Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - Matt Mercer Plays A Critical Role On Our Podcast

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

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Hi! We are going to be doing the podcast live on January 28th at Dynasty Typewriter in LA, but we will also be selling live stream tickets. It's going to be really exciting. You should come check it out live or live stream. We've also got some pretty cool special guests. We've got Angela Giratana and Chance McCrary. Yeah, it's going to be super fun.

So join us. We'll put the ticket link below and... Yeah, hopefully we'll see you there. Yeah. If I were to run into him, like, during Pride in Palm Springs, that would not surprise me at all. prize me at all. Like that, that man could work. I mean, he could pull on Grindr. Oh, yeah. Grinder. Grinder. Welcome. Welcome to the big bad podcast for you. It's Sid and Olivia Talks shit. I'm the

Sudwin. I'm the Olivia one. Today we have a very special other one. Guys, we're losing our shit about this other one. This is the cool, this is the coolest thing that's happening all day. That's not a big compliment. I know. I know. I'll take it though. I'm so sorry. No, No, no, it's fine. 10 a.m. Day just started. Started for me, too. Guys.

It is a cool person, though. Today we have Matt Mercer on the pod. Hi. Yeah, this is Sid's sound box. That's beautiful. I love it. I'm glad you brought that. What's cool about it is that sometimes it goes off without her consent.

Often. Often. So, like, she'll be in a parking lot and it'll just. And then, like, a woman in front of me will be like, who did that? And that did actually happen. Yeah. And then Sid has to. be like, who did that? And I literally was just me and this woman and I had to be like, oh, I can't

wish a little. I don't know who did that. And now you're dating. And now we're dating and so that's gorgeous. You too. You too could stand in front of me in a parking lot and unluckly end up with me. For the dumb cucks who are stupid, maybe cuffs. If there are cucks in the audience who don't know who you are and what you do, would you explain the concept of critical role to the cucks who are cucking? Okay. How best can I put this? in what's what's the language in cuck language yeah yeah cuckish clinglish yeah yeah no uh so yeah my name is matthew mercer i'm a voice actor uh video games

and cartoons and me and a bunch of voiceover friends of mine that we met to the industry uh 10 years ago began streaming our d and d campaign online uh and we didn't think anybody would watch and we were very wrong and now we're in our fourth main campaign among many other weird endeavors that involve having our own tabletop game that we released last year called Daggerheart. That's doing extremely well. We have two animated series based on our campaigns, one both on Prime Video, one that's called Legend of Box Machina.

And another one that just is, as we're recording this, is four episodes are out right now called The Mighty Nine that we're really proud of. Wow. That's huge. So, yeah, apparently being a nerd in high school eventually paid off. It really does sometimes. One day it's going to pay off for me. I know it.

one day. One of these days. It helps to only be a nerd in high school because I gave that up. Yeah. Why don't you graduate? I knew I was doing it wrong. Why did you graduate? You get into sports.

Matt, I got rid of my scoliosis brace. So shouldn't I be hot now? Well, you could pull it out of your closet and we can get you popular. Yeah, let's get it back on you. That would be crazy. I should do, oh my God. Wait, I should do an only fans where I just put on my scoliosis. Only curves and they're like, oh.

Oh, my God. Only curves you're expecting. It's not the curves you're expecting. spinal curves. Spinal curves, bad one. Yeah, which is the... Actually, it must be flexible. Actually, it's the opposite.

It's the opposite. So inflexible. So inflexible. Yeah, when you touch me, it feels like an exoskeleton. It's perfect. Those xenomorph dreams. I think we should do a fun segment just to start us off to get us in that young. Okay, so here's the thing.

Here's a thing. Obviously, you're like the president and captain of D&D, right? I don't know about that. In general. Like, that's, and that's agreed upon. That is not. Like, we've gotten the votes in and you're... There it is.

Oh, I thought you were going to do a sound. We're learning kind of the basics of D&D still because we really want to get into it. But we do know about... Alignment charts. Yeah, alignment charts. Oh, boy. Yeah, alignment charts are a really fun thing because you see them in memes all the time. Even if you don't know what a D&D is, you always see the chaotic,

good chaotic evil. Can we look up an alignment chart? Yeah. Yeah. You got the lawfuls. You got the neutral. Yeah.

And so it's sort of like a tick-tack toe of how how law-abiding you are and how moral you are, correct? More or less, yeah. It's a vestige from the original old school D&D game where everyone needed a chart

to tell you how things worked. Yeah. It was a very, very math-centric game in the very beginning. But it's been a very useful tool for, for Mimi. for figuring out how characters could exist in a very math-based world. What we would like to do is kind of decide of certain people, characters, things in the zeit guys.

Yeah, we want to, like, say some things, and then you can tell us what you think. We can discuss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where that person or thing falls on this. Sure, sure. I'll do my best. Okay, perfect. And also, the other really good thing about this game is that there are no wrong answers

and anything you say is right. I disagree. I hold myself to a very high standard. So this segment is called, I'm charting music. Stop the music. Okay, perfect. The song plays for so long.

I don't know if you heard that. It plays for a really long time. So I want to start off with like food mascots. I think that would be a really good group to start off with. Let's start with something I think, you know, the main food mascot in these streets. Let's start with Ronald McDonald. Ooh, Tony the Tiger snubbed.

we'll get there oh boy look I mean at first glance this says should Ronald McDonald be fired from bioethics today should Ronald McDonald be fired what did he do? That's what people are talking about

according to the Star Tribune Daddyo blog Public health advocates have written a letter to the CEO of McDonald's to stop marketing their food products to children Look at the, before that it says their claim, the happy friendly clown with the red hair is seducing children to eat McDonald's happy meals and thus is contributing to the rising BMI's. Here's a question. Did we need to phrase it like that?

I don't think we needed the words seducing if I'm being quite on us. Could we coercing? I mean, coercing children is also a terrible bad name. I think it's a perfect bad name. What are you talking about? So look at this guy and would you trust him with your kids? Absolutely not. Here's the thing.

At first glance, the clown aesthetic makes you feel like maybe crazy. chaotic. But no, no, he works. He is the face of one of the most successful and far-reaching corporate structures in the world. That would put him in the lawful category, definitely. And I'm going to say lawful evil because of the negative impact it's had on health in general, let alone children's health. As this article is rightly pointing out, thank you, Star Tribune. Yeah, you can't put him in the good category once we have the phrase seducing children in the first paragraph. Not with that face. Not with that face. No. See, I put him in lawful evil as the representation of this dark corporate lawful entity. That's really good. And you know, I'm not seduced.

No, I don't even feel a little bit seduced. I don't even feel a tiny bit seduced. Okay. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, I used to go to McDonald's and only get the toy. Oh, yeah? Yeah, because I just was obsessed with the toy because I'm a decorator crab and I just like, if someone I love gives me a bottle cap, I'll keep it forever. And then that's also a problem. So someone you love, which was the corporation of McDonald's, yeah, gave me a toy and you're like, I'll keep it forever. They would be like, our toy is Furbys now. And I'm, and I'm, I go every day to get all the different Furbies and be like, I don't want the food. They start recognizing the managers like, Miss, you have to leave.

Yeah, they're like, you have to at least buy the food. Yeah, no, because this was last year. Yeah, obviously. I just remember saying to my mom. This is in the future. I was elderly. Yeah. I just remember saying to my mom, tell them I'm a boy.

Oh, because they'd be like, is it a girl or a boy? Is it a girl or a boy? For the happy meal. The thing you're feeding. The thing you're feeding. Is it a girl or a boy? And then my mom would be like, it's a boy. And I'd be like, fuck.

Yeah, mom. Fuck you. And then it would always be like a CD-ROM game of like Hot Wheels. I love that shit. Anyway, moving on. All right. Let's do Tony the Tiger next. Oh, great.

Great. Yeah, Tony the Tiger. What a guy, am I right? Oh, wait, can we look at this sexy photo of him laying down with his arms? Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Wow. He looks so relaxed.

I wish I had a bandana with my name on it. I can get you that. That's a reason. Now, that is a reasonable ask for. I can get you that. I'd put him in like a neutral good category, I'd say. He's very helpful in most of the media I've seen about him. He's like helping kids at sports practice.

He's like a soccer coach. Yeah. And he's not like an abusive soccer coach. Like you know when you see a that we know well. You know when you see a little league game and it's like, I don't actually usually watch those. And like the coach is just like screaming at the kids like they're professional players. And it's like those are eight year olds.

When I played soccer as a child, there was another coach that said to the kid on his own daughter. He said, now remember, sweetie, if you can't kick the ball, kick the girl. That's fucking sick and nice. Just in general. Yeah, just in general. If you can't kick the ball, kick the girl. See, now that's something Tony the Tiger would say. Yeah, great.

If you can't kick the ball, kick the girl. Yeah, like I wouldn't say lawful because he also looks kind of like the uncle that would like buy you beer when you're in high school. Get buy me beer when I was in high school. Yeah. See? Yeah. Yeah.

He said all we know about him. Yeah. I'll put him in like the neutral good. Okay. I love that. Yeah. I kind of think he's neutral good too. Yeah.

And also like I think frosted flakes are pretty much fine for you in the scale of how bad things can be for you in cereal. Also in terms of how much I like them because I like them a whole dang lot. Also, you know what? I, if I were to run into him like during Pride in Palm Springs, that would not surprise me at all that like that. Yeah. That man could work. I mean, he could pull on Grindr. Oh, yeah.

Grinder is great. Wait, Tony the Tiger X-Brinder. Rebrands as the grinder representative. I think that would be perfect. And I really do see him at Palm Springs Pride, which happens in November. It would say, Tony the Tiger is point three miles away from you. Great. Incredible.

He has two bandanas on. Wow, I love him. We're going to, let's do, can we do, uh, Kim Jong Il. Let's do the classic food mascot, Kim Jong Il. So what do you think? So what food is, does Kim Jong-il sell said? Um, gushers. Oh, yeah.

Have you, remember how Kim Jong-il has been selling gushers lately? Yeah, he's always on the pack of gushers lately. He's dead. Remember how like AI, reformed Kim Jong- Like, Post-Taylor to sell us gushers. Isn't it so weird that Kim Jong-il is the posthumous gushers mascot? I hate a posthumous mascot. We should have seen it coming.

If you were to be the posthumous mascot of any food. And choose wisely because they will do this once you die. What would you consent to and what would you not consent to? I would consent to frosted mini-weets because it's an underappreciated cereal for deliciousness. That's fair. And a bit challenging for some. But you know what? You got to work for it. Yeah, you got to cut your mouth.

Oh, absolutely. Captain Crunch is the king of that. Matt Mercer, cut your mouth. Parathases from the grave. Yeah, that's good. That's pretty good. That's me my epitaph. Yeah, that's a good epitaph.

Yeah, that's a good epit. Who needs context. Would not give consent to? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Just paste. Yeah, hate that. Yeah.

I hate when they try to use my likeness to ha paste. Yeah, it's gross, it's useful. It's, yeah. On your tombstone, don't use my likeness to hawk paste. Yeah, you can't eat paste. Cut your, cut yourself. Cut yourself. Cut yourself.

Cut yourself. It's evolving here, guys. Wow, it's so crazy. It's the meanest grave in the whole graveyard. It's really specific, though. It's really specific, and it's pretty hostile. I'll take it. Okay, what about the tricks rabbit?

Okay. Well, they're for kids. The tricks rabbit is fucking weird, dude. No, he's a fox rabbit. He's on a list. But he's a victim. Sorry? He's a victim.

Well, hurt people, hurt people. Yeah. He's just trying to eat the cereal and they won't let him. Can't they share it with him? Okay, so wait a second. Here's what I'm realized. Yeah. He's not hunting kids.

No. No. No, they're hunting him. Right. Yeah, some people have been really bad at getting his narrative right over the years. So it's not your fault. No, and that's the media. Okay.

And that's why you can't trust everything you see on social media. So that's fake news? Yes, that's fake news. My whole for you. pages, what they won't tell you is the tricks rabbit is hunting kids. He, in my opinion, is a victim. Okay, so, okay, okay, got it. So the tricks rabbit

just don't look up tricks rabbit kids. So the tricks rabbit just wants the cereal and the kids are like, hey, silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. Yeah, but like, can it fucking be for both? Anyway, that doesn't mean he's good. I'm just saying like They're back and they're in six-fruity colors.

He wants tricks for everybody, himself included. Yeah. And, you know, maybe they're looking out because he's a biological rabbit. And I don't know if rabbits can digest cereal. I don't think they should eat it. But I don't think they do. I'm not a – maybe I shouldn't be making that decision for that. Nobody asked him how old he is. What if he's a kid? Oh, my God. No one asked him if he's a kid.

So I'm put him in chaotic neutral territory. He's not evil. He's just looking out for himself. And he's like you said, he's a victim of circumstance and society. Cassim is looking up. Oh, my God. How old is he? He's 56. He's so 66. Gosh, I need to get my eyes checked. He's 66.

But like in the lore, though, not logistically. Right, right, right, right. Well, look up. How old is the tricks? Yeah, thank you. In the lore. In the lore. He's 65 in the lube.

Okay, now that makes a big difference. But in the lore, he's 65. Which means he always has been 65 as his character. Correct. But now he's been in existence. He is the omega. The trickshabbit has always been and will always be. And he's chaotic neutral.

Yes. Oh, my gosh. Okay, well, here's a good one. How about the Kool-Aid man? Oh, he burst through walls. Yeah, because he's not lawful. I... Right?

He's not lawful. He's bursting through walls. No, I'd put him at true neutral because I do not think he is a sentient entity. I think he's a force of nature. Wow. He just is like a storm. He's like a hurricane. Yeah.

Is it tornado evil? No. No. It just is. Such is the Kool-Aid man. Oh, no. The person who makes it is evil. That's Madam Morble.

Correct. Madam Morrible. Wicked Witch. Madam Morrible. That is her. There can be a thousand people in a room. Yeah. Yeah.

Madam Worbel, wicked witch. So wait. I have a question, though. Does a hurricane say, oh, yeah? Well, if Madam Morrible... Can a hurricane say, oh, yeah? Anyone who could hear it probably is already gone. Yeah, that's such a good point.

We have no way of knowing if a hurricane can say, oh, yeah. And that's what the media is not telling us. And that's what the media is not telling us. My news feed just says Hurricanes can't say oh yeah My news feed is the bunny is trying to capture the kids And hurricanes can't say oh yeah Wait okay, okay another question

So the Kool-Aid man has a face though Yeah And that has nothing to he can't Hurricane has an eye That's true Holy fuck I'm so sorry I ever spoke I'm going to shit myself I'm so sorry I ever spoke actually

You should be Okay so we decided he's A true neutral True neutral. True neutral. Okay. People are weird about talking about money. Most of the time we only talk about money once we've made it.

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Oh, yeah. That bothers me. I have a problem with chick-fil-a regardless. Same. I've never had it. But that's because I'm not fucking homophobic. Yeah, I've had it. And I thought it was okay.

I've had the sauce. It was okay. This was years before all the stuff came out. Am I the only person, like, whenever I drive by one, I quietly, like, just flick it off as I drive by. Yeah, yeah. I don't make sure. No, here's the thing. And I had Chick-fil-A once as a child.

Okay. Or middle school, maybe. Is it dry? Horrible diarrhea. Oh. Yeah. I got horrid. Horrid.

Horrid. Horrid. Okay. Because the corporation was trying to poison me. And that's on my for you page. They were trying to poison the gay out of you. And that's on my for you page. And that's on my for you page.

Eat more chicken. Yeah. So I have a couple problems with Chick-fil-A. One of them is the obvious one. The other one is, I hate these ads. Okay. What is the... These ads are disturbing.

They're pretty gross. They're homicidal cows essentially begging for their life by sacrificing another farm animal. Yeah. Yeah. I put this closer to like chaotic evil territory if anything. And I don't know if it's necessarily them. I think there's a madame moribal style overlord.

Now, here's also the thing. in this picture particularly, and I'll explain for the listeners who are not watching, and if you are listening and not watching, I guess pull over the car and watch. Yeah. Eat more chicken. It's these three cows. They're wearing signs that say eat more chicken. Only one of them can spell. They all look jailed and maybe in like guillotines. Like there's something and they're all on like two feet. Like there's something very evil and weird. It is the most unappetizing food advertisement I have ever seen in my life. Yeah. It's very cult-like. It's like it feels very.

what was the Westboro Baptist Church vibe, where it's like they meet on weekends and get together to make these signs. They protest chicken funerals. It's like very, very disturbing, the layers this could go. And maybe it's just like the neutral cow face at all. It's just, it's very smug and knowing.

Yeah, if they were like animated cows, maybe that would do something. Here's what I'm going to also say is learn to fucking spell losers. That's such a good. More M-O-R, chicken, C-H-I-K-I-N. How do I believe that you learned how to stand? on two feet and create signs, but you couldn't learn how to spell. And that's what the media will tell you.

Also, wait for the paint to dry. Yeah. Look at that. I just looked messy. Yeah. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Okay.

How about, here's another of fast food mascot. Where on the chart does Jared from subway fall? He's bad. So he's bad. And let's not forget, he's bad. I looked up food mascots and that's on the list. Now, here's the thing about Jared from Subway. So I was like, well, if we're charting people.

I think he's chaotic. No, no, no, sorry, sorry. I think he's neutral evil. I don't think he's chaotic evil because he used rules for his evil. That's the thing. Does that make him lawful? That would technically make him more lawful evil. Yeah.

If he sits squarely within, like using a structure of power for his own self-gain. I think he was lawful evil then. Then that would sit in lawful evil, probably. And look, look, you know, my dad called that. Right That's awful evil No my My dad was like

That guy's lawful evil When all of the Jared ads Were running My dad was like That guy's a pettle And we were all like Come on dad But my dad just says

Random shit about people He calls everyone a pettles Yeah So we're just mutant power Yeah he's like That guy's fucking He's like there's something fucking wrong with that guy

There's something wrong with that guy And everyone was like No Ray Like he just lost a bunch of weight And he's happy about it You say that about everyone You say that's mom predicts earthquakes all the time

And sometimes they have and my dad calls people all the time and often they are. What a weird like predator vision that would be? They should team up.

They should team up to find out which earthquake is a pittal. Yeah. Yeah, so Jared Fogel catching a monster. I watched that.

I watched that. It was upsetting and I wouldn't recommend it just because it's upsetting. So we think he's lawful evil? Yeah, because he manipulated a structure of laws.

He was like, yeah, get me in the schools. so I can speak. Like, chaotic evil would be like, let me, um... Oh, God! Oh, that's a jump scare. That is the worst. Oh, God.

Oh, God. I literally never... He's... Oh, my God, he's such a... Remember when... Yeah. Like, how could you not see it, everyone, but Ray? Yeah, I mean, he's in this, like, got milk campaign.

It's disgusting. Oh. Okay, so we hate that. Let's go to the cannibalistic cinnamon toast crunch mascot. Because that is crazy. And that's not a pet. No, but it is a cannibal. Sure, sure.

Look at this guy again. It's been a minute. Big tongue. Yeah, could you put, could you do the one where he's stalking the other one? Big tongue. Yeah, not the old, the actual. Big tongue, long tongue. You know what they do, right?

Yeah, that, that's. They eat each other. They do. And you know, that that's an interesting way that like people decide that they're going to like market food. It's so good the food wants to eat the food. Yeah, it's a cannibal. Here's the question. Is it cultural?

Huh. Because that could be beautiful. It could be. I don't want to disrespect you like, you know. Is it cultural that the food eat that the cinnamon toast crunch eats the cinnamon crunch? Right, right. Is it called? Because I know what it's not. It's not like an emergency. It's not like a Donner Party situation. It's not like a L of Jack. It's so many options. No. No. No, that's. See, I'm not going to call this cultural. This photo to me looks really predatory and weird. Yeah. Do we think? This is going to lean to Tate Akeval, I think. This is serial killer. vibes. Chaotic evil. And if it's cultural, what is it then? Cultural?

Chaotic neutral? No, lawful neutral. Lawful neutral. Because then it's part of a... Abiding by a system of laws. Wow. So even if it's just like religious doctrine, I don't know with the great entity, the cinnamon toast crunch worship, but if like it's, you know, the memory of those

that are about to pass and they have, to eat of them is to take memories into yourself. Right. Because we don't know the age of the ones that have been eaten. It's true. It could be that that one's on death's door. Yeah, that one's on my, that's on my FYP. Yeah, and that's what the media won't tell you. Okay, so wait, then that's an interesting thing of, like, lawful.

It could be, like, a cult. Like, it could be just, like, anything where there's, like, an organized, like, structure. Yeah, if there is a power structure that is, you work within and utilize to gain your own selfish, you know, evil means per se, or even just lawful means, that that's kind of where a lot of the lawful aspects sit. That makes sense. The lawful neutral would be like, I follow this law to a T or this, this structure of rules. Regardless of the morality. Yeah. It's just this is how things are.

Yeah. Good and bad can come out of it. It's just how things are. And then a neutral on the on the Y axis would be like, sometimes I follow the rules. Sometimes I break the rules. But I do both. Correct. I swing both ways.

Yes. Right. Right. Neutral is bisexual. Neutral is the bisexual of law abiding. Oh, good, good, good. Okay. Yeah.

You know, speaking of cults, this is such a weird thing to say. a person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But one time I was talking to... This is the weird thing to say to a person, yeah. This is a weird thing to say to a person. Up to this point, it's been... One time I was talking to you, and I was like, I had this thought, and I've never had this thought about anyone else. She's actually said this to me before. I have.

About you. I've had this thought about you. I've never had this thought about anyone else. I had the thought where I was like... Rude. Okay, rude. That you haven't had it about me. Is that I was like, I genuinely think you are a person who could successfully, and probably wouldn't, but could successfully start a cult and still keep it ethical. Like, I think you could do the only ethical cult there's ever been. Like, I don't know why. And I, the look on your face proves me right, because it's like, you're not expecting that, right? You're not going like,

ta ha ha ha. No. If you were to, if you were to start a cult and keep it ethical, what would you want involved in it? Oh, is my time up? You have one second, go. It had a light bulb, so I thought it was going to be like you thinking, but instead it was like, you're done. You're done. Okay. Well, that was your answer. Yeah. Like you've got, you've got like a charismatic, like leader vibe.

Thanks. But yeah, but it's like not, it's not a bad cult. It's not a bad cult. I don't. Yeah. I mean like cult generally means bad. Yeah. What do you call a not bad cult?

A community. A community. So I've, so I've made one. Yeah. You are kind of a leader of a community, right? Uh-oh. Oh. So what are you going to do with all that power?

So what are you going to do with that? So how are you going to turn it evil? Find out in 2020. Yeah. Yeah, I don't. Sometimes we do a segment called build a cult. Where we talk about what cult we would fall into or what cult we would start. I like it.

I like it. Yeah. But what one would you start? Well, if I were to start a cult, oh, God, what a good question. I would probably, God, what cult? What I, yeah. Well, it's thinking about, like, you know, a cult is based around a cultural rallying cry. Yeah.

Around an idea or a lifestyle that most society does not seem to be ready for. Right. And so you bring this community around to celebrate this passion or this lifestyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What would be the core of your cult? What's a weird thing I like that not everyone likes? Me? You?

Yeah. Weird thing that nobody likes? Okay. So the cult, you would. Star, he's about you. And then you start a cult about her. And then you start a cult about me. And so on.

I would, yeah, I mean, I would probably, I would love to start a cult about weird animals. Like, I would love to start a cult about like a, like a Binturong or like a, like a Kowadi. We saw a Kowadi in Mexico. He's good. It's good. He frisbeeed him a hamburger bun. He's good guy. He stood on both his legs and ate it.

So I would do that. So then obviously, you know, you run a cult right. now. Yes. What would be your second cult? My second. If you had a side. Yeah, your back.

Side cult? Yeah. You had a side cult. She's just my side cult. Yeah, my side cult. Oh my goodness. It would probably be. It's hard.

It's a hard question. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough because there's already so much proliferation of weird ideas that people are trying to build businesses, cults out of on the internet. An obscure weird thing. That you love.

That I love. Yeah. just just a passion. Intricately painting tiny monsters. That's beautiful. Yeah. That's really beautiful. And is that something you do?

Yeah, it is. And do you do it with what? With what paint? And what's the monster? How do I do it? Well, I have a cult for you. Yeah, no, I have a bunch of, I have a whole section of miniature paints and I love to paint little creatures and miniatures for games and stuff like that. I used to love claymation.

That sounds so, yeah. Yeah, I would, like, build a wire guy and then make him clay and then make a weird movie. Maybe I should do that. See, that's a good cult. That's a good cult, right? A claymation cult. What's great, if nobody shows up, you can make your own cult members. You can make your own cult members.

They can move very slowly over time. Yeah, yeah, super slowly. And they can melt when it gets too hot. That's so fun. I had no dolls at my Bubby and Zeta's house. And so I would draw kids on papers and then write names on the top of them and put them out on the floor. That's good. That's good.

So is that something? That could be a cold. That could be a cult. My thought for a cult would be massage train. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. is just massage train that goes across state lines.

Whoa. I'm at the front. You're at the front. I'm at the front. I mean, it was your idea. It was my idea. I'm at the front. And also, like, you can, if you want to go evil with it, you can be like, well, if I, I get the power of massage.

So if I'm massaged, then all of you guys will be better at massaging. And that's a lie. But that's, that's a couple. Like a spa centipede? Yeah. People ever tried to get you guys to, like, join something that you realized was a I'm an MLM. Scientology.

Yeah, you got Scientologyed. I'm an MLM target. People come up to me in saunas and targets and stuff and try to get me to join MLM. I'm that way too. My wife has continuously pointed out that I have a face that just draws every grifter. Oh, yeah. You got a prey face. Yeah, they're like, you're a sucker.

Yeah. And they made you go to me. Really? Which is why we work well as a partnership because she is the opposite. She's the don't fuck with me face. So together we're fine. If I'm alone, I'm dead. That's good.

That's good. And every partnership needs one, one grift face and one boundary face. That's so interesting. I would have never thought, like, I would never see you on the street and be like, now that is prey. Well, you haven't seen me on the street yet. Yeah, we've only seen him in here. That's so true.

We'll leave here. You'd be like, I get it. Wait a minute. I get it. Yeah. So true. No true. That's so good.

When was the first time you played D&D? I would have, I was my freshman year of high school. No way. Do you remember your character? I do. Escaline Darian, which I would named after a character in a book series that was reading, because that's original. Yeah, I knew about it for a while. And actually, I had some of the books that my mom got at a garage sale. But you need friends to play at the indie. So I didn't play for a while. Yeah, so I just read a bunch of the books. I love the mythology and the lore and the cool artwork of monsters and stuff. And then I was like, imagining my head, the incredible stories you could play and, like, the epic adventures you.

could have and then I finally got invited to play a game with a bunch of like elder classmen. That's a big deal. It was pretty big deal. And I was like, all right, here's my character. Here's this is like two page backstory. And they were like, that's fine. We're just going to, we're just going to roll to kill things, take its gold and slap women on asses. Right, right, right.

This is disappointing. Right. Well, you were like, I need to do the real version of this. I need to do a version of this that fucks. More or less. Yeah. So then you were like, I need to create my own thing. When did that come about?

Yeah. How did you? How did you find the group? How did you, how did this thing get birthed? Critical role? Yeah. That was many, many years later. So like for me, once I left that terrible series of games and kind of-

Did you punch everyone? No. All right. I didn't have friends. Okay. I didn't have nobody backed me up. Okay. You know, I'd draw some kids on papers.

That's true. Put some names on top of the papers. Punch the papers. They're my friends. Punch the punch the papers. Yeah, like I went through years and running these games for friends was kind of like my love. language were like people I wanted to become friends with them like I'll run a game of a d and d for you if you want to hang out more they like trick people to hang out with me that way it worked well

that's actually a really good tip and it still works yeah um but yeah so like about 13 or so years ago uh I had one one of the players in the game currently Liam O'Brien was directing me in a voiceover project for a video game and we were talking about just what we're doing this weekend I was mentioning I was running a game of D&D for some friends and he's like oh I haven't played since I was a I missed that. And I was like, I'll run you a game sometime. And he's like, I'll never find the time. And he was doing a podcast with one of the other players, Sam Riegel,

where they kind of dare each other to do stuff. And so he dared the other guy, like, how about we go play this game of D&D? And the other guy, Sam, is definitely like, I don't care about this. I don't like fantasy or games. And so as part of the dare, we played a one shot and invited a bunch of other voiceover friends of ours

who had primarily never played. We all had so much fun that they wanted to keep playing. And so then it turned into an on-running campaign for two and a half years at home. That's so fun. It became a way where we all bonded as friends. We all knew each other, but we weren't like mostly good friends. Then through this game, we became very, very invested in each other's lives. And it was just something we all look forward to every few weeks to play together.

And then a weird opportunity arose where one of our players, Ashley Johnson, was in a production with Felicia Day, who was starting her own Twitch channel called Geek and Sundry and invited us to start playing on the Twitch channel. We were like, no one's going to watch that. It's four hours of us just rolling dice and talking. And having great voices. That was hopefully part of the pool. But we were like, okay, if you want us to. And we were surprised that people did want to hang around for that. So that's kind of how it all started.

That's so fun. It's so good. I'm so jealous. I want to do that so bad. That sounds so fun. So one shot is when you just play for like one session. Yeah, one session. It could be one contained story that kind of comes.

So I was like a beginning, middle end. And if you walk away, you're all, like, satisfied that that was a fun story. That's lovely. That's delightful. Do you want to do a one shot? Do you want to do one shot? Sure. I know you have my buddy Brennan on here, so that's a tough act to follow.

We did have your buddy Brennan on here. He was amazing and lovely. It's like a magic trick watching him. Yeah, it was magical. It was crazy. It was like we both just kept losing our shit. He does that. Yeah, yeah.

He does that. It was crazy. But we, he basically like led us through a one shot. Like a little mini 15 minute long moment. Yeah. I love it. And he was like, like pick characters, whatever. We did, we threw it dice up on the screen.

Yeah. Perfect. And we just kind of like went through this story and we would freaking die. I would run into the parking lot. To do a fun thing with you. Let's do it. Okay, great. Why not?

So we decided we're going to just do a continuation of our characters from last time, which we will explain. Yes, please. So basically we have actually fan art of these characters that our patrons have made. That's amazing. A couple different people have made it. Join the Patreon. Join the Patreon if you want. We have really fun shit.

We've got movie nights. We write fan fictions. This Clippy thing that says long live Clippy is from our very, very sexual Clippy X. J.D. Vance. that mirrors both the plot of wicked and the story of Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. As it should. So, so, uh, spoilers. Um, long live clipy. Uh, and yeah, we, we do, we do fun little Q&A moments. We do everything. Yeah.

Lots of really fun stuff over there. And it's cheap. Go check it out. People made some, okay, so this is crazy. So this is my, my girl. Her name is shit starter. Um, and she's a Griffin and she's kicked up and she's just like kind of a baddie. And yeah, and she fucks is another thing that we learned. And then the other one, this is. So this is mine. This is a goblin named Horseshoe. Horseshoe and shit starter.

Yeah, Horseshoe speaks in rhyme. Horseshoe cannot not speak in rhyme. horseshoes just kind of a little guy I think in the last game we revealed that he had a Kickstarter for a movie he was thinking of he wants to be topless in his own movie yeah so he's kind of packing

he's kind of packing he's kind of packing yeah he I think he's mostly yeah it's essentially like this if you were to run into like some little guy in like Highland Park yeah like a little silhouette guy I would really love to do some artistic ventures I think I've run into this guy yeah it's like at the lodge room yeah yeah it's that

except it's a goblin and it's horseshoe. Yeah, and he speaks in rhyme. Just like most small Silver Lake Highland Park men speak in rhyme. There you go. It's the classic. They've got the mustache. They've got the book bag.

They speak in rhyme. So it's kind of like those guys. Yeah. Picture this guy with a New Yorker tote bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. I love it. So it's these two guys and that's another photo of them.

Oh, I love it. Yeah. They're kind of gorgeous when you think about it. And we were thinking, obviously, the only place these two people, two creatures should be. is the DMV. Okay.

So if you would do us the honor. And, you know, the DMV can include whatever the fuck you want. I'll be happy to. Okay, good. Well, I guess for context, if you're going to the DMV, that means there's something vehicular related.

What is the, what would be the strange vehicle that would lead you to the DMV with purpose? What are you having to get registered? Okay, so I think, for me, for shit starter, that my, what is it called? The thing you, what's the sticker you put on the back of your car, your registration?

My registration on my own wings has expired and I need to get it renewed so that I can fly without getting pulled over. Okay, gotcha. And how about you? I think horseshoe stole a moving box from a U-Haul store and wants to get registration for it. to transfer it into your name so that he can ride it across state lines. I also just was at the DMV. That's awesome. Yeah.

And what was that like? It was, oh boy, it was awesome. It was just great. Yeah, yeah. So you let us know what to do. All right, great. So, shit starter, horseshoe. We'll say here in this fine early, early Monday morning,

this pouring rain, soaking the streets around here. Heavy mists have curled around in the various kind of darkened shadows in the distance of building structures, kind of, you know, curl overhead as you begin to walk down the cobblestone street. You hear the muttering of other folks in heavy coats themselves, kind of just unfortunately pushing through this, this dire weather as the distant glow of a glass-fronted building. Your destination begins to arise. You see already an extended line of about 12 or so figures shattered against the interior light. this you thought you were arriving early enough to try and beat the line but there are at least a dozen or so patrons ahead of you and you will be soaked by the time you get inside as you step to the back of the line oh goodness goodness and oh goodness me a line i did not make an appointment for me if only i could skip but that kind of person i am not ratat tat tat tat and a ta ta ta ta ta that's really good uh

Oh, God, I'm so hungover. That's all she says. Totally. She's just hung over. God, I'm fucking hung over. I shouldn't have gone to the abbey last night. Right. Been there.

Yeah. The other door opens up and you see a figure come out here, this kind of hippopotamus-looking woman with horn rim glasses and a massive beehired that's starting to get like kind of pushed to the side by the heavy rain that's pouring off the rooftop. Has a clayboard and goes, anybody else with appointments? Anyone? Should we, should we steal someone's identity and preemptive? pretend that we have an appointment?

Oh, diddle, diddle, and oh, diddle, D. I'll use my grippy fingers for me. I'll steal the phone of the lad in front of me and take their QR code for their appointment, you see. Oh, madam me, oh, madam, an appointment, an appointment for I. All right, I'd like to see if you roll to successfully steal this phone from the patron in front of you. Okay.

This is really good. Nine. Nine. What is that? So you reach and hold the phone up as you tap, and the hulking figure in the line ahead of you who was like, oh wait, I do have an appointment, reaches back and catches your hand right as you're pulling the phone from it.

You see this rotun-looking ogreish gentleman with a thick lower jaw, broken teeth kind of sticking out, a heavy, like, button shirt that you see he bought maybe out 10 years ago and he still thinks it fits him even though he's outgrown up by two different sizes. Like a heavy cabby hat on. Looks back at you go, you, that's my phone. Oh, my wrist, my wrist, my face. delicate wrist, please, oh please don't hit me with your fist.

You see, like, the knuckles had to pull back before it stops. Oh, Horseshoe. Dad! I, I've been trying to find you for years. I never thought I'd see a beautiful face again, and this massive thumb, like, just pushes into your eye. Oh, father, father, oh father of mine, please take your thumb off of mine. That's really good.

My apologies. Oh, well, this is a celebrated day. We should get lunch. Why are you busy this weekend? Oh, we could catch up. We should go fishing like Dad's due with their little horseshoes. Oh, Father, Father, yes, this would be grand. If only, if only I could have a car for this land.

If I could drive to lunch for this, that would be perfect. I have your QR code, poor hips. Poor hips. I'd like to roll again to see how well you managed to convince your father. Oh, that works. That worked. The rain begins to soften for a moment as the swell of violins pick in, coming down to one knee as one heavy, meaty hand hits your shoulder at eye level.

It goes, my sweet boy, I've missed many birthdays, and I regret it every. The reason the day that goes by that I don't look at that weird little watercolor of your face that I made from a dream looks mostly like a horse, but I know it was you. And I know you need time to process. As do I. Here, this appointment is more for you than me. I want you to find whatever that vehicle is. And whenever you feel that you have room in your heart to accept your old Pappy back in, I'm going to take you on such a buggy ride. Oh, father, father, you've filled such a void.

Wait, you're telling me you have an android? It's a beautiful rhyme. I know, I know. At least if I text you, you'll understand why it's green. And, uh, well, I actually work at the Android shop across the way. So come on by and I'll see if I can get you a hook up. Thank you, thank you, my father of mine. Now goodbye, maybe I'll see you again sometime.

Okay. But then, shit-starter recognizes the ogre too. Greg? From the Abbey? Shit-starter? Oh, no. Shit. It's Julie how good to see you. You're looking fit.

Oh, God. This is such a nightmare. Starts like adjusting the collar. Yeah. Oh, this guy sold me bad ketamine at the happy. You fucked my dad. Fucked my dad, you did? It ended really bad, really bad. It did. Now this is disappointing for me and for all. I don't like when my friend fucks my dad at all. Appointments, anybody? Yes.

I didn't get one. I didn't. Give me yours. Oh, okay. Yeah. I will climb into your coat on top of your shoulders, and together we'll sneak into the line right over. Yeah, I'm down.

Okay, we can use the same code. Sure, that's fix it. All right. So as you both come, to clamber together and rush towards where the appointment line is. Let's go ahead and roll a stealth check to see how well you can try and hide your friend. Because you've got stealth. 12?

Okay. Better than average. Yeah. So bumping a few folks in the line, you can see a few people see you kind of, you're a noticeably larger than your campaigns. Oh, huge. You riddle down as, I mean, the rain does help, it kind of slicks the feathers down. But people in the line are like, what do you know what assholes?

Yeah. And you managed to rush and appointment. Sent. Okay. All right, let's, I'll go and scan you in, perfect. All right, now come on inside real quick. You both dot and tied, the door closes behind, and as you kind of look over your shoulder,

you see Craig there at the window with his phone up with his number on and going, Call me. Me? Me? Me? Okay. I'm going to call your dad. I mean, my father has two phones, two phones he has.

I don't like that very much, me, thinks, me, pans. That's really good. You scoot into the front counter. It's massive, like, stone precipice itself kind of cracked at the edges. You see a few lanterns set up on the side and a massive stack of papers and various cartons where they're kept in there, this oddly medieval DMV. But there at the top, you see this, like, strange, crone-like crane being, a long neck with a crooked beacon, massive spectacles that sit on top of it.

Its feathers kind of slowly turning white towards the tips and a large kind of ruffled neck of a, looks like a heavy coat thrown over as it leans forward. Um, and your registering vehicle, perchance? Um, yes.

We, I, need to register for me. Also, some wings. If that's worth, you please. If you please.

Box and wings, very well. Allow me to get your registration paperwork. Massive packets. Oh, shit. ...eat each of your hands with pens that barely work. Oh, God. It is very minimal. You will have two minutes before your appointment time is up.

Please be brief in your time. So you must quickly fill out this paperwork. Let's go ahead and make another roll while we hear to see how dexterously you managed to fill it out. Pretty. Dang quickly. The pens are scratching and got... We go behind her like,

oh my God, are you to see? Oh my God, look at them. They're filling out the paperwork. That's incredible. Get up, go over here. Steve, look at this. People are gathering, you know, like the Bad News Bears music starting to swell up.

Bad News Bears themselves start gathering. Yeah, the actual entire group of kids show up, covered mud. Whoa. It's incredible. The whole DMB shushed like, oh my God, everyone, get out of your lunch break, check this out. Everyone's kind of gather around this massive stack of people, they're breathless, everything's quiet.

Then it gets to the final signature. You both lock eyes in that moment, pens deft with one quick, a glow operates around your signatures as this binding deal clicks into your paperwork. The paper suddenly burst into flames and vanish signed off. And the strange crane creature behind the desk goes, In your haste, you failed to read the fine print. For indeed, I saw you flirting with Craig outside, and you told me you'd call me back after we danced.

Oh, shit. Creature! Oh, shit. Devin? You said you'd see me? Oh, shit. Okay, so, uh, this is... This is Devin.

Oh. I forget. Okay, I'm on so much ketamine. Oh, shit start. Oh, fuck. And just like that, gone be my lucking. That's really good. Oh, I totally was just so blacked out.

How could I make it up to you? Blacked out. That does not suit my concept of consent. You know what? Perhaps we require another chance. Let's go ahead and see if you can roll to persuade this entity. Yeah. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Five. But look at these photos we took together. They pull out their phone and just show immediate picture after picture of the two of you just full on like raving in the corner. And Schittster's eyes are clear as day. Not glassy at all. At all. She's lying.

What's in these photos? What do you see in each of these progressive images? Oh, my God. They're pantsing people. at the abbey, not cool. Not cool. Really not cool. Especially because the abbey is where people go and a lot of people get roofied at the abbey. And I can say that because I've been roofied in real life as Olivia.

Not at the abbey. Not at the abbey. But you know, we're pantsing people. We're stealing people spiked drinks and drinking them. But the Griffin is so big that it doesn't even fucking do anything. We're committing petty theft. You're doing G. We're stealing a, we're stealing a cyber truck and we're crashing it on purpose.

Oh, fuck. And we did so much together. We're friends. We're BFFs now. We're going to get brunch at norms on Saturday for hours and hours. Totally forgot about that. Oh, no, Nino, this cannot be. I have to cross straight lines for me.

At this moment, you realize there's no recourse. The boxes can't be registered. There's an person in at the DMV that has your number and a person else at the DMV that has both your numbers. What do you do to try and escape the circumstance? I think Horseshoe would take... Oh, okay, I think Horseshoe would shit its pants because it emits a goblin disgusting smell. A goblin disgusting smell that would make everyone want to leave the room. Ooh, it's a room clearing.

Okay. All right. Let's go ahead and roll it because they'll say a constitution check. See how well you can. Oh, it's not that bad. Okay. So three. It's odd.

Your diet as of late as consisted of mostly what? Oh, like hay and rats. I thought you were going to say hair. Hey and rats and hair. And hair for me. Like on their own when digested, awful. But this strange combination has actually become really popular in Oaha with a lot of like the clean body movements, you know, trying to just get the toxins out.

And indeed it does. Instead, it is a rosy sort of floral scent that like, like while your pants are a bit squishy, most everyone around is like, oh, wow, that reminds me of my sixth birthday. The cake my mom got me. So now it's like, that's like my grandma's fresh cookies. I hate when this happens. And then more people flock to the DMV. Oh, no, no, no, this always happens to me.

Everyone likes to smell. and like our friends again, they win the game in the DMV. Oh my God. It is a raucous, magical journey you've sent everyone on to a wonderful crescendo. The opposite of your intended effect. This point, the crane being steps forward and has the arm around both of you and goes like, so where are we going? Shitstarter, do something.

Do something you will. You will or you will or. Plus, watch all of Big Bang Theory. Oh, no, no, no. Okay. So I think shit starter is going to, he's going to pull out like a little, a little egg that can be like a pipe bomb, you know? Like you do at the DMV?

Yeah, like, you know, you pull out a pipe bomb at the DMV? Yeah. Yeah, so I think he's going to lay an egg, right? Because from his lion hole. Yeah. Right. Sure. Lion hole, lay an egg.

And the egg, because it comes out of a lion hole, is a pipe bomb. Yeah, it's an explosive. But I don't know if it's going to work. Let's find out. Let's go ahead and roll. Come on, man. 12. 12, not bad.

It takes you a minute to kind of force it through. You know, the Griffin piping is a little obtuse. Yeah, everyone's watching. It's really weird. Yeah, and I was cheering. Why, like, are you feeling okay? Like, I do need water or something. You look a bit, uh...

Oh, don't worry about me. All right, well, come. Let's all jump into an Uber and get to my place. Oh, fuck. Before all of a sudden, foon, fire it out with an intense burst of energy. It slams into the ground. Cracks into just a mild bit of, like, Griffin mess.

And you see a couple of like the Bradd News Bears kids are like, oh, that's pretty embarrassing, but they get that far into before. Oh shit. It detonates in, oh shit. A massive Griffin shit explosion out of the egg. That's how Griffin's work. We know this. We all know this. Of course.

detonates. Not enough to like dismember anybody, but enough to like we're talking cartoon like blow hair back, you know. Everyone's got cartoons. Yeah. And at which point the shadow, the glass at the front shatters outward. the alarm start going off. People start screaming and running. They're like, what happened?

Griffin's explosion, run! People begin to scatter the middle of this chaos, this insanity. Even your crane hang around and is like, what's going on? You've been panicked. What do you do? You should use your sneaky hands to grab a registration for me. Yes.

I'll grab two registrations from the back of the desk. Who cares if they match our vehicles, perhaps? And now let us run. get onto my back. Why would we do that? Because I am strong, a rat-tat-tat-tat. All right, so you're going to go ahead and quickly jump behind the counter to see if you can grab some registration papers for both of you.

Let's go ahead and roll. One of them's for a Toyota Camry. Oh, no. So we got a one. Well, you grab some paperwork. Perfect. You're great. This is mail-in, too, which is awesome. You both dart through the chaos of the crowd.

Out into the rain, you hide it within. What would you hide it in? Of course, my skin. She puts it in her skin. big heavy skinful. I'll put it under my wing. Yeah. Great.

Awesome. You both dart out into the storm. It's now pouring again. You hear the chaos behind the police sirens in the distance. This car is going to pull up. Obviously, there was some unexpected Griffin shit bombing. Yeah. At the DMV, there's going to be an investigation.

It'll take them at least three or four days before they link it to you and have bring you in for questioning. But in the time being, you both eventually get back to your place where it's nice and dry. You kick your shoes off. You get back to the paperwork. Oh, no. Explain to me what is on this paperwork instead of what you expected to be. Oh, no. It's a nude.

It's Devon's Newt. It's a nude of the crane from earlier. And I'm written in crayon on the back. Yeah, written in crayon on the back is Call me. Call me. And a 555 number. Yeah, which is crazy. Which is crazy. Weirdly she serves in the background of it going.

Yeah, yeah, in the nude. Yeah. Trashed cyber truck in the foreground. Foiled again and foiled for me. This happens all the time to me, to me. That's just beautiful rhyming. It's so good. Thank you.

And with that, you eventually get taken in for questioning. Yeah. And we'll see where the rest of the story goes. That's beautiful. Thank you. Oh, my God. What's a magic trick. That was so.

I swear to God, do you say magic trick? Yeah, it's crazy because you're like participating in the magic trick. But at the same time, your brain is just in like, I'm watching a magic trick mode. Yeah. That's so cool. What I love about tabletop games is it is a shorthand or like a, it's a cheat. code for collaborative storytelling. Yeah. Where even people that don't have a lot of time in their life to feel empowered to be creative or to tell a story themselves, it's a framework in which

you and friends can create something, create moments, take, you know, actions and make choices that influence this story that nobody knows where it's going to go until it's happening. And you can do that tomorrow, you know, no matter of what experience you have. It's so fun. And like the world building of it too. That's the thing that I'm like, like, the way you guys paint like a scene and talk about like the shadows and the mist. It's like that's the thing I'm bad at. Like, and so I'm just, it's always so impressive. Like it's probably, I'm bad at the shadows in the midst. It's probably really good for your brain too. Like I would imagine. Brain or size. It's brain or size. Like I would imagine that you're going to like live to old age and like, and have so much going on in here that you'll

be able to be fine. I hope so. Yeah. Or the very least, I'll be quiet in the corner and be like, he hasn't talked in 15 years, but in here, it's magical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never ending story up here. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, we're feeling you living to old age. Can we roll that? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Where can the big, bad people find all your stuff? You can find me at Matthew Mercer Vio on Instagram.

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