Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Second Helpings - Jade Thirlwall

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

Week 2 of our summer Second Helpings and we’re travelling back to November 2021 where we had pop princess, Jade Thirwall. Jade came over to mums for her favourite meal, a roast chicken dinner with all the trimmings! Turning up in full glam after a long photo shoot, it was just what the doctor ordered for our girl. She talked about her mum’s mince pies - and not the Christmas kind - her penchant for putting crisps in a tuna sarnie, drinking Malibu and always wanting the economy meal on the aeroplane. We discuss her beautiful relationship with the LGBTQ+ community and her obsession with Diana Ross. It’s all in there! Thank you Jade, you gem! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Second Helpings, where we give you some of our wonderful guests from years back that we've enjoyed wonderful dinners and chats with. This week, we have the brilliant Jade. She's one of the people that has one name now. Like, Cher? Was she still in Little Mix when we had her? Yes, she was.

It was season 12. It was recorded in Clapham, and it was back in 2021. She came over because Little Mix had a greatest, hits record out to mark their 10th anniversary. And both her bandmates, Leanne and Perry, were on maternity leave. So she was doing all the promo for a last. She's that kind of gal. Lenny, you made a delicious roast dinner with all the trimmings

because we know how much Jade loves a roast dinner. And she'd just come from a photo shoot and she looked incredibly glamorous. Also, can we also say that Jade has gone on to have such an exciting solo career? She made the best pop song of 2024. Angel of my dream. She's so brilliant. I went to watch her at Glastonbury where she absolutely killed it in the woods.

She's got a gorgeous voice. Yes, she's gifted. She's brilliant. So we're so happy to see all the success she's having. Here it is, Jade on Table Manors. You've rocked up. You've been kicked out of your cab. I don't understand what happened there.

You're not so gorgeous. They wouldn't wait for me. Thank you. To ascribe to the listener what are you wearing. So I am wearing a very colourful, bogey track suit. Oversized, colourful, the rainbow colours are fully in there. What's on the front there? Skull with a knife through it.

Oh, a skull with a knife. It looks like you're going to go skateboarding. Yeah, it's giving Ed Hardy. It is quite, is it Ed Hardy? No, it's a cheaper version of it. I think. Yeah, so that And then I'm giving you an Ariana Grande

A ponytail It's a freaking pony It is, isn't it? Is that all yours, darling? I wish Well, a lot of it is, about to here Well, Cheryl Cole, when we said Is that your shell?

Should I bought it? Yeah, she is. To be honest, I don't usually wear extra pieces and things But I've been at a photo shoot a day And I had to give them all Do you like photos shoots? I hate them.

Not really. They're quite tedious, aren't there? They're quite tedious, aren't there? I know. I know. We did seven looks today. Wow. How long have you been there? Yeah. So I've been there since this morning. You're knackard. You need a good...

I'm cream crackers. Yeah, I bet you are. Have you actually? Don't, because that could bring it out of the eye. Oh, God. I've made you roast chicken stuffing, roasties. cauliflower cheese. Do you know what that's honestly my favourite meal in the world? Well, we did get told. It's one of my favourites as well.

Northern Stodge. Sunday roast. Anything roasted is right up my street. We thought that's what you needed after a hard day's work. I really do. Oh, I'm thrilled to be here. Cheers, we've got champagne, cheers. It is lovely to have you.

Oh, I'm so happy to move this happen. It's been a long time coming. It has, but you're here now, and that's all that matters. But I just have to say that this ponytail is sensational. And the eye makeup is sensational. I kind of feel like you're wasted being in Clapham today when you should be going out to a gay club. Actually, I've wiped a lot of this off in the car with the baby way

because before it was like a big dramatic glittery situate. I like all that. I know I should have kept it on. But do you like those full lashes or do you like the individual? I like the individuals, usually. Mum's a bit more on natural. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I'm not own natural. As long as I have red lipstick on, I'm happy. Oh, if you've got a lip on, you're good. Yeah. Life is lovely, actually. I'm having a ball at the minute. You're doing loads of promo? Do lots of promo?

The promos around the greatest hits? Yes. So we've got a sort of greatest hits album happening with a few new tracks. We've just released, well, we've got a song out called Love Sweet Love. And obviously both the girls are on maternity leave. Yeah, so how's that working out? Are you basically, is that why you're doing seven looks, babes? I'm just womaning the fort.

So they're not doing the promo, so you literally are taking one for the team. I'm doing the whole shebang, yeah. You're a good girl. No, I'm happy to, because I'd hate to be at home twiddling me thumbs. I like being busy. I like working. So I'm more than happy to do it while they're resting off. But I feel like you're quite...

Have you seen the baby? Have you seen the babies? Are you godmother to both? Well, the fabulous rich auntie is the title, I think. I've seen Leys Bubba's so far. She's got twins. Yes. Oh, Greg, she wasn't even that big.

No, she's Diddy. She managed that well, didn't she? I know. And she kept that quiet as well, very well. Yeah. Although for me, it was quite obvious to us because she is so tiny. Like she had this big belly. I felt like to us it was obvious she was having twins.

But, yeah, I went to see them not so long ago actually and they're beautiful. I haven't seen Perry's yet. I'm going to go and see her soon. but I was also like you know I wanted to give them a bit of space because we are literally sisters and we're obsessed with each other but I didn't want to like

intrude and remind them of work too soon do you know what I mean so I give them a bit of time but yeah it's very strange seeing them as mams because I always see us as like kids still I don't know why I feel like it never leaves you the moment you get famous

how old were you when you got chosen I was 18 it was to Lisa it wasn't yeah it was to Lisa she was on mental You were 18? I was 18, probably was 17. Bloody hell. Yeah, and like they say don't like when you get famous at the age, you kind of stay a bit.

Well, that's quite good, isn't it? Yeah. So, okay, so let's talk about you and your food and growing up in Newcastle. South Shield. Just outside Newcastle. Okay, sorry. No, no, it's fine. And what's that famous thing they all eat there, parmy?

Parmy, yeah. That's what Cheryl talks about, isn't I? It's like chicken with cheese on the top. Yes. And it's very slimming. It is, yeah. Well, I mean, I'm not as a show about. I'm just, I've grown up loving northern stodge.

Mints and dumplings. Have you heard of that delicacy? Yeah, I've heard about it. Can you get it anywhere very good in London? No, very rare. Is it? I don't think anywhere does it. Do you make your dumplings with Sueet?

Sue it, yeah. Do it properly. Have you tried to make it yourself? Yeah, I can make a mince and dumplings. And does Jordan like that? Well, he's, um, he doesn't eat red meat. meat. So I try doing a veggie one, but it's just not a same. With corn, it's not going to do the same. Sorry. No, it's got to be the proper lamb or beef

mints. Yeah. I bought some mints by richmond's. You know who make the sausages. Yeah. And it looks exactly like beef mints the way of they've done it. What is it? Pork mints. No, it's soy mints. Oh. Oh. It looks exactly like, you have a look. I would try richmond because I've tried the vegan sausages. And are they good? They're all right actually. Yeah. The veggie sausages. But I love a richmond sauce. It's so annoying being with the vegans. It's so annoying being with a vegetarian if you're not. As a northern hour, we love like red meat and, you know, lamb and mince and, you know, like minced pies and steak bakes from Greggs.

Steak bakes. We love it all. The stodgy, the better. So, yeah, but also being part Arab as well. I grew up having a lot of curries. Yes. So my mom, my mom's half Yemeni and quarter Egyptian. How excited.

So then I want to know what was on the dining table. So, well, my grander used to cook a lot for me And he'd make, it is literally just called Yemeni chicken soup Which is like chicken on the bone And it's quite a watery texture A broth Yeah, kind of brothy And it's just goodness, lots of spices

What's it's flavoured with? Lots of flavour, cardamine, what else is in there, tumouric Cummin? Cuman? Cuman? Cinnamon? No. All the Arab spices Rasmu. Or something like that or sumac or something.

And then you make with it Arab bread, which is like so easy to make. It's literally just butter, flour and... I'd love to try that. Was it like a flat bread? Yeah, very flat, very buttery. Can you make that? I can make that, yeah.

Jay, will you give us your recipes for this? I absolutely will. Because I absolutely would love to make that. Um, uh, no. You did bake off, didn't you? I did bake off. How did you do? I actually won it.

Oh! But it was like best of a bad bunch. I really looked out that week because I went into it thinking you're going to be terrible. I love to bake but I'm not that good at it but I just really enjoy it. What was your showstopper that really stopped the show?

I did a gingerbread and meringue Little Mixed concert. Oh! Yeah, it was really cute. But on the day I'd prepared and prepared and I thought, it's okay, I can do this. But I can see why when people get in the tent They have like meltdowns because it is quite stressful.

Is it hot in there? It's hot. Why is it so hot? You're just in a little bacon oven. Like, like it's a fucking oven. And they've got loads of ovens going. And they do it in the summer. Always in the summer, yeah.

I suppose it adds to the drama, doesn't it? What was poor Hollywood really like? I fancy him. Me too. What is it? It's the eyes. It's the eyes. He's so gorgeous and you know he's a badden.

Yeah. But the eyes are gorgeous. I think he loves. that he's the one that walks around and watches you and puts you on edge. Is he quite fit? I mean, when he walks, is, is he good looking? Yeah, yeah, he is. He was a bit shorter in real life. Oh, it's so

disappointing, isn't it? They're always short, aren't they? He was definitely shorter than I thought he was going to be. But he was lovely. But yeah, it puts you on edge a bit because you're trying, you're already flapping because you know if you're cooking for someone, well, you don't know exactly what I'd say. You want to impress them, don't you? Yeah, you do. But when you've got them peering over you every two

seconds as you're doing it and then asking your questions as you're cooking. And you're like, I'm sifting. I'm like, I'm measuring. And he was talking about, don't we swear all the time? Oh dear, that's all right then. And did he talk about your soggy bottoms and things like that? Yeah, because like we, I think for the, it's not the technical,

the one way you can't see it until they reveal it to you. Oh, yeah. It was a cherry lattice pie. Oh my God. But luckily for me, in lockdown, my mom had literally just taught us all over FaceTime how to make a pie. So I looked out there as well. It was like, all the stars aligned really did.

And I was like, oh, I know, just. how I made a pie, not a cherry one, but... So you had your mum cooking a lot? Yes, my mum loves to cook. And so she was kind of doing lattice pies. Yeah, she was... Any sort of pie. Any pie?

You know, corned beef pie. Oh, right. Mint's pie. But that's mince meat pie? Yeah, yeah. Not a Christy one. It's literally like minced meat with gravy and onions. That sounds lovely.

Anything with gravy on is a winner for me. So were you a fussy kid? I mean, Jordan seems to think, I'm quite fuzzy, my boyfriend, because I think I grew up just liking what I like. I feel like my mom only made us what she liked as well. So it was, you know, Sunday roast, mince and dumplings, you know, pies, fish and chips. Very, like, standard, you know, British cuisine, I suppose. And then on the other hand, it would be, like, curries and Arab food.

Where's your dad from? So my dad's from England. Yeah, he's white British. Probably a bit of Irish. And where did they meet? So they actually met via my uncle who was in the army and was friends with my dad and introduced my mom to my dad

and that's how that kind of came about, yeah. But there's quite a big Yemeni community in my hometown because we live right on the port of time. So my grander was in the merchant navy as a fireman, came over to the UK and met my nana who was Egyptian. Oh, how lovely. Yeah, but I think my nana died when my mum was really young, so he remarried. But, yeah, so that's kind of how...

So when you marry, Jordan, and you heard it here first, are you going to have a bit of an Egyptian theme to the wedding? Maybe, I don't know. Are you going to come in on a throne, like Cleopatra? Maybe I should. I mean, I love being as extra as possible. Yeah, I think the Cleopatra look would be... The eyes are already there.

But you're obsessed with Diana Ross. Yes, she's my idol. Absolutely. How did that happen? So, I genuinely believe growing up that my mum was dying her off because she looked the spit of her. Really? Your mum has big hair? Yeah, she had the big hair

and she's got big, doy eyes and she let me believe that she was dying her ass. And every time she'd like go to the bingo with her friend, she'd be like, I'm going to do a concert and I'd be obsessed. My God, I love that. So I want it to be just like her. I know, I know, and this went on for a while.

Did you feel let down when you found out she wasn't dying? Yeah, a little bit. And you had the most amazing fancy dress birthday party. Yes, I dressed up as that. Mom, you need to see this picture. It was pretty iconic. How old were you? Oh, it was a couple of years ago.

Oh, it was two years ago. I did all growing up, like, I'd go to the school disco and all the cool kids would be like, Hult and X and Rar Rost Skirts, and I'd turn up and like a chiff on Diana Roscown. I love this. Yeah, so extra. So did your mum know you were going to be a star from a young age? I think so.

She definitely believed in me a lot. Did you go to ballet and stage school? Yes, did ballet, yes. Did ballet and tap. So what grade did you get to? Well, I remember there was a conversation about doing an audition for Royal Ballet because I was really ditty. Royal Ballet. I mean, it never happened.

I didn't have me Billy Elliott moment. This is very similar to Cheryl. Yeah, no, I loved it and I think I just didn't love it enough though to do it properly because I got to the point where everyone started, you know, when you go on points and it's so damaging for your feet. you only want to do it really if you want to be a ballerina and you know mess your feet up like that because I had friends that had like ingrown toenails and you know it was a hot mess and I just thought at that point

I set me mom oh no I can't be bothered so when you when you went for that audition you'd obviously watch x-factor yes I didn't so I had auditioned for the first time when I was 15 and I got through to boot camp and they made me do that awkward thing where like all the camera crew came at me school and I had to stand on stage assembly and be like I've got the ex-veter and then I had to come back a few weeks later I'd be like oh I didn't get through and it was like mortifying oh babe I know they really hyped it up but then you did get through yes and I auditioned again yeah got through it why did you decide to audition again because you just wanted it I just thought and you didn't know anybody in the industry

no like you know I'm from a very small working class northern town and I'd write songs and I knew I wanted to be singing and I'd send in tapes to you know London and the hopes I'd get scouted or whatever. So for someone like me and me and my family, I could never have afforded to move to London. So that's why I really did appreciate Shores like the expert back then because they gave, you know, people like me an opportunity to, you know, try and make it. So, yeah, I went three times and then third time got put in the group.

Third time, lucky baby. Yeah. So life on the road. Yes. Are you missing it? Yes, massively. How do you do? I mean, I believe, like, you are. Mega pop star. Girl group pop star. I believe that, you know, you're doing arenas. Like,

I want to know what food is on your rider, what you're demanding. I mean, I don't believe that you demand anything, Jade. You're too polite. But I need to know, because I mean, mine's an academy tour and I'm going to have a lovely time. But I just need some tips of something that's excellent on your rider. I mean, we're not that divorish, to be honest. It's like... Do you have anything that you can't live without? I always have popcorn on the road. Oh, that's nice. I like popcorn as a snack. Yep, that's a good idea. But it has... Does you make gassy, though, no? Yeah, and there has been a few times where, like,

there'll be like popcorn in my teeth when I'm performing and I really feel it. It's one of the... Oh, baby, and it's a bugger to get out. But it's like a good, like, snacker thing. But I always have Yorkshire tea. I love Yorkshirety. That's the only one I have... Are you an airplane, either?

We love aeroplane food. Do you know what? I'm the one that gets... Because obviously we allow a business, the budget allows it with the labour and stuff. I always ask for the economy menu. You're kidding. Why, Jane? You're just doing bog standard chicken curry.

That's all I want. I don't want this posh chewy beef off the aeroplane. Oh, I love it. Sometimes they can't make, like, posh food nice on an aeroplane. Does that make sense? So what is the posh food that you've been introduced to that actually quite like? That I like. Yeah.

But you're like, oh, I kind of like this life. I don't know. You're a sushi girl? No, I don't like. sushi. I don't blame you. I was a bit scarred. Give me a dumpling. A dumpling any day of the week. We went to Japan once and

we had a team. I presume you're quite big in Japan. You're big everywhere. Yeah, we do quite well in Japan and Japan's like my favourite place in the world. Why? It's just like a different world and they don't care that you're British. It's like you've learned our language or you get lost in Japan. And are the, are the, is your audience

older there or younger? A bit of everything actually. We did a festival once. And I remember seeing in the crowd, a lot of, like, grown men in little mixed t-shirts. And this was back in the early days. Oh, my God. Was this in Japan? Yeah. Yeah. How did you feel about that?

Were you like, finally the men? Yeah, mate, I don't know. I mean, like, the majority of my personal male fans are usually like LGBT, you know, and we love that. Yeah. But in Japan, it was different, I think. I don't know. They just love pop culture, though. They love girl bands.

They love boy bands. But, yeah, there was one time I went and they made us do this live TV. thing and in their culture it's very rude to not accept food like you have to eat it and we went to a fish market and it absolutely fucking stunk and I'm very bad with bad smells like a wretchary isn't it was in Tokyo the famous fish market if you had up the floor in the morning or something

and then we sat down and this is live TV they presented us with like raw sushi but it was like raw chicken sushi as well oh my god you're getting some but it's rude not to as I had to eat it and pretend I loved it on live TV and then go through it up Oh, and I see, it's giving us warm your mouth, thinking about it. Oh, yeah, so maybe that's scarred us a bit, but...

What's your favourite drink? As in alcohol? Yeah. I keep her classy and have a Malibu, do you know? And do you like it, Matt. With Malibu with... With pineapple? Pineapple, yeah, or like orange juice.

I do love... We should have got some in. I know, but it's like, I feel sometimes I'm embarrassed asking for it, because it is a very, like, 14-year-old drink, isn't it? It's definitely kind of a holiday romance drink. Is that what I mean? I think that's why I like it. It reminds us of being on holiday.

Yeah. I was drinking lots. I'd just been to meet my other daughter in the Bahamas. Only because I couldn't get into America. I didn't need another holiday. My tiny violin is. Oh, that's such a shishy. So we went and it was all cocktails.

It was Bahama Mama, yellow birds with galley. Yeah. Yeah. I like a Mai Tai, pardon them. Boy, yummy. My tie and a daquery. I love a daquiry. I want to know how this relationship, like this beautiful relationship between

you and the LGBTQ community happen because it is a thriving, beautiful, real relationship like particularly you have. How did, when did you notice that this was a romance? I feel like it's always been a part of my life, like being an ally, but it's not until like the past few years that I've understood what it means to being an ally and how to do that properly.

But I suppose if I was like going right to the root of it, I think even from my first love was drag culture before the sort of LGBT scene and at a very young age I didn't really obviously understand what that was I would just see these divas like Diana Ross or share and be obsessed with them

Have you ever been to funny girls in Blackpool? No I haven't but I know I'd love it I know I'd love it It's absolutely it's like being in Paris Yeah obsessed I mean ish A little a sprinkle of Blackpool But we love a bit of Blackpool

But you know Once a year, me, my family would always go to Benaddorm and we'd go and see all the drag acts and they'd always... Yeah. And they'd always emulate, you know, the big queens and I'd watch it and be fascinated. Yeah, there'd be loads of Diana Ross drag queens,

obviously, shame, they'd do the spice girls, and I'd just watch it and all and be like, who are these amazing, like, adult cartoons? And I'd love the big hair and I'd try and copy it and the makeup. So that was kind of like my first love of drag culture. and then I always found I'd come home

like my dad and you know all these like cis hetero men around me would love it and then we'd get back home and it was like suddenly not celebrated anymore it was very bizarre so I would always associate Benadorn with this magical land where like anyone was accepted and then you'd come back home and it'd be like oh no we're not into that you know what I mean so and then I'd get into musical theatre

and I had a lot of LGBT friends you know during my teenage years a lot of gay friends who couldn't come out or I would have to be their beard or they'd have to move out of South Shields to feel like they could live somewhere. Do you think it's hard at North? It's really hard. I think it's that like, yeah,

a bit more small-minded, a bit of an old-fashioned mentality. And I don't think it's necessarily that for a lot of people, they are willing to listen, but they just don't understand it because it's like passed through generations, isn't it? So if your granddad is like, you know,

being brought up to be homophobic, then of course, their son is going to then, you know, listen to that until they're gay yeah exactly and that toxic masculinity just seeps through each generation until somebody tries to you know change it um so yeah it was it was very like that growing up and so from a very young age i sort of understood that it was wrong and i didn't agree with it but i didn't know how to express i suppose that i didn't agree with it and then um moved to london you're so articulate am i explain it yeah oh thank you really you explain it beautifully oh that's lovely to hear actually. Sometimes I worry about

my being articulate, being abroad Georgie. It's so articulate. But no, also you feel that such a level of responsibility as an ally. Yeah, yeah. And I think I moved to London and of course it was my gay friends that took me in and took me out to all the gay bars and, you know, I

was what I would consider like a basic bitch ally at that point. Basic bitch. So, you know, very much loved the scene, loved my gay friends, would turn up to every event, but wasn't really an active ally, so it was speak. So yeah, that kind of went on for a bit. And then as the band grew, our LGBT audience grew. And then I think it just got to a point with me where I thought, we're very

much benefiting from this audience and not giving much back in return. And so that's kind of when I decided I wanted to be a better ally. I'd get messages from fans, you know, who were in the closet or were struggling or were from a country where, you know, countries where it's illegal and so I was like oh wow like I've actually got a platform here and I could really be doing more about that so would you perform in Russia I would initially say no

but then for instance we got a gig in Dubai one time and in my mind it was like I either don't go or I go and make a statement and give my fee to a charity and you know so I think it's case by case I've got no intention of going to somewhere

like Russia anytime soon because I obviously don't believe in, you know, what's going on there. But at the same time, those places, more than anyone else, kind of need people to turn up and be an ally and, you know, fly that flag for them so they don't feel so alone. And I think as an Arab woman as well, it's very important for me with my Middle East fans to show them that they can have someone, you know, to look up to and realise they're not alone in it sort of thing. So, yeah, I guess it depends. But, yeah, I reached out with Stonewall initially and asked to, like, meet with them. and like sort of teach me how to be a better ally and just learn more about it and the history

behind, you know, LGBT rights and all that stuff. Amazing. And it's just been like a gradual thing and now, yeah, I feel like I have sort of organically cemented myself in that world and, yeah, I feel like there's obviously still a lot more I probably could be doing.

But I'm doing my best and that's all that matters, I think. You are doing your best. Yeah. And you explain it beautifully. But back to food. Obviously. I mean, I'm getting an inkling that you like, like, you know, quite scodgy. How often do you go to Greggs, honestly, Jard?

Honestly, I live in Canary Wharf and they're just about an open one. Oh my God. I love that you're not interested. Because nobody else in Canary Wharf is asking for a great. Forget, you know what I mean. Forget all the batch. I'm shocked. I'm shocked.

I absolutely understand that because they're sandwiches. they're actually good aren't they're tuna crunch their tuna crunch is the best I think I've stopped it why I don't know out on bloom of bread it's very good

it's gorgeous it's very good sweetness to the tuna and I appreciated that and they're just lovely I love that they're quite old school that you turn up and they've still got the hats on and stuff

yeah you know every time you go there it's like oh can I have a fresh one they give a five minutes sausage roll that is that long fucking Ed Shear and at his wedding had Greg sausage rolls Piles up in a like

in a fucking pyramid I feel like I would do that that and Toby Collins Carverie is a rostoeuvres. Oh my Toby Carverie? Yeah, all the gravy. I'm going to make a good gravy tonight. Now, I just need to understand Toby Carverie because I...

They don't have them in London, I don't think. I've seen... I think I've been to one in Isle of Wight. I love them. Same. You eat as much as you want. Yeah, I do like that. But you can keep going back. You know that we love that.

But is Toby Carverie a chain or is it a style? It's a chain. No, it's a chain, darling. Okay. But I don't think many do that. buffet style do they used to be one on the corner in Dulwich the grove was a carvery yeah yeah I love a carvary same well I guess we kind of got our fix with the BHS Christmas

dins when we go and serve on we love that I used to love British home stores Christmas but I'm so sorry they closed down there canteen you go there for your Christmas dinner you have a little chippilata with your stuffing I loved it so I'm getting you on Bake Off She likes normal food, darling. Normal food.

So let's go into your last supper. You're about to go to a desert island forever. And you're having your last meal. No, darling, six months. No, I feel like we need to make the stakes a bit higher a year. Start a main pud drink. Starter would have to probably be a soup. Really?

Not many people say that. Danielle Heim said it. and I poo-poohed her and then I realised that yours is my chicken soup so I don't... Like if you make a good soup like anyone can make a soup

it's quite easy as me but you know when you get an elite one and you get a gorgeous bread with it a dip in with her low-pa Are you going like Yemeni like are you going that soup? Yeah like a Yemeni chicken soup With the flat bread

With the flat bread Bittery as hell dipped in I need to make this Is it lemony? No It's just Yemeni It's just Yemeni

It's just Yemeni It's Yemeni it's Yemeni Okay, so that's your starter Yeah With bits of chicken in it Yeah It's almost like stewy Falling off the bone

Like super, love it Yeah, stewed I'm really interested So I'm going to Google Doing a soup like that Is it? Yeah Will you send us a recipe?

I will actually Do you know what When my grandad died We all like We're looking for a recipe And we couldn't find one anyway Because he wouldn't tell her And I thought you've

Tuck that in your grave How day And it was only like two years ago We finally found the recipe online And it's a decent one And what's it called? And I cried when I had it. Because, you know, when a taste takes you back, I'd not had it for years.

What's it called Yemeni? It's literally just called Yemeni chicken soup. And the bread's called hubs. Hubs. Yeah. Arab bread. And yeah, it was like, I took us back to being a little girl. It was amazing.

I think it's amazing when food does that actually. You know, I can remind you the beautiful members. Ask Jessie. Oh, yeah. Food is her most important thing. My bag bowls in every European country. Exactly. Okay, so Maine.

Maine is probably a Sunday roast And by your mother Yeah Because nobody makes it like your mum Yeah Don't you think I hope so Yeah

I mean I think yeah I think my husband prefers his mother's Like mams just make the best food I feel like when When you give birth You're given like the superpower of like Best cook Best shoulder to cry on

I mean My kids would disagree with you Because they've never fucking eat my food At the moment Do they not? It's a lot You eat mine? Yeah, they eat mums, though.

But I think there's like an emotional connection between mothers and food because, like, I always remember no matter what would happen if I'd come in crying from school, my mom would be like, do you want mince and dumplings? And that would be like, oh, that sounds like my kind of woman. Do you know what I mean? Like, they just know what to make you. She sold things through food? Yes.

And it's very much like, you know, when you walk in a northern house, it's like if you don't get off at a cup of tea, then that's quite rude. So anything can be solved with a cup of tea. Yeah. Is your mum a bit like my mum was That if you open the fridge door There's enough to feed at least 10 people For two days

During COVID I feel like my mum getting She thought she was like going to be housing South Shields to feed them for the unforeseeable And a bit like that And my brother walks in the house And he always goes in the freezer And picks out what he wants and leaves with it It's very that

We've actually got Arab hubs That my grander made in my mum's freezer That were just there forever Oh, stop. Yeah. I mean, ma'am's like, if anyone does touch them and thinks it's like rubbish.

God, the trees are better not bloody breakdown. Do you know what I mean? So listen, you like Greg's and you like, obviously like a sandwich. I love a sandwich. What's the best feeling? Of a sandwich? Yeah. This is a bit we heard.

Go on. So the first bit's normal. Tuna and salad cream of sweet corn. Yeah. With cheese and onion crisps. Inside. Inside. Yeah.

It's honestly stunning. It's like a tuna melt. It's stunning. White bread or brown bread? White bread. White bread. That is an elite crisp sandwich. An elite crisp sandwich.

I like, maybe we should make a cookbook of all the elite sandwiches. But Jade's, Jay's coining elite crisp. Okay, I like it. And what would... We haven't got, beyond, we've got soup. So what's your main... You know, with all the trimmings. And then you put...

Lamb and gumming. You have them together. Yeah. Oh, wow, she really does. I double dinner. Oh, I should have, maybe I should have done lamb tonight. But I love chicken as well, by the way. Do you?

Yeah, yeah. But I would, yeah. But if you're treating yourself. Friday night, yeah, lamb is like, yeah. Lam's like what you get at your Christmas dinner is. Yeah. It's a posh occasion. Okay, so, you big pud fan?

Yes. What is your hood? Wow. Apple crumbling custard. Yeah. See, I should have done. Like a school dinner pudding for me. So, me, I've tried something tonight.

I've never made it before, Panacotta. I've never made it before. But we're a bit worried. It hasn't got enough wobble. What do you mean we're a bit worried? Well, we both are. Yeah. You are and I are.

No, I think I'd put slightly... So, I've just been in Greece. So we had... Before she was in Bahamas, she was in Greece. Right. I'm setting a theme here. Excuse me, I should be retired. She likes a holly.

What's that woman called Shirley Temple? It's given that. So I have this Greek yogurt panacotta. So it's a mixture of cream and Greek yogurt. I do love that. It was so delicious. delicious. So I've made panacotta, Greek yogurt panacotta, with spice cherries. Oh, darling. So, but I don't know how well the panacotta's... But it still doesn't taste creamy, isn't it? It will taste

nice. It'll still be lovely, I'm sure. How do you get them out, though, of the mould? I did put the vegetable oil around the thing. I'm sure I have to maybe milk. I'm sure they'll be, they'll be great. They'll be great. Have you ever had a northern corn flake tart? Yes, with treacle. Oh, you've had it with jam. I've had it. I've had it. I've had it. I've had it. I've I've had it with treacle. So the corn flakes are in treacle. A trichel, you put the cornflates on the top. Delicious.

And a drink of choice. Is it going to be Malibu? Yeah, probably a Malibu and just a normal cup of tea, actually. If I was, if it was my last meal. Nobody said a cup of tea. Yeah, if it's my last one, I want to go out with the best cup of tea I've ever had. Do you have sugar? No.

Oat milk as well now. I've crossed over because Jordan's super healthy. And gradually he's trying to make me healthier. Yeah. So, okay, how is that, how was that when you, you live together, right? Kind of. Yeah, pretty much. But, like, how does it work? Like, when you're trying to really impress Jordan with a meal, yeah. What would impress Jordan? He loves, he likes healthy food. So I can make him a good, like, roast chicken mormon with nice herbs.

But does he eat chicken? Yeah, he'll eat chicken. He doesn't like chickens, he doesn't mind. But the reason why he doesn't have red meat is because he likes cows and pigs. Oh, he doesn't like, oh, he doesn't like, oh. Okay, got it. Yeah, I don't ask. I've had this conversation as well. But yeah, chicken is fine. Fine.

Yeah. So you do a chicken, okay, fine. And is he a good cook? Yeah, he's quite good. I think he's like, Jordan's a tighter person where he can like throw something together and it's great. Rassel it up. Do you know what I mean?

He's one of them. But where's his family? Are they in London? Yeah, so he's... Was he Brighton? Did I make that out? He lived in Brighton for a bit, yeah. So he was born in London.

I think he lived in Brighton through all his teenage years. And that's how he ended up with being friends with Harley and Rizzle kicks and all that. And then now he lives in Margate. Oh, wow. Wow. Very trendy. Yeah. Do you know what he bought that house the years ago before it was cool as well?

Do you go down there? Do you like Margate? I do. It reminds me of home, actually, because it's a little seaside town. Yeah, it's really beautiful, actually. And it's nice for me to have best of both worlds, you know. So I work in London. I've got a flat in London.

But it's nice to escape. to Margie. There's good food in Margate, too. Yeah, it's definitely getting a bit bougier as well. They do really good fish and chips. Oh, do they? I love how I'll put boogie and fish and chips together.

Yeah, no, but no, but, like, I mean, the seaside town should do a good fish and chips. But they've got, you know, really nice, trendy, like, coffee shops now that do, like, you know, sourdough bread everywhere. Oh, sourdough bread.

Do you know, every time you blink, I see a little sparkle. Do you? Yeah, it's lights and her sparkles are there. It's probably a bit of glitter left from the sheet. Yeah, I think I want glitter. For your birthday. You can never go wrong with glitter.

No. But be warned, you'll never ask you a bit. Which is your best Diana Ross song of everything? Which would you put, when you're dressed up, which would you do your karaoke too? I mean, I love chain reaction. Oh, it's not bad. Yeah. Upside downs up there for me as well.

And then my... I'm coming out, no? Oh, surely. Yeah. Yeah. But mine and my mom's song is when you tell me that you love me, the ballad. When you tell me that you love me. Yeah.

But you don't do little mix. Do you do it, hon, do you sing it together? When I was little, we used to sing it to each other. Oh, stop! Can your mum sing? No, not really. Was that not a giveaway with the old Diana Ross's it? Not at that age, because she'd just say she was going out to sing, so I love your mom.

I didn't put two and two together. Little Mixed concerts, she's not done, reach out and touch someone was. And then everyone, I went to a concert and we all had to do it. And I hate, I actually, reach out and touch some. And that's probably the cheesiest one, to be fair. She didn't want to talk. touch the stranger. I'm starving and I'm feeling a bit pissed, ma'am. Sorry, darling, it's coming.

God. You two actually, I've not yet much to do. No, God. But it's almost ready. This will sort you out. Don't worry. Yeah, absolutely. Don't worry. We'll all be shloffing and watching, like, you know, telly. I'm just going to make the gravy. Oh, okay. And I'm going to put the things over here in the microwave.

And then they're ready. Is your mum always this glamorous? Yes. Oh, God. I love it. Yes. Yes, she, I mean, have you got the red lip on? ish it's come off because I'm drinking you need to reapply

no she's always always glamorous and I did not learn that because I'm lazy like my hair still wet so you know washed it like

I know but for me I'm very all and offing it's either very very natural or it's super glam drag bean vibes and that's what I like Jake, how many potatoes, darling? Oh, how long is a piece of string?

Two, three. Three, please. Yes, girl. I love a potato or. There's a great heat for you, my love. Oh, this looks absolutely stunning. I'm thrilled. This is so lovely.

Is it? Yeah. Just what I needed after a long deal were. So where would be your first point of call, apart from Greg's? When you get to South Shields, where do you go? Apart from your mother's house, what would be the first point of call for food? Is there one place that you absolutely adore? So there's a famous road in South Shields called Ocean Road.

Sounds fabulous. It sounds very exotic. It sounds like... LA. Malibu? It's got like, it's a road basically full of curry houses. Okay. And they're usually open, like, through the night, so you can have a night out and then go and have a curry after.

Would you do that? Absolutely. I mean, your belly won't thank you the next day, but... What's your best curry? Again, plain Jane. Just chicken... It's like a chicken chicken masala situation, you know what I mean? Which non do you go for?

Peshawari? Not even that, hon. Butter? Yeah. Or a parata. Okay. But I also... There's a place in South Shield's called Coleman's Fish and Chips.

It's like voted the country's best fish and chips. Really? It's the best. And that's, I'll always go there. Codden chips, obviously. No, but you wouldn't... There's a theme here. No, some.

Sam Smith is a battered sausage. Actually, Sam Smith is the whole fucking menu. I mean, they also do, like, mushy pea fritter, so it's basically, like, battered mushy peat. That sounds amazing. Yeah, it's so good. This sounds great. Yeah, phenomenal.

And that's, like, one of their things that they do that are quite famous for. Where do you eat in Canary Wolf? They've actually got a lovely Indian place called Chai Key. Oh, I don't know it. It's kind of like Dechum. We love Dechum, yeah. It's very similar to Dechum. What else have they got there?

They've got a rocker there. It's quite nice. I've never been to Rocker. It's lovely. Oh, they've got like push places. Yeah. Of course they do. They've got a bit of out.

They've got like shake shack and stuff as well, but they've got a lovely restaurant. I've never had a shake shack either. Is it good? Yes, it's good. I prefer in and out. Have you had in an out before? Yes, I have. It's clean, isn't it?

Yeah, it's like, obviously not great for you, but it feels fresh. Fresher than like a matty dees, isn't it? Now, you know, we've nearly asked you all the food questions that we asked. But I do need to know what your lunchbox was when you were little. What was on the front? Were you a school dinner? What was me, I probably groovy chick as a box. What's groovy?

Remember, she wore like bell button. She like, had, she looks, was blonde. How do you know this, mum? Yeah. I don't know. And she had, like, bell box. Googling it. You'll know when you say her.

She was an absolute pun. Who is she? They did like a whole like birthday cards with her on and loads of things. I had a groovy chick larva lamb. Remember her? Yeah. I do. You are younger than me, Jade.

So that is really sharing that. So yeah, I had a groovy chick lunch box. And then inside it there would usually be a cheese string. I've tried them all my kids and they like it. It's more because it's fun, you peel the bits and it's like you make a little wig. Okay, so you have your cheese string and then what would be your... Oh yeah, would you have the sandwich filling of the tuna mayo and cheese and onion? I hadn't discovered that beautiful recipe until later age.

So it would be like ham or something very basic, you know, tuna. Now, I want to talk to you about songwriting because I know that you and Leanne were kind of the... I remember when I was doing my own sessions, it would be like I'd be working with people that were working with you. Camille, who we love. Love Camille. Yeah. Shun. Love Shun.

Brilliant. I love her. But you and Leanne became kind of the main little mix of writers. Yeah. Was that because you were writing, you were saying it. You were writing songs when you were little, aren't you? Yeah, we've always written. I think Leah has as well.

Just enjoy that process. Yeah. But you were working with really brilliant women. Mm-hmm. Before lots of people were working with women. Always very important for us. I think as always, you know, from the very beginning, that was our message. You know, we looked up with the spice girls,

and we felt like it'd been a minute since there was another girl band for, like, young girls to look up to him. So we embodied that in every aspect of our career, with anyone creative. You know, we worked with Camille in the very beginning before she, like, really took off. Yeah. were with us. We were all pretty girls together actually which went to Britney Spears.

And that was like our first cut with another artist. Amazing. Not a bad one. Would you like to write for more artists? Love to, yeah. I love it. I've got a few cuts coming out soon

which is like really exciting because I think as a girl band member it took a long time for people to like take me seriously as a songwriter. I think people just assume that you get given songs so it took a long time

to get a publishing deal. What? Yeah. Me and Leigh only, got a publishing deal like three years ago and like the 10 years have been, yeah. So like which songs were you like presenting when you went to these publishing meetings?

I mean, you would have had like... Every single, basically. Besides like shout out on black magic has been written by us. I do love black magic. Same. Well, Camille's pretty much saved our career with black magic. We thought we were going to get dropped.

Really? So it was the third album. We wrote a whole album and then we decided it as scrap it because it wasn't good enough. The label didn't think it was good enough. Ivan it was just like it was like third album problems you know the second album had done good

but we wanted to change it up which ones were on the second album so that was the salute era so it's like salute no you're not a shout out to my ex no that was later wasn't it because that was with Camille wasn't it yeah so it was move on there what else was the salute album little me

um we did the charity single that year the word up cover and so going at the third album we felt a lot of pressure And I feel like the label put a lot of pressure on us as well And then they've got the point when there's like rumours going around That we're going to get dropped And we were like shitting ourselves

But they hadn't said that you were getting dropped They hadn't officially said it But there was rumours? Yeah Oh Jesus Which is even worse isn't it? The idea that you think people are... I know I mean, you know I mean, you know

I suppose it's quite hard isn't it for those ex-for-ar artists So you know two albums in already was quite lucky for us I mean babe, babe, not lucky No you are a great, great group. No, we are, but it's like, it's just, it's quite a hard. Oh, no one, if there is any. Don't worry if there is not.

Sorry, I am the slowest eater in the world. No, Jess is the fastest. I'm going to have seconds. Love it. If there's some. Carry on speaking. Michelle. Yes, sir.

And so we sat in a meeting, it was kind of like, you know, it was very important meeting. We were thinking, oh God, this is it. And then he said, Camille's just sent in his song. and we think it's going to be the game changer and it was Black Magic and that was that. Did you love it? I didn't at first.

Did it feel too cute? Well, we'd just done a kind of more R&B album and then Black Magic was like the popiest we've ever been. Yeah, yeah. Which I didn't necessarily mind because I'd do genuinely love pop music but I didn't get it at first. It felt a bit cheesy for me.

No, I mean, I fucking love it. But now, no, now I absolutely love it. And the more I listened to it, the more I fell in love with it. And then I was like, okay, I get it. And actually, to be fair, to cycle at the time, they put a lot of money into it. They had so much faith. We flew us out of the US.

We did a big budget video. And so it was like, oh, yeah. Thank you. So, yeah, it really felt like it was taken off again. And yeah, it was all thanks to Camille. That was the first time we took a song that wasn't written by us as well. And I think I was a bit proud in that moment too. And I had to put my pride aside and I'd be like, no, this is a hit.

But that took to album three for you to take a song. From someone else for a single, yeah. And people just don't realize that. I didn't realize that. Wow. Well, I mean, it's just, it's not what people, I think people have... They definitely don't want...

Assumptions of... And I get it, you know. Because I suppose history does sort of... But then saying that, people thought about the Spice Girls and actually they did write a lot of them easy. Did they? Yeah. I need to ask you, Jade,

is there one particular scent? or smell. You were talking about nostalgia and crying over your, you know, eating that Yemeni chicken soup. But no, like, is there any other kind of smell that can just take you somewhere so vividly? Sorry, sorry, that was a burke. Sorry, that was a burke. It's only a podcast with prose here, darling. All right, sorry. But is there a smell or a taste that just kind of can take you back somewhere? Oh, um... Do you have Dixons here? What?

Savaloy shop. No. No, I have... So up north, there's a shop called Dixins. It's kind of similar to Greg's, actually. Do you know what a Savaloy is? Yes. Like a Savaloy sausage?

Yes, I do. So you have like a Savaloy dip, and it comes with peas pudding. Oh, nice. I didn't know about that. Right. It's quite famous up north. But I actually can't remember the last time I had one and probably used. and years ago, but that smell of that shop always reminds me with granddad again, because bless him, as you can probably tell, I was very close to my granddad.

He passed away when I was like 13, and yeah, I feel like it was funny with me, grandma because he was very devout Muslim, but he would do anything to please us, and I was obsessed with Savaloy dips. Which I made of poor. Which I made of pop. Shit. So he would take us to the, after school, he would take us to the, after school, he would to Dixon's for a Savloid dip when he'd wait outside the shop

and all these Muslim friends were all past and be like, how dare you? And he's like, anything to please his granddaughter. And so that smell always reminds me of that. So maybe Savloids, and I think, do you know what I do really miss is like the smell of like a bakery, but like a family bakery and not one in a supermarket because they're a dying breed, aren't there?

I've got the best family bakery. You've got hers? You've got done. Oh, okay. You mustn't have one really in Canary Wharf doesn't have one. No, and it's like the smell of fresh bread. Yeah. Well, we have one last question to ask you.

And then I'm going to make desserts. Before we delve into dessert. Yeah. Do you have good table manners shared? I think so. I don't know all the rules. Like, I'm not good with, there's rules about your knives and forks and that isn't there. But I was never taught that.

But I think I do have nice manners. I think you do. I see, please and thank you. Did your mum drill this into you? Yeah, and I usually do wait before everyone sat before I eat, unless I'm given the blessing to eat. I mean, I ordered you. You did?

Yeah, I did. I was forced to eat. You were forced to eat. And what is your worst table manner in somebody else? People eating with the mouth open, like chomp. God, I think I might have done that. No, you didn't. I would clock it, because it's a thing that I really despise

and I would clock it straight away. Yeah. I can't. But I usually, lately, and I think it's an age thing, I have things dropped down my phone. My mum, it's been for the last, like, 20 years now. Okay, fine. It's a big bosom thing. My bosom doesn't connect with my mouth to make the stuff drop out.

For me, I'm very flat chested. So maybe if that happens to me, you don't see it because it drops right down. Yeah. Do you end up with it on your lap? Yeah. Okay, so. Lack of tits. Yeah.

Okay. So mine ends up here. Penicillin's on a dining board. What? Is that what you call it? I've never heard that one. Aspirins on an ironing board. I've honestly never heard that phrase and it's phenomenal. You're welcome, yeah.

Aspirins on an lining board, yeah. All the boys at her school used to call her that. Really? No, I'm fucking Jack. He used to get the whole coach to sing, ah, flat chest. No, I used to get bullied for me flat chest. I fucking love it. It's chic. Oh my God, I love it now.

But when I first joined the band, I was convinced I was getting a boob job. Really? Yeah, because I just wanted to feel more. like womanly which is so ridiculous and now I love my fashion tits yeah they're fashion tits but it's good enough for Kate Mars do you know what I mean exactly I mean Kate still has

bigger boobs than me but fuck it Diana Ross didn't have big boobs didn't she no she was flat not when she's in the Supremes I don't know she was kind of a very thin neck here was very thin really how did you know this darling because she was my era wasn't she

darling she like the Supremes I do They're not Yeah Let's talk about Dream Girls Of all the Tamla Motowns They're not my favourite But I love Tamla Motown

But I do love all their songs But like when you saw Dream Girls Did you think Diana you're a bit of a bitch A little bit But I mean You kind of loved a more than Yeah

I mean She could read me to Filth And I'd love it I did actually meet Dinah Ross Oh my God It was the best experience ever I went to see her with my mum in Las Vegas Oh wow

At the Wayne Theatre And then we got to meet her after And she was really lovely Did she know about this love You had for her? I think she must have been told That there was like a super fine way inside What were you wearing?

What were you wearing? I wore a lovely suit with the glittery vest I didn't want to, you know You didn't want to have to stage you? No, did I? And I didn't want to look to try hard My mom obviously had her best dress I think she had her favourite jumpsuit on

We did the cellos up And I didn't tell me ma'am That we were going to meet her as well So when we went back to stage My mom was just like, oh, this is lovely this. And then in walks, Diana Ross. My mom was just like, oh, wow. And I did that really, you'll know this when fans come to you

and they're like, try and get a picture and the phone doesn't work. I was doing all of that. And I was like, oh, look, I dressed up as you and it wasn't Lorden. I was like, oh, fuck, that is. It was just the best, it was the best experience ever. And then, like, the whole of the rest of the evening, me, my mom were literally just in shock. Like, we've just met Diana off.

Maybe you should play her in a biopic. I'd, honestly, I would die. Maybe you should do that. I would retire her after that. If I ever did do my own record, I'd have to have Diana Ross on it somehow. Or I'd love to write a song for Diana Ross. She's just done a new record, isn't it?

I know, and I try my best to get involved somehow. Oh, baby, you all did. I know. But did you get the email being like, Down is looking for songs? I didn't even get that far. I wasn't hitting seriously enough yet in the songwriting world. I don't understand this.

You've written absolute bangers. I think maybe because we do a lot of core rate. It's like, because I do genuinely just love collaborating with people. Me too. But sometimes people then see that as like, I don't know, maybe because they're weird the artist, think, oh, well, they've probably just like wrote one line and then got a cut when it's obviously not that way.

But I've got, I've written Billy Porter's new singing. Shut up. That's huge. Yeah, me and Emineke. And Invisible Men, have you worked with them before? No, but I've heard about them. Yeah, we wrote a song. That's amazing. I know, and I mean, gag at that.

Billy's supposed to be doing it, no. isn't he? Is he? So he's probably going to talk about his single. Yeah, well then we can just

thank you very much for that piece of info. Tell him that I love him. I haven't met him yet. What? I met him at a fashion thing and he was really fabulous. Yeah, he's amazing

and actually that song, which would be good to know for him actually. I don't think he knows this. So me and Uzo, Emanike, went in a session together to write for Billy. And I was like,

so tell me a bit about Billy because he's met him before. I was like, tell him about his personality so I feel like I'll write a better song if I know him. And so he was telling was all about Billy and he was like what he was doing

impersonation of when he sports him that's fine and he was like oh he was saying to me like you know we've got to let the children know and I was like that's the song and so the song is

got to let these children know what time it is and it's all about how he's like being there done that I think lyric is being there done that worn that dress so you know mama knows it best and it's very calm fabulous

did you love pose oh yes will you try a panicle Potter. Absolutely. Of course I will. I'm excited about this one. Me too. I'm going to try and get them out the mould. Do you need any help? Basically, when you go on, when you see them on a

Wobble, but I don't think mine's going to wobble. Do you want to pass your play? So maybe it'll be like a creamy Harry bow. Oh, piss off. Maybe. Maybe. That was honestly, that didn't know was gorgeous. Was it nice? Good, darling. Thank you so long. Got a little bit of a wobble. Oh, Mum, yeah.

It does. Oh, God, Jessie. It's wobbling. It looks lovely. Does it? The presentation is just. Oh. Squisite.

Nice, no. Mom, this is delicious. It's actually beautiful. Is it? Yeah. Does it taste of Greek yogurt? Yes. It is actually.

Hints of great yogurt. Light. Yes. Souriness. And I'm really getting the spice chariot. Wow. No, it is nice. It tastes yoghety.

And it's not too. Whose recipe is this? Lorraine Pascal? Yeah. I changed it slightly. How did you? Did you change it? I had to choose add some ingredients.

Why? Why? Because I wanted more yoghurt. Mum, this is great. It's nice and light, actually. Yeah. I know what your karaoke song's going to be, but just confirm. Diana Ross and the Supremes, baby love.

Did you know that? Ooh, ooh, baby love. Well, we're not a little mixed. What? What are we in? I'm loving. It does start high, doesn't it? Oh.

Baby love My baby love I need you Oh how I need you Oh my angel Okay but if you were going to do a little mix song On karaoke What would you do

And whose part would you take? Oh Wow I feel like power is a good karaoke song Because I feel like with karaoke as well You want a big sing sometimes Yeah you've got to sing that

Power Who bitch bit would you do? I mean I'd attempt Perry's but probably not very well. Harry's got the range. Leah has two, to be fair, but Lord knows I'm an auto. Are you?

Well, I'll belt if I have too, but it's an effort, you know. Are you the blender? Yeah, I love a harmony. I'm the harmony girl, and I feel like my head voice is my strong thing. I love your head voice.

Yeah, that's my thing, I think. I can belt, yeah, but I definitely, like, if I do it too much on two, I like, if I do a really high note, I'll feel like I'm going to shit myself. And on that note. I loved hearing about Jade's glamorous mum.

Me too. And all the recipes. I know. Her Lebanese heritage. Yeah, didn't she send you? Yeah, she sent your recipes. That's so sweet. Handwritten, beautifully.

And also just love that she could then take her mom to meet her icon, Diana Ross. Well, she's a lovely warm. person who I enjoyed meeting so much. And wonderfully funny too. She's sparkly, just an open book and I loved the sound of the battered mushy peas. That sounds fantastic. Thank you to Jade for coming on Tablemanors all those years back. We'll have to get you and Jordan on your lovely boyfriend who we did a brilliant live show with, I think, back in 2024.

But yeah, we'll have more of second helpings for you next week. Thank you.