Syd & Olivia Talk Sh*t - StarKid to StarAdult

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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I really want the prince to be Jojo Siwa. Yes. Okay. Okay. This is good. Okay. Are we saying the prince is Jojo Siwa or or Sebastian? Oh.

Imagine Jojo Siwa doing under the sea. Okay. Let's recast Jojo Siwa. Wait, why not both? Okay. Wait, that's such a good point. Why not both? Okay.

Yes, I'm so sorry. Perhaps not both. Wait, sorry. Honestly. They're only going to be on stage together sometimes. Jojo Siwa singing kiss the girl to herself. Yes. As she should.

And Jojo Siwa is Scully. Yeah. The bird, too. Joja, triple roll. Little Marade is Ariel is carrot top. Jojo Cia is everyone else. Including Ursula? Including Ursula?

Honestly, she would be a good Ursula too. Awesome and Jetsam. She would be a great. Oh my God. Imagine her doing Betty Davis eyes in full Ursula again. Okay. I'm like literally I have to leave on so excited. I'm hard. Welcome to the Big Bad podcast for you.

Well, it's an Olivia Talk. The Big Bad podcast at you. I am the Sidwan. I'm the Silwad. And today we have a very special other. Whoa, that's very exciting. This is like pretty, pretty crazy. Pretty special.

I feel like, and I could be totally wrong, but I feel like this person has people following them in the street. Oh, my gosh. I feel like this person has people calling their home in the middle of the night. Are you either of those people? No, but in high school, I would have been. Thank you. Thank you for being honest about that.

Yeah, yeah. In high school, I for sure would have been. So that was you. No, that was. So years ago? dropped calls for years. That was, that was you. Okay, okay, got it.

I feel better. We have a Star Kid legend. Joey Richter, everybody. Hi, hi. Hi. Hi, everyone. I'm not sure, I'm great. I'm not sure where to look I'm realizing.

Oh, red, red's on. Red's live. You can even look at the floor. Okay, I'll look at the floor. I'll look like in the mic and I'll go across. I like that feels good. Hello, thank you so much for having me. Thank you for coming.

This is so nice. It's so nice to like warm up in the morning with nice people talking about your past and your president and your future. Just a little podcast to get you going in the morning. Exactly. It's like a little coffee and a little, you know, they do say that talking is the best type of warm up. Oh, that's great. It's the best type of vocal warm up. Wow. It's just if you're feeling tired, it's like just talk. Just have a nice, casual conversation. Yeah.

That's supposed to be good. Now, listen, you're, I think, known as like, you're like a big theater kid in the theater kid community. I am. And we're still kind of, I think that's still kind of a shock to us in some ways. That's fair. In a sense that it's like Star Kid and what we've done with Star Kid and Tin Canberra's and all these things over the years is still like, it still feels niche. But it also feels like everyone in those worlds knows what it is. So it's this weird, weird line that we're towing where like sometimes there are some industry people that'll be like,

this is just a little thing. It's like, I don't think if you talk to everyone who does this and grew up with this, that it would be as niche as you think it is. So which is kind of fun. Yeah, it's the amazing thing about the internet and theater. And theater. Like there are these like huge communities of people that are like really strongly backing these things because they're like, I believe in that and I love that. And that's such a wonderful thing. And.

Oh, sorry. Oh, no, no, I'm just going to say in theater in general, like, you know, it's got such a strong audience, even though it's not a super broad audience in the big population of the world. Yes. People who, there are people who like, I don't know anything about musicals. I don't know anything about theater, but the people who do are fucking obsessed with it. Yes. And the fact that theater, not to toot our own horn, but it does feel like online theater, theater that is like very accessible for people, especially in the boom of YouTube and all those things. was kind of started with us in some ways.

And again, I don't want to like that person. No, wait. We're going to confirm that and be those people. Okay, cool. So we went to. You heard it here first, folks. We went to Agora High School. Yes.

Oh. AJ Hall. And so when we were in high school, but we don't know. He was way. Before our time. Okay. So I.

Is what year you guys? We, I graduated high school in 2013. 2013. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

I just suddenly realized how old I am. That's great. Okay, cool. But AJ, I think, graduated like a couple of years before we, like, got into school. And there was this, like, legendary presence around him. Sure. Because of a very modern musical. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, would you be able to talk a little bit about, like, the – Because you were there from the start, right? The musical that we watched all the time when we were children. Well, it's so funny because that was, yes, the first, like, Star Kids show. under the banner of Star Kid, under the YouTube channel of Star Kid. But they did Nick and Matt Lang, who are the kind of main creative writing forces behind Star Kid. They had written other shows prior. So the year before we did Star Kid, or we did a very Potter musical, which was my sophomore year of college,

my freshman year at the end of the year, they had done a Lord of the Rings play where they, like, completely wrote a Lord of the Rings play that was just like, this is what we want to do. with Lord of the Rings. The year before that, which was before I got there, they had done a Hobbit show because there is a Hobbit play. It's like a, it's an actual play you could do. We did it in middle school. And they did that and realized like, we're going to rewrite a bunch of this

because we think our version of this would be more fun. So they did a Hobbit show and then the Lord of the Rings was kind of a follow-up show. So I remember seeing the Lord of the Rings show. And I was in a university of production of a show called as, not as you like it. That's Shakespeare. You never can tell. One of those shows where the name of the show is said multiple times in the show where some butler goes like, well,

you never can tell, man. You never can tell. And everyone goes, oh, my sons. Yeah, 100%. Exactly. So I was in that show and it was cool because it's like a U-Prad show and you're like, oh, cool, I got all the costumes and stuff. And I remember like the Lord of the Rings show was a basement art show, which was also what

a very Potter musical was. And those were, there was like a late-night performance so that all the people who were in the U-Prods could go see it. And I remember sitting and watching it and being like, why the hell am I in this other show? This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. There's like they made a Ghalem puppet. They have all this fucking stupid, silly jokes.

And I was like, oh, my God, I wish I was in this. And then the following year, we did something called, they do something every year called 24-hour theater. And that's like where everyone gets together and, like, writes a show all night and then does the show rehearses the show the next day and then the next night everyone performs the show. So

AJ was paired with Matt Lang to write a show and they wrote a show called Me and My Dick. Yes. Which is a which was like a short show about a guy who has an anthropomorphic dick and he walks around and hangs out with his dick

and they are in love with this girl and then his dick runs away from him. He runs away. He runs away from him. Is that the thing where his dick runs away? He's a song called God find his dick. Pretty good song. Look it up. It charted on iTunes, okay? But, God, I sound horrible on that album.

I was so sick. But the, so that was a 24-hour theater show. And that was like, and Darren Chris played my dick, and I was the guy named Stephen at the time. And that was like, in some

ways, an unofficial audition for like, oh, you guys could play friends. And then it was later on in that year, it was like, we're going to do this Harry Potter show for a thing. Do you guys want to play Harry and Ron? It was like, yeah, sounds good. And we did this show.

It was like so thrown together famously like we were, you know, because when you're doing theater in college, it's like you're doing, you're going to classes all day, you're somehow finding time to do your schoolwork. You're then rehearsing for other shows at night. And then you're probably drinking and, and smoking and watching movies and ordering pizza till like three. And then you're doing it all again.

But this show, you know, it was also like a very long show. This was like a three and a half hour long show. Really thrown together. I remember my dad was there the week before for like a fun parents thing my house was doing and he like saw a rehearsal and he's like, you guys are doing this next week? You guys are doing this next week? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did it? Had the most fun ever. tons of people came and saw it. We were adding shows. We were like, holy shit, can you believe this? And then we just kind of thought it was done. And we were like, that's great. What a fun thing we got to do.

They made DVDs for a few of us. And then they were like, this is too expensive to keep making these for everyone. So we'll just put it on YouTube so people can show their family. And yeah. And then did it blow up immediately on YouTube or what happened? It was like within within a couple weeks, I think. or like maybe it was even days because almost immediately

it blew up enough that they got a cease and desist from Warner Brothers That's amazing And we're like this is not This is not align with the views Of the The Harry Potter And they were so they were like

Okay we'll take it to because they put it up on YouTube That just was called Harry Potter the musical And they went uh-uh You can't do that No And so they took it down They edited out some jokes that are like that were like, okay, we'll take out this joke, we'll take out this joke.

They put it back up in parts. They called it a very Potter musical because the Langs were huge fans of a very Brady sequel to Brady Bunch movies. And they're like, that's a funny way to title this. And then it went up again almost immediately, like as soon as they edited it. And then we just kind of got like so engrossed in that world. We started going to like conventions. We went up to San Francisco like a month later to go to some Harry Potter convention.

That's so funny. Because I think the books had all come out. Yeah. But the movies were still coming out. Yeah. So it was like, ooh. Yeah. Oh, okay.

There's still like stuff going on. Uh-huh. So yeah, right place, right time. Yeah. Right show. It was. And it was like, it was so fun and it was so like, for me, I felt like, oh, my God, wait, you can just be silly. Yeah.

Like you can just be silly. So you were in high school. You were in high school. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. It was like hitting you right at the time where you're like, the target.

It was the sweet spot. Great. Great, great, great. Yeah. Like I had two friends and I, we wrote a musical in high school because of a very Potter musical. We have a lot of friends who did that. Do you know Gabe Greensman? Improv guy? Friend of ours, we've worked with him a lot before. He's like an improv UCB guy. But he's similarly like good friend of ours, and he's like, guys, I wrote like a Pokemon musical because you guys, because of this. And it was so, so it's so, like it did kind of, I think, kick off people feeling like we could do something like this with friends. Yeah.

Because that's the most important thing is that it's got to be with friends. And that's, I think, the secret sauce of it all of like, we are very comfortable with each other. Yeah. And we all have a shared sense of humor, shared humor, shared history, shared drama, you know, all that stuff. So it's like, it's, yeah. It's, we had an improv code.

in high school who used to say like the thing people like watching more than anything else is friends having fun yes people love watching friends having fun and if it is also a great musical and so funny and everyone's talented that's just a fucking plus and the music's good and catchy and you're like oh wow okay so yeah all the characters were played in these very specific funny ways there was like every single person was just like an a plus plus plus plus yeah it is so funny it's like so much of that is in the writing, definitely, but also it's just like we didn't have so much time to rehearse. So it was kind of just like what people brought to the table for things. Because like we were rehearsing so much in between classes and in between things that I would just bring food

and be eating when we were rehearsing. And then we're like, this is kind of funny. Yeah. This is kind of funny that you're eating all the time. And then we're like, you know, and we could justify this because Ron is poor and so Ron is poor and so when he goes to Hogwarts he eats as much as he can. So we were like and like it is like a Ron thing like if any

character in Harry Potter is going to be eating on stage exactly it's like rusty in the Ocean's 11 movie where you're like this is cool you know it's which is kind of also what I stole or I'm like it's cool when Brad Pitt is eating all the time. All he does is I should eat all the time. He loves to chew that guy. Yeah so we so that was like a

thing where we're like, that's funny. That's funny. And it's like, uh, yeah, I mean, when you talk to Lauren eventually about all of her choices. Oh my God. Her incredible iconic choices. That was, I mean, yeah. So she famously played Malfoy. Yeah. And that was just, I mean, it's something else, you know, she disappears. On another level. She completely disappears. Yeah. Like the weirdest, it's funny. It's so good. It's incredible. It's the most. And that's kind of like that joke, I think the two jokes that kind of kicked off them. wanting to do this in general were Draco being in love with Hermione.

And they were like, that's funny. And I think the idea of like, I'm, I'm in danger of falling in love with Hermione Granger. And you're like, huh, funny. That's a rhyme. That could be a song. Yeah. That and the Voldemort and Quarrel being like roommates.

That was so good too. Being like a buddy comedy of these two guys living on each other's heads. I mean, it's so genius. It's so good. And then so like, you know, you've been doing it for so. long now. It's like how do you transition from like the Star Kid to just like Star Adult? Star Adult. How do you transition to a star adult? How do we become star adults? Well, I mean, that's kind of the, the... Would you guys ever rebrand as Star Adult?

I don't think so. I don't think so. I think Star Kid is kind of like its own thing. So we've been doing this for 16 years. Yeah. Or 16 year anniversary this year, which is so wild. Kind of amazing. I'll like, we'll meet fans and stuff and people be like, oh, I'm like, who are like, under, anyone who's under 15, I'm like, it is so crazy. Yeah. We've been doing this longer than you've been alive. Yeah. When did you enjoy this?

When did you enjoy this? Who gave this to you? When did you enjoy this? Did you see this in utero? Who gave this to you at what age? And that's been kind of the fun part about it, too, is like it, it, the company itself has had phases where it's like we, we, there's like the chunk of shows that we all did, like, in Michigan.

when we were all at school. And then the company moved to Chicago at one point. And so then there was like the shows that were in Chicago. And then they left Chicago and came to L.A. And then there's like, there's shows now we have done in L.A. You know what hasn't changed at all? What? How messed up it is to be awake.

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So when the first show in L.A. a show called The Guy Who Didn't like musicals which is a horror comedy that kind of kicked off a new string of shows in this Hatchetfield universe which is kind of like a twin peaksy

that's the best way I could describe it or like a pretty solid twin peaks a lot of a lot of the young folks say gravity falls okay I know twin peaks more so I don't feel as young as I did earlier then if you're out there and you're like a little bit younger and you're like what the hell is twin pigs you know

what gravity falls is and it's very similar but the show itself is like probably at the time the when we first did it the most like oh this is like actually this is us playing adults right this is like there is a genre bent here but it's a genre that is like uh much more for adults and the the plot lines are are something that is not um i think the show we had done prior firebringer which is where the i don't want to do the work today meme comes from you know it's like that's a caveman thing. And you're like, okay. And that meme blew up and you're like, no one questioned why we all look like

Flintstone's characters. No. No. Okay. I was just like, that sounds about right. That sounds right. So the Hatchetfield was like the first thing that felt like, okay, the horror focused, I think allowed Nick and Matt to really hone in on stuff they, like, you know, Ramey, Sam Ramey inspiration

stuff, stuff that they loved growing up and make things like a little scary and weird and darker. Yeah. So those shows kind of kicked off the last like almost six or seven years aside from a show we did last year, which was

like a fairy tale Cinderella thing. But then this year, it'll be over by the time you're listening to this. But you'll probably still be able to rent a digital ticket ever or something. But we're remounting the guy who didn't like musicals right now, seven years later. So it's fun because

we're revisiting a show for the first time. We have a segment that we have a segment that we're We're very excited to do with you because you're a musicals boy. So basically, you know, there's been... Don't make me sing. Don't make me sing. Don't make me sing. Basically, there has been like, you know, a trend of movie musicals lately.

Sure has. But so many of them have been good. And that's actually kind of annoying. Yeah, that's a problem. And we're kind of trying to figure out how we can like end that. So, um, to make them bad again? Because like we love watching cats, right? Yes.

Which was a nightmare. It was like a crack nightmare. It felt like doing hard drugs and clicking on the pop-up ads, right? So basically, but wicked, I felt like was a vibe. I loved Wicked. It was good. Yeah.

It was good. Wicked was good. So this is a segment called Nightmare Castlist Music. Uh-oh. Cut music. Okay, so this is a segment where we will find the worst possible cast for different musicals. Oh my God. So we're going to cast a musical.

We're going to just pitch the worst people to play each role. Okay. And there are no wrong answer. There are no wrong answers, only wrong actors. Good. Okay, so basically, let's first go ahead and recast Wicked because obviously it was too good. It was too good. So for Wicked, who is our dream bad Elphaba?

Obviously, Cynthia Rimo is a talent unlike any other. Who would be just the worst alphabet? The worst Elphaba. It can be anyone in the whole wide world. It can be a famous person. Oh my God. It's probably Kevin Spacey. Yeah.

It's probably Kevin Spacey. It's probably Kevin Spacey. Oh, you're so right. Okay. So on our first cast list, our first cast list confirmed is Kevin Spacey as Elphaba. Wow. Because you know he'd take it so seriously and we'd all be like,

this is so bad. This is so bad. Everyone in the movie theater would be going like, should this be a life? I know we shouldn't allow. This is illegal to watch this as well. And obviously opposite Kevin Spacey, Glinda. Oh, my God.

The worst Glinda. The worst Gleanda possible. Probably Jim Parsons. Right. So in this. We're mixing it up a little bit, you know. Yeah. Don't worry.

This is not the only gender bend casting you're going to get here. Wow. That would be so good. Kevin Spacey and Jim Parsy. Straight to Tubby. Yeah. Tube with ads. With ads.

What is this feeling? Straight to. So Sheldon and new. With ads a production of Wicked where Elphabuzz, Kevin Spacey, Glinda is Jim Parsons. And obviously Fierro is. Both of their love interest has to be. Oh my God. Obviously Fierro has to be.

Oh my God. It has. I'm trying to think of like. No, that's so fine. I mean, let me tell you who I think it should be. I think Fierro has to be Shrek. Oh, that's really good point. Animated Shrek.

And I think it will be great because obviously Shrek is green. And he's going to confuse every. Exactly, because there's already a green character. Yeah, we already have Kevin Spacey and green face. It's going to make no sense. It's going to be good because you won't need to shoot with Shrek, so you'll be able to, like, just shoot the scenes and we were like, we'll just put Shrek in. The other good thing is that I've always wanted to hear dancing through life sung in like a really thick Scott Jackson. Dancing through life.

Dancing through. Don't get it. Yeah, she's going to be great. And obviously, Nessa Rose, be careful here. Be careful, everyone. Be careful here. Watch out. Watch out here.

Nessa Rose. Nessa Rose. Oh my gosh. Do we need to put an actual, oh, oh, this, okay. Nessa Rose. Oh, you know, it's going to be Jacob Allorty. Oh, my God. It's got to be Jacob Allurety, you know, because we need the hottie.

Yeah, the hottie with the body, Nessa Rose. Also because he's so tall. Yeah. So when you put him in that chair, it's like you don't need to worry. Like, he's still as bad as tall as it. Cammers can stay. Right. are. We're going for the most efficient shoot possible. Yeah, we're trying to make it bad,

not like, we're trying to make it fast. It's not, not only are we trying to get efficient, but we're trying to get offensive. Yes. Yes. This is a perfect, um, you know, combo of both of those. So just to recap Elphaba, we have Kevin Spacey. Linda, um, we have Jim Parsons, Fierro, we have Shrek animated. Nessa, um, we have Jacob Allorty, human. Madam Morrible. Okay, Madame Morrible. Obviously, somebody with a lot of, um, power somebody with a lot of you know. Okay. I say we just make it Jeff Goldblum.

Just swap it around? Swap it around. Oh, wow. Michelle Yo is the wizard? Yes, let's swap it. Okay, I like that. Jeff Goldblum can be madame warable and we'll put Michelle Yo as the wizard. Although I do think she would kind of crush as the wizard, but no, I think she'll crush as the wizard. But it is still wrong. It is wrong. And I think it's perfect, actually. Yeah, honestly. Especially like doing another

film of Wicked, but two characters are swapped. Yeah, if they put out another wicked before the second one came out. You could kind of just reuse some of the poster art and just like move them around a little bit. And they'll be like, huh. And honestly, there's a good marketing ploy to get people to just show up. Totally. Be like, have you ever wondered what it would look like if these two were just switched? Yes.

And who should be Bach? Obviously, Ethan Slater. Okay. Bach, I think we have to go, we have to go. I think this is like a crazy stunt casting. Yes. but I do think we need to go with Nancy Pelosi. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

And you know what that means? Nancy Pelosi. During the filming of Wicked, Nancy Pelosi and Jim Parsons fall in love and date off. Yes, yes. I think this is a thing because, let's be honest. They both leave her partners. She's going to be out. She's going to be retiring from politics very soon.

And what is she going to be doing? She's going to be acting. Well, she's got to be bach. She's got to be bach. She's got to be bach. Well, she's got to be bach. And that's the answer. always said that actually.

We haven't, did you see that thing where, uh, the, um, the Supreme Court justice joined Anne Juliet

for a couple of performances? You're fucking no fucking way. What was, um, who, who's the, the most recent Supreme Court justice? You're fucking.

You're fucking. She joined Ann Juliet and I was like, this is what they want to be doing. This is what they want to be joined. They want to be joined and of all the, yeah. Don't you remember? Don't you remember?

Don't you remember? Don't you remember? Oh my gosh. She would have been a great madame horrible. She would have been a great madame morrible. Talk about a great Madam Morrible. Let's bring her back. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Katanji Brown Jackson, Joy. Yeah, here we go. We've got to see the news about it. As the nurse. And you're just like, oh my God, we, why are we doing this? Yeah, this. There has to be, there has to be like something better we're doing with our time.

If the country wasn't in a nightmare state, if it wasn't in an emergency code red. If this was 20, if this was 2012, 2013, go for a world. We're in boom times. This is a madlib. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Okay. So, yeah, so it makes total sense that Nancy Pelosi is getting out. She's got all of her, you know, she's got all of her stock money.

Yes. She goes... She doesn't need... She doesn't need to make real money. She goes, I want to do musical movies. Yes. And who doesn't? Okay, let's do some stunt casting for The Little Mermaid.

Oh, so excited. So excited. Ariel, Ariel, do we have any famous gingers that we think would be an excellent aerial? Carrot top, of course. Carrot top, of course. Carrot top, would. an excellent mermaid. So we'll put carrot top there.

That's such a good point. Caratop's buffed too. Oh, Caratop is extremely. Yeah. Let's get some buffed carrot top on the, okay, yeah, Hairtoff's, honestly, if you look at that picture. Does carrots are dreads? Maybe.

We don't know, or he hasn't washed his hair in years. Are we not talking about the fact that Carat Top might have had dreads at some point? I believe it. He does eyebrows, too. Yeah, wow. Wait, what happened? You guys have seen chairman of the board? No.

It's a great. Carrot Top movie. Is it really? It's a great carrot top movie. Is there a great carrot top movie? I haven't watched it in maybe 15, 16 years, but TBD. But look at that. That's Ariel right there. That is our aerial. Can I please cast the Prince?

Of course. I really, especially opposite Carrot Top, I really want the Prince to be Jojo Siwa. Yes. Okay. Okay. This is good. Like, I think that that would be a really good. Okay, are we saying the Prince is Jojo Siwa or or Sebastian. Oh.

Imagine Jojo Siwa doing under the seat. Okay, let's have Jojo C, let's recast Jojo Cua as Sebastian. Wait, why not both? Okay. Wait, that's such a good point. Why not both? Okay. Yes, I'm so sorry.

Perhaps not both. Wait, sorry. Honestly. They're only going to be on stage together sometimes. Jojo Cia singing kiss the girl to herself. Yes. As she should. And Jojo Cia is Scully.

Yeah. The bird, too. Jojo's triple roll. Little Marade is Ariel is carrot. Jojo Siwa is everyone else. Including Ursula? Including Ursula? Honestly, she would be a good Ursula too.

Awesome and Jetsam. She would be a great. Oh my God. Imagine her doing Betty Davis eyes in full Ursula again. I'm like literally I have to leave it. I'm hard. Look at yeah. Yeah.

Oh, that's our Ursula. Oh my God. That's a Prince Eric. If I've ever seen it, Prince Eric. That's Eric and Ursula and Flounder and King Tite. That's our Flotsam. That's our Jetsam. Yeah.

Oh, my God. That is a crazy idea that I am, I don't, I think we are about five minutes in the doomsday clock away. from that happening. JoJo Sewa playing every character except for Ariel and that's carrot top. I think the Damesday clock of Jojo Sewa doing all of a Little Mermaid,

we're like one minute to men. I beg of you to make posters of this. I beg of you to make posters of any of the things we cast. Quick, quick pitch. Yeah. Remember how they were doing the live musicals on like ABC? Yes.

Why do they stop doing those? And what happened? Do we do live Little Mermaid where Carrot Top is Ariel and JoCiwaws every other character live on Amy. It's so good because she'll be so out of that. She's going to have to run around and do so many quick changes. We have to give her like, she has two separate costumes for Flotsam and Jetson?

Can ABC just like stop being cowards? ABC stop fucking around. Stop fucking around. Grow a pair and do it. And bring them back. Guys, Chicago. Oh my God. Let's cast Chicago.

We've got recently, recently Ariana Maddox of Vanderpum Rules and Long Island was. We saw, we actually saw it with Pamela Anderson. Whoa. How was it? It was crazy. She, I'm so excited to see naked gun. She kind of is a Roxy.

Yes, I'm so excited to see naked gun. I've heard she's amazing in it. She was mugging in a way that I was like, who told you to do this? Where she would like be saying lines and being like, well, I don't know. And then look to the audience and go, and she did that face and that delivery of that face after lines 35 times.

Wow. I hope she doesn't have a naked gun. You'd be like, well, I don't know. And it was so nuts. And it was pretty crazy. But we were like fourth row. It was awesome. And you need the full cast to then go, rocks.

See? Truly. Yeah. But have you ever seen Chicago on Broadway? Yes. Well, not on Broadway. It's wild because it's a very, it's a long running show. Yep.

It's so minimal. They have like no set, barely in costumes. And it does, I mean, it's great for job security for the people. it because it just keeps going. But they're all on stage the whole time, sitting in chairs. And there's moments of that show where you're like, is that person asleep? And it's like, is that person asleep over there? Because they kind of look really, they look really checked out.

And they just have to be there the whole. And they just have to be there kind of being like. They're like, I've been doing this for 10 years. I'm fine. So, so yeah, that was good. She was great. But I wish I saw her animatics. I really did.

Oh, my God. Well, then maybe because they've done so much stunt casting with Chicago. Yeah. And they've put in so many reality stars. Yeah, maybe it's all reality stars. Do you do the cast of Vanderpump rules in Chicago? Oh, my God. It would be good. Wait, Sheena could be good.

Sheena could be Velma. Sheena wants to be Velma. But like Lala? Oh, Lala. Velma. And or is Tom Sandoval Velma? Oh, God. And I don't want that to be the case, but it might be.

No, I'm having a really hard time reckoning with the fact that it is that. Yeah, I think it is. I think the worst thing that, oh, no, Tom's. Schwartz is Roxy. Oh, no. Tom. Span ball is Velma. Tom Schwartz is Velma.

And then Ariana gets to be Billy. Yes, of course. Because Ariana would be really good. She'd be a great Billy. Throw her in there. Who's Amos? Um, wait. Lisa Vanderpump.

No, no, no. Lisa Vanderpump is mama. Yes, yes. Lisa Vanderpump is mama. It's baked in. Who, it's probably who's like, I mean, trying to think who's like a. Ken, Ken would be kind of an amazing Amos.

Or. Jack's. Jacks. Jacks was the other one I was going to say. I'm like, he's kind of like, what's, because I'm like, James Kennedy's out. Yeah. He can't be on it.

It would honestly have to be Jack. It has to be Jacks. Yeah, it would have to be Jacks. And I think it would be good because it would make that character so manipulative and evil. Katie might do. Katie might do. Katie could be good. Katie could be good Velma as well.

Katie is Velma. In the correct version, Katie is Velma. But in the version we're doing, which is purposefully bad. Sandival is Velma. Wow, this is actually a really good idea. Brittany needs to be in it, though. I think Brittany could be one of the girls in Selbach. Yeah.

Which one is she? I think the one that doesn't speak English. Yeah. Just make her speak. That's offensive. Is it French? Yeah. Yeah, or she's like, Swedish.

She really wouldn't be able to say a monologue of French. Yeah. With that accent and like, Vilevichu shot a yog with a wall. Is Raquel in it or is she doing a sound bath? Maybe Raquel is doing a sound bath during the whole show on the corner of the stage. Now, this is. This is an interesting production. Yeah, I like this.

I want to see this. I'm like genuinely supportive of making this happen. And frankly, they should be too. Yeah, if they're not, they're being sold. And you know what? I think they could sell out the fucking Hollywood Bowl. You could sell out the Hollywood Bowl every night for just me. For just me and all of my busies.

Okay. How about this? Phantom of the Opera. Very exciting. Longstanding Broadway show. Well, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was amazing as the Phantom. She was amazing. Yes.

Can we recast? Let's bring her back. Let's bring her back. And should we now do people that were in it in that old version where they're all passed away? Yeah, of course, of course. The recast of people who we've lost. This fan of the opera cast, the thing that makes it bad is it's all dead people. It's all dead people.

So it's the word, it's, it's, it works, but it's, it's unfortunately all dead people. But it is all dead people. Can we look up famous dead people please? It makes sense because it's angel of music. Yeah. Let's get our angels in there. Yes. Oh, yes.

Okay, so. Okay. You got to do Princess Diana as As Christine. Let's be honest. Princess Diana is Christine. Let's go. Okay, Princess Diana is Christine.

And Ruth Bader Ginsburg playing opposite each other. Yes. I mean, and that's sexual tension there. Yeah. And Raoul. Yeah. And Raoul would be... I mean, you could do Elvis.

You could do Elvis. You could do Michael Jackson. You could do Walt Disney. Walt Disney? You could do... Gene Hackman? Oh, I mean, Billy Mays. Oh, Billy Mays.

Oh, Billy Mays would be an excellent Raoul Gell. Oh, my God. Yeah, just screaming all of the, yeah. Now, who is the chandelier? Because that's got to be a person. Oh, God, you're right. And, and, and who should it be? Who would be an excellent chandelier?

Liberace. Liberace. And I've always said it. Did he guys? Is he's, oh, no, he's dead. Okay, thank God. Oh, he's dead. But you just put him in full costume and he just flies down.

They would love that. And Liberacee knows a chandelier. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Behind the chandelabra. But behind the chandelabra, if you will.

And then Carlotta? Carlotta. Who is Carlotta? Carlotta. Is that the opera, the singer? Yeah. Who, yes. She's the one who does, she's kind of like a Miss Piggy.

Like, obviously we can't cast Miss Piggy because she's alive and well. But she is in like a real version of Phantom. It should be played by Miss Piggy. So who gives Miss Piggy energy who is dead? Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Freddie Mercury. Oh, Freddie Mercury would be a great Carlotta.

Really sing it. I almost think too good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We got Marie Antoinette too. Or Marie Antoinette. Yeah. Maybe Marie Antoinette because I've never heard her sing, so it could be cool.

It would be exciting. Actually, this is a call to action. The Ghost of Marie Antoinette, if you're out there, if you could just send in a 16 bar cut. Yeah, we just need to know what you sound like. We just need to know what you sound like so that we can figure out if you're Carlotta. Because we want you, we want you as Carlotta. You know? Excellent.

But like, can you hit those notes? And that's what's most important. And that's really important. Well, the two most important things are can you hit those notes and are you dead? And are you dead? Yeah. And that's really important. Let's do Les Miz.

Obviously, John Valjean. Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson. Of course. Obviously Mel Gibson. The man is a huge issue. Maybe this one is just all people who are severely canceled.

Severely canceled. Severely canceled cast of Lamez. Look at that. Look at that. That guy is... Now that's our Valjean. That is a Valjean who is just such a huge problem. No, that guy is 246-0.

Yeah. Okay. And Javert. Javert. And who's going to be Javert? really. I feel like it's Pam Bondi.

It's who? Pam Bondi. Yes. Or Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green. Or what's her? Yeah, wait. Who is the swoop?

Who is the who's the other? Oh, I know. Blagojevojave. Oh, no. That's an old one. Wait. No, honestly, actually

Marjorie Taylor Green and Matt Gates should be the Tenardier's. Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, and they're a double cast. Double, yeah. That's really good. Oh, yeah, y'all.

And I think instead of having two separate casts, we have them come on together holding hands and in unison, doing all of the stuff at the same time. Yes, yes. And that's only one Tenardier. So who's the other Tenardier? Okay, okay, okay. The other Tenardier should be...

I think the Olson twins. And they're not, but I think it would be excellent. Love it. Okay, okay. If the Olson twins are Madam Tenardier and Matt... Just as long as they're smoking on... And they will be. Yeah.

And Matt Gates and, um, Marjorie Taylor and the other Tenardi are, most of your tenority. We're standing at each other's shoulders, doing like a kids in a trench coat thing. And they're so tall. Now, four people playing two characters all speaking in unison. That's good. That's expensive. That's expensive.

It's okay. And it's bad. But Mary Kate and Ashley are used to splitting a salary. Yes. Yeah. So who is Javert then? Who is Javert? It'd be Army Hammer or Roseanne.

Roseanne. Roseanne would be. Roseanne Barr. Roseanne yelling at or singing stars. Zhellen at Mel Gibson. Roseanne on Ambien. Okay. Okay.

And that's an interesting choice. And I do think Army Hammer, we got to get him in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he's Cosette. I think he is Cosette. He's Cosette. He's Cosette. He's Cosette.

So unfortunately he is Cosette. Yeah. Yeah. Who's our Eponine, Shilobuff? Okay. Epony, I was going to say. Christalia? Oh, Chrystallia's eponine is crazy.

Christalia is Epony. And then who's like, and then Fonteen should be Ezra Miller Yeah Because they You know it's like there's a there's a like Yes there's an instability there

Yes there's a oh my gosh I'm falling apart That you're dying Yes yes yes yes That your child needs to be taken care of By someone else That's really really good Yeah that's important

Okay yeah that's really good And then Marius Yeah it's interesting that on this list of Google It says Taylor Swift is cancelled Why is Taylor Swift cancelled according to Google? I don't know We'll figure it out later We'll figure it out

Google AI is just so good at everything and they get everything right and that's what they're famous for. Yeah. Marius. Marius could be. That could be Shia. That could be Shia or Ellen. Or Ellen. Ellen is Mary. Ellen is kind of awesome. Yeah. Let's do that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Like I think Ellen is Marius. Yeah. And then you got you're you're putting Ellen and Army Hammer together. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And that's actually a power couple. That's a power couple. Powerfully rough, but it is power. It is power hungry. It is a power hungry couple.

And one of them has power and another one's hungry. Oh, you know what I mean. Ayah, yai. Oh, yeah, yai. Wahua. And then you got to do a candle fetish that other people didn't consent to. And then you got to do, who's the little kid? Oh.

Starts with an M. Oh, my God. You tell us, who's the little kid in Les Miz? Gavroche. Gavroche. Gavroche. Yes. And then you're going to have Kanye West as Gavro.

Yes. Oh, my God. 100%. I mean, he would be so disturbing as that child. Yeah. I think that works. This is a very, I don't, this movie is going to only get screened in like North Korea. Oh, yeah.

This movie's not making it to the United States. This is not making, straight to to be North Korea. You can only find it on the black market on VHS. And, and, and Dennis Rodman is going to be directing, writing and directing. It's going to be, it's going to. Right to Tobe. Oh, it's so good. It's pretty fucking awful.

God. And guys, unfortunately, I have already precast one of these. Okay, okay. So I'm sorry. We're not supposed to precast, but this one's precast. Obviously, the musical Gypsy. Right. About a crazy stage mom.

Yeah. Obviously Mama Rose, the mother is going to be Casey Anthony. Oh, my gosh. And obviously, her child, baby June, who does become gypsy is going to be Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Oh, my gosh. She would be quite good. Oh my God, that's so good. She would be quite good.

That actually... Oh my God, that's so good. That's the kind of stunt casting that New York City needs right now. New York City tourism, they need this. Casey Anthony and Gypsy Rose Blancher? Yes. Wait, that's like a crazy duo. Right?

Oh, no, they both did the opposite. Right. They're famous for the opposite thing. They should tour that. Actually. Oh, my God. Yeah, they should tour that. If you guys want to...

That's so good. If you guys want to see that. You got to let them know. You got to let the people know. Can we do Heather's the musical? Yeah, of course. Just because how fun. Okay, so let's cast our heathers.

Okay. Yeah, let's cast the heathers and Chandler and Veronica. Veronica, yes. Okay. Oh, Heather Chandler? I meant J.D. I was thinking of the heathers in my head and what their last names were. And then my mouth said what they were.

Okay, so let's do our heathers. Who's a great trio? Yeah. Let's get a good trio. Like a pre-existing trio? Oh, a pre-existing trio? the Alvin and the chipmunks. Yes.

Yeah, absolutely. The chipmonds. Alternatively, I was going to say the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe? Of course. Yeah, and who's the wardrobe? Is the wardrobe Heather Chandler? Heather Chandler, wow.

I was thinking of the lion. But okay. Yeah, okay, so we have, we have our heathers are obviously Alvin and the chipmunks. Yeah. Okay. Wait, or so it's only the chipmunks, right?

No Alvin is the chipmunks. Alvin is the chipmunks. Alvin is one of the chipmunks. Alvin's not the guy. No. No, that's Dave. Dave? Yeah.

Or is Dave? Why don't they call it Dave? Dave in the chipmunks? No, I think it is Dave. Is Dave Garfield's dad? It might be John is Garfield. John. Oh my God.

Why did I know that? Why do you know all this? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about Garfield. I know about that. Okay. So are we bringing Garfield in?

Yeah, I guess Garfield has to be Veronica. Yeah, Veronica. Garfield, yes, because Garfield is the animal that's like, am I a part of your thing? And it's like, no. And they're like, no. We like Mondays. Garfield singing dead girl walking. Wow.

while housing a dish of lasagna. Huge. Also, Garfield, can we get your 16 bar cut? Can we get a 16 bar cut there? Garfield, wherever you are, don't worry, put down the lasagna. It's not Monday. And the dairy is not good for the voice. And send in a 16 bar cut, honey.

Thank you. And then finally, J.D., who do you think? Who's another animated cat? Heathcliff? Heathcliff? It's another animated cat. It's another comic cat. I was thinking Heathcliff, like, from.

I think, you know, let's do Heathcliff from Wuthering Heights as Jake. Because he's brooding. Yeah, he's so brooding. He's brooding. Yeah. Oh my gosh, yeah. Oh, my God. Remember that Kate Bush song?

Heathcliff, it's me. I'm Kathy. You know, there you had a new Wuthering Heights coming out. That Emerald Fennell Road. Yes, that's going to be. Jacob All right. That's very weathering. Am I right?

Oh, no. He can't be it because he's Nessa Rose. Right. He has a conflict. Do you have a musical that you want to stunt cast with the worst people ever? Or? Or maybe. be a musical that you want to be the star of and we can

Stuntcast around you? Yeah. I would like to star in Jekyll and Hyde. Oh, of course. Oh, yeah. Of course. Because that's a good show. That is good show. But frankly, other than Jekyll and Hyde, there's not really any other characters.

Well, you play Jekyll. Is there her name Lucy? You play? Yes. There's multiple, there's multiple women in the show. There's the woman who's the woman who's like, I'm the Lady of the Night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's name, okay. And they have a great duet and.

They have a great where it's like, I forget how it goes. This just goes to show you how much I want to be in this. I'm like, I don't really know my songs. I don't really know the other people's songs. So if you're Jeklyn Hyde, who is the lady of the night and who is the woman who's like, I'm just a prodig. Well, we could do this with Muppets. Oh, no.

This is another good thing. So that's important. Piggy has to be the Lady of the Night. Yeah, because she's exactly. And then Lucy is probably. Or is Lucy the Lady of the Night? Okay, yeah. Characters.

Lucy. Lucy. Yes, she's the main attraction at the Red Rat. Oh, so am I. Same. And then Emma. Emma is the fiancé. Yeah, and that makes sense.

Emma would be the woman who's like, I'm buttoned up being proper. And that's probably Scooter. Lucy's such a sexy name. That's probably Scooter. Yeah, that's Scooter. No. Of the Muppet. Oh.

No, but if we really wanted to. Scooter Braun. Scooter Braun. Oh, that sounds horrible. That makes sense. Scooter of the Muppets. Scooter of the Muppets. Maybe as, maybe as Emma.

Yeah. also might be... Or Beaker? Beaker as Emma is good. Beaker as Emma is really good. Beaker with the mouth that goes... Because also, Emma's a soprano. Yeah.

Oh yeah, you need to get up there. Emma has to be like... Beaker can't get up there. Beaker doesn't need to send in a 16 bar cut. No, Beaker, we've got you, honey. Yeah. And then let's get a... Oh, yeah.

There's a character named Spider who's the pimp. Oh, my God. Obviously, it's got to be that spider who's in Muppet Christmas Carol. Oh, God. Oh, the Muppet Christmas Spiker. Of course. Remember the one when they're like, when he goes into Christmas future and they're all like taking Scrooge's clothes and he's like,

I'd be honest, I've never seen this, but I love one of that. You've never seen Muppet Christmas Carol? No, I'm Jewish, unfortunately, I guess. But these are like for everyone. It's a ghost story more than a Christmas story. No, no, no, I know it's for everyone.

I've just never seen any of the Christmas carols. Okay, let's dig into this a little bit. I know. I've seen Rugrats Passover. Oh, wow. Now that's good. Okay. Is that something?

Are you open to seeing Christmas carols? Of course. I've just never had the experience. Star Kid has done a Christmas Carol. Really? We've done a Christmas Carol for the last like five years. It was something that was bred out of the pandemic. And it was like one of our composers, Clark Baxter,

wrote like a concept album. That's like an 80s synth rock. Oh, that's everything. Christmas Carol. And we've done it for the last like five or six years. And it is like really good. It'll make you love Christmas all over again. Maybe that'll be, that'll take my Christmas Carol virginity.

Yeah. It should. Pop that Christmas Carol V. Yeah. I have to pop my messal toe. Or whatever the Christmas version of that is. Okay, so you have another show as well. I do.

You do? I do. You remember? You remember this? Do you know? Oh, I'm late. You host a show called The Great Debate? Yes, this is a new-ish game show that we've been doing.

So I have a group called the Tin Can Brothers, and that is comprised of Brian Rosenthal, who played Quirle in a very Potter musical. And then Corey Lubbich, who has been a designer on a lot of Star Kid shows, also went to Michigan with us. And we formed this creative trio. And the great debate is a show that we started pioneering on our Patreon like a couple years ago.

We were like, let's just argue about funny things. And so we're like, who's the worst Muppet? Which, what's the best cereal? And we just developed like full hour-long conversations about this stuff where people would bring in media and argue and we're like, this is kind of fun. So then we kind of turned it into this game show that we started to do live and we actually, wait, when's this out?

September 6th. Damn it. We have a show on September 10th. We already had a show on September 10th at Dynasty. But it's fine. It's fine. It's all good. We're probably 16th.

Oh, well, you can still buy the VOD from Dynasty. Absolutely. That's everything. But yeah, we started doing this as a live show. And it's just a. really great time for people to come and argue about stupid shit. And you'd be doing debating. You'd be arguing. We'd be debating. We get three people together. They debate a topic. That's literally what we're doing right now. It's probably something we do like this. We could,

if we had another host, it would be, it would be arguing about a topic. Then we have, then there would be a winner there. Three people come argue about another topic. Then we have a losers round where everyone has to play a game called Defend This. We're like, it's basically Jeopardy and you have to defend really indefensible topics. Oh, I love that. And then the audience votes whether or not you did it or not. And then there's like a final championship round of the winners of I want to play Defend This It's quite fun

It's quite fun Bring us on one day We'll do We'll defend the whole thing But yeah we've been We've been having a great time We were just kind of like Continuing to

Find the footing of what the show is Kind of develop the tech around it Because we've now We've now got like a really great We like developed an app That you can vote live So that's fun to see the like The results live and everything

But it's fun Get into my like my game show you know, host area. I love that. Would you like to sharpen your debate skills right now really quick? Yeah. Okay. Sure. I'm usually just hosting. So I made a little of your So we just want to get your take on some really stupid debatable topics.

It's a very polarizing, unimportant topic. This sounds like something I should know how to do well. So this is the great debate music. Oh, oh. Come music. Okay. So this is Here are some things that we're going to talk about. Is cereal in milk a soup? No.

Okay, why not? Cereal and milk is not a soup. Cereal and milk is like an add-on. It's like an ingredient because cereal with milk is like its own, it's a dish. It's its own category of dish. It's like baking a cake. You know, you're not going to make a cake that with just flour. And call it a pie.

Exactly. You're not going to. Thank you. You're not going to have a bowl of cereal with just, you could have dry cereal, but that's not a bowl of cereal. Does that mean a bowl of milk is a soup? No, a bowl of milk is just an ingredient. A bowl of milk is a glass of milk, but just a bigger glass. It's a bowl.

That's a huge crazy take. A bowl of milk is a glass of milk. I consider cereal milk in cereal like an ingredient. It is not a soup. The reason I think that you're right about this is because oatmeal is referred to as hot cereal, which makes me feel like, okay, yeah, cereal is a genre. of food. And you add milk and you and then you put it in the microwave and then it's hot and then it's and then it congeals. You can't call oatmeal a soup. Okay. So the take here is cereal is its own

genre. Yeah. As soup is. Yeah. A bowl of cereal is a dish. Serial itself is an ingredient. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So together it is a bowl of, it is a bowl of cereal. Okay. Okay. Great. The same way you put cereal on like ice cream. You know when people like use cereal as like a topping for ice cream? I be doing that. Or like you put corn flakes and chocolate and stuff. It's like it's an ingredient. Okay. You could eat it on its own.

Okay. Perfect. So does that make a hot dog a sandwich or no? Okay. It's a hard one. Okay. A hot dog a sandwich. Is there another thing that it could, are you saying it's either a sandwich or it's a hot dog?

Or it's a hot dog? A hot dog? A hot dog? Does a hot dog count as a sandwich? Yes. Yeah? Yes. Because it's meat between bread.

Because there's two pieces of bread that fold. Yeah. And frankly, you could eat a hot dog where you rip the edge. Yeah. That's my thing. I guess that it counts as a sandwich in my head if you were to rip the edge of it. Would you consider a pita pocket a sandwich? Yeah.

Same thing. You open it up. You just put it in. There's a closed back of it. Uncrustibles are sandwiches with a closed butt. Yes. And a hot dog bun is just a sandwich with a closed back. One open butt.

One closed butt. Yeah. Open mouth closed butt. Yeah. Open mouth closed butt. Which is like how I like to enter the party. How we like to do it, ladies. Open mouth, closed butt.

That's me every weekend. A hot dog is an uncrustable. Okay, a hot dog is an uncrustable that was sliced open on one end. Okay. I would, yeah. I actually think a hot dog uncrustable would be like a pigs in a blanket. Yeah, that is true. Because it's fully wrapped around.

That is a corn dog. That is exactly what it is. A corn dog is a hot dog uncrustable. Yes. Thank you. Yes. And a corn dog is not a sandwich. No, a corn dog.

Oh, my God, you're right. But that's because it's on a stick. Sandwich is technically. On sticks. It's technically a skewered. It's a kebob. It's a kebob. A corn dog is a kebob.

A corn dog is a kebob. Yes. If you had a- If you served a corn dog on a plate and you sliced open one end of the corn dog and you can put stuff in it, then it would be a sandwich. Yeah, if you took the stick out and sliced it open. Also, I think the cornmeal itself is not bread. It's an ingredient. It's an ingredient.

No, not bread. That's a good point. It's not bread. This is good. Okay. Next. Okay. What toys should adults be allowed to have?

Wow. Legos. Oh, okay. Legos. Okay. Okay. Legos, easy. I think haunted dolls.

Vibrator. Didn't someone just buy, didn't some guy just buy Anabelle? Matt Rife just bought a haunted doll. Why would you do that? I left a haunted doll in my apartment when I moved out. Yes.

We'll put a picture of it up here. We put it in the fridge. I put it on top of the fridge and the whole apartment was clean and empty and the only thing. My friend Adam got me a haunted doll for my birthday from a thrift store. How did you know was haunted?

Oh, it's so haunted. It's like a scary doll. I'll show you the picture of it. Did you do things to you and your home? No, no, but you just look at it. We liked you. It was, it was, it and I were totally fine. And I, like, talked to it.

And I was like, we got to pass on your curse to the people in this building. We were not the tenants. We were, uh, Olivia had a bad experience on her last apartment. Me having a bad experience. And we were cleaning out her stuff. And she was like, I just don't know what to keep and what to leave. Yeah. And that one was a pretty clear.

Yeah. I mean, if it stayed, if it came with me, then I'd be haunted. Yeah. And you don't want that. The apartment's already haunted. But I do believe that adults are allowed to keep a collection of dolls. because it makes them an adult with dolls. I think adults are allowed to have toys,

and I know that that's a kind of a cringy tape. Video games are toys. Yeah. And they have video games. But like, I also think having action figures is cool, and I think we should normalize adults with action figures who take them out of the box. And play with them.

And play with them. And take off their clothes and make them cut up. Yes, and put them in little cups of water, and then freeze them. Yeah. And then take them out. And then they're ice and then you watch the melt, which is something I used to do with a kid for some reason.

Be an adult and watch your action figure melt. And then make it kiss another action figure and swap their clothes around. And be an adult and take off the clothes of your Barbies and wonder about your sexuality. 100%. What? And you try to put the clothes on. What about adult stuffed animals? Adult stuffed animals?

Yeah. Like are we talking about like squish mullos? What are those? You know, yeah, squish mallows. They're just a pillow. I guess what I run into, which is tricky, is. that I was a very, very, very hard-core stuffed animal kid. And I anthropomorphized every single thing I owned.

I anthropomorphized every. Like, when I got a stuffed animal, I'd have to cut all the tags off really close because real animals don't have tags. Of course, it's not the ones you've seen. I didn't like the ones with smiles because they didn't look real. Like in my head, I was like, these are alive, these are real.

And because me brain is still like that. My brain is like this. Like, it is like once I anthropomorphize something, it is hard for me to take the humanity away from it. That's beautiful. I'm like, my car is alive and it's like, no, it's fucking not. My car's a gal. Like, no, it's not.

I get in her every day. But I also don't want to be like a stuffed animal adult. And what is the stuffed animal adult? Just an adult that carries around a stuffed animal or has a bunch of stuffed animals. I think if you have them, it's okay because they, again, they're also like pillows. Yeah. When I say carry around, that is like a specific type of person. That's not what I would be aiming for, but it is.

Stuffed animal is a pillow. Okay. Stuffed animal is a pillow. A hot dog is an uncrustable. Stuffed animal as a pillow is a good way to not justify it. Yes. It's a good way to not feel as stuffed animals. Yeah.

I think that carrying them around is interesting. It's interesting. I don't want to judge. I think you can do it at when if you've just gotten that. Like you're at a theme park and just one one you can create it around. You're in little Tokyo and you pop into a store and you're like, oh my God, so fun. I'm going to buy this $5,000 plushy. You can carry it around.

like, but to the car. As a comfort if needed, I was at the, I took my dog to the vet the other night. She's okay. She just has a UTI. Okay. But someone came in and they, I think they had to, they were going to put a cat down. And they were how to stuff to animal. And I was like, that's okay.

That's okay. But like, you're not going to go to your job. And you know, the Labibuos are ugly. Oh, yeah. I don't understand the other ugly, horrible little things. They're ugly and they're haunted and they're ugly. They're ugly and they're hunted. Those are things where it's like, talk about taking off the clothes.

It's like you can get those naked and it's weird. You can count their teeth. You can take off their like skin. You can count their teeth. What does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? Like just actually count them? Yes.

They all have different. And you can tell if it's a real luboo if you count its teeth. Oh. Yeah. Like a tree with rings. Yes. Oh, God, that's terrifying. Is it their age?

It's their age. How many is good teeth? Yeah, how many teeth is good teeth? The idea of having a stuffed animal that's like 30 years old is very bad. Yeah, and it just keeps adding more teeth. If the lubu gets older, it gets more teeth. Then I guess the idea of like if you do have a stuffed animal, can you sleep with a stuffed animal if you're an adult? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess, yeah. Yeah, because I sleep with a pillow. I'm like, I need like six pillows. Oh, yeah. You're a big pillow guy. Like I got pillow between the legs. Legs arm. I got hug a pillow.

Yep. Sometimes if my back's hurting, I get to. a pillow on my lower back. Oh yeah. And I obviously would sleep on. Yeah. So I'm like, if I needed to, if, if you just like mad lipped my pillows with stuffed animals, that would also be fine. Yeah. It is practical. Yeah. Like I think what's hard for me too is like if someone ever gives me a stuffed animal for any reason in any random situation, it is hard for me to be like, well, I'm going to get rid of this because I'm like, well, it has feelings. And it's like, it doesn't. But, but now I also have. Do you immediately imprint onto these?

things like could you if they give it to you could you be like thank you and then like put a bag over its head so you don't do if you like don't look at it in size depends on how cute it is and also also if I have like a purpose if I'm like oh I'm going to give this to a kid that I know and they'll be happy then it's like all totally right you know but if it's like oh I'm going to donate this and just throw it out it's like oh no you know yeah um that's a that's a huge scare is sending thing like giving things away to goodwill hoping that they'll get to people hoping that they'll get to people, but also hoping that someone, the person who gave it to you

isn't just going to that goodwill. That's so funny. Yeah. I've had that fear too. That is such a big fear. Even though it's so irrational because there's a million goodwill. And they would never know that it was. And no one would know, but I'm like, yeah. Like, we've done that in the past, like, there was a, there was a, uh, what's the other goodwill? Salvation Army. God, thank you. Um, there was a Salvation Army in

Ann Arbor where we, where we went to school. And it was funny because you could tell there were times where people would find old Star Kid merch or DVDs or things at this specific Salvation Army. And you go, yep, that's someone, that's one of us probably who went, I don't want to move this dorms or something. That's so funny. It's crazy. Well, then you know that if you go to that one Salvation Army in Ann Arbor, Michigan, you can find some limited edition, pretty cool Star Kid. There's going to be some Star Kid shirts. There's going to be some DVDs. There's going to be a lot of good stuff. Oh, my morning. I bet you it's also going to be a bunch of garments with blood on them.

Get my blood. We have taken so much of your time. And we think you're just wonderful. Where can the people find you if they don't know where to find you? Okay. The people can find me on Instagram. I'm at Joni Ricker, J-O-N-Y-R-I-C-E-R. It's not your name.

But it's because by the time I got an Instagram, someone had taken my name. So I was like, okay, this will be. And then I'm also on, like, Twitter at Joey Richter. And then, like, you go to the StarKid channel on YouTube, Tin Cambrose on YouTube and on Instagram and everything. And I'm just floating around there doing all the stuff. You were a freaking delight. Yes.

And you have live shows at Dynasty Typewriter. Yeah, we got it. Yeah. You know, if you go to Tin Canbrose.com or TeamStarKid.com, I'm sure there will be digital tickets. The accessibility of theater is alive and well. Because of you got well. Because of you got well.

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