Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Bonus episode - Roman Kemp

Episode Date: August 14, 2020

This week, thanks to our friends at Nespresso, we’re giving you an extra shot of Table Manners with the dish of the airwaves & coffee enthusiast, Roman Kemp.With pop royalty as parents, Roman tells us about his musical upbringing (and his mum demanding family harmonies), having a Kray as a father & George Michael being his godfather! From pleasurable pizza in Positano, to eating fish eyes in the Jungle – this episode has it all. What a delight this was, enjoy (and maybe have a Nespresso iced coffee with it)!Disclaimer: I embarrassingly got my Bucks Fizz and my Pepsi & Shirley mixed up, mortifying and please forgive me Shirley! It was a hot day and I crossed my bubbly wires!  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with my mum, Lenny, over Zoom, standardly, for a special episode of Table Manners which is brought to you in partnership with Nespresso. Mum, do you remember when you got your first Nespresso? I loved it because it's so easy to use and it's so quick. We love Nespresso. We've both loved them for years. And now I've realised that you can use a Nespresso to make an iced coffee in your home with the Nespresso Virtua machine. You know how mad we are about coffee? We've got a cappuccino thingy in our book. We talked about coffee ice cream to Sammy Lustrat.

So this is honestly such a treat to be working with Nespresso. Which, I'm sorry, I do think they're pretty much like the Ferrari of the coffee world. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely gorgeous sleek machines. So the guest we've got on today is a coffee lover. It's not George Clooney, is it? I'm afraid not, Mum. I'm afraid not.

It is the UK's answer to George Clooney on the radio airwaves, though. His name is Roman Kemp. Roman is such a good name I was going to call my son Roman I love that name yeah and Roman Kemp is Capital FM's breakfast host darling it's a shame he's on the radio because he's very handsome he is cute isn't he yeah very oh my husband's just bringing me an espresso iced coffee don't worry about it thank you so much babe I love you hold on a minute Let me just do the little taste test here. One sec. Babe, what do you think about that machine?

Beautiful. The best. I'm so glad it's announced. I'm changing my world. Changing his world, he said. And he's a big coffee snob. Aye, yeah, babe. That is cold.

It is delicious. It's hitting the spot, babe. I'm loving it. Anyway, we have Roman Kemp coming up. Now, we were supposed to have Roman Kemp as a guest during our live shows that sadly got cancelled due to Miss Corona. So, darling, I don't want you to objectify coronavirus, nor call it a woman, if you wouldn't mind.

Okay, sorry. Sergeant Corona? The Wretched Corona. The Wretched Corona. The Wretched Corona. All right, fine. So it's really nice to be able to catch up with him today and hear how he is. He's got a new TV show with his dad.

So he's working with his dad now. You've been on it, darling. Yes, I know, Mum. I was just gearing up to that. Jesus. I was a bit sorry that I wasn't invited too as a pair. Yeah, I mean... Darling, we're like strawberries and cream, Jessie and Lenny.

Ying and yang, salt and pepper, sweet and sour. Yeah. You're the sour one. When you think of Jessie, you think of Lenny. Coffee and chocolate. Roman Kemp, thank you so much for doing this. Finally, we get to see you and chat to you when we were supposed to have you on our live shows.

It's really nice to see you. No, it's so nice to see you too. I know you've come on to my TV show, so I feel like this has been way too long overdue. I was really excited to do the live show, so I was gutted, which I'm sure you guys as well. Well, you're here now looking very handsome, Roman. I mean, my mum's already objectified you in the intro.

I objectify everyone. Looking absolutely a dish. How's things? What's going on? You know, the killer questions. Yeah, no, it's been a really strange time. I've been super busy because, I mean I was lucky that you know I could I could go into the studio and and be able to to do my job and and I think that was the main thing for me was was was carrying on and I know that I spoke to both my parents about um you know

worried about going in because I feel like at 27 like what can I say to the nation in terms of how do I calm people down so my dad and my mum were just like you know it's kind of like your responsibility that you have to go in and you know you have to keep it moving and and just try and make it a little bit fun so we just basically I've just been trying to do silly things over the past three four months you're regarded as a key worker aren't you because of being a broadcaster yeah i mean that's that's when you know when that first got announced i'm not gonna lie it was a little bit scary because everyone was like oh yeah let's work from home let's let's do that and then and then all of a sudden you're just in this state where you're like okay you're going in and but listen what we do is is so minimal like in comparison to what is going

on on the planet and the only way that we kind of were looking at it and when we realized that okay there's a real responsibility here was when um we had like i would on daily would get texts being sent in saying oh we're on x you know ward at the moment and and we've got you on and and uh or you know with all the nurses here all the doctors here and they're all listening and you know and it's not just that it's like you've got the people that are listening and then also you've got the families of people that are affected by it in the waiting rooms and you know that your voice is being heard so there's there's a level of like sensitivity um that you have to cater towards but also at the same time you're trying to provide a

little bit of like relief so not a lie like I work myself up a little bit about kind of like, what do I say? But I think that the best thing out of all of this is that it's just created a realness with, I think, everyone, you know, and big celebrities that are out there and all that type of stuff. Like I think everyone's seen a real true side to a lot of people. I wanted to know you know you're working with your father now on this tv show that I was on thank you very much for having me um not you didn't invite me why Jesse just comes as a package my dad told me that that he's actually got um uh a distancing law against you so so it wasn't able to do it um he said that he said that

you had been sending cards and all sorts during the years and and to be honest i just didn't know if it was worth the risk he didn't know well i was a bit worried about coming near one of the craze so there you go touche mother what's it like having a father who's a cray do you know what it's it's actually it's weirdly right and i never really talk about this but it's helped me in certain scenarios like i've been there there are actually a lot of times where i've been out like obviously i live in london right so there's there's been a lot of times where i've been out and it's been a bit of a, maybe in a bit of a dodgy area. And then I've had cab drivers like pick me up and just take me home and be like, oh, no, don't worry about paying or anything like that. And I'm like, why?

And they're just like, oh, because, you know, the craze and that. Like, you know, I'm friends with, I was friends with Reg. I was friends with Ronnie and all this type of stuff. I know it's all good. You're joking. was friends with Reg I was friends with Ronnie and all this type of stuff no no it's all good and to be honest like I actually think that people think that my my dad and my uncle are like related in some way to them like I don't think they make the connection that hang on it's not real but convincing performance that's for sure yeah I mean do you know what like that's actually I mean it's a horror movie you know that movie still movie still for me is one of the best ever. But, I mean, I wish my dad couldn't be here today.

But one day we were at home and we had a knock on the door and it was the police. And the police had brought over like a tube that had been delivered, hand-delivered from Dartmoor Prison, right? Dartmoor Prison. And my dad opens it up. You're joking. Yeah, my dad opens it up. He goes, what is this, right? Opens it up, and it was some drawings and paintings

from Charles Bronson, right? Charlie Bronson, if you don't know who he is, he's the most... Yeah, of course we do. Yeah, the most dangerous prisoner out there. Criminal on earth. Yeah. And it was like,

and he had drawn a picture of him and my dad next to each other, like their faces next to each other. Underneath it, it says, Respect. And then it's like... Oh my God! Loads of eyes flying over a prison wall and then it's like oh my god loads of

like eyes flying over a prison wall and it's like it's mad like it's the scariest thing and then on the back on the back of the painting is like a letter that he's written my dad and like the spelling's all out like it's great it's like oh thanks for looking after people like us and supporting us and and doing us a favor and all this other stuff. So I... Well, you'll be all right in the underworld then. Yeah, so I'm hoping that if it ever all goes sour, I'll just say I know them. But it's a great bit of art that we have, you know,

because he was a fantastic artist. What's he done with it? I framed it. We framed it. It's on a double-sided frame so that you can see the letter on the back oh my god I need to see that picture

I wanted to know what was it like growing up with both musicians your parents are both musicians your mum is Shirley

yes Shirley from Buck Fizz right no Pepsi and Shirley Jessica sorry they're all the same Bananarama Buck's Fizz right? No Pepsi and Shirley. They're all the same Bananarama, Bucks Fizz, Pepsi and Shirley.

They wore very short skirts and they were gorgeous. So sorry that's so rude Roman. So you you were brought up in a house of music and creativity and you even had a deal when you were 15 with Universal right yeah so you're a singer too no so it was it was kind of it was a bit of a strange one it was a bit of a strange one because it was like I guess my parents always my mum specifically always wanted me to to do music always um uh you know for either whether it was via my dad telling me to do that and you know teaching me how to play guitar and bass and all these things and you know or it was my dad telling me to do that and, you know, teaching me how to play guitar and bass and all these things. And, you know,

where it was my mom telling me how to harmonize and all these types of things. And because my mom used to play Alanis Morissette in the car and we were only allowed to sing along if I could do the harmony to it. So she's one of them, right? She's like, I like your music, so don't sing it out of tune. Yeah, exactly. Soccer mom, I love it.

Yeah. the music so balancing it out of tune yeah exactly soccer mom i love it yeah and then i i actually um i was working with a music management company and like just like trying to get like saturday job money all those types of things and then one day it was it just kind of escalated and then i was asked if i would want to have a deal with Universal on like a development basis. So it's like, be a part of this project or could you help us with this project? And I was 15 to 18 doing it, you know, but it was great. I was in the studio, you know, you're writing tracks and, you know, all your sessioning for other people live, played great venues,

all those types of things was part of band projects but it was great but i just think that like it just wasn't for me i i don't know why i just i i took so much from it and i think it was just all it all happened when i was too young basically that's what i think i think that i'm very like outspoken in terms of like if i don't like something i'll end it and like I'll walk away from it and uh it just happened with that but can you sing I'm listen I'm not a lead vocalist but you can hold a tune I can hold a tune can you play guitar I play I play guitar and I play bass my dad was always more up on me playing bass so whenever I used to session for people whenever

I used to play live it would always be bass okay note, we had Alanis on for the podcast. Oh my God. Yeah, dude. It was sick. That is insane. Yeah. My mum used to fly around the world watching her. Yeah, she's phenomenal.

Wow. She is phenomenal. Well, you must have been about three because I, Jessie was 10 or 11 when Jagged Little Pill came out. So you were tiny yeah my mum was always really up on me songwriting or just understanding music as much as possible my mum is the person for that and she basically would tell me about certain artists and say look this is how you write down a situation or a bad situation that's happened in your life and this is how you turn it into a positive well this is how you can use that um in creativity because

she grew up in quite like a i mean her family wasn't wasn't it wasn't the nicest environment to grow up in like people that when they didn't know how to deal with the situation they would just fight like like that's like my uncles and that that's they would literally get in physical fights so my mom to to know this whole world and obviously growing up with george just kind of showed her this is how you can use your energy and anything that's bad that's happened you can put it into music and and so the actually the first album she ever bought me was the marshall madders lp m&m and i was seven and uh and like oh mum yeah very cool mum like my mum would actually

get told off quite a lot by other parents because the other parents would always say oh your kids are too grown up you can't be showing your kids this or you like and and to be honest I think it held us in quite good stead um you mentioned George there and I presume you're talking about George Michael yeah who was your who was your godfather yeah so your mum and and George knew each other um how did they know each other did they grow up together yeah so they uh I mean they're best friends my my my my mum and George were like brother and sister so they went to school together in Bushy um and yeah like from day dot you know and it was one of those scenarios where my mom uh she tells this funny story and she says uh her and george were sat on his bed and they were 15 15 and they're like putting tapes in envelopes and sending them out to record labels and seeing you know what what

what happens and she said that all of them you know would come back and all this types of stuff and they would always get sent back and there was this one record and and and he was like oh I really like this one this is the one that think you know I think it's gonna go really well keeping in mind about like 16 at the time and all of this one record got sent back by all of the record labels and that was uh careless whisper yeah fuck you kidding me that is why is your mum of greek heritage or cypriot heritage no no no it was um i think she became an honorary greek um in george's household um you know his his mum and dad and and sisters were were all like so welcoming of my mom. And my mom was there all the time.

So for my mom, it was always kind of just her and her mate hanging out. And then all of a sudden they're in a band and all of a sudden they're in Live Aid performing. But how did she get to know Pepsi? So Pepsi then was, she, there was a lady called Dee who used to be a backing singer also with Wham. And then when Dee left, Pepsi came in. Okay. And then, you know, my mom and Pepsi would tour around the world with the band and everything like that. And they just kind of formed their own kind of notoriety, I suppose.

And then went to start it on their own and, you know, got top 10 hits, all those types of things. And I actually think they were the first collaboration that Topshop ever did. They were the first group to have their own range. So, you know, she's got some cool accolades. So your mum was essentially one of the first influencers before influencers were even, you know a kind of that kind of branding collaboration how interesting yeah yeah yeah so I you know and always I think that you know everyone always will always speak about my dad and but then when I look back at the things that my mum's done it's just like okay you know my mum was the first she was part of the first performances ever to be made

in China you know oh wow yeah and she said that as they were performing, there were people that would stand up and clap or dance and they'd be, like, beaten to the ground, like, because they're not allowed to do it and all they wanted to do was end the concert. So she's had some, like, crazy moments in her life. So whenever I go for advice or experience or anything like that, I go equally to both my mum and my mother.

I wanted to know, what was food in your family like? Because I can imagine that your parents were both quite busy. No, never there. Yeah, and, you know, doing such interesting jobs. And were you taken around the world with them? Or would they kind of be like, I'm going to work now? What was the dinner table like? A normal dinner table situation for you?

When my mum had Harley Moon, my sister, Now, what was the dinner table like? A normal dinner table situation for you? When my mum had Harley Moon, my sister, she wanted to just become a mum. She, you know, she did the most amazing job. And, you know, I didn't grow up with no one being home. I grew up with, you know, my parents always there. My dad would go and, you know, at this point he'd finished with the band so he was doing his tenders and

that's kind of almost like a nine to five so it would kind of be a full household basically all of the time and and my mum always does the cooking my mum's always up on home cooking like she's always you know trying to be a good cook my mum's a great cook my mum is fantastic what's her best dish i mean her homemade curries are ridiculous but like different types of homemade curries yeah yeah yeah yeah i do love them like like i do really love them and and food like that is it's kind of like we've always kind of been a bit more i guess alternative like one year we had sushi for christmas just because that's what we wanted to do and it wasn't like you know it's very liberal in a sense of, you know, we don't sit down and have Sunday roast as a family every,

every week. That was, that's never been a thing like in our kind of family life. I would say, I would say we probably have a handful of Sunday roasts every year, you know? So it was always very much, you know, cuisines from around the world purely because my parents had traveled so much, you know, and they always wanted to introduce us to different dishes and things like that. You know, like I don't like my sister, for instance. I don't know what eight year old is asking to have tagine. Tagine. Do you know what I mean? Like, but she's like that.

And, you know, and it was always kind of very cultured, I guess. You know, and I'm proud of that. Are you the oldest? No, my sister is three years older than me. How has it changed working with your dad? I have to know this because obviously I work with my mum now and I need to know whether it has changed things. It hasn't changed things because I've, I mean, like the relationship that you guys have is lovely as well and I think that for me and my dad I mean we are best mates like

that's how it is like it you know there's there's never been grounding or like anything like that like but but there's never needed to be at the same time because I think I'm so fortunate of how they've brought me up because they always gave me the opportunity to say my side. You know, there would be times in the past, my dad's spoken about this, where he would say, you know, I'd have a go at Ro about something. But then he'd say to me, well, no, I've done that because of this. And then instead of just being a parent and staying angry for the sake of being angry, would give that opportunity and and kind of see my side to it and I think as a kid I felt like I needed to respect that as much as possible um to keep that relationship so even through working you know we as a family like we're constantly like honestly it's a joke like like if you if you were to come to my house just on like any day my sister will be over in the corner trying to write a song.

And my mum's doing the harmonies over the top of it. And then like my dad's trying to be like, oh yeah. And then what if you come in with this bit? And like, I'm just like, what is my family Robinson? Like, like, do you know what I mean? And it's just like mental, like, or they're like trying to think of a funny video to make or my dad's trying to film something and it's just like it's like a media art class every time I go home it's very creative though yeah and I think that you know do you sometimes just want to watch the news though

yeah yeah but honestly like that's the thing like sometimes I'm just like I just I just want to hang out like my mum's always my mum always comes back she's like oh you don't want to hang out with me when you come back I'm like yeah because I don't want to do a full-on photo shoot I just like, I just want to hang out. Like my mum always comes back and she's like, oh, you don't want to hang out with me when you come back? I'm like, yeah, because I don't want to do a full-on photo shoot. I just, all I want to do, all I want to do is just sit. Why can't we just watch a film? How often do you see them, Roman? Well, I was really lucky with Gogglebox. Gogglebox was really lucky because when I filmed that with my dad,

I get to go home, back to my home home. Where do they live? So they live in Hertfordshire. Yeah. And you live in London? Yeah. So I live in central London because of work, because I work in Leicester Square every day. So, you know, I have to be at work within 10 minutes just in case I wake up late.

But, you know, it's really nice going back out to Hertfordshire and seeing my parents and being able to spend time with them. Because I think because of the hours that I do it's really difficult because it'll come to the evening and they'll be like oh do you want to go for dinner and I'll be absolutely shattered already because I've been up since four o'clock in the morning well I was gonna ask you get up very early to do the breakfast show yeah and when do you eat do you have breakfast or when do you fit that in? I'd be hungry the whole day if I was up that early. Just tell me, when do you have your first coffee?

First coffee of the day is around seven o'clock. We try to do it about seven o'clock because so we get in there. I'm up. I'm on the bike at five o'clock in the morning going heading into work and uh when i get in i try and get the first hour out the way just to cry and just make sure my brain is naturally in gear and just is it yeah i'm all right i think i think if my parents were to to really look into it and i know they did when i was a kid I think my mom would realize that there's some serious ADHD going on there in terms of my brain um but it holds me in good stead for the job that I do one because I can talk non-stop and I do talk non-stop but it's also a thing of trying to multitask and I think that the reason why the coffee for me is is the most important isn't

necessarily to wake me up it's to keep you know it's like flying a plane like you know hosting hosting a radio show like that I've got four screens in front of me I've got 12 faders in front of me and you know you're trying to drive content and trying to to make people laugh at the same time so if you don't do it you'll go off air to three million people I have to ask have you tried the nespresso virtual machine yes i have indeed have you tried the iced coffee yet babe yeah mate honestly it is a key part of my day there you are ah you've got one there look i've got one too my husband um made me one they're so good aren't they funny enough i only really drink iced coffee. Really? Why? Yeah. I just, for some reason, like, I've always been a cold drinks fan. And then, like, I remember growing up, my parents were always like, oh, like, oh, you know, like when I was like 18 or something,

my parents were always like, oh, do you want a coffee for after dinner and stuff like that? And then I never really could get into it. And I think as I've gotten older, I've just realized, hang on a minute, it wasn't the taste of it. It was just the temperature of it so for me like iced coffee is like the one yeah mate tiramisu is my favorite dessert on this planet same as jesse okay well then let's go into this would it be your pudding for your desert island meal 100% tiramisu it will be well it's a selection of two things it'll be tiramisu or it'll be sticky toffee pudding with ice cream it's one of the two.

Okay. So what's your starter for your Desert Island meal before you're going off to the Desert Island? Ooh. Well, see, this is the thing. The thing is, so I did I'm a Celebrity back in November. Oh, yeah. Yes. And on that, if you get to the final, you get a final meal.

Oh, yeah. And you get like a full dinner and i really like at that point you really start to believe your stomach had shrunk yeah but honestly i can put it away don't worry about me i was all right but but i i really like went into this place where i was like oh my god this this is like what if they take this away from me what if it's you know all a lie and so i really need to think about this and i went for um a starter of crispy calamari garlic aioli oh oh yeah now you're talking yeah and then and then i i'm not gonna lie i went really basic i felt basic but i loved it uh for for the main I went for like a proper deep pan

cheese stuffed crust pizza with the garlic dip because you if you don't have a garlic dip and yeah I totally agree with you on that yeah you're doing it wrong if you don't have that and then yeah and then I actually I finished it off with we had a tiramisu and sticky tofu pudding so I've always I have this thought a lot about my last meal and i it was weird that i got to play it out and when you're in the middle of the jungle you genuinely feel like this is your last thing roman did you eat insects yeah so i i i unfortunately um i wasn't aware right so when when when you're in there, you get paranoid because, you know, you're kind of thinking,

if you get voted for a trial, it's one of two reasons. It's either A, people think you're funny. People all love you or hate you. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, and I got voted for on the second trial there. And I was like, you know, I don't know, like, blah, blah. Did you feel like the nation didn't like you? Is that how it feels? Is it like you know I don't know like blah blah did you feel like the nation didn't like you is that how it feels is it like a popularity thing we were like oh my god Jessica

no but I don't know he's so handsome all the young girls they just wanted more airtime yeah more airtime okay fine okay that makes sense thank you but I mean I mean I to be honest I don't know like I've always been lucky in terms of I've always felt like okay if I'm in a bad situation I feel like I can win someone over just with a conversation I feel like I feel like I can you know I know that I know I'm not a bad person so so you know I knew in there I was just like you know I'm literally just gonna be how I am and I'm so glad I did that because it did help in my favor but with with that one it was an eating one it was an eating challenge and um I ate everything like I ate bull penis kangaroo balls I ate fish eyes oh god yeah yeah and the fish eye right so the fish eye this is a little bit gross right so the fish eye when you put it in your mouth right one it's super super

super salty and then and then it's um it's really slimy and then as the best option to do is just to bite straight into it and when you bite straight into a fish eye it squirts stuff out there is a lot of fluid i actually feel faint sorry the only way that i can describe the fluid is like popping a spot no you know when you go swimming in the sea and imagine there's a big bit of seaweed that's along with the water and you swallow a lot of that water and it's salt like and it's just slimy and and that's what it was and then and then i remember just biting into it just and i i bit down i tasted that and i swallowed it straight away and then you still got a chew and then as i'm chewing i heard this massive crunch right and i felt my teeth and i thought it was my own teeth i thought i you know busted one of my

two because it was hard it was like bone and i was like what is that and uh i remember and I remember Ant and Dec just being like, oh, that's the lens. Oh, for God's sake. Oh, no, I'm sorry. You deserve to be in the final Babes. Why did you do it, Roman? Why would you want to do it? Yeah. Because that show, like, I think being in my position,

I, you know, I'm lucky enough to be asked to do a lot of those shows. Your Strictly's or SAS or whatever, right? But that show for me is so close to my heart because I remember watching that first episode, the very first one, when Tony Blackburn was in it. And us as a family, we have sat down and watched that show for so long and I couldn't believe it when I was when I was in there I was constantly stopping going I'm in the show I'm actually there and I'm so glad that I did it because it was the best experience of my life and and it was it was something that was humbling it was something that was humbling. It was something that was adventurous and terrifying. And every emotion that you can ever think of.

And you build a real, I know a lot of people will, you know, you hear everyone say it. And I always used to think, oh, yeah, you know, that can't really be true. But you build a certain bond with these people that when you're in there, they are your brothers and sisters. I wanted to know, I'm intrigued by holidays with your family and where you like to go and where, and also some of your favourite places to eat, kind of in the world or in London hit me I listen I have been so lucky and again you know like I've I've had the most privileged childhood I think someone can have and I've been able to to to fly around the world with my parents and

have great holidays and the holiday destination that is the classic footballer holiday destination of Barbados always would come up. You know, Pepsi's from St. Lucia as well. And she's my, you know, she's my godmother. So we'll go to St. Lucia. I think the Caribbean has always been. Yeah, it's gorgeous. That for me is, that's paradise.

And I think with that, it actually became one of my favorite cuisines. Caribbean food is still one of my of my favorite cuisines caribbean food is still one of my favorite favorite cuisines like a lamb roti and and rice and beans and things like that are and plantain is one of my favorite dishes definitely uh there's a couple of caribbean places that i eat in south london where do you go in south london there's there's turtle bays in south london and and London and there's little independent ones, like around Brixton. And it's nice being able to have that proper home-cooked food. I really enjoy that.

But for me, listen, I think the best place I've ever had food in my life for really going into food is Positano in Italy. Oh, it's gorgeous. Like, I actually think, I didn't know if it was possible to orgasm from food, and I actually think it happened then. I'm sorry, excuse my language. It's fine, it's okay.

Orgasms are normal, Roman. Yeah, I know, but I genuinely... Not usually when you eat spaghetti, but... Well, the good thing this was pizza then um but yeah no I I know that that is the best meal that I've ever had on on this planet for sure I ate at a restaurant in Positano and and that definitely I had I had a uh a pasta dish and they give you like a garlic pizza bread to start and then again a tiramisu to finish. It was the most Italian thing ever,

but I know for sure that was the best meal I've ever had ever. Are you going away this year? I'm going to try. I'm going to try and go away. It depends on what the situation is, if I'm totally honest. I don't think anyone knows what the situation is right now. I'm going. You are.

You're very lucky. I'm going to Greece. Oh, lovely. I love that Greek food. Me too. Did you eat a lot with George and his family then and had lots of Greek separate food or did they not really cook that kind of food?

No, I think my mum would have done back in the day, but I think whenever we would have dinner with George, it would always be my mom's cooking or or or anything or you know anything like we've been on on holidays where it's just anything you want you know and it's it's insane but um i think definitely i i know for a fact my my parents and my mom like i'd say probably the main thing that gets cooked in my house especially for lunches and stuff is very very much Persian, Greek, Turkish food. Like that's that's always been the kind of go to like hummus is on tap at my house and tzatziki. And like, you know, I grew up having tzatziki for lunch.

So, yeah, I guess I guess we've always kind of had um there's always an olive or two going around in my house I wanted to ask you um what what is next for you I mean you're doing you do the capital breakfast show you are having a lovely time doing that um what I feel like you could do anything because you seem to get a record deal at 15 and you do a radio show you the youngest radio breakfast radio presenter in the uk ever right all the world um like what's next well i think to be honest i i love doing the jobs that make me laugh and the jobs that i enjoy and i've always maintained that and i want to maintain that you know a lot of people will say oh why do you not want to go to to tv it's bigger and all those types of things and I do but it has to be the right

project it has to be the right thing I think the really liberating thing that that I have throughout all of this and I think I've only kind of realized it since you know the jungle and situations like that the most liberating thing that I've got from my parents and growing up with with them and growing up with you know family members whether it's Pepsi or George or whatever the thing that I've realized is that for me fame is there's there's pros and cons to the jobs that we do and fame is is a price that you pay it's it's a con that you pay and for me it is it is all about just being able to enjoy the moments that i am having and be able to really like not stress myself out and thinking art needs to be the next big thing it needs to be the next big thing because those things will come and and if

you don't you're going to wish your life away and you're constantly never going to be happy um and i know that my both my parents always say that to me they always say that you know when they were kids they always wanted the next number one record. They always wanted the next thing and that they never actually enjoyed the moment that they were in. So I'm really happy where I am. I think, you know, there's shows that I look at and, you know, I'd love to be able to do that.

I love talking to people and having that. And I think that... But you must, you must be, there must be a limit to how long you can do a breakfast show. Because it's exhausting and you're a young man, your social life and everything. Yeah, I mean, lucky for me. Do you know what? I'm quite dull as it is.

I'm not a, I'm not. You're a home bird. No, I am. I'm a massive home bird. I don't really drink. I don't do any of that. I don't really go out and don't do any of that. I don't really go out and party and all those types of things. I've got a very close-knit group of friends and

we just go to the pub. That's kind of my style. But I think that with breakfast and with radio, I think radio I can do until I'm dead and I hope to do it until I'm dead, you know, until they physically pull me away from a microphone, because I think there's something so personal about radio that I love. And there's something that something about doing things live that I get a massive adrenaline hit out of. And I also love the fact that you can't hide. You can't hide from that. You can't hide can't hide from live you know on tv there's stop start record you know if there's a day where you don't feel great on the radio you have to say it because it's obvious you know and and you have to to talk about it and you build a relationship that you wouldn't build with anyone else so i think with breakfast radio i mean my predecessors are i can't even believe it sometimes when i say this, it's so weird because I grew up listening to them. My predecessors are like Chris Tarrant

and Johnny Vaughn, which is ridiculous because I used to listen to them in the car on the way to school. And those guys did it 10 to 12 years. So I'm not going to be happy unless I hit 10 years, for sure. What is your karaoke song, Raymond? short what is your karaoke song oh uh my karaoke song um is is ray charles georgia on my mind oh what a lovely song yeah that's always been my song because i love ray charles and then when i always kind of listened to him when i was when i was really little when my parents used to show me him it'll either be that or or Elvis Presley, Wonder of You. I don't know if I know that one. Yeah, it's got a lot of Arsenal connotations to it.

So I'm a massive Arsenal fan. That's the wonder, the wonder of you. Yeah, exactly. Give me the horn, Raymond. Come on, while we're at it. Well, we should have definitely sung an Alanis Morissette if he can do the moment. Well, listen, that's like my mum,

like Christmas Day, right? Christmas Day is it being five o'clock in the afternoon. I'll be playing video games and then I can just hear my mum downstairs belting out Alanis Morissette on a karaoke whilst my dad is just sat there infatuated by my mom just watching her does he adore her still oh man like my mom and my dad they have the best relationship how lovely yeah yeah yeah yeah really really really nice how lovely for you

as well oh it's it's fantastic and you think, you know, it definitely installed such a sense of family and a want for a close knit family for me. Definitely. So I'm super, super lucky that we have them. you in the flesh having a nice uh an espresso together but also being able to cook for you we would have been able to cook you some nice cappuccino ice cream or something like that yeah but we'll have to meet you again someday i seem to only meet you through zoom at the moment yeah i know we'll have to do something in real life 100 but thank you so much darling yeah before we do the outro i'm rather hot i don't know that it's roman or the weather outside but i'm gonna go and quickly make myself a nice iced coffee with the um virtuoso call yourself down mama call myself down whilst you go make that i'm just going to say a big thank you to roman kemp that was so lovely to chat to you and just a kind of a huge cap for all of you for getting us to 100 episodes of table manners thank you so much i can't believe we're there we've had over 16 million

downloads and 100 episodes and so we are thrilled that you keep coming back for more so thank you so so much honestly we won't give up until you tell us to and it doesn't seem like you say don't give up are you back already i'm back darling that's quick. Jessie it is so easy to use one touch of a button and Bob's your uncle. I've got the most fabulous iced coffee. Thank you Roman Kemp for being on Table Manners and letting us see that cute little face. He is gorgeous but he's like a naturally lovely boy. He's really well brought up you can tell. Thank you to everyone listening. Thank you to Nespresso for a really fun episode. And go outside. I'm going to try and go outside and enjoy the sun with my iced coffee.

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