Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Charley Marlowe

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

‘iya to this weeks guest, the gorgeous Charley Marlowe! She travelled down from Manchester especially to come and join us for lunch and it was glorious. We heard all about Charley becoming the voice... of 'I Kissed A Girl’ on the BBC, taking on TikTok during lockdown, how honey is her secret ingredient in everything, her secret dress quick-change halfway through the BAFTAs, and what it was like finally meeting her idol, Jane McDonald. Thank you Charley for being so patient with us when both mum & I had a disaster with a mandolin (video to come). Charley really is a superstar presenter in the making, watch this space and she’ll be everywhere! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Details at fizz.ca. Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm feeling slightly faint because I've just sliced my finger off with a mandolin. And it wasn't Captain Coralis. No. I'm not gonna lie. Do you feel funny?
Starting point is 00:00:31 I do feel a bit funny and I'm fuming at you because I didn't need potatoes on the menu. I'm sorry. Anyway, I have been so excited to use my new mandolin and now I will, yeah I know it's seeping, it's seeping. Jessie, you then told me to take over and I've done so excited to use my new mandolin and now I will... yeah I know it's seeping, it's seeping. Jessie you then told me to take over and I've done the same thing. I don't think I did take... so it told you to take over, I think you went give it here. I think... no you didn't, you said mum can you do it? Yours is not as bad as mine.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Because I wrapped mine up very quickly, it isn't as bad as yours. How much do you think is missing? How many millimetres? I don't actually want to know but my nanny gorgeous Rosie really came in like Casualty. Yeah, she's definitely 24 hours in A&E. She's fantastic. Yeah, but I do feel quite peely-wally I'm feeling a bit odd But we have coming up on the podcast Charlie Marowe, who I've been such a fan of. She is the warmest, funniest content creator, I think, out there.
Starting point is 00:01:32 She does a lot of junkets. You'll have seen her charming Amy Lewood and Nicola Coughlin. She's a big fan of Jane McDonald. I met her at the Mighty Hoopla a couple of weekends ago, and I said, you must do the podcast. And so, yeah, I've invited invited her down she's coming down from Manchester I'm gonna talk to her all about well all things Charlie Marlowe okay and I've
Starting point is 00:01:52 been in charge of the cooking yeah good so Charlie said that didn't end well did it? but I am blaming you of course you are darling that's the job of a mother being blamed. Anyway, on the menu today, Mob Apps, Speedy Chicken, Roast Chicken. So Charlie had given us a heads up that she was a bit picky with certain textures. So, but she did say she liked roast chicken. So I was like, right, I'm just gonna do this really quick one.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So it's, you brown off some chicken Supremes, you know the one like bone in breast and legs. And then you, and some butter and olive oil, and then you put loads of sliced onions in, you put the chicken back in, you put some white wine in, and some Parmesan rinds. Put it in the oven, cook it till it's cooked through, and then you put Parmesan over the top,
Starting point is 00:02:43 and so it's kind of cheesy, whiny, oniony, delicious. It smells amazing. I made some sourdough so to dip all the lovely juices in. And we've got some steamed greens. And some potato and some gratin. I'd rather not talk about that. You have done some mandolin fucking potatoes in chicken stock and oregano. And then I've done a bass cheesecake and I've never made one of them before. Well it looks fair.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Thank you. Um, Charlie Marlowe is here at the pure chaos. We've both done our fingers in on the mandolin and I don't mean the guitar I mean the potato slicer because mum demanded potatoes when I wasn't going to do it because I've made a sourdough loaf But I thought you'd like potatoes with would you eat sourdough with cabbage? I would I would Lenny because I'm in your home. Well technically Jessie's out. I wouldn't reach for it. No exactly. I said she won't reach for it. No, but in a polite manner. I said she won't reach for it, Jessie. Put potatoes on it. Well now I can't reach for anything because I've got no fucking thumb.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's like casualty in here. I've not been allowed. No, me mum won't let me have a mandolin. No, they're lethal. They're dangerous. I got it on Deliveroo yesterday because I was like, oh yeah, I really need a mandolin because you know, need to do those lovely slice of potatoes. Well, yeah, now I'm just saying don't go to the bottom of the pan because there may be a bit of finger in there. Some gratin. Okay, so no, we heard you like roast chicken. I love roast chicken. So I'm doing a kind of easier version of roast chicken, which is a mob kitchen app recipe,
Starting point is 00:04:41 which is Chicken Supreme. So you know the bit when you get a breast but it's bone-in so it's a bit more juicy and then with loads of onions, white wine, garlic and parmesan. Oh stunning. And then we're having Basque cheesecake. Oh stunning, lovely. Now we did get a warning that you're funny with textures. Does a cheesecake give you the ick? No I could do a cheesecake. Okay what can't you do Charlie Marlowe? I can't... Listen, I think I've got that R-fed thing. What's R-fed? Oh, you have to have the foods...
Starting point is 00:05:12 No, I don't actually know what it is when I say it. Is it like... I think you have like five safe foods, but then I think I've got a plethora of safe foods. So maybe... I don't know. So maybe you don't have a problem? It's like if I think about a salad and I think, oh, yeah, chuck an avocado on it it and then if it was presented to me I'd like I'd really struggle to eat it. But do you like avocado and do you like salad? No
Starting point is 00:05:40 Okay, well then don't have the steam grease no, I do no I do I do I do Okay, well then don't have the steam grease. No, I do know I do. I do I do What sort of vegetables? I love a carrot. I was listening to Paddy McGinnis and carrots and turnip. Okay. Yeah sweet Is that we said? Yeah. Yeah, sorry. I didn't do that today. You're not getting that today It's all right anything that resembles like baby food. Okay. You like a puree. Yeah cauliflower. I'm not fond of broccoli love Sugar snaps love a sugar snap. Okay. I'll shove some I'll put a munch to another munch to okay I'm not that bad, but then it's like get a cucumber out. Forget about it. Oh Stinks anything that people say they can't taste it 70% water. Oh, I can watermelon again stinky
Starting point is 00:06:24 celery stinky well not so bad with the celery Stinky I wouldn't say celery was it's got something about it that just you're not into yeah, have you come down from Manchester? Yeah, thank you so much From Liverpool I'm from Manchester. I know you are. Which bit are you from, darling? I'm from Liverpool. Oh. So you wouldn't think that. Yeah, yeah. I was gonna commune with you then about being a manc.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Well, no, I do get mistaken for a manc. You're an honorary manc. Yeah. Your accent's not very Liverpool. I know, people get, so I've moved about a lot. So all my family are from Liverpool. Cheers, by the way. You've bought a lovely rosé.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh, thank you. Cheers. Cheers, everyone. After thank you. Cheers everyone. This is bleeding through so I will yeah. Oh freaking hell sorry. Oh my god do you think you need to stitch? Lovely. Let's all send for Marksies get you. We love Marks. Marks is back online! Oh my god! It's cyber attack. Except... What? You can't collect in store yet. And the delivery is two weeks.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That's a piss take. That's a piss take. Mum they've lost about £30 million. More? £4 million a day! Over about six, seven weeks. I've nearly gone under. Honest to God, you don't know I buy every day from hearts.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've nearly gone with them. You're gonna be okay, Lenny. No, she's gotta put, I would've had a breakdown. If they go bankrupt. I would, yeah, I would not. I went into the shop and I said, when's it gonna be sorted?
Starting point is 00:08:02 I can't cope. They said, let's not think about all the jobs that will be lost. No, they said, don't worry, we're back. The lady at Colliers Wood told me they were testing out. So it's two week delivery. So I won't be able to get a nice new granny pants for Glaston. So Liverpool, let's talk about Liverpool. Liverpool, so all my family,
Starting point is 00:08:23 so my dad's in the army. So we moved about. So I moved to Manchester for uni in 2018 and then I've stayed. You're not a Scouse. You do not have a Scouse. Scouser, Lenny, please. Oh really, is it offensive? Is it like calling a Jewish person a Jew? Yeah, it's a bit like, but we hate the Scousers of course. From Man United.
Starting point is 00:08:44 The Man United song. The Man United song. No, okay, United. Well, I used to live in Trafford Road. Did you? Yeah, so I'd see them all. I don't feel any discourse. Are you a blue or a red?
Starting point is 00:08:56 My dad's a blue. I've actually been trying to get him a season ticket for his father's, yeah. And someone said the waiting list starts in 2019. Well, it's gonna be a new ground, isn't it? Oh, It's lovely Ground already So they moved out of goodison didn't they yeah, but freaking out apparently the waiting list is like six years long
Starting point is 00:09:17 No, no, where are you living at the moment? I live in Manchester I live in which center city center is it what. City Centre. City Centre. Is it a quarter? Sometimes they call different bits of Manchester very fancy parts like the Northern Quarter. Yeah, there's water, water. So I'm quite near Ancoats. Oh, it's cool out there. There's spinning fields. Spinning fields are cool. Deansgate. Spinning fields, of course, where the infamous Soho House is coming. Oh, no. Not ready yet. Oh my goodness. So, our house has hit Manchester. I know, take it away, I say. Not because it's sick.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Why? I don't know, it's just a bit too long. I just feel a bit too many people are coming up now because the rent's cheaper. Yeah. It's not for me, it's getting more expensive. Oh no, yeah. So, let's talk about Liverpool.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. Dad, dad in the army. Yes.. Yeah moved around a lot. Yes, so I can imagine many different kitchens many a different yeah, who was cooking and who was round the dinner table So it's me me me mom my dad just you three. Yeah, and the dog me mom. My dad can't cook save his life So it's just me mommy's cooking. She's a very, very good cook. Yeah. But yeah, we'd have all sorts. We didn't have a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So it was often, but I called her before this. I said, what did we eat? A lot of jacket potato. A lot of- What were the toppings? Cheese and beans always. Okay. Tuna if we felt a little bit mad.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah. We'd have steak pie on a Sunday. She makes a lovely sticky toffee pudding. Oh yum. Everything homemade. I can make a lovely tomato sauce. I'd make the scones. You'd make the scones?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Oh I was really good at making scones, yeah. Have you been on Bake Off yet? No, but that's my favorite episode was with Mel and Sue in lockdown. Oh. That was really good. What are we? Yeah, that is so sweet. They were sitting in a wardrobe, do you remember?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yes, yeah, and Sue was trying to clear out the whole larder. But she had clothes on her head. They're lovely. I love them. I'd love to meet Sue Perkins. You need to do Bake Off. I'd frigging love to do Bake Off. Would you?
Starting point is 00:11:23 I've got a real, I don't know if it's like the lesbian in me or if it's some like feminist thing but it's that Paul Hollywood shake, I just, in like a, in a nice way, not like in a like, you know What, you want it? Call the police. No, I'd want to smack him. Oh. You know like when he does the- Or you wouldn't, the eyes. I don't know, I just, I feel like-
Starting point is 00:11:39 Mind you've got lovely eyes as well, so you out-eye him. Stop it. I don't know, I almost see him as like my dad. Do you want to slap your dad? No but just you know when you want it like you can go see your dad like fuck it shut up. I think I'd give Prue leave the handshake. Is she still on it? Yeah. Oh Jessie that looks amazing. Thank you so much. Wow. Wow. It's a lot of cheese. Just back off. Cheese is like a fondue. So when your dad's been stationed in the different, have you been abroad? Yeah. So where was the best food that you were stationed when you were stationed or do you just get the the kind of the barracks food? No we were, so when we lived in Germany, I loved the Christmas markets there.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I bet you did. Just got like all the Danish and the bakeries and stuff like that. Like they'd always be like markets on. Wiener Schnitzel. Oh, I loved a Schnitzel. Yeah. Schnitzel, can't say it right.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Schnitzel. What else? When we lived in Cyprus. What was that like? That was gorgeous. Did you go to Annyanapa every weekend? Oh my god, yeah. We'd always go to...
Starting point is 00:12:46 No, you know what? That... Because we didn't have like, like holidays when we were there. We'd just go to different places in Cyprus. So we'd always go to the Turkish side. Oh, did you? We'd go to the Trudos Mountains.
Starting point is 00:12:57 We'd go to Ayanapa. We'd go... I think we went one time to the Panhandle. And there's been great whites spotted by there. I'm a big shark fan. Are you? Yeah, big. Oh, I love sharks.
Starting point is 00:13:10 How did that happen? Dunno, just love them. Dunno if it's that one thing where you're like, hold on to it when you're younger. Have you swum with them? No, I wouldn't dare. Why would you swim with a shark? I thought you swam with dolphins.
Starting point is 00:13:23 No, it's a thing to go to cages, isn't it? Yeah, but have you ever seen 47 meters down? Oh my god. Don't forget it. Yeah. Scary. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I mean, I would love to. Why do you like them so much, then? I don't know. You're like friendly and sharks don't appear the most like Charlie Marlowe to me. Do you know what I mean? No, I just, I love them. I don't know if it's that thing where like, you know, when you have that, I don't know, something that you love when you're a child and you just cling onto it.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Like sharks and like Egyptian history for me. Oh really? Did you go to- Really? Did you go to- Tutankhamun. Is that what you did at uni? No, I did media before.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I wish I was that clever, Lenny. No, I wish I did Egyptology. But you were at Manchester doing? Salford, yeah. Salford. Salford Media Center. Good old Salford. Good old Salford. Salford Media Center. Good old Salford. Good old Salford, I loved it.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Are these the famous potatoes? Yeah, with the thumbs. Oh my God. Potato and throng gratin. Lenny, how do you prep for an interview when you've got someone around? It depends. It depends.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Jessie just said you're gonna love her, so I didn't. And I knew that you're very famous on TikTok, and you do all these red carpets, and you were the voice behind I Kissed A Girl. I Kissed A Girl, indeed. How did you get that gig? Did you do an audition? Yeah, she's just. You had an audition?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Oh yeah, and they were quite annoyed. In fact, no, was it the audition I did? When they were, I'd just got Invisalign, so I had to get all of these like composite fondant, all these bumps on my teeth, so I had Invisalign strapped to me. I was like, sorry, I've got to keep it in for at least two days.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I was like, this time on the matria. And they were like, next time you come in, can you not do that? I was like, sorry, yeah, yeah, sorry about that, guys. Slobber coming out of me. Do you mind the consistency of onions? Love an onion. Okay, thank God. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Oh my God, this looks amazing. And this is why one has the bread to dip. Thank you so much. Okay, we'll do both. Freaking out. Have some bread. We made this. Jessie made this. She's a domestic goddess. How do you do this with all the sourdough starts? Cause that's what I can't be honest with.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I just got really into it and it's like really, really satisfying. Now I don't know if the potatoes are fully done. You don't want this? No. I'm all mine. Thank you though. Thank you so very much. You are having a beige.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Oh, I've seen a bit of that. No, I haven't. Shut up. Thanks, Wayne. Wow. Did you like Greek food then in Cyprus? Yeah I was still quite fussy. Or did you prefer German schnitzel?
Starting point is 00:15:53 I loved a bit of schnitzel. I loved halloumi. Lot of pizzeria bread knocking about. Didn't go as far as to try hummus. Why? Just very fussy, eight year old. Okay how long were you there for about ten months the first time in two years also when somebody's going try it try it you'll love it you're just like that's when you're like adamant you're
Starting point is 00:16:12 not going to right like I was like do you do it with your kids and you're like you're not leaving the table so you finish that no no no I've stopped that because it doesn't work yeah that's cool yeah no but yeah there's no like, yeah, there's no, like, I just say there's no pudding. Like, that's fine. If you're full, then that's fine. So you won't be able to fit an ice cream in. Oh, I had that. It was like, either eat this vegetable soup,
Starting point is 00:16:35 or you're not leaving the table. And I'd be like, I hate you! Anything, yeah. Do you cook now? So what would be, if we were coming round to yours, what would you be cooking, Lenny and I? Oh, I think I might do a roast chicken too, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Or maybe a spag bol. Well I heard you talking about a spag bol the other day and I nearly dipped one for you. So what's your special ingredient in the spag bol? Honey! Honey on everything. Never had that. Oh. Honey on scrambled eggs, honey on everything.
Starting point is 00:17:04 What? I like honey the poo. Never had that. Oh. Honey and scrambled eggs, honey on everything. What? I'm like, I need a poo. I love it. Honestly, honey, I could just eat it by jar. And maple syrup, I could drink maple syrup. Like the good stuff from Canada. Would you say you've got a sweet tooth? Yeah, I think so. But for certain things, if you came to me
Starting point is 00:17:20 with a rocky road, I'm such a... So you're picky about yeah whereas I sticky toffee pudding oh it's that garlic oh yeah oh no that's me think oh I put ten cloves of garlic in one dish and I'll eat it and it'll be seeping out my pores and I can't smell it my girlfriend's like oh you're kind of unpredictable really I couldn't follow what your trend is in terms of food mmm I know we're like me little weird things you know what's really lovely what hummus and tuna oh you are eating hummus now oh yeah fucking love hummus oh
Starting point is 00:18:00 god when did you decide that you liked it at what age? When you left Cyprus. Yeah as soon as we left. No maybe about 13. A bit picky though only the Marksies hummus. Which one? Extra virgin. Any. Low fat. I find that the other supermarkets they're just not on par with it. Have you ever tried making it though? I think me and my mum have. And? Yeah, I think it was nice. I even make it too garlicky. Oh, that's not a problem. If you're in the house the next day.
Starting point is 00:18:33 What's the prep, but what's the prep for you? You know, on the red carpet meeting a lot of people, rubbing, you know, hobnobbing. Hobnobbing. Do you have like your prep before? Do you get, have you got a packet of cements? Yeah. Have you got a mirror to check that you haven't got any stuff in your teeth yeah
Starting point is 00:18:48 always a packet of smints who dresses you well I only I got my first custom dress the other way oh nice I felt like Madonna did you feel so yeah I felt so cool but I couldn't sit down because it was corseted I couldn't sit down it was that um agro studio who make a lot of Jade stuff. Right. So when it... So I did my red carpet stuff for the BAFTAs, and then we went in and it's a three-hour ceremony. Oi, yeah. Oh, and I was sat and I couldn't breathe, and I thought,
Starting point is 00:19:14 Ooh, how did you go for a wing? I had to go back to my hotel. It was ten minutes down the road. No, stop! I had to get reception to get me out of it. I went to my room, I stunk, got a shower, put on a black summer dress and went back to Royal Festival Hall. Like that. Hiya! I felt free. I felt free. It's my life. I got off the photo. I'd got, yeah this is it. Start wearing an all in one. Yeah. And you have to ask people in the toilets to help you. This is it. I got the picky. I was clean, I was fresh.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Do you think it was just because it was so tight that you perspired? It was that hot day. It was a very hot day. It was boiling. Some things just take too long. A meeting that could have been an email, someone explaining crypto, or switching mobile providers. Except with Fizz. Switching to Fizz is quick and easy.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Mobile plans start at $17 a month. Certain conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. How much do you prep for an interview? Because you, I mean you do a lot of red carpets where you're meeting so many different people and you are so, your style, and I don't know whether it's become something that you, it's just natural to you or you've kind of had to really work it out, doubt you've had to really work it out because you're brilliantly warm and funny but you're you're gifted at these one-liners that are considered one-liners you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's not like they're not... Because she's funny. You are funny, you are funny but like when did you discover this? I think when you're moving around a lot when you're little, it's either be funny or you've got no mates. Do you know what I mean? I think you've got to adapt a lot. But do you do standup?
Starting point is 00:21:13 No, you know what? I did him, I was doing it at uni for a bit because we were all gonna go to the fringe and then COVID hit and I never did it. I think you should be doing standup. I don't know, but I feel a bit too scared. Do you regard yourself as a comedian, or a TV personality, or a TikTok kind of content person,
Starting point is 00:21:33 or all of them? Never know what to say. I'd say presenter. Presenter. Presenter and content creator mainly. But, I don't know, it's hard, isn't it? I feel like it's like a new world of people doing half and half.
Starting point is 00:21:46 What is a content creator? Just like Instagram and all that shit. Like TikTok. But when did you start doing that, Charlie? So I did that at uni. Yeah. Because basically COVID hit. So I was doing media at uni anyway.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah. And COVID hit, so I was doing loads of workshops at the BBC over Zoom, ITV and all that. What kind of workshops? Like how to pitch to commissioners, how to do this, how to do that. If you had made your own TV show, how would you bring it to them? Yeah. And they basically said, like, you know, if we were looking for talent to host this program, we'd rather them have a following.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. To give the show an extra. Yeah. You know, if you've got 50,000 followers, great. We've got 50,000 followers of an audience to bring already before we've even started. And I thought, I think it subconsciously stuck with me a little bit and I thought, okay. Better make my own following. Yeah. Because I started, so I left uni and then I went into working into like TV. So you got into content making, which now is kind of, you know, there was the reason I know of you,
Starting point is 00:22:48 your content's fantastic. Is the end goal to do more telly or do you feel almost like you have your own version of your television within TikTok and Instagram? Well, I don't know, because this is what I mean. I feel like you speak to people who were like solely on telly and then they wanna get more into doing content creation, doing vids online, do this is what I mean. I feel like you speak to people who were like solely on telly and then they want To get more into yeah doing content creation doing vids online. Do you know what I mean trying to get out there more? But then everyone where I'm coming from is trying to get onto telly so I feel like it's turning into this weird half-and-half
Starting point is 00:23:18 kind of world and I think like Channels are they've got less money to play around with. So it's, I think that's making it even harder to then, there's less of kind of, oh, you know, we're thinking about doing this like little kooky, crazy, funny segment, get you it. Like they've just not got the time, they've not got the budget for that.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So what was the first one that took off? Can you remember? I think maybe me just going on it, cause I've got rosacea on me nose. So I think it was like the height of COVID being like people say I've looked like I've been drinking red wine. No I haven't. And I think like people's attention spans back then were a lot better.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And I think a lot more was like funnier because it was like what's this new app? So everyone was like that's funny. And it just I feel like it like snowballed a bit but it was quite like it was quite sporadic in how it would grow. So then I was working, working in Telly, I did my week on Naked Attraction and then I'd flitter between being like a COVID runner, who everyone fucking hates.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So you were shoving things up people's noses? Shoving things up people's noses, going, can you put your mask on? And then I'd be a production runner, so I'd do half and half. And then finally I was doing some presenting, but I had to lie and be like I've got the doctors And I'd be on the streets of Manchester doing Vox pops with like spec savers. Sorry guys. I'm not well
Starting point is 00:24:31 And then yeah, just I think I had like I finished my last tele job in November and then I was out I'll take the rest of the year off. See how this guy was this 2022 and then I knew basically been contenting for two and a half years. Yeah. I think I just kept saying like, I want to be a presenter. But wouldn't you like your own show? Oh, I'd love it. Yeah. I'd love it, but I think I do... I don't know, because you have times where you're like reflecting your look back, don't you? And you think, oh, I want to do this, I want to do that. And I think, I'm 24. You're a baby. Wow, you're a baby! Stop it. No, but I do think like it's not, there are some things where I think like, oh, I'd love
Starting point is 00:25:09 to present this morning and I think you're not gonna get, a 24 year old is not gonna present. You may think, and you are baby face, but you have a wisdom about you that doesn't seem like a 24 year old. I've got the aura of a 50 year old. Wow. I think you could get this morning babe. Who are your favourite female comedians? Don't French. Yeah. Love Victoria Wood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Diane Morgan. Love her. I'm trying to think like yeah French and Saunders like that kind of vibe. But who's the one that did that? You must have been really young when French and Saunders came out like almost not born Yeah, but when we were lived when we lived in Cyprus in Germany, like we didn't have sky There was like three channels. So I was watching like the 18 Like Vicra did believe faulty towers There was nothing on like I remember the people who were minted enough to have sky They were two weeks ahead of us on Cory So we do because it was all we had,
Starting point is 00:26:06 so we were like, I was eight years old going up to people going like, what happens to Kevin, what happens to Kevin, and suddenly, like, are they still together? Because we just like, didn't have it. Being a funny person and having to kind of survive in this traveling around, were there tough times, and also being queer as well, and being,
Starting point is 00:26:24 when did you come out, did you come out to your parents? Yeah, only in like 2019. Okay. But yeah, that was quite, I think they'd seen, I think they suspected it. I think they'd seen, I kept handing my mum my phone and there was a picture of me and my then-girlfriend on the screen.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. She was like, who's that? And I was like, who's my girlfriend? And then it was fine after that. But yeah, we don't really talk too much about feelings. Okay. We're not like, we couldn't do this. Got it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 No. You couldn't. No. But then like, I would say that we are very close and that we, do you know what I mean? But I think. So when you've got a problem, who do you ring up? Oh, I don't know, me girlfriend. I speak to my mum and dad about it. Yeah, probably my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:27:09 How did you meet your girlfriend? Oh yeah, so she messaged me on Instagram saying, people say I look like Jane McDonald and then I clicked straight on it. She knew what she was doing then, didn't she? Yeah, and I was like, hello! That was a great chat up by McDonald. I finally met her. I finally got to sit down and have an interview with her. How was it? Oh, it that time. I finally met her. Okay. I finally got to sit down and have an interview with her.
Starting point is 00:27:27 How was it? It was so good. It was unreal. Is she nice? It was unreal. Warm. Yeah. But I was meant to do, when I did the soap award she was hoasted at it.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I was meant to get a bit of time with her and then they were like, oh she's running late. I was like, no. But she was so good. Did she, did you have some picky tea with her? Picky tea. Is that what she loves? She loves a picky tea. Loves a picky tea.
Starting point is 00:27:49 No, we had it in a posh hotel, I think, in Mayfair. So they had like a few cakes and a few Bickies, but I didn't dare eat. Is she, well, that's a bit picky. Yeah, it's a bit picky. Look a bit fancy. Are you ready for some pud? Oh my God, yes, please.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Before I pass out, because this is literally bleeding through. Jessie, this is not right. You're bleeding out. I'm really, I'm really, oh thank you. Maybe we need to make you a cup of tea, like you're a blood donor. So you made this as well?
Starting point is 00:28:17 I did. Freaking hell do you. Don't give her that bit, because it's got a bit of like liquid on it. That's all right. Wow. It's a bit condensation. My God. I made this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Thank you so much, bloody hell. I've never made it before, so. Just so you haven't even got a spatula here, don't know where I'm up for that. So last supper, Charlie Marlowe. Oh yeah. Starter, main, pud. Drink of choice. Oh, I've not thought about it.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Starter. Oh, I do like a burrata. Yeah. Little burrata, maybe a... Oh, what are those little things? Drink of choice. I've not thought about it. Starter. I do like a burrata. Yeah. Little burrata, maybe a... Ooh, what are those lovely Italian things when they fry the veg?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Arancini. Ooh, maybe a bit of arancini. Frittata misto. Yeah, when they fry the veg. Okay, yeah. Yeah, maybe a bit of that. What, tempura veg? If you want extra cream, maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yes. Ooh, thank you. And then for me, main, probably a leg of lamb. I love lamb. Love it. And then for me main, probably a leg of lamb. I love lamb. Love it. And then, really delicious, Jess. Maybe a sticky toffee pud. God, that was nice and simple, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:29:13 That was very- And what you drinking? Bish bash bosh. Do you like cocktails? I love a cocktail. Go on, what's yours? Aperol spritz. But I do love a Mojito.
Starting point is 00:29:25 This is bloody lovely. Thank you. Delicious. Greg, who is my lovely friend, who has this great deli in Nunhead called Mother Superior. Nice one, Greg. Yeah, nice one, Greg. And he gave me his recipe and he's been refining it, so he uses a Felicity Clo... No, I think I called him Felicity Cloak.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I was like, all right, mate, so he's taken two different recipes but he said I needed to get a silicone mould and I said I can't get that on delivery mate, so unfortunately. I think it's time to get that silicone mould. That's lovely. I wouldn't get a silicone mould because you wouldn't be able to get it out. You thought hold on a minute. When I said. When you went past cheesecake I thought I don't like cheesecake, I thought, I don't like cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Oh mate! I don't like cheesecake either actually, but I like this. Yeah, no, it's really nice. You're very good at hiding it. Fucking you and the animal. Cheesecake! She's also so honest. If I'm at someone else's house, I'll eat it.
Starting point is 00:30:20 What would we find in your fridge? You would find 15 bottles of Prosecco. You would find... You like Prosecco. You would find... You like a cheeky Prosecco? I love a Prosecco. Which brand? You know what, I'm quite easy-learned. I like the Sainsbury's and I like the Marksies one.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Do you? Yeah, treat myself the 12 quid one. Just going all out there. Do you prefer it to champagne? Yeah, I think, you know what, if you get a nice enough Prosecco, it tastes near the same. I like Prosecco, but I don't like it in the same way as I like champagne. But I feel you can drink it without guilt. Yeah, it goes down very easily. So we've got Prosecco, 15 bottles of Prosecco.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah, Prosecco, bottle of milk. Oh, God. Red pepper that's gone off, some eggs. What do you put your milk in you don't like tea? My coffee. You love a coffee. How do you take your coffee? Dead grown up at the minute, just a nice latte. You make it at home?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah, and I feel honestly I don't ever get that feeling but it makes me feel better than everyone else knowing I don't have to put anything in it. Do you have a stirrer, like on TikTok, when they do their like college and iced latte in the morning, get ready for me? Maybe that's the next step, Charlie. No, maybe I've moved it up a bit. That's probably it.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I think because I'm here, there and everywhere, I don't. Not really any food. No. Jessie's just made, nearly taken a finger off with a mandolin. I really am feeling it with my fingers. It will not be her most treasured kitchen instrument which do you have in your kitchen you can't live without a piece
Starting point is 00:31:49 of equipment? A bottle of open air. Oh my cheese grater. No a cheese grater. Is that to go on your baked potatoes with your beans? Yeah. Okay. That's one thing, I think like, you know, those like money saving tips that never leave you. It's like never buy pre-grated cheese. Why? Because it's always got that, it's expensive
Starting point is 00:32:14 and it's always got that horrible plastic-y film on it. Yes, happy. It's like minging, yeah. Always grated cheese. Okay. And what is your comfort food? Ooh, maybe my mum's spag bol. Okay, and what is your comfort food? Ooh Maybe my mom's spag bol. No, maybe no, my mom's steak steak pie steak pie loads of gravy on
Starting point is 00:32:32 Roast potatoes. Can I ask you a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere? Oh It was a when we lived in Cyprus used to be this like berry drink called energy five And I don't know if they still do it, but I remember drinking that, and it would always make me think of like when I was little. Was that something that you'd like, think is kind of good for you? Yeah, and then it turns out,
Starting point is 00:32:55 there's like 20 grams of sugar per glass. Yeah, I think they do it in Greece too, like those fruit juice drinks. And that reminds you of being in Cyprus. Yeah. Was it a happy time in Cyprus? Yeah, it was lovely. Have you been back since you've been a grown up? I went a happy time in Cyprus? Yeah, it was lovely. Have you been back since you've been a grown up?
Starting point is 00:33:07 I went when I was 30. Oh, you know I did, I went a couple of years ago but to Pathos. But we didn't live there. I think, you know what, I found that it was very sheltered because you couldn't get a house unless you were a squaddy or unless you were married. So then when we moved back to the UK, I had a big culture shock because loads of kids at school their mum and dad were divorced and they were like oh I love it because my mommy and daddy I get two sets of presents and I was like 11 year old like you're in a fucking broken home I was like what's going on and like I couldn't I couldn't believe it and obviously now like me I
Starting point is 00:33:44 am obviously accepting of people who come, went like, the mums and dads are divorced or whatever, the parents situation, but yeah I couldn't believe it. I felt like I'd come back to the UK and I was on Mars. It felt so rogue. Do you ever do karaoke? I do occasionally. Which song would it be? Midnight Train to Georgia by Gladys and the Peaks. Oh I can imagine you absolutely smacking that. I'd love that yeah. That's a bit of me.
Starting point is 00:34:08 With that wheeze. Yeah with the... But the good thing is that the wheeze doesn't go either. It's much better than my euclid vote. This wheeze is permanent. Don't I... You have real clarity in your voice considering you've got such a deep wheeze. Do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Charlie Marlowe thank you for coming down to London for being just gorgeous. Didn't I tell you you'd love her? Absolutely gorgeous. Thank you. You're going to get your own TikTok account now and no, I'm not. No, I'm not. She can do consultancy for you. It's fine. Yeah, good. You're brilliant. I can't wait to see you on more and more and more more screens. Do you worry about what you're wearing when you're doing TikTok? Do
Starting point is 00:34:44 you think, well, I need to put my makeup on? Oh yeah no do a shite no. You don't? Love it no yeah. Honestly I look worse. It's the worst I've ever looked on that app and I just think who's that? Because that's my new pet peeve at the minute you know people go oh I'm sorry for how I look guys. No no stop saying that yeah. But you're so pretty and gorgeous. No, you are. Stop being mean. A sweet, gorgeous little face.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Thank you. And the best smile. Yeah. With the composite bonding buttons. Composite bonding buttons? Three more weeks. You haven't got them. Yeah, three more weeks and they're off.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You can't even see them. See them walking aside. How many have you got? I've got these two big freaking deltas there. And then I've got some little ones on the teeth. Is it a Manchester dentist? Yeah. Fuck my teeth up.
Starting point is 00:35:34 When I was growing up, yeah. Don't tell her that! I told you you'd love her. She's gorgeous. She's warm and lovely and cuddly and just gorgeous. And funny and brilliant and I love that she came down from Manchester to do this and a Delicious rosé and also ate cheesecake when she really didn't want to so thank you Charlie Marlowe. We love you Yeah, I'm going to get off day and E now are you yeah, maybe you should go for a lie down Legs raised why I don't know when you feel a bit faint. I thought you watched every medical drama. Well that's what you do to get the blood back into your thing. I'll ask your brother, shall I text him?
Starting point is 00:36:30 He'll just say how the paracetamol. I know he does. We'll see you next week, thanks very, very much for listening and thanks to Charlie Marlowe. And I'm going to be back. Some things just take too long. A meeting that could have been an email, someone explaining crypto, or switching mobile providers. Accept with Fizz. Switching to Fizz is quick and easy. Mobile plans start at $17 a month. Certain conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca.

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