Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Claire Foy

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

We’re in the presence of royalty this week, it’s award winning actress (and phenomenal Queen Elizabeth II) Claire Foy! Mum really pulled out all the stops to make the most regal of afternoon teas for our star of 'The Crown' - homemade madeleines, mini trifles and even coronation chicken sandwiches. Claire is fresh from making her latest film 'H is for Hawk' and we heard all about the training process she went through to become a Goshawk handler. We also discover Claire is a sucker for a dessert, would love to star in Six The Musical, is always surprised when actors want to work with her, loves a Cosmo, she suffered for years with stomach parasites, loved working with Brendan Gleeson, and we discover her dream meal is her mums special home made spag bol, which has been recreated by her all over the world perfectly! Claire’s new film 'H is for Hawk’ is out in cinemas now, and it’s beautiful. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Tablemanners. I'm Jessie Ware and I am in Clapham with Lenny. Yep. You're in a bit of pain today. My period, what are it is? You are. I don't know. It's some sort of spasm in my bottom. So beware. Okay. Sorry about that. Yeah. We're doing tea today. Afternoon tea. Fit for a Queen. I hope so. We have Claire Foye coming over who is just like an incredible actress.

Wow. She's so... One of the greats. Yeah. Queen Elizabeth, obviously, in the Crown. Perfect. She played such an interesting bit. It was a really good. I think, yeah. Where she falls in love with Prince of Elizabeth and she's so beautiful.

She played Andrew Scott's mother in All of Us Strangers, which was heartbreaking. And she was amazing. Amazing. I mean, she's been in so many things. Yeah. But most recently, she is in H's for Hawke, which is an adaptive memoir, which is about grief, really. and this woman, an academic, who gets a gozhawk. If somebody said they had a gozhawk,

I wouldn't know what they were talking about. Now I would. But when he came out, when they had the little helmet on, I thought that's how their heads were. I didn't realize she had a helmet on. The helmet's quite fat. Yeah, it's strange, isn't it? But it's to cover their eyes.

Anyway, I now know loads about hawks, and I'm quite amazed that Claire Foy's co-star was a hawk, and she acted well with Mabel. She was bloody good with the hawk as well. Amazing. Yeah. So because Claire was coming in the afternoon, I'm sure she's been doing press all day.

Yeah. It's a funny time for food. Tis. So you've decided to do an afternoon tea. I've done an afternoon tea fit for a queen. So I've done little mini kishes. I've done coronation chicken sandwiches. Do you think she's so sick of everyone being like coronation chicken?

Well, she doesn't have to eat them. Okay. I've also done mini trifles because everyone loves a trifles. and I've made Madeleines, which are nothing to do with the Queen at all. What about Lily Ellen? Oh, well, I didn't think about her when I was making Madelins, darling. So I've made Madelins because my fabulous chiro practice said he makes them all the time. Yeah, as he was concentrating on my bottom, said he makes them all the time and he's mad about them and they're so delicious.

So I thought, I'll have a go at doing those and they come in a nice shape. Did you have Madeline? No, I bought the Madeline. moulds. Okay. Amazing. Well, we'll be having Madelins for... A lot of Madelins will be having.

Lovely. And then from what I heard, the Queen Mother and the Queen used to share this with her. They used to have, the late afternoon, after Tia, I should imagine, a Dubonet and Gin. What is Dubonet? Dubonet is a vermouth. It's a red vermouth. So it's a bit like a gruny? It's a bit like a martini because it's a vermuth, isn't it?

Oh, yeah. Amazing. Anyway, we're going to see if she fancies one of those. But I've also got on ice, in the fridge, some cosmos. Because like myself, she's a cosmo. How did you find that out in the research? No, no. I'm properly reading about what she likes. So, yeah, we're really excited to have Claire Foy coming on table manners and having afternoon to you with us. Claire Foy, coming up. Claire Foy, welcome.

Thank you. It's a pleasure to meet you. And you. Mum has something to say. What do you have to say? But I wanted to know whether he wanted a cup of tea. I'm right. Yeah.

Or a cosmo. Because I know you like a cosno, darling. Oh my God. It's been a really long time. I can't get hammered. I have to go on television. If we fill your tummy, then you can have a cosmo. I don't know.

I don't really drink anymore. Oh, okay. No, no, but I, but not, I don't drink as I used to. Oh. Which for me is like, I'm really disappointed. Well, then the worry is that I'll just get smashed and then let it all come out. hardly drinks at all. unlike her mother.

Well, maybe I can just nurse it. So hold on a set. The other thing on offer. Oh, right. Obviously a cup of tea. Yeah. Have one of them. I was very excited because I read that the queen's mother and the queen used to partake of a kind of late afternoon, a Dubonnet and gin.

Did you do that on the crowd? No. See, I heard she wasn't much of it. I definitely. I think they work on the sauce. Yeah. But I don't. The Queen was not much of a drinker.

I think she used to share it with her mum. They probably watched Countdown together and drank Chiebony and Jim. So I did get Chipponet and gin. Did you really? Is that the blue, spare a bottle? No, it's the red bottle. Oh, I always thought it was. So it's a red one. Maybe we'll just like, so we can have an opinion on it.

I'll have a sip of it. But Claire did wretch when you said that. No. It's not, not my friend. Okay. So you could just have a cup of tea if you want, babe. I did bring my own tea bag. Oh, my God.

Not going to buy it. Did Noel Gallagher bring us in any tea bags? No, no, no. I don't have caffeine anymore either, so I have TikTok teapagbag. Oh, you better give me one of those. Okay, I'm not going to push a cocktail on you if you're a Roy Bush gal. No, I think she better not. I think maybe we don't want to know whether this one.

We'll give her a can to take home. Can I have it and I can just sit there and you won't be mortally offended if I don't drink the whole thing? I'll finish it after. Okay, great. Perfect. Let's share a cocktail. When did you stop drinking caffeine? Um, or quite a few years ago.

I had parasites, gross. Shouldn't breathe. No, I love this. Did you do this from like a blood test or like a stool test? Yeah, and the gross stuff. Because you were having issues with your tummy? I kept losing weight and I didn't know what was going on. Oh, mate, I don't want to keep that fucking parasite.

But also like, no matter how, I was just like, I'm eating everything. I was so hungry. Where do you think you got it from? Morocco. Yeah. And that I'd had it quite a long... How many years did you have it? At least five years.

Yeah. And they'd travel as a pair I got told by the doctor. Gross. Absolutely rank. It's disgusting. Anyway, so that's why I gave up caffeine because I had to give up... I basically had to go on this diet

and take all these, like, non-like... Because I didn't want to take, like, really hardcore antibiotics and stuff like that fit. So I took all these little gross stuff. And part of that was giving up caffeine and I was like, once you've given it up, it's such a mission to give it up. But I was like, well, maybe I'll just give it a go of not.

Yeah, the headaches are so bad. Yeah, we'll give it up, aren't though? Yeah, I mean, and I was a real kind of like, I drank at least 15 cups of tea a day. And then, like, I had my two coffees that I had staged. Thank you. Oh, gold. Very pleasing.

Okay. Just think of them there together. Yeah, I know. It's like a little energy else. What's it? I feel like the Queen Mother and you can be. Yeah. Well, yeah.

It smells like a shit mix. Do you remember when you do that when you were younger, you just pour anything in. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Is it? Shabbat shalom.

Cheers. Right. Cheers. Cheers. Right. Hey, cheers. Wow, darling. Oh, I'm really happy with my choice.

Okay. That is like what me and Zoe Pills you used to make when we were like trying to sneak things out of the drinks cabinet. Well, it's what the queen made, darling. Wow. Wow. Woo! the rest of that de Bonnet drinking.

You'll get through it, don't worry. It's fine. No, it's quite bitter. So, congratulations on the film. Wow. Thank you. How's it feeling? I mean, I've had some time to get used to it now.

When at first, when we did, when at first, people started first watching, I felt very, very, very strange about it. Is that how you feel every time that you, really? And I've always been slightly other actors who go, I've really struggled to let go of things. I always was a bit like, I don't, like, I'm fine. Like, when I finish a job, I'm sort of quite, I'm always just quite sort of glad that it's over.

But, and I was glad this one was over, but I, I just, it felt really, really, like, close. It felt a bit, I was, you know, a bit raw and it was very intense to make, amazing to make. But, yeah, it felt like a bit of a strange thing for people to watch. It was sort of like people having cameras in my house. It felt like, a bit. It felt very intimate.

Yeah. say because it's such a study of someone's grief and sadness and depression really. Yeah. And I don't really feel like it was quite a lonely thing to make because I'm sure it was just me and some hawk. Yeah, some hawks. Does the hawk, where is Mabel now? There were five of them. So she's all like she's scattered across the country.

That must have been really hard because the whole premise of the relationship with the hawk is that you have to get to know each other. the hawk has to trust you. You had to do these whole kind of, obviously these were like pro hawks that are like acting hawks, whatever. I don't know. No.

Well, I mean, they are kept, so Rose and Lloyd Buck, who are the sort of trainers, but sort of basically the hawk gurus, they have many birds, two of them are eagles, they've got swans, and they have only ever really shot, like David Attenborough in natural history before. They don't do like drama,

like long form kind of film like this. they would have like a, you know, like a raven that would be in something. And so they've got all these incredible birds. But the gozhawks are notoriously, like, really difficult to train. And just like, no, I'm not filming today. Sorry. Like the biggest diva on set with the gozhawk. Yeah, I suppose diva, but, you know, wore it very, very loosely.

Like, not like, not demanding, just very in their own. They're just like, no. And their whole, the whole issue is that they don't connect. They don't show affection. They're not responsive. I suppose not in like a conventional dog, or, you know, pet way. Do you think any book?

I suppose budgies do. Or budgies parrots, yeah. They do connect. But the whole thing about the hawk was the lack of connection and you need to connect because of its, because of the connection with your dad. Yeah, I think so. And Helen speaks about in the memoir about that wanting to be more like Mabel,

like wanting to sort of... Mabel's the hawk. the hawk, sorry. Yeah, Mabel's the Gozhawk. And wanting to kind of, because the pain of losing someone is so overwhelming and massive, like massive, that they wanted to kind of be like this bird of prey that seemed to have no, you know, didn't feel these emotions and was able to kind of like absent themselves and be disconnected and that that was easier than being a human being, which it is.

But that didn't really work because Helen fell in love with Mabel and Mabel fell in love with Helen. It's really tender and it's quiet film and it's grand in many ways with the landscapes and that amazing shot of Mabel catching the rabbit. Yeah. Like all of it and the ideas are big. It's actually a lot of the shots are you sitting with Mabel in, well, Helen sitting with Mabel in the flat and the house and it's quiet. It's very quiet. And I wonder how working with a hawk, which isn't an actor.

How challenging that was for you, was it the weirdest form of improvisation ever? Yeah, well, I suppose it's like a really distilled version of improvisation. I suppose it doesn't really change, does it? I mean, acting is about, I mean, for me anyway, is always about that other actor. Like, basically, whatever they're doing, I'm interested in what they're doing and watching and listening what they're doing. And therefore, that helps me not think, be self-conscious, basically. And it's, you're always invested in what the other person is trying to do.

and you're trying to find out why they're trying to do what they're doing and all that sort of stuff. So it wasn't really any different for me, for my approach to acting. It didn't feel any different. It just felt really, really like it was on speed because you were with a wild, wild creature. And whilst also having to be open to the idea

of where the hell the scene was going to go, also know as the only actor in the room that I had to make it go somewhere for me and also for Mabel, like I had to make sure that she wasn't doing something that would be inappropriate, you know, you know what I mean, I had to be in control of myself and the bird as well at the same time, which was, was bizarre because not me, you can be, you know, you can be surprised by the other actor, but you both know that you're

trying to get to the same goal. Yeah. A lot of the time, Mabel was like, I'm, no, I'm not, I'm not going where you're going. So was it quite a lot of free shoots or, no, no, no. So we actually did less takes. We just did longer, we just did longer take. So the first, kind of like, there's a scene in it, one of the first manning scene where I sort of take off Mabel's hood. Yeah. We just did that and one take and it's one long kind of sequence of events from when I take her hood off and all that reaction is reacting to me.

Were you frightened? No, I was never frightened. I mean, it was frightened before we started shooting because I don't know what to do. And I knew I had to build up such a level of skill in such a short space of time to make the film even possible. You weren't frightened she was going to attack you? No, because they didn't want to attack you. They're like...

I know. Well, that's very specific. something that happened, which was that Mabel was like, don't take that that. As in like, give it back. Which is sort of like, I think, and I suppose maybe it's just because I see it from Helen's perspective, that I find that to be quite an understandable thing. That's my mistake as the human being as the falconer who went, let me take that. And you know you're never supposed to do that.

You have to offer them something to be able to get the food. Is there someone in this country that makes helmets for goshawks? well they're really fast they really are right they've got a couple like Halloween is gonna be I am a godthock but there's something there's something yeah there are there's like oh websites lovely things you can get they like slightly S&M as well

yeah it's all yeah quite sort of dominatrix yeah sex dungeony kind of vibe yeah there's something there's something great about it well there is isn't there anyway about the whole it's very medieval the whole process yeah too but yeah they still you know roaring trade and someone who sells all the chicks that they eat. Yeah, that was a chick.

I thought it was like a cuddly toy. No, it was a fucking chick. Well, it was awful when you had to give the lecture and then they attack you for allowing films to be killed. I know. But it's sort of, it's like you have to let that concept in. You couldn't really make the film without acknowledging that that is an animal rights issue.

You're kind of a voyeur to some, yeah. Like you've got to have that conversation. And Helen's never afraid to have that conversation. And I think a lot of falconers aren't. afraid to have that chat and be like, yeah, interesting, okay, how so? But obviously at that point in the film, I'm not really able to have a kind of logical conversation, really. I presume the book got options straight away for a film, no doubt.

Yeah. So has it been quite a long time in the making of making this film? Have you been involved for a while? Not really. I think other people got the option, like I think it was like in the like nitty gritty of the business of it. I think someone got the option when it came out maybe and then what ends up happening I think is that people hold on to them and it never happens.

Right, blah, blah, blah, blah. But Dedy Gardner, who produced the film, she came to me with it when we done a film together called Women Talking. Which was incredible. Oh, thanks. I like that one. It was unbelievable. Yeah, I think it's a brilliant film.

And like, you know, oh, yeah. The cast and every. I know. You actually got to act apart like with, you know, humans in that one. Yes, I did. Well, no, hon. Donny's got also. Shout out to you.

Fantastic. Amazing. Brilliant. And also, Brenda, like, I mean, it's an amazing cast in Hs for Hawley. It is. Which is always surprising. Whenever, like, I'm, when I'm, I'm the first person attached, I'm just always pretty, everyone's going to be like, no, no. Like, I just, I'm so surprised. No. Like, I just, I just presume. You're like, you're like, she's a queen, Jessie. Yeah. No, but I just presume, you know, it's like that thing about who wants to go to their own party, like, you know, like, you're a party that you're invited to. No one wants. to go to it. She's like, where am I invited? But I sort of feel like that. And so when Brendan said he would do it, I was like, oh my God, why? And then Denise, I just was, and then Lindsay Duncan,

I was just a bit like, surprised, basically. Are they all your best friends now? Not my best friend. France. France are my best friends. Yeah, well, we have a connection. I just like blurted at you whilst, as you were taking your shoes off. A childhood friend who I grew up, roaming these club and streets. Francis Macy O'Neill, you went to uni with. I did, yeah. And we knew of you. And I think actually, Fran was very much,

I remember when you'd promise, which was one of your kind of thing. Yeah, fabulous. And I think we were all talking about it being proud. We were real proud of you because you're a family's fair. Oh, thrilled. Oh, well, no, because Fran was the first person that I met on the first day of university.

We lived in the same, like, weird sort of house. and she was the first person I met and I felt madly in love with her and then that was it, yeah, for three whole years. You did some food on the table. Okay, cool. So what did you have for breakfast today? Oh God.

Actually, today was a random. I fried an egg and I put it on some toast and I ate it. Why is that random? I don't normally do that. So normally I would have like, so I planned on doing exercise this morning and I attempted to and I drove and I drove and and then I drove past where I'm supposed to do the exercise.

What were you supposed to be doing? You know, strength training, Pilates. So you had a date with a person trainer? No, no, no. Class. Oh, well, class. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

But I just, I sort of kept driving. After I dropped my daughter at school, he didn't fancy it. I just was very tired. I did a lot of yak and a yak and a yesterday, and I just was like, I think I just need to sit in the house on my home. And did you have a nice morning then? It was a nice morning.

I had a bar. I had my egg on toast. I love having a naughty bar. from the day when it feels like it's not supposed to be. And the boiler's not supposed to be on, but it is. Oh, I love that for you. Did you watch anything in the tub? No, what did I do?

Well, I washed my hair, you see, so that takes a lot of effort. Okay. I was something great, but. Thank you what I mean. I didn't do it myself. Because it would not if I did. It was really squeaky, squeak, really. Really, squeak, really clean.

But yeah, normally I would do, so if I was doing exercise, I'd do like a protein sort of smoothie situation. Do you actually enjoy them? Or is it more... I do enjoy the one that I make. I mean, oh God. Avocado. Mm-hmm.

A pear. Random. I don't do. So this is my big secret. Okay. I feel like I'm in the traitors or something and I'm letting everyone know that I'm related to someone.

So I don't actually eat glution or sugar. But listen to me. No, but listen to me. Except when I go out for dinner. Oh, okay. Okay. So this is a really... Don't worry, everybody.

Okay, fine. So you're just kind of quite strict when you're not. I'm very strict, but I love falling off the wagon when I'm out. for dinner. Are you going to come up in a rash on the one show? No, no, no, I'm not allergic. Okay, fine. Oh, my God.

And that's so much fucking sugar in everything. In everything. That's amazing. Oh, my God, they look great. You're really about to fall off the before. Shut up. Are you so excited of like the Queen's stuff? No, I mean, well, I wouldn't associate this with her, really.

But we did. Oh, we're not. Very good. Very good. Very good. Is that a trifle? Yeah. Yeah. I just thought you might fancy it. My granddad loved a trifle. I mean, aren't they just? Yeah. The custard, the cream. I know, everything. So you were talking about your smoothie? Yes. Before we brought all the gluten and the sugar onto the... Yeah. On to the stage. Yeah. And you just told us you don't eat gluten and sugar. Yeah. But you seem okay about it. I'm thrilled, yeah. Okay. Because I don't. The majority of the majority of the... Yeah. And you just told us, the majority of the majority of the... I don't. I don't. The majority of of my, except Christmas, that's sort of non-negotiable.

And like, you know. And podcasts. And podcasts. Yeah. Especially this podcast. Yeah. Or like if you go to a really nice restaurant and they have the bread. Yeah.

You're going to do that. Like Jay Shikis or something. Then I eat that bread a lot. Okay. But then it doesn't, it doesn't have an impact on me. It's just because I have an autoimmune condition. So I should avoid anything which causes more information. Okay.

Well, eat up. Right. So there's little asparagus. Kiche and they're just ones with like... Have you made these, Mum? They look really cute. Do they? Thanks, Mum. I'm going in.

Jess, you've got bacon. That's got bacon in. So let's like talk about family. You just mentioned your grandfather. Love to trifle. Love a trifle. Who was around your dinner table when you were growing up and what was a very memorable dish? So around the dinner table would be me, my brother, my sister and my mum.

And my mum was looking after three children on her own. and is a very, very good cook. And she would, her spag ball is legendary. Why is it so legendary? I've got no idea. And she can recreate it in any country. Because I've taken her with me many places now. Because she helps me look after my daughter when I'm working.

And she literally has made it in Berlin. She's made it in Atlanta. And it's always the same. It doesn't matter what tomato she's using. She puts flour in it. Oh. Mm. And she browns the mince separately to,

like putting the tomatoes in and stuff for a very long time, which I don't have the patience for. So I think that's probably it. But none of us can do it. None of us can get it right. So it will die with her. I've tried. And my daughter loves it.

It's just very, yeah, she's great. It's really great. I saw something on Instagram yesterday about how apparently if you have three children, you are the most stressed version of a mother. You may as well round up to four and you'll be less stressed. See? Apparently three is. How many did you have?

Three. How was it? It was fine. It was chaotic. Was it? Yeah. I'm receiving an hour. It was.

We were the party house. Anyway, so your mum's bag bowl, legendary. Yes. Still is. Do you like these, by the way? I love coronation chicken. Did you have to eat a lot when you were like promoting being Queen Elizabeth? No, I didn't eat in any?

Oh. Oh. What, little finger sandwiches? You look so glamorous as the Queen. I mean, I never. I thought of her as glamorous as you made her look wonderful. Wow. I certainly didn't feel glamorous.

But I think you glowed with the love she had for Philip. Yeah, I do. Wow. That beauty was, I'm not more than I knew. And Ambelin. You've done Ambelly. You've done all the queens. I went to see Six the musical at the weekend.

Oh, we went. Really fun. I've never seen it. She's seen it. She's about to be 11. Oh, okay. She loves it. Absolutely loves it.

It's what a great idea for a musical. It's really fun. We've got the soundtrack. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beheaded. Die.

I mean, in my dream life, I would be amblin in that musical. She was fab. She was fab. Can you sing? No, not all. Have you tried to learn for any roles? Well, I mean, I went to drama school for a whole year.

Yeah. And they tried really hard. And I just kept giving, get the singy, like the speak singing songs. Yeah. So I got whiskey bar by the doors. I think the Bertolt Breast. like the Oh, shall us.

Anyway, no, don't make me. You probably would be in Hamilton. What? Rapping. They're very good singers. You see. But they do. Some of it is kind of like

speaky, singy. It is but you actually really be in control of it. And I just, I'm not, I'm all over the show and it's a disaster. Well, the Kish is not. I'm going in for another one. I'm doing it.

It's, asparagus. Asparagus. Yeah. Delish. Coronation chicken is amazing. And that's not out of a packet. You have made that. No, I made it.

Wow. I poached the chicken last night. Gee. Yeah. And made the trifles. Yeah. Just, I always like people to know how hard it's, but no, I don't. I think you should.

When you've cooked for people, you make it happy. Just had that you were at a funeral as well. No, we went to a few yesterday in Manchester. So we, um, and we got back and I felt. No. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. Yeah.

It was a pleasure. And I watched your film as well. Oh, Jesus. It was like a big day. It was a big day of grief. Yeah, it was weird watching the film, having been to a funeral of someone that we were very fond of. Well, it was a cousin, but she was female. But it was kind of, it was, yeah, it was touching watching A.

H. for H. Hawke because of your grief, really. I mean, I find funerals, but, I mean, it's a silly thing to say. I find funerals very hard. I don't know. Why that's strange. I just, I find them, you know, because I've been to quite a. few of them and I've been to ones of people very close to me and then I've been to ones of, you know, when you're in a supportive role I suppose. Yeah. And I've just,

me and my sister are absolutely horrendous. We can't keep it together and I just find them. We were weakly, weren't we? No, but it's funny you say the thing that we can't keep it together. Me and my friend Frankie, we were like a friend's funeral in the summer and she said, oh good, you're going to cry as just as much as me, thank God. Because she, like, she was so aware that she was going to be a weeper. Yeah. And uncontrolled, do you know what I mean? Some people can be more stoic or brave or whatever.

I don't know. Good on. No, it like comes down. Yeah. And it's uncontrollable. And I think, yeah, and really hard to, like, when I did the eulogy and I've done a eulogy before and doing the eulogy at, you know, Brendan's funeral in the film was so, it was so real.

It was like, because the whole, you know, um, You know, all the guests, the congregation were all there. All the essays were there. And so it was just so, and I had to stand up. I was sitting in between my brother and my mum, Lindsay Duncan and Josh. And I was sitting there about to go up in that moment when you know you've got to stand. You're like, oh, God, it's happening. It's happening.

Heartbeats. Yeah, yeah. It was all that, yeah. The last thing I saw Brendan Lee some is with Banshees. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah. He's so good. He's really, it was really beautiful.

Your scenes together. It was so, they were glorious scenes together. I just, I already loved him. And he just wasn't to let down even remotely. He was even better than he could possibly imagine, which is nuts, really. These look like enormous mini trifles. They're not very mini, are they?

No, they're not, but I'm enjoying it all. I'm going to have another sandwich, Mom. I'm actually quite hungry, I've realised. All right, you know. If we were coming around to yours, oh God, yeah. What are you cooking for us? I mean, I dread it. What's your showstopper?

I don't have a showstopper. I find cooking for people who come around, I find very self-conscious. I mean, my best best mates, I'd make like a lasagna or a roast chicken or one year for New Year's. I made like a big massive pasta because one of my best friends is vegan so you can do multiple different things. But none of it's like, here's my thing, guys. None of it's a showstopper at all. and I would much rather like order sushi and go. There you go.

I've made no effort. Because then I wouldn't be judged. I get being judged about why. Can you order in? I cook at home. If I'm not like entertaining, I'm cooking. But I just don't like being judged by it. I don't know why.

Like, it's funny because you do a job that I guess kind of do kind of judge performances, don't know. Do you find that part of quite difficult or not? No. Okay, fine. Everyone's entitled to there, but like I'm not really bothered. And I think that I also have like this weird thing where once it's done, it's done. Like I don't, it's almost like it's not me anymore. I'm not really attached to it.

I don't kind of, yeah, it's bizarre. But cooking for some reason. Yeah, I would, yeah, with my family and my best mates, I wouldn't be. I'd just be like, here, I'm nurturing you, eat it. Yeah. But, yeah, if it was, you know, if I'm entertaining, I would be like, oh, good God. Do you entertain a lot, though? And just ordering, because, you know, like, that's so fine.

Is it? Yeah. I do. I'd like to do it more. I think that, given my job, I spend a lot of time with people all day, every day. Yeah. And so home is quite like, I'm like, oh, yeah, sacred. I've always got people around, but I suppose, yeah, I'm not much of a sort of, I don't know.

That's my New Year's solution is to do it at least once a month. I'm going to join you on the Cosmo and Mum, do you want one? No, thanks. Do you want that? No, thanks. I think I'm all right. Really?

Would you like a trifle? Now, I can have one or the other. You can have a Madeline or I think you want to have a time. I do. Go. Can I try both? What happens if I don't eat them? It doesn't matter.

Okay, I'm going in. Look at this. What a combo. That is a... Look at that. Is that good? Now, they call that something. On Bake Off, they call that mound or something.

I don't know. It's really important. And when people, when they did that on bake off, a lot of people didn't get the mound. So there you go. Wow, there you go. First time luck. Okay, I'm going to. These look great, though.

These are very light. Oh my God, they're delicious. They're just like little delicious sponges. And you can put raspberries in the middle. Can you? Once they did raspberries in the middle and then we can put lemon curd in the middle of it. Oh, why. So you're a baker?

I'm much more of baked than I am a... How did you keep the lemon curd in the middle? You just mush it in. Okay. Mm. You just don't care. It bubbles out. Do you like that?

Really, really great. Kids love them as well. They're just so... I always get the... What are they? The Bon Mammon ones. Oh yeah, and the little plastic. Yeah.

You want to try for? Yeah. I want it all, ma'am. Go on them. Your next role is with Richard E. Grant. Yes. Well, not next... Yes, I have done.

Magic Fireway Tree is my next one. Yes. And that's the Nienid Blighter. book. It sure is. Yeah. Where's that coming out? Is it a film? March the 20th. Is it your voice? So your actual person? My whole person, yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's not, it's not animated as such. Obviously, there's lots of CGI in it because they're making a magical tree. But I'm mum. I'm Polly in that. And then, yeah, I think it's now called Savage House. Yes. It was called something else and we shot it. And that is with Richard, yeah. Would you ever do, do you do producing? Do you produce anything? I mean, like most people probably did in

my industry. In lockdown, I, like, opened a production company and it's done nothing. And I'm actually, to speak to my accountant, I'm going to shut it down. No, don't. Don't. Well, no, because I just don't. I've been, like, involved in the early processes of things. And it's really, really interesting. And it's interesting to have your opinion kind of listened to, which obviously doesn't happen a lot as an actor. But it's not my vibe. I'm just not, I'm not, I'm not a hustler in that way. I'm not, I find that. I find that. I find, that I can sometimes be quite jaded about the industry in the sense that I really believe

that something should really be worth being made. And I think other people do it brilliantly and I just could never do it. I could never be Margot Robbie. That's just never going to, I just can't do that. I have no ability to do it. It's not in my remake. But didn't you do that at uni?

Cinematography. Yeah. No, I studied film, yeah. Okay. Yeah. But I was never going to be, I mean, my idea, I thought I wanted to be a cinematographer, but I had no photography experience.

So that was never going to happen. Okay. How much experience can you have when you're 18? You know what I mean? Well, you know, you can know about how to open an aperture and all those sorts of things. Okay, yeah, fair enough. And I didn't know that. But also I looked into applying and realized that this one particular course

excepted like six people and all of them had always been men. So it was like a different world then. And I just didn't necessarily have this. I suppose I didn't know anyone who did this. So I didn't know what the jobs were really in a way. I didn't know what the jobs were on a film set or a TV. I didn't really know how to get into it. So, yeah, uni was really interesting,

but it definitely wasn't a producing. Producing such a, like, specific skill. You have to really push that boulder up the hill, even if people tell you know all the time. Do you do, what was your last theatre? My last theatre. That you went to, she went to see? No, that she did.

That I did was, oh my God, is it probably lung, the lungs that I did in, that I did pre-lockdown 20 to 19. and then we did a version of it during lockdown. Would you do more theatre? I mean, yeah, that's the dream, really. I'm always, like, looking out for stuff. And I struggle.

I don't really want to do any sort of classical necessarily reincarnations of things. You know, I don't want to really do Midea or... Had it got a blah, yeah. I don't want to do my version of something just because it's quite like the cooking. I just, I feel like you're just opening yourself, I like to judgment, I suppose, in a way. But I love new writing. Because when I left drama school, new writing was the big, like, Royal Court and so much so much emphasis was on it and I feel like it sort of those some of those

writers have just gone to TV you know to make a living and I just yeah so I'd love to do some new writing that would be the dream um last supper mm-hmm starter main hood drink of choice okay so I'm going to have a pasta for starter okay oh which one your mum's bolognese well that would be big wouldn't it maybe I maybe I'll do my mum's bollabne's just a small portion I mean Really, I was going to go for just like a really classic, like tomato and basil. But I just think pasta, I love it. Yeah. I wonder, can you eat spelt pasta?

No. Oh, sure. But gluten-free pasta is really great. Yeah, is it got better? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, their one's great. It's like corn and rice and stuff. Okay. So it's great. But I wouldn't choose, you know, I tend to not choose to supplement. Do you know what I mean? like with other things I just don't have them.

Yeah, so it would be a pasta and there's no restrictions in my last meal because I'm going to die. Okay. So I'm going to eat old. You might not. You might be a breath.

Yeah. Okay. So pasta with some of the nice fancy bread that you get in restaurants with the really salty butter. Jay Shiki, I need to go to Jay Shikis because Brian Krantz. No, Brian Krantzum is talking about it.

You've never been. Never been. Oh, my God. Oh, let's go with Fran. She'd love it. And I have a delver salt. Okay. Yeah.

Really nice. Okay, so you're doing some nice bread. Yeah. A pasta. Yeah. And then Maine. Oh, this is a really hot, isn't it? No.

My last meal. Really? No. No. Okay. No. Okay. Is that yours?

I love Doversole, actually. And Brian Crampson reminded me how much I liked it. Now, I would have probably Christmas dinner because it's one of my favourite. Yeah, I think I'd have a roast dinner. Yeah. Which meat? So I tend to always have beef because I'd never make it at home. Yeah.

to maybe beef. Yorkshire? Yes. Lots of gravy. Can you make them? I can to vary. They always taste great. Yeah, but they...

Ugly as sin. And also I just think like varying degrees. I never get the fat hot enough. What are we having for a drink? I'm an entire bottle of red wine. Okay, which red wine are we doing? A really expensive one. Anything over 14%?

My agent told me is the way to go. Basically, anything over 13 is good. Or just good gauge. Quicker getting drunk. No. That Chateau-Ilan that I used to buy was 14. Geronelaun was like a sport-fied wine, darling. God, she said it's so strong.

It's 14%. I don't agree with a light-bodied red wine. I don't understand. Both of us have just got into Pinares. And I hate myself getting into it because I was like, Pina-N-Ras like for pussies, right? Yeah, nobody to see. It doesn't sound like it is, though. It's got a big name.

But are you more of a Barolo gal. Yeah, I'd say so. I like, I mean, who knew? But I like a, you know, New World wine. Which are you. I like Californian wine. Love it. Yeah.

So an entire bottle of red wine and a margarita. Spicy or not? Not fast. What is your pud? I find this very hard because I like anything sweet. You've talked about this before you. Even though you don't have sugar. You've been really good at like.

I know. Because now I've really trained myself. I'm like Bill Nye. Bill Naid. I loved his... We know. I mean, I want to be on his... What's that group?

About not eating sugar. Do you want me to get you in? I mean, I would, again, be intimidated. But... Why did you... Oh, he's... Alice produces... When I've eaten sugar, so I probably can't...

I probably can't be on group now. Yeah, you're a fair weather. I had an issue with it as a kid. Like, I would... I was absolutely, like, out of control. Did your mum not let you have sugar? No, she did. And in fact, my mum was a terrible one for by Marks and Spencer's cream cakes.

like Eclay's and like shoe buns. She's a real thing for sort of, you know, pastry items. And so no, it wasn't, that there wasn't lack of it. It just, I just fucking love the stuff and I could just, oh, on one, mom. But now, if I have too much, I feel nuts. You know, I don't know if this is allowed because I guess it's still sugar, but I, there was this thing on TikTok. Don't judge me.

What are you watching? I'm not immediately judging you. No, I'm not really. But you're going to try this. I know you're going to try it. Okay. Greek yogurt. Yeah.

Love Greek yogurt. Yeah. Lotus Viscop's. You know those biscuits? Oh, God. Shug them in. Also one of my granddad's absolute favorites. Let's talk about your granddad because you brought him off twice.

I want to know what he loves him. People used to buy him. They're like, you know, Costco like family pack massive things like you put in a shop. Is that the hair dresses? Yeah. You get on the side of your coffee. She loves them. Lotus.

And you get them in the hair dresses in a little. Anyway, so that would greet yogurt. Yes. So you put them in. Yeah. It's really satisfying. You just shove them in to your greet yogurt. Yeah.

Put it in the fridge. Apparently it tastes like cheesecake. Oh, I bet it does. And like kind of... Oh, cheesecake's great. But apparently everyone's going mad for it. So I've done the experiment. I'm going to try it later.

I'll let you know how it goes. While you're watching traitors. Yeah. Great. And it's a dream of a new recipe on TikTok. Yeah, sure. Working out what we're going to feed, you know, I don't know. Who will get on next week.

Anyway. So that sounds like a... Hold on. We didn't actually... No, we didn't get a pudding. It's because I can't decide. But I think it would be... You have a trio?

I love... I mean, yes, I'll have a trio. I love a classic pudding, so I love like a jam roly-poly with custard. When I was at school, when I was at secondary school, I used to use my lunch money to buy a sausage roll from the tuck shop at break time

and then just a pudding at lunchtime. I just used to eat just a pudding. So I'm not really... I don't care how awful it is. Like if it's like a school spun, like chocolate sponge with no flavouring with custard on top, I'm very happy.

So maybe a jam roly-poly or I love fritteroles with ice cream or cream or cream. Have you made your own fish rolls ever? No, I have not. I feel like you could. Yeah, I mean, I've done the pastry. They're very easy. Yeah. I've done the pastry.

I'd like you the filling. That would be satisfying. Yeah. But basically anything on any list of any love of creme brulee, I mean, I love them all. So maybe I could have one of those trolleys. that it's all the product for the brand is now. I used to love that. I would like that whole thing

and then I can just choose. Like in Jurassic Park at the end where they're eating jelly. Oh yes. Don't like jelly. Neither do I. There's no jelly in the triumphal. Lovely, lovely touch.

So if we weren't going to Jay Shikis, where else are you loving eating and, well, you've filmed everywhere. Is there a very memorable meal from your travels? There is a place in Seville and I can't remember it. its name, which is terrible. But it's got a fish on the sign.

And it's like you do, I hate tasting menus, absolutely hate them with a passion. Only ever, like, tasting menus I've done, I get very anxious and worried that I'm not going to eat and I don't, then I'm by, you know, course four, I'm full and then just feel terrible. And they're always really expensive. So I don't like tasting menus. But I went to this place in Seville and they have this tasting menu. It was all like kind of saviche and all these, this beautiful seafood and a different glass of wine. like a mini glass of wine with each course.

And that was incredible. I can't remember that over it. Because you were drunk. That's helpful. Yeah, it was so drunk. But it was really great. It was stainless steel inside. It was just really, really great.

But yeah, I've had so many. I just live, I plan my whole day by what I'm going to eat. I can't, yeah, I can't waste a meal. Do you know in the morning what you're going to eat in the evening? Not necessarily, no. Jessie knows what she's going to eat the day before. You're like my sister. My sister plans her shop.

I know what? It's not. I know, I over order, actually. That's the problem. Me and my husband are trying to work on. Because he's just like, you bring, I was like, yeah, well, we want a roast chicken. We've got a chicken soup. We've got options.

So what did you have for lunch? Well, I knew I was coming here. So you hadn't had lunch. Well, I had some cheese. Yeah, that's okay. Because I thought it was a happy medium. And a pear. And, yeah, let's talk about this smoothie with the pair.

You like a pear? Well, because I don't feel like it. I mean, it's a sweet fruit, but bananas have got to. too much sugar in them. Right. So normally in my everyday life, I don't eat bananas. I tend to avoid apples. I only have like berries basically because they're the least, they've got the least sugar in them. And pears, for some reason, I feel like are okay because they've got so many good benefits. They're good for your heart, you know. So I let pears through. Okay. Pairs could for your heart. They are. I didn't know. My mom says that. My mom says that about everything.

I mean, she also gave you like cream pies and what's the, Claire's and I know. I love your Your mom sounds great. I also supposed to reduce your blood pressure. I mean, anything that grows from a tree has got to be good for you. Antioxidant. Speaking about nature, just to bring it back to the film a bit, you know, it obviously is a kind of celebration and a respect for nature with the way that you watch the hawk kill and there's these beautiful scenes of landscape.

Like, did you find a newfound appreciation or were you kind of already a bit of a kind of fan of? Yeah, and the natural... I mean, it feels like you know a bit, so... Well, no, I mean, I already was... Like, so I grew up in Manchester until I was about seven and then I moved to Buckinghamshire, which is sort of countryside, but it's still sort of like commuter beltie, I suppose. But, so I went on lots of walks as a child and...

Did you enjoy them? I absolutely hated them. Well, they were always really long. Yeah. And, yeah, my mum had this book and they... I'd just be terrified because she'd take a page out of it. this sort of AA guide to walks and be like, what are we doing today? 11 miles.

Yeah, like cruel. Hated them, but now I love a walk. Does your daughter love a walk? No. I mean, she does. She's very, very, like she loves climbing a tree. She loves getting dirty. And she always loves it when she's on it and never wants to go home.

But it's getting around the house. I know, I know that one. It's pain the ass. So, yeah, I already had an appreciation, but not from the point of view. of birds of prey or anything like that. Where I grew up in Buckinghamshire, they reintroduced red kites.

So there was like a real period of time where red kites were quite a big deal, you know, in the Aylesbury Vale area. What are red kites? They're a bird and it's got a particular tail. So they introduce them, they're that got a huge child family, reintroducing them yet because they weren't native to here anymore.

They were extinct and so they brought them back and then they brought them back by they're basically taking over all wildlife. Like the parakeets. Oh, the parakeets are a nightmare. But they're apparently really are, nightmare. Yeah. They are in round here. Yeah. They're taking over. They're like

killing off different birds. We're never going to see a gozhawk in the sky in London, are we? Or anywhere else. Really? Really. Really. Not reclusive, but they're really, really private. They don't, you'd have to go, you're lucky to see one in the wild. And obviously numbers are dwindling as well. Are they

kind of ones that go in a pat like together? They're very solitary. So they're not going to say lightly hat through the other, the gozhawk. Yeah. Lovely hat. Where did you get it from? You're looking good.

I've never seen that colour before. There was that moment in the film where I thought that the hawk had made a friend. But no, he was going to kill the bird. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was like, oh, sweet. Take a flight. Oh, met her little mates. Let's have fun.

I mean, because I'm so, don't know anything about nature or birds. So I was like, that's cute. Well, no, because they, the females often kill the males. Wonderful fact. And but yeah, they sort of tend to mate And then they separate And then obviously they bring up the young But that doesn't happen very often

You know, it's very rare So they're very isolated birds What was the most taxing or testing day on set With, I don't know which bird was Oh my God I mean there were a lot Yeah Oh my God

That's a really hard question Because Walking through Cambridge Was that quite hard? hard or not? That was hard because of the humans, not because of the birds. Because there's just lots of, I'm sort of amazed in those situations that lots of people just don't notice. They don't notice that you're sitting there with a lot of great... Well, they're Cambridge. A bit like that. Do you think so? But weren't they extras?

No, they're ordinary people. We couldn't afford that many extras. No. Okay, I thought they were extras. No, no, no. And they, so people would take photographs of me with the bird and think that I was like a sort of, you know, well, Helen did walk around Cambridge. An eccentric. Mabel, yeah. Yeah. So I've never seen anyone walking the street. No, Maple is still alive?

When did she die? A couple of years after the film, except she got a fungal infection, which goes, you know, sometimes get. But Helen still has a jar of her feathers, of Mabel's feathers on her desk. Oh, sweet. I know.

Before we let you go, yes. Can you, I mean, it's Madeline's today, which is very prussian, a nostalgic taste that can take you back somewhere. Oh, God. I don't want to say school sponge because I don't really want to go back to school.

Really? Probably, this is quite gross but probably my nan and granddad's house and a fry-up black pudding frowned upon and a really crispy bacon and an egg and there was always more people than you thought would have stayed over

so you'd get two pieces put on your plate of bacon and then one would be taken away and you'd always be like you know you'd have to defend your plate But I think probably, yeah, a fry-up at my nan and granddad's house where the dog, Zuki would also get a fry up and cups of tea in his dog bowl. Yeah. Zuki. What kind of a dog?

Irish Red Seta. Absolutely mad. Mad dog. But yeah, that would probably be that. Cleverly, thank you so much for coming on. And good luck with the film. It's really beautiful. Oh, that's great.

And you're fantastic. You are fantastic in everything. I'm not. You are. You are, you're brilliant. It's always such a thrill and a pleasure to watch you on the screen because you are an absolute star. Thank you so much.

Honestly, I love watching you and everything that you do. See you next one. I'm friends, friend. No, no, I'm saying. I mean, it definitely helped me know who you were when you were in the promise. But I, honestly, you are phenomenal in everything that you do. Claire Foy. So fun and lovely. Just gorgeous, woman.

And, like, talented and self-effacing and just wonderful. Just fabulous, just like a normal human, not really royalty. Love to. Just lovely. She ate all the food. She did. Yeah. Even though she's got autoimmune disease.

She doesn't eat gluten or sugar, and the whole thing was gluten and sugar. It was high on gluten and sugar. But if someone had told me... Well, she did say. She was... We love someone that's willing to... Have a go. To flare their autoimmune disease up.

We appreciate that. Thank you, Claire Foy. H.S. for Hawk is out now. She is wonderful. Really wonderful. It's a really interesting film. And if you've read the book, that you should absolutely go and watch it.

But if you haven't, it's just seeing her with five Gozhawks. She commands every scene. Yeah. And she's amazing. Mum, the food was great. Oh, was it? Loved it.

Good. Like really. had to hold back on those finger sandwiches. You and the finger sandwiches are just... It's one of my strong points. How, what do you do? It's just like you do the right quantity of filling. Because I like sandwiches.

Yes. And I think if you like sandwiches, you know how to make a good... Maybe you should open a sandwich shot. Okay. Just in my spare time. In your space? Yeah. Because I don't have much on.

The Madelins are delicious. So easy to make. And I feel really... A looklish. Yeah, they looked. It's worth behind the moulds, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to text Joe and say a big hit.

The chiropractor. Yeah. He told me to use the more complicated recipe. But I think that recipe was just used. Give them a shout out. Good food. Well, they called Easy Madelins. Yeah.

But they were lovely. And it's 50, 50, 50. Oh, I love it when it's that. 50 of... It had that little crunch around the air. Yeah. I think, my... That was just a tribute to the silicon moulds.

Wow, I loved it. Thank you for watching and thank you for listening and we will see you next week for more table manners.