Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11 Ep 13: Naomi Scott

Episode Date: April 7, 2021

Now that we can record outside, it was a pleasure to have over the treasure that is Naomi Scott for a Tuna Nicoise salad and Orange & Almond cake.We first met at a Vogue x Tiffany fashion party for the BAFTAs and I adored her. Everyone knows her for playing Princess Jasmine in the Aladdin remake, but now she has turned her hand to fictional podcasting, producing and starring in 'Soft Voice' alongside Olivia Cooke and Bel Powley. It's fab. Naomi talks about growing up as the Pastor's daughter, her Nan’s cooking and early memories of making Chapati's together.She also talks about her (very handsome) husband who she met at 16 at church and growing up surrounded by gospel music in Hounslow. By the way if you haven't heard her voice, you will soon. It's incredible.We agree that Naomi has good table manners and I believe she is the first guest to list a banoffee pie as her last dessert (made by cousin Hannah). Great choice!!! Lennie can't get a word in edge ways (sorry mum), we loved her coming over! Xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with my mum and apparently I've taken her seat for the intro. So noted for next time mum, sorry about that. I've become institutionalised since lockdown. How are you today mum? I'm fine darling, I've been up very early baking. Was that a wholesome experience for you? No, I boiled my oranges last night and then I pureed them this morning with everything else to make an orange and almond cake. Delicious. Gluten

free. Quite fitting for the week that we are in which is Passover. Yeah. How's that going for you? It's fine. Have you eaten any bread? No of course not. I know you have because you're a dreadful Jew. Well, I'm putting it down to being pregnant and just needing that piece of bread. Because I'm watching my weight at the minute, I'm only having one piece of matzah a day. I'm pretty hungry. Well, what have you got on the menu for today? Doing a fresh tuna nicoise with lovely fish from Upper Scale.

Oh, lovely. The wonderful Upper scale who chatted to me on the phone said get delivered the day before darling and you won't be worried by the way upper scale don't give mum free fish by the way no they don't but i just think their fish is wonderful and i think it's good value and last night i had a whole place to myself oh and a house whole place in my whole house sitting on my whole sofa are we searing the tuna yeah what do you mean by searing well is it going to be rare raw i don't like it overcooked no me neither but i do like it cooked i don't want it raw no and i guess i shouldn't but it's sashimi grade isn't it sashimi oh is it sashimi sashimi it it sashimi? What did you say? Shashimi No it's sashimi

It is sashimi grade Say how you say it because it makes me laugh Shashimi grade Oh Sean Connery's here So today we have a guest who I met at a fashion party when that happened over a year ago just before lockdown You've clearly stopped going darling What's that mean? To fashion parties

Oh should we tell the listeners what you said to me this morning? Just as I walk through the door. You've got toothpaste on your dress. I've got toothpaste on my dress, which is a real shame because I've still got the label in. Because I couldn't be bothered to take it out. And I've got, stop looking at my shoes. You've got your... I've got Birkenstocks on and I've got very pale legs, which are also hairy because I haven't been to a beautician.

And to be fair, I don't care if my legs are hairy. And the dress is rather ballooning or billowing. And you just said, Christ alive. God, you look big. You look pregnant, darling. And then I had to undress to show you that my bump is quite neat. So you just belly shamed me mom anyway so on to the guest that we've got i met this guest naomi scott at a vogue party vogue tiffany party it was very fancy affair on a sunday night it was kind of

around the bafters i think so everyone was in town but i remember meeting this girl who came up to me quite geekily i I have to say. Now, anyone who knows Naomi Scott knows that she is this kind of siren beauty, played Princess Jasmine in the recent adaptation that Guy Ritchie did, and has a voice of an angel, like honestly can sing, do riffs, do everything, and is now turning her hand to podcasting as well. Oh, she's pretty. Yeah, gorge, right? So she comes up to me and is like turning her hand to podcasting as well. Oh, she's pretty. Yeah, gorge, right?

So she comes up to me and is like, hi. And I thought, I was like, who's this really gorgeous girl in a fabulous dress, obviously been dressed, and being really like little keen bean, my kind of girl. And I thought she was basically going to, she was basically said how, what big fan she was of the podcast. So we've been trying to get this going for a year, but lockdown has meant that this happened.

Now we can do it outside. Now we can do it outside. We're having her over for a tuna niçoise and an almond and orange cake. And she is very excited, mum. And we can't wait to chat to her about her new podcast. So she's done this podcast, which she's produced. Jessie, does she sing A Whole New World?

The Disney songs? Yes, mum! Oh, even though it sing A Whole New World? The Disney songs? Yes, Mum! Oh, even though it's proper people, it's the Disney songs? Yeah, they did like a real person. Okay. Anyway, Naomi Scott is coming up on Table Manners. Maybe you'll get A Whole New World. Maybe you'll get talk about her new podcast, Soft Voice,

which I've listened to. And it's really good. Really compelling. It's about a girl called Lydia who seemingly has quite a perfect life. She's a really successful estate agent. And she has this soft voice that's in her head that kind of governs her moves and her decisions and choices in life.

And then one day soft voice leaves her and dark voice appears. And dark voice is a whole different personality who governs her in a very different way. Your soft voice is your conscience, isn't it? Yes. It might be like your id and your ego and your super ego. Well, to be discussed with Naomi Scott on Table Memories. Right, Naomi Scott has walked through the door like a whirlwind Not on her carpet

Not on her carpet No, damn it My Addison Lee carpet But she's here and she's brought two bottles of wine Which makes mum very happy We got a few dietary requirements And it's kind of, you know, it comes to the territory of an international superstar like we've had this before don't worry no no no but then you've just come in and been like oh no no i just can't have dairy here's the thing disclaimer i'm not a

medical professional however i have this condition it's called tsw which is sounds like i know R&B group by the way it does isn't it TLC they sing scrubs yeah exactly exactly um so it's called it's topical steroid withdrawal I love how we're going into like my medical the first thing straight away no it's great I love it um and it's basically I grew up with eczema and uh they you know doctors use steroids stero cream, which I have very strong feelings about, again. And, you know, over the years, my body kind of became somewhat... What's the word? Well, you get addicted to these steroid creams, and then your body stops... You can't manage without them.

Yeah, exactly. And then they give you strong steroids, et cetera, et cetera. And then your body just goes, nah, it doesn't work anymore right to which point i was maybe like 23 i had this i just basically blew up all over my body and this was after i filmed aladdin and um me and my husband were like okay we're gonna let we need to go natural like fully natural heal naturally so we chucked all my steroid creams away and my immunosuppressant cream which is another thing um and what then ensues is a you know two to five year drug withdrawal that no one tells you about that you go through which is gnarly like very like but as you can see you know my skin is beautiful oh i mean it's look at that skin it's not but so this has been all remedied through a diet well no it's

been remedied by patients and just stop taking the drug like what do you do when you're itchy if you have a reaction to something like I remember at the vogue party you were itching you said yes you said my eczema's really playing up do you know what's funny back at that point i still didn't even know i had tsw i didn't know about it there's not a lot of there's not a lot of light shone on it for many different reasons but um the other thing is it's actual it's nerve damage so it's the steroid creams they they you know your skin is your biggest organ it's not just this it's not a allergic reaction and it's not a histamine reaction it's it's literally nerve damage so the the itch is bone deep so you can't

quench the itch do you know what i mean it's a bit nasty sorry and it's probably we're about to eat and i'm like and i flake everywhere and i'm doing it it is it's but i think it's really important to talk about because a lot of people are going through it and a lot of people are going through it and they don't even realize that it's tsw they think it's really severe adult eczema yeah but actually it's like no no it's from the steroid creams that you're using so it just means that you see like my elasticity so when i smile i don't have the normal elasticity it looks like i'm kind of that's from steroids that's it's the the healing process so i'm three years in and i i do non-moisture treatment which means i don't put any moisture on my skin why because it's forcing my body to to be able to create its own cortisol levels and

its own oils and moisturize itself so i um it's pretty crazy because when you're on camera like my face is my work yeah it's it does a lot I mean it's been a pretty interesting few years um how does your face react to makeup then is it a nightmare or it's because you always look glowy to me well a lot of the again another weird thing about this is 2019 which was when I was a bit out in the world you know in terms of promoting stuff and whatnot it was almost a delayed reaction that I had because of protopic which is an immunosuppressant cream blah blah blah I won't get too much into it basically I had a year where I kind of my skin was pretty good and I was able to function and you know as you said on pictures I looked fine hit 2020 it all kind of went to pot and um thank god for a pandemic by the way so literally i went

through my worst symptoms because some of the symptoms on i'm not just skin related they're like other stuff but um so did you think i bet you thought it was all the kind of you know just actress like oh i can't have this i, we've got loads of people like that. The thing is, what, and here's the thing, dairy is the main thing that kind of is a trigger. And that's associated with eczema a lot, isn't it? Exactly. Because dairy is just not good in general for me. No.

But for this, for example, I find it really hard to keep to all of it. I'm such an eater. Like, I eat, I just love food so much hence why i was like email my team like has to be in person um actually only works i don't know if you're aware of this product i would just made it a real thing you and elizabeth olsen and i love it but i would have done the full shebang with the chicken well look it's you know what it's a lunch you know we're having a tuna and it's fresh tuna and then mum's made an orange and almond cake that doesn't have butter in it does it yeah no and no butter no

butter no gluten no gluten vegan ice cream if you want some yes it has anything yeah yeah i love eggs fine so i will actually by the way i would even this is the thing give me a glass of wine as well i'm like yeah give it yeah yeah yeah ice cream yeah yeah, this is the thing. Give me a glass of wine as well. I'll be like, yeah, give it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ice cream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. That's the thing.

I'm like, we've got you. We've been next door for the vegan ice cream. Tiff will turn up. My cousin Tiff will turn up and be like, get it out of her mouth. Like she's the one. Like it's, it's, yeah, no, it's funny. Well, no, you're sorted here. It's just potentially not the most riveting meal, but actually.

No, it's made from since eight o'clock. It's made from the heart. No, I'm just excited to be here to eat with you guys. Good. Very sweet. So tell me, you know,

background, your heritage. Okay. Because how does it work? You're kind of eating with eating with your family. Oh, my mum makes, do you know the thing

that kills me though? What? It's spice. So spice, the inflammation, because it heats, it must inflame. Heat in the body. Make you itchy. By the way, I don't, yeah, makes oh do you know the thing that kills me though what is spice so spice the inflammatory because it must inflame heat in the body by the way i don't yeah and it just it's so sad because my mum's doll and her like aubergine curry and her oh my gosh i like love my mum's food recipe for an aubergine curry do you think she'd give me yes absolutely well where's your so so okay sorry anyway yeah give

me the give me the the lowdown who was in your house when you were younger what were you eating as a kind of like typical family meal and who was cooking my nan did you did you live with your nan no no sorry we didn't sorry i meant i we would go to my nan's all the time to eat okay but um oh in our household though it was weird it was kind of because i'm part so my dad's english my mom's indian and which part of india so well she's actually she's actually african uh she's ugandan asian yes exactly so kenya no no no no but you're right there's a lot of there were a lot of kenya yeah so uganda yeah so she was ugandan she uh she moved to england when she was 11 years old um my nan with her 10 children um about two months before idi amin started going a bit mental so they managed to get out which was like if they hadn't got out he'd have yeah he'd done something he would have

done probably i don't know he yeah you wouldn't be here i would not be here i would be or i would just be in a different form so where did they end up in the uk so they ended up i don't know where they first ended up but they it ended up being like hounslow that they kind of grew up um and yeah my dad's just from wimbledon he's just super british super youslow that they kind of grew up. And yeah, my dad's just from Wimbledon. He's just super British, super, you know. So I kind of grew up... Where did they meet? They met at church, actually, you know.

So you're Christian? Yeah, I would say so. I feel like that word is loaded. So it's kind of interesting for me to... Yes, I would say yes. I think the clue is in the church bit. Yeah, the church. They hadn't become Hindi or... No, no no no she and this is another interesting thing because she was you know her her family you know they were

hindu um but i would say i'm to what extent practicing not sure like my my grandma she said to all her daughters because there were nine daughters and one son and she said you know you can marry whoever you want to marry there wasn't kind of that pressure in terms of so they all went off and they're all around the world married to different you know different nationalities and whatnot um but I also think there was that whole thing of like assimilation you know like you come to the UK and you want to assimilate and um so I think there was a little bit of that and she was only 11 years old so my mum's kind of very English as well do you know, like you come to the UK and you want to assimilate. And, um, so I think there was a little bit of that and she was only 11 years old. So my mom's kind of very English as well. Do you know what I mean? It's kind of an interesting mix. So yeah, growing up, I think I had pretty

British meal. Like I was, it was a very British household in that sense. It was only when I went to my, my nan's house that one of my earliest memories was making chapatis with my nan. earliest memories was making chapatis with my nan oh I know it was so so like oh just so lovely um and my nan's curries were the best like they were just so good she's still around she's not no she died gosh I want to say like six years ago I mean maybe that's not even did she come come over with your granddad I think they came first and my granddad came after but I'm not 100% sure um but it was you know it was my nan really that that put all the hard work in in terms of getting passports for everyone and you know in that culture i think there was another family that helped them

financially to get out as well um but yeah my nan was like this tiny tiny little indian indian woman and she had these you know she was like size two feet and but but just like amazing what she was you know when you're like wow she don't want she did when yeah when I was younger I remember her wearing saris and then as she got older not so much but yeah like my memories of her were you know and in her house and all the different like Hindu gods around and like you just have those like memories you know and just always smells it's isn't it always smells when it comes to like your childhood so i might walk past yesterday we were riding um cycling around east london and i we we uh went past somewhere i went to jordan oh my gosh i smelled chapattis i smell fresh chapatti like

i could just remember that smell but honestly like curry for me like just homemade curry it's just that's that is my like you just mentioned jordan yeah he's your really handsome husband oh my god mom you're sad you would have been really happy don't say that he would have been like well he's also your manager isn't he well yeah i guess technically you could have like brought him for work i know i could have oh should i show you a picture mom could have honestly and he's he was semi-pro footballer pro yeah jesse i know dream perfect but he's yes this is hubby oh my god yeah know. Get him in a cab, quick. Get him over here. Where did you meet?

Church. Oh my God. Oh my God. Stop, that's so racist. Jessie, if you've gone to synagogue, you might have met... There's like a biopic coming on. If you've gone to synagogue, you might have met a nice Jewish boy. I'll get mine on at primary school.

Primary school. Wait, primary? Yeah. I met Jordan when I was 16. That's so sweet. We started going out when I was 16 that's so sweet we started going out when I was 17 and then you got married quite early yeah yeah by the way which now I'm like oh my gosh if a 21 year old came up to me was like yeah I'm gonna uh think I'll get married

I'll be like uh sorry excuse me um but at the time um also I think people that knew us we in terms of our work we we kind of had to grow up quite quickly so we i think we we matured quite quickly so um so people that knew us i think it made sense you know he was a professional footballer yeah he was a claim for oh gosh at the time west when we met you it's going to be west ham yeah did you just had a feeling yeah i had the feeling it was a west ham player yeah so you were going to church regularly i'm a pastor's kid i'm a pk i am a pastor's daughter oh wow this is that's where she's got the singing from it's like i grew up singing in church like i grew up on gospel music yeah okay penny dropped i mean no but why would you you know um so i grew up on like mary mary kim

burrell like pop like gospel like kirk franklin you know so yeah that was my bag and did they have an amazing but who was in the band at your church because there's always stars that have come out like labyrinth was in the church band no stars oh no no this was more like this was more like you know uncle martin on the bass just just like 60 year old, just do it, like going off on his, like this was not as slick as, you know, the American church in that sense. It was just like, we met in a school hall. It was, but it's, you know, the music that I grew up on definitely was more that kind of pop gospel thing.

So when did you get your first solo? When did I get my first solo? Oh, I don't even remember. Don't you remember what it was? No, I don't even remember don't you remember what it was no I don't but I do because I just remember singing in church and then like yeah every now and then there'd be I'd like start a song or something but I do remember the first time I actually sung for real like as a performance we had this summer camp called Wanna Sing, Gonna Sing. Sounds great. I know, I loved it. And the girl who was running it,

she gave me Say a Little Prayer, Aretha Franklin. Oh, wow. By the way, tough song. Yeah. Bloody tough song. Was it sabotaging? No, she was like, I think you can do it. Yeah, I think you can do it.

Why is it so tough? It's really, it's quite hard. Is it tough? I mean, you know, for like a 12-year-old. It's quite a big range For like a 12 year old It's quite It's quite like And then it's like Forever and ever

This day in my heart It's very high It really goes there And I remember performing and my parents were like Oh like she can you know We knew she could sing but there's you know she can like sing sing was jordan in the audience no this was i think this was before we met but he when the first time he came to church i was singing on stage this is hilarious i even

remember what i was wearing terrible by the way this you know when you remember it was this do you know what there was this shop oh my gosh where was this in hounslow no this was in uh this is when we moved to east so we moved i grew up in hounslow and then we moved to ilford my mum was just finding the south asians wherever she went yeah she was like from hounslow good market so yeah exactly no but literally this dress that i was wearing right was from risky it was like at the Ilford Exchange cheap ass I don't know where they got this stuff from but anyway I remember I think there's one in Stratford yes probably yeah there's one in the old market so what was the dress bigger

it was like this great was it risky for church you know I think it actually was now I come to look because you know why they were like these studs it was was like grey, tight, and then long sleeved, but like woolen, like not woolen, but like thick, you know, like cottony. And then like, it was pretty, you know, it was buffy. Okay. So, and he walked in, I say he walked in, he was there and he's really tall. So I noticed him. So I noticed him.

Yeah. You know, so there's me like, well, I might add a riff or two in there. I was like, yeah, you know, and, um, but I thought he was way older sing it for us oh gosh no i can't remember what i was singing to be honest and then they were like um my dad always does this thing where he's like right go and say hello to someone someone you haven't met oh no it's not reach out like she's like you go straight for jordan straight for Jordan. But he was saying this was auntie. And I thought, who's now, you know, my auntie, auntie Paula, big up auntie Paula. And I thought they were brother and sister.

And I was like, oh, is this your, is this your, I don't know. Auntie Paula loved that. Yeah, by the way. Maybe I was trying to, you know, get in with the auntie, you know. And anyway, he was just very reserved and very quiet. And I was just intrigued by him. I was like, this guy is just weird and then I found out he's a footballer and I was like

oh I don't know about that oh yes that would be a complete relief I was just not I think I had this idea in my head of what a footballer and I was like oh no but I was like no he's actually kind of cool he must have had a nice physique.

Oh, lovely physique. This is mum asking us questions we all want to know. It's important, the physique. The physique, he's a footballer. Yeah, it is. Because there is something about a build of a man. I mean, how tall is he? 6'3". And you're pretty petite.

I'm very small. How much do you have to get on a step to kiss him? Do you remember the Yellow Pages ad? That's like you. To get the Yellow Pages ad him do you remember the yellow pages ad that's like you to get the yellow pages ad no 100% no I he just bends down

he's got a bad back hasn't he he's got a bad back that's why he's like this he's got no footballing career now because he's got a bad back from kissing you from 16 literally

oh gosh it's good old George so you made a beeline for him and you didn't really speak and didn't really speak and then we and then he I remember the first day we went to his local italian and

not even pizza no not even more pizza express i love pizza express though by the way um and i was so nervous i didn't because so he'd seen me in so many different settings everyone knows me for like how much i eat i eat a lot and i have i can eat I can out eat like my husband I can out eat anyone um especially when I'm hungry so I can eat a lot of food and he'd seen me in action you know and I'm like a baby dinosaur and I eat so but I was really nervous so I remember I didn't I had like one slice of pizza and I think he was like what is wrong with her like you know why is she not eating and that was our first date and I just remember all I remember is being so nervous him driving me home and like I was just nervous and then like I ran in yeah it was just I had pizza on my first well not my first date he it was on the we'd gone on like two dates but then it was the first time

we had to eat in front of each other and it wasn't really a date it was valentine's night and i bought you that thornton's heart so sweet um so i'd already made a deal with my best mate because i was single when i made the fucking deal to do like a galentine's right so we're gonna go plan b go and like have a dance and be single together and then i met this boy and then he asked me to come to his house for valentine's first year i thought i was gonna have some sex so i drunk my amaretto that felix white you never discussed first of all i thought i had to have sex in the cookbook i was living i'm glad the conversations have evolved since then first of all I thought I was going to have to No but it was really

I downed a bit of amaretto He'd ordered dominoes And he said do you want some It was my favourite, barbecue chicken With the garlic dip I didn't touch it because I was so worried I'd get something in my teeth I was so hungry Because I'd drunk all that amaretto

And I was like fuck were you drunk or were you just i was a bit woozy like just dutch curry all right you don't drink i don't really drink so um well i do and you're seven and you're 17 um 18 18 okay okay and and i have to like watch him eat the pizza that was really sad about missing out on because i like my food too and then he drove me down his mum's estate car to Brixton so I could go and like all I wanted to do was be with him and like have a valentine's kiss because like that that had never happened to me and an 18 year old that feels quite important but so okay so back to your childhood your mum cooking quite British dishes what was like your favorite growing up do you know what my favorite was just it and i think

it's always attached to memories it was always just a sunday roast after church always church just comes into this so how did she do that with the church thing because i would oh she prep did she when did she i wasn't that it wasn't that sophisticated it wasn't like you went to church what time did church finish because if you're the pastor's daughter, then... 12.30, I'd say. And then she had to get the roast on. Yeah, so she'd go straight home, put the chicken in. Yeah, she'd just get on it. So she'd leave church a little bit earlier, put it in.

Oh, you see. And then we'd have Maureen. This is what women have to do. They have to sacrifice their... Their social time after church with custard creams and shit. So she would go home, put the chicken in, and then Maureen would always come round for dinner. Who's Maureen?

She was just this lady at church, and she was just this... On her own. You know when you just remember those characters? Yeah, she lived alone. So your mum always had her. Very much a cat lady, yeah. And your mum always had her. But, like, amazing.

She was this just really robust... Like, yeah, that's how I think of her. And I just remember us always doing the chicken together. We'd always cut the chicken together. And I just eat so much of it already. And, like, the skin. The skin's my my favorite so I think it's just memories of sitting around sunday roast that's why like literally it's kind of funny my favorite meals are either like indian curries or like a proper english roast I love an english dinner do. Do you make either of those very well? Are you a good cook?

I'm okay. I'm a good cook. I feel like naturally I am a good cook, but I have not invested any time. So I need to... But I don't know. I feel like you've got such enthusiasm. You've probably got your favourite spot

to go and have the roast now. No, I make a good roast. Oh, you make a good roast. I do make a... Curry or potato? Curry, that's the thing i'm yet to yeah that's i know how to a basic you know something about an elder that does it like the seasoning the spice every i'm saying i can't i'm not not sure i'm a great curry you're not the best curry yeah but um i think that you know doing roasts are just the best, most delicious.

The best. It's my favourite. Except we've been doing it. How do you do your roast potatoes? She's got really good this year. Okay, I need to know. I've only got good because of Alex, really. So I think, for me, the key has been using rapeseed oil.

Rapeseed oil can heat to a higher temperature, so it makes it really crisp. And it's slightly more buttery rake seed oil than sunflower. What potatoes do you use? Maris Piper, always. It is Maris Piper, isn't it? Always, always. Because I've tried a few different ones. And then boil them and just cook them for about three or four minutes after they start

to boil. And then really waggle them around. So you get them a bit fluffy around the edge. So get fluffy on the outside and then put them in hot oil. Whilst mum cooks the tuna for our tuna niçoise, I want to know, where have you been eating during lockdown? Which is the restaurant that you're going to go to as soon as those restaurants are open okay i love japanese food rocker i've

never been to rocker does that mean you want your tuna seared rather than well done because it is yeah there you go oh is it yeah oh bloody well in that case yeah should we do seared yeah oh i'll take whatever honestly i'll eat whatever um so rocker i've heard great things yeah i love japanese food oh gosh where do i want to go there's so many places are there good places where you live um do you know what there's not actually loads of great restaurants around where there is like no we're more of like a toby carver situation it's not like as like fancy um there's a good weed oh no actually there is um sheesh in chigwell oh my god i've seen it on towie is it good yeah it's great is it i mean the decor is questionable but let me tell you no but the but the shisha's good. The shisha's good. Oh, I love shisha.

And they do delivery now, right? Yes. I do love a shisha, because I love how they do their salad. I love, yeah, it's great. And do you know what? They used to do this breaded mug. I'm already tipsy. Blah, blah, blah.

Oh, Jessie, what are you doing to me? It's like, what the time? Okay, at least it's afternoon. I can say it's afternoon, technically. But they used to do this bread and butter pudding and they don't do it anymore and it's so sad it was my favorite thing i always used to go i don't know why because it was so popular it can be like the naomi scott bread and butter pudding like the larry david sandwich should i try and yeah i should try and figure something out other than that there's not loads of places near where we live so do you cook a lot then? Yeah, we do.

We do cook a lot. Is Jordan a good cook? He is a good cook, yeah. So, you know, during the weeks it's more kind of, you know, my staple I'd say is just like baked salmon, sweet potato, you know, some veg. Quite simple. Just help yourself.

Thank you. I haven't done enough salad for 400 people, but never mind. Oh, no, I eat a lot. Well, Naomi said that she eats a lot. Oh, my gosh, guys, this is so, like, healthy as well. Yeah, well, that's okay. Oh, my gosh, yeah, of course. Okay, great.

Guys, any offering is welcome. Do you want maximum or not? Mum, it looks very lovely Mmm The sashimi grade Oh yeah, this is great It's perfect, mother Mmm

Perfect Yeah, yeah, yeah And this kind of suits your Your weekly meal Of your baked salmon This is just a bit of a version Do you know why else this is great? It's been hot the last couple of days, isn't it?

So you kind of need something lovely and light and fresh it's going to be so hot today I'm having a barbecue later perfect

bit optimistic thanks mum so is it nice oh yeah this is great I want to ask you yeah

podcasting is quite a new venture for you like with three episodes in it's really good thank you it's really good because I don't really

listen to like fictional things neither do I so okay you're starring in it but you're also a producer on it like did you write it

who wrote it like how did this all come about okay so like you like we were just saying i've never really listened to narrative podcasts it's not really been a thing for me but uh i was filming a movie end of last year and uh can you say what it is yes it's called distant uh with

anthony ramos i don't know if you've seen uh what was he in hamilton yeah Yes! He's... Hold on, is he... He is also in The Heights coming out. He's very, very talented. Like, ridiculous. Like, annoyingly talented. Does he dance or sing? If you're in Hamilton, yeah, of course. Is he a singer, but he does a bit of hip-hop dancing and everything?

I mean, yes, I'd say he does a bit of hip-hop dancing. Yeah, he's a good dancer. He's a great singer. Amazing singer. Anyway, but he's also a very talented actor. So in this movie with him, two people in space, very COVID friendly. Yeah, cool. We shot it in Budapest.

And the producer that we were working with, he has a podcast company called Q Code. And I was basically talking about how I love Olivia Cooke. But we're always up for the same roles. So we never really... Oh, really? Yeah, so we never, you know, cross paths in that way. way and he was like I might just have the thing that you could work together on so he sent us this short story and we were just like this is really cool and uh we had a zoom meeting with the uh writer James Blore so he's the creator James Blore and um this

actor from Brighton he was in Brighton at the time he's like my age you know wrote this uh wrote this script for his boyfriend who he ended up breaking up with and uh had this you know script milling about and um it was about kind of his his own personal journey it's a lot to do with his kind of mental health and um i'm gonna kind of he would be able to speak way more into that whole thing but what we loved about it was it was such a specific tone so he had his writing style was such dark comedy so british so funny so having all these different conversations and it just felt so unique and we were like oh my gosh we love this so we were like i'm so down um so olivia was engaged in it and we we met and over zoom and we chatted and um we were all just really enthusiastic about this project and there's a third role in it that we were kind

of you know talking about who we'd and the top of our list was bell powley i've loved her since diary of a teenage girl she's so good um how good was she in King of Staten Island did you see her in that no I haven't seen that yet but I do my god she's amazing I know I've seen like clips phenomenal she's by the way she has my heart both these girls I love and respect so much and it was so cool because we all kind of we do probably go up for the same roles and it's really nice coming together and being like we can work together we can we're all produced you know we're all producers and yeah we just believed it was one of those things we didn't know much about narrative podcasts we didn't believe but we knew that this was really great yeah and it was definitely something we wanted to be a part of

and what q code kind of do is they have these um narrative podcasts that they connect with these actors and then they that's kind of like your own IP, right? So you can then sell it as a TV show. It's a bit of a proof of concept. Because I can imagine it being a TV show after this. Wink, wink, wink. Starring. Yeah, cool.

Yeah. So it's kind of, that's the idea. And we just loved this. And I think ultimately you have to, especially when you're producing something, you have to believe in it so much. And we really did. We believe in it so much. And we really do. We all love it so much. So before you came, I tried to explain it in the intro.

It's hard to explain. I mean, when I explained it and mum hasn't listened to it, she was like, well, that's about schizophrenia, isn't it? But I don't know if it is. Voices in your head is about, it's schizoaffective really. Or you're in your ego, about it's so effective really or is it one or your ego you know because we all live yeah i mean i always used to say that um the way parents are with children is your you don't have your parent out with you when you're a teenager you have to make decisions but your parent is really sitting on your shoulder telling you the what to do and what not to do the good things or the bad things and the bad things are people pulling you to say

oh go on try that and the good thing is the one sitting me sitting on jesse's shoulder saying don't do that it might not end well but it's a really clever way of portraying kind of inner dialogue and conflict and morals and anxiety i mean it's really it's really meaty they're like short episodes but like you and you're fully engaged with these characters straight away olivia cook's character dark voice you i mean lydia and then soft voice who comes in a bit later it's so dynamic so it's like i mean i imagine it's doing really well right do you know what we've had and you know our aim was never to be like we want to make a podcast that's gonna you know um millions of people what we wanted was the people that engage with our podcast to connect with it in the way that we connected with it and that's what we're finding we're

finding that people that are connecting with it are really loving it so everyone from my mother-in-law to like my friends that are you know really into things you know or into podcasts or whatever and as you said that there's there's a lot of um a lot of themes going on and actually you hit on something about this idea of voices that are also past voices um so basically it's about this this estate agent 25 year old estate agent called lydia um who has a voice in her head called soft voice who tells her what to do this kind of perfectionism one day soft voice leaves and is replaced with another voice how many episodes are there's 10 episodes and each wednesday we release an episode and it's interesting you say about a lot of people feel like they can relate in some way

or the conversations around mental health, which again, I feel like James, this has come from his mind. So sometimes, you know, when you're like, I don't want to butcher it and kind of talk, but there are a lot of different themes. And I think there's a lot of things, conversations to come out of it. Yeah, and it's, as I said,

it's a very personal journey thing. Yeah, and as I said, it's a very personal journey thing. Darling, are you going to have some? Yes, I mean, of course I'm going to have some. Mum is cutting the orange and almond cake. I mean, hear that squelch. Now, do you want ice cream, darling? There.

Yes. It's there. It's not the greatest combination flavouring. I'm not the greatest the greatest cake guys you know it's great cake i don't care i like it i don't care i'm so down so on to your last supper you know you know the drill come on what's going to be on it oh my gosh last supper you guys can i have anything i want yeah yeah and can i also say that like i net i don't get full yeah okay okay because i would have i need like a roast dinner somewhere in the day because it's a day i need like a full roast dinner with my mother-in-law's mac and cheese because she does

the most amazing macaroni what does she do to make it so great i think it's something to do with mustard oh yeah right mustard that's like well shabby i don't know i also don't want to like i'm scared to give away no i think mustard is like a known thing. But it's so good. And like, by the way, she doesn't really cook. She doesn't cook. But this is just her thing. This is her thing.

And it's amazing. So it'd be like the Caribbean version of like a Christmas dinner. Which is like the mac and cheese, the coleslaw, the lamb. So it'd be the whole thing, right? I would definitely have curry. It has to be curry in there somewhere. So would'd be the whole thing, right? I would definitely have curry. It has to be curry in there somewhere. So would it be your grandma's... It would be like probably my mum's dal.

If you could have spice for the day, would you have it? Yeah, of course. I'd have everything. Yeah. Any and everything. Yeah. Dal and...

Oh gosh, what else would I have? Obviously chapatis and kind of... Maybe... By the way, I can have curry for breakfast. Maybe that would be breakfast. I love curry for breakfast. I love curry for breakfast as of, maybe, by the way, I can have curry for breakfast. Maybe that would be breakfast. I love curry for breakfast. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird in India.

You do have a bit of curry for breakfast. Yeah, you do. That's not weird, is it? No, I think it's weird because it's kind of a very substantial meal. No, but. No, but you have little, so for example,

we might have like, a lot of, be like vegetarians, for example, you'd have like a thali, which would be like a little, you know, little pots of dal dal and different like curries like vegetarian curries with um i love the sambal the coconut sambal okay so we've got curry for breakfast we've got roast for lunch caribbean

roast for lunch pudding oh oh gosh okay i love love my cousin Hannah's banoffee pie. Ooh. I love banoffee pie. And then what are you drinking? Oh, I don't know. Wine? Do you like champagne? Cocky teas?

Do you like cocky teas? Cocktails? Yeah, I do like cocktail. Maybe like, I do like a gin and tonic. Have you got good table manners? I don't think I do. I think you do. All right, darling.

I mean, I think I maybe do a bit of like, I don't know. Would you, do table manners as in like the proper, proper thing? We're not like silver spoon here, are we, Mum? I'd like to think I was. Speak for yourself. I mean, let me tell you, this cake was top notch. It was really nice. Lovely.

Bit wet. I like it. Better than dry. Yeah, but I mean, they said to only bake it for 35 to 40 minutes, and I baked it for nearly an hour. Wow. But it came out clean, so it's not like raw dough. It's just very wet. You're really not painting a picture of this.

This is great. I think it is nice. You're taking that home. Would Jordan like a little slice? I mean, yes, I'd love to take some home. That's all right with you. Naomi Scott, you could be here forever. Ask her karaoke, darling. Oh, yes. Okay. Oh, I'd love to take some home. That's all right with you. Naomi Scott, you could be here forever. Ask her karaoke, please.

Oh, yes. Okay. Oh, I know my karaoke. Okay, go on. Best I ever had, Drake. Oh, I can imagine you doing a good one. How do you do that one? No.

Drake raps a lot, though. No, he sings. Does he sing a lot? What does he do? Grab? I thought you rapped. I thought you said grabs a lot. I was like,

no. So, oh, I love that. Do you do karaoke a lot though? No, never really. But you knew that.

You asked the question and I had to decide. Yeah, it was, do you know why it was decisive? That was back in the day when I was like 18 going out with Jord.

I was filming this show in Australia. Good old Jord. And I did did i learned the rap he he introduced me to drake back in the day of like comeback season so like that's like one of his like old school old school mixtapes and um so i was like you know trying to impress him being like i'm gonna learn the learn the lyrics the best i ever had and then um when he uh i think i don't know if i made a video or if i performed it to him over, like, Skype.

And I wore all this stupid stuff and I learnt all the words to it and that's how it's probably, I know. Performed it over Skype. You're too cute. She's been, she was, she was the head of a game. I love you for it. She was the head of a game with Skype and Zoom. Yeah, Skype.

Naomi Scott, you have come over, you've got a little drunk. I love you very, very much. You are an amazing singer that hopefully people will be able to hear you singing beyond a whole new world. I just think people,

everyone needs to hear your voice now or the Drake tone. Oh my gosh. I know, I was like this close to doing it and then I was like,

you will regret it, no. You nearly tipped me over the edge. Thank you so much for doing Table Manners. Thank you for much for taking that with me. Didn't I tell you you'd love her? Yeah, I thought it was really

funny when she kept on talking about her husband because she looks about 11. I know. She is such a star and she's so lovely. You can just imagine everyone loves working with her. She's warm, lovely and enthusiastic and just a joy to be with. Thank you, Naomi Scott. And honestly, go and listen to Soft Voice. I haven't really listened to narrative ones before

and it's really, really compelling. Hope you're all well and we'll see you next week. Lots of love