Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - Mental Health is Sexy!

Episode Date: October 5, 2021

Syd and Olivia are riddled with mental health issues and you are too!! Welcome to the episode where we talk about how being nice to yourself is actually very hot. Listen here or watch on Youtube! ht...tps://www.youtube.com/SydOliviaTube Follow the podcast on social media! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sydandolivia TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sydandoliviatalkshit Twitter: https://twitter.com/sydandolivia About Pierced: Pierced is the first creator-led podcast network that’s making podcasts for the girlies. We’re tired of every man on the face of the planet having a podcast and decided it’s time for a new era of podcasting - it’s time to give the girls the mic 🎤 Pierced podcasts features all your fav content creators in a new light. We collaborate with creators to produce podcasts that speak to the complex and unique experiences of the girls and young women of today – the podcasts we wish existed when we were younger. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:46 The show where we talk about shit. If you are listening to this on Spotify or somewhere like that. First off, hell yeah. Hi. How are you? Hell yeah. Thank you so much. You can also watch this on YouTube. Yeah. If you're on YouTube right now, hi. Hi. If you're on Spotify, you can see our big, big faces along with some cool graphics. and some big animation energy. Yeah, it's like a fun visual time. Come check it out. Why not?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Come check it out. And this episode specifically, you should totally watch on YouTube. Yeah, that's true. Because we're going to be showing you some visual stuff. Yeah, there's going to be some really good visuals. A fun visual element to this episode. We love that.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Okay, well, hell yeah. This is episode three. I know, right? How crazy is that? How crazy? How crazy? And how are you feeling? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Well, thank you for asking Olivia. Of course, of course. I'm feeling fine. I've had a rough week. I'm a little sick today. it's not COVID, I checked. No, I know, I know. So I'm feeling okay.
Starting point is 00:01:40 How are you feeling, Olivia? I'm feeling pretty good. I was on antibiotics for 100 years. You were. That made me kind of Mick depressed. But after that, I was, I'm all good because now they're out of my system. They don't tell you that. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:01:56 They really don't. They really should have like a warning of like, hey, this is going to totally make you so sad. There's been two different times that I've, been on a medication that the pharmacy has just been like, here you go. And no warning. And then, like, I look up like, does this have weird mood side effects? And it's like, oh, yeah, well, it causes suicide. Oh, no. That's a, that's a big thing to not mention. That's a big one to, that's, I'm glad that it didn't affect me that way. Because holy shit. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's a big one to leave out. It's one of those times you're like, okay, I just felt a little bit bad this week.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah. All right. I'll take it. I feel. I'll take it in comparison. Now, we ask each other how we are, not only because it's nice to check in with your friends, but because today's our mental health is sexy episode. Yeah, mental health is so fucking sexy for us. Mental health is sexy, mama. Yeah, a little sexy health for me. A little sexy health for my mind for me. For me, for me, for me.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So, I mean, I think obviously you and I both have mental health issues we deal with, as all people do, pretty much everybody. You know, it's like one of those things where like, look, physical health is a thing, mental health is a thing, mental health is a, thing. They're both, they're both the same thing. You got to make sure that they're, they're good and in check. Yeah, just because, you know, and everybody has mental health, whether it's good or bad. And I feel like we all need to kind of normalize it and go like, oh yeah, whatever, I'm taking a mental health day. Who cares? I think there's something really
Starting point is 00:03:20 interesting about the fact that like our, like this generation is definitely the most depressed and mentally, uh, like struggling with shit. generation? Outwardly. Outwardly. But but but is that because everyone else just kept it in? I think so. I went and killed their families and stuff. Well I don't know if everyone killed their families but I do think there have been a lot of generations of people who like couldn't put a word to the feeling. Yeah. Like for example I feel like I have family members who were older. Yeah. And would like it would be like their whole personality as they like sit in a corner and kind of shake and and they're kind of sad and you're like, oh, but that's just Uncle Cramp.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, and then it's like no Uncle Cramp has depression. Yeah, it sounds like Uncle Cramp has depression. You know what I mean? It's just that someone who's younger would notice that. Yeah. And that's okay. Yeah. But it's always good to go to therapy and if you want to be on medication and are prescribed
Starting point is 00:04:18 that, do that and your whole thing. But we had an excellent idea. Yeah, no, I mean, we decided, here's the thing. Like when you're a kid. When you're a child. They don't really teach you. you about anything that's important. They don't teach you about taxes. I was just going to say, they don't teach you about investing. Yeah, they don't teach you about, um, sex. Like consent correctly.
Starting point is 00:04:43 No. They don't teach you anything correct about sex. They don't teach you anything that you need to know. And they absolutely do not teach you anything about the intricacies of mental health. They never talk about the intricacies of mental health. I mean, and that's crazy that you wouldn't sit down your four or five year old kid and talk about mental health. Intricacies of mental health. The closest you get to it is watching Winnie the Pooh and like Eeyore is a hundred percent clinically ill. But the problem with that is they're all just like, oh no, no, no, that's just him. And it's like that's an issue. No, it's not touching him. Somebody should be checking in on him. Somebody should be like Eeyore, it's time to get some Prozac. Yeah, he needs something. I do Prozac. I do Prozac too. I
Starting point is 00:05:23 fucking, I mean, you know, if Eeyore needed Prozac, he should just go for it. Eeyore needs something. And I think he needs to get some help from a local therapist. Yeah, absolutely. So we decided to help the next generation that we would write children's stories about mental health issues. Yeah. So that you can learn about it from a young age.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah, so that you can, you know, read these to your young, young, young, young children. Read these to the baby in the womb. Read these, just put like a speakerphone up to your womb. And tell them what bipolar is. Scream about bipolar disorder. So that they know. Into your womb. And listen, that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:06:06 That's what we're doing. So Olivia and I decided to write children's stories about different mental health issues. Yeah. Would you like to go first or would you want to? You go first. I'm so curious. I want to know. Of course.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So my story is about depression because I personally have that. Have big depression. Have that. But I'm medicating. hated, I'm good, I go to therapy, I'm all good. So my story is called, and if you're watching this, you can see the storybook that I wrote in the pictures I drew, and if you're listening to this, I'll explain it to you. This story is called The Sad Fish, a tale of depression.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Oh, fuck. A tale of depression by Anonymous. Who wrote that? I don't know who wrote it. Because they said anonymous. No, they said anonymous. So I don't know who wrote it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Okay. Here we go. Under the sea with the trash and the shit. Sorry. Lived a fun, friendly family of fuddled bug fish. The oldest was forbus. The youngest was Frankel. The middle was fidget and the parents were dead.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And then the picture is a bunch of fish that really resemble angler fish. Yeah, those are anglerfish. Except way worse. And then two graves. Two gravestones. You got two graves there. For the dead parents. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:33 The parents are dead in this. It's awesome. As they are in classic children's story beginning. In a lot of Disney movies, the parents are dead. Why not Dr. Seuss books? You've got Dr. Seuss elements and Disney elements so far. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Okay. Next page. Forbesis liked football and Frankel liked tuna. Fidgett liked crying and not being aware. wait. The pictures are a football, which I can drive, seen a football. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't look like a football.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It looks like a croissant. I mean, that's better in my eyes. So much better. I would rather have a croissant than a football. Any day. A can of tuna because they shop. They shop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then Fidgett crying at the bottom of the page. Yeah. All right. Well, that's great. Yeah, okay. All right. You know in elementary school when the teacher
Starting point is 00:08:34 would like lick their finger before they would change the page? I never understood why they did that. They probably don't do that post-COVID anymore. It's pretty weird. Page three. Fidget, my fuddlebug fish family brother. Why are you so sad just like our mother?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Said Forbis whose mother was dead. Fuck. Fidgett, your mind is as dark as a womb. Is there something? something that's causing you gloom, said Frankl, who loved tuna and also was orphaned. So this is... I love a good rhyme that's set up and then just doesn't pay off, like, aggressively. It's my favorite thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:09:20 None of them pay off. I had no access to rhyme zone during this. So these are the two fish huddling around. Oh, I guess I forgot to draw the third fish. But I did draw tombstone. So you got to make sure that the dead parents are included in every page. So far, every page has referenced them. I like to talk about dead parents.
Starting point is 00:09:42 All right, here we go. Page four. All right. I don't know why I feel so bad. Nothing specifically is making me sad, said Fidgett. Just then he felt an itch on the left and a voice screamed out from his big scaly chest. It is I screamed the voice from his scaly chest. chest.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And then this is a... That's the end of the page. It is I screamed to the voice from his scaly chest and then the page ends. Yeah, it ends then. And then there's a picture. Olivia, sorry. I got a doctor's shoes. So the picture is a fidget looking down at his sad chest.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Page five. Okay. Oh, oh, also now he wears a shirt. Oh, shit, okay. Fingit lifted his fish shirt over his nose. Oh, he has a nose too now. Oh, he's still, all new things on page five. So page five's a big break from our last reality.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Page five jumped the shark. Page five jumped the fucking shark. This is a whole new universe. Okay. Fidget lifted his fish shirt over his nose, revealing Phil the icky depression growth. a growth on his chest, which was making him sad, not seen by the public, but still very bad. Phil was benign and not a tumor. Just a mean growth who represents depression.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And then I drew a childfish lifting up his shirt and a big fucking depression. growth coming out of it. And it's horrifying. Wow. Also, spoiler alert, but your art choice for depression is really like a cousin of my art choice for anxiety. Well, I love that because they're in the same series. They are. Okay, well, thank God. We didn't have to like meet about- We wrote these without the other person hearing us. So this is the first time I'm hearing this. I'm glad that we didn't have to like have a meeting about like brand recognition. We linked up mentally and we were like, we know it's a and spiky monster with angry eyes and teeth. Okay, page six.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Hey, I'm Phil and I'll fuck up your day. I'll make your appetite and horniness go away. Fidget the fish, let's think about death. And then I'll encourage you to try some meth. I'll make you gamble your savings away or my name isn't Phil. Fiddledee Day. And then this is a close-up of Phil.
Starting point is 00:12:26 who he's bloodshot he has bloodshot eyes he's a little pig nose he has a little pig nose he's like a scary spiky green man with cigarettes hidden in his hair yeah there they are and a big fist waving up the air he's really angry this guy i mean i would be too if i was born as a depression growth you don't some fish's chest yeah you don't stop crying what fish's chest you're born on it's assigned to you yeah by god page seven oh no said the fish of the fish there were three And I really phoned it in on this page. Perhaps I need some medication for me. I was like hoping so hard as I heard that sentence it was going to end for me.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Fuck. So Fidgett found a therapist through his insurance and found a psychiatrist through his insurance. Yes. And then. Thank God. You got to sometimes just phone it the fucking. That's my favorite. It's my least favorite thing in songs and my favorite thing in books is when a rhyme just says,
Starting point is 00:13:31 fuck you and rhymes with itself. So the illustration is gorgeous illustration. It's beautiful. It's a desktop computer, PC. Which all fish have. Which all fish have PCs. Yeah. And on the screen it says fish therapy.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And underneath it says kelp pay of two sand dollars. Yeah. Now that's pretty cute. That's really adorable. Kelp pay like copay. That's really cute. Come on. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 like copay but with kelp. Come on now. And sand dollars, which sound almost like dollars. They sound like dollars. Except they're the word sand. It has something to do with water. Yeah, I love that. Okay, guys, I'm really killing it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Page 8. That's so stupid. Fidgett tried Selexa. Prozac, wellbutrin, all of the same antidepressants Sid Heller has tried. Anonymous. Yeah, so they know.
Starting point is 00:14:32 They know who. fuck growth that now. Okay. Eventually, this is not a children's book. Eventually, he found the cocktail for him and that lousy growth fill shrunk to the size of a pin. And sometimes he'd grow to the size of a boat. And that is normal because then he'd shrink and the cycle continues. But one thing, oh one thing, would never be fixed. And then you have all of the cycle of Phil. Yeah, there's the cycle of Phil getting big and small. Beautiful. One thing, a one thing would never be fixed. Mr. and Mrs. Fuddlebugfish will always be dead.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And the last page is an in-memorium for the Mr. and Mrs. Fuddle bugfish who are absolutely dead. Oh my God. Wow. I really wanted to touch on a couple things in this story. That's like honestly a thing that I would read to any child in the park. any child in the supermarket. Listen, if that child's not mine, I don't give a fuck what I'm putting in a head. I have seen a child ever.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I will sprint up to it and recite that from memory at the top of my lungs. I will take that child, put it in my van. And I make sure it listens to the story. I will make sure it learns the story. Well, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Thank you so much. Well, it makes me really happy because, you know, I didn't hear your book. You didn't hear my book. No, we did not. And they're beautifully different, but they have so many similarities. that you can tell we're both friends with the same sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I love that so very much. Bad, bad issues. All right. I'm so excited to release these. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know. I'm so excited to self-publish. Yeah. What, what publishing company will, somebody will, right? Penguin. Penguin. Hey, penguin, hit us the fuck up. Hey, penguin, why are you so late? Penguin, why are you so fucking late? You're so late on this story of fidget the fuddlebug fish. Yeah. Okay. It's beautiful. Let's hear it. All right. So. And this is about, So this is about anxiety, a thing that I have. Yeah, and I did it in the style of a Dr. Seuss thing.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Thank God. Right. So helly out of that. All right. So it's called Michaela and the big, big grickle. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Right off the top, not a word.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Just not a word. I chose for like a silly, like creature that could represent it. And it's called the big, big grickle. We've got, and it looks like an angry cactus. And it's like fucking huge. And then Michaela's just like, an awkward girl. That's a pretty good drawing.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Thank you. She's looking up. She's like, oh, no. All right. So here we go. Yeah. Okay. Michaela was just like any young girl.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Boy, was she young and also a girl. She went to school and she went to the pool. She tried very hard and she followed the rules. But one day, Michaela was no longer alone because one day, a big Grickle followed her home. I like that you said one day twice. So there's the big griggle of Michaela. It's pretty much one illustration over and over again in this book. Just of the grickle and Michaela.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And her looking at it like, oh, no, and it being like that. So it's pretty much on every page. All right. The grickle was huge and the grickle was hairy. It loomed over her. It was really quite scary. Michaela asked the grickle. Now, sir, who are you?
Starting point is 00:18:03 And the Grickle replied, I'm your worst nightmare, fuckface, and I'm going to kill you one day. Oh my God. Oh, my God. And the Grickle saying, I'll fucking kill you, asshole. Jesus Christ. Wow, so far, this is terrifying. All right. This is like goosebumps.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Michaela apologized because she was female. Oh, damn. And put exclamation marks all through her email. So she went back to school and went back to the pool, but that Grickle stayed with her. That was his rule. She said, I guess we are friends. What choice do we have? And the Grickle said, your family is going to die and it's going to be all your fault, asshole.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Michaela said, wait, what? And the Grickle's head spun around in a full circle while it vomited acid on everyone in the sandpit and screamed, you're not good enough at anything over and over again for 666 years. This is wild. That's Michaela and the grickle at the pool. Fuck. It yelled till it filled up this bookety book. And Michaela herself was quite shookety shook.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I can help you, Michaela, the good doctor said. The good doctor's there? That TV show. Oh, like the TV show of The Good Doctor. Yeah, the Good Doctor. So the Good Doctor said this. Yeah, he comes in. Okay, we're mixing some eyes.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I can help you, Michaela, the good doctor said, take these pills that sometimes work and sometimes don't. Fuck. He's not that good of a doctor, is he? I can help you, Michaela, the weird yoga woman said, do breathing exercises and meditate instead. So Michaela tried very hard to calm down her mind, and the grickle said, wow, this is really quite fine. Michaela was happy, finally at last. The grickle said, imagine what it would be like to get shot in the head. How fucked up would that be? Now imagine that for the next day and a half and every time you're about to come.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Everyone is pretending to like you. You suck at everything. And here's a drawing of pills. Oh my God. Oh, my fucking God. Okay, this is the last page. Oh, my God. This is wild.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And that's when Michaela realized, this bitch is here to stay. I've got to fight this big cunt every day. Oh my. We're really, we got an X rating on this book. And what to do. And now I realize, no, you know what? Bitch, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And he's so big and scary that if I can do that, I must be pretty cool. Rad-tat-tat-tat-tat. Rad-tat-tat. Yeah, I just filled in the rhyme. Oh, like a tap dance. Yeah, rat-a-tat-tat. They're tap dancing. And when shit's hit, fuck.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And when shit hits the fan in her life, she's okay. because she's used to fighting the grickle each day and she's a bad bitch so i guess that's a yay so i guess that's a yay and that's my children's i like your kids i like that it ends on not totally sure if it's a good ending i guess that i didn't want to be disingenuine about my feelings Here's the thing is sometimes things are okay and sometimes they're not. Yeah. And healing isn't linear. And I guess that's a yay.
Starting point is 00:21:38 And I guess that's a yay. Whatever the fuck you're going through, if you're going through it, fuck yeah. I guess that's a yay. You're fucking killing it. So I guess that's a yay. Yeah. I mean, that's what we can take away from today. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:51 But I guess that's a yay. I guess that's a big yay for me. That's a big yay for me. The funny thing about like when your brain is all like, what? is that like, I don't know, I feel like I have some of my favorite memories like from times where like everything was supposed to be really bad, but then you take it and you go like,
Starting point is 00:22:08 well, I'm just going to do something really silly with this to make myself laugh. Yeah. And I remember there was a certain point, like years and years and years ago when we were filming our web series Sugar Babies. Oh yeah, which was when we were in college. Yeah, we were like 19 and 20.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah. And we were both going through just like 19 and 20 year old, like, oh my God, crazy shit is happening to us and we are just trying to hold on kind of a thing. And for some reason, just like one of my favorite memories ever, because I know like we both just felt so comically fucking bad. Like, so bad. Yeah. And every day we'd be like, no, no, no, we have to make the web series.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Like we have to shut it all out and make the web series, which is like so helpful. It helped us a lot. Oh my God. And for some reason, this one time like always comes to me of like when we went to the BJs. We went to the BJs in Westwood. Because we went to UCLA. And we were dodging craziness all around us and trying to escape from craziness. And we just ordered wings and took black and white photos of the bones.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Of the chicken wings. Yeah. And then air dropped them to everyone else in the BJs. Yeah. And sending air dropping a photo to a stranger in a BJs of a chicken bone. Yeah. make someone confused. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 There are a lot of declines. There's a lot of declines. Yeah. I don't know. There's something about like how how sad I was and like anxious just like solidified that memory in my brain so hard because like I was just feeling so much. And like the more you're feeling shit, I feel like the more you remember something. And like it's so funny because I could be looking back at that whole time being like,
Starting point is 00:23:50 God, I was having such a bad time. Right. But even though I was having such a bad time. on some level, I was having such a fun time on another level that it's like, oh, these are great memories. So, yeah, I don't know. It's just like, it's a good big thing. Yeah, it's a good, it's like, you know, like it's not, it's not glamorizing like the bad parts, but it's being like in those bad times, you really do, especially you and your friends who are kind of dealing with it together. Yeah. Find ways to entertain yourselves. Yeah. And distract yourselves from whatever you're
Starting point is 00:24:21 going through that end up being so silly and absurd and funny. And you go down the line and you go, oh my God, we did this absurd thing because we were just both so sad. We were just like, let's track anything. And we need to just be like kids. Like we need to just totally be whimsical children. Yeah, it's so funny. Like, is there, okay, what, is there anything that you can specifically go to when you're
Starting point is 00:24:44 feeling terrible to, like, cheer you out? I remember when I first was like really struggling with like my first like, my first, like, actual like depressive phase. I was dating my ex-boyfriend at the time who's absolutely lovely and still a really good friend. And when I was really, really upset and when things were bad, he used to just go, let's go outside. Like, let's go outside. It doesn't matter what you're doing. Let's go outside. Let's go in a walk. And there was something that felt so good about just seeing other people enjoying their day.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah. And knowing that like, oh, that will be me one day. It's just not me right now. But it's going to be me one day. No, that's really nice. Also, like, being outside is so nice. Oh, yeah. And it's also just so nice to have someone who can go like, hey, hey, hey, I'm going to force
Starting point is 00:25:29 you to do this thing that's going to feel gross in the moment. And then once you get there, you're going to feel better. That's what all healthy things are. Like, is like things that you're like, oh, in the moment. And then you're like, oh, okay, over time, I actually, good. Yeah. I know that, like, for me, when I'm spiraling, because, like, my biggest thing is I'll just be like, I'll have some thought and I'll be like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And then I'll just spiral into, like. You get stuck in your own head. Yeah, and I'll just like beat the shit out of myself for like, you know, 100 years. And the thing that I've found is that if I can, if something can make me laugh to an extent where it jars me out of that spiral, it's not like all the thoughts and anxiety goes away, but it's like I get almost like a restart button of like how my, my thoughts are working. So like if I can, like, for example, if there's a video of a, of a bird walking around funny. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Those are the best. Or like a secretary bird or an ostrich or like a chicken doing something funny or a cockatoo screaming into a cup. Yeah. Birds aren't supposed to be on this earth. Birds are so weird. They are cursed. Yeah. And I love them.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, they're so funny. I love birds. They're the funniest animal because they're cursed. They're so weird. And they're not allowed to be on the planet. No, secretary birds stomp on their prey. No, they kill things with their big scary legs. They kill snakes with their legs.
Starting point is 00:26:46 They stomp on snakes for fun. That's crazy. Yeah, that's insane. That's crazy. But it is, I do. Chickens are dinosaurs. I've had five chickens.
Starting point is 00:26:53 They are dinosaurs. Yeah, it is, there is something so nice about being like, oh, here's this small, small, small piece of joy.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah. That's just gonna like totally bandaid something for now. A piece of unrelated, like, funniness or happiness. Because like, I feel so often like your instinct when, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:11 you're trying to cheer someone up or make someone feel better when they're having like a bad mental health day is to try to do that. Yeah. Like to try to be like, oh, it's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:27:19 and it's like, that's rarely going to work. Yeah. Like, because like if they, you know, if they could handle that concept right now, like they, you know, like they're just not there right now. So like having something completely unrelated to just like make you laugh and take you out of it for even a second can be so helpful. So that's a fucking tip. I think something I've found too is when I'm not in it, like when I'm, when I'm okay,
Starting point is 00:27:42 when I feel totally fine, it's so much easier for me to tell the people around me like, hey, next time I'm not feeling good. can this be the thing that you do for me? And it's such an important thing to do. Like especially because, you know, like, it's so nice to be able to say, like, if I'm ever spiraling, just try to make me laugh. Yeah. Like, in some way if you can.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Because, like, no one wouldn't guess that. Like, no one would guess that. Right. And that would be crazy if I didn't know, like, if I didn't know that and I, or if I knew that and didn't say it and then expected other people to know that and was like, why are you trying to make me feel better? Like, just know yourself. Yeah. And it takes a while to realize, like, what are the things that work for you?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Oh, my God. Yeah. Especially with therapy and medication and all that kind of stuff, all that takes a while to just, like, get into the zone of like, oh, this is the thing that works for me. This is what doesn't. I mean, medication has so many side effects. Oh, my God. That are sometimes just like just as bad as like the thing you're going through. Yeah. Like this antibiotic. It is, it's so very, very common to be like, oh, yeah, I was on that pill. Yeah, no, it was like really great, except I didn't think of humans as sexy. And so I just had to like close my eyes and never have an orgasm again. Yeah. Like it's very, very normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And that sucks because you think like, what's wrong with me? Because people don't talk about the side of it. Yeah, no. I mean, like, and it's just crazy. Like there's certain people who, if they are choosing their route of getting medicated for something that they find the right thing early on. That's freaking awesome. And then there's other people who like are trying, like having to try a whole
Starting point is 00:29:18 a whole bunch of different stuff and like taking months of like is this the new medication starting, the old medication wearing off or like just like I just messed up. It's like that's so stressful and hard. Yeah. And I don't even have any point for that. But I just, if that's what you're going through, you're fucking awesome and holy shit. Yeah. I think it's it's definitely something to, uh, to like look into and at the same time.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like if you're like, no, I found this other thing, which isn't that. And it helps me. And it's like great. I mean, do whatever helps you. Whatever helps you as long as it isn't like killing people or animals. Listen, if you're like the thing that helps me with my depression is like eating the skin off my neighbors, I'm going to go with like maybe not. Yeah, I don't think, I think you should find a different tactic. You should go to therapy.
Starting point is 00:30:03 You should definitely go to therapy, especially if you are continuously eating the skin off of your neighbors. Yeah. Now, here's my question. Yeah. If Squidward went to therapy, how would that change the SpongeBob franchise? I think it would create a lot less conflict. There'd be a lot less episodes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:23 So maybe you shouldn't go. So that's one benefit to staying depressed is that if you are an animated sea creature, you can create a lot more storylines in a fictional show. You can be a story generator. Yeah, absolutely. So that's really good. So, I mean, there's upsides to everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:40 It's so funny. When I'm, like, really, like, like, anxious or, like, not having it great, I will always say, but yeah, but the good news is. And then say something absolutely terrible. Or just really like not be able to think of something and take like a seven minute pause and then go like, I'm going to be alive today.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Like in just something that just doesn't count as the good news. Yeah, there is no good news. It's just, it is. But like my body instinctively says the good news is. Yeah. Which says something else, I guess. Yeah. No, I think it's a good thing to be able to be like,
Starting point is 00:31:15 oh, I'm just riding the wave. Like, you've got to ride that young wave. You're just like having a moment. Have that mic moment. It will end. And it's okay to just be like, okay, I'm in this right now. Yeah. And when it ends, it's going to be lovely.
Starting point is 00:31:27 There's like the social media element of life that adds like a whole extra level of mental health issues. Oh, yeah. You know that Olivia Rodriguez song. Yeah. Jealousy, jealousy. Yeah. Where she talks about like seeing all the girls. girls with the perfect white teeth on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Do you feel like... Yeah, like their teeth are really white. Do you feel like their teeth are really white? I feel like their teeth are white and their teeth are so white. Do you feel like people now are more anxious and depressed because of Instagram? Yes. 100%. Because, okay, unless you're using Instagram for like strictly dog videos.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah. Or like videos of food. Like if you are following. people on Instagram and they're not like your cousin who just had a baby. You know, like if it's like people who are like, this is a cute picture of me, which is most people. Yeah. Most people.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Like I do that. It's very normal. It's like the normal thing too. It's like here's me being fun. And like, yeah, I just feel like there's no way it doesn't negatively impact your whole everything. It's actually kind of part of the reason I like TikTok. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Because you'll get into niches where it's showing you things that are so specific but make you feel good. Yeah. Because it's your niche. It's the thing that you like looking at. Yeah. So it's like it'll be like my dad is on pilot TikTok. So it's all videos of people being like, I drive a plane.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I drive a plane. And my dad's like, hell yeah, you drive a plane. That's so good. And so it's like he doesn't have to look at like some other man's thin calves. Right. And be like, what if my calves were more sculpted like that man's calves? Yeah. And instead he can just be like pilots are fun.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Pilots are fun. Like that's great. And I think that there's like, I don't know, TikTok to me has such a like, I mean, look, I'm not on what they call straight TikTok, which is just like the classic like Charlie and Dixie dancing and stuff. It's the like dancing videos and like people being like this is my attractive significant other and I'm attractive and we both drink smoothies. And it's like that's awesome. But I'm just not on that TikTok. No, I'm not on that one either.
Starting point is 00:33:38 So like anytime I'm on TikTok, it's people like trying to be funny. That sounds bad. people being funny. Yeah. Like I'm on like a lot of just like people doing funny shit or doing like all weird stuff. Yeah. And that always makes me laugh. And any and anytime I'm like like going through a TikTok wormhole, I find myself so much more just like I'm having a fun time than if I'm going through an Instagram wormhole.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah. Because Instagram is just like you. It's like I had to put it in a separate folder on my phone because my hand would open it. Yeah. Without me like an addiction. Like an addiction. Yeah. It's literally an addiction.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Like my hand would open. in it and then I'd be like, everyone is skinny. And it's like, okay, well, what do you, you have the choice to put it down. And you can kind of, you can guide your thumb to replace that need of going to Instagram with going to another app. Like I used to always go to Instagram and now I always go to a balloon popping game on my phone. I can't stop playing it. And it's a balloon popping game and I'm an adult. But at the same time, I, when it's embarrassing because people will walk by me and they'll look at me looking at my phone and they think I'm checking a work email maybe, but I'm just trying to pop a balloon. See, I compulsively check work emails. Yeah. And then panic when
Starting point is 00:34:52 there aren't enough and then panic when there are any. So that's also bad, but it's better than Instagram. You should get the balloon game. I should. You should get the balloon game. You should get the balloon game. You know what I really open mostly? I open my notes app and I have lists of things I have to do that day and I cross them off and delete them and write more and cross them off and compulsively do. that so that I don't go on Instagram. So that's fun. Yeah, I compulsively schedule, which I love. I love a good schedule.
Starting point is 00:35:17 There's nothing wrong with that. I'm a big schedule. I like a sick schedule. I like my dick scheduled. Yeah. Oh, who doesn't love their dick scheduled? I mean, I love it. Here's a question for you.
Starting point is 00:35:26 What kind of things are you on? Like, what kind of niches are you on TikTok? Right now, the biggest thing I keep getting videos of are computers or robots trying to right stand-up comedy. That's really good. And it's my favorite thing ever because it's like, kind of like, it's not English sentences. And my sense of humor is so broken that it makes me laugh so much harder than any stand-up routine. Because it is purposefully not making sense, which is the funniest thing. It's nonsensical. The whole thing is like airplane food is, how about politics? Like none of it is sentences. And it makes me laugh so much and I love it very much.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Yeah. So it's interesting. Because if I look like just looking at this like at my tic-tok versus instagram like feed like the things that they're like here is what you should watch for you my ticot feed is so often like like people showing texts that are like funny text conversations like whether it's like the girl who does oh my god beckamore who does like loyalty tests like i get her a lot like i'll get people who are like like doing just like like funny things messing with people or just like people just filming weird people do weird shit. It's just way more like random and casual.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And then on Instagram, it's literally just like the only things that I'm shown are like, would you like to stop your eating disorder or would you like to lose so much weight? And I'm like, wow, that's so not helpful Instagram. Oh my God. It's really not helpful. Like every real is like what I eat in a day, whether it's what I eat in a day to lose weight. or what I eat in a day to recover from an eating disorder? And I'm like, can you stop with this?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Because I just don't want it. What mixed messages as well? So many mixed messages. And I don't want, I don't want them right now. No, that's too much. I just want to go to the park. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I get a lot of Instagram posts suggested for me that are crocheting patterns. Well, that's better. I don't crochet. No, you don't. I don't know how to. There we go. So that's it. That's so insane.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah. It's interesting how different apps think of you as a different type of person. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, all my Twitter recommended things to me are like, the earth is on fire. All my Twitter stuff is like, I fucking like hate anyone who's anti-mask.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah. All my, yes, all of my tweets recommended to me are like, the world is dying. How about yours? And then all of my Instagram recommended to me are either like, have you ever seen a grandma sew a scarf? Or it'll be like, look, it's very. of a pig friends with a dog.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I mean, I will always take that. I mean, love that. I'll always take that. And then on TikTok, it's like, have you ever been gay with your dad? It's just like videos that are like, what is this? Yeah, that's like a great explanation of like what my TikTok
Starting point is 00:38:27 is too. Yeah, the TikTok will be like 10 places that I would go with my dad. Fuck, my uncle. With my uncle, if we were both coming out of the closet to our friends. It's like, wait, what? And then it's all like the dungeon and it's like nothing else.
Starting point is 00:38:45 No, nothing makes sense. TikTok is nonsense. No, and that's the thing is like I feel like sometimes nonsense is like the best medicine. I agree. Like people are like laughter is the best medicine. No. But where do you find laughter only in nonsense? That's why we speak gibberish so much.
Starting point is 00:39:01 No, I mean like our boss once asked us like, hey, you guys should write a thing about friends because you guys are friends. Yeah. We were like, I don't think anyone would relate to anything we'd say. Because when we're alone, we are just going like, chungle my hearse, chisel my horse, chisel my horse, my chisdall. Like, it's just absurd. And it's all day. And it's only us, and it's all day that.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And it's like no one would relate to that. No. So no, we can't write that sketch. Yeah. So the time that he was like, come on, guys, you guys, you guys are friends. What do friends do? Do you friends do? Anytime we're doing something that is the most unrelatable thing.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Like just alien thing. We'll turn to each other and go, what do friends do? What do you friends do? Because I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But probably none of that. No, none of that.
Starting point is 00:39:53 No one just speaks in gibberish and sings songs with the incorrect lyrics with gibberish. I mean, maybe people do. If you do, hell yeah. If you do, let us know. Let us know exactly what your gibberish words are. I would love to know what's like the weirdest thing people do with their friends. Yeah, absolutely. If you could tweet at us.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. At Siden Olivia. Yeah. Tell us the weirdest thing you do with your friend regularly where if somebody saw it, they'd go, oh, that's alien. Yeah. That's like an alien activity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Because I would like to see that. I would love to see that. Would love to see that. So yeah, absolutely send that our way. Yeah. And while you're at it, you can ask us for advice questions. Yeah. You can tell us what topics you'd like us to hear a cover on the show.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Tell us anything you friggin' want. in the whole wide world. We have Instagram, TikTok, Twitter. Everything we are is at Sedan, Olivia. On everything. It is everything we are. It is everything we are. And yeah, so today we talked a lot about mental health and birds. And birds. And if you are having issues with mental health, call us and beep us. You should absolutely reach out to a licensed professional. Yes, actually, you should reach out to a licensed professional because they're going to be a lot better at. we are. We'll probably just speak gibberish and try to help. Or talk to a friend or family member.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Or all of the above. Or all the above. I love the all of the above option. Yeah. So kind of like a sweet little... I'm loving that. Like a, like a warm ending. Like a cute big warm ending because we had such an icy, cold beginning. We had an icy, cold, creepy beginning and we're having like a wholesome sweet warm ending. I love that. That's what we are here. We're like a sour patch kid.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Icey on the outside and hot on the inside. See, that's an icy hot. Oh. We're like an icy hot. We're like an icy hot. We're like an icy hot. We know things. We've eaten icy hots before and we are exactly like them.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Icey hot. Is that Shaq's thing? Yeah. Remember when Shaq used to advertise shit and he'd be like, this make my back feel good for me? Yeah. I don't think he said it that way. He might have said this makes my back feel good for me.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I think I'm falling apart. Thank you guys so much for watching our mental health episode Or listening Or listening, yeah I'm Olivia I'm Sid And this is Sid and Olivia talk shit And we will talk to you guys next time
Starting point is 00:42:19 All right, we'll see you later

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