Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S13 Ep 7: Diplo

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

This week we welcome American DJ & superstar record producer Diplo to Clapham. We talk all about him growing up in Florida, eating endless amounts of shrimp, growing his own Avocados, eating ...canned food as a child & how to make the most of an all-you-can-eat buffet. Chatting over a delicious cheese & charcuterie board (to be discussed in the pod!) Diplo even treated us to a potentially Grammy award winning Table Manners rap… enjoy! X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Table Runners. I'm Jessie Ware and I am hungry. Are you darling? Yeah, this is an odd time to be eating. Oh, it's a very odd time. I'm all at sixes and sevens. I know. Well, particularly as our guest doesn't usually eat at this time, so I'm a bit worried he's not going to be able to eat our dinner. He might not be able to eat anything, Jessie. Well, more for us. And I am famished, so there we go.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Who have we got on today, Mum? Well, all I know, I must be the best customer at McFarlane's today. What's McFarlane's? The cheese shop on Abbeville Road. They sell wonderful cheeses. And we're very helpful about trying to get the exact cheese that our guest wants. I don't think Diplo actually understands what he's about to do. Otherwise, he wouldn't have sent us his nutritionist's rider for him,
Starting point is 00:00:52 which is obviously what he has when he's backstage. I just want to know one thing. How does he eat one pound to one and a half pounds of meat? Juicy meat, Mum. Juicy meat every day for lunch. Well, we shall ask him on the podcast because he has... what I can only imagine is the keto diet that he is doing. So all the dusty knuckle sourdough for us instead. Anyway, we have the international massive, brilliant Diplo.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Who won the world, girls? Who won the world, girls? It's not won. Who what? Run. Who won the world, girls? Who won the world, girls? It's not won. Who what? Run. Who runs... Who run the world? Oh, God, if we had a few girls instead of Putin in charge,
Starting point is 00:01:34 we wouldn't be in this mess, would we? I mean, Diplo, I feel like everyone knows who Diplo is, but if you don't, he's a massive DJ, massive producer, produced songs like Who Run The World, Girls, Beyonce. I used to go and watch him DJ. He's had his own solo records. He's worked with Justin Bieber.
Starting point is 00:01:53 He has his own thing with Mark Ronson called Silk City. So does he produce things as well? Yeah. He's a massive producer, Mum. See, I think of a DJ, a disc jockey. Wow. Like Tony Blackburn producer mum see i think of a dj a disc jockey wow like tony blackburn and you put records on the turntable i don't think like your sam used to do and like my sam used to dj once on the decks um no where's and tony blackburn i think they're slightly different was tony blackburn such a sex
Starting point is 00:02:22 god no yeah not at all but he was one of the, I think, the first DJ. I mean, I think we can safely say, if you go to Diplo's Instagram page, Mother, you will find a thirsty pic or two. I know, he has got green hair. Well, that's not the first thing that was springing to mind when I was looking at him walking out of an ocean in Costa Rica. Well, his body is his temple.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. Well, maybe I should be eating hard cheeses and drunken goat's cheese and fatty meats and I will look like Diplo because I just tucked into the dusty apples. I don't know how his body copes with that, though. So, yeah, he's coming over. Maybe he's DJing tonight.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Alex is, Dr Alex is going out for a fundraiser for Ukraine. Proper out now. Blessed Madonna's playing, hot chip. Not Madonna. No, she's called Blessed Madonna and she's a DJ. No, anyway. So yes, lots going on. Maybe Diplo's playing a gig tonight.
Starting point is 00:03:20 But in the meantime, he's coming for a plate of cured meats and cheeses. Wes, Diplo, you've been told the shtick of what this is about. What's the matter? You look worried, Mum. I was... Give him a drink. I'll just drink the water, the sparkling water. Just water? Yeah. You need to enable my mother. Oh tea maybe yes oh that is he's not getting he's not okay what is it come on come on he doesn't want to drink he was a dj i thought you were gonna be sniffing lines of bloody aged gouda it's a little early okay so it's just you can't... Oh, maybe some wine. We've got cheese. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Oh, let's do that. We'll have some wine, darling. It's not too early for wine? No? No, it's just about... What time is it? Yeah, it's wine o'clock. Wine o'clock.
Starting point is 00:04:15 There we go. Now we're cooking. Do you want white or red, darling? Oh, red, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Get the Santa lamb out, darling. Get the Santa lamb out.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Usually, so what we do... Usually, I'll cook you dinner. Usually, so what we do... Usually I'd have cooked you dinner. Usually we kind of cook properly, so because it was a bit of a funny time to be doing it, it's... This is a really beautiful charcuterie board, though. I'm really going to have to say... Good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It's quite a lovely... And that's your aged... So can we just talk about this drunken goat? Okay. That is drunken goat. So mum had some assumptions. It was on the list. No, but there was a little bit of judgment going on.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Because we usually go, is there any dietary requirements? And they say, oh, sorry, I'm gluten intolerant. You go, okay, no problem. Or, sorry, yeah, I'm vegetarian. Okay, we got a list. I tend to eat two meals a day between one twelve and one okay so we have a meal that's one to one and a half pounds of juicy fatty meat so we're going to do steak meat is usually beef lamb or pork sometimes shellfish or fish rarely chicken I mean we basically got your rider.
Starting point is 00:05:25 First of all, that's not even my list. I don't eat shellfish. Oh, do we get bloody lists then? Here's what happened. I have an assistant that's like very thorough. And she left. She left. Yeah, she went to the car show.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Ask the new assistant, guys. No, because what happened was that. Cheese's make great snacks as well. Thank you for informing us. I love drunken goat four year aged gouda she copied and pasted this from another guy that's like so i i called a guy on the way here oh my word and he's like a so i was trying to do the carnivore diet for this year and i've been kind of meaning like keto kind of like keto but i can really like it's like just this majority
Starting point is 00:06:00 meat not really much vegetables at all like just a lot of like feeling with it in the beginning i felt kind of sick but it's really good for my energy and my lack of sleep i've actually like probably the best diet i've done that like works in my body so i'm always trying different things right anyway on the way out i'm like look i'm going to europe for a while this guy my doctor said talk to this guy he like wrote a book about it and he was like all these cheats like oh go to if you have to go to mcdonald's and get like four of the burger stacks and just do the like i know bun and like it's not like a mcdonald's i don't but i've had a lot of burgers here because they're good i'm eating meat anyway that's literally copying paste because it was like
Starting point is 00:06:34 the cheese because it was like too specific and they were took like i was like hey you guys have a whole team on the road can we try to do like a diet that makes can we try to adhere to it and they're honestly i haven't done it because i've been like going Out on dinners every night, and it's a little bit under seating the steak that I'd order or whatever So this is like the guys are totally the guys like opinion like what cheese Well, we got you all the fucking cheese. Well now I can try it I can tell the guy but literally the funny thing is it says I like this. That's him. Yeah best being copy and pasted But here's the thing on like the thing is if anybody cooks for me i'll eat everything oh you're bloody kidding i swear to god i would i would have done
Starting point is 00:07:11 i would be anything you made because i'd like when people cook even when i was vegetarian for a while i ate meat whenever pretty cooked for me because i was like and i don't even drink but you want to drink wine with me i'll drink with you guys i'm my i'm by myself i'm gonna try to do this because i control the situation but if i'm with somebody i will do whatever they do it's hard though isn't it because like how many like can i just tell you that costs 35 pounds we're gonna we're gonna eat don't worry i'll eat all of it i will go i will be the bathroom all night long that's very that's very uncouth i never even heard of it let's well let me get some of it let's try it out so anyway basically you have all the things that your mate,
Starting point is 00:07:47 the doctor that you've ever met, likes. And we can report, he's eating bread. He's going for the bread. I like bread. I like bread. These are made from potatoes. Okay, let me try those. Because I thought you were gluten free.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Let's try those. I just really like bread. Okay. This bread is the best bread. It's Dusty Knuckle. They're a bakery in East London. And it's the best bread in the world. And it's a potato sourdough, and they are the greatest.
Starting point is 00:08:10 That's chicken liver parfait. Did you make it? Yeah. I'll eat that. Did you? Yeah. Did you? I made it yesterday.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's made with... It's a lot. It's made with... Oh, it's... Let's see what you think. Oh, God, this is quite stressful for you. So what's the green hair about? Like, why not do the green hair?
Starting point is 00:08:26 No, it looks great. I'm wearing a hat, you can see it. So why did you choose green? Is it blue or green? I don't know. It's turquoise. Well, today I lightened it up because I did it like two weeks ago. And what the bottle says is called washed up mermaid. So that's the color.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Oh, it is actually. It was from Boots actually. So that's where I got it. Is your hair white to start with? Or did you bleach it out to be able to pretty blonde it's like okay but I did bleach it well how is that that's good though why do you need it warm? Do you like your parfait a bit more warm? Yeah, can you warm the parfait up? Well, listen, like, yeah. So, okay, you've been in London, you've been in Paris, you've been in Barcelona, you've been in Copenhagen, you've been everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You're going to Las Vegas tomorrow. Uh-huh. I mean... And San Diego tomorrow night. Oh, my God. Straight London, Vegas, San Diego. And then I'm driving to Malibu afterwards so I can sleep in my own house.
Starting point is 00:09:25 So you live in Malibu? Mm-hmm. How's that? It's the best. My God, it's the best place ever. You guys should do this again at my house and you can cook at my house. Yeah, okay. Interview somebody else.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Interview somebody. We'll do Benny. He's been at my house. I'm staying at his place. We'll do dinner at my house. And Benny, he's been at my house. He loves it. He lives in Malibu too, but I live in a much more enormous house with way cooler stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I have a turtle. Who's your neighbor? I have a couple neighbors. My neighbor to the right, which I've never met, but the first day my friends met him, he is the guy with the curly hair from Home Alone that kidnapped, that was trying to kidnap Macaulay Culkin. God, he did well out of that film.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I think with the royalties, he did like three of them, I think he probably was able to do the deal, right, separately. I can believe it just for him behind me the guy that owns the house we don't know his name but we
Starting point is 00:10:09 his name was Marley behind my house I have a big valley behind my house is the guy that the drummer of U2 I don't know his name either
Starting point is 00:10:17 he's not the Edge is he no the Edge and Bono they own all this property in Malibu though apparently they like they like own everything so why is Malibu
Starting point is 00:10:25 so fabulous to be well I would never have bought a house that's like I really spent a lot of money on the house
Starting point is 00:10:31 and I never had like a really nice place to live but I was like in the hills and I was like I had this my children live
Starting point is 00:10:37 at their mother's house in those feelers and I just was like I needed to like get out of Hollywood Hills like I needed to like go somewhere I had this like
Starting point is 00:10:44 view of the Hollywood you know all those hills houses you have like a view of Hollywood but it's like it's kind of like a bachelor place Hollywood Hills like I needed to like go somewhere I had this like view of the Hollywood you know all those Hills houses you have like a view of Hollywood but it's like it's kind of like a bachelor party
Starting point is 00:10:48 it's just lame I don't really need that view of like Hollywood with no yard I want to like I surf a lot and I want to be on the beach so
Starting point is 00:10:54 are you on the beach? I'm on it's a neighborhood it's a neighborhood called Pointe du and it's like a peninsula that has like
Starting point is 00:11:01 it's own private beach and it's a surfing beach so everybody has like access because it's like cliff sides and on the cliffs on the edge of cliffs just like a giant drop and that's the ocean and the beach underneath it good surfing yeah it's the best surfing in in la apparently wow so i moved to it so i changed i had like a big life change during covid where i was like i need to buy a place because i need my kids place to play and
Starting point is 00:11:20 it was like your kids now i have three now it's there 11 7 and a little baby's turning 2 so and and so they love it the crackers expensive charcoal that was those try those ones yeah this is kind of like this is like the writer they literally gave you cuz I I'm like a DJ. So they literally gave you like, like it looks like a DJ writer. Like what would I have backstage? A nice club.
Starting point is 00:11:51 We did want to send them back. I would have totally ate everything, anything gladly you would have made. I can make an omelet with you guys and stuff if you want. You're very sweet, but now you're just going to have to eat all the cheese and feel a bit shit later on your DJ set. Yeah, I might have a little stomach problem, but it's all, but for you're just going to have to eat all the cheese and feel a bit shit later on your DJ set.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah, I might have a little stomach problem, but for you guys, I'll do it. Oh, look at him, such a gem. See, don't you just love him now after searching high and low for the truffled goat's cheese? This is going to be good, though. That's truffled gouda. Oh, Mom, I think he wanted the truffled goat's cheese. Where's the drunken goat?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Where's the drunken goat? That's the drunken goat. Okay, that's the one I'm having. And that's cheddar. Is it okay to put the pate on this cracker? Yeah. And then the ham? Mum, you've got matzo.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Have you got matzo? I don't know what that is. Okay, no, don't worry. Anyway, so, Wes, this podcast, we talk about food. Yeah. And we talk about growing up around food and what you were eating. So you grew up in your florida yeah how was it being from a floridian um are you called a floridian yeah how what was it like
Starting point is 00:12:53 it's from the the floridians that i know a friend of mine who's a songwriter called do you know coffee yeah parents coffee do you know and um also um you know priscilla renee no no she's a big R&B songwriter Uffy is from Miami yeah so what's it like they've kind of always been like
Starting point is 00:13:10 they all say it's a bit it's a funny place yeah well if you if you think about Florida and you think about like the whatever the
Starting point is 00:13:17 the nature of the culture of the place you're talking to people from Miami usually because that's like majority and that's not really Florida that's like Miami and Miami is an amazing place I lived there when I was really young
Starting point is 00:13:27 I lived in Fort Lauderdale and I attribute like a lot of my success in the world to like the diversity that was in Miami area like my neighborhood was like but when I grew up in Miami area like my neighborhood was like I didn't know
Starting point is 00:13:44 the difference between why people live together. I went to like 20 bar mitzvahs. I went to like dance hall parties. My neighbors were Jamaican and they were Haitian. They were Cuban. They were Jewish. They were like white kids.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And it was like, I grew up in this beautiful utopian place where everybody just did things. They went to parties together. And it was like whoever could afford a house for $40,000 lived next to each other. It was like an amazing, place to grow up, but my family is from Daytona Beach area, which is like not very cool It's in the car driving. Yeah famous for spring break motorcycle gangs and um NASCAR so NASCAR is like the American version of f1. We're just doing a circle But so big the stadium there is the biggest place.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Like 250,000 people go see the races there. But it's a very broke place now. Anyway, the culinary part of it that really relates to Florida is my father owns a bait shop. So he catches shrimp for a living and he sells the big balls of shrimp to people as bait. You can't really even eat them. But we did. And my uncle actually went to jail because he did something called bootlegging shrimp, which means you buy it because you catch the shrimp and you don't like...
Starting point is 00:14:53 For some reason, you can only sell the shrimp from the Gulf of Mexico to restaurants. The shrimp you catch on the East Coast waterways has something wrong with it or it's not regulated so that you can't sell it to eat. You only sell it for bait. My uncle used to sell it to Chinese restaurants anyway, and he got caught. What happened to him? His name was Purvis.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He went to jail, but he died like 10 years ago. Did anyone die of it? Of the shrimp? Yeah. No, I don't really know if it was sick shrimp, or they just didn't have a way to regulate them, taxes or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:19 but you can't sell. You also can't cut the oysters from the seabed there, because it's like a preserve, and they kind of keep it. So he used to do that too. Is Daytona here? Purvis? Purvis was his name. Is it on the east or the west?
Starting point is 00:15:33 They live on the east coast. The west coast is like Tampa. That's where you can buy and sell shrimp. No, but I've been to Sanibel Island and Naples. Yeah, that's the west coast. Is that where you... No, they're on the opposite side. Oh, they're on this side. That's the Tampa area. Is that where you, is that? No, they're on the opposite side. Oh, they're on this side.
Starting point is 00:15:46 That's the Tampa area. So, who did you grow up with? My mom and dad. And your brothers? Okay, how many sisters? That's your sisters. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And what was, who was cooking? Oh, nobody really. That's your age gouda. I'm going to try it. Your age gouda. He's never ever had it. Don't, I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This is ridiculous. Isn't it nice to try it for things for the first time? Yeah, true. That's such a Benny Blanco thing to say't, I mean, you know. This is ridiculous. Isn't it nice to try things for the first time? Yeah, true. That's such a Benny Blanco thing to say too, just to switch it around. How is Benny? He's great. When did you see him?
Starting point is 00:16:11 He's really fit now. I know. What do you mean? Has he got a girlfriend? I think he's auditioning a few. Yeah. He's not really, he's like kind of like, he's just. Open it.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He's like another level. He's just happy. He's happy Benny. He's not really doing, in the rat race of production, he's just, he's like another level. He's just happy. He's happy, Benny. He's not really doing, in the rat race of production, he's kind of like just doing whatever he wants and like loving it. What is that? What's chutney? I thought it was like jelly.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Do you like it? I will. I will like it a lot. You're such a, can I just say something? You have the most beautiful voice. Oh, really? I think I've ever heard. It's absolutely like Velvet.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's like... Have you ever thought about doing a podcast, Wes? I haven't, but I will. It's like listening to Bailey's Irish Cream. Mum, you're just swooning over him. Everyone loves Diplo. He's an international heartthrob. So what's your
Starting point is 00:17:03 favourite song at the moment? Oh, it's going to probably be one of my songs. Go on, tell me. Oh yeah an international heartthrob. So what's your favourite song at the moment? Oh, it's going to probably be one of my songs. Go on, tell me. Oh yeah, from that new album of yours. They have a new album. So I think the Miguel song, it's called Don't Forget My Love. If you love Miguel. If you like my voice, wait till you hear his voice.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I've sung with him. On your thing? Yeah. He has a good voice. Such a great voice. Such a great writer. Who else is on the record Leon Bridges oh
Starting point is 00:17:28 come on what a good voice there's a band from Denmark called Who Made Who you haven't heard of them but they're pretty cool when you were in you were just in
Starting point is 00:17:36 Copenhagen were you going to see them or were you eating were you eating at Noma no and I don't this is an embarrassing story but I want to tell you guys
Starting point is 00:17:44 a story please do I did tell my assistant like oh let's go to Noma I think in And I don't, this is an embarrassing story, but I want to tell you guys the story. Please do. I did tell my assistant like, oh, let's go to Noma. I think in passing because I really wanted to go there. Yeah. I've never been.
Starting point is 00:17:51 We forgot. Things got caught up. And on the last, like a couple, like five o'clock before my show, he's like, oh, this looks like a good place. The promoter invited us to this dinner.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And so it was like, the menu was in Danish. I don't know why he thought it was good. Anyway, the page looked good on Instagram. We get there. There's a photographer taking photos of every table. They sit me in the middle of my crew.
Starting point is 00:18:10 There's like sparklers. People ordering oysters and there's like sparklers going. It was like a VIP service. It was a nightmare. We sat down. I sat there for 10 seconds. I was like, I got to leave. I got presented on the phone.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Stressful. I walked out. I just like, I could never eat a place like that. I felt bad, but it was like the worst experience to eat dinner ever. So you didn't even get to eat the food? No, we ended up going to like some steakhouse that sat us like at like the latest, it was like 10 o'clock. Impossible in Denmark to find a place to eat.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Everything's shut at night. So these guys were really nice. They were fans of mine. They let us eat steak. And we had like, cause apparently Copenhagen has the best restaurants in Europe. That's what I've heard. Like per capita, like so many great places. so are you a foodie not really I'd eat I'd like food but just hanging out with people that are foodies like you know I'm on the road a lot so I go to eat restaurants but like
Starting point is 00:18:54 Benny and them they're like that's all they do now they became like in LA the culture is big like everybody's got a food blog I feel like really even Benny's ex-girlfriend has like a she's a foodie now it's like everybody just it's like it's nothing you can do so okay back to florida daytona beach shrimp shrimp yeah purvis um nobody's cooking so what are you eating you know what's crazy i made my sister like some food once and i like got some fresh produce whatever she was like this is terrible because my family I never realized this as a young person but my mother never got produce we only ate canned food canned beans canned carrots like she would pour them out and my sister was used to this how salty they were she hated like regular fresh fruit and I was like this is not fresh produce I was
Starting point is 00:19:40 like this is I didn't realize that till like a couple years ago I was like damn I grew up never eating like really I only ate canned food do you think that's why you're so salty so invested in kind of your health and yeah and food i got some bad genetics like my teeth are terrible like my teeth have so many cavities my children have well they have my cavities their mother has never had a cavity she's like 35 do you like sweets i do but i think it's definitely just like it's definitely like you don't floss enough or you're like there's something wrong because i mean it's like my kids don't eat sugar all the time but they have also young kids and they have cavities but i grew up and my mother used to make like i used to have some weird stuff she used to make one
Starting point is 00:20:20 thing like for sweets she would give me a lemon and just put salt on it and like we would just like lick the salt and that would be like a snack. It was really good, actually. Why? I don't know. Did it gear you up for tequila slammers when you were a bit older? It does taste like, now that's the only thing you can reference. But I gave this to people, like fresh.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I have a lot of lemons in my backyard now in Malibu. So you just cut lemons, and you just bite them with salt. It's actually a really nice little treat. Do you grow anything else in your garden? Yeah, I grow figs. But actually when I moved in, I have a new fig tree because my landscapers killed my old really ancient one. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:54 R.I.P. That's a real shame. I have two avocado trees. The yield is very low in avocados. It takes a long time. That's why they're so expensive I think because they literally only get like one a month. And I have like tangerines
Starting point is 00:21:08 and some baby little apples. I don't know what they are. They're kind of like crab apples. They don't taste good. But back to Florida. You know what I love and no one ever had when I travel is something called starfruit. That grew in our backyard. Yeah, I love starfruit. You used to do it on like...
Starting point is 00:21:24 You used to put it when you do a dinner party, Mom. It would be like the piece de resistance. So you can buy it at the supermarket here? It's like a little... Yeah, but it was very exotic. In a weird place, right? It's like a leekie or something. It's like Chinese, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Well, they grow in Florida. They're like there in my backyard. They're quite tart, aren't they? Also, in my backyard, we had orange tree, but for some reason, when your orange trees are born, they either choose to be salty orange, like they're sour orange. Oh, salty orange, like they're sour orange. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Or they're sweet orange. We had a sour orange tree. It was orange when you ate it. It just tasted like shit. Oh, no. And that was basically my yard. So you're on this carnivore diet at the moment. How long do you think you're going to stick to it as we drink our wine?
Starting point is 00:22:02 No, the wine is not. Wine's all right. Wine's okay. I think wine's actually, I'm confused, right? Because I'm trying to do like a no sugar thing. Wine's very sugary. But everybody tells me that wine is like good. Like one glass a day or like it's like the antioxidants.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And I hear conflicting messages. Not only that, I just read something. Because I've got a bit of a problem with my eyes. That if you drink wine. What are you going to say with your alcohol consumption? You end up drinking red wine stops you having cataracts so have some more wine
Starting point is 00:22:30 because you will have long distance sight it also keeps me kind of awake because I'm kind of tired but this wine is great so do you like to cook? not so much I don't have a lot of time off you just put some steak on the grill
Starting point is 00:22:44 I've been eating a lot of steak in. He just puts a steak on the grill. Yeah, I've been eating a lot of steak in Malibu because my friend gets this really good beef sent to him every month and he likes to come over and he cooks. What's the name of this person? Lele. He owns some restaurants like Sugarfish. Oh, wow. I love Sugarfish.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He's my neighbor and he's a big Italian guy. He owns Uovo, another great restaurant in LA. Which one? Uovo. It's another Italian place. And he owns Kazunori. If you like Sugarfish, that's even better. Oh, really? It's like a big, like, he's like Italian guy. And he owns Uovo, another great restaurant in LA. Which one? Uovo. It's another Italian place. And he owns Kazunori. If you like sugar fish, that's even better.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Oh, really? It's like hand rolls only. Okay. But he like loves beef. And he comes over with like this crazy, like, he has his girlfriend there and they have like a fucking tub and it's like, the temperature is exactly right to keep it in the water. And then they bring it there and he sears it and then does this and like has a timer and he's like going crazy. And like, it's the perfect cut and he slices it for all like the five of
Starting point is 00:23:27 us and we each have a slice and it's like the craziest way to eat beef. Like it's the highest end. That's what we were going to do for you. We're going to do a sirloin and we're going to do it tagliato. Well, that gives me like anxiety because I've seen him do it too many times. Like that cooking style is crazy. This is perfect. We weren't going to do it like bloody matey sugarfish.
Starting point is 00:23:44 We weren't going to. it like bloody matey sugar fish we weren't no I don't think so no I think you weren't going to put the bloody steak in the bathtub were you no
Starting point is 00:23:50 it could have been I've been look I love this I love this pate is that what it's called yeah it's good it's not bad
Starting point is 00:23:57 you told me not to make it because you said he won't eat it I will literally eat anything it said on the bloody thing rarely chicken so I said why would you do a chicken liver parfait?
Starting point is 00:24:06 But now... The pate's good. Yeah. I think all liver is good, though. If you're doing a real carnivore diet. Any kind of liver. People eat a lot of liver right now. Beef liver is really popular in America.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Really? Beef. Calf's liver we eat. Oh, calf's liver. And also eating it raw. Oh my God. There's a guy called Liver king on instagram oh my god and his whole thing is like eating liver and testicles raw and he's like it's a placenta
Starting point is 00:24:31 have you have you tried it no i have liver every like week i guess i have a little liver and we cut it do you have a chef i don't but this girl does cook for me so if i need to eat when i'm home because think about this girl that cooks for you is she I need to eat when I'm home because the thing about Malibu that sucks does this girl that cooks for you is she your girlfriend? no she's oh okay she was like kind of like
Starting point is 00:24:49 we found her because she makes like things I can heat up quick if I want to have like some food and I'm like it's too late because in Malibu everything closes at like nine
Starting point is 00:24:55 you can't eat food why is that in America? no that's just sleepy Malibu it's like a country town but it's sleepy LA as well not LA but do you mind that when you're such a kind of
Starting point is 00:25:04 night are you a night owl? when I'm such a kind of night, are you a night owl? When I'm home I kind of try to go to bed at like midnight and I'm like up in the gym working out at seven. But you know the weekends. If you've done a DJ set, what time? Just say you've done one in
Starting point is 00:25:17 central LA. Some big party, it's just before the Oscars and you're DJ'd or even after and you come home and it's about 3 in the morning I don't think he's coming home where do you go and eat then? because all your adrenaline's been going you want to chill out and you want a nice
Starting point is 00:25:34 meal yeah I mean 3am you haven't eaten yet you kind of messed up I feel like you kind of failed but if I'm like want to eat something before I go to bed I'll probably just eat like an omelette or have a bowl of cereal. Like a breakfast thing. I like cereal and milk.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So sad. We've got some of that if you need it. We can cook it up. My son eats cereal before he goes to bed every night. I did. When I've cooked. Now, I've seen this thing that everyone's talking about. Do you put your cereal in and then your milk? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah. Oh, a lot of people. Is that the wrong way to do it? No. I've been seeing a lot of people is that the wrong way to do it no I've been seeing a lot of controversial things where people put
Starting point is 00:26:08 the milk in first and then put the cereal in why when you're younger people heat up the milk when you're younger like there's a thing like cereal milk
Starting point is 00:26:15 is really good like after you're done with the cereal oh yeah you drink some milk and it's like so good and sometimes you just keep putting
Starting point is 00:26:20 you just like have a lot of milk and you keep you eat all the stuff and it's quite sweet what's your favourite cereal man I used to love these two one was called Honey Bunches of O's You just have a lot of milk and you eat all the stuff and it's quite sweet. What's your favorite cereal, man? I used to love these two.
Starting point is 00:26:29 One was called Honey Bunches of O's. Just O-H-S. And there's, of course, Cinnamon Toast Crunch. It was like crack. It was so good. And that milk is heaven. That is really good. There's a whole cooking fad where you cook with that as toppings.
Starting point is 00:26:43 You take the Cinnamon Toast Crunch and. I guess like the chef in New York and she has the milk bar. You're going to have bread? She has the milk bar and she does like, she'll do cereal. She was doing that cereal milkshakes before everybody was doing it and stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Is that the one that was doing breast milk milkshakes? No, I don't think so. I'm not sure if she was doing that. Would you try a breast milk milkshake? Yeah, I tried my breast milk for my first son. What did you think? Sweet? Yeah, really sweet, but just like,
Starting point is 00:27:09 I definitely tasted the difference like when you process milk and like that. It was like, it tasted really raw. It had a little funk to it. Yeah, a little funky. My husband wouldn't try mine. A little funky. It's funny because cow's milk is slightly sourer
Starting point is 00:27:20 when you taste it raw. That's a good cheese. Is it? Is that Godminster? Yeah. Godminster's a good cheese. Is it? Is that Godminster? Yeah. Godminster is a great cheddar. Yeah. So we're sacking off the bloody four-year-old Gouda.
Starting point is 00:27:32 So, okay, so you've been around the world about 10,000 times everywhere. You've eaten everywhere. Which destination is the place that you would always return to? Las Vegas, because I have to go there. Have you got a residency there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Is that very fun? Let me tell you, though. Las Vegas is definitely the best city to eat food in America because every place that you like, like the Mr. Chow's or the... Carbone. Carbone, they're all there. They all had to do it. Delilah's is there now, so everything you want.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Plus, it has the best Thai restaurant in the whole West Coast called CM Lotus. Best Thai restaurant probably in America. What's your order there? Everything. Yeah. Thanks. You get the Delilah. You get the.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Oh, I love it. But Vegas has like, it's fine dining culture. Like the best steak houses. I mean, it's of course not the way you want to do it. The Wynn Buffet I queued for that. That's actually. We left Michael for an hour and a half ahead of us and we went for cocktails. The buffet is insane there.
Starting point is 00:28:30 The buffets, I love the buffets. There's another one, I think it's like Caesar's, one of them's like the biggest buffet in the world. But all I know is all the Jewish old ladies that shouldn't have been eating it was going, the snow crab's there, the snow crab's there, and we were all rushing to get it. Actually, no, there's a pile of legs. It's crazy. Do you stay the night there? there yeah always um what do you stay in a hotel yeah we have like i get like a suite there at encore and i'd stay there and we get you know it's crazy i'm not getting trouble saying this but they give me like a two thousand dollar budget every time i'm there
Starting point is 00:28:58 because like i've had to feed my crew i never use it that's a lot of money so i go out i might skip dinner i go somewhere else off property i deal with properties i've eaten all their food everywhere all the time so i know everything on the menu but in the morning i always fucking buy a uh the biggest batch of um like uh caviar because it's the most expensive thing i just take it home no i eat it there i tried i just try to eat a little bit just because i'm like don't want to waste like the free money i eat that is that wrong but no it's right it was yeah i would be eating a bit and i'd be taking it back on the plane with me one of the craziest like stories i tell people about florida is like my grandmother when we got we got invited to an
Starting point is 00:29:40 orlando magic game once and my grandmother named d, she passed away two years ago. I love her to death. We went to, we got to, we got in a box. Um, my dad's like work, whatever. I got him up,
Starting point is 00:29:50 got a box and we were like invited the family. So it's like five of us in this box, they landed a magic game and there's hot dogs. And there's like, you know, the catering you get for it. At the end of the game, grandma put all the extra hot dogs in napkins and put it in her purse. I would have done that.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Doris. Doris. Were you really close with her? No, but that's that's like i always remember that like every time i'm at a buffet i'm like even if i don't want to eat i'm like this is free food i'm gonna eat every this is like i'm saving money how do you keep your body that's what happened that's because my family i don't know i have to fight the impulses of door the ghost of doris every night i have to fight and say like, don't eat that hot dog. I know it's free, but it's not good. No, but I can't. It's the same as me.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I go to church on Sundays. I haven't been in probably decades, but my dad used to always take us to church on Sundays in Florida. And after church, the bonus would be to get to Western Sizzler. That's a big buffet place in Florida. Oh, the Sizzler. And it's pretty great. It's like the steak and it's like just a buffet and we would just like dad be like it's like $7.99 everybody can eat and we just go there
Starting point is 00:30:49 and my dad was like guys whatever you want have it and we'd go at it and I'd be at the bar with the ice cream machine I'd get as many cones as I could eat
Starting point is 00:30:57 that was our treat after church so similar there. I'm going to try a little pickle. Oh, there's a hornichon. It's good for your something. Pickles are good. For your gut.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I play a football game and they gave me pickle juice to drink. Oh, really? Yeah, it helps you with your joints. Really? Do you think it's like kimchi? Maybe. Yeah, fermented maybe a little something like that. Football players apparently drink pickle juice before games. So do you play a lot of football? No, I'm talking about American football.
Starting point is 00:31:33 The throwing one. But there was a Super Bowl that happened, and I played in a celebrity game. Did you go to the Super Bowl? I did, yeah. Was it fun? Was it amazing, that performance? Oh, yeah, that was a good performance.
Starting point is 00:31:41 That was actually probably the most cohesive the world could get it. because remember when he was younger there's always like the who would play and like paul mccartney and like people like nobody fucking cares like people but you know then they finally started putting like urban acts like we it's like it's a huge thing for the nfl to introduce like rappers it was like crazy it was like such a controversial thing and now you're like snoop dogg he's literally like martha stewart like it's like you don't it's not even it's not even like it's not even like edgy but Stewart. Like, it's like, you don't, it's not even, it's not even like, it's not even like edgy, but like 10 years ago, it was like, literally, you would never put Snoop Dogg on a, give him a mic at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:32:11 But we've come a long way, I think. Can you rap? I can rap. Can you? I can rap, yeah. Do you? You want me to do a little freestyle? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh my goodness. Go on, then. All right. If you actually, go on, then. We got the drunken goat. We just have to cross the moat. We're in England side with Jesse Ware and her mom. I took a ride in the Viana on my side.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. And then I'm going to take a flight. We're going to glide back to Vegas. And then what rhymes with Vegas? I don't know. You fucked yourself. I wish I had some, I wish I had some botegas and you made me some steak
Starting point is 00:32:45 oh my god A for F thank you so much Wes does everybody have to freestyle on this show? I'm usually a lot better but there's no beat there was no beat I know
Starting point is 00:32:54 sorry how did you start out? how did you become a DJ? so what did you do before? you ask him the hard-hitting questions your mom's she's a real one I'm not just saying so you left school at did you do before you ask him the hard-hitting question your mom's she's she's a real one um
Starting point is 00:33:06 so no because you left school at i did i actually tried to go to college were you musical at school were you kind of obsessed with it because i feel like you're a bit of an all-rounder like you can do anything i think i never i was in piano and i like learned the basics of music but i what i what makes me my skill set i was like i was i loved djing and i loved music like i loved what i loved records i love like listening to like when i was younger it was like nirvana it was like madonna and then as i got older i was like hip-hop and i was like where you know you listen to something like wu-tang what what's the music and you're like oh it's like bob james or it's like this jazz it's like what is that jazz so literally just like
Starting point is 00:33:43 obsession led to another thing i started getting to like oh this record label does jazz i love jazz miles davis did oh electronic jazz herbie hancock oh it's the keyboards and jazz and you're like you just start spiraling into like this like knowledge i just i just got obsessed so like i had like four years i just became a dj i like learned everything i could because it was part of being a good dj so i applied that in the beginning I was making hip-hop. So I was doing sample-based music. And then I learned how to produce that way. And then eventually, I was songwriting.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Because the connection with Benny is that he worked with Spank Rock. And I was one of the first groups that I was in Philly. We had this little scene going on with Saucy Gold. Such an exciting scene. And then M.I.A. would come there and work with me. And Spank Rock and Plastic Little. And Benny was part of that, too, because he was working with Dis was working with disco he was like fucking five years old and so he got signed to dr luke because dr luke was like oh this is like spank rock it's amazing i want to work
Starting point is 00:34:32 then benny started producing with luke and then benny was like actually i won't be i can be a songwriter we do katie perry like he just jumped took me like 10 years to figure that out i was like already i was just doing like whatever i could do to make a little money and being a DJ. But basically, when I go to the studio, I'm a conceptual guy. Let's do what makes no sense. Let's do country and dance, whatever it is. And then I'm like, how do I do it? And I make an idea, and it usually sucks.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And then I make another one, and it usually sucks. And then finally, I'm like, this is OK. And then I give it to somebody, and they sing it. And then that's how a song gets made. It's like ideas. I have to figure out how to make them work concept of like conceptually so i mean how does it feel bringing out music like 18 what's it 18 years yeah this is 18 years well since my last first album my first album was on a label here in england called ninja tune remember that yeah they're still going yeah well yeah they're still going it was on actually big data it was like a size yeah and a ruse maneuver was the was the
Starting point is 00:35:24 main artist and i used to open for him like i played like bri science yeah and a ruse maneuver was the was the main artist and i used to open for him like i played like brixton academy and dj'd before him and uh did tours like cut cold cut and all these like bonobo yeah i'm on tobin and so i started there just doing like electronic underground music and then i just i also signed with dr luke and then moved on and started doing like pop music and learning how to song write. And at that point, Luke was like combining like Katy Perry and Juicy J. Like everything kind of like changed. You could rap, you could sing, you could do everything. And now it's like, there's no rules in pop music.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So it kind of was made for, you know, your squad, like me and Benny, the guys who just do whatever we want. So do you think you'll ever slow down? I feel like you're never going to slow down. It's pretty slow. Are you fucking kidding me? How many countries have you been in this week? Yeah, but I only do like one thing.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah, you know what? It does suck. Leaving Heathrow is like the worst thing I've ever done in my life. Like it's so crazy. They're addicted to like the liquids. Oh my God, the 100 mils. They're obsessed with the 100 mils.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It's so crazy. And like in America, when you go to TSA Pre It's like It's like Nobody's over 21 years old You know No one's like
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's like the youngest people You can sneak weapons in It doesn't matter No one's really paying attention Here it's like regular people Like 35 year old people Whose job is this And they're like
Starting point is 00:36:37 Finding that aerosol can Oh there's another zipper here And it's like So slow to open the zipper And it's like It's like Can you get some kids In here to slow to open the zipper. And it's like, it's like, can you get some kids in here to do this job?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Like, what the fuck? I'd spent like 45 minutes there doing like, for like an eye cream. I don't know where it was in the bag. Like, it was like, get. Or my inhaler. They always throw my inhaler.
Starting point is 00:36:57 but slowing down. I just, I cannot leave this country. Like going to Heathrow is like one of the worst experiences in my career is doing that are you going there tonight?
Starting point is 00:37:06 tomorrow oh when he's dreading it yeah now I we ask everybody what their last supper would be this is a starter
Starting point is 00:37:14 a main a pud or dessert and a drink of choice oh man this sounds basic but I love Indian food
Starting point is 00:37:21 like it's my favorite thing to eat have you had it whilst you've been here? no I'm gonna have it tonight I think where are you gonna eat it? my favorite thing to eat. Have you had it whilst you've been here? No, I'm going to have it tonight, I think. Where are you going to eat it? My friend's got a restaurant she invited me to. But I've had, like, a couple of places.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I've had Asha and Dishoom and the places. But I've heard there's, like, I'm sure... I've had every place on Brick. Hasn't Benny told you about the Regency in Wembley? No. But I've had, like, every place on Brickland. Yeah, Thai apps. Everything you've had.
Starting point is 00:37:42 But, of course, it's better here than anywhere in America. But in India, like like I love going there and doing shows I just love like it's something when you eat Indian food though you kind of like gotta like give up
Starting point is 00:37:52 on whatever else you're gonna do like you kind of like you eat it and then you're not gonna do anything else that night you're gonna probably
Starting point is 00:37:56 go home and like feel a little weird and maybe pass out but is it just the different tastes or the spices or do you like hot food I like hot food
Starting point is 00:38:04 but I love the spices, I guess. I love the sensation of like, and I love jerk chicken too. Like when I eat jerk in Jamaica, there's a jerk, where I live, my place is called Portland and it's a small city there called Boston. It's called Boston Bay. It's like a really good little surfing spot. And that's where jerk was invented. And they have these like all these people go there and travel for all these.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Do they have big barrels? The big smoke and they jerk everything. They jerk all the fruit. They jerk the pork. They jerk everything. Yeah, they had these like all these people go there and travel for all these they have big barrels yeah the big smoke and they jerk everything they jerk all the fruit they jerk the pork they jerk everything yeah they jerk like all the stuff and then but when you eat that the sauce there you get some sauce take away it's so hot and so crazy that it's almost psychedelic and you can't stop eating it because when you stop putting it on it starts to burn so by the time so you do more and you're like have more chicken and you have the pork and i didn't even eat pork until when jamaica was like i've got to try the pork and then i was like eventually i was like i was starting to i was starting to have i was tripping like the jerk sauce i was good it was so hot and i ate so much i was i had to treat trip out it's like psychedelic
Starting point is 00:38:56 jerk sauce up in boston oh wow i mean that's my last meal maybe pudding and then like dessert like i don't know i could really bring them warm chocolate chip cookie kind of pie cake things hey you listen like we had um i don't know if you watched it's a sin it was a big tv show here and it was amazing and the lead girl on it she says that pizza hut do one of the best warm cookie cookie dough kind of things so i'm just saying you know you could be all late tonight getting a pizza in America they really know how to do that
Starting point is 00:39:26 that warm cookie anything like pies we don't really have that much culinary but if you go to like New Orleans it's really special like that's like
Starting point is 00:39:35 well I mean they're bay bayonets all that French stuff that like mash up with like southern food like with the prawns and the spices
Starting point is 00:39:42 and then like the creole the Cajun seasoning that's a really there's really amazing restaurants there po'boys the fried chicken like with the prawns and the spices and then like the Creole the Cajun seasoning that's a really there's really amazing there po boys the fried chicken but like it'd make it like fine dining like they really like they're all the fancy places that are like 100 year old like Delmonica like there's you got to go to New Orleans eat I produce remember Alex do you remember Alex Clare yeah so
Starting point is 00:40:03 anyway my first like real hit ever was Alex Clare's, I guess Paper Planes came out already. But I did Paper Planes, but then Alex Clare had a song called Too Close. Yeah, and it kind of was a resurrection. It was a crazy flop. And then it got signed. Then Microsoft resurrected it.
Starting point is 00:40:18 So Alex Clare, you know, he ended up going to Israel and became like a Hasidic Jew. Is he a religious? Yeah. Mom, he's so religious. But he was like just... He was on the edge. He's an amazing guy.
Starting point is 00:40:30 First of all, I didn't know he was Jewish. He was like blonde. He has a crazy soul voice. He was famous for being Amy Winehouse's ex at the time. Wasn't he a chef? He was. So you know a lot. I was managed by his manager.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Oh, so this is a good connection. So anyway, Tuffin and then a guy at XL. Nick Huggett. Nick Huggett moved to what? Major label? Columbia, probably. Island. Island.
Starting point is 00:40:52 You know, you guys already know the story. So anyway, he was like, I want you and Ariel and Switch to go do Alex Clare, a whole album. We're going to get you. He wants to go to New Orleans. I was like, okay. I didn't know who the guy was. I saw a picture.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I didn't know he was. I thought he was black, first of all. And then I saw, I didn't know who the guy was. I saw a picture. I didn't know he was. I thought he was black, first of all. And then I saw. I didn't know he was like a Jewish guy. Blonde hair. Yeah. So we get there. And I don't know how to produce a record.
Starting point is 00:41:10 None of us do. We're kind of like idiots. Me and Switch and this other guy. We're just doing mushrooms. We're like driving across the bridge to Mississippi. We're going to parties. We're doing a little bit of things. We did too close.
Starting point is 00:41:18 We did some songs. He ended up getting dropped after we finished the album. But then he got re-slammed. But then he got bigger. And then he got re-slammed. I made a little money on it. Anyway. He was still after he finished the album. But then he got re-slammed. But then he got bigger and then he got re-slammed. I made a little money on it. Anyway, he was still pretty Jewish at the time. Like he wouldn't eat any, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He wouldn't perform on a Saturday. But he wouldn't eat any pork. No, no, no. But he's like, he's a chef. So he was like, I'm going to do all the food here in New Orleans because it was like his dream. So he did it. And he ate everything.
Starting point is 00:41:44 He was like, he went crazy. it and he ate everything he was like he went crazy I'm gonna eat shrimp and pork this whole week and then like I'm never gonna eat it again because he's like
Starting point is 00:41:51 my dream is like this is the best culinary city in America it's so special and I remember thinking that I actually stopped eating pork and shellfish after hanging out with him
Starting point is 00:41:59 I never really until I started recently eating pork again just because I'm trying this other diet but I don't eat shellfish. I just don't like the way it tastes. Really?
Starting point is 00:42:07 Even though it's part of your family's kind of heritage? Well, I'll tell you what. I've probably eaten over one million shrimp already in my life. I have a shrimp tattoo on my arm. My whole family was like shrimp. My mother, I have a nightmare as a mother. De-beating shrimp and having big ones and taking the parts. That's the only thing we really did was eat shrimp in all kinds of ways.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So you've done it. I've done the shrimp, and I don't like it anymore. Maybe a little shrimp and fried rice, but I can't. What about sushi then? I like sushi. I like raw. I mean, that's like L.A. culture. L.A. food is like tacos and sushi.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's like our culinary specialty in Korean food. And where's your special place for tacos? Oh, this place called Taka Via Corona. It's in Atwater. It's a really good burrito, actually. Not really tacos. That's where bloody Benny's taking me, I think. That's a really good one.
Starting point is 00:42:52 We're already going through the reservation. There's a lot of good, like... So what about Jelena's, which I like? Oh, that's gone. Oh, Benny, that's not even on the list this time. What about the one we went to with your mark? Oh, Giorgio Baldi. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah. That's like going from Malibu, because that's only 20 minutes from my house. Giorgio Baldi. Oh, I love that. Yeah. That's like going from Malibu because that's only 20 minutes from my house. That's like the border. You think I'm taking a bloody five-year-old and a three-year-old. Yeah. But you can get the private room at Giorgio Baldi. It's not even like, no, it's not, it's like not that fancy. I haven't had it too close yet.
Starting point is 00:43:16 It's not that fancy. It's like you literally can, it's like a pretty, it's a pretty. My daughter lives in, the other daughter I've got lives in LA. And she says that Malibu doesn't have great restaurants. No, but that's on the border of Santa Monica and Malibu. It's like, it's just, it's close enough for me to go. There's a really good place in Malibu called Taverna Tony's. And Benny likes that place.
Starting point is 00:43:34 It's a Greek place. That's kind of famous. Nice, great. We'll do that. And is there good grocery shopping there? Yeah, there's good groceries. You have vintage grocer. And everybody, we have like a pavilions, Erewhon.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Erewhon, Jesus Christ. So expensive, but you're going to get it. So expensive. Trader Joe's is reallyions, Air One. Air One, Jesus Christ. So expensive, but you're going to get it. So expensive. Trader Joe's is really good. You may fall in love in the aisle. The farmer markets, though, are like the place to go. That's where you go, and they're really good. We have a lot of produce.
Starting point is 00:43:54 We have great farms in California. Really good food. I know. I need to know your drink of choice for your last supper. Tequila, darling, I think. Yeah, I hear you like tequila. I'll do a little tequila. You know what? I hate saying this
Starting point is 00:44:07 but I'm I'm into margaritas it's such a like thing I feel like I'm a late comer to them It's like being a white guy from Florida just like you just love the margaritas
Starting point is 00:44:16 I don't know what it is Do you? Yeah like Jimmy Buffet just peach it's our culture Jimmy Buffet So what would be your tequila of choice
Starting point is 00:44:23 in your margarita? It would be it'd be tepozan because it's one i invested in it's really great i'll send you guys yeah i'd love it so before we let you go um and i don't know ready for this then well you i mean you can stay we can give you a little fact which one is which orange the little ones are ginger and the long ones are orange they're just chocolate but but Jesse said he'll only eat dark chocolate
Starting point is 00:44:47 I'm really not going to follow your guide anymore That's the details we got, Mum I know, because I could have made him a proper dinner Mum, you didn't want to make a proper dinner at 3 o'clock I didn't mind, I would have made it earlier That's how we do big family
Starting point is 00:45:04 dinners in America. We have like Thanksgiving dinner at like four or five. No, you start at like nine in the morning. I mean, we're good on Thanksgiving. We could have redone it for you guys. I could explain to you guys.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It's our favorite meal. I could have explained to you guys. We could have done it together. I would have got you some of my, my mother's, my mother has one thing that she makes that I love. Actually, I'll tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:45:22 It's called sausage cheese balls. I don't know how to explain it. Sausage cheese balls. Yeah. So she makes that I love, actually. I'll tell you what it is. It's called sausage cheese balls. I don't know how to explain it. Sausage cheese balls? Yeah, so she takes some Jimmy Dean, whatever the flour is to make bread kind of things. I don't know what the hell it is, but she takes Jimmy Dean meat, and she doesn't use any sauce, and then she mixes it with this- Who's Jimmy Dean? He's like a sausage guy.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Okay, right. Big sausage guy. Like our Richmond's bloke. Okay, got it. Yeah, it's like a special, but it's like kind of a cheaper one. And it's like got a lot of like sauce in it already. Yeah, yeah. And she just mixes that with some cheddar cheese and some flour.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And it's just like these balls. And you just like mix them with your hand and don't put any sauce. And for some reason, you make little balls. And there's this great thing, like this little cheese ball with meat that I eat. And she sends it to me. She ships them in a shipping container, like a little Tupperware every Christmas. And it's like, and they're even better when they're old. I promise when we come to LA, I'll cook.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah. Do you drink coffee? Do you need a coffee? Yeah, I do need a coffee, actually. It's shit coffee, though. I'm sorry. That's my favorite kind. Fuck off.
Starting point is 00:46:18 It's terrible. Do you have like milk or something? Yeah, we have milk to disguise the shit coffee. You're not going to make the one that Alex makes, though. Why were you guys laughing when I said tea? Is that like something you don't drink? Do you want tea? Yeah, we have milk to disguise the shit coffee. You're not going to make the one that Alex makes, though. Why were you guys laughing when I said tea? Is that something you don't drink? Do you want tea? No, we love tea.
Starting point is 00:46:30 The builder's tea has a lot of caffeine in it. Would you like a builder's tea or a coffee? If you don't make tea, I don't want to make you make tea. We love tea. It was just funny because we thought we were going to get you drinking booze. We did that. Now let's get some teas. Diplo, Wes, do you have good table manners?
Starting point is 00:46:49 What does that mean? Well, do you think that you present yourself? Yeah. Yeah, I'll tell you what. Yeah. I'm a really nice person to eat with and stuff, but I'm from Florida, so I cut everything with the side of a fork.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I never was taught, the things so i don't so when i cut like if you if you didn't give me a knife here i would have been doing this i've been doing this because that's a florida thing or is it just yeah it's kind of white trash like habit oh don't say that that's not a bad thing he's okay mom i think he's okay but he's a lovely man he doesn't know but that's kind of my family i'm from are you like i mean you would consider my if you go to my bait shop my mom's He's okay, Mom. I think he's okay. No, but he's a lovely man. He doesn't need to say that. No, but that's kind of my family. Are you... I mean... You would consider my... If you go to my bait shop,
Starting point is 00:47:27 my mom's ass, it's like one of the most redneck... Do they still have the bait shop? Yeah, my sister runs it now. It's pretty fucking lucrative. She has like a trailer park. It's a full ass trailer park and all the snowbirds go there
Starting point is 00:47:36 and she makes a lot of money now. It's like she's like a redneck Donald Trump. Like she's like rich redneck. Can I just ask one thing if we've got five more minutes while I have a cup of tea? Yeah. You're surfing.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Can you do the hang eight and go round? The hang eight? What do you do about this? Excuse me. I've seen one surfing. No, there's one called a barrel. Don't point break.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I've been barreled but at the Kelly Slater's park. It's like a pool. Kelly Slater? He has a wave pool that's amazing. But hang ten, yeah. In his light garden? No it's in near sacramento it's a really famous place and like it's expensive like forty thousand dollars of rent a day and all these like people go there a little bit of milk yeah some kind of
Starting point is 00:48:16 practice well it's because it's a perfect wave and you can never you only see that like once a year wherever you live so every day they have this perfect wig. He's laughing. Yeah. He's laughing. Oh, what's a big cup of tea? Mum, you need to ask him the question. Do you ever sing karaoke? Oh, yeah. I need the lyrics, though. I don't really know the songs.
Starting point is 00:48:33 No, no, not going to have to do it now. What's your favorite karaoke song? I love to do With or Without You by U2. Oh. He's my neighbor, the guy, the drummer. I don't know his name. Maybe you should do karaoke with him and just get him to join in. The drummer.
Starting point is 00:48:44 You should get people in the band to like karaoke that are like the band members not the lead singers yeah otherwise it's like a okay give them a chance they might actually have great voices with or without you fabulous now i i that's just the easy one i like but rap ones rap songs are actually the best which one would you be your rap? I mean, some 50 Cent, some Farside. I'm pretty old school. Something like that. Something like Nelly. Eminem.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's easy. I can rap more than I can sing. You don't need to have... Can you sing? You've got a nice speaking voice. I can do the low voice. I don't have a good full voice. I did sing on a Beyonce song, though.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Which one? Did you? The one I produced called All Night on Lemonade. Oh, did you? I'm the background vocals and she didn't take it off. Like I sent her, when I finished the demo,
Starting point is 00:49:31 I was like sending back the whole thing with like new bass, new drums. And I was like, my voice is still in the BBs. Like you got to take them out. She's like, no, Beyonce likes them.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I listen, I think it's much more, but I try and include like my producer, James Ford will not be on my fucking record, even though, and he plays the jazz flute and he won't fucking give me a solo but I love having my people in the room because I think for me I can imprint of a memory and a moment so I think she couldn't do like it's like a texture
Starting point is 00:49:56 also she probably had demo-itis because probably a texture she couldn't figure out how to get rid of but the thing is I when I'm singing I don't really do a lot of melodies because I always got somebody better. I wrote that with Rock City. You know those guys? They're like songwriters. Just some L.A. guys. But it's always, sometimes I'll hum some melodies or whatever, but never like full words.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I was like, oh, let me do this B.B. real quick. I had it in my head and I remember doing that. And I was like, I never had even done that. I was like randomly did it. Well, you were quite pleased with yourself when you stayed on. Shantae, you stay. Well, you know what? I did do a duet with Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:50:23 There you fucking go. Are you doing duet with Beyonce there you fucking go are you doing any more with Beyonce no no she's she's doing something now I don't know what it is it's a mystery
Starting point is 00:50:31 she's on Columbia I'm on that label so what are you producing any new people at the moment no just my own stuff now
Starting point is 00:50:37 I'm doing another LSD album though so with Labyrinth and Sia so we're gonna finish that oh that'll be great I'll record it later this year do I know LSD it's it's Labyrinth Dith and Sia. We're going to finish that or record it later this year. Do I know Alistair?
Starting point is 00:50:45 It's Labyrinth, Diplo and Sia. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, very good. What's the most kind of nostalgic taste of your childhood that can take you back somewhere? Shrimp. Would it be shrimp?
Starting point is 00:51:03 Shrimp or vernet sauce? What's vernet sauce? I don't know. My mom. Varnes. V-A-R-N-A-I-S. It's like a French sauce. But my mom used to buy it cheap and mix it with water and she'd put it on everything.
Starting point is 00:51:14 It's like some really weird... Like vernet sauce. Exactly. But we said it wrong. My mom used to put it... We had a cheap version of it from Publix supermarket. But that's quite sophisticated to put that on. You buy it like in a packet and you mix it
Starting point is 00:51:28 and it's just added to anything. I love your mom. She's pretty cool. How old is she? 73. Oh, she's young. Thank you for doing table manners. Thank you. I'm sorry I didn't cook for you properly, darling.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I love this, man. This was, you weren't joking. Those are some good ginger cookies. How good are they? Really good. I'm going to go. I'm so cheesed out right now. I know. You're cheesed off. Well, Mum, what do you think of Diplo?
Starting point is 00:52:12 Oh, she's so attractive. Jessie, the voice was like syrup. I feel like after our intro, I feel a bit sorry for him because it wasn't actually his request. And he ate everything and more. And we could have given him a proper meal. I know. I felt slightly sorry for him because I felt he'd been on the road all day and he...
Starting point is 00:52:39 I wouldn't worry too much. I think he's going to be okay. Do you think? Yeah. He's got your cup of tea in the car and i've sent him with my association of jewish refugees sippy cup wonderful leave that in heathrow they gave it to me diplo thank you for so much for being on the podcast diplo's new record, Diplo, is out. First one in 18 years. And mum, next time you see Diplo,
Starting point is 00:53:09 probably be either in the boo or in Vegas. Take your pick. Darling, you'd love Vegas. Thank you so much for listening. I really, it was a real pleasure to see him. Such a delight. To chat. Thank you for listening and we'll see you next week

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