Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S8 Ep 11: Emilia Clarke

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

To close this series of Table Manners we decided to get an absolute Christmas cracker in, the Mother of ALLLL mothers, the Mother of Dragons! After hearing this lady was a fan of the podcast I sw...ooped in like a baby dragon and coaxed her with the promise of chicken soup (her request!) and she even broke her gluten free policy to sample mum's matzoh balls. We talk to our dream girl about her dear late dad's passion for food, salad in a bag, boarding school meals and setting up her charity, 'Same You' with her mum after having 2 brain aneurysm in her twenties. What a treat to have the nation's sweetheart over for dins. Thanks so much for listening. We will be back in the new year. Mum and I just need a little 'Time Out' 🤣🤣🤣 xxxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm sitting here with my mum, Lenny. Say hi. Hi. Mum. Yes, darling. This guest actually is a fan of this podcast. You're kidding me. No, thanks to Greg James. Dearest Greg let me know after he had her on his morning breakfast
Starting point is 00:00:21 show at Radio 1 and he said, you know, Emilia Clarke is a massive fan of the podcast. And he said, you know, Emilia Clarke is a massive fan of the podcast. And I said, I don't believe it. Was she a bit jealous that Greg had been on with Bella? I don't know. I don't know. You can ask her that in a minute. So I slid into the DMs. I don't do it that often.
Starting point is 00:00:37 What's DMs? Do you have a direct message? Oh, I thought you meant Doc Martens. No. What would I be doing? I dot martin's anyway i slid into amelia clark's dms and i said listen i hear you're a fan would you like to come on she jumped at the chance i'm sure darling and she actually requested a dish the chicken soup the chicken soup the chicken soup the chicken soup however old Amelia has a few dietary requirements however she's willing to forego her gluten intolerance for a matzo ball
Starting point is 00:01:13 well I'm not surprised so who knows my matzo balls have never killed anyone yet so let's see if we can get most of the interview out of the way before death by Lenny's matzo ball. Now, I'm so excited to have her. Jessie, I don't dare tell I've never watched Game of Thrones ever. Well, I've watched all of it. Which part does she play? She was Daenerys, the mother of dragons. Did she have a blonde wig?
Starting point is 00:01:41 Yeah, and she looked amazing. She's very beautiful. She had like three dragons. Yeah. She's amazing. Why did she have three dragons. Yeah. She's amazing. Why did she have three dragons? Because she's the mother of dragons, Mum. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:50 But she's much more than just the mother of dragons. What is she? She is in a Christmas film this year. I can't wait to see it. I know, me neither. Last Christmas. It's got George Michael music. She just seems like, from what I've seen in interviews, I would love to get to know her.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I think my husband's pretty happy that Daenerys is in the building. I'm all really excited. What have you cooked then? So I've made chicken soup with matzo balls, as requested. In the book? And I had a matzo ball catastrophe. Why? Put too much baking powder in my matzo balls and they all kind of virtually exploded.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It was an oversight, but I rectified it within 10 minutes. Does that mean that there's less matzo balls for they all kind of virtually exploded it was an oversight but i rectified it within 10 minutes does that mean that there's less matzo balls for us to eat now no because i made a whole new batch oh thank god and then we've got monkfish skewers skewered on rosemary branches or rosemary twigs and we've got broccoli with a kind of anchovy dressing emulsion. Like 10% broccoli. 10% broccoli with anchovy. And then we've got your salt and vinegar potatoes. Yeah, sugar, I need to go and check on them. And you last night made a dairy-free chocolate cake.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, so this is a fully gluten-free meal. Except for the vegetables. Apart from the balls, so that's, yeah. And dairy-free meal. It's not gluten-free, darling. The so that's yeah and dairy free meal it's not gluten free darling the chocolate cake's got flour in
Starting point is 00:03:08 oh shit why did we make that cake for her I don't know because if she's going to have a matzo ball she's not celiac
Starting point is 00:03:16 disease darling oh my god mum why did we make this cake I don't know she can't have any country she can have
Starting point is 00:03:22 a few raspberries oh god and ice cream. Mum. It's a really good cake, though, also in the book. Basically, we've made a whole... You're going to find this quite a lot on the podcast. We're going to be making quite a lot from the cookbook.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So, yeah, all of these... Just to excite you. Just to tantalise those taste buds. We are at the end of this series. Series eight. This is our last one before Christmas. This is our Christmas cracker. And she really is.
Starting point is 00:03:47 She bloody well is. We are going to take a short break over Christmas and the year just so we can stop talking to each other for a bit. Yeah. We will be back in the new year, but we would love to hear from you to hear what you're doing for Christmas dinner, whether we can get any tips for next year.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Email us at hello at tablemannerspodcast.com. My daughter is trying to touch the microphone. Can you say happy Christmas to everybody listening to the podcast? Happy Christmas. There you go. Happy Pissmas. Well, I hope everyone has a lovely Christmas. Yeah, thank you so much for listening to us
Starting point is 00:04:20 and we hope that you have a lovely Christmas. And making it such a fabulous podcast. Yeah, we are very lucky that you listen. If you're missing us and you're new listeners, then you can listen to some of our old episodes because we have, what, over 60 now to listen to? So there you go. You're sorted for the Christmas period.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So excited to have this guest, the Christmas cracker that she is, Emilia Clarke, coming up on Table Manners. The stunning Emilia Clarke has just walked through the door with, like, gifts. Huge amount of gifts. I can't wait for you guys to... They're fun. Like, one of the...
Starting point is 00:05:02 They're Christmas-themed. Wow. What? Is it a bauble?ble yeah but it's filled with christmas chocolates so you've got one of them each but like amazing because i figured like babies might be well into being like oh my god no these are these are the i just thought they were so they're like they're like um they're biscuits um kind of like a bourbon um andmy dodgers. But they're not. Are they chocolate? They're all chocolate.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So they're chocolate in the shape of your jammy dodger and your bourbon. It's like you knew my daughter said just before you came, I want chocolate. Amazing. These are amazing. Thanks so much. No worries. I loved it. It was like my most joyous thing.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I was trying to work out. I was like, what am I going to get you guys? It's got the Christmas theme. When do you have time to go shopping? Oh, please. That's very close to me so and they were like you're literally called me a regular today i was like oh no are you a chocolate that's embarrassing i i yeah like it's it's like a need someone once told me that if you crave chocolate like dark chocolate which is what i like genuinely trained myself to like because when I was do you know what I mean you're like yeah white chocolate all day obviously but then yeah yeah milky bar um but then when I started getting into dark chocolate someone told me that when you crave it it's your craving oxygen
Starting point is 00:06:17 oh I heard it was magnesium or something there's like some genuine because you know you get those cravings especially I thought you're like it's a pregnancy. I thought it was when you had your period. Oh, the iron. Iron in it. There's all that good stuff in it. So yeah, I get well into that and kind of try and enjoy it. So you've like brought over chocolates.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You're a chocoholic. Are you sick to death of Christmas yet? So we shot it last year. Last year? Around Christmas. At Christmas. So we shot it all before Christmas then we took two weeks off
Starting point is 00:06:46 to have our own Christmases and then carried on and it was kind of, it worked out sort of well because we were filming it at Christmas and we were filming it in London where it's all Christmassy anyway and you're just like,
Starting point is 00:06:57 amazing, all it did is make all of our own Christmases the most exhausting things you've ever, because we're all like, this isn't the movie. Where are the fairy lights? On crack. What it okay yeah okay gorgeous yes yeah he's cute oh like a don is he in crazy yeah crazy rick shayans good for sir yes genuinely yeah he's so
Starting point is 00:07:19 good looking yeah no because there are some where you're like oh god uh but no he was just brilliant did you get do you get lost in the moment for a second yeah especially when it's a really romantic scene but the thing about me and hen was that like i don't i don't know there was we were so we were so like friends and professional that it like there was nothing like and i mean this with such sincerity there was nothing it was just like a lovely kiss like there wasn't do you know what i mean you're like it was it was like a movie like okay fine yeah and it wasn't meant to be so i think all of that kind of played into it oh my god i need to see the fucking film now i think you'll i think you'll really like it a rom-com is my favorite type of film, especially a Christmas rom-com.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Well, and it's a very, very, very British rom-com in that it's, like, more than a rom-com. And it's got George Michael music. And it's got George Michael music all over the shop. And then there's his unreleased one that he made right before he died, and it's rolling on the credits. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:22 So it's kind of amazing. Paul, in all the screenings, was like, stay for the credits! And so it's kind of amazing that paul and all the screenings was like stay for the credits and i'm like stop telling everyone what to do like if they want to stay they can just like i was i heard you on craig david on greg james sorry greg james's um breakfast show like you were doing a couple of stints on it weren't you or not maybe you were just doing one but he told me that you like the podcast that's the reason yes that's the reason you're here so thanks greg thanks but but yeah you were doing like true i don't know what this game is that he does but you were like honestly you hate the pokes song fairy tale of christmas it's really bad yeah new york is it yeah it's
Starting point is 00:08:59 just one of those songs that just makes me sad every time of all the christmas songs you've got so many amazing options and then there's and then with that one i just i just you're like come on we can like sing a proper but i feel like maybe you should go to one of the pogue's brixton academy um christmas shows just to really solidify whether you love it or hate it very good that is so drunk and so irish and kind of kind of brilliant but like like i love and i like we shot in belfast for 10 years i love an irish sing song in the pub get it down your neck all that so i love it i absolutely love it but there's just so i don't know so you lived in belfast when you're doing game of thrones yeah i mean we were there for like for however long we had to be there and on the last couple of seasons we were there for basically like 10 months did you understand the accent oh how about you how yeah my dad was from there oh nice yeah and i thought it's well trendy everyone said
Starting point is 00:09:55 modern and patron yeah and film do they still say film film yeah yeah but people don't do that yes so i've got like a lot of um connections to you which i feel like i need to spell out okay um does the name this will be slightly embarrassing if it doesn't does the captain do you know the captain the captain okay dave morgan right yes yes yes so the captain is my brother will be like yes the captain well your brother worked on yes he's in the camera department yeah was he on the last series he was on the last series and we lived together when we were filming to get on well we do we do i mean we we hadn't lived together for a very long time because we both went to boarding school like in that amount of time when by the time we started
Starting point is 00:10:41 living together in belfast and so there were a few like ben seriously i need you to like screw that jar back on that jam and i need you to pop it in the cupboard like do it for and then and then like he had to wash up only his stuff and not oh wow but it was the most magic thing in the world coming back home and having ben there like every once in a while i'd be in the bath and the door would be closed and we'd just be having he'd get in after a night out or whatever and then we'd be having a chat
Starting point is 00:11:07 and be like, how was your day? It was just lovely. We'd get on really well. Is he older or younger? He's older. He's like, I think they would,
Starting point is 00:11:14 you'd call us Irish twins, isn't that what they, so he's like a year and a half. Yeah, or not quite within a year. Two under two. Yeah, two under two.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, exactly. So that's Ben and I, so we're really, we're really close. So, growing up. Yes. It was you and Ben. Yeah, exactly. So that's Ben and I. So we were really close. So growing up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It was you and Ben. Me and Ben. And then your parents. And like, who was cooking? My dad. And your dad's passed away. My dad's passed away, yeah. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So food is like, when I think about my childhood and I think about my family, it's just food. Really? It's just like, that was how my dad expressed love. Obviously, he loved us. Yeah, of course. He expressed that in every other way. But my mum does three things and she does them very well. Come on.
Starting point is 00:11:53 She hasn't done the chocolate mousse in a very long time, but she makes a mean chocolate mousse because she just would inhale, like, if you gave her a slab of dairy milk the size of the table, it'd be probably gone in about four bites. Like she's a chocoholic. And then she would do lamb chops and salad in a bag. She sounds like mum's kind of woman.
Starting point is 00:12:12 She just, lamb chops. And salad in a bag, love it. My mum loves a good lamb chop. So she would do that and we would do that and salad in a bag. And then to the point where it was so infamous that like my dad was the only one who did the cooking in the village that we now live in where we're all really, really close.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Do you all live in the same village? No, no, no, no. As in our village where we live is like a proper community. And when I was in hospital, our neighbors,
Starting point is 00:12:37 our amazing neighbors came to the hospital with lamb chops and salad in a bag. Oh, do you know what I mean because it was just like our yeah our families kind of but my dad would cook as kids you know the smell of like dough he would make us homemade pizzas with like wholemeal dough and then he'd make us chicken curries and he'd make us but all of it now i know was like with a superior palette you know i mean like none of it was bland so when i was a kid i didn't know how to say
Starting point is 00:13:10 spicy so he used to call it minty so my dad would be like it's a bit minty but so it would be me with a with a vat of yogurt with pretty much anything he'd cook yeah because he loved chili my brother loved chili yeah so we um spag Spag Bowls always had like kidneys in and like, you know what I mean? Like he really went there. Some people put chicken livers in, don't they? Chicken livers. I don't mean kidney. I mean chicken livers.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Chicken livers in. Which I'd always try and navigate around. Yeah. Yeah. Which I just. Oh, wow. Like proper food. Proper food foodie.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But then he'd also make a club sandwich that was like the greatest thing you'd ever eaten. Like he just would make the most simple food superior. What did he put in his club? Was it everything that's in a club sandwich? Everything. But like he'd get like the best bread and then it'd be toasted to perfection. And then he'd have the best mayonnaise. And then he'd have like your iceberg lettuce and your smoky thick cut bacon.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And then he'd marinate that chicken in like white wine and garlic. No, he wouldn't. And like grill it like that and flat iron it himself. Like pound it out. He's there butchering in the kitchen all the time. Pound it out and then have the next layer of bread. And then there'd be your fresh tomatoes. Like it's just all of the stuff's just regular.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But he just like pimped it basically. All of the food that we would eat what what did he do as a job he was a sound designer for the theatre but he started life as a well he started life as an art student and then as a roadie in a band and like was just tried every drug under the planet and like was a massive hippie and then found his way into sound and then was a resident at the national for ages for like 14 years did musicals toured around the world like yeah did your mum work yeah yeah my mum's my mum is i'm gonna put it really basically because i still don't quite get it um a business woman and always has been so she was my dad was this like freewheeling free loving creative hippie and my mum was so if you imagine like when they met and then my mum was like the 70s glamazon with her red revlon nails and her red lips and her like perm so where was he getting
Starting point is 00:15:11 all his influences from or so he literally food is such a big part like you could try i could tell you all my parents stories from like when they first tried garlic when they first like what their best meal was that kind of thing of nostalgia then yeah like my dad was always into food as a kid he was from Wolverhampton Wolverhampton and um and his mum was like you know she cooked but it was never full of like massive amounts of flavor but he got lovely food and then for his I can't remember what birthday it must have been but he was young I think he was like under 10 they're like what you want to do for your birthday and he was like I want to go to this restaurant they're like right then we'll go to this restaurant and that's where he tried really i think that's the first time he
Starting point is 00:15:51 went he tried garlic and then they were well off enough to go to to go on holidays and so he went to spain or to france and that was when he tried different spices different flavors and just blew his mind. And from then on, no matter how poor he was, no matter how little money he had, because he went through most of his life with like not two pennies to put together, he would get his tin of sardines and his thing of rice
Starting point is 00:16:15 and do whatever he could to like make it into like... Oh, I love him. Yeah. He sounds amazing. And he'd try food from all over the world. He passed away? Yeah, three years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry. But I'd be food from all over the world. He passed away? Yeah, three years ago. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:27 But I'd be speaking about him and his food love with just the same amount of vigour as I would if he was still here. Are you a good cook? I can be a good cook. Like, if you give me an Ottolenghi cookbook, I'll go mad. Like, me and my brother did all the Christmas cooking last Christmas. Okay, what was on the menu? So we did a turkey, which hilariously was the only thing that didn't work. I'll go mad. Yeah. Like me and my brother did all the Christmas cooking. Last Christmas. What was, okay,
Starting point is 00:16:45 what was on the menu? So we did a turkey, which hilariously was the only thing that didn't work. And then we did, we had like 24 people round and we did, I think we did like 15 different sides. Oh wow. Okay. So we just essentially got Ottolenghi and Jelena's cookbook.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Oh yeah. Love Jelena. Did you do a roasted sprout? sprout yes we did a roasted sprout we did that kale and we did i can't remember what else we did but we did loads and loads and people just basically ignored the turkey what happened to that what what oh it was half cooked with the oven it was a new oven and we just didn't quite and we sort of weren't paying attention to it but it was this whopping great big turkey and then like and because also my brother's a vegetarian so we sort of needed to
Starting point is 00:17:25 maybe that's why he didn't oh yeah sabotage yeah exactly sabotage the turkey what are you doing this christmas i'm taking mom to india my mom my brother to india for two weeks yeah because it's my mom's 70th in january fantastic so she didn't want to party so i was like oh i'm gonna surprise her with that that's amazing yeah and you are part yeah yeah yeah so my granny was half Indian and so we've as a family I went when I was 16 and scattered her ashes after she died in like back prance around northern India and did that my mum my dad had been to India my mum used to work in India my brother's never been but we've never been as a family so I wanted to plan this like pilgrimage sort of thing and then we've got really really good friends who are there.
Starting point is 00:18:06 So on actual Christmas day, I think we're spending it with like 40 people, like in an Indian house. Amazing. And I'm just so excited. It's going to be really good. Cheers. Happy Christmas. Happy Christmas. Happy Christmas.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Happy Christmas. What a pleasure to meet you. Honestly, I mean, I've been watching you on screen for how many years? How many years was it? Seven, eight? Well, so it was eight seasons, but ten years. I mean, it's been a while. God, that champagne.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I love champagne. Me too. Me too. That is good. Makes me happy. That's exactly it. I could be in any pub anywhere and be like don't care what kind it is babe
Starting point is 00:18:45 just bring it over it gives you bad breath though does it I feel like it does I don't think so I always feel maybe it's Prosecco
Starting point is 00:18:53 that gives bad breath I don't know but I always feel like champagne breath is not the one oh I think it's alright maybe like the better it is the less
Starting point is 00:19:02 bad breath you get less halitosis new advertising for fancy champagne is, the less bad breath you get. Less halitosis, yeah. New advertising for fancy champagne. It doesn't give you bad breath. I think this tastes lovely. So on your request, you asked for chicken soup. I did.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Because I hear about it so much. And I love chicken soup. And that is the one my dad would make chicken stock all the time, which now we call bone broth. Yeah. But like back before, it was just chicken stock. You don't have to have the matzo ball if you don't want it but you can have the thing that will do you know i mean i've never actually you gotta have a matzo ball oh yeah is it gonna is it gonna make you have to go to the loo if you have the matzo ball not today
Starting point is 00:19:40 fine perfect are you are you actually gluten intolerant it's one of those things right gluten this is the fine print they don't tell you when you go through all of your varying things of like oh this is good for you i'm gonna do exactly what the paper tells me to do and i'm not gonna do it um you become less you become when you when you take out gluten for a significant amount of time popping it back in pain the dairy thing is real yeah but for real if you because i don't i'm sure that's why you shouldn't take out gluten but yeah no i mean my mom is very when i've i've attempted it and actually felt much better for it and yeah no you do and you absolutely do so maybe it's just that before i took out the gluten i wasn't aware of the fact that i was bloated all the time
Starting point is 00:20:19 how much gluten did you eat not that much as much Her dad's pizza. As much as the next person. Yeah. My dad's pizza. But what do you do about bread now? Because I love bread so much. Maybe you're not fussed about it. She has gluten free. Gluten free bread is shit. Yes, it's bad. If I'm going to eat bread, I'm going to eat bread.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Go out with a bang. Hells yeah. If I'm going to do it, there is no point in like, I found there was one gluten free bread that I found in America that basically just tasted like sugar and I loved it because it was squidgy and it tasted like banana bread.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Jessie. Yeah. She's a super foodie. I'm a super foodie. I really am. I'm kind of a bit anxious now. I really care really deeply. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:58 No, no, no, no, no. Mum, your chicken soup, don't worry. I haven't had a home-cooked meal and I cannot tell you how long. Really? So for real. Yeah, I've not been able to go home because my mum, since my dad died,
Starting point is 00:21:07 has like made it her mission, God love her, to be good at cooking. So she's always like, no, no, no, no, no. I've got to cook for you, got to cook for you. And she gets really like, I must be really good at cooking. And it's genuinely got so much better. But I just don't cook for myself.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And I don't know whether it's like, I'm grieving my dad or whatever it is. No, I mean, I don't eat really, I eat red meat red meat really really really rarely because I'm trying to do my bit but that's so sad that now it feels slightly bittersweet for you to cook yeah there's something in it but like if I'm cooking for other people let me at it like I love it I absolutely love it and I get I turn into my dad in the kitchen which is just like a little bit testy I'm just a little bit I get a little bit stressed but I love the preparation of it and all of it so you've always eaten really well throughout your life yeah my dad really screwed us in that sense because I never craved if my mum listens to this she'd be like yes you did we never had um rubbish food yeah we
Starting point is 00:22:01 didn't like when I was a kid kid we'd have like a packet crisps after swimming or whatever and we used to have those um oh my god the golden syrup bars and the Jamaican ginger oh yeah like after do you know I mean like after swimming and all that but um but overall we would always I was I was 24 before I realized that people didn't always sit down to eat a meal together like I literally it was just so much like breathing. What did you eat at boarding school? Oh God, boarding school food. Was it terrible?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, but kind of good, terrible. Oh right, alright, okay. You know what I'm saying, like so good. Was it like kind of custard and biscuits? Oh, just custard please. Oh right, okay. And did they do the chocolate custard? They did the chocolate custard.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I love the chocolate. It was the best thing in the world. Yeah. Just custard. No, yeah, you'd just get like school dinners. But like there were, to my palate now, and did they do the chocolate custard they did the chocolate custard it was the best thing in the world just custard no yeah you just get like school dinners but like there were to my palate now there's something so comforting
Starting point is 00:22:51 about like salty bland thin cut beef with like a bit of slightly lumpy gravy with your boiled potatoes and your boiled carrots there's something about it where you're like do you know what that's just
Starting point is 00:23:02 do you like plain food then I genuinely don't eat plain food. Oh. At all. Do you bring your own packed lunch? Yeah, yeah. Because you can't trust it.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Mainly because in recent years, if I'm on a plane, for the amount of time that you'd need to eat a meal on it, I'm, someone taught me once that if you want to
Starting point is 00:23:20 conquer jet lag, don't eat on the flight, which is sometimes obviously really hard. So like, you'd have some nuts or you'd have the like you whatever and i'm gonna sound like i got a fucking eating disorder which i don't but it's if you try to not eat a big meal at least yeah on the plane your jet lag is helped when you land because your stomach that's where we're going
Starting point is 00:23:37 wrong we're having the wine i have everything but then that's but when i'm on the plane i'm going to work yeah no tell me about it every time I sit down I'm like yes I will start with the champagne and then I'm just on water thank you very much yeah I guess you need
Starting point is 00:23:49 to be like on it as soon as you as soon as I land sometimes I go straight into a thing and if I'm there with like a with like a big bloated
Starting point is 00:23:55 full belly and like feeling a little bit wore I mean do you get recognised wherever you go yeah is it boring it's just
Starting point is 00:24:02 sometimes it can be frustrating for the people that you're with. And you're like, let's say like this happens to me so many times. If I'm walking with like a girlfriend, let's say we're having a proper gossip. We're having a catch up. We're like having like a heart to heart of some kind. We're getting into it. And then someone comes up and is like, he's going to have a photo. And you're sort of in the middle of like someone's crying or we're getting into it. And then you're like, oh, i shouldn't be saying things so loud and
Starting point is 00:24:29 then the friend that you're with feels really awkward and then it turns into a weird thing and then you're like sorry to you and sorry to you but i don't quite know how to navigate what this is so recently since and i think it is actually probably since after my dad died um because I went through three years of genuinely having seven days off like in three solid years because I was doing I did Game of Thrones season seven which lasted like 11 months when I had about seven days and went into Star Wars which then extended so we were only meant to shoot six months and then it turned into a year. Has Star Wars come out yet? That was been and gone. Oh.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next ones, I did Star Wars, the Han Solo story. Okay, I haven't seen it. It's very awkward. But Donald Glover was there. But yes, yeah. He was the most handsome, charming man.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And we got him right before, yeah. Before what? Before the like mega, mega, mega rise of donald but um but yeah so in that time i was like just so i can't begin to describe how tired i was because then went into that and then went into star wars and then went straight into game of thrones and we did that for a year and then we finished and then like i was just knackered and that was at a time when people were stopping me quite a lot so i was genuinely walking through an airport like and i just suddenly started having what i can only believe to be a panic attack brought on by like complete exhaustion and was just on your own to my yes on my own
Starting point is 00:25:54 and it's on the phone to my mom because i called her and i was like i feel like i can't breathe i feel like i don't know what's going on she was like take a sit down you're all good you're all good and then i'm there and then the tears are coming out and i'm crying and i'm crying and i'm crying down to try and not be like i'm sitting on this seat in the gate and this guy is like can i get a selfie can i get a selfie and i was like i can't breathe i'm really sorry just having a minute can i just and then like so it was after a few moments like that where you're just like i don't i don't know how to do this so i I started to say, I'm not going to take a photo, but I will sign something. Because then as soon as you sign something, you have to have an interaction with that person.
Starting point is 00:26:31 As opposed to someone just going, or he gives a selfie and then goodbye, it turns into, right, what's your name? Who are we making it out to? And then you have a little chat and then you're actually having like a truthful human to human thing, as opposed to it
Starting point is 00:26:45 being this other thing which probably isn't nice for them and it probably isn't nice for you but I wonder because like you've got such a reputation of being like a lovely person too but it's true like you're like the hot one but also the loveliest person and so but that thing of people feeling like they can approach you because you are you you appear approachable and therefore you being able to just be like guys you know what i'm i'm not having a great day do you mind i feel that shit there's just a few moments because when you're in like a big public space you're kind of you've got to get from a to b and normally you're kind of in a bit of a and when you're i mean i don't know if this is bad to say, but when you're like a little girl and you sort of get physically grabbed, your gut instinct
Starting point is 00:27:30 is like danger. Yeah, of course. And then it's just someone going, can I have a selfie? It's intrusive though, isn't it? But then because I like people and I like interacting with human beings, and that's the thing I miss the most about anonymity is like, I just like going into shops and like having a chat. Like I just like chatting. Me too like having a chat like I just like chatting
Starting point is 00:27:45 me too obviously and so when that goes it you feel a bit so then when someone's asking me for a selfie I want to be able to provide for them what it is that they're after and I feel like I signed up for it like I knew what was going on so I've just been trying to navigate how I can do it without feeling like my soul is completely empty because they don't really want to talk to you and that sounds really sad but you're a bit like seen with you yeah and then you're like I'm a nice to meet you I'm my name is Amelia loved yet great so when you do like a signing thing then you get to actually look into their eyes and have like a do you not have like a proper human thing because it's a really
Starting point is 00:28:26 weird thing but when did it start getting really weird it started to get to like fever pitch around season seven when i was going through this thing of being so tired all the time i got woken up on a plane do you know i mean i was like i was fast asleep against the window had like drool i knew how drool because you know when you wake up and you're like... And I was being woken up by someone shaking me awake and was like, can I get a selfie? And I was like, babe, I'm really sorry, but I've only got like an hour to sleep and I kind of need it. Like, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Fuck off. You can't say fuck off, but fuck off. That's rude. I think you should say. Why did they not protect you? You weren't in economy, Amelia. Good God. That particular one. No no it was an easy jet
Starting point is 00:29:07 I think no that was I can't remember because when you're flying to Belfast and you just want to get home yeah because I would do on the last we would wrap on like hopefully we would wrap at like seven on a Friday night yeah and I would exactly and I would literally there was an ad on the show it was like i've never seen anyone rap quicker than you look up because i'm like what the hair and makeup girls want to go home they don't want to wait around for me so i don't want to go home so you mean home london home london yeah so i would whip that wig off as quickly as we could do it so that everyone could go for a drink i mean sometimes i'm literally like ripping skin off as i'm
Starting point is 00:29:42 trying to get in the car to get on the plane and then I would land in London at like 11 on a Friday night and then I'd go out with my mates to the pub and stay up and like see them and then have Saturday and then Sunday morning I'd get back on a plane and go to Belfast oh Jesus Christ so those kind of flights where you're I was just trying so hard to like still have a life of some kind when you're shooting those kind of things but which is where living with your brother is kind of amazing yeah and i but i guess yeah it's that juggling act and then you just kind of feel like you're not really doing anything yeah exactly exactly apologetic to your friends maybe like a partner it's like no that's it and then your hours sometimes we'd be doing like from like
Starting point is 00:30:25 waking up from yeah from getting in the car to getting back home to the flat you sometimes would have done like a 14 hour day and when you're doing
Starting point is 00:30:34 six day weeks and we'd do and you're I'm complaining about a very cushy job no no no no I understand it mum it's a 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Oh, my God, that is... You don't think it needs some salt? No. Listeners, you need to... I've heard this being eaten before because I'm obsessively listening to your podcast and always going, what does it taste like?
Starting point is 00:30:57 What does it taste like? It tastes like heaven. That is... You've got to try the matzo balls. That is absolutely amazing. And at this time of year. I absolutely will with a bit of my... Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:09 They are good. All day. All day long. You need to now get the just a matzo ball. This is genuinely food for your soul. This is like... Oh my God. You'd be ill just to eat this all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I know. That's amazing. Can we talk about... Yes. ill just to eat this all the time i know can we talk about can we talk about yes your double brain hemorrhage stroke aneurysm post first season of game of thrones i can't even imagine you were how old i was 22 uh no no no no just 23 oh god what was i i keep you were bloody young i was 22 23 which one i I genuinely keep forgetting. Someone will be like,
Starting point is 00:31:46 quick maths, Amelia. Well done. Yeah, so I was young, but I was so great. Like literally I'd seen one television camera before doing Game of Thrones. So like the buildup to the first Brain Hemorrhage was massive
Starting point is 00:32:04 because it was, the first season to the first brain hemorrhage was massive because it was the first season of the show was genuinely one of the most happiest seasons i've ever we've ever done because it was everyone just being like i don't know i'll try it did you think it was gonna be a big thing this is the thing that i mean with such sincerity i i was just so over the moon to have a job like everyone keeps me like but you you were doing HBO and you know, and now I'm like, Oh yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I absolutely get why someone would be like, Oh, did you, did you feel weird about signing up for that many seasons? Or like, did you kind of, were you aware of what it was going to be? But I,
Starting point is 00:32:36 I cannot stress enough how little I knew about anything. So I was just over the moon to be a part of something. And I think maybe some of the back of my brain was like oh this is like a very big thing but I've never ever ever wanted to again this is instilled from family stuff but like I've never wanted to be reliant on success or on my job from being the thing that makes me feel value do you know what I mean so? So I would, I would always err on the side of caution. I would always be like, yeah, but we don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And we don't know. And we don't, and I could get fired at any point. Glass is slightly half empty. Yeah. Kind of like, yeah, my glass is always over spilling for people,
Starting point is 00:33:17 but for my own stuff and my own work, I'm always like, well, let's just assume it's going to be crap. That's a way of protecting yourself. 100%. Yeah. 100 million percent. I do.'t it 100% I'll get it
Starting point is 00:33:27 so you wrapped Game of Thrones or had it come out by this point no we'd wrapped it so you having a bit of time off first kind of proper acting job and you're like and then what happened
Starting point is 00:33:42 so we wrapped that at Christmas yeah then I went to so we wrapped that at Christmas and then I went to America and did a bit of press for the show where I could they Amelia Clarkie
Starting point is 00:33:52 what do you have the same as Amelia Clarkie me and Sean Bean on a panel very funny and then and then I got American Agents
Starting point is 00:33:59 and then like just doing all of that kind of stuff and then came back to my flat in Dalston, head spinning, not really knowing what I'm meant to be doing,
Starting point is 00:34:08 but like reading exciting scripts from America and feeling like, oh my God, this is, this is really exciting. This is really huge. I have a career. Um, and then was in the gym one morning and like dragged myself there like fully.
Starting point is 00:34:21 It was so tired, but was on a television show and was being an actress and was like i'm now meant to work out right okay so i'm gonna do what everyone is insistent idea telling me to do and i'm gonna get on a treadmill um and i was with i'd got this personal trainer from the gym so he was working me out and i was doing the plank and no before then i remember i was doing what was on like the cross train or whatever and just went, oh my God, I'm so tired. No, push through it, push through it, push through it. And then I'd do another thing and be like,
Starting point is 00:34:48 oh my God, I'm so tired. I'd be like, no, no, no, push through, push through, you can do it. And then doing the plank and I suddenly went, oh my God, I've got the most excruciating head. I don't know what's going on. You were basically having a hemorrhage then. It's literally, I remember it really,
Starting point is 00:35:05 obviously really vividly. It's like an elastic band just went like snap around your brain. Like that's the only way I can describe it. So you couldn't actually feel that sensation? Oh my God, yeah. And it was just like, boom, in a second,
Starting point is 00:35:19 suddenly, imagine your whole brain is just being shrink-wrapped and squeezed. And then I started to feel incredibly ill and I crawled to the loo. It was being really, I'm not going to do this while we're out here, but not well. This is all at the gym? This is all at the gym, in the loo, in the gym.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And then this woman whose face I've never, all I knew was her voice, put me in the recovery position and got the ambulance to come. And they didn't know what it was, and they were like, this is really weird because you're young, you're young and like you're just tired. And I kept trying to. Yeah. But I was when I was being ill, I knew I was being brain damaged. I was in that toilet stall just being like, I absolutely know this is brain damage and it's not happening. Like it's 100 percent not happening. This is not the way my life is going to go. 100% not happening. This is not the way my life is going to go.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I'm going to be an actress. This is, like, and it was just, like, as strong as the pain was this, like, fight that was just, like, not happening. Wiggling my fingers and toes, I was like, okay, what's brain damage? Brain damage is you're going to be paralysed. Okay, so you're probably slipping into a coma, so you probably shouldn't go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So, like, move your fingers and toes, move your fingers and toes, move your legs. Where's your mum from? What's your dad's name? What are the lines from the show? Like like what's your full name like trying to keep myself awake literally and like moving no i was kind of okay um and um they didn't know what it was so they couldn't give me any drugs and so because so i was just there and like so what did they give you an mri scan it took them a really long time. Because you couldn't speak.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, and it was the weirdest thing. So I've never said this before, but it was the strangest thing. I remember really vividly being in, they'd put me in a room in A&E, like just off the main bit. And it was a rowdy Saturday night. And I'm drifting in and out of consciousness and still haven't had any pain medication. And I got my mum, my dad and my brother all in the room with me. And I just can in and out of consciousness and like still haven't had any pain medication. And I got my mum, my dad and my brother all in the room with me.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And I just can't move my head. I can't do anything. And I hear what is obviously someone just, I'm quite jumpy anyway. But I heard what was someone obviously throwing a chair or like it started to get rowdy. Some idiot. Because it's a Saturday night and you've got a lot of like, there's a lot of stuff going on. And I thought it was a gunshot. And apparently I bolted upright and was like, lock the door and then just passed out again.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Because there was like some weird bit of my brain that was like aware of danger and was like, family must be safe. And just went. Anyway, that was all very dramatic. Then the nurse saw that the nurse whose husband was a brain surgeon was like i think you need a brain scan i think that's what you need and then after that they realized what it was and like i got into the most amazing hospital yeah literally yeah i mean it was blood i mean so it took a while for them to work it out well i think probably because she was so young they just didn't imagine no one assumed no one assumed that that's what it would be.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And they kept, you know, to be honest, they're a bit like, are you taking any drugs? Yeah. Like, what are you doing? They always think it's drugs with strokes, don't they? Yeah, exactly. In young people. In young people, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And I was just so lucky at like every turn. I was just crazy, crazy lucky. How do you have the double hemorrhage by that point? No, so that was just one. And then they said... And then double hemorrhage by that point no so that was just one and then they said another one well yeah so that was it so then they were they we did the operation but there was what is the operation that they would do so with this one they did um a non-invasive one so they go through your femur artery and they go all the way around your heart and into your brain and they plug it with little wires and so because if you imagine that when your
Starting point is 00:38:47 brain is being formed i was born with a weakness which you can never detect and as your brain goes into the two sides that weakness is reflected on but mirrored on both sides so this is basically like a little bit of your vein is just a bit weak as well as the blood pumps around it just turns into a bubble so is that a manual that's an anysm. So you can see that on a scan. Yeah, and then if you get enough blood pressure going round, so like I've never done thank God I've never done cocaine because that would have killed me on the spot
Starting point is 00:39:13 because the amount of blood pressure that goes round when you're doing that. And so with that bleed, like as it's open, it's just free blood going around and it will just kill whatever bit of the brain. You were kind of lucky to be alive. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Had you been in the wrong place. Completely. At the wrong time. Completely. On a beach in Thailand. And my brain was smart. What it did was, so when you've got, when there's a bit of your brain that doesn't get any blood to it, it dies. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:39:43 But what my brain did then was find another way around and then it just kept running i'm still getting a lot of free blood in the body which like your body is not used to and doesn't really like but so what they did is they filled that free blood like loose like just blood not in a vein so just in your brain or bleeding internal bleeding yeah in your brain no no no no as in that's what happens that's what was happening okay fine and then um and so then that little bit they fill with with wires so that the blood can continue going around on its normal course it doesn't just keep escaping so that was the first procedure um and then they were like you've got another one on the side it's too small to operate on just keep an eye on it and then two years later i'm doing a play on broadway and um i'm on the last day of
Starting point is 00:40:28 my sag medical so i went because i was getting bi-annual scans at that point or like every six months or something um medical is medical you have medical insurance it's just insurance yeah yeah so i went in and they um uh they were like you need to operate on this now it's actually doubled in size since your last scan so i was like i don't really want to but okay um yeah yeah well i just finished the play so i was like what am i going to do next and was just beginning to feel a little bit stronger from the first one um and they were like we'll just do the same procedure so to prevent it from ever, we'll put the wires in so that it like strengthens that little vulnerable bubble that could burst.
Starting point is 00:41:09 It sounds like a really petrifying operation. Yeah. So then I was like, okay, fine, but I'll be around in two hours. And they made it all cushy and it was all cool. And then when I come round, they've brought me round because the wires got stuck and it was a bigger bleed than the last time. And they were like the only way that we're gonna save you is if we cut your head open and do it the old-fashioned
Starting point is 00:41:29 way which is clamping it so that's when they cut your head open i'm so sorry listeners um cut your head open and um take out a bit of your skull and then they go in and then that little balloon they just get a clamp and just clamp it at there so that's sturdy as anything like the coppers you've still got the balloon in there so it's clamped well known because it ruptured and then oh then they okay and then they probably all gone now somewhere in my brain um but then they clamp it but then what you're recovering from is you're recovering from open brain surgery as well as the bleed and then I'd like died for a minute and they were they told my parents I was not going to make it and then they told my parents I was going to be
Starting point is 00:42:08 permanently paralyzed and then this is all happening in like an eight nine ten hour operation you were supposed to just go in for a procedure yeah and it because it sometimes goes wrong sometimes and this was obviously just a bit too what was the repercussions once you woke up once I woke up it was it was just like both times, waking up after that kind of surgery both times, in the beginning you really can't move. So my peripheral, my vision was just like what I could see here and you can only, it's this mad thing.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I've got such a sense memory of both times coming around and being like you're aware of the noises first but you've never been in the room before and you have no idea what's happened. You have idea what's going on you're trying to piece everything together and work it all out and then um the main thing that happens when you've had that kind of surgery is the first week and a half you're just sick to your stomach and all you want is water but then you throw it up immediately so it's this like this parched thirst thing that you, and it's because you've had all of the tubes down your throat and all that stuff. So the second one, it took me a really long time to kind of get myself together.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Whereas with the first one, because it wasn't such an invasive thing. I think it was, I was aware of how much pain I was in and I was aware of all of that kind of stuff. But that happened quicker than with the second one where I kind of just felt like out of it the entire time. Was it very, I mean, did people talk about it at the time? Because I've only heard about this recently. Well, no, so I kept it silent until eight months ago.
Starting point is 00:43:40 So how did it impact on, did you have to delay going back to game of thrones because no so that was things i didn't with the first one i couldn't let them know what happened until then until they knew i wasn't going to die so it took them three weeks took us three weeks to be like sorry for not answering the old emails i've just been a bit um i'm fine by the way everything's great i'm totally fine i'm gonna be back to work nothing's wrong with me it's all good because i just was and consistently so scared of being fired for whatever reason so it's just like no I know but that was just that I mean that was me more than I had no idea how well taken care of
Starting point is 00:44:15 I was so you set up the charity recently well it's you launched it this year we launched it yeah we launched it eight months ago and from the first one I was like I have to I've I've like my life has been saved I've got to give back I have to give back and was just going to get like a sofa for the family room because the family room like my parents would never complain but like they looked in pain all the time um and then I was like I know what can I do for the nurses how can I get back that way and we were trying to figure it out and every time I'd think about it I was like no we can't just get you know obviously we sent them nice things but like I wanted to actually do something significant and then when the second one happened I was just like I'm meant to be here and so I need to like
Starting point is 00:44:58 do something with this like this is ridiculous that I'm still alive and here and I'm here because of all these amazing people so then we started brainstorming as to what it could be and then I wasn't going to tell my story because I would go in and out of like I'll be doing press and then I'd suddenly go Amelia imagine you're telling your story right now and it freaked me out and I just felt not ready because I kept it secret from everyone for so long and I was so scared and I was so ashamed and I said all of those things and then um because it was my mum who's kind of created this with me oh great amazing business woman amazing having your mum she also they always said it was genetic and then January after my dad died so it was 2017 she woke up with vertigo and um they thought she was having a stroke so they
Starting point is 00:45:44 took her to the hospital and then they did a brain scan and saw that she had an aneurysm and it hadn't ruptured so she had to have the preventative procedure that went amazingly and all good um and then we just slowly but surely worked out what what it is that we wanted to do and then we tried to figure out how we could do it without telling my story and then I was like well no one would care so I have to do it and we've got to do it and then as soon as I did it was like oh wow that's actually a real weight off because I'm I'd get interviewed all the time they'd be like what's happened to you in your life and I'm like nothing nothing I've just been doing this tv show like that's it there's nothing I can speak to um and so then getting to say it was kind of liberating and frightening
Starting point is 00:46:22 how did you choose to say it like so I did a piece in the New Yorker because I didn't want a big song and dance. I basically was just like, people are going to be like, oh, celebrity sob story, like we care. But then they ended up with pictures of you in hospital in the mail online. I know. Well, that was something that I, I put that picture of myself up because I was like, this picture is going to like just address the problem even more and they see me standing there looking all capable done having done all the stuff that i've done but then more people read about it yeah no exactly so like that's fine you want to read about the the thing that happened to me and therefore reading about the charity and how they can help then that'd be really good so how does the charity help is it it just... So the charity itself is a grant-giving charity.
Starting point is 00:47:05 What's it called, first of all? Same You. Same You. SameYou.org. There you go. Good, yeah, good. So we are essentially a grant-giving body. So people will come and say,
Starting point is 00:47:16 we need money to do this. And we will, the board and everyone will get together and decide, yes, that's something. And then we will oversee that project and make sure that it's all doing well. Who do you think was most significant in your recovery my recovery i mean besides your parents yeah i was yeah um significant in my recovery this is gonna sound real naff get ready for it ladies and gentlemen genuinely the most significant person in my recovery was mother of
Starting point is 00:47:43 dragons she was the actual thing that got me out of bed every day. Yeah. So the show, like you've got to be on, imagine if it happened to you and you've got to be on stage, guess what? You're probably getting on stage. You've got like,
Starting point is 00:47:54 it's, do you know what I mean? It's your, it's your, it's your identity. It's the thing that you get to not sit there and go, Oh my God, I feel really awful.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And you go, yeah, complete escapism. Exactly. So it turned into that. that you get to not sit there and go oh my god I feel really awful and you go yeah complete escapism exactly so it turned into that I think genuinely that the show was absolutely the thing that just like saved me because it distracted me it got me back to work yes I was exhausted yes I still had this crazy amount of fatigue and like mad anxiety I thought I was going to die all the time and couldn't tell anyone I was feeling a bit kind of so then then because I wasn't saying to anyone it became this thing of like well then she's my character is the thing that's gonna so then every job that I did I would kind of just
Starting point is 00:48:33 funnel it all into there and not really look at it at all and just kind of was aware that I was going to do a charity later on and was going to try and help me bring it back and do you think maybe that's why you work so hard as well is it like yeah is it a way of kind of dealing and coping with this fact that you've had these pretty yeah I mean I've happened I've always because my dad was in the crew the thing that he like instilled in me was professionalism and like you turn up on time and you're not a dick and you know your lines and you are nice to everyone. Make your marks. Do your marks.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Do your marks. Exactly. Like it's just really simple. And that's like just be a professional. Like it all turns to be professional because then you can't go wrong. Like no matter how well you've done in that scene or whatever, like you can just be nice. Just be like a good person. And so regardless of the brain hemorrhages I would have
Starting point is 00:49:25 always put my everything into it but I definitely think that I probably did it with much more ferocity like I genuinely was more worried about getting fired than I was about um dying you know what I mean because you did because it's that's like a rational thing you can think about like when you're early 20s and you've got to consider your own mortality I just didn't my dad died and then I was like oh death right yeah but it was your dad when he died 69 it's just too young yeah too young she said he's 68 yeah no my mom's 70 like it's yeah it's it's it was too it was just way too young but that made me think about death more than being close to it and having you know but yeah been very close to it thank you it was it isn't cat's vomit it's actually
Starting point is 00:50:14 anchovy oh emulsion my favorite okay great i love anchovy but it does look a bit like i don't know put them in a. Do you want me to do them? Sorry. Yeah, only because I want to serve up the monkfish. Do you like monkfish? Yes! The king of the fishes. That monkfish is so good.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Is it? That is so good. You're so sweet. No, no, no, no. I'm not being sweet. I'm being completely honest that is delicious um okay so you you listen to this podcast you know what the questions are last supper let's know this is so this is a question that i ask myself people around me
Starting point is 00:50:59 at like all the time fine and so it changes all the time and that's fine right it would begin definitely with oysters i've decided from anywhere in particular um i don't know just really good juicy yummy oysters that doesn't have so much of a memory attached to it but um with some like epic bread and butter and the oysters need to have the red wine shallot vinaigrette and loads of lemon um so it'd be that and then the rest of my whole meal is basically just dad's stuff because i was like if i could have a meal from anywhere i just want my dad's cooking back and then there's so many to choose from that i was really trying to figure out what it was but if i were to be doing this last meal in like christmas time then i think it wouldn't be his club sandwich it
Starting point is 00:51:46 wouldn't be his amazing macaroni cheese that used to have mature cheddar and like thick cut smoky bacon and parmesan and like it was next level it wouldn't be that it would be um he used to make this beef stew with orange that was like mental it was so good with his um sweet potato mash alongside it and then he would always just grill veggies just like char-grilled kind of veggies um and then he made this it would be the dessert would be a toss-up between a crumble with thick custard i would probably need apple and i'd need that crumble to be barely cooked i mean some chewy bits on the top and then basically like raw i agree as you get closer to the fruit but would you do a mixture apple and plum or is it just apple i think classic or maybe apple and blackberry because i used to have that as a kid
Starting point is 00:52:42 quite a lot but then my dad it would either be that or it would be my dad used to make poached red wine pears with his homemade amaretto ice cream. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. And little amaretto biscuits. It is the yummiest thing. So he'd always make it look really pretty on the plate. And then you've just got syrup, red wine syrup, and then the poached pear and then loads of homemade amaretto ice cream. Amaretto, just the broken up amaretto
Starting point is 00:53:06 biscuits the ice cream oh the booze and it makes it really soft so it's really really really good um and then to drink do you have his recipes i've got them in my head yeah because he used to no no he used to his famous thing he used to do all the time that I definitely can't do myself is just his white wine, ginger, garlic, lemon chicken, marinated chicken, but you marinate it for like a day and then you just grill it. And then we would, and then the next morning that sauce that was in it would turn into jelly
Starting point is 00:53:38 and you'd have that on bread. It was so good. You'd have the jelly, the chicken jelly on bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you could just have like a spoonful of the jelly and it would just go with all of this amazing stuff so that is but i mean there's a million other meals that i'm not saying that like it would and would it be bubbles with it well so that's the thing it would definitely the oysters need the champagne but then i think i think with that meal oh no where I kidding yet? It'd be champagne the whole way through
Starting point is 00:54:05 but then finishing off with a dessert wine and then some like chocolates, like you know how you do in posh restaurants and you've got the kind of Petit fours. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So you can like round it off. So do you host a lot? Mm-hmm. When you have time. Mm-hmm. So like what was the last dinner party that you did and what did you cook?
Starting point is 00:54:25 I can't remember what was the last thing I cooked. What did you have on your menu? The last thing, the last hosting I've done a lot is just, like, parties. Oh. Like, parties, parties. And what are the drinks? Like, fat, dirty house parties. Okay, so what, oh my God, does that still happen?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah. Oh, wow. Because I really love my house, and it's really easy, and, like, the last one that we did. But don't people wreck it? Isn't that point not to have a house party they've always been all right okay fine i do also have a little kind of bar area in my house oh so you can make things really easily there's a there's a yeah i think yeah oh my god you have like a pub in your yeah in my house is that but you're not you can only drink one drink so you
Starting point is 00:55:03 just like to entertain for really like to entertain for other people but one of them is beer and the other one is prosecco oh wow yes but then it was taking me a really didn't take me long for me to realize that the prosecco had run out and then everyone was like oh i get that prosecco on tap and i was like oh shit i should probably refill that one because i was being more concerned about like and then I had an IPA on that was 16% and I didn't realise because I don't really drink beer I always, whenever I'm in the pub
Starting point is 00:55:31 and people are drinking beer because for a million different reasons I don't really drink it I'll always have sips of theirs so I end up drinking other people's I'm a nightmare I end up drinking other people's drinks because as soon as someone's got a glass of beer in their hand
Starting point is 00:55:42 I'm like I've got to have it Do you like the taste of it? I've got to love it I absolutely love it It's full of bloody got a glass of beer in their hand i'm like i gotta have it do you like the taste of it i love it i absolutely love the bloody gluten yeah exactly so i'm like one glug and then i'm done and then i'll carry it with my you know what you've just given me like a proper movie star thing and i really appreciate that because i like that you've got a pub in your house it's so i'd like to say it's cocktail bar sorry what is it what did you call it it was my shed and then i turned it into a bar so it's in the back of your garden yeah at the end of your garden because i was like i don't need a shed i mean i've barely i've got a courtyard garden it's got like trees
Starting point is 00:56:12 in it and but there's but that's it so how many how many people can this shed fit not very many okay we ram it and then i made it glass everywhere so i wanted it to look like a great gatsby bar basically everywhere in my house is everything's always a bit, it's a bit weird. Like you sort of don't know what you're going to get around the corner. Cause I had, I didn't buy my own house for ages and ages. Like I've only been living in this house
Starting point is 00:56:32 for about a year and a half. Cause I kind of just, you know, sorted other, made sure everyone was good before I, and so I'd had all of this time to dream up what I wanted to look like. And I love interior design. Like I love it. Oh, do you want to do mine? I'm had all of this time to dream up what I wanted to look like and I love interior design like I love it so much but I like doing all of the like everything's a little bit weird
Starting point is 00:56:51 and a bit magical so there's um yeah so in the bar it's like it's bright pink and there's these like mirrored tiles everywhere and this kind of like a speakeasy sort of vibe and so there's Prosecco on tap and beer on tap and um and then all these bonkers glasses and it turns into a piece everyone comes around and you like and you're all crambling in there and there's like no room because it's really really tiny and it just gets a vibe going and what's on the playlist what's on the playlist um do you play there's a lot of crime when it's when it's my like hardcore friends from because of you know i mean you're in a circle mates um and this last party that i had we basically waited for everyone to leave and then we just got on their decks and like put on just just grime just like dirty grime and like
Starting point is 00:57:33 raved like mad if i had a bar in the house i'd be in there every night yeah we wouldn't get you out but i'd live there mom we've got a shed in the garden do you want to convert it that is amazing ok so mum may have fluffed the pudding a bit no actually I think she has fluffed it so we may have to get your chocolates out we basically made a chocolate cake that was dairy free
Starting point is 00:57:59 because I thought you were dairy free yeah yeah yeah we forgot about the gluten part so basically it's got gluten in it. So you do not have to have it. So... God love you. We fucked up, basically.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Sorry. So it's there. You can look at it. You can smell it. We can chuck into one of your chocolates. And we've got some raspberries. Perfect. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And we've got dairy-free ice cream. Your Swedish glass. We do have dairy-free ice cream. Oh my God. If you'd like some, but you do not have to. Thank you so much. If you've like, you know, this is like. Is it my fault?
Starting point is 00:58:27 It's my fault. I'm taking so long to. It's our fault. I don't normally take this long to eat. No, it's because I've been asking you a lot of questions. Like, absolutely. Don't worry. I just, yeah, I'm also the fastest eater in the world.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Amelia Clark. Yes. I can't quite believe that you're in my house, you've come, well my mum's house, you've come over for the chicken soup. Yes. You've chatted, you've been so lovely. Eating matzo balls. Never forget.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And now you get a tea towel. Yes, the tea towel. Thank you, it's been such a pleasure. Thank you so much. I'm going to slide into your DMs more often now. Yeah, girl. Well, I love Emilia Clarke. I knew I'd love her.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Mother of Dragons. Oh, please, Mum, you don't know who the mother is. Daenerys. Oh, there we go. I'm going to watch it now, because now I've met her. She's lovely. She is lovely. I want to see the film.
Starting point is 00:59:36 She's sweet. Tiny little thing. I thought she was going to be taller than me, because she was a mother of dragons. Do you think she's taller than Kylie Minogue? I don't know. She was taller than me because she was a mother of dragons. Do you think she's taller than Kylie Minogue? I don't know. She was very little. And like beautiful and sweet and generous.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Bought the best presents. Oh my God. Take note, guests. Wow. Like champagne and really posh chocolates. Delightful, sweet, lovely person. I can't even imagine what that was like to have two brain hemorrhages. Aneurysms.
Starting point is 01:00:06 But yeah, brave, lovely, generous, sweet, down to earth, everything that I expected and more. Is she going to be your friend, Jess? I like to think so. I'd like to get invited to one of those shed parties. So would I. You'd be the one to clear out the tap for a second. Darling, I'm thinking of now converting the shed
Starting point is 01:00:25 and having Primitivo on tap oh my god imagine where's mum oh she's in the shed again with her Primitivo thank you
Starting point is 01:00:43 Emilia Clarke and thank you to everyone that's listened to this series. We love doing the series. Do we love it, Mum? I do. I'm loving it more and more. Oh, really? I'm revving up for the big tour, darling. Thank you so much for listening. We hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and a good holiday and some rest.
Starting point is 01:01:02 We will be back in the new year sooner than you may think. We are taking a bit less of a break this time because sod it, we're having such a good time. But happy Christmas, have a lovely rest and see you in 2020. See you in 2020. The music you've heard on Table Manners is by Peter Duffy and Pete Fraser. Table Manners is produced by Alice Williams.

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