Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - S9 Ep 21: Emily Eavis

Episode Date: June 24, 2020

If we can’t get to Glastonbury Festival, we thought we’d bring a little bit of Glastonbury to you. What an honour to have the Queen of Worthy farm, Emily Eavis on Table Manners on the week where Glasto would have been celebrating 50 years with all of us in the SUNNY fields.We delve right into Glastonbury food; how they choose the food stalls, specialities (the secret Goan Curry by West Holts), artist's private chefs, and of course mum has secured a Chicken Matzoh ball soup stand for next year  Emily tells us about growing up on the farm, how they’ve had to deal with the current pandemic and how she sings Moana songs in the festival office. As if this episode couldn’t get any better, Emily invites me back to perform next year, with mum in tow....well, we will see about that. Make sure to tune into the BBC coverage of Glastonbury highlights this weekend! Enjoy! (Side note - I'm overzealous and in awe in this episode so please excuse my fawning over this excellent woman!) X Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Manners. I'm Jessie Ware and I'm Zooming with my mum. Say hi. Hi darling. Today we have a remarkable, brilliant woman who only runs the best festival in the whole wide world. It's Emily Evis who is all things Glastonbury Festival. Unfortunately Glastonbury isn't on this year, of course, because of older Miss Arona. Old who? Corona!

Oh, Miss Corona. Anyway, it's not on this year. However, Emily has taken the time out to chat with us before the BBC actually are showing a whole weekend's worth of memorable performances from Glastonbury, because it would have been this weekend. We're all sad about that. But however, we're going to see all the best bits from Glastonbury, because it would have been this weekend. We're all sad about that, but however, we're going to see all the best bits from Glastonbury

over the course of the weekend on BBC, and we're very, very lucky to have her. She doesn't do that much press, ever really. So we're about to ask her the hard-hitting questions about what she has for breakfast. Apologies in advance, it's a Monday morning, and everyone is Zooming at the moment and potentially there may be a few audio discrepancies,

whether that's my mum forgetting to put her mic on or connections, sorry in advance. The wonderful Emily Evis coming up on Table Manners. Emily Evis thank you so much for doing Table Manners oh well thanks for having me this is quite the booking for us no honestly this is you know

you have so much mystique and kind of you're this person that we all love and adore and worship every year it's a pleasure to have you and meet you finally. How are you?

How is it? You know, it's coming up to next week would have been the weekend, but how are you feeling? How's lockdown been? Do you know what? It's so far, I think it's getting better now. I think March was devastating. We were just so gutted.

And it was like one of those weird things where even though it looked like the rest of the world was kind of they were all far ahead of us and everything was kind of shutting down all over the place it kind of felt like we weren't you know we weren't going to have to for a bit didn't it we were all optimistically carrying on and then suddenly within like 24 hours it was like there's no chance we're going to be able to do this and so we kind of pulled the plug on it and um yeah it was really it was really sad because we'd kind of we got so far with it so we had it all in place um and but you know now it's getting better because we're kind of through we're nearly through June and I think as soon as we're through June it'll be like we'll be

on to next year yeah I feel like yeah I remember you because the announcement of the lineup kind of came out and everyone was like yes virtual cheer and then of course you couldn't you didn't know that you wouldn't be able to do it it was just yeah yeah exactly we and to be honest we did we kind of we were like maybe we shouldn't release the lineup but we'd spent so long putting it all together so we slightly put that out, realising that there was a chance that we might not be able to do it. But we wanted to kind of let people know because it was either that or like, you know,

people go, oh, well, who was going to play? So we just, we put it out there. And then a week later we cancelled. Well, I was going to be on the line up and I was really excited to play. And, you know, there'll be another year and it's fine. But I mean, I just have to say it is the best it's the best festival in the world I've had such incredible memories there oh that's brilliant I remember my first my first Glastonbury was

when I'd finished university and we all went and we got there on the Wednesday and I remember the Goan fish curry that changed my life by the West Holtz stage. So how did you find that? Did somebody give you a tip on that? Because that's real kind of insider info. So on your first Glastonbury experience, that's pretty lucky. It may not have been my first Glastonbury experience, but however, it's made an everlasting impression on me.

The Goan fish curry, people that know, know. And it is sensational. And I I mean I wanted to talk to you about because you know you've got like over what 400 different varieties of food different stalls um and you know it's not just burger and chips however much we love burger and chips you've got everything there the yeah the food is so much it really has taken a step forward in the last kind of 10 years or so I mean it's always's always, we've always had good food, but I think we've got rid of some of those kind of vans, which were just like churning out rubbish burgers. And now everybody kind of makes a real effort, like with their, even the presentation of

the stalls, it's just really like handmade signs and real love kind of gone into it. And the food is just amazing. I mean, there's like everything. I mean, for us, it's amazing because we live in Somerset and you just don't get much variety of what, you know what I mean? Like if you wanted a curry,

you'd have to like drive for 20 minutes. Do you know what I mean? And like now suddenly, like for a week, everything is on the doorstep. I wondered how you choose which stalls. Loads of people must want to be at Glastonbury and show off their food. I just wondered how you choose. Yeah, it is quite, people must want to be at Glastonbury and show off their food I just wondered how you choose yeah it is quite um I mean to be honest a lot of people have been here

for a long time so they kind of um you know the rollover of the same people and then we kind of we tweak it a little bit every year um I mean we they put applications in and we go through all of the applications we've got a markets office who just deal with all the stalls alone. It's quite a big job. Emily, is anyone doing chicken soup and matzo balls yet? Oh, good question. You know what? I don't know.

That's my speciality. And I think it's the only way I'm ever going to get to Glastonbury because Jessie never, ever lets me go on her guest list to accompany her has Jessie not brought you down no she hasn't Emily they're gold dust those tickets are gold dust and sorry I don't want to be in the rabbit hole with my mother after I've performed I'm sorry I don't want to be in the rabbit hole either no you don't you don't have to go to the rabbit hole I don't even know what that is to be honest I really wouldn't recommend it if you're going to come for the rabbit hole. I don't even know what that is. To be honest, I really wouldn't recommend it. If you're going to come for the first time,

you can easily avoid the rabbit hole. As good a venue as it is. My mum saw when Shirley Bassey played that Shirley, you know, came by helicopter, had the Diamante Wellies

and that is how my mum wants to make her entrance for when, like, when I play. As long as I don't spill the chicken soup, darling. Well, I mean, I do think it would be quite medicinal to have some chicken soup and matzo balls on site.

Because it's Jewish penicillin. It sorts everyone out. I think it would sort out a hangover. My God, we could all do with that, to be honest. I mean, so, I mean, Jessie, are you up for coming back next year? I mean, I'm thinking we make a plan now. Absolutely. Absolutely.

100%. I was like there, like watching my opportunity to play this album pass me by and there. And I was, oh my God, absolutely. And I now have it in audible confirmation. I'm coming. Absolutely will be there.

Brilliant. With bells on. With your mum. My mum may be allowed to come with the chicken soup. Thank you, Amelie. Yeah, just confirm that now let's get it let's get it mum will pay you in chicken soup for her ticket there you go it's oh my god i can't think of anything better to be honest but i want to know how you do it how do you pick your your food for the week a weekend or week i guess or do you just not eat for that weekend to be honest I mean I wish we had

I'd love to have the whole weekend just exploring the food because it's so amazing but like it's really hard to find that time to even like get a meal in because it's so manic and you're kind of so adrenalized just running around but when you said the going fish curry place there is normally like one if there's like one store that we don't miss it's probably that one um like it's just so it's so good but i yeah because i i presume it's almost like your wedding every year or you know a bar mitzvah or you know a huge event where it's you're so wanting everyone else to have a good time you kind of maybe forget about eating looking after yourself eating drinking properly sleeping properly exactly i mean how do you how do you relax after it's all done do you get the blues

like everybody else or are you like fuck off out of my field get out i'm sick to death of seeing the sight of you but you know what in the like in my kind of childhood people just took ages and ages to to leave like it kind of the departure went on for about two weeks. And so you just have people here for ages. But now most people are pretty good at leaving on the Monday. So like, you know, by the following weekend, it's actually quite peaceful. We do have a kind of welfare facility

that looks after some of the more vulnerable people, you know, at the end. And so that kind of keeps going for a couple of weeks. And, but, you know, it takes quite a long time to recover I think it kind of takes until September really to feel like normal again so much goes into it you're just so exhausted

of course but you've grown up with this Emily Glastonbury has been part of your world since you were born well how old were you when it first took off? well it started before me so um I arrived in 79 and the festival started in 1970 so yeah it'd been going quite a long time but all the fun was in the 80s surely it was pretty it was pretty hairy in the 80s it was quite different to how it is now it was more like the wild west it was kind of like unpredictable nature of the festival

was like it was uh how can i describe it there were kind of more more there were more drugs more dealers and it was a little bit more like wild because there was really no fence so even though we put a fence up people used to kind of like storm in and and as a result there were more, it was a little bit more like illegal raves and stuff. And with that came a few more casualties. And, you know, it was a bit more unruly. Did your dad protect you from that? My mum did, actually, because my mum was kind of always like keeping me safe at home. And my dad was kind of running around dealing with people and kind of putting fires out, literally.

So, but it's hard to, at that point, I think if you'd said, will it be going, you know, in 2020, no one would have said yes. It kind of felt like every year was the last. It was so, so kind of wild and just a bit like it had that sort of, yeah, illegal rave kind of feeling to it. So can you remember the first act that you remember as being most memorable when you were a kid that made such a big impression on you? I remember things like Van Morrison, Elvis Costello, Shakespeare's sister sister Aswad um Ian Dury Joan Baez oh wow there was only one stage so it wasn't like it is now we all kind of watched the same band so everyone was on the same like so every audience member I guess was watching the same act which now is just so different and

when you come you'll see it's like there are so many different stages so like you know it's very you'll kind of you'll meet your mates at the end of the day and be like what have you what have you seen what have you done and everyone's had a completely different experience when i'm at glastonbury my step count is off the chain i mean i'm doing like 40 000 steps in a day because you just it's a world mum it's kind of it's this magical world gosh it's yeah get ready mum yeah you need to get training for Glastonbury schlepping yeah it is like it is a world and it is it is a city and it's um and you do so much exercise more than you'll ever do in your life because you kind of run between we I mean we do we like run between stages and kind of don't want to miss stuff. There's lots of hills.

So it is really good. People actually do like runs around the fence line. Have you heard about that? Like kind of Saturday morning jobs and stuff? Yeah. That's a bit of a thing now. What? Like the 5K?

But it wouldn't be. How many Ks is it? Well, I don't know. It's about. It's probably more than. It's about eight miles long, the fence. So that's pretty good. How did you train to help your father run Glastonbury

did you go to what you went to school I assume you weren't yeah I went to school yeah I went to school I went to Goldsmiths in London um oh wow I went to oh that's right where I live yeah I'm in New Crossgate yeah so um I was in London studying and teaching in Newham and Goldsmiths and I came back when my mum was ill because I was helping look after her because she wasn't very well she died about a month before the festival so I kind of I didn't see myself like in this role at all but because of the circumstances I ended up getting kind of really involved that year mainly just to help my dad through it all which year was that Emily that was 99 oh wow I'm so sorry so yeah no it was really it was kind of emotional I mean at the time it was really difficult and it but in a way it was like quite a comfort having a festival at that

point because it was so much about their kind of relationship and their life together so we kind of um threw so much into it and we really like um it became a lifeline good the festival to us so so then from then on did you carry on working on the festival or did you so sorry did you did you never finish your degree no so I left I had a placement I came back and then I guess I thought that year that I was probably I needed a bit of experience you know my the question that you originally asked was about how I ended up knowing anything about putting on events well I kind of I went back to London and I put on loads and loads of gigs so I just I kind of I went back to London and I put on loads

and loads of gigs so I just I kind of I did lots of work for charities and I organized loads and loads of gigs across town and I put on bands because I kind of wanted to know that I could do it um I didn't want to just like be in this role without actually having being able to have any experience in the live sector so I kind of yeah that's what I did for a few years um whilst working on the festival at the same time and who was your first booking um when in in your London gigs so we did we booked Vampire Weekend actually at the social um we did a night called Holy Cow which was brilliant um and then we booked and then we did like kind of bigger bands like R.E.M. at that point. And, you know, Noel Gallagher did some things, and Coldplay and various bands.

So we did quite a lot of stuff. But The Social was, like, our kind of new music night, which I did with Nick, my husband. And we just used to put on those bands. Vampire Weekend were, like're like yeah they're just like their first trip to London uh it was brilliant really good you know that room downstairs at the social yes it was like packed yeah okay sweaty packed brilliant yeah I wanted to know growing up what's your kind of um who was making dinner what were you eating um what's kind of a food memory from when you were young so um we grew up with probably so my mum would would always be preparing meals and you

know I'm like the youngest of a lot of kids and there are lots of different there are different strands there's been like two marriages so I've got like six half sisters basically and a brother so um so there would be kind of my mum kind of did all the cooking my dad's quite traditional in the fact that he's kind of a traditional farmer and you know he quite likes like just really simple like meat and two veg you know like that would be his and so um whereas my mum would try and experiment and he'd be like where's the swede he he um we went to a restaurant the other day and he'd be like, where's the swede? We went to a restaurant the other day and he was like, well, before lockdown that is,

and he was like, have you got any turnip? So is Glastonbury an active farm? Was it an active farm? Yes. So did your dad have animals or crops? So did your dad have animals or crops? He is a dairy farmer and we're the sixth generation. Oh, wow. So my family have been here for a very long time. So it's got that feeling of kind of the ancestral home, you know, like kind of like the history.

You can feel it in the walls. So you've been brought up on full fat milk all your life? Exactly, exactly. Have any of you told your dad that you were going to be vegan? Yeah, I guess. In fact, there's a couple of vegetarians. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if people have gone off dairy completely, but we're not massive. I'm not a massive consumer of dairy. Yeah, I'm not sure how my dad would feel about oat milk I'd have to ask him oh I know how I feel about oat milk how do you feel

how do you feel about oat milk I feel not very happy I like proper milk I feel like you are you are discriminating when I feel like you've never even had an oat milk flat white yet mum I have darling I have had an oat milk flat white yet mum I have darling I have had an oat milk flat white and a chai latte how did it taste it tastes the same to be honest yeah exactly I hate to admit it so Jessie how are you with dairy well you know what I think this has been the saddest thing that I've learned in lockdown. I think I'm slightly dairy intolerant and I won't give up on it

because I adore kind of everything. I mean, my ultimate pleasure is cream on ice cream. So like I kind of, yeah, live for it. But yeah, my husband's well into all the alternatives and I feel like he's just pushing out dairy from all of our lives. And yeah, I think it's probably a good thing dairy from all of our lives and yeah I think it's probably a good thing for me but yeah no I love it all do you do you have you don't do you

have a stand you should have a stand or maybe you do well we sell our cheese but um oh wow it's cheese it's just a just a worthy cheddar but um I love it it's my favorite oh do you I'll get some I'll send some over I Oh, I love it. It's got that, it's really good cheddar with that slight crunch in it with the calcium. I love it. Oh, yeah, that's exactly how it is. Quite rich, quite kind of nutty. Yeah.

I'll send some over. Do you sell it in kind of the local farm shops then? I mean, obviously you do. Like, it's a cheddar that, can we get it in Waitrose? Well, to be honest, we're just about to, it will be available in the co-op soon. So you'll be it's a it's a cheddar that can we get it in waitrose well to be honest we're just about to it will be available in the co-op soon so you'll be able to get it so um that's the fact we're just about to look at eight different types of packaging in a minute um so yeah that's something that's that's something that's happening now but but funnily enough my husband's gone off he's slightly intolerant as well so in fact I can see from here a an oatmeal a bottle

on his desk which is so yeah he's he's off he's off dairy seems to be be the way now does he work at Glastonbury too yes he does he does many of the bookings so um he oversees all of the music now which is great because it kind of takes because the festival like there's although the bands are really really important there's like a whole part of the festival which is like non-music which takes a lot of time as well so um and running all the dealing with all the different area organizers and all the food and everything else so um so Nick takes that um pressure now which is good dealing with all the agents oh god poor thing but how did you meet nick did you because nick was um the chemical brothers manager right is he still or no yes he is still and he's looked after them for a long time so i was trying to get him i was trying to get the chems to donate a track for an oxfam kind of CD type thing you know like a cover mouse CD they used to do in

the olden days yeah um and um and then that's how I met him so that was really lucky because he is he's slotted in really well down here he's brilliant but but Emily what I'd want what I want to know is that how do you separate work with your father I just I wonder how how that was and was it ever a bit of a struggle did you feel like you were just talking about Glastonbury the whole time yeah I think so I I kind of battled to not let it overtake our personal you know our father daughter relationship because it is such a sort of dominating thing and it kind of takes up so much of our lives but you know we we have quite a separate separate roles really and as much as we do um you know we have times where we talk about certain things that cross both of our worlds but actually he kind of leads us to it which is great and I and I leave him to do his things he likes to

kind of go and meet you know know, the landowners who, because we use like about 20 farms in total. So he does a lot of that work. And there's a kind of degree of separation from the things that we do. So, but we've always been very close. And there's always been that kind of understanding that we're just like, yeah, that we're kind of going to do the right thing. We've got similar sort of instincts.

Do you know what I mean? just like yeah that we're kind of going to do the right thing we've got similar sort of instincts do you know what I mean um I think if I'd kind of been trying to like you know cash in on it and kind of like make bring in loads of massive brands or whatever maybe that would have been slightly like alarm bells would be ringing but I've kind of tried to keep it as pure as I can to the original you know essence of what it was in 1970 so um yeah I think we've got a good a good vibe. Do your brothers and sisters get involved with the business as well? Not no not with the business no they're much older than me so I came along 14 years after my brother. Oh wow. So yeah there's kind of I suppose we were. different generation exactly exactly and so they kind of had

like they had proper professions and my brother's a doctor and snap yeah oh really yeah proper that's exactly how I said to a proper job a proper job so it was like he yeah they kind of were like quite far down the road with other other professions when I got involved I wanted to I wanted to also highlight that you have been doing loads even though the festival couldn't happen this year you've been really helping with a lot of um stuff to do with covid you know you donated thousands of liters of hand sanitizeriser to frontline services and, you know, with masks and ponchos and cotton bags. And weren't some of your crew helping out to put together the Bristol Nightingale Hospital? Yeah, exactly.

No, we've like, we were because, you know, remember that like those first couple of weeks in lockdown when there was a shortage of everything? Well, in fact, for about a month, we had so much because we obviously had ordered enough hand sanitizer for the whole festival and all of our crew. And then we had so many resources. So we just kind of started like handing them out to all of the hospitals and then cotton bags for scrubs. And we kind of started, yeah, so that was quite a good project for us

because, you know, at the beginning of it, it was like you felt a bit helpless, didn't you? So we kind of, it was quite, it was quite a good feeling to be able to play a part in it and help out in some way. So how will you be spending the weekend that was meant to be the festival? Because I know that you're doing a whole weekend on the BBC. Am I right in thinking that? Yeah, so the BBC are going to be doing some coverage and some like going back through archive sets and things and that kind of greatest you know moments over the years 50 years

etc and um yeah I think just um we'll be we'll be we'll be here on the farm and um and the BBC are going to be down here as well so it's going to be pretty busy and we're kind of trying to you know to say to the public, don't come down. And so we'll be putting that message out there as well. Would people come down? Is that what people, you think people are going to intend to do? Would they just come down regardless? Well, I think not necessarily. And to be honest, on fallow years, they tend to be pretty good, but you know, there might be the odd person. There was a from france who'd walked all the way from france to see radiohead on our last year off and um and he'd come all the way i know i just felt so bad for him he's so tired and um and it was just obviously

there was no festival on so it's normally a few waves and strays but it'll be okay i think i'm sure most people will stay at home especially especially as we're still in lockdown. Yeah, so we'll see. It'll be interesting. And I think you'll probably be quite quiet. You know what's the worst? I guess on these kind of sunny June days, it just feels like, you know, just really, really quiet for us because we're so used to this kind of like buzz at this time.

So it'll probably be quite a reflective week next week i hope it's not blazing hot that weekend just because that would be rubbing salt in the wound i hope it pours down oh my god jesse i it's like the weather forecast is looking really good it's so annoying god's sake i know it's just typical i'm like no what a shame never mind your next year will be good yeah it'll be even better and to be honest one of my best glastonbury's was with um when it it was torrential rain that 2007 i mean we can maybe it will be including the festival's food oh let's have it today jesse because it's a festival all right fine okay so last supper final meal glastonbury milk starter main pud and drink of choice go oh from all the the store okay so i'd start

it can be anything i absolutely i wonder whether any of the stalls will kind of get into your last supper or not uh yeah i mean i think we'd have to make it out of festival stalls just for that yeah okay come on then so i think probably um there's this really old Japanese stall, which is, they've been here since I was little. And they are amazing. Really, really lovely kind of family run Japanese stall. So I'd probably start there with some kind of like Japanese sort of starter. Where are they? Where are they usually placed or do they move?

Just in case people need to know you're like doing the kind of con de nas the the time out um for people to kind of write it down for next next year yeah okay so they're really near goose hall which is where our crew catering is um which so most near the meeting point basically um so you want to and actually it works quite well because you'd start there and then you'd walk up to west holts for yeah your main course which would be like the going fish curry for sure uh-huh um and then and then i'm not sure what you do for dessert at the festival maybe you just go for some kind of i mean cakes is not really so much a kind of strong point

um I think I've had a churros or two at Glastonbury but I don't know if I have had that much sweet stuff what about ice cream oh yeah you could could go for some nice local kind of creamy ice cream definitely yeah yeah um some ice cream with some churros are you a sweet or a savory kind of girl then emily i quite like we eat quite a lot of kind of um kind of savory sort of asian food me and my husband's really my husband's a really really good cook he's really into food so he would have already been starting to think about what we're going to eat tonight for example that's my kind of man yeah yeah that's that's me yeah so he'll be like he'll be starting to plan and he'll know exactly what we've got in the fridge um and so what are you having tonight well I don't know he's not here so you see I

wouldn't know I thought I was really into cooking until I met him and now I'm just like pretty much redundant I do the kids food and then he just does all of the adult food, which is brilliant. But it's kind of like, I've got to really fight to like get in the kitchen. Have you been able to get together with your dad? Yes. Yeah, we have, which is good. Are you a bubble? We've bubbled up. Yeah, exactly. Good.

But you guys are bubbled, right? Well, we've started to bubble. Yeah, we're bubbling. If it's not mum dropping food. We saw each other in the garden for a while. But then yesterday they came round and they came in the kitchen a bit. That's good. It was hard not to hug the grandchildren. That was the worst thing. Yeah, I bet.

And so hard for them to understand because they're so young. Yeah, so difficult. Yeah, I bet. And so hard for them to understand because they're so young. Yeah, so difficult. It's so confusing. Yeah, my four-year-old daughter just keeps talking about the cough. Oh, the cough. And when the cough goes, you know, we'll have the festival back.

And it's just like, oh, bless. So you have three children, don't you? Yeah, three. So nine, seven and four. So they've all just had their birthdays. So yeah, it's quite hectic. I have to say homeschooling, I thought I'd be a teacher when I went to Goldsmiths,

but I've been really bad, really bad. It's not been easy. Emily, do you sing karaoke? Do you sing karaoke ever? I'm constantly singing so I just walk around the office our office has got really high ceilings and I keep talking about how we should have some kind of choral so what's your song that you sing in the office oh everything what did you sing this morning Moana as I was as I was walking Moana where you you are. Oh, sing it, Emily. No, I can't sing it now.

I can't, like, it needs to just flow as I'm walking in. All those Moana songs get in your head. It's so catchy, Moana. Do you not think it's more catchy than Frozen? Oh, well, actually, I was really into the second soundtrack of Frozen 2. I felt like that 80s moment that they kind of did like a toto. They did kind of toto. It went lost in the woods when he's, yeah, that was an excellent musical moment, I think.

Yeah, it was actually. Even the start of Frozen 2 has got some quite good music. But I mean, it was the, but Moana to me is like so addictive. I mean, I can't, I have to like not watch it after like midday because I can't, it just stays in my head for days and days and days. Oh, I agree. I agree. And we had Nicole Scherzinger on the podcast and she's Moana's mum, the voice of.

Oh, wow. And so she did her, we make our nest from the fire. The water is sweet inside. And yeah, it's great. She was in the kitchen and Jessie said to to her daughter this is moana's mum and she said where's moana i want to know what your um did you ever have packed lunch when you went to school yeah were you a packed lunch or school dinners kind of girl uh i had school dinners but there were times when i had packed lunches, obviously like school trips, stuff like that.

And what was your sandwich of choice? And did you have a special lunchbox? So I'm going back to a sort of like fairly traditional, like we would go for kind of a cheese and pickle sort of sandwich. Yeah, love that. But obviously, like we used to make butter. So I used to make butter with my mum from the milk. And so we'd sit at the table and make butter. Well, you know, with those kind of butter paddle things.

Have you seen those? Oh, fabulous. Yeah. So my mum would bring it out of the bowl and I'd make it into a rectangle with those paddles. And it was just the best butter in the world. Like really, really creamy. And so that would be my sandwich with our kind of far butter. That's such a lovely memory to have.

I don't know. Have you tried that in lockdown to make butter with the kids or is it just too much of a fad? To be honest, I haven't. Nick, my husband, is really he's like, we've got to start making butter. But we grow so many. Our time is spent in the garden because we we grow a lot of our own vegetables and we have a massive um you know veg patch and fruit fruit patch and stuff so we've been harvesting a lot at the moment so yesterday we were getting all the broad beans in and all the right you know beans and tomatoes and courgettes and red peppers so yeah so we're making we are spending a lot of time making things but it's always it has to be from the garden at the moment do you ever go on holiday and if you do because i feel like kind of glastonbury is this defining moment of of everyone's summer but do

you go abroad ever and if you do is there any particular place that you go that like one place would you just stay in the uk quite a lot we quite often go to cornwall so we try and go to cornwall for like most of august each year um oh nice we spend a lot of time in cornwall have you been to cornwall yeah and i think there's really great food there too so i i'm mad about the food yeah really good food and they're really proud of their produce and their food in cornwall um and they yeah it's really it's really really good food and also just amazing for kids so like our kids are just like learning to surf and just spent all their time just kind of catching waves and you know being battered about in freezing water so it's

really it's great and we don't I mean we kind of avoided like airports for the last few years just because we've got so many kids and it's quite um nice just not having to go too far but to be honest I would really love to just be away right now aren't you just craving are you craving like some kind of getaway yeah yeah we go to Greece every year so that's where I got married that's where mum is literally with she's going to be waving that antibody positive test to anybody who will take it as a immunity passport so she can get on a flight there that is amazing i mean i have to say i think greece is pretty unbeatable isn't it yeah it is great but yeah hopefully we'll be able to go i don't know emily a few more questions before we leave you to decide on your cheddar and packaging

but I wanted to know have any artists ever brought their own private chefs backstage um yeah quite a few actually oh right okay I remember like Muse bought their own kitchen um their own you know chef and then kind of kitchen area that we kind of built but yeah I mean most most people are happy with um eat to the beat do you know eat to then kind of kitchen area that we kind of built but yeah I mean most most people are happy with um eat to the beat do you know eat to the beat yes it's really good amazing food really good do you think you've got good table manners Emily I mean I think so my dad was a bit of a stickler for table manners when I was growing up so he would like and he would sort of do that thing of like correcting me when one of my friends

had bad table manners what is a kind of like way of not being telling them off yeah so he'd go like love that no we always use put our fork in that you know that way around for example or like Emily don't forget and I'd be like I'm sure I'm doing it the right way around and then I'd realize that he was talking about one of my mates um but yeah how are your table manners I mean I'm I'm doing it the right way around and then I'd realize that he was talking about one of my mates um but yeah how are your table manners I mean I'm I'm greedy I eat too quickly I um over order you never share a meal with Jessie never have tapas or a no I wouldn't share though because she just eats everything and so everybody else tries to keep up with her and we all end up with indigestion I have an insatiable appetite do you not chew your food properly Jessie I shouldn't think so I just I think I chew at a very fast rate yeah and I'm quite um greedy is the word I utilize the

the time I think having kids has made me chew even like I'm literally like a hundred meter sprinter when it comes to chewing so because you have such a short window of peace to eat so you're like quickly get it down get it out totally and what's your worst table manner in somebody else what can't you stand when you see somebody else doing something I think my worst thing is probably not sharing so like if Nick's like should we share that I'm like get your, because I know that realistically, you know, it's a bit of a race, like you say, with kids, you're kind of racing to get through it. Oh, so, so you, so you don't like to share. So you'd be the person that, when a curry's there, you'll be like, I'm having my own main. Well, because Nick's really, so he's really fast. And so he just kind of like races through. And so

I'm like then competing with him. So I'm'm like if we kind of can just go at two different paces rather than like diving back into this bowl in the middle Nick because Nick's like one of four boys and so they they're really really all into food and so like they all would be quite competitive about how much food's on their plate so you know like if someone had an extra potato they'd notice and they're still a little bit like that now. Like at Christmas, it'll be like, well, you know, you've got more carrots than I have. Oh my God, that's so funny. I'm crying. I wanted to know that regarding, you know, when I go to Glastonbury, whether I'm playing or I've been as a punter, whatever.

And I have my, you know, my lineup, my dream lineup of where I'm gonna go and you try and make it and you kind of you're overzealous with your selection because sometimes it's just not going to work out do you have that every year yeah so I totally have a dream lineup every year and I think oh I've got to see like all of these things and do all of this and then I very very rarely get to see any of it like I'm lucky if I kind of see like one or two bands because just because you're so busy and you're like running around in these kind of crisis moments there's always like the most unpredictable things that will be time consuming so as much as I get so excited about it and curate it all and kind of feel really like

proud of kind of what we when we unve it, then I normally miss most of it. But I rely on all of this feedback from people as to how things went. But you are very calm. You seem very calm. And I think that must be absolutely the temperament you need to manage something like Glastonbury because there must be things going constantly wrong

and a zillion people saying, Emily, what shall I do? Emily, this is happening, what shall I do? Emily, this is happening. What shall I do? And you have to just keep calm and manage it. Yeah, I think you get used to a certain level of stress. And that's quite an important part of it. Just to be able to tune out as well and switch off from it all

when you need to focus on something and delegate. And luckily, the team is just so brilliant. out as well and switch off from it all when you need to delegate and delegate yeah and luckily the team is just so it's just so brilliant you know we've got such an amazing bunch of people down here who run all the different areas and so you kind of you know you there is so much trust as well fantastic emily it's been such a pleasure to speak to you thank you so much thanks for having me thank you thank you so so much we will see you next year i'm coming with chicken soup and matzo balls i'm gonna get some cheese we'll get some cheese over we can do a chicken soup cheese exchange i'll get i'll be making butter

by then it'll be amazing What a woman! She was lovely. She was delightful. Just kind of a normal, down-to-earth, easy person. And she's met all those famous stars. And she wasn't a bit starry, was she? She's just, like like so impressive and brilliant I just think that like I mean we didn't talk about the fact that she's been very vocal about it being far more equal the lineup with women and men and and I you know it's

always um been so varied and amazing and I just yeah I don't know she's magic I think she's so inspiring I really really enjoyed that I also love the fact that I've got my first booking of 2021 first festival booking don't worry about it so have I and I'm there I know you really muscled in with the chicken soup oh please can I give you some chicken soup, Emily? I didn't, darling. I didn't. What a wonder woman. Love her. Love Glastonbury. It's the best place on earth.

If you haven't been, good luck getting a ticket next year because it's going to be a big year next year. And I am so thrilled that we got to speak to her. She's a remarkable, brilliant woman in music. She's philanthropic as well. I mean, she thinks about others. That's important. But I just wondered, having got all your energy and adrenaline to Glastonbury, and then you're at the final hurdle.

It's like a champion runner. And then they say, it's over. You're not doing it. It must have been awful for them. But then, then look you can hear she's sorting out packaging for the cheddar she's sorting out a huge weekend of of coverage over the last 50 years because this was the 50th anniversary it's um i feel like she's pretty busy she's also got three kids yeah three children she looks very young I feel like she doesn't

disagree with her dad as much as we disagree probably doesn't exploit her father as much as you exploit me can you bring the shopping over mum instead of the other way around mum yeah mum Alice our wonderful producer has had a suggestion and she is all things audio she thinks maybe we should just do a garden table manners. Who can we get out to come to a garden of ours? I'm fed up of cooking for myself, I'm telling you that. Put the feelers out. Thank you for listening.

We will be back next week with more table manners special circumstances. And in the meantime, go and enjoy the BBC's coverage of Glastonbury Festival this weekend. The music you've heard on Table Manners is by Peter Duffy and Pete Fraser. Table Manners is produced by Alice Williams.