Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S3 Ep 10: Michelle Keegan

Episode Date: August 1, 2018

We loved her as Georgie in 'Our Girl' and now we love her as actual-real-life Michelle Keegan. We talk Corrie, paparazzi and her all time favourite ice breaker question. And she’s a girl after my own heart: she doesn’t just love food, she loves DIRTY food! What a lovely episode to finish to the series. Keep sending in your guest suggestions and Table Manners will return very soon with your next serving - cheers!  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Hello, my name is Jessie Ware and I'm a tad weary today for this podcast. I'm sat here with my mum who's looking rather smug. Yeah, I'm not tired at all I feel fighting fear oh good for you you can do the washing up then sparkling well I usually do the cooking the shopping and the washing up so it won't be anything new for me touche um yeah I've been set the task of cooking tonight and I'm really tired and I better kind of have a cold shower and put some makeup on because we've got the prettiest person

I've ever seen in my life and glamorous. An excellent actress. Fabulous. I said to Sam, my husband, I said, we've got this person on tonight and he said, I'm working till 10. I said, oh, she'll be gone by then.

He said, no, make her stay. He basically wanted to fritzle her. We have Michelle Keegan on tonight, the actress that people may know from Coronation Street, more recently, Our Girl. She's also done her own Drunk Histories, where she played Queen Elizabeth I. And I saw her in the reception of Soccer Aid

because her husband, Mark Wright, was playing for Soccer Aid on the England team. And she was charming when we met. I wonder if she'll remember that we met. And then I'm going to feel really awkward that now she's in my house and she'll be like, are you stalking me? Anyway, I'm really excited about having her. I think she's a great actress and just seems like a lovely, lovely girl. And she's a Manchester girl, Mum. I wonder if she's a red or a blue

yeah I do too she's from Stockport Stockport possibly a blue really we'll find out what's cooking Jess what am I cooking later to be fair it's actually quite an easy dish it's been so hot in the UK and London is just actually today is like the first day with a breeze. So I just thought I'd keep it really light and easy and fresh. It's actually inspired by one of mum's recipes that she used to do. And it's just like a quick pie art of chicken pie art of chicken. You know what pie art means? No.

Straw. Why is it called that? Because it's so thin because you beat the chicken breast so it's quite thin you beat it with a rolling pin in cling film so it just kind of flattens it all out and then you cook it just fry it up in butter and then add towards the end lemon juice and basil fresh basil season and lots of seasoning and it's really delicious just yeah and it's really tender and now it's really tender and it tastes fresh and so you'll be doing that bit because i'll be doing that bit um but then i've i actually um went on yota otolenghi's podcast that he's

doing called um simple pleasures and it's promoting his new book simple which we're all really thankful for because it's a bit less complicated there's still definitely some interesting herbs in there that you're going to struggle to find but he cooked me dinner whilst we were talking at his dinner table and he did this really delicious new potato salad now I know we've done a potato salad before but he did this one i haven't got the recipe when did we do a potato salad we did it for my dad voted porno maybe we've only done it once it's hard i can't even remember doing it change up the carbs yeah so he infuses his potatoes when they're boiling it with the herbs and he uses mint and thyme and I I can't remember whether he put lemon in there too so I put a bit of lemon zest in there too

and then he zhuzhes up garlic lemon zest olive oil and thyme and mint to make a kind of salsa that gets drizzled over the top mine is a a bastardized version of that, but it's going to be in Ottolenghi's simple cookbook, which I'm really excited about. So I did that. So it's quite lemony. And then Isle of Wight tomatoes, whoever these kind people that approached us on Instagram said, would you like basically a huge...

My Santa's heritage tomatoes. Like the most beautiful colored... I love heritage tomatoes, the most beautiful colored i love heritage tomatoes the green ones so we've got green we've got yellow orange red and they look so beautiful do we have to cut them up yeah but that'll be quick so i've done a tomato with green beans and a mustardy tarragon uh dressing with them um i'm wondering whether this is all going to kind of make her taste buds a bit kind of explode yeah it's quite citrusy and kind of so we're doing that and then for pudding i've done

griddled peaches with rosemary and then i've got creme fraiche and i've put some of my favorite skopelos honey which is the island that we go to in greece i've put a little bit of that in the um creme fraiche and then we've got some macadamia nuts cooked in salted caramel yeah which actually left over from our latitude the macadamia brownies that alex made for adam buxton so we kind of thought that could be nice so a bit of a bit of a crunch um sweet sour so that's what's going on we are taking a break for a while it's our holiday it's our holiday we're going to Greece we're gonna have a lovely time we're gonna try and get some new recipe ideas thank you to everybody that's been listening because you've got us to over a million listens now which is pretty phenomenal pretty amazing yeah a million people have wanted to hear you whinge at me

that's just not true a million people are soothed by my voice and my warmth and my generosity of spirit i feel like maybe you're gonna be the performer tonight do you think yeah think it's a mank thing maybe okay thank you so much for listening and supporting us and letting us do this because we are having so much fun and we will be back with you in the autumn with loads more recipes which will probably be quite greek for a while i think yep michelle keegan coming up Hi, how are you? I'm excited. I'm so excited. I can't wait.

I'm looking forward to meeting you. It smells amazing here. It's fantastic to meet you. I'm looking forward to meeting you. Okay, so we have Michelle Keegan in my kitchen. Hello. And you've got a t-shirt on. You've really,

you've thought about this, Michelle. I have, I have. It says arts and artichokes on the t-shirt. Thank you. I thought I'd come prepared today. Thanks, babe. No, I'm a, listen, I'm a massive,

massive foodie. Like, massive. Are you? Yeah, huge. Let's hope we don't disappoint. No way. This is like my dream coming true right now.

Is it? Yeah. And my mum's as well, actually. My mum would love this. It's a real pleasure to have you on. And we know you have to go back to Manchester. Going to Manchester tonight. Yeah, I'm travelling back up tonight

because I've got a BBC breakfast interview in the morning. Oh, man. Really early as well. Why? Because of our girl. Our girl. Yeah, it's a promotion, really. Our girl, let's talk about it.

It's on at the moment, isn't it? Yeah, well, was it was last week we've been well cut world cup we got take it we got moved to friday then that got moved because wimbledon ran over so this week is back to tuesdays again you're so considerate i know i know i want to know what the beef is because i think i've missed two episodes you're about to spoil something no for people no because clearly the beef is the beef. I'm not up to... The man in charge, he's come back.

Yes, Captain James has come back. Captain James. And why were you asked for a transfer? Because me and Molly... Do you love him? I wouldn't say I love him, but he's made it very, very awkward to work together. Why? Because he loves you.

Well, he's sort of declared his feelings for me no this was in a few episodes in the remember in the jungle we were in the jungle i'm up to episode two of um i'm ruining it for you oh whatever it's fine because i'm still i'm still mourning elvis oh i know everyone everyone he was such a dick, but I loved him. He's one of those guys that you love to hate. Oh, man. He was so, so sure of himself, but he really loved Georgie, and I think that's why everyone loved that relationship.

He was a dickhead. He was, and he was a bit of a bad boy that you wanted her to turn him good. You know what I mean? Oh, man, but it was really, I i mean i was sobbing when he died i was sobbing like in my sam i was supposed to go to bed really early and because i don't know i had a headache and i was in with my ipad yeah my bed in the dark sobbing and sam my husband came in from what do you do he's dead he's dead it was brilliant yeah and you know what I'm really happy about the fact that they didn't leak

that he was gonna die oh right because I think everyone would have expected that if everyone knew they would know what episode it was how he was gonna die

but everyone thought that he was gonna have like this happy ever after because obviously they got back together again and I was in Malaysia at the time I was still filming

and I was watching it unfold on Twitter and I knew exactly where it was up to one minute everyone was saying oh my god they're back together he's like kissing the yeah yeah yeah and then I thought oh god he won't be saying that in 15 minutes time yeah so hon you were filming in Malaysia is that for the next series this is what the series is on now this is Malaysia now well I wanted to ask so you don't go to the place that no you're have you ever been no no no no we've been to africa and obviously one of the episodes was filmed well it was filmed

in south africa but it was set in nigeria um but that's it really we normally film in cape town because of the locations look you know it could food oh my god sushi food in Cape Town I've even been to Willoughby's in the oh my god in the mall I'm not joking it's one of the best sushi restaurants ever there's always queues there it's in the middle of a mall it hasn't got a nice setting or anything oh I don't care but honestly the food is spectacular is sushi your favorite I do like sushi yeah I do only because i like picky foods a lot of the time yeah so i like to pick and i think sushi with that you get like a variety of food i can't really say variety variety of food but i do that's my sort of favorite food to have and

i think that's because i got brought up on tapas a lot of the time did you why yeah my grandma's from Gibraltar oh so you've got Spanish blood well British like to be called British but it's in Spain but that's yeah so my family we're constantly around tapas dishes like picky dishes you know you're having a long table and we just constantly pick but talk to me about because I fit I just came back from Barcelona I had a gig there and yeah and i i love and i don't want to offend any spanish people because i do i do like it but i i do struggle with the tapas menu because i feel like i just hate myself by the end of it because it's all fried i know you mean i know you're like oh that croquette oh yeah sure oh yeah sure i have a quad for a tapas as a promise yeah why not But you should have gone for the lamb chops. So true. There were no lamb chops.

Oh, the almandigas. They're the meatballs, aren't they? The meatballs I love. When you're with a toddler, that doesn't work out so well. They want the patatas bravas, don't they? Yeah, they don't even want the bravas. They just want the patatas. But what were your favourite tapas dishes?

It was all freshly cut meats. I'm thinking about when I was younger. It was all freshly cut meats,'m thinking about when I was younger it was all like freshly cut meats lots of cheese lots of bread like french stick bread and dips and things like that

lots of fresh fish that was another thing calamari yeah even sardines I don't think I can eat them now really I've had them for years but you have them with the bones still in yeah I know that

that puts me off now my son's just in spain at the moment i said have the sardines he said no yeah he won't have anything with a bone in but when i was younger i didn't really care about things like that didn't you i was all up for it but i think as i'm getting older did you used to go to spain or gibraltar yeah i did yeah what's it like time it's really british it's like it's's got M&S. Yeah, it's got M&S. It's got M&S and I think Pretz. Yeah.

It's like a little English high street. It is. With baboons. Yes, it is. Running around. Actual baboons. Actual baboons. How many are there, do you think?

Hundreds. And they jump on your car. And it's like a little rock and it goes up. And there's just baboons everywhere. And they jump on your car and it's like a little rock and it goes up and there's just baboons everywhere and they jump on your car and pull your windscreen wiper wow i did uh who do you think you are not long ago oh yeah i remember yeah i got i got taken back to gibraltar and sort of learned lots of history about gibraltar and the monkeys got actually brought over from oh were they so yeah and and think so yeah and they just started breeding in Gibraltar and stayed there. But they never

run across the runway to get to No they're just always on the rock You say you're a foodie. Can you cook or do you just like to eat other people's food? I love to eat other people's food. But I do like to cook I do. So what's your go to dish? If you're making an effort

If I'm making a real effort well it's normally I normally cook for me and Mark if he's home and he likes sweet quite healthy

foods I'd say so it's a lot of like chickens and I like to put in really nice sauces together healthy sauces so he basically

treats himself like a footballer yeah it's really annoying broccoli yeah but I do it in a really nice way like I fry put loads of So he basically treats himself like a footballer. Yeah. It's really annoying. Broccoli. Yeah. But I do it in a really nice way. Like I fry, put loads of like seasoning with it,

bit of chilli in there, bit of garlic, rather than just boiled broccoli, you know. So I make it exciting for him. But he is a bit of a hell freak. Because he's got that body. Look at that body. My God. Oh, he'd love that.

Yeah, he's fabulous. And he's got to look after it. I mean, she's doing okay with her, but anyway, this is getting very, yeah. It must be the most gorgeous, beautiful couple in the whole wide world. You must just high five each other when you go to the beach.

Just be like, we're doing all right. No, absolutely not. You'll find me probably having a burger at the beach and him having a salad next to me, putting the pressure on. Does he have to watch his weight? He tends more to now because he's in LA I think when you were home obsessed obsessed um and because he's on camera every day as well he's more conscious of it now than he was when he was living in the UK when I go there I put on weight though because

I'm like oh yeah it's so healthy but it's like double the portion. No, but you just have sodding kale even for breakfast. I hate kale. I hate kale. I hate kale. Me too. There's kale on everything. Yeah, it's so true. Michelle, I come from Manchester too.

Do you? She lost her accent though, didn't she? Oh, I still got mine. North Manchester. I was North Manchester. Whereabouts? Presswich. Neither of my parents came from Manchester,

so that's probably why I don't have an accent. So were you living there for a while? I lived there till I was 19. Really? And went to university, but then I never went back. Which school did you go to? I went to St. Patrick's. Are you Catholic?

Yeah. Of course, Keegan. Yeah, I said you're Jewish, aren't you? Yeah. But I went to st patrick's are you catholic yeah of course keegan yeah yeah i said you're jewish aren't you yeah i went to manchester high did you yeah that's right in the city center it's platte fields oh yes we want to know you're blue or red well i have to say blue because my dad's i told you she was blue yeah i said she'll be a blue no i am I am. Well, my dad's from Glasgow originally. Yeah. So he's actually Celtic. Is he?

Yeah. But my stepbrother, who obviously my dad married Lynn, who's my stepmom, and he sort of grew up around my dad and he sort of converted my dad to go to City. Oh, he did. So that's why I'm City. I'm not really anything, to be fair. I was only in World Cup the other week because I jumped on the hype. I wasn't really bothered about that either

I was really excited Yeah it was exciting Did Mark come home for that? No he was going to come home for the final If they would have got in the final he would have come home I can't imagine being in LA No he was watching it He had to set his alarm at 5am

And then drive to this English pub With his English top on and watch it with loads of other people I actually saw Mark playing football quite recently did you? so we both were doing soccer aid and I was that, you may not remember

I was a quite overzealous person that came up to you in the reception you were singing and I sung Mark's very good at football he's very very good at football up to you in the reception yes i'm you were singing i know and i yeah and i sung and um mark's very good at football he's very very good at football and he he loves it as well he was nearly professional yeah he was and it was something that he would have done i think if i think what happened was he was 18 then he had a break for six weeks and he went away and

he sort of went out with the boys putting loads away loads of weight, and then he went unfit. And that was the end of the career. Jesus. That's how strict they are. I think he'll get back in, though. Yeah, he's really good. He scored, didn't he? Did he score a penalty? Yes, he did.

He was very good. And I think two years before that, the other soccer raid, he scored a goal there as well. And we loved him on Strictly. Anyway. Are you going to do Strictly well everyone asks this question

and I'll be honest watching him do it terrified me really honestly he was really good he was really good why are you worried

you wouldn't be as good no no no it was are you better are you worried you're going to embarrass him yeah

that's what I tell people no it's purely the live audience terrifies me but you're an actress yeah but i i can go again if i go for something wrong so hold on would you never do theater that's the next thing to cross off my list you've got to do this you need to go to my hypnotherapist i want to do really yeah i was so scared about doing jules holland really i've done it loads of times and i'd always buggered it up because I just saw that red light.

Yeah. And I was like, oh, I can't do it. Yes. I'm going to clamp up. Went to see my guy, Shomit. Love him. Yeah. And I don't know.

He did something to me. What did he make you do? Well, he just kind of did. You're more confident. I think he's just my therapist now. So, but he's just amazing. He kind of did these kind of, he't go like you're going to sleep now It was like he just

Made me kind of understand That it was irrational To feel like that And that's the kind of Are you rolling your eyes? I think he sounds much better than the woman That helped you have the baby What are you talking about?

I'm not talking about Gary now my fanny didn't tear so I don't give a shit I feel like she's worth all the money in the world exactly I did all of that shit I was putting oil up my bottom and I was making my husband put hot oil up my bottom

he was like why are you making me do this this is why when people say do I want a baby I'm just so not ready for that you don't have to do the hot oil up the arse I paid it oil. He was like, why are you making me do this? You know what I mean? This is why people, when people say, well, baby, I'm just so not ready for that. You don't have to do the whole oil up the ass. You don't.

However, it may help you not to have. I wanted to ask, because we need to bring it back to food. Yeah. Food on, whilst you're in these different countries, you must have eaten amazing food.

Well, we talked about South Africa. Yeah. Malaysia is some of the best food malaysia yeah it was it was really tasty food and for breakfast you would have um because it's like it was like a fusion between indian and chinese the best it's so nice so for for breakfast we would literally have um a stir fry with noodles in or a curry and rice that and like an omelette to go with all that and you'd have it all because it was delicious so hungry i was like yeah put on the plate is it quite demanding physically my girl yeah yeah massive oh girl not my girl no no sorry no everyone caught so a lot of people call it my

girl i just go yeah yeah it is very physically it's really lot of people call it my girl. I just go, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is very physically demanding. It's really physically demanding. I think it's because of the heat as well. Like it's, you can get up to like 45 degrees, especially when we're filming in the jungle. And you're in those outfits. And the outfits as well. Did you do any training? We did a bit of boot camp before we went to South Africa

and that was only for two weeks. And I did like a comprehensive medical training course. You're very believable at being a medic yeah like I feel like you should be I'm not saying you should go to casualty but I feel like you'd be like like the the consultant like you're brilliant thank you it's really good you help someone if they got taken ill on the train tonight um you know what something happened a year ago before I started this series um where a a lady fainted at a table next to me. And me and Mark were on like a date night,

and I heard like a smash. Turned around, this woman had a face in a plate, and her husband was screaming because he didn't know what to do. And straight away, I don't know what came over me. I like, got up. Georgie. Georgie was in me. There we are.

I literally went over, picked her up checked that she didn't swallow her tongue and at this point her husband was screaming i was like calm down calm down i was trying to speak to the lady and she started to come around really slowly so i knew and i was asking questions about what i needed to ask and i could tell that her breathing was fine it wasn't erratic or anything so i knew that came in training quite well i know i couldn't believe it and then i was like right she needs some water so i'll give her some water and then i realized that her um sugar levels were really low how did you know that because her husband said she was diabetic she needs sugar okay so that i knew again i would have known that if i didn't do this training so

i was like right she needs some full fat coke they brought coke over to me and i had a straw so i knew if she had bubbles in the straw she could choke so I took the straw out put it into a cup oh my goodness and I was making a sip of this coke and eventually she came round like nothing's happened

did she know who you were? I don't know was she like have I died and gone to no no an ITV a film set

yeah and I literally sat back down and we just got back on with our meal and she was fine next to me. Did people like applaud you or anything?

No. Was it in England? It was in England, yeah. If that had been in America, I swear to God, people would be high-fiving you. No, you wouldn't do it in America because if you did anything wrong, they'd sue you. So people don't help. Yeah, that's true. Bloody hell, well done.

Yeah, but that's what I mean, how how this sort of training has helped because I didn't panic at all, like in any form. I just literally knew exactly what to do. You worked at Selfridges, didn't you? I did. So did I. Did you? Yeah.

What, whereabouts were you? I was like in the London one, I was in like ladies fashion. And then I was at this place called Auburn and Wills. I was really bad at it. Yeah, I was. I moved around like anything as well. Got bored. What were you on like?

I went for ladies fashion at first and then I went to men's fashion and then I went to the cosmetic counters. I feel like even though it makes your throat kind of hurt by the end of the day because you've just got all that perfume smell. Oh yeah, it really was. It did seem like the funnest.

It was so much fun. And I had, like, mates coming in. My grandma used to come in. My mum. And you see on the stool, I used to do their makeup. That was my day. That was my day. So I looked like I was working, but really,

I was just doing my mum's makeup. But was that before you were on the coronation street? Before, yeah, yeah. And then I was doing the auditions as I worked on the makeup counter. And I remember Kim Marsh coming in. Oh, yeah. Was she in here?

Michelle. No, she just sat on Corrie. She was on Corrie at that point. And I remember exactly what she wanted. She wanted a number two concealer from Benefit, where I was working. And I was so starstruck. I couldn't believe that I could see,

no, I'm seeing someone from Combination Street. And I served her. And then literally, I think it was three months later, I got the job on Corrie did you say hi I served you a no concealer no no I I didn't know how to I don't know how to you know when I first started you don't really know the the boundaries but it was such a surreal place like even on one of the chairs I didn't know that chair was taken or people were gonna be, you know, normal down to earth. You just didn't know. Is it like the first day of school?

Yeah, it's the first day of school and you're definitely the new girl. And it was weird as well, because I worked at the airport before Selfridges and I served Jack Shepherd, who played David Platt. I served him at the, it's going holiday as well, at the checking desk. I served him there.

Small world. Do you miss Coronation Street?ation yeah i was gonna ask yeah like the kind of i i imagine it it must be such fun and there's such kind of structure big decision to leave math it took me two years to eventually decide to leave yeah um it's such a nice place to work it's such a comfortable place to work like i literally lived 10 minutes away. So I'd go home on my lunch break to let the dogs out for a wee, feed them, then come back to work. And I was very lucky with the storylines that I got as well. I got some amazing storylines. But I always thought to myself, you know, I started acting and I took a risk doing what I did.

And I just didn't want to look back in 10 years' time and think, what if? Could I have done something else? Could I have done something else? Could I have done another role? But yeah, I miss it. I miss it loads. Have you been professionally trained? No, I wouldn't say professionally trained.

Did you do acting classes at all? I did, yeah. I did it at college. I did it at school, in and out. And I went to Manchester School of Acting, which is like two times a week, a couple of hours. And I started there in May, and I got an agent in October,

and I got Corrie in November. Wow. Yeah, because I left college. I did it at college as well, A-level. So it was something that I was really interested in, but I always thought, you know, you'd have to start really young to pursue a career in acting.

And then I heard about these acting acting lessons in manchester so i thought okay i can go there because i didn't know whether you know whether to go uni or not and i didn't know what i wanted to do as a career so i started going the acting lessons and that and that's what happened food we should probably eat something okay should we tell you what we're having oh yes please okay so paillard of sorry paillard of chicken which is really a chicken breast and you beat it really really actually beat it really really flat yeah so it's very thin and it cooks quite quickly and i just cook it in a bit of butter lemon juice and basil lots of seasoning and it's delicious weirdly it's really succulent it sounds quite

kind of whatever but actually it's so delicious we're gonna have it with heirloom tomatoes would you call them heirloom tomatoes there are a lot of lots of different colors yeah um so i've done that with a kind of tarragon vinaigrette and some green beans and then we've got these um new potatoes which are with another it's quite lemony so i hope you don't mind yeah no i love citrus and we're going to have like a green salad with some like seeds and spices on the top but yeah so that's

mum's going to get on with that if you weren't cooking for Mark yeah what would you be cooking would you be making an effort or would it be kind of an omelette

I'd probably have like a salad like a healthy sort of salad for me prawns that sort of thing if I have mates over I normally do tapas. Oh, nice. I would normally do tapas for mates.

Is it quite hard to cook at home? What it is, it's just timings, isn't it, with tapas? There's so many little dishes on the go. I just keep it quite simple. I do like gambas pilpil, which is like the garlic prawns. Love them. Oh, so good. You can't go wrong.

So, yeah, like you have to have like a vat of olive oil, but that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Again, fresh bread, my favourite, to dip in. Iat of olive oil oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um again fresh bread my favorite to dip in i do like creamy mushrooms um i get like obviously shop-born patron peppers love the sea salt on them and the palmer hams and mortadella hams oh so you'll have like a cured you have cured meats bit okay that's it so that i don't have to cook that and then maybe i do like chicken like little bits of chicken wrapped in parma ham.

Oh, nice. Yeah. A bit of pepper in there as well. And that's it really. Are you a pudding girl? Not really. I'm more of a savoury. Right.

I love my, I love a lot of salt in my food as well. And cheese. And cheese. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Well, I mean, I'm thinking I'm more of a savoury, but we always.

Are you more savoury as well? Yeah. But we've provided a rather like, because actually it's been so hot. that well i mean i'm thinking i'm more of a savory but we always are you more savory as well yeah but we've provided a rather like because actually it's been so hot and i kind of thought it was going to be overpowering like there's a bit there's a breeze today so but i've just we've griddled some peaches with creme fraiche um and honey kind of mixed into that and then my brother made these um we aren't having the brownies but he made these macadamia salted caramel brownies at the weekend because we did this live podcast

so mum still had a bit of the brittle so we're just going to kind of scatter that so it's quite light so you won't feel like i feel like you're not going to feel like shit on the train yeah that's fine i can sleep on the train anyway so don't even mind this looks amazing by the way i'm a bit worried that it's quite lemony. Thank you very much. So will you just please, will you just take some? Yes. And have you got a fork there, by the way?

Yes, I have. It's really, it's quite makeshift here, by the way. This looks unbelievable. Thank you. It's just simple stuff. So you live in Manchester? Yeah, well, I live in Essex. Or do you want a bit of juice?

Oh, okay. Yes, I do. Maybe. Yes, I do. Do you miss Manchester? I do, but obviously, because Mark's been in LA for a year, I spend... Help yourself to all the other bits and pieces. Thank you.

I spend a lot of my time in Manchester, because if I have a bit of time off, I'd rather catch up with my family and friends than be on my own. Yeah. So, yeah, I've spent a lot of this year in Manchester, which has been really lovely. And where are your favourite places to eat in Manchester? Because it's good food there. Oh, it's great.

It's really good food. There's actually really nice, like, cafes now. Like, you don't have to go for breakfast. Oh, good. Especially in the northern quarter as well. There's one called Evelyn's, which I go to, which is really, really nice. Table manners.

Yeah. Do you believe you've got good table manners I'd like to think so I think my mum would like to think so Was she very on the table manners Oh yeah For me and my brother actually So what did that entail No elbows on the table You don't speak with your mouth open

You use a knife and fork If you haven't finished you use a knife and fork. If you haven't finished, you leave your knife and fork separated. When you finish, you close them. That's exactly how you brought us up, too. It's true. And we weren't allowed to leave the dinner table, actually, until we finished our dinner. That was actually, we never did.

And even if my brother finished first, I would still be at the table until I was finished. He was allowed to leave, I wasn't. They were actually quite strict, Goldick, actually. And did you always kind of, so you always ate round the dinner table together? Mm. And was it always a home-cooked meal? Like, was your mum a good cook? Always.

My mum was actually a cook. She was a chef. Oh, really? Mm. Oh, you're kidding. Yeah. What kind of, like, what was her speciality? What was your favourite that she she always made really nice home food like moussaka and um uh what else is she like really good chinese chicken and

like shepherd's pie you know that sort of homemade cooked food like kind of one like one yeah one pot family family family food yeah um and then when she met my dad, she obviously worked as a chef. And then when she had me and Andrew, she had a bit of time off work. And then she worked at our school. I was like the head cook at our school. So we used to have a lot of school dinners as well, at home as well. What, you'd bring the school dinners back? But were they quite good then?

Yeah. I remember like, especially the desserts as well what you'd bring the school dinners back but were they quite good then yeah i remember like um especially the desserts as well you know i remember that custard remember like this sponging custard and it's the best oh i feel like we should know but i feel like we should put it in the in the cookbook it's like it's that it's that sponge that just is so light yeah and it's just sponge you don't need anything else but I did always like it when they did chocolate custard I don't know why it didn't really taste like chocolate it was the most pitiful chocolate custard wasn't it but it just kind of hit the spot

what are they saying no cake and custard anymore why because children are getting fat oh piss off even on a friday they should be allowed it so do they not have that at school anymore i think they're stopping it i liked it when they used to do the yogurt with the big cookie did you ever have that

oh no it was like massive cookie and then like they lumped a bit of yogurt on it desert island meal or death row meal you can decide whatever you want do you know i'm gonna Desert Island Mill or Death Row Mill, you can decide whatever you want. Do you know, this is my question, my icebreaker question when I'm on a job. Oh, really? It's a bit awkward at first, isn't it, working with someone you don't really know them,

especially if you have to play alongside each other for a long time. That's my first question that I ask. Have you ever had any weird answers? Or memorable answers what did old pasquale well you know what's his fucking name you know pasquale he's italian isn't he so he probably would have said italian to me that was two years ago so i can't remember now but i always think about the people that are really boring that say soup i'm like actually i would say chicken soup oh my god I'm that person

I'm judging you Jess no have you ever had Jewish chicken soup no I haven't I heard you talking about it we did it with Dermot O'Leary

okay I can't believe I'm that person that has soup what do you mean you haven't tried my mum's chicken soup it is I heard the cooking

it is the best why is it so good oh my god i'm that person that you're gonna judge now i am gonna judge oh no i'm dull no no yours is the boiling hen isn't it the boiling the boiling the boiling hen i'm talking about the people that go i want a tomato soup what do you mean Heinz get out no I mean Ed Sheeran they used to do he said on the podcast Sunday lunch is Heinz tomato soup I mean he's just saying that to be cool because he's ginger and he likes orange soup I don't believe it I don't believe it okay so what would you I don't believe it oh my god I love that you're as much as obsessed about food as we are

that is my icebreaker question to be fair mine changes like I always have for starter gambas pil pil

the garlic prawns with bread yes please yeah and then maybe for the main if there were no repercussions

exactly I guess you're dying so you're never going to know if you get that to me even if I got bloated it doesn't matter anyway so the main... If there were no repercussions. Exactly. I guess you're dying, so you're never going to know if you get that to me. So even if I got bloated, it didn't matter anyway. So the main,

I would have, you know like chippy chips? Yeah. Like really good chippy chips soaked in vinegar, salt and vinegar. Oh, okay. I'd have that.

You wouldn't have curry sauce, good Manchester girl. I would, but I want to make chip butters first. Okay. So I'd make chip butters with like loads of

lurpak on my bread oh love lurpak like thick like thick and the vinegar's like soaked into the bread and then I want different condiments

all around dotted around and I want some mayonnaise and then I want some gravy and some curry sauce and it'll be my choice what I dip it in so you just like

break a bit of the butty off yes and dip it into the mayonnaise or the curry sauce. It's a butty mezzo. Oh, I like that. I like that. Oh, I like that.

Yeah, that's what I have. Just because I never have chippy anymore. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's the kind of thing. I remember we used to open somewhere in America, in LA with fish and chips. Oh my God, I'm sure. Maybe you should do that when you go over.

That'd be amazing. And then for my dessert I'll just have a cheese bud which cheeses would be on it definitely brie yeah camembert

Lancashire Lancashire really white crumbly really I know you mean the crumbly one the crumbly one

you get down the market yeah I know which one you mean no it's it's different is that where you cut it all fours apart yeah oh I love that yeah I like the one you mean. No, it's different. Is that where you cut it all falls apart? Yeah.

Oh, I love that. Yeah, I like the one with apricots in as well. Me too, me too. At Christmas I have that. Yeah, and the cranberry. Is that the Wednesday where cranberry's in? I think that's the Wednesday I'll have, maybe. Yeah.

I'd have a really big spread, cheese spread for my dessert. Chutneys or grapes? Yeah, both. Jessie, you might have to give her pudding because if she's got to catch the train. What's the time now? 20 past seven. Okay, fine. Wow, that's amazing.

There's some... Oh, wow. There's more creme fraiche if you want. Thank you very much. You're going to have to pick this off, darling. Put those on. I don't know. Did you grill these?

So we griddled them and it was actually, it was like a kind of, I hadn't tried it before, so I feel like it's a bit of a work in progress. And there's thyme as well, isn't there? No, I put rosemary in there. Oh, rosemary.

Yeah. Jess, we need some spoons and a teaspoon. I've got spoons, sorry. And that's the macadamia nuts. Have you put the macadamia nuts on? Yeah. And then I put it back in the pot, but I just put some really lovely scopolos honey with theopalos honey with the creme fraiche and then we've got the macadamia like brittle just so just like just mum kind of cooking but I'm just I loved eating

so yeah that's just basically yes he was happiest when she was eating oh yeah yeah good peaches darling mmm M&S do you see yourself living anywhere apart from Essex yeah I moved down south purely because I wanted to be

near London for work so I was going to move down south anyway regardless whether I was with Mark or not

and luckily it just so happened that I met Mark he was 40 minutes from London so it just worked but I do like I do like 40 minutes from London, so it just worked. But I do like Essex.

I like how rural it is because it's so green where we live. We live in a little village. It's very quaint. It's very quiet. And you do get nice weather as well. That's the thing. The difference between Manchester and the South. I'm sorry. You know as well because you live there.

Because it's the Penn lines that break the clouds and it's like being in California well that's why they had the cotton didn't they yes the mills

yeah it's true because the damp favoured the mills for weaving yeah that's why loads of mills are up north

but I do I always see Manchester being home but I don't I like the sun as well I always feel like when the sun's out it's just a different atmosphere isn't it so I wouldn't say I like the sun as well. I always feel like when the sun's out, it's just a different atmosphere, isn't it?

So I wouldn't say no to live in Essex, but I wouldn't mind to, you know, I wouldn't mind. Would you like to live in London? I couldn't live in London, God, no. Really? Oh, no, I couldn't. It's too busy for me. Really?

Because even in Manchester, I live somewhere really quiet, and then Essex lives somewhere really quiet. So when I come into London, I'm not used to the hustle and bustle, and I just can't wait to get out. I come and bustle and I just can't wait to get out I come in for work and I can't wait to get out because you are

a self-confessed foodie I need some recommendations of where you eat you've given us one in Manchester for breakfast what was it called Evelyn's

where do you like in Essex are there good spots in Essex everyone always goes to like this is like a new famous spot now called Sheesh and we actually had the restaurant at our wedding you know in the evening of our wedding

Did you have kebabs at your wedding? Yes How fabulous! And I'm not just saying the food is so nice, like the lamb Sheesh and the chicken kebab So it's kind of Lebanese or Turkish? I think it's a mixture, again I think it's a fusion and their food is unbelievable so if anyone's ever in Essex they should definitely try out sheesh no one's ever disappointed in the gosh

sheesh my mates come to essex pure for that reason never mind seeing me let's go they want to go to sheesh i'd go for a bikini wax and sheesh fact i'd go to another jazzle yeah maybe maybe but um okay so so Essex. London, do you get to eat out in London? Not really. I really, really like Rocca in London and Charlotte Street. I've never been, but all my friends love it. Yeah, I do.

I really like it there. It's really kind of dimly lit, isn't it as well? Yeah, it's got a nice view. Yeah, that's it. It's really beautiful. I like Novikov as well. Never heard of it. Never heard of it.

It's a Mayfair. There's an Italian in there. You're fancy. I know, that's it yeah it's really beautiful I like Novikov as well never heard of it never heard it's a Mayfair there's an Italian in there you're fancy I know that's very posh very posh Novikov yeah is it like

Russian oh really oh it does sound like Russian doesn't it yeah there's an Asian area and there's an Italian

and the Italian's so nice really nice atmosphere very homely atmosphere that's really good. Okay. Have you been to Sushi Samba? Yes, years ago I've been. That's quite fun.

That was good fun. That's good fun. I go there with the girls. Okay. Yeah, on a night out in London. That's always fun. That's it really. I always tend to,

if I've got people at my house, we either stay in and cook or we just go somewhere local like Sheesh and there's a restaurant place called Alex's which is really nice in Essex as well. And what's that like?

Just a fish restaurant, really fresh fish. And it's in a really nice area as well, like very green and stuff. So that's really pretty. Oh, nice. Do you get lots of takeaways? Yeah. Yeah, we do.

Me too. Sometimes you just can't bother cooking, can you? What's your go-to takeaway? Chinese. Oh, really? Fuck, you're dirty. I'm dirty. It you just can't build the cooking, can you? What's your go-to takeaway? Chinese. Oh, really? Fuck, you're dirty. I'm dirty. It's like when then

middle of the night you're waking up so thirsty because of the salt. It's like you need water. What do you order on the Chinese? Always a chow mein. Salt and pepper king prawns. I would never order a chow mein.

Really? Never. Salt and pepper prawns. Do you know what I do with chow mein? Shall I tell you what I do? It's horrendous. I have a chow mein and I get grated cheese and I put that on do with the chow mein? I'll tell you what I do. It's horrendous. I have a chow mein and I get grated cheese

and I put that on top of the chow mein and I have mayonnaise with it. Oh my God, judge me. Judge me. Who are you? That's dirty. I don't even know myself right now. I probably would have said that.

Why do you do that? Because I love... One, I'm obsessed with mayonnaise. Yeah. Fuck, if we'd known this, we could have done something. I like cheese. So I don't know.

I don't know why I think noodles and cheese really works what like pasta and cheese yeah yeah do you know what i mean and i've even got mark into it i was so impressed by you i know i put the side down i was eating look at me eating creme fraiche and peaches that is dirty that's your guilty pleasure that's me on a saturday night can't night camp. Have you ever had a Chinese curry? You know, you can buy. Well, it's like a thing now. You can actually buy Chinese curry. They sell it in Tesco now, Indian curry or Chinese curry. What?

What is a Chinese curry? It's just, I don't know. It's what they make in Chinese takeaways, I think. A Chinese curry. Like a catsuit. takeaways i think a chinese curry you can you can buy um a jar of chinese curry um sauce which is different to indian i shall not be trying that i don't think um michelle michelle mix it with mayonnaise i'm so happy we know about i know your dirty secret that's that is a proper dirty secret that no one knows that well now they bloody do

honestly try it I know it sounds disgusting but honestly I think you'll like it everyone should try it

I can't do a lot of mayonnaise so I feel like I'm not if that's your staying in on a Saturday night I'm a dirty girl

I shouldn't be talking about this right now no I love it I think everyone's going to fancy you a little bit more oh no

come on what's your hangover food? It is always a McDonald's. No, hey, I'm not judging. No, judgment. I understand that. What do you get?

The breakfast. Love it. But are you up in time for the breakfast? No, I'm up. Someone else always is. I'm always the one that has a lie in. One of my mates always gets up first. So they always go in the McDonald's room.

Do you think that when they deliver, you you know and you can get it from Uber do you think they'll extend the time for the breakfast no in the States they serve breakfast all day did they good to know good to know so what will you have

I'd have a bacon and egg McMuffin oh I like the sausage and egg oh yeah the sausage and egg and I'd have the hash I'd take the hash brown out and put it on the muffin as well I never eat it separate no I don't like the sausage and egg. Oh, yeah, the sausage and egg. And I take the hash brown out and put it on the muffin as well. I never eat it separate. No, I don't like the hash brown.

Do you not? And I have mayonnaise with it as well. But I do love the sausage and egg McMuffin. I like that. I just want to know where this McDonald's and this charmame with mayonnaise is going on you. I know. I think that's why I put it on the stone when I was in Malaysia, because that's all we're eating all the time.

Noodles with mayonnaise and McDonald's. And that was it. Oh, you were doing the mayonnaise there too? Is that where you found the love for the combo? No, no, I've always found the love.

I've always had the love for mayo. And did you get anybody else involved in it apart from Mark? Yeah, a few of the lads. You know those packet noodles that you get?

Yeah. The packet ones, the really cheap ones. Obviously they're everywhere in Malaysia. You can literally go into a corner shop and they're there.

Yeah. But that was like the go to thing at night and I used to meet the lads and the lads used to have a bit of mayonnaise at the start everyone was in it everyone was in it saving lives, serving mayonnaise and noodles she's one of the lads

are you one of the lads? I am yeah but I think of you as quite a girls girl to be fair I would say I'm a bit of both I am I've got land mates and I've got my best mate girl mates

I don't know I'm a bit honestly I would say 50-50 oh my god I just I kind of want to be you so much

apart from your love for mayonnaise yeah you're like dream girl Mark Wright is a very lucky man yeah he is right that's on record

I'm going to listen to this now that's it thank you so much going to let him listen to this now. That's it. Thank you so much for doing this and sharing your dirty secrets with us. Thank you for letting me into your home. Thank you very much for cooking for me. Pleasure.

Well, Mum? She was just... First of all, she's the prettiest girl I've ever seen. You can't... She's enchanting. Yeah. She's just really bright and enthusiastic and real zest for life.

And she said she'd buy our cookbook, which was really sweet. Of course, yeah. She liked the food, which was great. Did you see that bloody ring? Nearly knocked me out. It was the biggest ring. It was like a fruit pastel. It was huge.

No, what a lovely, lovely girl. She's basically Georgie in our girl. She's just such a lovely girl. I love the fact that she knew how to resuscitate people. That is the best. That's the best that's the best first aid thanks so much Michelle you've been a real treat and such a sweet lovely person yeah and we had such fun and it was a pleasure to have you over yeah I quite like to be her friend

yeah me too yeah she was just such fun mum that's us done with this series bit of a break then and the next series will be coming in the autumn but thank you so much for listening to our podcasts we really really appreciate it we have so much fun doing them yeah even though you moan a lot i know but let's make it two million by the end of the next series that would be nice yeah Thank you to everyone that listens. This is us signing out. I'm Jessie Ware. I'm Lenny, Jessie's mum. In case she didn't know. No, I think everyone knows now.

Okay, darling. Thank you.