Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S11: Extra Helpings 1

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

Despite the different lockdowns and restrictions we’ve had over the past year, we’ve kept going and it’s been an absolutely stellar year of Table Manners with such fabulous guests from all around the world. Whilst we gear up to Series 12 (how did that happen?!) we’ve put together a couple of episodes of highlights to serve up as an extra helping. In this first episode, listen back to hear Dolly Parton’s room service order, Michael McIntyre’s embarrassing dad behaviour, Yungblud ordering pints at Noma, Take That’s game of ‘King Naan’, me fangirling over Kylie Minogue & Lydia West’s gem of knowledge about ordering cookie dough from Pizza Hut. Listen, share and enjoy!! X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to this special episode of Table Manners, which is a collection of some of our favourite bits from the past year. We've had some amazing guests this year. Despite the different lockdowns and restrictions, we've kept going for you and had some amazing guests, either at Mum's House for Food or via Zoom. We always prefer Mum's House for Food, particularly me, because I I get fed very very well three times a week sometimes kicking us off is of course the wonderful Dolly Parton who joined us last autumn I was in the studio recording my record and my mum was on zoom and Dolly had a Christmas tree behind her and it definitely was October we were absolutely made up to have Dolly on the podcast and I definitely was slightly starstruck. As you can see, I don't really say much and I'm quite scared. I didn't need to be because she's the most charming woman in the world.

Dolly grew up in a huge family. She's one of 12. So I asked her whether her mum was a good cook. Oh, of course she had to cook for that big house full of young'uns. So everything mum cooked, you'd think there wouldn't be a thing to eat in the house and mama would just start cooking and before you know it there was always something that always was always good there's a lot of you there's you've got a lot of brothers and sisters there were was there 12 of you yeah there's 12 of us and all there's six girls and six boys i have a sister and two brothers older and they're very younger, but we had a lot of mouths to feed. My sister and I had to learn to cook early. So we cook a lot

like mama and my aunts and my grandmas. Mama was always having a baby. So when mama was out with the baby, my sister Willie and I had to do the cooking, you know, in those early days. So we know how to do it. You're one of the oldest in the family yes I have a sister and two brothers older than me and so you had to take a lot of responsibility for the little ones well yeah that was that was just the rule of the house every time mama had a baby we all had to help take care of it so she had I think that's why she kept having kids just so she'd have somebody have babysit but we would we did it you know it was just a natural way of life we were always excited when we heard mom was having a new baby which was all the time i always make a joke that mom had one on her on her hip or one

inner at all times yeah so uh but we loved them all and that mom and daddy loved us all so that was just the way it is just horny hillbillies up there in the mountains did you used to forage in the mountains like would you go and pick in the mountains and go and find things to eat in the mountains well when you grow up in the mountains like we did we lived on a farm so we grew you know a lot of our own vegetables and we raised our own uh you know our own pigs and we you know we we did all that in in those days so mama just knew how to put anything together but we also did a lot of wild uh foods like rabbit hunting and uh squirrels and all the things a lot of people oh you eat squirrel you eat rabbit some of the best eating

in the world if you know how to fix it and when you live in the mountains you learn to eat and fix everything that's edible and even the greens uh you know that grow in the field you know the wild stuff that's uh that makes really tasty things like whether it's like watercress or whether it's something we call poke salad it's like the poke bush p-o-l-k i guess we call it poke poke salad but anyway it's a wild green that grows so uh there's a lot of wonderful things that you you know can cook from from the mountains and that grow you know that run wild in the woods and and the stuff you grow domestic you know on your farm around your barn in your in your barnyard i wanted to know i'm watching that documentary and Jane Fonda talking about

how you all got to know each other on 9 to 5 when you were making this film together. And you'd do these sleepovers, she said. And you'd do these sleepovers and you'd talk and you'd get to know each other. And I wanted to know, what were you ordering on room service? I need to know these things. Well, I would imagine whatever was good I guess we we ordered a lot of I guess club sandwiches and soups that sort of thing but if you you know I stayed at a really nice um hotel there the Balazs hotel when I was staying living there and they had the best things on the menu, whether it be like, I love liver and onions.

That seems to be a delicacy, too, in the city. And so I would order that kind of stuff. Anything that I could order that was close to country. They had also great steaks and great fish. And Jane, she used to eat a little better than I did because she was working out at the time. So I'm sure she and Lily were eating better and more like a baked fish and baked chicken I was getting chicken with gravy or whatever I could get that you know had some something on it that was a little more tasty to me but anyhow we would just order whatever we felt like if we were when we would chat and talk

and pizza is always great you know to order always order. Always. You probably order that in. Dolly, you have one of the best quotes about food. I mean, it's an iconic quote. It was like my true love's. You say it because you're going to say it better than me. I guess my weaknesses have always been men, sex, and food, and not necessarily in that order. Something on that order.

You've got one of the longest marriages in history. I do. My husband and I have been together for 57 years, been married 54. Congratulations. And I'm sick of him and I'm sure he's sick of me. Oh no, he's not. I can't believe anybody could get sick of Dolly Parton.

She's an absolute queen and very, very funny. Next up is the also rather funny Michael McIntyre. He came over for one of our most raucous dinners last September and arrived with a temperature gun and proceeded to check all our temperatures before entering the establishment. Here's Michael explaining why he loves Jewish people. Well, I live in North London,

which is in a very Jewish area. Yeah. In Hampstead. Yeah. And I'm moving. I've bought a house in an even more Jewish area. You're going gold as green? You're going to the suburb.

I'm going to the suburb. I'm going to the suburb. The muddle top! The muddle top! The fire! That's all we want. I've made it. Michael, you've got

kosher kingdom near. You've got greenspans. You're chopped liver and you're salt brief. I've got a new community. You've got a whole community. I've got a mezuzah. You see, do you have...

You've got mezuzahs on the door. I didn't know what a mezuzah was until I bought my house from a Jewish man. Yeah. And I thought it was... Because for listeners unfamiliar with a mezuzah, would you explain what a mezuzah is?

It's got a parchment. It's got the scroll inside with a little blessing. It's like to protect the house or something. It's luck. It's put on a wonk, which always makes you think, did they mean to do it like that? No, it's got to go in a certain direction. I don't know.

And if you do it in the wrong direction, it's wrong. It's a direction thing. It looks like it's been put on wrong. Yeah, no, it's got to go like that. Right, so I thought it was just a feature on the door. I had no idea that it was a mezuzah. And the man who sold me the house showed up at the door a week later. And he said, I've come to get my mezuzah.

But of course, I thought he was either drunk or having a stroke. Because I thought he was trying to say a recognised word that obviously began with N. But his face was just falling apart. And I was like, what is it, Eric? And he said, I need to collect my mezuzah. And I was like, oh my God, something terrible's happening to this man.

And then he started pulling at this thing on the door and I thought he'd gone mad. He took them away. Well, I didn't know what he was saying. That's not very generous. I've never heard of a mezuzah. But anyway, incredibly excited to move in, in my new community.

And this is good. Fantastic. It's Jewish New Year next week. Yeah, get it right. You've got to WhatsApp me all the information so that I can keep up. You know what, actually, Michael, I'm actually, I'm a bad Jew, but I'm becoming a better one. I'm having a bat mitzvah because I have a family of my own.

And my husband is a goy. He doesn't, you know he's we had a jewish wedding but I've decided to have a bat mitzvah to basically pass down all these things to my children for your daughter for my well for my daughter and my son and to be able to do Hanukkah god forbid when mum well I did a pass over god's sake My temperature's only gone up a degree. Cough a bit when mum goes. Let's see the latest. Just see if I'm going. No, you're still fine.

You've slipped up a little bit. We'll keep an eye. Well, we'll get you a mezuzah, but I feel like that's going to be like, I don't know, would a Jew give a mezuzah to a neighbour? Is it like bringing in a baked bread? No, darling. But it's lucky.

And I think it's bad form that he took them. Can I sneak a CCTV camera in it? Yeah, you could That could be dual purpose There's protecting a home and there's protecting a home I mean, I feel like maybe if there's some kind of that alarm thing you can get an app. Maybe we should go into business

and develop mezuzahs that are also sort of cameras that you know you can talk to the people Maybe also with a thermometer for the Covid as well oh please this will be over soon this will be

all built into the mezuzah all in the mezuzah this is amazing this is going to be a mystical magical we'll go door to door

in the suburb me and Lenny we'll hook up we'll go door to door in the suburb selling we're selling mezuzah

dry purpose dry purpose mezuzahs theyizuza they're typically for temperature they're good for cctv what's not to like another one of my favorite um jewish stories there's a gentleman and he'll he'll like that i'm telling this story because he knows that i was started to do it on stage of it and i think oh goodness i he's anthony i nearly forgot his name anthony and uh he is local and he like me i mean i don't want to make stereotypical assumptions of jewish people but there is a certain neurosis that certainly jackie mason would have played says the guy who brings in the thermometer but and that's what i'm saying i share the neurosis so myself and anthony would go

and watch our sons play football on the weekend in the park, an organised football thing. And all the other parents would leave. But me and Anthony would stay and would have camping chairs because we were so worried what would happen to our, you know, what would you, our bubblers? What would happen to our bed? You can't leave. We would just sit and discuss. Who could leave their children here? It's crazy.

Are you a competitive football dad? No, not competitive just worried no i i just careful i discourage any kind of you know aggression on the pitch in case he would get injured i was worried about him i'm worried about him and he was worried about his son so my son gets kicked in a game and i and i lose it and i run on and what i shouldn't have done because he's you know he's getting a bit older. And I'm over him and I'm going, you poor dad. Daddy's here. Daddy's here.

And he's looking at me like he hates me. All his friends are going, oh, my God, your dad's so embarrassing. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to kiss it better and all this kind of stuff. And then he said to me afterwards, don't you ever do that again. Don't even come to the games. You're an embarrassment. You're the most embarrassing dad in the world. It was tough.

Anyway, it turns out that Anthony, little bit more um embarrassing than I because the same thing happened to his kid Daniel he gets kicked Anthony unzips his his coat inside it he's got all these medical supplies oh how funny and and he's also got a spray you know this I don't know if you've seen oh when they're the proper, they spray it to take the pain away. Yes, they freeze the injury. So he starts running on the pitch, spraying, but he's so keen to spray his child that he starts spraying it while he's running. So he's running and spraying, shouting, Daniel, Daniel.

And it's spraying all the time. And as he's running away, you can hear his voice changing. And he's going, Daniel, Daniel. Because he's breathing in it, it's frozen his... Frozen his face. ac wrth i'w rhedeg, gallwch chi glywed ei fwyso yn newid ac mae'n mynd... Aelio! Aelio! Oherwydd mae'n ysgrifennu, mae'n cael ei... Mae'n cael ei gwbl yn ei fface. Mae'n cael ei fface ei hun. Felly mae'n dod o hyd i'r cymryd o'r pitch, gyda fface cael ei gwbl yn ymwneud â...

Aelio! Aelio! Ac mae'n dechrau swnio ychydig fel anil. Felly mae'n sefyll yn y cymryd o'r pitch, yn sgwrsio... Anil! Anil! Anil! Anil! Ac fe wnes i ddweud, yn ymwybodol, So he's standing in the middle of the pitch shouting, anal, anal, anal, anal. And I pointed out, you know, in hindsight, that maybe he was a slightly more embarrassing father than I am. Anthony, yeah, shouting anal in the middle of the pitch.

Is Anthony allowed to go to the games? Does Daniel mind? I know, I don't think they mind. No, because they're all, you know, they're very protective. He's been brought up in a Jewish family. We had so much fun with Michael McIntyre. He was brilliant. I chortled, like a hyena laughed.

I did all of it. And you can imagine how chuffed mum was when Michael told her she had good comedic timing. Mum now thinks that she's going to be at Edinburgh Fringe on her own. She doesn't need me anymore. She'll have her own stand up next year. Watch out. Now on to another funny man, Youngblood, who mum didn't know who the hell he was even though the whole world does who came for an afternoon tea last autumn here he is starting to tell us what

his last supper would be until he got a little sidetracked for a starter i love spanish food what i have prone prone pill pill you ever had that mad yeah on a on a like but the shittiest one you can get like on a beach bar like on like granny's in the kitchen and it looks like you're gonna get salmonella but you're not you know i mean you're just like nice bread to dip in yeah proper nice bread to dip in and just like just pint of lager i mean so oh man i need to tell you my story in a minute. I've finished this. This is the funniest fucking story ever. Tell us now. All right, fuck it.

I'll do my last supper in a minute. Right. So my tour manager, right, Jess, she's a, she, I don't, she's an incredible Australian woman, like with the biggest heart, but I don't know how she puts up with us. Like we are little shits, absolute little shits on tour. So for like, bless her, shout out jess she you know i mean she's like probably listening to this embarrassed as hell she hates any attention she's like don't take fire as me ever we were in denmark and had a couple days off and you know noma

it's like the best restaurant in the world right did you get a did you get a place there i mean listen yeah listen so some like i was like it her birthday. She really wants to go to this nice restaurant called Noma in Copenhagen, Denmark. It's the best restaurant in the world. Chef's table, stuff, something on it. It's phenomenal. All that shit. So I was like, all right, cool.

So I get a table, right? And I'm Northern as fuck, right? And it's going to be 700 quid a head. And I'm going to take four of us. And I'm going to pay for it for her birthday. I'm like, fucking hell, okay, all right. Love you, Jess. You know what I mean? Like fucking 20, you know what I mean? Whatever, 2,800 700 quid a head. And it's going to take four of us. And I'm going to pay for it for a birthday. I'm like, fuck it. Okay, all right. Love you, Jonathan. You know what I mean?

Like, fucking 20, you know what I mean? Whatever, 2,800 quid for a table. I'm like, fuck yeah. I'm going to go. I'm going to have the best steak in my life. And it's going to be great. I'm going to sit there. So I'm saying to you, listen, this is why this story's really funny.

So I get there. And I'm like, cool, I'm going to have a fucking great steak. I've been on tour for so long. I'm going to have steak and chips. And they're going to give me whatever I fucking want want and lychee martinis on tap till the fucking end of time it's gonna be wicked but as I say so we pull up right we get into the site I'm like all right cool just like I'm thought going to a restaurant it's like six greenhouses but all right have you seen that film Midsommar yes yeah I mean so I'm walking up and it's like you're quite

smiling everyone's like very fucking viking and very like hello sir welcome to noma where your pleasures will be i don't know and i'm like all right nice like i'm dry in norfolk i'm like all right nice to meet you fucking great so walk into noma and i'm just like cool this is a bit fucking weird in it and everyone's like i'm so excited i'm like same i can't wait to have this steak and chips and it's gonna be fucking great it's like, would you like this drink of the river to cleanse your palate? I'm like, yeah, I'll have a taste of that. It's pretty fucking weird, too.

And you kind of stop staring at me for two minutes. You know what I mean? I'm like, stop looking at me. I want to, like, chill. So they take us to our table, and in Noma, it's like you have your own little living room, and there's a fire. And I'm like, okay, cool, all right, sick. We're going to sit down,oma it's like you have your own little living room and there's a fire and I'm like okay cool all right sick we're gonna sit down and it's gonna be great so the waitress comes just like again welcome to Noma and it's like some fucking like I've gone to live with

Hare Krishnas in Thailand or something you know I mean I'm like fucking great and it's like okay can I have a pint of lager and a steak and chips please and she's got she's like she's like the bring the drinks out and she starts pouring me this drink I'm like sorry and I can I have a pint of can I have a pint of lager she's like we don't do lager sir I'm like okay right do you have any like beer or anything it's like no sir I'm like yeah I mean but that's fine I'm just like I know I mean no they should have beer right lager and I'm like and I'm like, all right. You're a den mom. Yeah, I mean, but that's fine. I'm just like, I mean. No, they should have beer, right? I have a beer. And I'm like, do you have anything?

Do you have a glass of Prosecco? No, sir. Do you have a gin and tonic? No, sir. I'm like, what do you have? And she's like, well, we have the fruits of the forest. Like, shit. She's pouring me.

And I'm drinking this raspberry elderflower and fucking fox tail fucking drink. Was it alcohol? Yeah, it was alcoholic, right? And I'm drinking it and I'm like, okay, cool. But it's not what you wanted. No, it's not. It's what I'm saying to you. It's like, it's not what I wanted.

So it's like, all right, cool. And I'm like, where's the menus? And Jess is laughing at me because she's just brought fucking Devo meets Liam Gallagher into a fucking Scandinavian seance. You know what I mean? And everyone's like bringing in the light and blessing the forest. And it's game season, right?

It's game season. And everyone's laughing at me. And Tom, my photographer, is quite a foodie and a bit pretentious. I love him. He's a pretentious cunt. Then there's Ed, who works at my label, who was somehow out in Denmark.

I don't know why. And then Jess next to me. You wanted to go to Noma. I knew you were paying. That's what I'm saying. So it's like, we're in Noma and we're eating and it's like the first dish comes out and I'm like, I'm like just turning hysterically,

like where's the fucking menus? Like where's the menus? I'm not, I'm like really, and I'm anxious because everyone's like, there's a person in the corner of the room looking straight forward. Like not even like vibing just like holding a connection holding a bottle of water and looking straight forward i'm like it literally looks like a prosthetic doll like standing there it's a bit midsummer very midsummer

it's like when the when am i gonna get my bollocks cut off you know i'm in front of me and then i'm sat there and the food comes out and the first thing comes out and it's like an acorn on a plate. Right. And it's like, I'm looking at this acorn. I'm like, all right, cool. Like everyone's like weird. It must be just like some hippie shit before they bring out like the menu. Your dinner.

My dinner. Yeah. My big, nice steak. I mean, my big, nice dinner that I'm paying 700 quid for. And they do the acorn and I'm like okay right I'll nibble on this acorn and everyone's just laughing at me was the acorn in anything? no it was just a fucking acorn

I don't know like do you know what I mean it's an acorn you could eat acorn and it's like glazed in fucking like molasses made from like Jesus Christ do you know what I mean and and

and every like Jess is like wanted to come to Noma but she's made from like Jesus Christ. You know what I mean? And, and, and, and, and every, like Jess is like, wanted to come to Noma, but she's regretting it already. Because you're, because no,

no, she's not regretting it because of me, because now I find out that she is unadventurous with food. So I'm like, okay, fine. All right. Fuck,

you know, you don't want to eat your acorn. That's a 70 quid acorn that you just, just turned away. Like I've turned mine away and i'm sat down it's like cool cool um is there any menus coming out it's like the chef has decided what you're eating tonight sir and i'm like as i say like i don't like being told what to do no it's very intimidating like i see i love that but they go we've created

yeah and i'm just like all right like is like is there going to be any like meat and shit like oh yes sir yes we use every part of our animals and I get it because it's like

good and it's good and sorry to sorry to any of the vegan fans out there I mean but this was just Noma

and then they bring out duck's brain no they didn't in front of me like no duck like gland from the brain and i'm like and i'm like like looking at the waitress like i'm like helpless like i'm like imagine me walking through the desert for seven days without water and i see you and i'm like do you have any

water i'm like do you have any fucking thing normal for me do you have anything possibly normal and then the main event comes out and it's like our good old friend donald duck but this time it's the face of of the duck like the face right like and it's and i'm sat there and donald duck is looking at me in the face going don't eat me don't eat me because my child is me, because my child is across... And you've been on the Disney channel. Yeah, that's what I'm saying to you, right? So I'm looking at fucking Donald Duck right now, and then I'm like, okay, why is there ducks? Like, I'm not going to eat a beak.

It's not even cooked. And then one of the Midsommar characters walks around the corner and lifts up the duck's head. Oh, my God, this is like Indiana Temple of Doom. It's a Temple of fucking Doom shit, right? And people pay 700 quid each for this, right? I would not do that. That's what I'm saying.

So it's like lifted off, lifted off, and it's like inside the head is duck's heart ta-ta. Right? And Jess is laughing now because she's not eating anything either.

She's like not eating absolutely nothing. I would actually vomit. That's what I'm saying. Like Tom, my pretentious photographer, is fucking eating everyone's fucking food and i'm like i hope you're i like you're not getting a fucking birthday present

this year and it was small portions small portions right and then like after that we have a palate cleanser and it's peppermint ice cream and i was like fuck yeah all right i'm into this best peppermint ice cream in my life and in theory i paid two and a half grand for peppermint ice cream and then went for a Chinese afterwards. I had someone call. I was like, it's 11 p.m. I need you to find me a Chinese takeaway. And I'm pretty placid, but I was pissed off. You know what I mean?

I was like. I hate pretension. It was. I mean, and it was fine. I'm sorry, Jessie. Look, I'm so desperate to go. This is the best entertainment. Do you know what?

Not in a bad way. Not in a bad way. Not in a bad way, right? Like, with it, yeah, great. If you're into that shit. But I'm from, like, I'm from Donny, man. You know what I mean? I just wanted a pint of lager and some steaks. But I go to a nice restaurant.

Do you know what I mean? If you go to Chilton Firehouse on a Friday night, I'm like, I'll have the cheapest lager you got. Do you know what I mean? I just see who I am. And I love good food, and I love it. But I just like good, like, you know what I mean? just see who I am and I love good food and I love it but I just like good like

you know what I mean I don't like all the bells and whistles I'm really worried about the cake I'm into the cake just so I explain to you Dom

I don't have a kitchen at the moment so I have this really mini oven that it can roast a chicken and it can bake a cake but the timings

are a bit off so fuck knows if it's worked. But, I mean, it's sweet. But, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't mind. It's all right, because if this cake's shy, on the next podcast, if someone else I do, I'll be telling the Noma story, are you?

No! I can't actually believe that Youngblood shat on Noma so much. An unbelievable waste, him going to Noma. I'm dying to go there. And to be honest, he hasn't put me off, even though it sounds like a kind of pagan ceremony. From one charismatic northerner to another, here is my first love, Robbie Williams, who we spoke to via Zoom at the end of the last year,

which actually probably was the best for him because otherwise I may have cried in front of him or pounced him. I don't know. He reveals something that he'd never spoken about in public before. What's your favourite sort of food? Well, my go to, it's always like takeaway food, right? Are you the same with food? I mean, I'll eat. I cook a lot. So if we weren't in lockdown, I definitely would have forced you to come to my house

and eat chicken soup and matzo balls. I would absolutely love that. That's a date, by the way. We'll do that. Definitely, darling darling i'll definitely make it for you i i eat incredibly healthily and i'm a big believer in fitness and well-being but my go-to if i was going to splash the calories out would be a sweet and sour chicken with special fried rice. And then I would have a balty, lamb balty. Right.

Love lamb balty. Lamb balty done properly. Because here's what you guys don't know, right? You guys don't know that you don't have a decent curry house down south. Well, you certainly don't have one in Los Angeles, do you, Rob? Shite. No, actually. No, no, they are shite. They are shite in Los Angeles, do you, Rob? Shite. No, actually. No, no, they are shite.

They are shite in Los Angeles. Dreadful. But a northern curry is probably the best curry on the planet. And that would be lamb bulti. And then these nams the size of, I don't know. Your head. Shallows. Yeah, just huge nam breads.

Like, this is way too much, but I'll take some home and then we'll eat it during the week. So, yeah, those two things, lamb bulti and sweet and sour chicken. Being in a boy band at such a young age, I'm sure you were eating shit because we've had a few of the Spice Girls on and they were like, we literally were just eating packets of crisps and pot noodles. But I just wanted to know,

is there any really memorable food moment? Take that all beyond being, you know, an international superstar, pop star individual. But are there, because you were doing this like when there was loads of money in the industry and they probably spent lots, took you out, wined and dined you that shit doesn't happen anymore Robbie oh yeah when we were kings yeah yeah when we were

kings I was the last the last of my kind from when we were kings anyway early days of take that we used to do this thing called king nan and basically you would get points so if you had a far you would get points. So if you had a far, you would get six points. If you had a vindaloo, you get five points. If you have madras, you get four points. And then it went all the way down to a korma. But you had to finish your dish, right? And then as the month, the couple months went on, who had the most points then became king nan and what we did was we um we got a nam bread and then we uh put stuff around it and and a chain around it and you wore it at your you wore it at dinner time and and you were king Nam and whatever you wanted, everybody had to do. God, you're mad.

Are you taking the piss? No, I'm not taking the piss. And is that when you realised that you had to leave the band? I haven't spoken about King Nam for, since, at all, in public, at all. That's the first time, right? And as the words were leaving my lips, was like this is mental what i'm saying but it's true so what would you command them to do i never was king nam because i couldn't i couldn't stomach a fall he couldn't take his heat who was king nam it was always jason or howard

and basically what they would do is like they would have a far, which is hotter than a vindaloo. And then if the points were close, they'd order another far and eat that dish too. How did they all look so ripped and fantastic when they were just eating curry after curry? Babe, honestly, we were dancing. We were dancing for seven hours a day. That's the key, Jess. Oh my God, That is hysterical. Yeah.

So then you'd wear this non-gold chain, non-bread round your... Yeah, and what do you do to, like, stuff to make it not crumble? You varnish it. Yeah, we'd varnish a nan. No, you didn't. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. This is so weird.

Did you frame any of these nan breads? No, they were never framed. But you had to call the person King Nan as well when you talked to them. Who thought of this game? We all came up with it combined, you know, but it's a bit like Lord of the Flies, isn't it? You heard it here first, Table Manners listeners. King Nan, take that, exclusive.

It's amazing what you find out about people when you quiz them about food. Fans of the podcast will know that I loved Robbie Williams when I was growing up and I cried when I went to see Take That in concert. Well the other person that I adored was Kylie Minogue who was my first ever concert when I was six years old. So you can imagine how excited we were when she came over to mum's for dinner last autumn. God we had a really like jam-packed like stellar selection of people in autumn last year here's me confessing to her quite how much of a fan i was so i also had just to add to my fanatic kylie face we had the uh vhs of you that was kylie was it like kylie on the go or something that it was Kylie and you were playing the piano

I did learn the piano yeah and you had the most amazing Mozart-esque sleeved do you remember it it was a blouse it was white and you were there at the piano you were like oh hey you didn't catch oh sorry I'm just playing something

and we'd watch it in this room and the TV used to be here and we'd watch it and you'd be playing TV used to be here and we'd watch it and you'd be playing the piano and it was like with a lot of sleeve and I've always dreamed about this blouse. That was probably like my prince fantasy. Yes, that would make sense.

It was like very, yes. I think I remember, I might have had, oh, this is really challenging me now. Maybe a little waistcoat, like a vest with it. Yeah, yeah, and there and probably massive earrings we and you had curly hair yes yeah and and we kind of got like an embroidered waistcoat yeah jesse thinks that the neighbors theme tune was her white noise because when they were born they were i'd listen

to it i'd watch it when i was pregnant and then when they were born, they were, I'd listen to it. She's always on. I'd watch it when I was pregnant. And then when they were born, we always had neighbours on. So that was like, was that like with Des and Daphne? Yeah. I had the Daphne hair. The half up, half down. And then the ponytail. She used to do that a lot too.

She had a double ponytail. What did she die of? We can't remember. Or in birth. It was the saddest episode. We absolutely sobbed. Did she die in childbirth? But Des was left.

Did you just have nothing else on that you were feeling nervous about? Des was desolate. No. Des was desolate. Desolate. But it was on twice a day. Yeah, it was on. So you could then just cry all over again.

Yeah. It was like the archers. They did it was on... So you could then just cry all over again. Yeah. It was like the Archers. They did a repeat later. Des was desolate. No, it's private. Des was desolate. And Daphne's hair. And I remember I used to say to you,

how would you like your hair? And you'd say, like Daphne. She managed to get a lot of looks out of very short hair. Oh, God. She was a good woman, Gaffney. Was she a hairdresser? I don't know. She was an ex-stripper.

That was the scandal, the scandal. She worked in the cafe, no, the diner. She started the cafe. It was so scandalous. That was this cafe. From her stripper money? I don't know. Presumably, if that was part of her past.

Guy Pearce was your best friend? He was one of the gang yeah and i worked with him three years ago we played husband and wife in this australian comedy film that's set in the 70s so i mean he looks really good with the the tash and the lamb chops and all of that yeah i've had such a great time oh thank you will. Thank you. Will this seal the deal when I tell you, I forgot to tell you that we have a guinea pig called Kylie and a guinea pig called Jason as well? Oh, yeah, I forgot.

Kylie and Jason. I've had to step away. I don't want to make it up. I thought I heard it all. I've now heard it all. We're going to now break your kneecaps and you're going to lie upstairs and you're going to teach us these spinning around dance.

You're never going anywhere. We are. Kathy Bates. That was amazing having Kylie over. Rest assured, we did let the pop princess leave. I didn't break her kneecaps, her ankles. She is not still in my mother's bedroom writing new lyrics for Hand on Your Heart. Don't worry.

So to end this episode of extra helpings is the gorgeous lydia west we fell in love with lydia when watching the brilliant it's a sin earlier this year if you haven't seen it you must watch it it's russell t davies incredible series about the aids pandemic and it stars another table manners alumni, the lovely Olly Alexander, who played Richie. And Lydia played Richie's best friend, Jill. Here she is telling us what her last supper would consist of. So my starter would have to be, so I'm obsessed with buffalo wings. Like obsessed.

And anywhere I go, I have to kind of try the buffalo wings. And the best place where I found buffalo wings is this amazing restaurant in it's not amazing but it's a good right it's a nice it's good for wings good for wings it's called chicks and chicken sours and it's in haggis oh chicken sours yeah yeah yeah yeah and i haven't tried their wings oh they're buffalo wings i used to live in dalston and i would all i'd have their takeaway every friday night but i've moved, but my flatmate still lives there. And I go to her house to have the takeaway. She's like, okay, you coming to see me or are you coming for chicken sours?

And so I'd have a hot buffalo wings with like a blue cheese dip. I love that. Yeah. No one's ever chosen that. No one. And I understand, it's like, it's just so good. That kind of vinegary, salty, just goodness. So that would be my starter.

My main would be... I think I'd have to go for... I know everyone says a roast dinner, but it's just so good. It is the best. Like a lamb roast or a lamb shank even and what is so special about is it your mum's roast dinner that you're choosing or is it my granny's oh your granny's okay so what would she do that was so special i think just the potatoes and goose fat and like irish potatoes in goose fat and red cabbage with currants in them too i don't know how she but they're also quite salty and i don't know what she does to make it so like it's almost like a vinaigrette kind of in them which is really nice um what

else does she have in her roast cauliflower cheese triple trees cauliflower cheese triple cheese yeah i love that and then just a lamb with homemade mint sauce oh wow she was a good cook man she's really good cook she is and she's still alive she is still alive oh that's amazing she's young jesse you're young granny's still here she still bakes for us and yeah she but my granny's the kind of person who like no food can compare to hers like if i say like oh i cooked a meal she has no interest in like in anything but her own her own cooking because she just doesn't trust that we could ever make anything that we'd enjoy she's so funny so even i make like a banana bread and i don't really bake but in lockdown i became a banana bread breaker and i was like granny even i make like a banana bread and i don't really bake but in lockdown i became

a banana bread bread breaker and i was like granny i'll make you a banana bread and i'll bring it to your house and she's like no no i don't like that and i was like oh quick granny granny you haven't tried my banana bread saying i don't like banana bread at all okay fine so what's her bake that she does that it's like the one that is it the brat no it's the brats not my favorite it would have to be the uh pineapple upside down cake oh i've never tried making that no i might have a go oh my gosh it's so good do you think tinned pineapple she uses tinned pineapple yeah yeah she uses it and it's so, I think because it's so sweet and juicy. And what do you have it with, custard or ice cream? Custard.

I'm going to make it this weekend. Can you make it gluten free, Mum? No. Okay. Anyway. Okay, so we've got Granny's Rose. And are you drinking Guinness with all of Granny's Rose? No, I don't like Guinness.

I'm not a massive drinker. Tell you what I'm obsessed with at the moment. Sparkling Moscato. I'm obsessed a massive drinker tell you what I'm obsessed with at the moment sparkling moscato I'm obsessed with sparkling rosé and or like rosé champagne oh yeah oh yeah do you like alcohol-free rosé? love it

right so Marks and Spencer's do a really good one called Frizzero is it their pink? yeah I've tried it it's so good that's better than their white one it's so good than their their white one it's in the fridge what was that shite you got me then that bloody cabernet fake i mean it's disgusting alcohol no but i've got an alcohol-free rose frizzero there you can take it home if you

want it's lovely yeah it's lovely and that's why i think i like the sparkling moscato at the moment because it's literally just sugar. I love it. It's so sparkly and just bubbly. Which leads us on to your pudding. So I don't know. Upside down cake. No, but she may have not chosen her granny's upside down cake for her last meal.

For my last meal ever, I really enjoyed cookie dough, like warm cookie dough when it's not yet formed the cookie so it's like stodgy and just like gooey and then with a scoop of ice cream maybe like butterscotch ice cream so you're making your own cookie dough i'm not making my own i'm ordering it from pizza hut how do you do that so pizza hut have this warm cookie dough filthy i love this it's filthy it's so filthy you can order warm cookie dough what you intend to make cookies with but you don't make the cookies with or is it just a thing no so they they half bake they half bake it so it's almost like the cookie is finished but then they take it out of the oven 10 minutes early

are you supposed to finish it off when you get it home or, but then they take it out of the oven 10 minutes early. Are you supposed to finish it off when you get it home? No, you're supposed to eat it as the dough, as the warm dough. I don't know anyone who still orders Pizza Hut, but I feel like you're the person that's keeping them alive, Lydia. And you have to order two. And I don't actually like their pizza. I prefer Domino's.

If I'm having like bad pizza, I'd rather have Domino'sinoes but the cookie dough you have to order two to get it above I think nine pounds oh my god you'll literally just order pizza heart cookie dough to get it so I yeah yeah this is a great bit of intel it was an absolute treat to have the darling Lydia on podcast, who not only was she lovely, but she shared that gem of knowledge about ordering cookie dough from Pizza Hut, which actually I've now seen on Deliveroo. It's a whole thing, which I still need to order. And also she was very good with her lighting too. She taught us a few things, tricks about a good light on Zoom.

That is it for this episode of second helpings so hard to choose as we've had so many amazing guests over the last year but thank you so much for listening and i'll be back next week with some more extra helpings Thank you.