Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - Sofia Franklyn Talks Sh*t

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

Sofia Franklyn (Call Her Daddy; Sofia with an F) opens up about the Call Her Daddy drama, friendship breakups, and stripping for Rudy Giuliani. Get ready for Mormon sex, scandalous tweets, and predictions of Syd and Olivia's very own friendship breakup. Listen here or watch on Youtube! https://www.youtube.com/SydOliviaTube Follow the podcast on social media! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sydandolivia TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sydandoliviatalkshit Twitter: https://twitter.com/sydandolivia ADD US ON: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/piercedmedia/ TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@piercedmedia TWITTER: https://twitter.com/piercedmedia Out of Line is a ⁠⁠pierced media production Executive Producer: Shweta Katyal Produced by Ashna Rodjan About Pierced: Pierced is the first creator-led podcast network that’s making podcasts for the girlies. We’re tired of every man on the face of the planet having a podcast and decided it’s time for a new era of podcasting - it’s time to give the girls the mic 🎤 Pierced podcasts features all your fav content creators in a new light. We collaborate with creators to produce podcasts that speak to the complex and unique experiences of the girls and young women of today – the podcasts we wish existed when we were younger. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hope you've been doing awesome. We have a very fun situation today. We are not where we usually are. We're not where we usually are in the greater Los Angeles area. We're in a different state. We are in the greater New York area. We are today joined by a crazy guest. She's fucking crazy.

She's meaning like a crazy get. How did we get her? Like a crazy get. What a get for us. A guest guest. Yeah. If you are familiar with podcasts, you definitely know of her. Unless you've only ever heard of the Joe Rogan experience.

In which case, why are you here? Why would you ever be watching our podcast? Go away. This wouldn't be for you at all. So this guest had a very famous podcast called Call Her Daddy. And then a very famous friendship breakup. And then a very famous ever. everything. A very famous kind of life. A famous life. And a lot of sexual experiences she talks about.

A lot of very sexy. This is a warning. This is going to be a sexy episode. This episode might be too sexy for you, Dad. So, Dad, Dad, stop watching. This is not a Dad alert. This is, stop watching, Dad. This is not a dad episode. This is like a talking about sex episode. And our guest, Sophia Franklin, is really the only person to do that. She's the only person I would ever trust to talk about sex. Right. Because I've never had it. You've never had it.

I've never had it. She seems to have had it. Many a time, she says. So we're going to bring her on and we're so excited to have her. So please welcome. Sophia Franklin. Hi, everyone. If you are a person who has ever listened to podcasts or knows the general idea of what

podcast is, you've heard of Sophia Franklin. Exactly. So don't go there. So don't go there. Don't pretend you don't. You know exactly who this is. We're just assuming that the people watching are mean. Don't fucking go there. Sophia, how are you?

I'm doing really well. I love that you guys. So, Sydney and Olivia licked me up. I asked if I should take a second dose of mucinex. They said absolutely. And I'm also taking antibiotics. And I think they were fully aware and they still told me to have another drink, another mimosa. So I'm going to say some shit that I've not. never said before. I'm ready. Here we go. Yeah, welcome to the episode where we kill Sophia Franklin. Too many meds on her. We're absolutely by accident going to kill you. Sophia, you've been in the podcast game for a second. Yes. So did you always think you wanted to be like an entertainer or somebody who like entertains people? Absolutely not. Zero percent. I didn't

think I was that cool growing up at all. I was always more of a creative for sure. writing. That was kind of my strong suit, but I was like, what the fuck are you going to do with an English degree? You're an idiot. So I forced myself to... Even makes you feel better. I majored in playwriting. So, yeah. Okay, wow. I majored in screenwriting, which

movies don't exist anymore. You know what that shows? That shows how confident you guys were and your abilities growing up and just confident all around. Stupid. Stupid. It could show how stupid and misled we were. You could take it either way. I was like, there's no money in this shit.

I'm gonna... See, that's actually... Okay, okay. I was like, I'm going to major in economics. I'm going to work in finance. And so I started working at Morgan Stanley. And I didn't think I would work in entertainment. I will say, and I'm going to get a little witchy on everyone. I don't give a fuck. A little wicken type shit. The secret. Everyone knows the secret, correct? Which stuff? The secret. Like the movie, the book. It's like ask, believe, receive. Like you can manage. manifest things into your life. Yes. It's like the girl Alexis Nyers who stole all those stuff from celebrities, the bling ring. She was raised on the secret. Okay. So the secret can help you Steers. The secret can help you rob a house. And that's all I need to know about it for me to absolutely read that book. Right. I love to rob. I mean, she's like, she's a fucking idol, by the way, Alexis Nyers. This see, I know. I'm referring to the secret as if everyone knows what the

fuck that is. It's just manifesting shit into your life. Every single day, I would listen to a podcast. while I was working at Morgan Stanley my nine to five and I would think to myself I want to have a podcast and be in New York and I kind of would visualize it even though I didn't really think my life would go into entertainment I would because probably just because I was hating my life so much doing the finance shit yeah where were you living at this point Utah oh the perfect place to live the most oppressive place to live no Utah can be great but it's great skiing that's That's really the only thing it's good for. Every time I get on a show, I talk shit about Los Angeles and Utah.

Those are two valid places to talk shit about. But the other thing, too, is your brand is very sexual, no? Like you talk about, like, sex and, like, graphic details. Very. That's your thing. Very. So what do you do in Utah, surrounded by Mormon people who I'm guessing? Don't love that?

They absolutely love it. Probably secretly under the covers at night. They probably do. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. So I have a very complicated religious upbringing, but my mom was raised LDS, which is Mormon, short for Latter-day Saints. So was she super excited about the fact that I was talking about sex? Was I terrified of my family finding out?

Absolutely. But for some reason, I've just been very open when it comes to sex and talking about it. I don't. I've never felt shame surrounding it at all. you know, maybe like deep in the subconscious sometimes after one night stand and I'm like wiping come off me. Maybe. You're like, shit. What have I done? You pray as you do. Right, right, right. Secret prayer. Hail Mary five times. I also went to private Catholic school. So that's fucking confusing. My dad escaped Catholic school. Okay. So I was raised by a man who escaped Catholic school.

Okay. Okay. So right. So it's a little bit complicated, but how did I feel? I actually, I didn't start the podcast until I had moved to New York. So I wasn't surrounded by those people. However, when I would go home for the holidays, I don't think my extended family has ever looked to me the same. Right. You get to New York. Yes, I get to New York and I just transfer my job. So I'm still at Morgan Stanley, still in finance, but I live in New York now. And I was doing that for, I think, like two years. And then I started the podcast. Okay, so Sophia, obviously we have to talk about call her daddy. Yes, 100%.

So you get to New York and how do you meet Alex? So I had met, how the fuck did I meet that girl? Not Alex. That actually sounded really funny. The girl who introduced us. I truly don't fucking remember. I wish I would have fucking answered. That was hilarious.

is. I met this girl who, oh, that's what it was. I was doing like an Uber pool situation. I had no money. Right. And I met this girl who worked in finance in the Uber pool. We would be on Wall Street. Would be like, do you want to get fucked up during lunch? Okay, cool, me too. Absolutely valid. Mm-hmm. And then she said, I know a girl who is looking for a roommate. And I was living in a studio apartment with a mattress on the floor. The most depressing, probably I've never been that depressed in my entire life. A bad living situation can really fuck you up mentally. Yes. And I didn't know anyone in New York. I had my aunt who I would see, but she's also like fucking crazy, but I love her. But um, shout out. Shout out to your aunt. But, uh, she put us in contact.

And the day that we met, we signed a lease on a place. That is speedy. Actually, that actually, I think gives a lot of context. Yes. Yes. So you meet and then how many months later? Are you like, we should do a podcast together? It was like, it was an arranged marriage. It was, it is. Now that I'm thinking about it, yeah. That sounds like an arranged marriage. Right.

It is. It was really quick. I would say like six months into living with each other. And you're, you know, making this podcast where part of the appeal obviously to people is, oh my God, they're best friends. Right. And like we love the friendship. And so then that's jeopardized by the fact that you're making money off of that.

Right. And also that you're in an arranged marriage. Exactly. Like you can be friends with the person that you get set up in an arranged marriage with. Absolutely, you can fall in love with them. But signing at least the day you, that's hard. That leads a lot of stressful things into the mix. Yeah, I've actually never thought about that.

And I'm always telling people like, never move in with a boyfriend right away. Like always give it like a year, year or two. And here I am moving in the same day with someone I didn't even know. Well, friendships and relationships are wildly similar in a lot of ways. Yes. One of them has sexy. sex and the other one doesn't. And maybe the other one does. It could. It could. It's not. You never. Here and there. It's not. Here and there. Friends and some sexy sex for me.

So you start living with this girl and when are you guys like, oh, we have like a rapport and we should make a podcast? Ooh. So I think there was there was one thing I can think back on. We were in Austin, Texas for South by Southwest. We were in a bar. I was talking about like getting deped or just something outrageous. outrageously sexual. And we just, we had chemistry from the get-go. And I don't know why we just did. I mean, you guys obviously have that. Chemistry is an inexplicable thing.

Right, right. It's very strange. And all of a sudden we just have this group of dudes like surrounding us like, wait, what? Which I'm over here thinking like, I am such a good storyteller. And I am just so good with words when really these guys are like jacking off because I'm probably talking about sex. But that's kind of the moment where I think it kind of went off in her brain more so because she wanted to be an entertainment.

Got it. That she was like, wait, we like have something here. Interesting. So then you guys immediately start doing a podcast? So we don't. We wanted to do a YouTube channel. Nice. And we, I think we filmed like one YouTube video.

I would die to, it's probably online and I would rip my skin off if I had to watch that shit. Perfect. We tried to do it. We did a YouTube video and then we were approached by this random podcast company that was run by a bunch of trust fund kids that just had a bunch of money, had no idea what they were doing, had no idea about podcasting, but they were like, hey, you girls are hot. You talk about sex. You guys are funny. Do you want to try doing this? And we were both like, hell yeah, what's there to lose? And that's when we started. So you start doing that. And is that? Does that end up being barstool? That ends up being barstool. Wow. That company was Barstool? No, no, no. That company.

Barstool picked it up after like three episodes. Yes, but just us. That company, I think, completely dissipated. Classic. Trust fun kids with money. They still need supervision. I never trust anyone with money or anyone young or anyone young with money. We want anyone old.

Olivia and I have started referring to those people as professional nephews. Yeah. Like, we'll get these opportunities where it's like they can't necessarily handle them. Their uncles in charge of something. They're a professional nephew. They're a professional son. Right. I mean, I'm sure looking back, they're like, fuck, I wish my uncle would have gone into this

and we wouldn't have let those girls go. But I mean, whatever, that's how it happened. And it was crazy. God damn their uncle. Right? He fucked that up to them. He fucked up. But, yeah.

Go ahead. Oh, no, I was just going to say, so caller daddy became like a huge hit. Overnight. Yeah. Like, it was really, it's so fucking annoying because like, when I'm trying to give advice on people to start a podcast, start something and entertainment. It's like you got to stay in there and it takes a while for me. Yeah, I, you know, it didn't. It didn't. It didn't. It was really like an overnight thing. However, back to the secret, back to manifesting. I genuinely do think that how to like everything to do with

it. Yeah, because then it like shit lines up in your mind and you're like, oh, I know what I want so I can go like that. Yes. When like the opportunity presents itself. I feel like so much, so much shit of like, is luck. Yeah. Like I feel like so many things that we've done where we've worked really hard and done it the correct way have like not panned out and then we'll do some random side job for someone. Right. And there was a reason.

And then there's a person from that who's like, hey, you want to do that. And it's like the times that things actually pop off are the most like random fucking feels. It's so weird. Yeah. But it popped off in many a way. Yes. Because it was this huge success.

It was like known as like the podcast. especially like the female podcast. Oh yeah. Like this was the thing. The female podcast. Yeah. And then there's this huge breakup. Yep.

Which was even bigger news. That was people who didn't even like listen to the podcast for like, oh, the break. And that's like fucking crazy. That's so funny. Yeah. People would be like, I had no idea what that show was until like the fucking. And it's like, I remember we hadn't even explored the world of podcasts yet because we're late to everything.

And I remember hearing about. about the caller daddy breakup and both of us going, oh no, what happened? Even though this was a subject that was so foreign to us. Right. We were in a big long, long line to get COVID tested. And I remember. Trapped in a car for two hours.

And we're like, oh shit, people are sad and mad at each other. Oh no. Well, we need to know what happened. No, I would love to know. And you guys can be completely honest with me. Did you read all of the news and were you like, oh, Sophia's a fucking idiot? No.

Team bar stool, team. team Alex. No, I always am curious about that. I remember us being like, wow, it sucks that everyone hates each other. I remember that being the biggest takeaway. I remember listening to all of them. We listened to your side, his side, her side. Right. And we were like, oh my God, all of these people are just, first of all, we were shocked to hear people saying exactly how they felt. Yeah. Because that is something you just don't see that often. No, it's really not. Yeah. So seeing somebody go like, I'm going to throw them under the bus and I don't fucking care. Yeah. Was shocking. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah. But like, so what happens to get to that point? The breaking point. Yeah. You know, I think it's such a fucking, like, intricate, complicated thing. And, like, I literally could go on for hours and hours. Yeah. I think what it really boiled down to was I think she was really fame hungry.

And she had a reputation for not keeping friendships. I actually saw, if anyone's familiar with the show, Milf Hunter, I saw their best friends from high school. I saw her kind of just like stomp all over him and they were best friends and that should have been like a red flag to me. I think there was like maybe some jealousy that started happening there.

Somewhere along the way, I didn't feel it. I really genuinely felt like this girl is my sister no matter what we were going to like figure shit out. I think somewhere along the way she, did not feel that way. Yeah. That's just fucking hard. Yeah. Okay. So here's here's like a question.

Friendship breakups versus romantic breakups, which is worse? Ooh, that's such a good question. I've only had one friendship breakup and it's that one. And that's a big one. So I don't even know if I can like even answer that. I would say the friendship one, but I haven't really had those. I've had a couple. I've had a couple. couple of, couple of friendship breakups, more romantic breakups. But the thing about friendship breakups, I don't know, like when you break up with a boyfriend or when a boyfriend breaks up with you, you're like, oh, well, I'm young, you know, maybe it wasn't going to last forever. This is what happens with relationships. Yeah. But when it's a friendship, it's just catches you so much more

off guard because, wait, I didn't expect this to end. Exactly. Because like, you don't expect friendship. You could expect friendships to like kind of fade away sometimes, but not like dramatically end in like a way that's like traumatic for everyone. And it's it fucks you up. Yeah. It fucks you up. Yeah. And on top of that with yours specifically, you have the whole world judging you. Oh yeah. And for that. Millions of people. So you and Alex are publicly having this divorce. Yes. And call her daddy is now up in the air like who's it going to be. And it was this thing that made you guys a bunch of money, I assume, and definitely famous. Well, it made bars full a lot of money. I would believe that. I believe that. Yeah. And so then, like, what do you do when people are

hating on you and being like, I'm team Alex? Like, I think that this is right and you're wrong. Yeah. Do you just have to like get metal skin? Yes. I feel like that's the hardest situation to be in. Yeah. Unless you develop metal skin. I mean, I had to develop the thickest skin possible. Like now it's like I can read 20 horrifying things about me and it's like nothing. I will say though, I think that it was such a bizarre thing because I had my platform taken away for me. Like I couldn't access the podcast anymore. I couldn't tell my listener. Like I couldn't speak to them really. I had my Instagram, but that was teeny tiny compared to the podcast and then barstool, you know? And I think the most bizarre thing is to all of a sudden go from zero contact with your friend to, you know, to,

to they're putting all of your shit on blast. And I was just like, this girl knows so much about my life and about me. Like, what is she going to say today? What is she going to say tomorrow? No, that's going to be like haunting. Yeah. That's like terrifying. So I would wake up every single day just with crippling anxiety, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, that's absolutely horrifying. So you feel like the narrative was pushed in a certain way that wasn't necessarily I'm, there's no question. And they had to do it. I see why they did it is because how are they going to keep, you know, the listenership and stuff, they had to make me look bad or else the listeners were going to be like, well, what the fuck, you know? Exactly.

It's like so crazy that nowadays especially like so much of, we were just saying this actually right before we started rolling, like so much of your work and your real personal life, you know, they should be separate. But so much of it nowadays for so many people to so blend it. And I know I sound like, I don't know, dumb or. naive. Like, I would just never think to do that to her. So it was just like this really, it's kind of like also when you find out like your boyfriend has like been cheating on you and I was like a second family or some shit. And you're like, no way is this the guy I've been

dating. It like, rips the rug of reality out from underneath you. And you're like, where am I? But you also did get to tell your side of the story, right? On your podcast. It was, it was much. It was significantly later. It was it, it was significant to the people that were following. Right. It wasn't really, I mean, I had to, within two months, like, start my own media company, find a new place to publish the podcast. What is it called? Like, you know, all of that shit while I'm going through it. Yeah. But I was dead silent at first for a while. And you've had zero contact with Alex. Zero. Wow. Damn. Zero. What would you do if she reached out to you? Depends on the text. Well, let's just put it that way. That's a very valid.

answer. Yeah. And I think I've said this before I'd be like I'd probably send her a Venmo request. I'm gonna need what she got half 30 million after taxes, whatever I'm need. I'm glad you're taking taxes out. You're fact and you're being fair. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny. Oh my God. Post tax. Yeah. But I need a cut of. I'll give her that. Oh my God. Does it, does it trigger you to be on a podcast with two girls who claim to be best friends? Yeah, claim to be. You know what? We haven't known each other for 12 years. You know what?

It wasn't triggering, but this is the first time I've been. Well, I was on horrible decisions, but I've been there. I've been on there twice already. This is like the only other time. I've been with two other girls. And I was like, I like that thought crossed my mind. Like, are these girls going to like, are they in it for the long haul? Are they going to last?

Because it's hard. Do you think we're going to break up? I don't. Okay. You guys have been best friends since high school. Yes. Yes. But, but.

But she's not to be like, but it's, we're breaking up. No, no, here's the thing. And, you know, we're very realistic people. Yeah, I feel nothing ever because I'm so, I'm so numb. No. I'm so numb. And we, that's not true. I feel everything.

We love each other very much. And I think in the healthiest relationships, you can talk about the relationship falling apart. Absolutely. I think that we, you know, we're in a marriage. We are. We are in a marriage. Marriages can end. Marriages do end.

Not all of them. Some of them stay forever. So, Sophia Franklin, how do you think our first? friendship's going to end. I think pitch with what you know about us. This is not me trying to suck your guys' dick right now. I think that you guys are going to be in it for the long haul because you guys have the history. Like you guys have been friends since high school and it's not like work was like the thing that really, you know, there's history there. I mean, that's a very sweet answer. Well, yeah. If you had to pitch. If you had to pitch us breaking up.

I guess, you know, the good news is we did it for you. Yeah. We wrote down what our friendship breakups will be. And we don't know what the other person would say. You want to go first? Oh, I'm so excited. So this is just like our thought because, you know, obviously we would love to have a Caller Daddy moment where we break up and become very famous.

I would love to be with you forever. But if we do break up, you want to go out in style. We should at least pitch what it's going to be beforehand so that we're not aware of what's going to happen. And then, Sophia, you can be our Dave Portnoy. Oh, yeah. Yes. You can just get on and talk shit about both of them. this fucking podcast and release an episode just like slam and voting both of you for everything.

We'll tell you all of our details. Separately. Separately. Separately. And I'll try to up the auntie and I'll be like, no, Sydney said this, Olivia, like Olivia, you got to give me more shit. I think we're exactly on the right page. I do too. Okay. Okay. So my girly little prediction is that Olivia and I will be doing something that we normally would do. And I, the god of mischief, appear to Olivia who is in captivity. And I want Olivia to join me and leave Sikar. And Sophia, have you ever been to Sikar? That sounds like a place in the Bible.

And I also sound like an idiot. But no, I have not. Have you ever seen like a Yelp review of Sikar? Is that from like Thor? Okay, so it's the fourth planet from the star, Teo. So I would not hear about that. And then I want Olivia and I, obviously, to live and not return to Asgard. Because if we return to Asgard, of course, we'll die at the hands of Hela, you know,

the goddess of death. Oh yeah. Well, I mean, who the fuck else's hands would you die? Yeah. So then I later betray Olivia. Oh, fuck. Oh my God. So does that make me Alex to you? Um, no, no, no, actually, no, she's the Alex then. Because I, I wanted to go. Right. You wanted to go so that you wouldn't be killed by what's her name? By, Hela the goddess of death. Right. Who is Dave? Who is me? Okay. Perfect. Everyone's like, what the fuck are they talking about? I then later betray Olivia just as they are about to, we are about to escape Saccar. Oh, okay. Now you're Alex.

So, yeah, I mean, classic. This is classic me. However, Olivia sees it coming and electrocutes me. Oh, no. Wow. I hate being put in that position. I am then stranded on Sikar. That's against my nature.

I would rather just die. I am then stranded on Sikar while Olivia leaves for Asgard. And my last words to Olivia will be, I assure you, brother, the sun will shine on us again. So I electric you get here, but you're fine. Yeah. Okay, that's more like me. Oh, you're fine.

You survive. I'm a god, Sophia. Well, you're loki, the god of chaos. I'm who we're getting at, right? Okay, but she, but Olivia gets away fine. Like, she's good to go. I bring my giant hammer and I run away. No, there's a whole cinematic universe.

There are tons of movies of it. Okay. Yes, there are. Pretty close. Yeah. It's pretty close to what I wrote to. Okay, Olivia, how do you think we're going to break up? This is how I think we're going to break up.

Okay. Twas the night before Christmas. and all through the shed. Perfect. Olivia and Sid were getting ready to wed. Olivia was the groom and Sid was the groom, but Olivia didn't know her day would end in doom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right for right at the altar, before the big kiss, the ground turned to fire and the sky turned to piss. Nice. Sid grew a hundred feet tall and her head spun around, and she said, you've been in a coma, none of this is real. he woke up in the hospital with fright and the nurses said yeah you've been in a coma all right now run into the street and run into it fast hacha cha cha cha rat to tat task well that's beautiful holy so that's my pitch of how we're gonna break up right and i actually don't think it could be anything but those two scenarios yeah what do you think those two scenarios uh didn't enter my brain in any way shape or form i know it's bizarre i feel like the first second anyone would see us they would guess at least one of those two scenarios. It's also so weird because I feel like it's so relatable to you.

I mean like you wanted to go back to Asgard. Your previous partner was like no. The sky turned to piss. The sky turned to that part for sure. You woke up from a coma. Everyone had nurses told you to run into the street. Yes. Well, it kind of did feel like that.

I kind of actually did when it was all happening. But no, I think I think you guys are going to be good. Did you hear? I appreciate that. The moment of pause. The pause and the shaky. If you guys were going to be. If this were a movie,

in that pause, you would see all of your, all of the montage of you with your former best friend running in a field and skipping. And you're like, I think you guys would be good. You're talking to a cynic though. I know. So take that into account. I really appreciate that.

I do too. And the thing too is, the best thing is that if we ever break up, we can do a reunion. episode where we talk through our problems and we can call it call her saddie. Yeah, perfect. Because that's not what our podcast is called. No, but we'll call it, call her sad because we are sad. We'll both be sad.

Absolutely perfect. I love that. Have you guys, do you guys do therapy or anything like that? I love therapy. I love you. You guys do it together. We should do therapy together. Oh my God.

Yeah, I wish that was something we would have implemented like earlier on. That's actually so smart. Do you guys argue? We have. I mean, like, we've argued in the past. We do, we will have moments where we go like, we disagree on things, but we're never like arguing. No, I think, I think any argument we've ever had, like, we got out when we were younger. Yeah, okay.

If we were ever like, oh, fuck, I have hormones. Like, it was like, okay, cool, we're 19 and 18 and we both have hormones. I think we've had moments where we, because we grew up together, we've had moments where we were figuring out, like, who we were and what we are as, like, a team. Yeah. And I think that you have times where we're. you go, oh, I thought this thing was okay, but actually it's not. Or I thought this thing wasn't okay, but actually it's fine. Yeah.

And that's honestly just so much better than never having those conversations. But yeah, no, now like, like the only thing we'll ever get into is one of us will be like, I think this is the joke. And the other person will be like, are you sure? And then the person will be like, yeah. And it's like, we're doing both of that. It's fine. Okay, Sophia.

So your podcast talks a lot about sex. Oh, yeah. You're like, are you like a sex expert? Are you a sex expert? I would not call myself a sex expert. I would say I'm willing to talk about sex in a way that most of the population would not. Like I will be like, this is how you suck a dick. And I will tell you from start to finish.

This is how you write dick. Like get up on your feet. You're rubbing your clip. You're saying, like I'll be very graphic, very detailed. Am I a sex expert? No, but I'm very real. And I've, you know, I've had a few sexual encounters. so I feel like I can speak on it.

Do you feel like when you have a new sexual encounter with somebody, they're expecting something because you are known as this like a one thousand percent. And I think I underperform. Really? Because of that. That's like what Pete Davidson said. He said that everyone, because when Ariana Grande was like he has a 10 inch dick,

like he said every girl for the rest of my life is going to be disappointed. Right. Literally don't. Right. Like these guys are like, oh, she's ought to suck my dick like so crazy. see, I don't think I ever suck dick on a first encounter. I'm fucking loving that for you. If it's our first sexual encounter, you can eat me out and we can have sex,

but I'm not, I'm not doing the blow job and then like you come and it's like bye. No, no, no. I think that's completely valid. I think the only real reason to have to give a blow job in a first encounter is foreplay. And I still even won't even do it then. I think that's completely admirable. I do too.

And I think because of my history and the street cred, that I have, like, maybe I can kind of hold back for, for the first few encounters, you know? Interesting. Yeah. So interesting. Yeah. Me saying, I suck as sex, by the way. Yeah.

And I have a sex podcast. That's the thing Sid and I always talk about is like every, every piece of media portrays sex as this, like, crazy fucking thing. And sometimes I feel hesitant to talk about sex because my biggest fear is telling somebody, this is the way I do sex. And if you don't do it this way, then you're wrong. Right. Like that is my biggest fear.

I would never, because I've had people shame me for things. Where I'm like, oh, really? Like, you don't like this thing or like this thing is something you like and you don't or like whatever. Vanilla shaming is weird. Like, but vanilla shaming, kink shaming any kind of. But they're all the same. Yeah.

But like kinkshaming used to be so in like 10, 15 years ago. Uh-huh. And then it's like, oh, you don't like piss play. Well, fuck you. Yeah. That's so interesting. And it's so interesting of like, do you feel like there is like a line you have to navigate having a sex podcast where you're like if a young girl is listening to this,

does she think this is how you have to have sex? And if you do not have sex this way, you are wrong. So I make it very clear, at least I try to, to say, this doesn't work for everybody. Like I always have that disclaimer. I mean, I remember on Call Her Daddy, we, what blew up was the Gluck, Gluck, 9,000, which is the blowjob and how to give like this nasty, just like, slobbery, like you're dying for the dick type of blowjob. And I remember I tried that on one of my boyfriends.

And he like grabbed my hair and was like, can you stop? Like, I don't know what, I don't know what porno you think you're in. Like, this is not it. And he liked to get his dick sucked completely different. I was also very embarrassed, by the way. That was like, whatever. Oh, that's horrifying. I was horrified.

Any sort of rejection during sex? Yeah. There's nothing to come back from. It haunts you for the rest of your life. Oh, yeah. every 20 seconds. And I've never heard of getting rejected for being like over the top when it comes to men. Too porny of a blow job.

Yeah. And it's, I think, pretty common. I've heard so many stories from my friends who are girls who have hooked up with men. And I've had experiences for sure where people are like, well, this isn't the thing I like, because this isn't the thing I have experienced or something. We're being upset that you're enthusiastic, which is like, shouldn't I be enthusiastic? asked it? No. Don't you want me to run from me? Like, you know, but like I had a friend who was literally like her, a guy she was hooking up with was like, stop making noises. Don't talk. It's like. And it's like, are you okay? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And it's just like everybody's got a different fucking thing.

Everyone's going to be into something different. I think. So when I do talk about sex, like sometimes it's generalized, but I always make sure to throw in the. The disclaimer. There is going to be someone who's not into who's actually into the opposite. Yeah, absolutely. Who barely wants you fucking putting your mouth on his dick. Right. So then also, you know, speaking about like the idea of, you know, a podcast influencing younger generations. Like, do you feel like call her daddy was in certain ways not great for women and young girls?

Looking back, yes. I think absolutely. I think I was also really young. Like I'm trying to think of when that launched. I was like 25, 26. Yeah, it's crazy how. Like we were just talking last night about how like when you're 22, you're one age. Oh yeah. When you're 25, you are a completely different person. And I assume when you're 28, you're completely different. I'm 29. I am a different human than when I was 25, 26.

Looking back, I definitely think we said things that were not cool and not okay. I also, but the thing is, is also even now on my podcast, there's going to be. episodes I listen back to where I'm like, that wasn't cool. That shouldn't have been said. But the thing is, as long as you can recognize it. Exactly. Or as long as you can look back and go, no, it wasn't my best. Because we all have that. I've said plenty of things that I am ashamed of. Oh, they'll be on the internet forever probably. Yes. And that's just part of it. I think we need to shift the culture from like you make one mistake to cancel forever to like you make one mistake. You have to learn from it. Okay. Yes. Because that's, that's actually human. Like making a mistake, learning from it and going like, got

and understanding that everything fits in in this big weird context where like it's butterfly effect and it's also important to remember that everybody has a different idea of what a mistake is. Yeah, exactly. Like some people might say this was harmful to me, whereas another person's like, actually, that was really helpful to me. Exactly. It's, you know, unless you're saying something that's like, ooh, don't, don't say that. Well, I also think it's like we do live in a culture where like if someone says something

that is accidentally taken the wrong way, they are put in the same category as like fucking Harvey Weinstein. And it's like, okay, we got to know those are different categories. Because then it diminishes like the really fucking bad shit people do it. Because people do because people do really bad shit. And that doesn't mean if you do something small or medium that's accidentally bad or that you regret later. That doesn't mean you shouldn't, you know, take accountability for it. Yeah. But it doesn't mean you should be punished for the rest of your life in the same way that Bill Cosby is. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I was, look, I was canceled for no reason. It wasn't because I said something racist or homophobic or anything. I was canceled because I had a

business disagreement. Yeah. Right. And so when I started this new, my new show, Sophia than F, I was like, I remember in the beginning being so fucking scared about anything that came out of my mouth. Like, could I be canceled for that? Could that piss someone off? Could that? And I, my content just wasn't, it wasn't me. And it wasn't like true to me. So I had to let that go a little bit and be like, I'm going to fuck up. I'm going to say some shit I shouldn't say. There are obviously certain things that are like above a fuck up and will not come out of my mouth. But like I'm going to fuck up at some point. Right. No, you'll make mistakes. And it's like, no, the internet, the internet kind of reminds me of my ex-boyfriend. And that you never know what mistake you're going to make. But if you make it, it will never be forgiven. Oh, yes. For the rest of your life. That's abusive. That's not ideal. But they're both, but like it's the exact same fucking thing. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a, great analogy. It's true. Totally crazy. And also, if you're dating someone who's like that, don't do that. Fair. Just tip to the reader. Don't do that. Fair.

Sophia, we'd love to play a game with you. Okay. This is a game we've never played before. No, yeah. It's an amazing game. It's so fun. I just see you guys with your notebooks. Yeah, we've got our little notebooks. Okay. Okay. It's really easy. Okay. Okay. The concept of the game is called name that picture. We're going to show you a picture and you're going to explain to us what is happening in the picture. Okay. If you are listening to this podcast and not watching it, you're going to understand what it is because she's going to explain what the picture is.

Exactly. Okay. You're dumb piece of shit. You're goddamn. Thank you for watching. I'm so sorry. Thank you for watching. Now, Sophia, let's start off with an easy one.

You're going to understand what this is. I'm going to show it to the camera first. Okay. Okay. All right. So I need to be really descriptive here. Or just, no, just a general. What is this picture?

Okay. This picture is of a white, male and he's eating a salad that has absolutely no dressing he is on a first date he has his phone on the table which is very fucking rude to do on a date he has a smile like he wants to do some shit to the woman across the table from him amazing that's an amazing we would have taken that description we would have also taken businessman eating a salad okay Olivia okay here's okay here's okay here's do less okay do less sophia this um this is our our current one. Okay, here we go. What's this? Okay, this is a family, grandma, granddaughter,

and they're playing chess. Yep. That is, that is checkers. We also would have accepted checkers. That is not chess. Yeah, that was good. That was amazing. Okay, Sophia, this is a really good one. This is the photo. You guys keep hitting the curve ball. And then you could just explain this picture. That'd be awesome. Just a simple game of name that picture. Just explain what that is. So that is a picture of me on a stripper pole stripping for a politician named Rudy Giuliani. Okay. You can see it on my Instagram. Sophia the F.

Franklin with a Y. Some self-promotion over here. That's basically it. That's basically it. So this is a tweet where you say, thank you at Rudy Giuliani, exclamation mark, exclamation mark. What a J. What a J. And then it's you.

You look great. Thank you. On a striper poll and the back of Rudy Giuliani. Uh-huh. And we know who Rudy Giuliani is. he's awful. Mm-hmm. Horifying.

Horrifying. So what can you explain? So I wouldn't strip for the actual Rudy Giuliani. That would be against my political views. Yay. So I would like to just say that. Thank you. He is a very corrupt politician.

Yay. The strip club owner had an uncanny resemblance to Rudy Giuliani. Horrific. And I thought it could be, oh, to strip for him. It was like terrified. Oh, he's just a nightmare. It's just a nightmare. It's strip for someone who,

looks like Rudy Giuliani. And then, oh, and then acts like, I would assume Rudy would act, like, you know, take more clothes off type of thing. And I just thought it'd be funny to kind of just throw Rudy a tag, you know? I think, and did everyone on the internet love it and get that it was a joke immediately? They did not. The comments, there was a very heated debate. I lost thousands of followers. Oh my fucking God. It was a joke. Maybe not to Rudy. I don't know if he's, seen it, but it was a joke to me. I thought it was funny. It is amazing that you trolled the entire world.

You just fucked with everyone. I will say when we thought it was real Rudy Giuliani, we were like, oh shit. Oh, no. Why did she do that? And we were so prepared to read you a list of things that Rudy Giuliani has done. Okay. Sophia, you need to know. And confront me.

And then, or just to be like, just be like, don't do this. Please don't strip for Rudy. And then we took like three seconds to do our research. We were like, oh, fucking thank God. And it was the most. respect. I was like, I cannot believe she set the internet on fire. Yeah. And was like, yeah, I don't just be like, fuck you. Here we go. It's crazy. The amount of people that were like, that was actually Rudy Giuliani's feel like, why are you doing that? But I guess that you guys

fell for it. Like, yeah. It was so, such a stupid thing to fall for. I wouldn't strip for him. Everyone fell for it. And to, to honor that and to almost write our wrong of falling for it first without doing our research. To make an ode to it. Yeah. We've made some fake tweets. that would also be shocking and horrifying if people saw them and didn't know it was a joke. And we just want to share to you, this is our kind of our ode to you. Yeah. Our ode to that tweet specifically.

Would you like to show? Yeah, okay, so here's mine. I'm freaking out. Okay, so we've got this. Okay. This is mine. It says, thank you at actual Joseph Stalin and at the real Zodiac Killer.

So excited we got to share our bodies this crazy morning. keep doing what you do. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. And so yeah, and yes, I do have a men's body in this in case you're wondering. And you have one of my clothes as well. Oh yeah, if you're listening like some asshole who drives,

instead of watching, it is an image of badly photoshopped image of myself on a man's body in a male threesome with Joseph Stalin's head photoshopped on one of the other bodies and the sketch of the Zodiac Killer photoshopped on the third body. And the Photoshop is horrendous. Yeah, and the Photoshop is horrible and it's a tweet. We have a team that does that and it's Olivia. Apologies to the social media manager.

That wasn't me. It's me when I'm drunk. Okay, that's absolutely beautiful. I made a tweet as well. My tweet is, thank you at the real Kim Jong-un and at He Who Shall Not Be Named, honored to have had sexual relations with Lord Voldemort and given birth to Kim Jong-un yesterday, what a day. What a day.

Show her the, see Kim Jong-un just coming out of the... Oh my God, he's coming out of your pussy. He's coming out of my vagina. That's how birth happens, I've been told. I think so. Wow. Yeah. Full set of hair. Full set of hair.

He was born with a full head hair just like me. I was born with a full set of back hair. I hate that for you. It's true and it fell off, I think. Is that real? I think. No, that is real. My mom reminds me constantly.

Yeah, we don't know. We don't know if it's falling off. We heard two horrifying stories about Sydney's birth today. God, I have so many. Those are beautiful, you guys. Thank you so much. You're in two. We thought, you know, might as well.

I don't know. We just do the same thing. Fuck with everyone. I'm so flattered. See if anyone thinks it's real. Yeah. They're pretty good Photoshop jobs. Yeah.

They're beautiful and perfect. I have no comment on that. It's kind of crazy what the media will pick up on because the New York Post wouldn't write about my Rudy Giuliani post, but like they wanted to write about my TikTok that went viral. Right. Why? Your TikTok that went viral was.

It's the merch I'm wearing. I have options. And I'm not even trying to plug it right now. I know what it sounds like. You don't need to plug anything on our podcast because we are, no one knows who we are. So you plugging on our podcast would be like a lost cause. It would be like, oh, my dad knows.

Telling someone on the street who doesn't speak the same language as you about your business. Save my breath. This is just in case. No, you can. No, no. This is just in case my dad. Danny Heller wants to buy the merch. Yes. Danny, this is for you.

Danny, there was a TikTok. It did go viral. And I said, this is how to let a guy know you have options. You have the server bartender send you a shot and be like, oh, some guy sent you the shot in front of your date. And the New York Post picked it up. The Daily Mail picked it up. And I'm like, is this what reporting is these days?

This is what we're reporting on. I'm pretty sure there's a war going on. Yeah. There's definitely a war in a lot of public. tragedies that I'm not even going to get into because this is supposed to be a comedy podcast. Yeah. That and out of all the things I've done stripping for Rudy. Yeah.

Really wild. And have you ever done that? Have you ever had an order to a shot to yourself? I have not done it personally. I do think it will work. That's why there should be articles about it. Sometimes you teach things that you have not done yourself, but I really do think it's something that would work.

Well, Sophia, those who can't do teach. That's a really good point. That's a really good point. That was actually the quote I was scrambling for. Here's a fun fact. All three of us grew up around a large Mormon population. Oh. We did.

How? We grew up in Agora Hills, which is a lot of Mormon people, a lot of Persian people, a lot of Jewish people. It's kind of a lovely melting pot. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Do you know about soaking? Absolutely.

Do you want to explain to our audience? Yes. So there is soaking, which is basically when you stick your penis in a vagina, but there will be no motion. You won't hum. You will just, as it's called, soak it, marinate it, park it. It's not sex if it's not moving. And therefore, God can't see it. Yes.

And isn't there an addition to soaking where someone else can jump on the bed to move you? I've heard jump on the bed. I've also heard you can have your friend go under the bed, put their feet up on the mattress and move it up and down for you so you can get the friction. And here's still not sex though. That's like here's what I have to say. It's the hardest thing I've ever imagined. You're bringing more people into the equation.

That is way kinkier than just normal sex. I feel like that's more sinful. I feel like there's more sin to that. And I don't even know if I believe in sin. I don't think I do. I mean the poophole loophole? Jesus. That's a new term for me.

I didn't even know that term. Well, I'm Jewish and we don't care. Yeah. Yes, Jewish people don't. Zero. And that's crazy because it's like I feel like there's, that's all way kinkier shit than just plastic penetration. The poo pool loophole.

Wow. Not sex. It's going in the butt. Can't get pregnant that way. That's true. That's true. Unless you're created wrong. And your uterus is in your colon.

Not wrong. Just differently. Differently. Just different. Have you seen the Mormon Bachelor? I don't think anyone's seen the Mormon Bachelor. No. Is that a thing?

It's a YouTube channel. Olivia and I found it. That we found. And it's literally kids from NYU. It's BYU. Why did I say NYU? I was out to say what Mormon people are at NYU. It's from BYU making a Bachelor series where like the first date is a talent show kind of a thing.

And it's all and it's just it's worth a serious binge. That's incredible. What is it called? The Mormon Bachelor. It's not called that we call it that. Okay. So it's called the BYU. I think it's called like the BYU Bachelor, but I could be wrong.

I feel like I'm going to put $100 on the fact that it's the Mormon Bachelor. And that's, I've, I don't know. I've lived it. Let's look it up. I mean, I've lived it. Yeah. I don't even need to watch the show. I've lived it.

I've plenty of my ex-boyfriends went to BYU or Mormon. Oh, did you have sex with a Mormon person? Yes. What was that like? It was great. He actually lost his virginity when he was 31. He was substantially older than me. No.

Okay. To someone else. Okay. So he left the Mormon church and then decided. And then decided. And it took till he was 31. You were how old? He was 17 years older than me.

That's the oldest I've ever gone. And he was Mormon. Yes. But he had the mind of a 20 year old. Right. That makes sense. No question. Okay, well, that happens.

It's called provo's most eligible. You know what? Provo. Today I lose $100. It is called Provo's most eligible. It's worth a watch. I would highly recommend it. But yeah, we all grew up around a bunch of Mormon people.

We did improv with a lot of Mormon people. I still have so many Mormon friends. We have a father figure who is Mormon. You wouldn't expect us to be friends with so many Mormon people. especially because we're so fucked up and you would expect them to be like not them and i think they probably still are but i i love the they just talk about you guys behind your back i don't even know i all i know is that i have so many lovely mormon friends and i have no idea how they put up with me that's so interesting i i do too i still have them i think the mormon culture is very specific in utah yeah i don't know if it was like that in agorra hills

probably more specific in utah yeah i think it was very neat like, you know, I think maybe people, the Mormon people where you guys grew up are maybe a little bit more open. I would not as clicky, you know. Yeah. There was, there were like, like, you know, there were Mormons who were like, oh, I'm in the LGBTQIA club. Yeah. You know, that's, that's probably not as much of the thing. Not as much in Utah.

Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Well, this is fantastic. This has been incredible. You guys are fucking hilarious. So your podcast is called Sophia with an F.

Yes. Where can you listen to it? Anywhere you listen to podcasts. Anywhere. And it's Sophia the F. It's Franklin with a Y. My TikTok is Sophia with an F, Franklin with the Y, and the number is it zero or one. Oh my God, you don't remember?

I don't know. Those are two pretty easy to remember numbers. Put zero or one and that's where you'll find me. Find out. Find out yourself if it's zero or one. You guys let me know, please. Yeah, we'll put it down below. We'll send you a secret letter after this.

Yeah. And it says either a zero or one. And if anyone else opens it, they'll think it's a code for the end of the world shit. Thank you for hanging out with us. We're a lot. And so I apologize. No. I appreciate you.

You shut up. You shut up. I was not. The phone's going on. I was not expecting to have this much fucking fun. You guys are hilarious. Thank you so much for having me on. I need to have you guys on my show.

We need to figure that out. I would love that. We think you're awesome. Yeah. I was telling them earlier when I, heard, you know, two TikTok girls, I thought it was two 16-year-olds doing the renegade. And then when you guys

sat down, I was so pleasant. You were like, they're much older, maybe 40 or 50. Maybe that's too old. I did my research and I'm like, these rules are fucking smart and really fucking funny. Well, Sophia, we're guilty of the exact same. We did our research. We're like, I don't know. We're like, I don't know. It might be Rudy Giuliani.

And then five minutes later, we're like, oh, good, good, good. Yeah. It's such a relief. We're both guilty of the exact hour. So we'll go out into the street, do the renegade in the middle of the, we're like, the middle of the stream. And you can go and track him down. Let him know that you're available for dancing.

Yes. Moral of the story, don't believe everything you read. Holy shit, shocker. Don't believe anything. Don't believe anything. Don't believe anything. Anything. Don't believe anything.

Run away. Thank you guys for watching if you would like to subscribe to us. That'd be amazing. If you don't, that's also valid. You do whatever you want. It's your choice and you have consent. To do consent. You have to consent to do what.

I'm Olivia. I'm saying. And we're at Sidin Olivia on. Everything. This is the podcast that in Olivia Talk Shit. This is our wonderful guest, Sophia Franklin. Thank you guys so much for watching. We will see you next Tuesday. Bye.

It's not so fucking fun. Slipping one in there. Lovely.