg warmers? Leg warmers. He's also heels. He has, like, wrist warmer? Like what's the There's like some sort of leg warmer Yes

His forearms as well He has like wrist warmers Yes Kind of like a cut off blouse The chain is something The chain on his vest It is a voluntary chain On the vest

Like he didn't have to have A little slutty chain on his vest I just like how it's like Was it Leotaur or whatever It looks like a burning inferno Like an apocalyptic inferno Yes it does And those are his

legs. And canonically, those are his legs. Those are his legs. I just, yeah, his groin is on fire. And they didn't see GI it out. No, in the movie, they didn't see GI. Wait, what? No, they did.

In the movie, they, in the movie they see-Ied out Jason Drullo's dick. Oh, yeah, his bald. And he got upset about it. He was like, what the fuck? And it's like, I understand both things. It's like, I understand that, yeah, like, you don't necessarily want this cat to like have a huge fucking dick that's in your face. And why not?

But at the same time, yes we do. But at this time, he's the sexy cat. And also, it would suck to be a person in a morph suit hoping it would show off your dick outline, being impressed by it. And then being like, they cut out my dick because it was too big. Kind of cool. But they should have just censored it. Yeah.

Like, just a bigelated the whole movie. And they did also cut out all of the buttholes in that movie. I know. I know. They originally had the butthole cut. had the butthole cut where in cats the movie, they animated buttholes that winked in stuff with movement. It was like to be more realistic.

I'm serious. To be more realistic. On all of the cast. I don't forgive that movie because they had Jennifer Hudson crawling on all fours. Like, how dare you? That woman has an Oscar. We saw that movie. We saw that movie so fucking Oscar.

They have her walk-in, sing memory, like one of the most beautiful songs in musical theater, and then crawl away. And it's so, like, degrading. It's awful. It's insane. Yeah. Yeah, no. That movie was...

What if she hosted an episode of her show just in that outfit? I would... I would be so excited. That needs to be the Halloween episode, I think. Yeah. Just like... Yeah. Come on.

Yeah. In the outfit. And then it's not coming down her nose. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Oh, boy, boy. Yeah, no, he...

I think Skimble Shanks is a real winner in my book. Yeah. His legs are on fire. His junk is on fire. He has leg warmers on his arms and legs. He's got clogs. Oh, the claws. I think of the clogs.

Yeah, he's pretty sexy. It is like, it's goodwill maximalism. Mm. Oh. Mm-hmm. No pants edition. No pants edition. Okay, that was the segment, everybody.

Yay. Music. Cut the music. Cut the music. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Is that a fart? I'm still figuring out.

I love that. Let's do a let's, how many numbers are there? One, two, three, four. Oh, are they not numbered? Are they just random? Yeah, it's 16, I think. Because like, I'm going to say, okay, do like two in, two rows down. Oh, sorry, that was three.

This was two. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Hey, Mac, let me ask you a question. Yeah. Okay. All right.

where do you live? Oh, you're in a podcast for now, right? Let me ask you a question. What do you live? So where do you live? Mac, when did you, can you tell me? I think YouTube careers are so fascinating. Maybe it's because, like, when I was a growing up, I was, like, following these YouTubers.

When I was a growing up. When I was a growing up. When I was a growing up, I was, a growing up. I was, like, following these YouTubers and, like, seeing their careers. and, you know, it's just like interesting. When did you start YouTube and what was your first video? Oh, ooh. Whoa.

Too personal. Now, I started my channel, Mac. I actually started making videos freshman year of high school. Nice. We would send, like, private videos to each other as friends and all that stuff. Wasn't until, like, my sophomore year. I mean, Mac does it? Well, it was Maca Zelle does it.

My actual name is Maca Zelle. Does anyone in your life call you that? Maca Zelle? Yeah. Uh, no. very fucking cool name. It's a very cool name. So I kind of feel like somebody should call you that.

It was supposed to be Machiavelli after Nicola Machiavelli, but then they spelled it wrong in a birth certificate. What? That's even cool. That's like, wait, that is the coolest way to get a name. It's a great icebreaker when I talk to people. That is supposed to be Machiavelli? Like Machiavellian? Like, fear me or love me?

Oh, wow. That's incredible. And then, and then I love you. And I can fear you if you want me to. And they spelled it wrong. And then they were like, we're just. going with it. That's it. You know, that's fate, you know. That is so fun. That's fucking cool. So you, you were making

these private videos and then what was the one that you were like, this one's going to be public? Um, I reviewed the, was the 2012 Olympics? That was my first public video. And how old were you? 14? Oh my God. How many Olympics had you lived through that you could be like, now let me see. It was more like a comedic review. Right, right. I thought I was being funny. But you know. Is the video still there? No.

I was going to. You're in the video mostly. It's just like the camera focusing, you know, trying really hard. That's like a crazy segment too of like going back to the very end of someone's YouTube channel. I know. Like we're going to show them. Ours would be crazy because ours is just us pretending to be children holding a bunch of dead salmon. That's what ours is.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fish. Like being dead. And we were like, it was like a sketch we made where we were two girls named Ella.

And we were both. And our dads ran an imported salmon emporium, but they had a bunch of recalled salmon that needed to go. So we had to use it for our. How did you even? I don't know. I don't even fucking know. So we had to use it for our 16th birthday. So it was like an invitation to be like, you're invited to our Salmonella sweet 16 birthday bash.

Yeah. Because we have to get rid of all of this recalled salmon. And we had so much fun making it. and everyone we knew hated it. Everyone in our lives was like, you should quit. They were like, hey, not this at all. And we were like, we like it because we taped the salmon to my wall. One of my friends' little brothers came up to me and said, I disliked it on YouTube.

I was like, great. Thank you. Is this still up? Yeah, it is. Okay. I'm going to search it up later. You were like, okay, interesting choice. And it's still up.

So when do you feel like you developed like your voice as a YouTuber? Have you always had it? Because you, I feel like, have a really specific good, like, voice. Thank you. Yeah. You won't compliment me. No, I mean, it took a while. When I first started, I was trying so hard to be, like, everyone else I saw.

Yeah. And then it took a bit, like a few years in. I think, like, 2016 was where, like, the time I was like, okay, let me edit the way I want to edit it. Let me just see how people feel. And then, yeah. That's so pretty cool. Who were the people you were looking up to before? Really loved Grace Helbig.

I feel like that was the main person. I was trying to be when I first started my channel. I mean, she was the best. Like, she was like, back in the day, she was, like, the one. Yeah. That's it. End of list. I love that.

Yeah, no, she was, like, definitely, she kind of, like, without Grace Helbig, there would be no Emma Chamberlain. Like, there was, like, she was the one who's like, I'm kind of like, yes. And without Logan's Hall, there would be no potbelly pig at, What's the place? Gentle Barn. Why? Because they rescued his abandoned pot belly pig.

Logan Paul abandoned a pig? Yes, he did. I mean, that's like... One of the little things on his list. I'm sorry. That's the thing. Like, I feel like that, like, you know, there's no shock with him. Yeah, he abandoned a pig and now it's at Gentle Barn, which is like a farm in the L.A. area where they rescue animals.

and you can go visit them. We have annual passes and we go regularly. And you see the pig? We meet the pig. But we went once. I did that thing I do sometimes where I have a bunch of thoughts and then I express the last one. And I assume everyone's on the same page with me. But then I say something that's like completely fucking weird and has nothing.

And it's like, whoa, that's not what I meant. We were talking to this woman who was the pig's handler. And she was like, this pig was abandoned by an influencer. And Olivia said, that's so cool. And what I meant was... And then I said, that's so cool? What I meant was I already know about this story and it's so cool that you guys saved this pig.

But that is not what I said. It sounded like, whoa, an influencer. That's cool that it abandoned. Like, how many, like, abandoned animals are there by, like, influences celebrities? So now, didn't Justin Bieber abandon, like, a monkey at one point? Dude, rich people be abandoning animals. Rich people be, be like...

They don't want it anymore. They, like, get it. And then they're like, oh, this is my prop. Just kidding. So many people also get pigs thinking they're like teacup pigs, which I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're not real. Yeah, I think it's there's some, there's some like really. Yeah. That's like a genetic modified. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure that's like not a real thing. But people will be like, it's a teacup pig. It'll stay this size. And then it'll grow up into a normal size pig. And they'll be like, you know, a pot belly pig, which can still be very large. Like a pot belly pig can still fuck up your house. And they are smarter than you, you know? Yeah.

Speaking of animals. I would love to show you guys some photos really quickly. If that's okay with you. It's photos of me. Speaking of animals and then it's just like you with a dog filter. Selfies. I would like to see what you guys think of this. Like post or close friends?

I was recently, I went to the Bay Area. I was spending some time in nature. It was really lovely. I was just like walking around different areas and having a little. little time for me. Nature is so beautiful. There's so many beautiful, wonderful things you can see in nature and like just so many. Like grass. Nice, peaceful, non-districting. Somebody who's never been in nature before. I've heard of it. I've heard of grass. Like grass. You know, some trees. I'm told, you know. I'm told there are trees. There is grass. I'm told. So I was recently in nature.

You know of it. You know. You've heard of it. I was on this. I was on this. beach, this black sand beach in the Bay Area and it's so lovely and there were just all of these bones. Human? Just like laying on the beach. Human? Human? Well, we're about to find out.

Here's a segment called Are these bones are going to be human? Are these bones human? Here's a segment called. Are these bones human music? Cut the music. Are these bones human? Oh. So that

is the first and I think we can go to the next one. Oh my God, that is very large. That's huge. So we don't think it's human, right? I mean, it would have to be the tallest man on earth with the most pointiest head. Used to be the tallest man on earth. Used to be, yeah. If you go to the next photo

yeah, in scale to these dogs, if you're listening instead of watching, we are looking at what seems to be. A skull. A huge skull. A big, marine animal skull of some sort on a beach surrounded by dogs that are about a third of its size. What is on top of it? I think that's blubber. Okay, so it's a whale.

I think it's a whale skull. And if you're a marine expert, I would love to hear what your thoughts are. Yeah, can you get our marine experts in the chat? But I think, based on truly nothing at all, I think that's a whale skull and I think that's blubber. If we go to the next couple, I got a lot of photos of the skull. Oh, Jesus Christ. Just you on the beach like spending an exce... It's a lot of photos of me getting really close.

You took a selfie with it? I'm like to see that pop up. Oh, my God. Okay, so now this, what part is this? Because I think that's also blubber. But what is the little... There are two little things that look like cufflings. That looks like vertebrae.

Yeah, maybe vertebrae. I'm going to pitch vertebrae. What is the skeleton of a whale? What is it? Yeah. What where? Like, what does it look like? What is it?

Like what, like what parts are those? Mm-hmm. I guess that does it have a spleen? Not spleen. Splean, what's called? It's definitely got a spine. Whales have a spine. I know these are vertebrae.

You think that's vertebrae? Based on truly very little. And they're huge. That's like huge. Yeah. It's. Oh, yeah. Wow.

Yeah. That's beautiful. And then there's these. Oh. It looks like it all washed. Get the dog away from it. Yeah, the dog. There were these dogs on the beach that were running up to it being like, bone.

I like bone. But it's like, but it's a whale spine. So I think that's a whale spine. I'm crazy. So I'll just like washed up. I would bet money that's a whale's. Because when whales die, don't they like explode after a point? What?

Isn't that a thing? Like they fill up with gas and they explode. Wait, is that real? Is that a thing? Can we look that off? You can Google it. Can we look that up? But that's like one of the reasons why like if you ever see a, like, a

beached whale, you're not close to approach it because it could explode at any moment. So you could, like, you could, is there a story of a death of someone who approached a beach whale that then exploded? I don't know if I want to see it. Really? Who got too close to a whale as it exploded? Wait, we're going to see it, unfortunately, I think. Uh-oh.

Oh, no. Paul Linman, you are done. Oh, no. Oh. There's a countdown. Oh, a countdown. Countdown. Oh, a countdown.

One down to a whale explosion. Yeah. Oh my God. Two, one. Happy New Year. No, that's, No, there's no fucking way. That was not a fucking way.

That was like a fucking atomic bomb. There's no fucking way. That is them exploding the whale to get it off the beach. There is no fucking way that that whale did that on its own. Okay, wait, wait, wait. There have been several cases of exploding whale carcasses due to a buildup of gas in the decomposition process. This can occur when a whale strands itself ashore.

Okay, so it can blow up, but it doesn't blow up like, That was them blowing it up. Okay. Because truly, that is so crazy. Also, I love the idea of if you just have too much gas in your stomach when you're about to die, you fucking blow up. Like, if you know all these people in like a retirement home who just like had too many gassy foods that they're about to die.

That's how they made our friend Colin when he got a colonoscopy. They made him stay in a $1,000 fart room. Yeah. To fart 15 times. So then he could probably. $1,000. It was $1,000 because the health system is insane. Yep.

But. crazy. Just a fart. And he wasn't surrounded by others. It was not a private room. What a bonding experience. I know. Like, give me your number. Yeah. You got Instagram. But also everyone else, everyone else was waking up for anesthesia except for him. So no one else was like even mentally there. They were just farting. Which I mean, that is kind of a cool experience. Like if you're into that. Oh, it's a beautiful experience. Into that.

I didn't know that. Wow. That's a really. good one. There we go. Can I get your guys's take on something? I just clicked a random one. Yes.

I am a person who stays up very late at night. Wait, I'm so sorry. Right before we get into this. Remember how the other day we were talking about news headlines being like insane. This one is Varshi blows. Dead will explodes.

And then the deep one is from NBC. I see. The decomposing remains of a 60-ton sperm whale exploded on a busy Taiwan street, showering nearby cars and shops with blood and organs and stopping traffic for hours. Dar-she-blows. Ka-ching! Kar-she-blows! Every headline that has to do with, like, death or injury or anything bad should have ka-ching in it.

Caching. Was that Kaching? Oh, beautiful. Okay. Kiching. There she blows. Let's Kaching anytime something very bad happens. Okay, great.

Which actually might lead us into this next segment. I sometimes will just have something I hyper fixate on for a very long time. And I'll just get very obsessed with something. And I'll know every in and out of it. I'll need to do a deep dive on it. So you're not beating the allegations? I'm not beating the allegations. I'm really not.

I'm really not. And I just thought might as well make a PowerPoint on my most, on this week's hyperfix So I can show it to you guys, get you a little bit inside my brain, talk to you about something that I can only talk to myself about. A little show and tell. And ask your guys' take. I don't believe that there's anything you only talk to yourself about, but continue. That is so true. I've definitely told you guys that.

But this is a deep dive that I'm very, I'm just, I can't get it out of my head. Okay. Okay. I thought it was going to be cheering. She was laughing. I thought it was going to be. be cheering, but it was just laughing. Okay. This is

a segment called Olivia's Weekly Hyperfixation and play music and cut the music. Okay, so here is a PowerPoint I made last night. Guess what time? One in the morning. Later. Two. I think something like two. Okay.

Yeah. What's been keeping Olivia up at night? Okay. Buckle up. The ghost adventures drama. Okay. So Ghost Adventures is a show. There's a bunch of adult men scare themselves in buildings. They run in. They're like, we're going to find ghosts, and they freak themselves out.

And my family and I have been watching Ghost Adventures obsessively since I was like 12. Yes. If you don't know why Ghost Adventures is funny, that's a totally different conversation. We can have another time. We do not have time for it right now. Anyway, there's been a lot of sudden... We talked about it on the Stansy episode. Yes.

So if you haven't watched that, that's good. Ghost Adventures, like, we go back fall. We go back. It goes to be like the typical ghost hunting group with like one of them's like super skeptical the entire time. No, it's like, okay. So essentially there's there's two main characters that are like the really funny personality ones.

The main guy with the glasses, he's like super ripped and he's like the way our family kind of fell in love with the show is because he was investigating a place that had a quote unquote raced ghost. And he kept being like, well, you. People. Me. Go ahead. Rit me.

Go ahead. Do it. And he's like this ripped tattooed. And we were like, this is fucking genius. So we started watching because of that. And then the other guy, Aaron, he's sort of like just the camera guy who was just always scared. And they'd always make him go in like some scary room by himself. And he was like a Scooby-Doo character.

And then they made him an investigator because he was so entertaining. Anyway, there's been a lot of sudden recent drama involving the core members of Gack, the Ghost Adventures crew. And it is all related to their love lives. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Let's start with something simple. Cheating rumors. Holly Madison, ex-playboy bunny, TV personality.

Yeah, remember Girls Next Door? Is that what it was called? Yeah, she is a TV host model. She dated Hugh Heffner. She also dated Zach Begins, who is the really ripped guy. Crazy taste. Crazy taste. And then he said that. Crazy roster to have. Yeah. And then she came out with like a very long TikTok video about how he cheated on her with seven women.

And. Gotta be used to that if you. dated you have Nervner though. And the thing about this is that short... Were the women alive or were they ghosts? I know. I know. Excellent question.

Does it count if it's a ghost? I couldn't tell you because it might for these people. I'm not even going to get into this, okay? Because it doesn't matter compared to the rest of this PowerPoint. I just wanted to say like there's a lot going on. More importantly, yeah, this one's crazy. The other one, Erin, who I love, he's our favorite character. I mean, he's a real person.

His wife. Murder conspiracy. Tried to hire a hitman to kill him. And is pleading guilty. And it is absolutely wild. So this is a deep dive into how fucking crazy this whole thing is. Yeah. So Aaron Goodwin.

He's real life Shaggy from Scooby-Doo, and he deserves to live. His whole thing on the show, he was a cameraman who just seemed really high and freaked down. He was just entertaining, so they made him a big part of the show. Genuinely, we love him. He looks like such a nice guy. Oh, I love him. And even more so, he also deserves to live. I would say most people do.

Absolutely. And also, he's just like sweet. I don't know, he seems very sweet and just like pure. Yeah. After she got arrested for trying to kill him, he filed for divorce and said that their quote unquote views tastes like. and dislikes were now incompatible to the extent that it has become impossible for them to live together as husband, wife, and marital

harmony. I think that is a very soft way to put it. Yeah. Very professional way to be like, well, she tried to kill me. Very kind, soft way. I view my life as important. She viewed mine as not. Those are some irreconcilable differences. Yeah, I think

I will say, though, like, if she's hiring a hitman, because I know she hired a hitman, if she hired a hitman was like, I need you to kill my husband. Our tastes have become too dissimilar. He's kind of hilarious. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, no, my likes are like being alive.

Her dislikes are like me being alive. Right. Yeah. So, okay, so here's some important facts about the case. I do like that this PowerPoint is themed like Scott Pilgrim versus the world. Comic book. Comic book. Yeah.

And you could have done a ghost thing so easily. Yeah. I think that this is the energy I had it to in the morning. this is my like see the two arrows pointing at nothing there are two arrows going through Canva and the temer thing like ghost haunted and you're like comic book comic book for me it's comic book for me yeah there are two arrows pointing at nothing I don't know I think I just left that B I don't know what's that's great his wife Victoria fell in love with Grant Amato an inmate in a Florida prison

and together they planned to hire a hitman to kill Aaron yes Sid she fell in love with him while he was in prison. Yes, he has life in prison. Right. Okay. Oh, yes. For what? We'll get to that.

All right. The plan failed because the prison seized Amato's phone. Yes. How do you get phone in prison? I think it was a contraband phone. I think you sneak phones in prison. I think you can butt through the penis. I think you can get a lot of shit.

Through the anus. I think you can get a lot of shit in prison if you're like, you know. Connected. Doing the right. I mean, you've been on prison talk, right? Yeah. I have. I waited for you to process because I was like, I know you have.

And I'm like, how are they filming inside these like, what is going on? There's like a whole section of TikTok where it's just prisoners and you're like, how are you guys doing the renegade? Yeah. Yeah. Like, how did you get the eyebone? And to be honest, if this was a guy who was doing the prison talk renegade, I would understand where she's coming from even more.

You'd be like, oh, that's hot. I would be like, well, at least this is like something. At least this is a personality. This is something. Okay. I'm doing like a what's in my bag Yeah, yeah, yeah What's in my charges?

What's in my charges? What's in my conviction? You're probably wondering, well, who's this guy that she fell in love with and who's this inmate that she wanted her husband to die so she could be with? Not, not going to like it.

Who is Grant Amato? We're covered in tattoos. This guy. Oh, oh. So, Grant Amato is this guy. He is in prison for life, for killing his entire family execution style, because they didn't like that he stole $200,000 from them to pay a Bulgarian cam model. That's why he did it. And she fell in love with that?

She found him by watching the Paramount Plus docu series Control Alt Desire, which is about his crimes and about him killing his family execution style because they were mad at him that he stole $200,000 to pay a Bulgarian cam model. and I watched it too so that I could understand what she saw on this guy. Yeah. So here my top takeaways. This man, Grant Amato, he had wealthy parents.

He and his brother were both adults who lived at home. That's what she saw. She saw wealthy parents. Oh, he has money. Okay, let's get together. He describes his brother Cody as, and I quote,

his significant other. He is wealthy parents, but he was going to take $11,000 to kill somebody? No, was the he was. wasn't even the hitman. Sorry. He was just doing it for love. And for probably.

He's lost. You want to go back a few slides. He was doing it for love and probably because he likes to murder. Right. So he describes his brother Cody as quote unquote his significant other and said that, quote, they always hoped they would die at the exact same time. Chiching. He also got fired from being a nurse because he stole a bunch of meds from the hospital and drugged

all the patients so they wouldn't bother him. Oh, my God. Yeah, he didn't, he didn't. I get it. That is, you want some me time. Yeah. He didn't, he didn't take them. He drugged all the patients with medicine that wasn't prescribed to them.

So they would shut up while he was working the night shift. Injave everyone morphine. It's like, just give them iPads. Yeah, truly, just give them iPads. Just put on Cocoa Mel. Be like, like, here's Cocoa. Yeah. And he fell in love with this, this cam girl named Sylvia who, like, just was literally doing her job.

She picked the name Sylvia? No, her name, her cam name was something else. Her name was like, okay. I was like, that's an interesting. Yeah, she was, she was, she was Bulgarian and she was literally just doing her job. Right. Being a hot girl doing her thing. Great.

And, yeah, so anyway, he felt, he became obsessed with her and took out basically $200,000 in total of fraudulent loans in his family's names, did financial crimes, did identity theft, wrote a bunch of bad checks, opened a bunch of accounts, basically just. That's. did all this stuff to and she never asked him for money either No but she's got some pussy Right so then after he did all of that His family took him to rehab

Yeah And like did extra work And like tried to help him And then he just basically was like I've disappointed them so much though So then he killed them all And tried to make it look like a murder suicide And anyway Aaron's wife saw this docu-series

And was like fuck yeah I'm in love we love this It's it really is insane What shame will do to a straight man. Yes. Because I think sometimes society doesn't teach you how to process shame. And shame's a very hard thing to process.

And shame is a difficult emotion. So the fact that this guy felt ashamed and then was like, I'm going to murder my family execution style is like, this is like, we need to figure this out. And I think, I think it was too, like, because they were like, we'll take you to rehab. And I guess his mom was like sneaking his phone back in so we could talk to Sylvia because She just loved him. Oh, his family, like, loved him. Yeah. And I guess they were, he, I don't even think he didn't love his family. I think he was a shame. He was, he loved his brother and he, I think loved his mom and he had some weird stuff with his dad. But still, his dad was like, I'll work extra hard to make sure that, like, we can pay this back and just please don't talk to the Bulgarian cam model again. He was like, I will kill you all execution style. Yeah, I, shame is crazy. Yeah, it is not great. So, anyway, all of this aside, you're probably thinking, well, there had to be something. There had to be something. There had. had to be something. There'd be something that made her drawn to this guy. So warning. Oh, no. The following video is upsetting.

A video. Oh. Do we all put on headphones? It's upsetting because it is the closest we will ever personally experience. To God. To being in a romantic relationship with this man. Period. Oh. In general. Ever. Yeah. I just want to let you know I'm thinking about you and I miss you very much. And everything about you just makes me so happy. And I just love you with all my heart, baby. And I'll protect you always. I'll love you five ever.

I mean, that's for someone. I love you five ever. Hello, my precious little kidding. He said that that was from prison. He said, I love you five ever from prison. Five ever. After murdering his family. Okay.

Next. Oh, yeah. What are your takes? It's for someone. It's not for me. But it's for someone. It's for someone five ever. Like there is someone out there who's like, yes.

So here's someone for everyone. Here's my conclusion. Both Aaron's wife, ex-wife, and this fucking guy, both of them would rather kill their families than disappoint them. Then feel shame, yeah. Shame. My take overall is we need to normalize disappointing your family. Yeah. Yeah.

It's that we need to learn how to deal with shame and people need to be okay with the fact that sometimes you will make other people upset and it's okay. Yeah. And I'm not great at this. I'm not great at being okay with disappointing people. And yet I still be disappointing people, you know. Teach the children's shame. Yeah. So, so.

Put it in cocoa melon. Yes. Yes. Put more shame in cocoa melon. And that was my hyperfixation of the week. Thank you so much. Nice. Okay, then I guess like maybe to go out on, you know, based on this.

Mack, one's a time that you disappointed your family. I mean, it is Pride Month. No. Oh, my God. I feel like, I mean, becoming like, go. Going into the digital media realm, when your parents don't know what it is, there's that little bit of like, oh. Yeah, your parents were... You could have been a rocket scientist, you know?

And they did non- YouTube jobs. Non- YouTube. They had no idea what I was doing for a long time until, like, I started getting, like, invited to places, flown out to places. They're like, oh, this is a thing. And then I wanted a award. And they were like, okay. So you are like a legit person. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, yes, guys, I've been doing this. Mac does it. Yeah, I've been doing it. I've been doing it. Wow, that's beautiful. What's the time that you've disappointed your family? I've disappointed my family in my, definitely in my early and mid-20s by my dating choices and by how much I like the feeling of being drunk. But like not one big event, just sort of like across the board like, okay.

okay, can we be done with this now? Come on, can we be done with this? And we'll find out, hopefully. Totally. How about you? God. If only I could count. If only I had the ability to count.

I've disappointed my family and that I haven't learned how to count yet. Yeah, no, they're always calling me being like, can you teach her, please God? She's 30. Can't count. Obviously, getting tattoos. Oh, yeah. That disappointed my parents. But then they liked it.

Yeah, lots of, lots of disappointing there. My, right out of college, I worked at Entertainment Tonight, E.T. And my job was I was putting together footage for the obituaries. That's so good. And it was, I was guessing what the obituaries would be. Right. You were, you were planning future obituaries for people who had not died yet. I was being like, Larry King's going to go soon.

I have a feeling. And then I would put a bunch of videos of Larry King in a file that's like, Larry King. death so that when it happens people can fucking go go go go go your job was just to like to predict predict who's going to oh wow and then like or like there were people we couldn't

predict and also it was sad because anytime somebody went to rehab we had to be like let's prepare the file just in case oh my god no it was a dark job like that is such a dark job journalism right but that was my job and my Romanian grandmother who was

an old woman and didn't know funny what that was for some reason thought I was writing at S&L like she heard entertainment tonight and she heard I'm doing the entertainment tonight obituary so she was telling all my family like Sidnichkos write in life and everyone was like calling me being like oh my god sit are you moving to New York what's happening and I was like no I'm predicting Larry King's death in Los Angeles that's my job that is amazing and so So that's a time I really disappointed my family, all of them. I love that. You impressed me with that. Yeah, well, you know, I did predict Larry King's death. For years, I was saying, we've got to get on that file. And everyone was like, no, no.

And I was like, we've got to get on that file. Yeah, they didn't get on that file. And then he died. Damn. So rest in peace, Larry King. Rest in peace, Larry King. And thank you so much for being here today. You are an absolute delight.

That's how we're ending it, rest of peace, Larry King. Here's a question. Bye. Where can the people track you down? Where can they find where you live? Where can Sid find where you live? I'm so sorry for asking you. I'll drop my location at the end of this episode.

Are we close enough to share our locations now? We try to get every guest on the pod to share their location with us indefinitely after. You just have dots all over the map. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll just show up sometimes. But you can find me anyway. If you search Mac, it does it. It's M-C-D-O-E-S-I-T. That's how you spell it.

You did it. That's how you spell it. You did that. That was great. I loved that. You guys, until next time, um... I thought you were going to do the gun. I don't even know what that one is.

I think that was a bunch of shit falling down the stairs. Thank you guys so much. Definitely go check out the Patreon. We've got some extra stuff there. Q&A's. See our episodes early, uncut, uncut, uncensored, extended. Unfuckable. Also, we are trying very hard to answer everyone's questions.

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