Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S6 Ep 2: Mark Ronson

Episode Date: May 1, 2019

Mum’s famous chicken soup always comes out for the big dogs, so it was the obvious choice for this week’s guest, artist/producer/every award winning Mark Ronson.Over a meal of matzoh balls & latkes, we compare Bar Mitzvah celebrations, hear all about Mark’s mums famous casserole, what it is like working with Gaga, and his go-to meal after having won all the awards this season. Eat it up x#WednesdayIsTableManners Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm currently here on my own. My mum has just text on the group Table Manners WhatsApp saying I hate Dalston so I don't know where she is. She may be stuck in traffic or she may just be mithering us as she does every day. And as actually somebody pointed out on the reviews, because my mum is one of those people that reads every review. I learnt that a long time ago that you just don't read anything. But my mum brought up yesterday that apparently somebody said that they're sick of hearing my mum be mean to me and I completely agree with that.

So thanks so much to that person, that good Samaritan. Thank you. Yeah, we're waiting for mum. I've got my baby here who's my co-host at the moment and he's not piping up just yet. Mum's late. And if I was late like this then she would absolutely kill me and say Jessica a lot of times but yeah she's late she's bringing

chicken soup we've got Mark Ronson coming today so we've decided to give him a completely Jewish meal mum thinks that he's very observant because he doesn't eat shellfish or pork so um we and it's passover at the moment it's just the end it's finishing tomorrow so we've decided to do a pay sack light lunch full of mum's chicken soup with matzo balls and thank god for panza's deli for coming to the rescue for a tired mum that is me and i was given the task of making lacquers and i just couldn't be bothered. So I asked Panzers to deliver some and kindly they have delivered beautiful latkes, smoked salmon, sour cream, apple sauce. And I really, really, really appreciate it. Thanks so much, Panzers. You're the best.

Oh, and matzo, which is the best. You've got to have that crunkled into your chicken soup. And it's obviously the Passover matzah. Thank you, Panzer's Deli, for coming to the rescue for me because I couldn't face frying up a load of latkes this morning. And I'm sorry, Mark Ronson, if that means that I haven't made enough of an effort. But I feel like my mum's chicken soup will suffice.

Obviously, I feel like everyone knows Mark Ronson. He's been about for such a long time, even though he looks kind of ageless. So I know my mum's going to ask him about Amy and kind of talk wistfully about her. And I hope she doesn't say anything about it. I know she's going to go like, Amy, like she's our family member. And obviously, he's just won an Oscar, a Grammy, a Golden Globe. I think he won them all, didn't he?

For Shallow from A Star Is Born. So I'm he won them all didn't he um for Shallow um from A Star Is Born so I'm sure we can all talk about that you know mum means business when she's bringing out the chicken soup look who else have we brought out the chicken soup to Jay Rayner Dermot O'Leary and Mark Bronson big players ones that mum wants to impress so I mean I feel like the chicken soup is a perfect route into good gossip. Hi. Hi, how are you doing? Hi.

I'm so pleased to meet you. Hi. My mum and I are sick of each other because we did a podcast last night. I wasn't going to say that. No, you just say, I fucking hate Dawson. Ison i hate dawson okay where do you live clapham now you know why mark ronson thank you so much for doing this when i feel like you have a really busy promo schedule at the moment actually today's pretty mellow and i'm just going to the studio after this but yeah no i've been wanting to do this for a while so thank you so sweet

pleasure did you do a yo-yo night last night we did this thing called club heartbreak okay which you're doing go yes yeah which is like a little bit in the theme of this new record because it's my record late night feelings is a bit of like a it's a breakup record sort of, but from like a DJ's point of view. So it's kind of like emo dance music. Listen, it's nothing you haven't made or whatever. Womack, Womack, Teardrops, it's kind of ones you can cry on the dance floor. Exactly.

Okay. And any Drake or Robin song pretty much. But yeah, so we did it. So we did one last night, like an impromptu one, and Seb came and played, and that's why it had the old yo-yo vibe. And Rommie from XX played. Nice. She DJed the first one with me in LA,

because she was out there helping me work on my album. And she's written on the record, no? She's written on the record, and she wrote the Silk City song, Electricity, as well. Yes, Electricity, amazing. Yeah, which was so huge. Yeah, it was cool. You've had an all right few years i had it's been it's

been okay but i feel like i have no life but yeah oh really well no i mean i just i moved to los angeles because all my work was there and you know i was traveling so much between london and la and i just thought let me just come here it's it's not maybe my favorite place to live but i'll just work really hard put my head down for like three or four years. And now I'm kind of at the tail end of that and trying to figure out if I want to stay there or not. Where would you go? I think New York. Really?

New York is like my hometown. I love London. I was born here, but New York is the hometown. I mean, do you still have the energy for New York? I think so, yeah. Good for you. I feed off it. But probably because I grew up most of my life.

Whereabouts? You're used to it. In Manhattan? Yeah. When we first moved there, when my mom moved there, I was eight. We lived on 90th and Riverside. And then we grew up just around the Upper West Side. So where did you go for Jewish food?

It was people's houses. People's houses or people's houses there was there was there was a delicatessen i think is still there the uptown called fine and shapiro which was like the kind of place you go get a vat of matzo ball soup like you know eight quarts deep and uh and then yeah and then we would just go to passover and breaking the fast and friday night dinners at friends houses and friends of my mum's. Is your mum a good cook? I've met your mum.

We met at a Grimmy party. It was before a Brit. Was it before a Brit? It was the night before a Brit. Yeah, and you brought your mum as your date. It was her birthday. And she was so glamorous and she's really erudite, very glamorous and beautiful and lovely yeah she

is but not a great cook she's not like she has you don't need to be in new york no she has a few specialties i think like like casseroles okay i think i remember at some point we would get casserole for breakfast before school sorry the soundtrack of my son gagging on my boobs everyone has to get fed please he could never suffocate from this boob he's very content right now yeah let's just yeah let's hope yeah okay yeah so it's casseroles um yeah that was you know she had five kids so for her it was about yeah where do you come in that i'm the oldest so her my dad had three then she remarried had two so you're definitely like making a connoisseur's food at that point like you want to like make something that goes in a

giant tray you can store in the freezer yeah so that was that was that vibe but um yeah my uh we had we had home-cooked food it's your dad American too my dad is English and he's he lives here and your mom's American no they? No, they're both English. They're both English. Yeah, but my mum moved to New York when I was eight and my sisters were six. So, yeah. But my family here is pretty, like, observe Friday night dinner all the time and, you know, they're, like, pretty religious and stuff.

Do you go to shul? I do, but not, like not like regularly i found this kind of interesting usually i would be pretty cynical this new agey type shul in los angeles where like you go and everyone's wearing white and singing like songs by martis yahoo and you're like oh this isn't wait and but there's a weird thing because you're like wait but if you're in shul the minute the songs are slightly pleasing to the ear, you feel like you're cheating. No, it's supposed to sound rubbish and boring.

I always notice when you go to shul, there's everybody there up to the age of the bar mitzvah, then there's this giant hole from 13 to 35 until people have kids. The thing that I thought was interesting about this synagogue that I went to in L.A. was that there was a lot of people in their like 20s and like it just had a youthful vibe. So I go there occasionally. And did you have a bar mitzvah? I did, yeah.

So was it a big American? It was a really like goodbye Columbus embarrassing American affair. I want to know. Tell me what. So what time was your bar mitzvah? In the morning on the Saturday? It was in the morning on the Saturday. Did you you have a lunch then an evening thing you know it like there was and there was a there was a what was your entertainment that's what i want to know well there was it must

have been it was in a fairly orthodox synagogue where like most of the kids that i grew up with all went to like slightly liberal synagogues and they all had their hebrew spelled out phonetically in english and that kind of vibe so this was pretty full-on so like a lot of people who came to my bar mitzvah had never maybe seen a circumcision firsthand before so they got to see that which was nice hold on you got circumcised no not me no all right i was like jesus no no no it was like the opening act oh you're kidding they do it on the saturday morning they do it saturday in the shore wow it's like front row don't wear white we said on the no i'm just um there was they do like a public circumcision yeah i've never heard of that i guess they just maybe it's not a regular thing

but i think it's like if the oil i don't know that was it didn't seem shocking at the time. Now it seems slightly scarring. Best warm-up ever. Yeah. And then we had the lunch. You know, a lot of family from England and everything came in. And then there wasn't like an entertainment like now where kids have like Ja Rule and 50 Cent play their things. But I jammed with my stepdad.

Oh, you jammed. I had a DJ. Were you DJing at 13 then? No. no no i wasn't djing until a bit later but my stepdad is a musician you know he's in the band foreigners so we played hot-blooded and then uh i actually wrote a little two-page thing for this book bar mitzvah disco that came out like 10 years ago where people wrote about these extremely like ridiculous 80s and 90s bar mitzvahs so it kind of it's actually a funny book and there's some really embarrassing pictures of like kids

in the 80s with like the blown out moose hair you know like 13 but um the thing i do really remember is that there was a statue of like it looked like a stone amadeus who started suddenly break dancing to rock me Amadeus like came alive that was like that was like as over the top as did you have an ice sculpture we did it Alex's vomits I think that's where the budget and the shit belly dancer that I had a belly dancer with a big appendix she was the most pale woman I've ever seen in my life and she was about 60 she probably had a few like ribs taken out for the maybe craft so can you tell us about your Seder that you did this this this year

yeah so we were in um we were in the desert for Coachella because I had to go because uh I have this label and King Princess is this artist who's amazing yeah she's really great and it was her first Coachella so um I missed the first weekend so I went out and then Saturday Ezra from Vampire Weekend said like should I have a Seder because I'm out in the desert and I thought yeah that'd be nice it would be strange to obviously not have one um so so we threw it and it was it was a lot of Jews a lot of non-Jews a lot of confused people but just like passing around the Haggadah like everybody just reading English Hebrew whatever they could kind of manage and I think he filmed some of it for the video that they're doing for this life so I

think there's like a bit of like a say to so it's uh it was it was very cute but you could just go to Gelson's and get all the food I should have thought yeah yeah no whoever prepared it did a good job yeah so you grew up with well there was five five of you siblings yes like were any of them good cooks did they kind of take take over from your mom in the kitchen i think we all took off to my mom in the fact that we don't really cook but i think that now that charl that Charlotte has had two children, my sister, she's getting into preparing food. And I think, like, it's something I'm excited to do. Like, I'd like to be able to have a couple go-to meals or something like that.

But my dad, who lives here, he's, like, kind of the cook in the, you know, because he's remarried out of him and my stepmom. He enjoys making like the Sunday roast and chicken. And he's got three kids here. But do you miss having Sunday? Do you like Sunday roast? I love it. Benny Blanco says it's his worst.

He doesn't understand it. He thinks Thanksgiving meal, he just doesn't get it. Neither does Hannah. She hates those big meals. It's my favorite. In LA, Sunday roast doesn't make a whole lot of sense because it's so hot all the time i guess but yeah i still that's something i definitely miss about and just like the communal spirit of the sunday roast like whether you're having at home or you're

going to some like big pub it's just such a nice part of like sunday so you can't you can't cook at all or what i mean i can make like i mean i can like i have a couple things i was i was doing this paleo diet for a minute so i learned how to prepare a couple like pretty good things on that hard work though right it's a lot of preparation so what was your paleo food i can make like these chocolate brownies that weren't brownies that you would swear were that were like just like date cacao powder and all this stuff like just some i mean i can grill a piece of sawfish or something you know what's in your fridge then bottle of sansa well i have like seven people living in my house right now so there's a lot of things in the fridge because they're all a little more um

grown up in their eating habits but um yeah the fridge is pretty stuffed why do you have seven people in your house um because it's a big house because it's a big house and i'm not there that much so i have friends and musicians and kind of transient people that need somewhere to stay that's kind of you don't you just want them all to clear off when you've come back from tour you or do you like it because it's not i kind of don't really mind it i got this house when i moved to los angeles it's a little big for me because i was like not to get all morose but i was married at the time and i thought it was maybe the family house and then i'm kind of in it and you know i've got a guest house and i always have friends visiting from england or something or family so

it's nice i don't know how hungry you are. I'm actually really hungry. Can I put the lacquers on? Can you put the lacquers in, Mum? Thank you. Thank you. What is your desert island meal, last supper? Mum read in the Daily Mail yesterday.

Yesterday, Mum was executed in Texas, and they've cut back on the last supper now. He just has to have the prison food.'s terrible well he was an i think he was he'd done a disgusting thing oh really so i don't know how you feel i mean i mum mum kind of thought maybe he didn't deserve it yeah i guess i'm picturing like kind of like wrongfully executed like the wrong guy on trial just wanted to know this is a terrible guy yeah so yeah what would be your desert island meal last supper along with a drink of choice yeah i guess there's two schools of thought right you want something that's going to take a long time to eat just to keep it going a little bit i don't

know if you're going to take it it's very seriously yes i guess do you get the seven course meal like you can go seven course yeah um i my favorite I think if I had to really just pick, can it be like a favorite restaurant or is it favorite? It can be a favorite dish from a favorite restaurant. It can be, just go with it. I really think that my favorite restaurant probably is this restaurant, Bar Pitti. Oh, I love Bar Pitti. Oh, in New York.

In Brennan. Is it West? It's on Bleeker. It's on the corner. yeah yeah i love it too and i think i mean i've been eating there since i was like 20 years old and there's like a few dishes in there so there's the rigatoni pt there which is like this turkey sausage cream sauce and peas which is really great they have like wonderful like sautéed mushrooms and spinach and punterella salad and, you know, branzino.

I'm not sure which one I would do on the last one. So what, that's your whole meal from Bar Pitti? You just basically go to Bar Pitti? Or is that just the starter? Or they could bring it to the prison or whatever. Yeah, fine. What would be your pudding? I don't know why I'm treating this like this really thing. Like I'm definitely being executed. Like it's just a desert it's desert island not

yeah don't think about execution okay so so maybe i won't carb load if i have to still live after and you want to look good on the island it's true just in case yeah so yeah so that would be the that would be the meal for sure and they have a really nice like chocolate mousse dessert yeah so it's basically this one place i love that i think so yeah so where else do you love to eat in new york or do you is that the place you'll go in new york i have like a couple super go-to spots raoul's is another great restaurant on prince it's a kind of brasserie that's been there since like the early 70s like a lot of history and it's very cool I live near the Odeon which isn't the classic sort of like it was like the first restaurant

really in Tribeca the first McNally restaurant like in the mid 70s it's like where all the Saturday Night night live like cast members belushi and acroyd used to go for the after parties it was like this folkloric i like the place that have a little bit of history actually is that kind of like joe adams was in in the west yeah they've moved it oh really down the road it's really odd yeah um sweet so you're a sweet or salty person both i mean i have a complicated relationship with sugar i feel like and i well i just feel like growing up in england this is like kind of romanticized ideal of like cabri's chocolate like it's good oh you just he just likes sweets like no one

actually says like no you have a crippling addiction to sugar which is basically well i think that's what we all have i mean they've done tests with rats and test tubes before where they put cocaine in one store and sugar in the other and the rats go back to the sugar every time like i love sweets biscuits all that kind of stuff i'm trying to exercise self-control in those things because you're like it's not a weight thing no i think it's just like i think it's just something yeah that i just know that i like can overindulge in like anything so what's on your rider then do you have something on your rider that like you demand that well not demand but like you need that like your sweet fix no but i remember when i first started coming back to

england in 2007 when i had that album version out and i hadn't been in england in a while so i was like rediscovering my kind of you know my bond to this country and i remember being asked in an interview what i missed about london and i said curly whirly so people would throw them on stage and like if if you get enough velocity on a Curly Whirly, like while you're DJing, it can kind of be a bit like, you know. I also remember I used to play bass with Jimmy Fallon on tour. Did you? I loved Jimmy Fallon. Yeah, and we opened up for the Strokes on this short tour.

So Jimmy, of course, was this like pretty boy on Saturday Night Live. All these rock fans either kind of like didn't mind or they hated him so we were playing this outdoor gig in uh boca raton for some reason and they had sweets everywhere because it was an outdoor shopping mall these hard candies and i just remember like dodging hard candies for the entire duration of the set isn't that like a Sephardic bar mitzvah though that's what they do yeah they know the Israelis throw sweets at the end of you and you said you must yeah I guess I really do have a complicated relationship with sugar either ducking it or when you came back in 2007 is that when you worked with Amy no I worked with Amy a little bit before

that in 2006 but I had a album my first album that came out and didn't do anything in the states and had like a kind of minor hit here the song ui so i started to come back to england more and more and i was like oh it makes sense that i have like this bond to this place because i've never i just never acknowledged i've spent most of my life growing up in new york so that's how i kind of was here more, met Lily Allen and Amy, and just became a bit more entrenched in London, and then I kind of came back for good for 10 years.

Oh, and then you've moved back again. Yeah. So the music scene, is it more vibrant in L.A. or here now? Right now, L.A. has become like an epicenter of just everybody's there and songwriting there's always going to be super interesting amazing things happening in london new york and all these other places the industry it feels like for making music is very much in la so um this record comes out this week no it's june June 21st. Oh, okay. This is the

single with Licky. Yeah. Yeah. Is it Licky or like? Licky. Is she Swedish? Yeah. So Swedish people say like Ljöke. Like I can't even say it. Like the Y is like a kind of, yeah, but I just hear everyone say Licky. Leaky. Do you want soup? Yeah, let's have soup. Are you a two matzo ball or what? I could do two, I think. There's going to be a lot of slurping on these. Oh, yeah, don't worry.

It's okay. It's fine. And then we've got matzo crunching. So I like to crumble matzo into my chicken soup. Okay. You don't have to do that. I've been kind of a bit conservative in the portions. I couldn't think of a meal that I would honestly rather have at this point. Like the tiny bit hungover, emotionally depleted.

Got it. You just needed to pick me up. Well, look, you can take a little VAT home with you if you want. Jewish penicillin, it really does sort it out. I've had so many situations where I'm completely neurotic and I'll lose my voice the day before a big show or something my mum will be like chicken soup's in an uber it's coming to you and I swear it sorts you out I don't know if it's just kind of a you know kind of placebo effect side plates I've actually got

some okay but this is Pesach have you got the red actually um do you know Casey Musgraves the country the American country I don't know her, but yes, I know of her. She has this song, Slow Burn. I feel like you should check it out. You dig it. But she came to Los Angeles to work about a year ago, and she got really sick, like, literally the second she landed. And I was kind of, you know, bummed because we had been planning it for a while,

and I was dying to work with her. And then I said, can I send you anything? Can I send you some chicken soup? And she was like, no, I'd take a pizza and some weed, which was kind of amazing. I was like, oh, she's very funny. Did you ever write together? No.

She was too stoned. We wrote the chorus to this song this great songwriter named ilse who i adore oh yeah so you know i've written with her we've never got anything together but um she wrote nothing makes like a heart i know things and most of my record you know with the other people involved in and she's featured on your record too she's featured and she wrote this hook right there on the spot kind of like i don't need nothing but you and a little bit of weed i can't get high without you like really cute like good song which may or may not be on somebody's record soon has there been a bit of a come down since kind of

award season because that was so intense and amazing. And you were just having to get up on stage every time. You know what? Like, the awards season was incredible, and it was completely surreal, even so much to the point where, like, it's almost like I have, like, a tiny bit of a disassociative, like, thing with it. Like, it feels like not, like it didn't happen. I mean, I have, like, amazing memories of, like, being there with, you know, Gaga and Andrew White and Anthony Rosomundo and sharing in that thing. I think I was also pretty stressed to be finishing my album at the same time.

It wasn't like we're going out and celebrating and then taking a week off. It was like, great, we're going to go to this thing on Sunday night and then I'll see you at the studio at noon on Monday. But it was incredible. I mean, honestly, the fact that winning an Oscar is so far from the realm of whatever I ever had planned out. The Grammy would have been beyond the wildest dreams. You know what I mean? So it's an amazing thing, and I'm super grateful for it. But I'm not really one to sit back and count. Had you worked with Lady Gaga before? I had, yeah.

He did her whole record. Oh, he did her whole. We met. I did her album before that. I wish the Florence song had been a single. That's a nice song. It's such a lovely song. And I love that kind of interaction that was on the film.

I mean, I am obsessed with Gaga, especially after that film on Netflix. Yeah, have you ever met her? No. Is it 40 feet from, what's it? No, it's 5 foot 2. 5 foot 2. 40 feet from the back backing singer song.

It's so good, and it's all about them making the record. Was that quite hard to have cameras all the time? Because it kind of was a bit waltz and all. You barked at her. Yeah, because she was barking and i was like hey listen i'm the one like keeping everybody like at bay for you don't put me in with the bunch of the with the with the parasites but we got so close during that record because you don't really get to make records like that so much anymore one producer the artist you really like all the time i get to do it i do it i

get to do it more than maybe certain other people i mean james ford obviously does it um yeah rick rubin i guess but yeah i so we spent you know really like five months in pretty close quarters and got like close like sibling close you know so yeah of course there's going to be like a moment where you're going to bark at each other but um yeah i really had a good time making that record i want to know did she ever cook for you i can imagine that gargoyle would bring food to the studio she would she was really cooking like she'd call she'd be late to the studio she's like sorry i'm just marinating the chicken and then she'd like come over and she'd like cook for everybody even like the kind of engineer she's like got that italian kind of like den mother um vibe were you in shangri-la then we're in shangri-la which is so kind of gorgeous it's amazing yeah it's um it's in malibu it's rick rubin's place

do you want another matzo ball i might get some yeah oh yes mom it's good it'sibu, it's Rick Rubin's place Do you want another matzo ball? I might get some, yeah Oh yes, mum it's good It's going to make him feel a bit better The soup was amazing I don't know if I said that on the record, but the soup was amazing. Thank you. Yeah, you need to say that.

Thank you so much. No, you don't. Well, for the listeners. I think, no. It's the one thing I confidently make. It's fucking good, Mum. Good, darling. She only brings it out for the big guns.

Jay Rayner we had. That is horseradish yogurt, but that is creme fraiche. Yes, thank you. How do you take your latke um sometimes with apple sauce sometimes with creme fraiche uh i mean you're giving me apple sauce no i don't need it and you know what honestly like a good latke sometimes is like nothing i like latkes sort of like especially for new york is is almost like a slice of pizza. It's like on the go food that you can walk with.

I don't, don't mind. Do you still go to, what's it called? Finn and Shapiro? No, fine and Shapiro. No,

that's, that's sort of uptown. There's a couple, there's second Avenue deli, which was a really iconic place. Is it still there? It's on 33rd now. It moved.

Yeah. The guy, someone was shot. Yeah. The original owner was shot. Do you want some roe, by the way? I'm okay, thank you. And then the one Russ and Daughters downtown is amazing. And then the cafe that they have is clever because they've sort of made a bit of a nouveau hipster spin on some of the, like, they've all got, like, slightly irreverent names, like Hebe Toast or something.

Yeah, I'm guilty and I do go there. And when you come here, I don't think I've asked you this, I do have baby brain at the moment, so when you come here, where do you eat? I have baby brain too. Do you? And I have no excuse. But yeah, where do you eat when you come here?

I love, obviously, Indian food because you can't get as much quality of Indian food in the state. So where do you go for your Indian? Well, I mean, I love like just Dishoom and just for, you know, whatever, just where everybody goes. And then obviously the gym kind of like for the slightly fancier vibe. And then there's a place called the Regency Club, which is... In Wembley. Yeah, it's a little bit further north. Did Jay Paul take you there?

No, but it became like a bit of a... Like the Palmers all go there and, yeah. Yeah, like Seb, Lily, like it's like this thing and they go, and they call it, the nickname is the Cosmic Cutlet because they have a really good lamb cutlet. Oh, right. Yeah, you just take the tube from what is it near is it like Wilsdon I can't remember Neasden is it no it's Queensbury

do you think you've got good table manners I think you have to what don't you like in other people's table manners like what's the worst thing that I don't well I don't mind so much because I know not everybody was raised especially like growing up in England where people are a little more strict and then you go to America, it's like kids were all like whatever it was. I understand that not everyone was raised with the same rules, but worse than bad table manners is people that are rude to wages. I agree. It's tough when you're out with someone that you like you've known for

a long time and you've definitely decided in your head is a good person and then you have to like find that but well how do i justify that there yeah i have to say those latkes are very very good they're great what did you eat after you won the grammy or the Oscar, is there a memorable meal? There was serving In-N-Out burgers at the party and that was pretty amazing. How many did you have? I had two. Okay, good. I was hungry. But In-N-Out was...

Only little. Yeah. In-N-Out was something that was like a real... Like when I first started going to LA, it was such a special treat because it's such a great burger. And then when you live there, you can no longer treat it like you can't have it all the time because it's but it that is something pretty great. Jesse what was that other burger we heard about that all the rappers eat? Fat burger? Yes yeah oh yeah yeah. Who said about fat burger? Kiefer Sovereign said about it yeah. And they do the impossible burger there now too. Oh the vegan one? They're doing

it and that's really good umami burger has a really good impossible burger jesse what are you going to do about mark's sugar fix what have you got fuck all there's some beaches no we've got some oh no because he's doing passover i'm actually really okay i've got some chocolate i'm really full like this is great all right two bowls of soup like two of those two all right mom why did you just stitch me up just wanted to put it out there orange segment i would have i would have tried a little i hope i don't look ungrateful like you know that i've really okay you look like you've got an appetite yeah and like what where will you eat for your last meal tonight tonight I'm gonna be in the studio so maybe I'll try and see my dad but but my dad and his kids here my brothers and sisters live here have a couple go to restaurants

left familiar you know that yeah because Kylie Minogue always went there. That's super vibey. In Chelsea? Yeah. My dad was a massive Chelsea fan, so that's always on the way to football. Are you? I grew up by kind of default, of course, and I do like Chelsea, but I don't know a lot about football and like i hate

people that like so you don't get up in the morning to watch the match no okay but i'll go see a match here if i'm okay he'll take me unless and if they lose he won't take me back for a year because he's like superstitious he thinks that i ruined it how funny can i just ask what your your uber rating? We ask everyone. Do you take Ubers? You know what, actually? A really odd thing. I was dropping a friend home.

Actually, my ex-wife. And I got out the car. And she kept the car going. And she told me that day that once I got out, the guy was like, He seems really nice. Why is his rating so low? So I think I think what I do is I get a little Impatient like when they start when they see look like they're driving towards you and then they're driving away and then they're doing that thing where they're going like they look like a newborn baby for and like kind of like to do and

So I I cancel sometimes I'm a like reorder. Yeahorder yeah which takes longer it's so stupid but um i'm never rude or disrespectful once i'm in the uber but i think my rating dropped because i've just got quite a lot of cancellations that is so funny he's only jake's wife too that's brilliant i hope she stood up for you i'm not sure was she an ex then or was she a current then uh i think it was we were still together yeah okay um mark bronson thank you so much for doing this i hope we've kind of you know helped you through a busy day and thank you it's great it really was lovely to talk and the food was excellent thank you for having two bowls of chicken soup. Yeah, yeah. That's four bowls. Four matzo balls. Four matzo balls? Yeah.

It's a four matzo ball boy. Like Ed Sheeran was a four sausage kind of boy. Yeah? Yeah. I think matzo balls are more refined. And they were eight inch like sausage. I mean, he's a greedy bastard. But no, I appreciate you having four balls.

Okay. And I think you should be a therapist. Okay. Or like have a This American Life kind of episode. Put people to sleep with the voice. No, your voice is very soothing. Great. It's such a great voice.

And it's made us like take our voices down a few decimals. Yeah, right. So I feel like you've really calmed us down. I feel like you're a mediator. Yeah, he could be therapeutic because we've not even argued this. No, we've just kind of been in like a kind of trance. I think that's one of the good things about a good tool to have as a producer

to make people feel quite calm and at ease around you. I'm like horizontal, I'm ready for a schluff. well mum i feel really relaxed i i feel very relaxed because his voice was so soothing the mark ronson effect yeah he's calming we didn't conflict resolution we didn't even argue darling while he was here because he was so calming. I know. Yeah. I really like you. Yes.

I like you too, darling. He was so much taller than I thought he'd be. I know, but mum, when you said, God, you're taller, and he went, I'm sorry. Mum, it made him probably think that you thought he was a little short arse. I did. I did think he was short, but he was tall. He was kind of really noticeably lovely and tall. I mean, he was short, but he was tall. He was kind of really noticeably lovely and tall. I mean, he was lovely and tall.

Jessie. Sorry, what? Now he's gone, I can eat a pastry. I'm so glad we did kosher Pesach food. He was proper Pesach. Mum, your chicken soup was out of this world today. Good, darling. Four balls Ronson.

Four balls Ronson. Do you want to keep it yes of course i do all right um no that was really calm and i'm gonna have a really relaxed day after that yeah i hope he writes a banger i'm sure he will thanks for listening see See you. Peace out. Bye. Chill. The music you've listened to on Table Manners is by Peter Duffy and Pete Fraser and Table Manners is edited by the wonderful Alice Williams.