Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S4 Ep 4: Stefflon Don

Episode Date: October 31, 2018

According to mum, this week’s guest has more of a potty mouth than me. Stefflon Don joins us for this week’s Table Manners, proving she really is quite the don. We talk music industry, poetry, eating jerk, speaking Dutch and munching on ice (!) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Peloton all-access membership separate. Learn more at onepeloton.ca slash running. Mum, we have a pretty impressive rapper today. Have we? Yes. What's her name? Her name rhymes with Teflon, which I want to understand if she is a big foodie and she likes that brand. She's called Steflon Don. Just tell me, do you think her first name's Stephanie? I know her name is Stephanie. That's quite clever then, Steflon.

But why does she call herself Don? Because she's the Don. Yeah, but that's kind of masculine. Because, mum, you don't mess with Steph London I've seen the picture of her She is beautiful She is gorgeous And she raps really good

See I know nothing about rapping Everyone Do you think she might do a little rap for us? I mean maybe I'm really excited about her I think she's really impressive I think her and me was such a good song Hello Dada.

Oh, there she is. Are you excited about Steph London Bunny? Yeah. She is from, she was born in Birmingham. Oh, they're all bunnies, the rappers. I know. Honestly. At the moment. She was born in Birmingham, lived in Holland. Any bodyguards? I don't know if she's got bodyguards yet.

Don't know. We'll find this all out. And there was the eight outside. She's a rapper. She's a mother. She's a record label. She's a mother. Yeah, she's a record label exec.

Yeah. She's rapped with Drake and Jeremiah and Wretch. And she... When you say she raps with... She raps. What do you mean? They have one verse each but i mean it depends like in the carol concert she could do a little 16 but like in the carol

you know where you give a verse to each person what like in a school play like everyone gets even yeah i don't know when you say she raps with drake how do they how do you rap with someone exactly you take it in turns yeah i guess So it is a bit like the Carol concert. Yeah, exactly. Let's give that analogy to her and see what she brings. Okay, we'll see. She set up her own label and then got signed. So she kind of signed herself and it was a seven figure deal,

which is kind of unheard of now in the industry. Definitely was unheard of when I was getting signed. So I'm just really impressed by her she's an entrepreneur she is killing it and a mobo winner and what because I've never seen her what's her kind of attire is it like Nicki Minaj and uh Cardi B it's like really impressive hair she's absolutely beautiful and so body confident and I think that's really inspiring so we got a bit of a list of what she does eat and what she doesn't eat and very interestingly she likes to bite ice a lot which doesn't really work for a podcast but we'll see how that goes I did

I've got a bit of ice in the freezer um I've done, it said that she loved to jerk and fish. So I've done something that I've never done before because that's how I like to do it, just to make it difficult. Kind of concocted like jerk fish tacos. And I've done it with a kind of avocado lime cream, which actually is just like a really smooth guacamole. I've done it with a pineapple salsa wow i may just try and get a green herb salsa going too if i've got time probably don't have

time and i've done it with coconut rice with a bit of lime zest and oh and then i've done it with um just for the crunch i've just done a really basic kind of vinegary red cabbage and lots of different colored carrots actually haven't it's been really really easy it may taste like shit though um but shout out to missy flynn who did an emergency taco drop because nowhere in hackney has tacos to sell you like the ones the small corn ones that my sister says that you can get in like every corner store in LA couldn't find them anywhere so she kindly sent me a load in an uber with very very hot chilies um and just want to actually give a shout out to Missy and Gabriel who um are responsible for Rita's which was an amazing

restaurant on Mare Street that did the best uh mac and cheese with green chili and they are launching relaunching in bethnal green um in october so please go and eat their food because they are missy does some of the best tequila cocktails in london and gabriel is an amazing amazing chef and they just do really exciting fun food so thank you so much missy for delivering tacos to me when the bloody corner restaurant that is a mexican wouldn't give them to me and i bloody corner restaurant that is a Mexican wouldn't give them to me and I was going to buy it. You wouldn't give me your tacos?

You wouldn't give me my tacos. How tacky. Steph London in Dalston. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. Pleasure. Thank you. It's been a bit of a busy

week for you because you've got secure the mix tape out can you just explain to me why isn't that just an album is there because you've got like you've got even better songs to go on yeah exactly i've got more stuff that mix tape has got like 12 or something songs yeah it's got like 15 songs yeah but like that's in my opinion that's two albums like i'd be like yeah i've just uh i've just fulfilled my album um deal and that's uh that's two albums for you yeah how does it work like i kind of just i feel like a mixtape is a little bit more fun and not as serious less pressure yeah i feel like it's less pressure and it's kind of still more uh getting it's almost like still getting yourself out there,

still making people aware of who you are and still like breaking ground levels, I feel. And I feel like with an album, it's almost like when you're, to me, I wouldn't want to do an album unless I'm a certain height of my career, a little bit more, where I feel like more people gravitate towards it. Are you kidding me? Mum, you've got like 700 something thousand followers. I think people do know you and love you no people do know me but you like i did a little bit of like research on you but like you were brought up in no you you were born in um birmingham yeah well we have missed on the podcast before and mum now thinks every rapper's coming from birmingham um oh yeah i'd missed on the yeah was lovely. Mum really fancied him. It was perfect. So beautiful. He's such a good looking boy. Yeah, he's cute. He is cute. He's really sweet as well. Very polite and lovely.

Are you single? Yeah. Oh no, he's got a lady, hasn't he? I don't know if that one's... He's alright, he's not my type though. He's handsome though. Yeah, he he's handsome He's got a beautiful face Which part of Birmingham Are you from? My mum came from Birmingham Oh I was born in Handsworth Oh really? Yeah

That's where we used to go To the disco At Aston University At Handsworth Yeah But my mum came from Smallbrook You went to Holland Yeah

So I left Birmingham When I was about four Do you speak Dutch? Yeah I'm fluent in Dutch Have you ever decided To rap in dutch yeah i put that in some of my lyrics but it doesn't sound as good as people don't know no not as good but yeah it's all right like artists are the music sounds they've got really big um rap scene as well haven't they did you like it well i was four okay but yeah how long were you there for I was there for 10 years but did I like it yeah but you were like a teenager I think it's um I think it's a good experience for kids

especially learning yeah the schools they are really good very good way better than here the schools that I went to yeah were kids like smoking it like teenage years there because it was just so like even though it was legal no and then you came back and you were in Clapton. Yeah. Like, so kind of you're an East London girl. Well, I came back to Stoke Newton first. Oh, okay. Yeah, so I stayed with my mum's friend.

Did you go to Stokey School? No, I went to a school named Green. Okay. So we moved to my mum's friend's house for a little bit. And her kids were going to a school named Green. So we ended up going there. Right. And then afterwards, after...

But I was always around the east area so my mom was always looking for houses like we was always in and out of it would have been maybe like a bed and breakfast sometimes or whatever oh right yeah it was like that and then um yeah we resigned in clapton four houses later is your mom still there oh no i live with my mom well she lives with you yeah everyone lives with me so my brothers and sisters and how many brothers and sisters do you have um well in the house there's i think four of them so what it you know i i don't know how much you know about this podcast because no not much okay that's fine i'll i'll let you know it's basically i like to turn up sometimes and just that's fine and and i wanted so we cook you dinner and yeah you know we talk about food because that's all i want to talk about and like as much as and as much as i want to, so we cook you dinner and, you know, we talk about food because that's all I want to talk about.

And as much as I want to talk about, I want to talk about all your music stuff, but I really like to talk about food and what everyone likes to eat. And growing up, I guess you've grown up in like three different places. Like, I feel like you must have such a range of kind of food experiences. Yeah. But like, what's your kind of family meal? Like like what's that kind of go-to family meal for you well it used to be chicken and rice but I'm a pescetarian now how long's that been for four or five months how I was before that I was before that for like a year okay yeah it's all right why did you decide to give up meat because it's really bad for you did you watch your netflix documentary i watched everything i already knew that it wasn't good so i knew that i didn't

want to eat meat no more so i literally went and watched everything and i follow all these instagram stuff that talks about it so i could just not eat it anymore do you know i mean my son he doesn't eat meat no more either but he was all right he was not really a meat eater anyway but he was just like yeah i want to get older with you mom i was like yeah well meat is a bit bad for you so maybe maybe i should stop eating me he's like yeah okay you stop eating me i'll stop eating me so we could get old together that's so romantic how old is he he just turned nine oh he sounds sweet yeah he's so sweet so yeah he doesn't need me and he's so happy he goes around telling everyone i'm a pescatarian oh you need to be a pescatarian too oh he's trying to like change the world and like

when my friends come to my house and they're eating meat because obviously everyone else still eats meat yeah i'm so little here and there and then my son will be like to them um you have to be pescatarian and my friends like i don't live in this house i don't have to do anything that's so sweet so okay well like what was your favourite family dish then it was chicken and

yeah obviously chicken rice and beans do you miss it I'm a cheat though because if my mum cooks chicken I'll eat the gravy oh I don't think

that's cheating yeah I think that's okay I eat okay I eat the gravy so I'll have the gravy so I'll have the flavours of what I'm supposed to eat what's so good about the gravy

did you just put something in it? The gravy's great. Oh yeah. If you do a good gravy. Yeah when they cook gravy. It just tastes like chicken. Do you eat ackee and saltfish though? Yeah.

We like that. Do you remember when we went to Jamaica? We had a lot of that. We had ackee. It's a bit like scrambled egg. It's really easy to make actually. Oh is it? Yeah I could teach you how to make it.

Well here they have it in the tin so you live in those. Yeah so I can sort of just go right there. It's pretty expensive I think a tin is like Nine or five pound You just get a tin Put it in Water Well

Unwrap the The label Labeling off of it Just put it in a bowl of Not in a pot with water Let the water go a little bit Over the tin Uh huh

Let them just heat it up Let it sit in there for about So let it still sit in the tin Let it sit in the tin Because it cooks in the tin oh wow yeah in the tin so you you let it boil for maybe i think half an hour or something then you have another pot with a little bit of oil yeah and then you do your veg so you do like um onions tomatoes you could chop them up and some green greens yeah some greens do you just use spinach or like will you be like will you use other greens like oh no i don't i don't think we put

like what do you do then what like just like green peppers um what else can you put in there um what other green um what's that thing called in jamaica we say scallion so i don't know oh okay green green like spring onion spring onion yes that's what it is see jamaican people call it something else and i never knew what it was but yeah then you chop that up put that in there and then you mix it up throw a little garlic yeah put garlic in there and any seasoning yeah some seasoning so you could put black pepper uh you could put some all-purpose seasoning which you could also get mate i hope you don't mind this yeah like basically for the the meal that we've done

tonight like i heard you like jerk Obviously I don't know How to cook jerk But I know how to buy The jerk seasoning Yeah And no I kind of added

A little bit more Like ginger and onion And thyme Okay yeah But I have like Done a bit of a cheat You're having jerk seasoning Fish

But with a little extra Okay And we're doing tacos So it's like jerk fish tacos Okay With bits and bobs And some coconut rice This is the first time

You've cooked jerk fish Well and I don't think I've even done it properly like i mean it's just i promise you it tastes great it tastes fine how do you do your saltfish that's more difficult saltfish so you have to soak it yeah you gotta soak it in water so some people leave it in in water for i don't know how long maybe like a couple hours no you could also just do it the same day so if you don't know how long maybe like a couple hours a day no or you could also just do it the same day so if you don't want to do that overnight thing I think sometimes people

do leave it in overnight you just put the salt water in a pan of water and you you cook it so you turn it on I think on low heat or medium heat

and then you leave it in there for about an hour or two do you like and then you mix it all up no I used to when I wasn't this busy mate I know

and now it's a lot of takeaways right yeah but I used to always cook my mum this busy. Mate, I know. And now it's a lot of takeaways, right? Yeah, yeah. But I used to always cook. My mum cooks a lot. Do you like Callaloo? I love Callaloo. Me too. I love Callaloo.

You can get it fresh around, in Brixton you can. Yeah. So in Holland, did like you have lots of stroopwafel? Oh, stroopwafel, yeah. I'm really like like I'm really impressed That you can speak Like In winter they have

It's called Oliebolle What's that So nice What is it So they have these Stands outside Fresh oliebolle

Which is like It's almost like a dumpling You know like a fried dumpling A little bit But very soft Sweet Yeah Okay

And then with What's that sugar powder called? Icing sugar. Icing sugar, yeah. Nice. We just call it sugar powder in Holland. But yeah, icing sugar over it. Yeah.

And then sometimes it has raisins in there, but it's so nice. It's so soft. And it's a wintery thing. It's a winter thing. So it's only around in the winter. Like in the markets? Or would it be one of those stores? The stores will be everywhere.

Okay. So it would be a store that would just be in the middle of somewhere where the shopping centres are. And does that take you back to kind of winter yeah every time i think of winter i think of that and then they have another thing called paper noter which is a small little biscuits come in like a packet it's like really small like brown and um they're like gin i think slightly ginger but then with a hint of something totally different i can't even explain what it tastes like, but they have that in winter as well. Gorgeous.

And so, I mean, we ask everybody like what would be your like last supper or some people, mum doesn't like it being called that. So like your desert Island meal, like you were going to eat your final meal. It would be your dream meal. Would that be your pudding?

No. Well, if I wasn't a pescatarian. Okay. You're either about to die or you're about to be stuck on an island. Oh, I'm about to be stuck on an island. I would say... I'll go straight into the main because Jamaican people don't really eat stars.

I know. We just eat some main dishes. You have quite just a lot of main dishes. Yeah, just like... Yeah, they'll have like... Go mad. Okay, this is my favourite. Oxtail rice and peas. Do you know what this is my favourite. Oxtail, rice and peas.

Do you know what Oxtail is? Oxtail. Of course I do. I'm from South London. Yes, I do. Thank you very much. Carry on. Not everyone eats that, yeah.

Yeah. Oxtail, rice and peas with a bit of salad on the side. Meaty. Oxtail's got a great taste. I love Oxtail. Do you have macaroni? It's so strong.

It's so strong. It is. Oxtail's got a strong beef. It's meaty. It's hefty. Yeah. Yeah, it's so nice. Okay so strong It is Oxtail's got a strong It's meaty It's hefty Yeah Yeah it's so nice Okay

Oh and dessert Yeah My favourite dessert Is Caramelised banana And vanilla ice cream The contrast Well that is

Not what you're getting tonight You're getting a pavlova I'm afraid I would have made you that I could give you One of my child's mini milks if you really want some ice cream it's all right um we could eat a little bit if you want with dessert i love the contrast of hot and cold so ice cream with something i wish i'd known this we could

have bloody done something what's it what a floating island no the thing that sam likes the coffee on the ice cream oh affogato yeah i that is. So it's ice cream and you just put an espresso shot. Do you drink coffee? Not really. Okay. Well, that's a good job we didn't do that one then. Forget it. But I'm quite hungry because...

I'm starving. Well, I'm always hungry. So actually, I'm just going to put the fish in the... Yeah. Just to warm it up a bit. Can we just because you've started chomping you like

you like eating ice yeah what is this where did it come from why do you do it would you like some more it's not great for a podcast

it's not great for a podcast I'm not going to lie but please go on your ice tastes good sound effects isn't there a particular ice that tastes like shit yeah ice tastes different

all the time yeah no really ice is like all the time yeah no really ice is like dulcet and water I tell you hard dulcet and water why do you eat it

where did you find out that you loved eating ice I started eating ice when I was about 16 okay my mum used to do it and then I followed

I just saw her doing it so then I thought let me eat some ice as well and then just got addicted to it that is like that's a cheap date babe that's sorted but what I found out is when you crave ice it means you're anemic oh really and are you are you yeah because when I take my iron tablets I don't really want to eat ice anymore god get us some spinach quick

I love my eyes need some red meat Yeah Well no meat No no She'll have to have Iron and green vegetables Darling Yeah of course Green vegetables So I can get you

Some more ice If you need some more Yeah I want some more She does darling That ice is great I think she wants some more You're the first like Ice connoisseur we've had

Is it The ice queen The ice queen Darling go and get her Some more ice I'm really worried We're going to run out So what's your name Stephanie Yeah The ice queen. The ice queen. Darling, go and get her some more ice cream. I'm really worried we're going to run out.

So what's your name? Stephanie. Yeah. That's gorgeous. Why the name? And do you use a lot of Teflon cooking equipment? How do you get them from them? So they give them to you for free now? No.

I feel like we should do a call to action. Teflon. You should be giving Teflon some bloody pans. Exactly. They should give me some. action. Teflon. You should be giving Steflon some bloody pans. Exactly. They should give me some. I like Teflon pans. Yeah, they're very good. Yeah.

So why Steflon Don? I feel like such a dick saying it because it's Steflon Don. Yeah. But it's very clever. Yeah, I know. But mum wants to know about the Don. Yeah, because that's quite masculine. Yeah, it is.

Steph London is a little bit. But because I was a rapper first. But mum, you haven't heard her rap. She's phenomenal. So because I'm a rapper first, I feel like if I was a singer, I would probably name myself Steph London. Sounds more like a singer-y.

And if you're a rapper, you're like Steph London. How long did it take to come up with the name? I actually didn't come up with it. So someone else gave it to me. So at the time I had, well well my cousin's friend who was around and he was just he wasn't managing me but he was just like helping me up with people yeah yeah do you know i mean and then he's like yeah but he's come up with a name before of all these rubbish names i don't know how come and give me some of the rubbish ones i remember thinking sugarcane hurricane like no

but as soon as i said them to myself i'm like no i don't mind sugarcane i feel like sugarcane hurricane like no but as soon as i said them to myself i'm like hell no i don't mind sugarcane i feel like sugarcane was all right that was cute but hurricane could be could work with the x-men um okay so steph like it's good so then he come up with a name and obviously he's jamaican as well so he was like i got a name for you so i was so excited i'm like oh my gosh what is it what is it i was so excited over the phone i'm like finally i'm gonna have a name he's like um steph london and i literally went silent i was like what what does that even mean you did it then all right and then he was just like no because this is your name stephanie you're from london it's good it's just good yeah and then i was like no so I was like,

no. So I was like, I'll think about it, whatever. I didn't like it at all. So I told my friends, I was like, listen,

this guy's trying to call me Steph London because you believe it. They're all laughing. They're like, man, what kind of name is that? Then, they just started calling me it.

But also, I didn't really like it as much because I just started rapping. So I was about 18. I just started rapping. I always used to do it for a joke and I never really took it serious so I wasn't really that good.

So I felt like that name is very, you know, done. It's like very... So when, do you feel like the name helped you get better? Yes.

I had to live up to my name. Almost like an alter ego. I had to live up to my name. I was like, there's no way I could have this name and be pants. So is it like, are there like times

when you're really like Steph London and then there's times when you're Stephanie? Yeah. Like what are we're really like Steph London and then there's times when you're Stephanie? Yeah. Like what are we getting tonight? Steph London. Okay. I'm going to go on and then go to go on.

Well, maybe when you've had my meal, maybe we can get to sleep. I've got to ask because I don't know a lot about rapping. But do you consider yourself like a poet of today like you're more like a poet so you are talking about current affairs and your life through yeah through your rap i mean they will say rap is a bit poetry but it is poetry because it rhymes yeah it rhymes won the pulitzer prize i know it's poetry yeah wow, his rap is a bit more... Is it more poetry? Is yours?

No, his one is a bit more... Hers has got a lot of attitude. So is yours about politics or about women? It's about... It's definitely about women. Definitely about women. Opening one is called Little Bitch. Yeah.

Is it sexual? Yeah, a bit. But that's like the Jermaine. No, but is it sexual? Sorry, do I sound like me? Steph, just fucking rap something to her. Like, do one of your lines. You've got to just do one of your raps for me.

Why don't you listen to one? I need to listen to one. It's obviously been quite publicised how much he got signed for and there was this seven figure and i'm really interested because like i felt like deals like that weren't happening anymore in there wasn't until i came along no and then i can you like what yeah that's steph london she's confident no but like I think that's amazing And I think that it's a real kind of almost like And forgive me and tell me if you're like no no no

But I feel like it's a very kind of American attitude Where you're like bang this is what I want This is what I'm going to get Whereas like all of us guys are like apologetic Like oh no Yeah please sign me Yeah sure I'll take five quid Well Jessie take note

Because she's not aggressive I'm totally alright mum I bought a hat She's just confident She knows what she can do I would like to know because I feel like I don't know whether you were before the gigs deal But like something happened And the urban world

Like commands and it's amazing And like it's inspiring and also slightly depressing for acts like me where i'm like literally there going oh god oh shit look i'm pregnant and that's just like ripped anyway um so um are you pregnant i am pregnant oh that's so cute that's cool i mean it doesn't really work when you're in music you might have two kids now yeah and like no career, no I'm joking. When's your next baby? Oh no, I'm not having one till I'm maybe

30. Oh shit, that's so depressing. She sees that as a long way off. I'm not having one till I'm nearly 30. It is a long way off, she's 26 aren't you? Yeah, 26. But I just kind of want to ask what, like, how because I think that's really inspiring.

As a businesswoman, you're, it's commanding something. Good for her. You were a new artist and there was a buzz. And, like, you generated that buzz, obviously, and you struck at the right time. And I think that, like, so many people are so quick to go into deals, aren't they? Because they're just like, cool. And I just kind of want to understand, was it like this masterminding or was it just kind of also was it kind of serendipitous was it just kind of like the kind of music gods and we're on your

side a little bit too I don't know I really want to understand no it was um okay so I've always said growing up I want to get signed for a million pounds so I've always said that actually you say what I've always said I wanted to get signed for a million pounds so i've always said that actually you say what i've always said i wanted to get signed for a million pounds so i've always said that like when i was maybe 15 i've just always said that i was nobody i didn't have nothing i didn't know who i was but i think i just used to always um here american rappers always say like a million a million like you know with little wing with his emily emily i was like you know i should get signed for a million that would be sick so i always had that in my head that i always want to get signed for a million so when the deals came i was always like no i don't want to get signed i don't know i don't want that the deals at the beginning were

not for a million then no i had deals on the table for a year and a bit so a year and a bit people were bidding she thought yeah all right mom hang on jesus no no yeah well no my mom was different she's like we need like, we need to sign, we need to sign, we need to tell money now, we need to tell money, Stephanie. She's got a lot of people

to look after as well. The power of saying no is amazing, isn't it? Yeah, I think that's true. I was never eager or hungry for a deal. No.

I was more... So how did you keep yourself going and support yourself? Just how I always was. I used to do hairdressing. And cake decorating, which we need to talk about. Well, I did cake decorating for a little bit. Kind of more did it as a hobby.

And then some people would ask, like, can you make me a cake? And then I would obviously charge. But it was started off as a hobby, just watching Food Network channels. And I'd be like, oh, I wanna learn this. Cause I'm very creative. So if I see something, I'd be like, oh, I wanna learn this. A mechanic fixing a car, oh, want to learn this because i'm very creative so if i see something i'll be like oh i want to learn this a mechanic fixing a car oh i want to learn this good for you

yeah because i ask like a billion questions so i always oh shit sorry i don't think about your hair on the tape it's fine oh my god jessica sorry okay carry on yeah so um back to the deal basically yeah i had a couple of deals on the table. I had like previous managers who were more like trial managers. So they wasn't really my manager at the time. They just really wanted to manage me. I wasn't looking for a manager. It was just like, yeah, we like what you're doing.

Can we manage you? And he was like, no. So how did they know about you? Did you do a demo or something? No, I just had stuff on YouTube. So I had little videos. Okay, stuff on YouTube. Yeah, just like I would always remix people's songs, do a demo it would be no i just had stuff on youtube so i've had little videos okay stuff on youtube yeah just like i would always remix people's songs do a video to it and um it's smelling good darling i don't know if it's gonna be in here but i think it's gonna be great

yeah and um they was the one taking me to labels because they were they already had previous artists who's done well like years ago so they know a lot of people in the labels so they would always take me there for meetings and that's when i got introduced to label talk and blah blah blah and anyway so so which label are you on now so she's got her own label she doesn't talk about mine yeah 54 london it's called 54 lond Wow So yeah They were taking me to labels Anyway I was just on trial period with them Wasn't really satisfied With what they was doing

So left them And Started to just Forget about labels for now Focus on what I'm doing Because I always knew That I wanted to get signed for a million And their

First Their first offer was pretty high though I think it was at Two something or three something So it was already high Jesus So you got signed for a million Yeah

And some money Good for you Yeah But yeah So then My deal went universal So that means that There were so many labels bidding for me

For so long They didn't get why i wasn't signing they were so confused they were like how is this girl still not signing and they're just they're just literally scared that you're gonna go off to someone else so it keeps on upping the yeah good so they keep upping it and they keep doing more what you want and like if a lot of things are changing the contract they were just like yeah okay cool fine all the percentages that i was dropping they was like yeah cool fine and do you feel you can do whatever you like, yeah, okay, cool, fine. All the percentages that I was dropping, they were like, yeah, cool, fine. And do you feel you can do whatever you like? Yeah.

No one tries to boss you around or anything? No, never. My label's pretty, they literally let me do whatever I want. But you know, when Jessie talked about you, I realised you were quite a powerful woman because you've got what you want, you've got your deal that you wanted,

all of this. And she said you can't mess with her. But you're so sweet and very feminine and very lovely so you're not an aggressive person you just know what you want and you just keep calm and keep going till you get it exactly and you have to remember if a label wants you they want you because they see so much potential yeah so if you know that then you know that you're worth maybe 10 times more than the hospital it's true um i did not know i wish i knew stephanie yeah she needs to be seven years ago she could take mary portis on i'm telling you

no but no but what i want to but actually help yourself by the way but just like it's and also if you're not hungry no worries but it's like a taco thing what is this um oh so that's like a green like a salsa thing okay so we've got fish over there with like jerk seasoning and ginger and onions and garlic fish in here no nuts no okay let's take this fish so that's jerk fish but i mean you need to put it in your taco here. And then you've got your tacos and you've got a little bit of like kind of avocado lime cream, pineapple salsa, yeah, cabbage. A bit of like, it's basically, it's not coleslaw, it's just a bit of crunch. And I don't know if that's any good at Scotch Bonnets or pepper sauce in case you like hot stuff. Me neither.

With getting signed for so much, do you feel like the pressure is more, though, because then there's more expectation? Not really, because the songs that I play to them, which they signed me for, have still not been released yet. Oh. So I've still got that to come.

So what has been released? don't understand Just other stuff That I was working on And have been working on But not the songs That they actually Signed me for So you're quite prolific Like you

They signed me for Three songs That's not out yet They must be biggans Who are some of your Favourite girls out there Singing at the moment Well Ray

I think she's dope She's wicked Yeah I like Mabel Well me and Ray Mabel got a song Ring ring No I'm not No what are you on Cigarette Cigarette That's really good I think she's dope. She's wicked. Yeah, I like Mabel. Well, me and Mabel got a song, obviously. Ring Ring. No, I'm not on Ring Ring. No, what are you on?

Cigarette. Cigarette. That's really good. Thank you. Yeah, I think they're killing it. They're good? Yeah, it's all girls, really, innit? Yeah.

Okay. It feels exciting. So, okay, do you think you've got a bad table manner? Me? Like, is there anything you do you think or you don't like in others my table manners yeah i eat like a hooligan do you i eat really quick as well oh so do i but i think that's from having a baby is it i feel like you were just everything's quick yeah yeah is that what it is well i don't know it's like i never used to be like that you kind

of you rush and because you've always got something to do i don't think that's a terrible you don't think that's a terrible... You don't think so? No. Imagine if you're on a date though and he's meeting you for the first time. Imagine if it's a bad date and you're being happy. This girl done ate the whole plate in two seconds.

It's a bad date. She was hungry. I think that's attractive. Where would you go on a date? Where would I go? Have you got a favourite restaurant? I'm not bothered. No, I'm not that fussy about restaurants.

Do you prefer home food? Yeah. Yeah, I like being home, eating food. What's your Christmas like? Do you have like the whole big Jamaican... Everything on the table. Yeah, we have everything on the table. And obviously, because I live with like a billion people,

our houses are always big. So we have like a big dining table usually and just a lot of kids. And just, well, before when we first moved to England, we didn't really have a house and the house that we did have wouldn't really be big or wouldn't really be nice enough to be inviting people. So we would always go to my cousins and my aunties.

But now it's all at my house all the time now. They must be really proud of you. Yeah. And you must be really proud of yourself. Yeah. Yeah, I'm proud. I mean, you moved around a lot. And you were saying, yeah, B&Bs.

And yeah, now you're kind of providing for your whole family. And there's quite a lot of you. There is a lot. I'm like, you know, growing up, you're like, yeah, I your whole family Yeah And there's quite a lot of you There is a lot I'm like you know Growing up you're like Yeah I'm happy I've got all these Brothers and sisters And now I'm like

Why mum Do you have so much kids Jesus Christ Do any of them Would be a lot cheaper Yeah man Two of us Do any of them

Want to be in music My sister sings Have you had her On any of your songs yet No not yet Would you But we're doing something Yeah

Nice Yeah we're doing something yeah nice yeah we're doing something my brother raps as well people know him his name is dutch he's out there and then my cousin he sings raps as well my other brother raps as well he like the jackson five yeah almost would you do like a family song no lauren mabula has all her family on lauren mabula yeah yeah okay my family we're a bit different so like everyone's got different personalities and it would just not no it would be like why can't i sing this part it'd be like no but i want to do this no but i want to do this do you like singing yeah i like singing did the singing come before the rapping yeah I was singing before rap but I knew

that I wanted to be a rapper first to the audience at least because you can't be a singer trying to rap it's a bit

but you could rap sing yeah right what does your son think of it all does he just think it does he oh he's so annoying

when I go to school or anywhere like today football look there's my mum there's my mum. There's my mum. He'd be like, look, that's my mum. But now because he knows I don't like when he always says my name,

so he goes, I see him go after him. That's their vlog. Oh, bless him. Would you like something sweet to eat? Would you like a bit of pavlova? Yeah, I have some pavlova. And this food was nice, by the way. Oh, please, you had like nothing.

Yeah, I don't eat a lot. Yeah, look at her. Is that okay? No, I don't eat a lot. I'm ticked, but I don't eat a lot, innit? I'm always like that. You're not thick. I'm ticked. I'm ticked.

It's okay to be thick it it is just cut it this is so good i can't wait to eat this well you're very sweet so are you more of a sweet tooth person i am jesse you think we need a proper knife though i'll use that knife i've got it i've got a knife i've got a sharp. Is that too much for you? Yeah, but I'll just eat a little bit. I can give you a smaller bit. Yeah, I have a smaller bit. Do you want more strawberries instead of blackberries? Yeah.

What I do want to know, like last things, when is the album coming? Next year. I think I'll be ready for the album. I think everyone else will be quite ready too. She keeps them. She's a tease. I know. She keeps ready to cry she keeps them she's a tease i know she keeps them waiting she knows what she's doing she's a clever woman i know thanks so much for doing this i know you didn't really know what you were walking no i didn't know i know i was coming to your house is it all right it's cool

yeah it's been it's been an okay couple of hours i've always wanted to do come down with me so i feel slightly a little puff. Give us a score there. I don't want to hear. You can give a score when you leave the house. Wow, darling. I'm not going to lie. Steph didn't eat that much of my food.

The food was absolutely gorgeous. It was okay. No, I thought it was stunning. They loved your pavlova. Darling, everyone loves a bit of meringue and cream. It's true. It's not difficult, is it? It's true.

Well, what do you think of Steph? Beautiful. Has more of a potty mouth than you. Yes. The rap was all about sucking and female parts, but she's pretty much a feminist, I would say. Would you? Yeah.

Even though she's got a song called Little Bitch? I think that's OK. Should I start calling you Little Bitch? No, don't call me... Don't, darling. Do you think Steph's going to get some ackee and saltfish now? Probably.

But I have worked out her name now. Steph London. No, Mum. Steph Lon Don. Yeah. But it's all a play on London darling. No I know that mum. But I don't think you did. You didn't imply that before she came on. Mum because it's really obvious. Oh okay. You know how it's spelt though. S T E F F L O N. Yeah. Steph

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