Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Sharon Horgan

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

This week we have Irish comedy royalty round for dinner, the brilliant Sharon Horgan. Sharon popped to New Cross and brought her two gorgeous daughters with her. Mum made a Salmon en croute, and I made a Pannetone Bread and Butter pudding. We learned all about Sharon growing up in pubs in Hackney and Ireland, living in squats and being fed by Hare Krishna, writing and working with friend of the pod Rob Delaney on Catastrophe, filming Bad Sisters in Ireland and creating Motherland and brand new spin off Amandaland (which we’re very excited for!). Sharon is a total delight, and has co-created some of our favourite series on the telly. Bad Sisters is currently in it’s second series and is streaming on Apple TV+ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to Table Mothers, I'm Jessie Ware and I'm here with Lenny. She looks like she's about to start a fight, are you okay? Not starting a fight but I just want you to know that I rushed back from my school reunion here to make the main course. How was your school reunion? Well, I need to tell you that I didn't know this. That they showed, they had a picture of me when I was much younger. One of the girls, one of the women, or my age. Girls? And my nickname apparently at school was Sexy Lenny. Oh my god.

And their husbands who I don't even know call me sexy Lenny. This is a school reunion. Yeah. And the school lunch. And they all called you sexy. At what age did you get the name sexy Lenny at 12 or 13? I hope not. I hope it was when I was about 18. What were you doing Lenny? It was the way I looked darling. It just oozed sex appeal. X-Factor. In Manchester. Yeah. You had that. Yeah. How does that make you feel, Sexy?

I felt quite sexy. I felt quite good to be honest. After that. Anyway, I'm going to shout out to my friends who might listen now. Yeah. Because they thought I was doing a blog. A blog. People, older people always talk about blogs, not podcasts, don't they?

They're about 15 years behind. I'm going to shout out to Adrian, Philippa, Maureen, Vanessa, Ruth and Marcel. You know what? If Scott Mills hadn't just got that breakfast gig for Radio 2, I think Lenny, you could have been in for with a chance to take over Dear Zari Ball. I have to do my own shout out. We had a big birthday party at the weekend. The best party in the whole universe.

It was pretty amazing. Me and Sam had a joint 40th and 10 year wedding anniversary, which I think on reflection maybe appears quite smug, and I apologize if anyone thinks that's smug, but we decided to quite camply renew our vows, dressed almost like a poor man's sonny in Cher. Sam had hair for the first time I think in his life. He wore a wig, I wore a wig, the kids were there, it was really amazing and we had the most amazing band that we'd seen at Wilderness called

Brassique and if anybody is at festivals this year, it was their second gig and I saw them and I was completely mad about them at the festival and so I messaged them to see if they wanted to do it and they did and I'm so lucky because they were unbelievable. I walked down the aisle to a beautiful queen singing Nessun Dorma. It was fab. And also dear darling, Besley, who is my favorite DJ in the world, also brought her gorgeous, ooh la la macarons as our kind of tower of birthday cake, because I think birthday cake can be quite overrated

sometimes and the macarons are perfect. So thank you so much, Besley, but we had the best time. It was wicked. It was at Riverley Ballroom, which is the most beautiful venue. Everyone dressed up, everyone danced, and I'm a bit sad it's over. I know. Onto the podcast. We have somebody that I am quite mad about. I was obsessed with her

when Catastrophe came out. We've had her co-star from Catastrophe on a few weeks ago, Rob Delaney. It's Sharon Horgan. I approached Sharon Horgan at, I think, a Glamour Awards show and just shouted in her face that something... You loved her. ...that I loved her. And she was very nice to me. She's gone on to do amazing things since Catastrophe, this way up with Aisling B, who we adore, which I thought was like two of the most brilliant series. And I wanna know whether that's gonna come back.

But we're here to talk about her latest. Bad Sisters. Bad Sisters, second season on Apple TV plus and those sisters, they are bad. They are badass. They are amazing. The sorority and just how what Sharon, so I think it was a story, a Belgian story that Sharon and her production team adapted and now we're into the second season and yeah, there's a big shock in the second episode which I did not see coming and Sharon's come on to talk about Bad Sisters. So I have just come to motherland. Where have you been mum? I know but I thought it was for more your age group and I wouldn't enjoy it. You're a mother.

But I want to know which one she'd be. Liz is my favourite. The northern one. She's the best. So, yeah, she's worked with Sarah Jessica Parker on Divorce. She's... Oh, shit, I've watched all of that. And what have you made, Mum? I've made a salmon en croûte with a dill... We haven't done that ever.

No, a dill beurre blanc sauce. Did you go for the Prosecco sauce? No, I put white wine in. And I might put a drop more in because it doesn't taste very wine-y to me. Do you want to blast wine now? I need something. Sharon Horgan coming up on Table Lines. I might take my jacket off, that's alright. You look, can I just say?

Sharon Horgan has just come in. She looks like one of Charlie's angels. Yeah, oh really? Oh wow. You look unbelievable. Well I'm doing this, you know, press tour for Bad Sisters, so this very nice lady Rachel, who you know. Who we made friends with on the comic relief show this week.

Right. Yeah. Well she's given me a load of nice outfits. So this is one of them. It's really good. She gives you the whole thing like rings. I love the jacket. Yeah. And the big one. I think the big wide trousers. Oh, look at those shoes. They are high. Yeah, I know. Well, good job on sitting down. You look amazing. Do your hand like this all the time? No, not at all. No, ask my daughters. No, not at all. Just tracksuit bottoms and t-shirts, I suppose. Yeah.

Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. And you've brought your two gorgeous daughters along. I have, yeah. How old are they? I wonder should I say because you've just given them boat champagne, but one of them is she's going to be 21 in January. She's allowed.

She's allowed. And one of them is 16. Which you're allowed when you have a... That's fine. We're Mediterranean. It's fine. And it's... Yeah.

You have parental consent. Oh, they're bad sisters. They're really good to each other sisters. So they're good sisters. Yeah, they're really nice to each other. They love each other. They're mad about each other. And they are, I mean, less nice to me, obviously, but that's.

Oh, don't tell me that's going to happen because my daughter adores me at the moment. No, that will happen. Yeah. What age should I be looking forward to that? Well, it sort of depends. But early teens, they start to turn on you. But not I mean, I feel like Aimer hasn't really. Aimer, have you turned on me? She said. They wouldn't still be here with you tonight if they turned on you but not I mean I feel like Aimer hasn't really Aimer have you turned on me? They wouldn't still be here with you tonight if they turned on you. No they kind of they turn they they kind of go off you quite heavily and then and then it sort

of sorts itself out and then they come back. Do you I just need to ask do you think your mom is cool? Absolutely okay that's great. She is cool she She is like very cool. Very cool. I can tell The books and your daughter's think you're cool. So I think you're doing that's amazing. Hold on a minute What do you need mate? Sorry. My son has just walked in you need to go to bed my Right, come on, mate. He's cute as hell. Okay, you can take the bottle there if you want some. Hold on, let me just top this up.

Yeah, top it up, darling. You know where we started getting really into Bolly? We had Joanne Lumley on the pod. Oh my God, so she's, I'm working with her at the moment. How lovely is she? Yeah, because we are the best. She's just so divine. And so beautiful.

So we're doing a Motherland spin-off. She's the mother in it, isn't she? She's the mom. So she plays Amanda's... Mum doesn't know her yet. I don't know. I'm only second way through the second season. OK, so she...

I think she comes in in the second season. I can't remember. But anyway, she's amazing. Is she Amanda's mum? She's Amanda's mum. Can you imagine that? So Amanda Land is the spin off and it's her and Joanna Lumley playing for her mum. And Anne, Anne as you know, who was her Amanda sidekick in Motherland.

Irish Anne. And then this whole new cast. Amazing. I'm so excited for people to see it. I should have done you Prosecco and Spag Boltonite. It's so freaking good. Are you Liz? I love Liz. No I'm not Liz. I kind of wish I was a bit, I think I'm probably a bit of all of them. A bit of all of them.

Less Kevin. Less Kevin. Yeah not so much Kevin. He's so good at that. He's so amazing isn't he? He's so amazing. Kevin. Would you be in the next season in the Manderland?

Oh, I'm not. I'm not in the Manderland, but in the, you know, if we do another season of a Manderland, maybe, because it's just so much fun. It's so much fun watching them. And now it's like sort of teenagers, you know, they've kind of jumped on a few years. So it's that kind of, I mean, you haven't got to that yet, but there's- You're experiencing it real life. So you've had your teenage years and that's kind of,

so that's how it works. Brilliant. I can't wait for that. I just can't wait for you to see that. But we're here, we're talking about Bad Sisters. Yeah. The baddest of sisters. What a cast. Thank you.

I mean, I'm saying thank you, but. No, you must have been involved in the casting and all of it. You must have been involved in all of it. It's your baby now. It is my baby. It really is. Some of the girls I'd worked with before and, you know, and some I sort of admired from afar. And, but yeah, we got really lucky. We got really, really lucky with that cast.

It also makes me want to go to Ireland. Yeah, So much, it's really good for the Irish tourist board. Yeah, I think, oh, that's great. Makes me want to do cold water swimming and I'm not that gal. Yeah, well, none of us are, well, actually Eve Hewson's, I wouldn't say into it, but she grew up round the corner from where the 40 foot is. So she's kind of used to doing it.

But like Eva Berthesil and Sarah Green I think You know would there's a lot of things they'd rather do than get in the car Or it's it's Baltic like it's after I don't know what it is about that particular Spot oh my god. It's crazy. Can we do that? Cuz I'm I know that we're recording this when episode 4 has just dropped. I'm up to episode three. Okay. Is Daryl coming back? Because I'm sorry, you missed a fucking trick on this. But hang on, you saw him in three.

I haven't seen him in four, I haven't seen him in three. Yeah you did. No I fucking didn't. He walks into the back of the church. I missed that bit, I must have been answering a fucking text about table manners. Double screener. Shit, I am.

Yeah, he walks in the back of the church and Becca is like, what the hell? Did you find him? Do you know what? Daryl McCormack lived around the corner from me in Hackney for the whole time I was there. And I never saw him. And then when we were casting Bad Sisters, one of the,

actually the lady who runs the local store, he lived just above her shop and she was like, you've got to see this incredibly fit Irishman who's an actor. And then Nina Gold, who cast it, sent me through this list and he happened to be on the list, but that was the first time I'd sort of seen or heard of him. And he was also in the Emma Thompson film. Emma Thompson film. But that happened. After that. Well, no, he coincided.

Coincided, yeah. But I hadn't, you know, I'd heard about that as we started casting. Is he married? He's not, he's getting married. Is he in a relationship? Does he like older women? I don't know the answer to that.

But he has got a girlfriend, I just remembered. He told us when he came to the premiere in New York. He's so handsome. So he does actually four, get in there. Well then that's what I'm gonna be doing. What? Watching that without my husband and enjoying Daryl. Daryl is gorgeous.

I just, him and Eve's, I mean people, everyone's watched Bad Sisters, so everyone knows Eve. Eve's character is called, what's her name? Becca. And their chemistry together is some of the best chemistry on television. Speaking of other good chemistry you and Rob Delaney I mean we had Rob on a few weeks ago. He's a very attractive man. We don god. I do you do yeah you do Yeah, he's gorgeous. I was I had a child I had my daughter and I was living in East London and catastrophe

What when did catastrophe come out? I know it it was I lose track of Everything time me. I don't understand time. Okay, so I think it was around around the time I was having a child around 2016 or maybe a bit earlier. No, it wasn't. Well I was walking around the same playgrounds like you did, like trying to defend people and I basically thought I was your character. Isn't it a really hard, hard time? It's such a hard time. I used to see, like, mums having picnics without me. I know. I wonder how, where is that, how did they organise that?

What is that WhatsApp group? But then, and the reason why, like, Motherland kind of, was sort of, you know, not easy to write, but like, kind of had to be written, is that once you do find your tribe You know once you find those people that's it. You're It's amazing your life your life changes Everything becomes easier with your kids and like my the mums

I met at the at the school gates are still like my closest pal Did you ever have to ask their permission to write any particular stories? Oh yeah, yeah, quite, quite a lot. Well, not Motherland really, because most of the characters are just completely fictional. There was a few characters in, in catastrophe that were based on people, but people didn't notice, so I didn't have to. Yeah, but definitely storylines I've, that I've wholesale taken from friends I've asked and I've sort of, you know, explained the scenes, definitely stuff in motherland, definitely scenes in divorce. And they're fine, like as long as I think you, because I used to do it without asking and that's

not so good. Did you ever get in trouble? Well, I didn't get in trouble. I had people contact me out from the past who found my old hotmail email and go, well, you know, we used to live together in, you know, blah, blah, blah, shared accommodation. I recognize that scene from, but not in an antagonistic way. Just in a... They should be flattered, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like maybe it wasn't the right thing to do. I didn't ask permission, but now I do. And also, they kind of like it, you know.

Let's talk about around the dinner table, your daughters are here. Actually, maybe you would like to come on the mic and say what's your mum's best meal that she cooks. Who wants to get on the mic? They're kind of a little bit sort of mean about my cooking, but I think they have to, I think I am a good cook, yeah. Well, you make two things really well. Okay. The cauliflower head sitting on yogurt.

Togini. Togini. Gorgeous. Which we said we liked once and then we have a lot, but it's great. Oh! Okay. And salmon and rice with all the vegetables and seaweed. Yeah. Seaweed, salmon and rice. I actually make a really

good roast chicken dinner as well but Sivie doesn't eat chicken anymore so Aymar what do you think about that? She just rolled her eyes. So if you have one Pescatarian does that control the whole thing? We end up just eating fish a lot don't we? We eat fish mainly and then on Sundays or like if people come round for lunch we do like a fish for Saibie and then roast like a meat usually chicken because it's easy. and then roast like a meat usually chicken because it's easy. I love roast chicken. I love roast chicken. Me too. I love all the roasts.

So where did you grow up? I grew up in a place called Belle Euston in County Meath in Ireland. You know I'm Irish. I didn't know that. I've got my Irish passport. Get the hell out of town. Yes, I'm very proud. I'm such a big baby that I can actually feel the effects of half a glass of

champagne. Me too actually. It's terrible. But I've been desperate for a glass of champagne. But yeah, it's such a delicious. I love champagne. I love it too. Me too. So you grew up in County Mead. County Mead, yeah. Yeah. Where is that? That's just north of Dublin in southern Ireland. How many people were in your family? So there's five brothers and sisters, including me. A big family. Two brothers and three girls. And what did your parents do? Did they work?

My dad was, unfortunately, we lost him last year. Actually, this year he died on the 27th of December. He was a turkey farmer. But he does so many things previous to that. He was, you know, he worked on that, he built, well not single-handedly, the underground in London. He was a carpenter, he was a publican, he was, Yeah, he did all sorts. So did you live in London a bit as well? Yeah, I was born in London, which my more Irish brothers and sisters won't let me and

my older sister, Maria, forget. You don't have a Cotley accent. No, but we did when we were little. We moved to Ireland when I was three. OK. And my eldest sister was four Irish twins. And and then we had these little cocks... Yeah, because we were born in Hackney and then my parents had a pub called the White Thorn in Bow. Oh my gosh, is it still there?

So it was very, very east end. No, it was knocked out. Locked down? Yeah, we used to go and see it when my mum and dad would come over from Ireland we would go and visit it. Should have been a blue plaque. Bloody right and last time my mum and I went which was Yonge's ago actually it was gone and and we were a bit we're in messes of it and then we went we went to a pub nearby and the piano that used to be the piano and our pub was in the pub around the corner. We found it.

There's a new telly series in that. The piano. Well, it's a film, isn't it? It's a really depressing film that, you know, will touch a lot of hearts. But yeah, Publican. So Publican's in Bow in the East End. And then when we moved to Ireland first in County Leash in Ireland, we had another pub called the Green Kiwi and my dad had a kiwi tattooed

on his arm. He was a New Zealander. Oh, he was a New Zealander? Yeah. So did you like lambs? Yeah, actually we kept lambs for a while, but lambs are the reason why I stopped eating meat and became a vegetarian for 20 years. Because you loved the lambs are the reason why I stopped eating meat and became a vegetarian for 20 years. Because you loved the lamb.

Well we had lambs and they were like, lambs are great. I mean. You know, and our two lambs would come up to our back door and they would just sort of bang their little... So lambs do that? They do if they want to get in to the house. And they would, we were really attached to them. And then one day I was eating a sandwich weirdly

and I asked what was in it. It was some kind of meat. And my dad said that's, actually the lambs were called chops and cutlets which wasn't a great- Oh my God. He goes, that's chops. And I got really upset.

Of course you did. And I became a vegetarian on that day and I stayed, yeah, stayed on for 20 years. Let me have this please. It was so, it was so fed up with me. Yeah it was very annoying. So who did the cooking? So my mum did almost all the cooking. I was a, you know, really nice cook. I mean, you know, like on Friday we would come home and it would be fish and chips with homemade chips. Yeah, homemade chips. The greatest.

The greatest. And then my dad would always do these like speciality meals. So, you know, when he did cook, he would cook something pretty fantastic, you know? Or even like he would do like American burgers and he would do, you know, line everything up on the counter. So like pickles, lettuce, tomatoes, you know, like in the diner. Exactly. And he used to make this like these sort of amazing milk puddings and, you know,

curries and just like when he when he cooked, he'd sort of go to town. And then as he and my mum curries and just like he when he when he cooked he'd sort of go to town and then as as he and my mum um got older and when dad retired he started cooking more and he was really really good cook. Jess that's probably ready now um did you do the sauce? You're serving or not I've got it on I think bring it over here yeah fine did yeah the sauce just needs warming with a bit of dill in. I might take off my dinner jacket for dinner. You do look gorgeous. Because I'm getting hot. It's schvitzian here, yeah.

Mum, it looks really good. It does look... I'm actually tempted to do it as a dinner party thing. Do it? What's on top of the salmon? What's on top of the salmon? Is it mushrooms? What's on top of the salmon? What's on top of the salmon? There's mushrooms that are blitzed with some Borderman cheese and some spinach. It might need pepper and salt.

I'm a pepper fiend so there is, yeah. My dad, my dad covers everything in pepper so much that whatever's on his plate just becomes black. We've all taken on that. My girls as well. You've always been hatny then when you've been in London? No, no. I started off in Manor House. Oh, did you go to squat raves Sharon? I did. I lived in a squat for like three and a half years. I'd say It was just like living in a flat but Cheaper cheaper. Yeah Mm-hmm. It was in a tower block and then I moved to a squat in Camden for a really brief amount of time and Then I started Renting in Camden and I rented in a housing cooperative in Camden

for about six years. And then I moved to Stockwell, but sort of like bordered with Brixton, like more sort of Brixton. And then, and then Bermondsey. And then- You've been everywhere. Yeah, and then Hackney,

but Hackney for the last 21 years. That's ages. What was the food like? Do you need more sauce? No, no this is gorgeous. What was the food like in the squat? We got food from the Krishna's all the time. Was it nice? Really nice. There was a couple of a couple of so there was so many people in this Tower block, you know on on the various different floors and then we would come together and eat together and a few of them were into you know Hare Krishna and and so obviously the Christian has wanted more people to come on board So they would come out to us to the squat in the tower block and do sort of you know Ceremonies and and then they would feed us at the end. So you had to watch the ceremony

Yeah, but but a few but a few of us were into it What did you consider me? No, but a few a few of them. Yeah a few a few of us a few of them really start A few of them, yeah, a few of us, a few of them really stoned ones. So there was a lot of, you know, food that we sort of learned to make from the kind of food that they made, you know. What do you call it? Like sort of dry curries, you know, where you're just sort of cooking the spices and adding the veg and potatoes, it was all vegetarian. Everyone was either a vegetarian or a vegan. You know, rice dishes and like glubdumens, you know, those sort of very, very sweet dessert, ball things. You eat out of syrup. Yeah, it was all vegetarian. That's

what we ate. And we would do like, because it was sort of a communal, a lot of the time, it would just be these great big pans of like spicy vegetables. Last supper, Sharon, we ask people, last supper, it would be before you're about to go to a desert island for a very long time. Right. It would be your ideal last supper, starter, main, dessert, drink of choice. Okay. A starter. Um, well, I love like a really good prawn cocktail, you know, really big, juicy, chunky prawns and

great dressing and like really simple because I feel like if you have too big of a starter, you just, you just fucking... Would you have it in the avocado or would you just have it on its own? And where is the best prawn cocktail that you just have it on its own? Just on its own. With brown bread. And where is the best prawn cocktail that you've had? Can you remember? Actually, the Shellbourne in Dublin do a great one. Is that the hotel? Yeah, most places in Ireland do really good either prawn cocktail or smoked salmon on

brown bread. But I think it would be that. I think it would be either that or smoked salmon on brown bread. But I think it would be that. I think it would be either that or a smoked salmon. Okay. Smoked salmon. On rye bread? On soda bread. Soda bread, yeah. I think so. Drink of choice?

Like, would I get a drink to have at the start? You can do whatever you want. I'd probably have like a tequila with, I drink George Clooney's tequila. So distressing. Right? It's good. The orangey one, not the clear one.

Okay. So, right? And then with ice, loads of ice and loads of fresh orange juice squeezed into it and then a couple of slices of orange. Main. What would the main be? It would either be the world's greatest lasagna. Okay. Or if it wasn't the world's

greatest lasagna it'd be like a beef Wellington. Oh so this was nearly it? Yeah yeah in fact that's what I had for my wedding day. Beef Wellington. Beef Wellington. Delicious. You've got really good beef Wellington. Pudding? Pudding, 100% trifle. Like, without...

Damn it! You should have done trifle! It's my strong chief. I make it at Christmas. It's my big thing. Which one do you Which, what flavour? So I do sort of like a berry one. Me too.

But I do it, it's very old school. It's not even old school, it's just not classy. Do you use jelly on? I use jelly. No, I don't. Yours is not that much classy, I'm, to be honest. But listen, I do, I do. I don't think it's that classy to use jelly.

I just don't like it. So I do like, you know, the sponge fingers, that all goes down, soak that in sherry and then all the fruit, all the berries and then jelly. So it'd be like a strawberry or raspberry jelly, like a lot. And then really good custard, more sherry. Do you make your own custard? Or do you get a shop bought? Shop bought. No, you use powder. No, do you do the powder? I do the powder.

Oh, yeah, birds. That's kind of like the cross between shop bought and home made, isn't it? You've got to get it right. You're not doing nuts and sugar. No, I'm not doing nuts and sugar. I think that's homemade. And then like just tons of cream and then roasted almonds, like slithers of, chocolate flake. It's a whole thing.

Is it great girls? It's giant. So good. And I used to make a different one for my dad because he loved it sort of old school with like tins of fruit cocktail. You know, proper old school. So lots of tins of fruit cocktail on know proper old school so lots of tins of fruit cocktail on top of your spots. So where do you get your berries from?

Just frozen berries. That's what I do now. I used to do tinned raspberries though, I love that. But really boozy right? Well I don't use booze because Alex doesn't drink, my son doesn't drink so so I don't use juice. I do too. I do too. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. But I like, you know, where it goes bloop as you scoop it. Yeah, but I use Swiss roll instead of sponge fingers. He's slushed. Because it's got a bit more raspberry in, see.

Oh, that's like good. Without the cream. I might try that. But I feel like everyone would get angry because if you try, if the cream. Oh, I might try that. Yeah, do that. But I feel like everyone would get angry because if you try, what if you try and do, I think I tried to do cauliflower one year for Christmas. Everyone was so angry.

Is this the cauliflower in the tahini? No, it was just like, I don't know. It was some kind of slightly fancy cauliflower, but not that, not that fancy. And yeah, everyone just was really angry. You know, even if it's- What would it have been instead? Well, you know, it would just be Brussels sprouts,

red cabbage, roast potatoes, roast parsnips, and then all the meats. And they got annoyed about cauliflower? Yeah. Yeah, because they were like, what the hell are you doing? Devers. But we would have four meats. Four different ones. Four different meats.

So a ham, a lamb, a turkey. No, no, no. OK. Yes, again. Ham, turkey. Yeah. Beef. Yeah. But what kind of beef? Beef Wellington. No. Spiced beef, like pastrami kind of style. Yeah. Like a brisket?

Yes, like a brisket, but better. Better. I think it's a good recipe. Well, my dad would just get it from a certain butchers, and they would do all the spicing, and then you sort of just cook it. Oh, delicious. And we would go to the-

Was it slow-cooked? Yes, slow-cooked. Wow. And then goose. Jeez. Never done goose. So Christmas is big for you guys. Yeah and then all the different sauces that go with that you know. So like a cranberry sauce then a bread sauce. How many people came? Like 18 I guess. It kind of gets bigger every year because of... But you need about 80 to eat all that. No, but you just keep eating that for a week. So we've got your dinner. We've got your dinner.

Did we get your drink? We got the tequila. Yes. Are you sticking with tequila? No, I mean, I wouldn't. I mean, I'm not a psychopath. I wouldn't do that. No, I like it. It's kind of sexy. I just I just mean like that would be a nice one. Yeah. You know, when you're hovering about before the actual meal starts. Yeah. Don't you find that tequila kind of like champagne kind of gets you giddy rather than drunk? It's a different kind of, isn't it?

It just makes you kind of giddy. It's great. You get drunk on half a glass of champagne. You're a lightweight. Well, it's because it's because I gave up for like a really good chunk of time. And then I actually started again just after dad died because I thought I need to just go and drink Guinness in the pub with my family and then and now I'm like I'm a bit of a lightweight I haven't fully gotten them. But you don't drink a lot.

No but when I when I when I drink I drink like an Irish person yeah. I'm gonna ask you your memorable like nostalgic taste and you can think about that. Okay. I'm, because I was doing the dinner when you were talking about being in a pub, you must have spent a lot of time in pubs right? Yes. Yeah with your parents playing, being publicans. When I was little yeah. When you were little and like were there, what was the soundtrack to your growing up in a pub? What was played a lot? Because I can imagine there were certain songs. Oh my God. Did you have a jukebox?

Definitely a jukebox in the Port Arlington place, because I remember it. But in the place in Bow, it was the piano and that was it. Oh yeah, the piano that they've stolen. They really pride themselves on this incredible pianist that they found and the rest of the time they just wanted like just... Did they like live music? Yeah, they did. I mean, it's funny because my mum and dad would never really... they didn't play much music in the house. So it kind of... you know, they were both so into it.

But I mean, we had a handful of records when I was little. There was felt like there was very little music around. So what style of music did they like? Like my dad was a big sort of, you know, Frank Sinatra kind of... Krooners. Yeah, yeah, loved all that sort of rap pack kind of thing. Rap pack, I mean. And mum, I don't know, I guess, mum would have liked more sort of like whatever we were listening to, you know, kind of popular culture. Oh, well, at what point?

Okay. Twins. Twins. Oh, twins. Twins, I was absolutely, um, Juran Juran kind of, uh, new, new romantic, Adam and the Ants. And then I got very, very heavily into David Bowie when I was, I guess, 12, 13. And then, so then it was Bowie and Kate Bush and yeah, they were, they were my soundtrack for a lot of my teens. And then, and then of course, like, you know, the Smiths and Joy Division. You're an indie girl. You're an indie girl.

Yeah. I mean, I'm not the Smiths. Joy Division. You're an indie girl. You're an indie girl. Yeah. I mean, I like the Smiths. Oh, God. Are you a miserable man? I saw Johnny Marr play really recently. Oh, he's lovely. We had him on the clock. We had him on the clock.

He's amazing. But I saw that. I loved him. He was so lovely. And I told him that I saw him play when I was 14 in a pub in Dundalk in County Louth in Ireland and he absolutely remembered that tour when it all kicked off when Morrissey said something very controversial and then they all had to sort of you know something about the IRA I can't remember but anyway yeah they had this really tricky time sort of where they had to have proper security and stuff and they were touring around Ireland.

But that was, that was when I saw them and yeah, we were, we were obsessed. We, we dressed like Goths, but we were, we were indie really. Cause I don't, I never really fully got into. What did you have dyed long black hair? Died long black hair, all the black clothes, like vintage black, you know, very sort of like little fitted jackets and you know, very sort of like little fitted jackets and, you know, sort of very kind of glam for 15 year old country girls. But you know, I mean, I listened to The Cure and Suzy, but outside of that, I wasn't, you

know, I didn't have sort of big sort of goth. When did you get back to England then? When I was 19. I moved to England when I dropped out of art college in Dublin and I moved to London literally to make my fortune. Of course you did. Have you done stand up?

No, I've done live comedy, live sketch comedy. I've never, never wouldn't be, wouldn't be brave enough to be myself, you know, on stage. I don't understand comedians, they terrify me. Oh, stand-ups, comedians. Are all stand-ups themselves, or do they take on a persona? Well, I can say they take on a bit of a persona, yeah. But I used to, you know, I used to,

I mean, I used to go and watch stand-up all the time. It was an obsession of mine. But yeah, it was never something I thought, it was never something I thought I'd be brave used to go and watch stand up all the time. It was an obsession of mine. But yeah, it was never something I thought, it was never something I thought I'd be brave enough to do. But it's weird, because now I do, like I do live, I can do live TV and I do, like I interviewed Stanley Tucci at the Palladium and there was like a lot of people there

and it didn't, I was, found it easy enough to be myself, but, and I like an audience. Like, I don't easy enough to be myself but, and I like an audience like I don't know what that says about me but I do. I just want to actually take a moment to say This Way Up was absolutely amazing. It was astonishing. Well that was Aisling's show, I mean we, Mary Man made it but that's all Aisling. You and Aisling in it too was amazing. You're fabulous together.

Oh thank you. I loved it so much. Yeah she's so clever. She is amazing. I have to say about Bad Sisters, I love the kitchen scenes. They always seem to be like, even when you're like shooting from the fridge, like it centers around that kitchen,

the big discussions. Yeah. Do you not think it's done? I don't know, I've never made bread and butter. Is it spongy if you touch it? It's spongy. Then it's done, it's done, yeah. Yeah, I love those

scenes as well they're a real bugger to shoot because you know usually they're a big ensemble seems like the Christmas one and they're the Easter one and we did a lot this season as well but they yeah they they take a lot of time to shoot and anything sort of ensemble is tricky but I there the ones seems I love the most. Cause you get that real feeling of like what it is to be in a big family. I love it.

I love the house. I know. You know, in the second season, we had to just build a new one because the first, the first one was knocked down and developed. Oh my God. So this is why Dervlo, a world show director is so amazing because what they had to do was find somewhere, This is why Dervler, World Show director is so amazing because

what they had to do was find somewhere a location that matched. And it was such a specific location because it was overlooking, you know, the sea. It was wild and it was as well. So we found this this area in Wicklow because that house was in Hoth. And we found an area in Wicklow that sort of matched it up. And it ended up being so perfect because you know we use the whole area around and the sea and everything but yeah we built this house we built a little house half a house it's only half a house but where is it now? I don't know. Have you ever taken anything? I think I've blown down maybe no no no I don't know. Have you ever taken a think? I think I've blown down maybe. No, no, no, I don't know where it is. It's either in a box somewhere or it's still there. Have you

got your own house in Ireland though? No, I don't. You need one. Yeah, I've got, I've got, I've got a house in LA. Have you? Which is like like in Beachwood. Oh, how lovely. Yeah, it's lovely. Where is your first spot that you go to when you're in LA? We go to the Beachwood Cafe and we eat a load of eggs. We hike, you know, we go on a big old hike, usually up to the sign or we go to Griffith Park. We go to Las Feliz, we go

to Fred 62's. Do you go to Clark Street Diner? No I don't know that one. So it's just on Fairfax. You know the one that used to be the 101 or something? Yes I used to stay there. I felt a bit sad when it stopped being just a nice-looking diner. Oh no it's fabulous. They've kept the interiors exactly the same. Yeah, they do a really good Oreo cookie milkshake with peanut butter. The food is fabulous, it's my favourite. Where else do we go girls? The Alcove.

The Alcove, we always go to the Alcove, which is on Franklin is it? Yeah. We also go to the Oaks, just opposite Gelson's and Lapeybell and... I love Gelson. I tried to get into the Scientology church once. They were having an open day. Cause I used to see... Fascinated.

Are you? Yeah. And what did they let you in for? Not in a way that I would be attracted to it, but just in a way that I find it so creepy. Saf is next door to it. Yeah, did they let you in? No, I didn't.

Why? I thought I'm gonna get in here because it's an open day and there was this whole thing like saying we welcome. I have got me very suspicious. I think they must have just told from my cynical chops. Alice, what's the matter? You know.

Darling, how much? Small, thank you. Smaller than that bit? No, that looks good. No, but that looks a bit, give her a little bit of a crunch. No, that looks good. Okay, fine. That's the crunch, darling. It looks very sad actually. Well maybe it's

custardy. Yeah it looks great. That's how it's supposed to be. Really like everything is rubege. Sorry. No. Just have some more cream. I will, I will absolutely. Please help yourself to more cream. It's really delicious. Is that like brioche? It's panettone. Panettone! I can eat that. Is this for me? Yeah.

What is a nostalgic taste? We've had your nostalgic kind of sounds of the pub, but what's a nostalgic taste from your childhood or somewhere? I would say like my mum used to make like scones she would use like treacle and makes the treacle and raisin kind of scones so any any sort of home baked scone type bun type thing feels really nostalgic I mean ice creams like there's very specific ice creams that you get in New Orleans that you can't get anywhere else. So there's brunch. The girls will back me up on this. One of the greatest ice creams ever invented.

So it's like a vanilla and strawberry ice cream and it's covered in in sort of crumbs like biscuit crumbs that are also strawberry and vanilla. It's amazing. And then- Who makes it, which make is it? I'm Googling it. I don't know. Walls maybe?

Can't remember. And you can't get it here. No, you cannot get it here. And then there's a loop de loop, which is sort of like a lime and chocolate ice lolly. Oh my God. So nostalgic. Ooh, that does look good. It's really good. Let me see.

Brunch. It's even better than that's really good It's even better than that guys It's even better than that picture Run this way. So it's kind of like a feast It's not like a feast Feasts have got a big log of horrible chocolate in the middle. I disagree. I really like a feast Okay, you eat Tatos? And Tatos yeah Tatos are nostalgic and there was this there was this one ice cream that they don't do anymore I think it's a tragedy called a

Wibbly Wobbly Wonder. You have to Google that one. Yeah it was it was sort of like a lime no like a lemon jelly and in it in it I could hard to explain, it's like an ice pop. It wasn't called a jiggly pop? No, a wibbly, wobbly. Is it any of those ones? Wibbly, wobbly one, give me. Wibbly, wobbly. Oh and an ice burger, you get ice burgers here though, don't you?

No. It's literally, have you ever had a jiggly? Oh well it looked very like a jep. Maybe it's like maybe it's Yes, so it's a jiggly because it did have a jiggly sort of thing going on because it was Goes into the ice completely x-rated stop it the lolly goes This all sounds completely X-rated, stop it! The lolly goes into the ice cream! Just the lolly goes into the ice cream, mother! There it is, we probably won't do it.

They don't do it anymore, I think maybe it was... It's not giving, it's not giving as much as the brunch. Well, that's a real nostalgic taste, but that's all sweet stuff. Oh! Arlandi really, really good sausages. God knows what's in there because they doesn't, it doesn't taste like meat. It probably wasn't. It they are the best. My my my mom and my dad would do these great fry ops and like the sound

walking into a kitchen with the sound of a radio playing like talk radio and the smell of sausages and mashers and like black pudding and all that kind of thing that's incredibly nostalgic to me. With soda bread? Soda bread or just toast like the smell of toast. Potato cakes. Potato cakes. I love them. You know the ones that are kind of... Potato files. Yes. Those. Gorgeous. They're great. They're melted butter. Yeah. They're really nice. Sharon Horgan, it's been an absolute pleasure

having you on. Yeah. You are prolific. You are incredibly impressive. Your daughters are gorgeous. Yeah, I'm lucky. I can't wait to see more of your creations on screen. Thanks honey.

And good luck with the rest of Bad Sisters. The finale is on Christmas Day. It's actually the day before Christmas Day. Okay, come on. I think it's called Christmas Eve. The's actually the day before Christmas Day. I think it's called Christmas Eve. The food was delicious. Thank you for having me. Oh, it was a pleasure. I really, really, really enjoyed it.

And I'm a really small bit pissed. Great, I love that. I don't see much at all. You're really holding it down. Thank you so much to Sharon Horgan for coming over. I love her daughters, they're so sweet. And she looked incredibly glamorous. I loved her outfit. Loved the outfit.

The outfit was fab. The hair was fab. And she gave us brilliant stories about the pub and the squat. Where is the piano? I know where is the piano? We should do a search party for that piano. Somebody will have the piano. She said it was in a pub next door. Still? Have you still got your false eyelashes on mum? No, these are from using Rapidlash. Wow mum. That is not an ad. No, honestly it's from using Rapidlash. Come on Len. Thank you Sharon Horgan for coming by on a Friday night and sharing some Bollinger with us.

Thank you to my children who are still awake and it is past 9 o'clock. Do you want to do the outro little man? What are you gonna say? Bye. We'll see you next week.