Table Manners with Jessie and Lennie Ware - Suki Waterhouse
Episode Date: July 15, 2026This week we’re joined by singer, songwriter, actress and model Suki Waterhouse! Suki came over on the hottest day of the year (so far!), and mum made a delicious refreshing Asian chicken soba noodl...e salad for lunch, and a fab gooseberry custard tart for pud. Suki told us about what it was like touring with a baby, her love of cauliflower cheese with baked beans, life in London while her partner Robert Pattinson films the new Batman, what it was like opening for Taylor Swift on tour, her tips for vintage & charity shopping, and she reveals her plastic surgeon dad’s unforgettable story… just wait! Thank you for a beautiful afternoon Suki, her album Loveland is out now and she will be on tour across the US this summer.Listen & watch Table Manners here - https://tablemanners.komi.io/Follow Table Manners on:Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tablemannerspodcast/TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@tablemannerspodcastFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/tablemannerspodcastYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@TableMannersPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to Tablemanors.
I'm Jessie Wirt and we're recording this on the hottest day of the year.
It's a scorcher.
Scorcio.
So you may hear or see a fan rotating and lifting Lenny's hair up every so often.
Forgive us.
Producer Alice will do her best to get it out there.
But listen, we've got to have some help in here.
My kids are off school by one o'clock.
Quite right.
Speaking of kids, if I talked about the fact that my daughter's enrolled me into the school concert,
where parents have to get involved, she's put me down for cello.
You can't play the cello, darling.
I played the cello when I was 11.
I know, darling, and you didn't get a scholarship on the basis of your cello play.
No, I bloody didn't because I'm not very good, but the teacher thought that it would be very special because she's on strings.
I said, can't I be in the choir?
She said, Emily's mum sings.
I mean, I'm a singer, babe.
And she went, Emily's mom sings.
Who said that, the teacher?
No, my daughter.
Oh, well, can't you?
So I'm on cello. I'm going to have to cut these falsies off.
Yeah.
And open your legs.
Yep.
That went really south.
Yeah.
Also, I just tried to make cold brew at my house.
What's cold brew?
Cold brew's like, what I now understand, intense coffee.
So I was like, God, this is delicious.
It's like a, you know, an ice latte.
I think I've actually ingested about the equivalent of 10 espresso.
I think I can feel that.
The energy in this.
room.
I'm freaking out, then.
You're talking a lot, darling.
I'm gurning, I'm freaking out.
I've got heart palpitations and I've taken it.
I'm worried about this guest coming on.
Who have we got?
Oh, we've got someone really fabulous.
Yeah.
She is absolutely gorgeous.
Yeah.
She's modelled.
She's acted and she sing.
This is her third album, I think.
It's called Love Land.
It's wonderful album.
She's very sexy.
Very sexy.
She's got a great voice.
And she's got a song called Tiny.
Raisin that I need to understand why it's called Tiny Raisin.
Because I think it's about Robert Patterson.
Oh, wow.
We knew this was going to be a squalcher.
So, Lenny, what have you made today?
I've made a chicken and mango and sober noodle salad.
Yum.
Salad.
Whose recipe?
It's a New York Times recipe.
Who's the chef?
I don't know.
She has a lot.
Check them, yeah.
I just let in check them.
I think it's someone called Susan.
Susan.
But it might not be.
Hold on, I'll check.
How do you stop, like, a coffee hitting so hard?
Susan Spungan.
Okay.
And it's chicken and mango sober salad with peanut dressing.
Have you made your sober noodles already?
Everything's done.
Okay.
It's all in the fridge.
It's all in the fridge cold.
Yeah.
And I'll put it together at the last minute.
Do we want bread rolls?
Because I can put them in the air fryer.
Do you think anyone will need a bread roll?
I may need one to soak up this caffeine.
And then for dis...
And I'm just putting a little green salad on the side
in case anyone needs it.
And then I've made a gooseberry tart.
Oh, gozgogs.
Do you call them goose gogs?
Sorry, what?
Gus gogs.
That's what everyone always used to call them.
That sounds like a posh person.
Gus gogs are...
If anyone heard that Gozbury is called Goodscog.
Yeah.
Oh, David...
Everyone called them goosegogs.
Hang on.
Where have you heard that?
Your grandma?
Everyone called them goosegogs.
Is your grandmother posh?
No.
Oh, okay, fine.
They were goose goug.
Sounds like...
Anyway, Gusbury said...
He's sinned.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I got got that completely wrong.
Well, I've made a Gusbury tart.
Yeah.
Because there's...
Gusburys aren't around very long.
And they're in season.
Thanks, gone.
Those hairy, furry things.
Not fairy and furry mine.
Oh, well, do you not want my time?
No, I'm sure the goods got...
I'm going to serve it with fresh cream or crem fresh.
Yum.
Yeah.
She's here.
Suki Waterhouse.
Coming up on Table Manors.
Suki Waterhouse.
Hello.
Looking glowy.
gorgeous, quite cool. So do you
actually. We all are glowing because
I feel overglowned.
Because we're on the hottest day
so far of the year, I think.
I think of the century. I think it's going to be the
hottest day in June ever.
Brits really like a stat
in the summer, don't know? I'm obsessed. Since
I've been back in England the last few months, I'm
obsessed with the weather app. I'm watching
BBC News. Last night I was watching the
roundup of the weather. I get
obsessed about it when I come back here.
Is it because you kind of
are consumed by stressing out about it
or is it just kind of the intrigue of like
where what strappy dress am I going to wear today?
It's the intrigue.
I really love talking about the weather.
Do you?
That's because you're British.
But do you think,
because are you based in New York or L.A?
I'm sort of like, I'm sort of floating around.
I'm a bit of, we're a bit, we're a bit floaty.
We're depending on filming schedules and tour
and all that kind of stuff.
But now I'm back here for quite a long time
and going on tour.
But we're sort of based here for this.
end of the year. When do you go on tour? Next week. On Saturday. You're going tour ahead of the album being
out. No, so I'm actually, well, I'm going out there starting rehearsals, doing a bit of promo,
and then July 27th I'll be on tour. So it's funny this time with the album, I've made the album and
I'm kind of immediately going on tour like two weeks after doing the record. Do you do that?
I'm going on tour in October. So no, I haven't done it so close. But that's, I mean, this is your
third album. Congratulations. Thank you. Love, Land.
Thank you.
It's very sexy.
It's cheeky.
It's just like you.
It's just like you.
Can I remind you the first time we met?
I don't know if you remember.
Remind me.
We were at the Ephra pub in Brixton and you joined my friend.
The Ephra.
And you ordered a Baileys.
Oh, I do remember that.
And I was probably the only time I had a bunch of Pais.
Because I was like, who's this cute girl that's ordering a bailey's at the pub?
And I remember it so well because I thought it was actually quite genius.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't, haven't drunk a Bailey's since actually.
I must have been trying, oh no, wait, I was in a Bailey's phase.
I love Bayley's.
I still love babies so much.
Me too.
I don't think it was even in wintertime.
So that's why I found it, because you know, we all have a Bayleys at Christmas.
Well, you have Bayle's.
You were having one in like the summer and I'm like, who is this girl?
Yeah, see, we have Bayle's with ice.
Don't you remember when we go to Augustus?
Often we have Bayle's with ice in the evening.
I think that's when I was underage, Mom.
Okay, sorry.
And it was like you allowing me to have a drink whilst we watch Mama Mia and then out for cinema.
It's like a little cappuccino.
It's like milky.
Delicious.
Do you guys like Pinacoladas?
I do.
I haven't had one this year.
That's so good.
Is that your favourite?
Pinacolada is pretty delicious.
Oh, so mine is Cosmo.
Cosmo is great.
My very best.
What's the one with egg?
I went through a bit of...
Piscco sour?
Amaretto sour?
Oh, Amarito sour.
Does that have egg in it?
Apparently, yeah.
That's used to.
I used to just get so pissed on that.
Me too.
I used to because they were really sugary.
That was my drink of like going out.
Do you like maconis?
Yes.
I'm really into apparel spritz at the moment.
Do you?
Why?
I had a couple last night.
Why do you like them?
Just refreshing.
I don't feel that hung over today.
No, not at all.
And they go down really quickly.
I watch that.
That's what I was drinking.
Watched the football last night.
When you have the apparel spritzsche in as well as soda water.
Yes, prosceco is.
Okay.
That's the only thing that puts me off it.
Because I don't like prosceco.
I can't taste it.
But that's the thing.
I don't ever want to taste drinks.
I really like a whiskey.
and Coke, but that's...
You sing about that.
That's a lyric in the album.
Which song is that one?
Jutebox.
Jutebox, yeah.
Whiskey and Coke.
So that is, what whiskey are you going for?
Anything, to be honest.
I'm not very good at making drinks.
This is just stuff that I would order,
but I just don't really want to taste that alcohol ever.
Can we talk about tiny raisin?
I love that song.
She often know who it's about.
I think I know who it's about,
but I need to know, is that your nickname or is it that...
No, no.
No, so are you talking about?
the title. Yes. I don't know about you. You don't mention tiny raisin in it. I do. Do you? Yes.
It's in like the second line. But I got myself into it. I don't know if you ever get yourself
into a massive pickle about not only choosing the songs, but also what to name them. Yes. And so
that song really should be called That's My Man because that's the type. That's really the course.
But I have this other song called Any Man. And then, you know, I'm naming everything,
trying to decide what's going on the album. And I just get in a huge pickle. I'm like, I'm not having
that's my man and any man.
That's too many things about men.
That's too similar.
Babe, I'm with you.
And then I start getting myself.
So it was tiny raisin.
So the lyric at the beginning is
I've been lying in the bathtub till I'm a tiny raisin.
Okay.
Oh, it's not about someone's tiny raisin.
Oh, no.
It's actually very generous song.
Okay, sorry.
It's a beautiful line about watching my kid in your arm.
You sound like someone very close to me who said
that's what it sounds like.
And then it, so I should have just.
called it, that's my man. No. Then I called it Tiny Raisin. Then it sounds like I'm talking about
someone's time. It's just an absolute nightmare. It's a generous song. Can we just say it's a
generous song? It's also a love song. It's like a chaotic love song. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's not,
you know, it's yeah. So then it turns, it sounds like it's, you know, some kind of toxic and like
some kind of stat. No. Oh no. But yeah, so that got me into a right old pickle. But basically I thought
Tiny Raisin would be a good title because it's sort of, it's what happens to you when you're in the bar for too long.
And you're kind of, you know, you've been there for, I guess my reasoning behind it, I've been there for hours.
I'm like, where's my dinner reservation?
Where's the champagne?
Where's the flowers?
You know, where's my loving?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a great song.
But everyone's completely confused by it.
And I've, yeah.
But it's a talking point.
There you go.
There we go.
And it is a great song.
So I actually, I'm getting into this thing with people that's like, some people are like, oh, I hate raisins by themselves.
or they have to be chocolate covered.
Do you guys like...
I love roses.
Me too.
I love chocolate coloured.
The ones in M&S, chocolate covered raisins.
Imagine if you're a chocolate covered raisin today though, it's going to be like just everywhere.
I think I started talking about it because I was talking to a friend about Alpin and someone
saying, you know Alpin the cereal.
I love Alpin so much.
And someone was saying, oh, in our family everyone used to eat the raisins and take, you know,
take their raisins out if you didn't like them.
Or, you know, it would be like some people love them.
some people didn't like, we would always fight about the raisins.
Everyone wanted the raisins.
And then I would pick all of them out and that would be a,
everyone would get in an argument about that in our family.
I, for Alpin, it's the creaminess that comes out of it.
Yeah.
You've got four million milk in there.
You know why? There's dried milk in.
Yeah, it's like formula.
Yeah.
So delicious.
Can you get it in Los Angeles?
I haven't tried actually.
It's been such an English thing.
I'm not sure you can get it in state.
Yeah, maybe not actually.
That would be something that I might need to play.
Well, everything's gluten-free and milk-free.
and everything free, I think, there.
Or it's like really just bad.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's either really bad or madly good.
So you grew up West London.
I did.
I was born in the Queen Charlotte's Hospital,
which is the same one that you were born in.
Oh my God, have we wicked.
I was wicking you on the way over.
That's so funny that they put that as your thing in a wicket.
But actually, I weren't born in Queen Charlotte's Charlotte.
Oh, wasn't I?
Born in West London Hospital.
Which is now, which was, because it was on the edge of, you know,
near Hammersmith's roundabout.
It was a little place where they did
modified La Boisbeaut.
What does that mean?
It meant you didn't have any pain relief.
You had music in the background.
I had everything.
I'd say, give me the lot.
So that was a pointless.
Yeah, it was a pointless place.
No, I'm sure it was brilliant for many birthing people, but, you know.
It was pointless for me because I didn't have a modified La Boisbeye birth.
La Bois.
I've never heard of L'Boyer.
La Bois was a Frenchman and he wanted dark lights.
and you have music in the background.
It sounds charming.
It's so funny that you took the chronic piss out of me
for wanting quite natural,
going for quite a natural, holistic approach to birthing.
You were like, oh, the God, you did exactly the same.
But, darling, I wasn't a true polite you.
And I didn't have a award to birth.
And I didn't have someone doing chakras over me like you did.
Anyway, it sounds exactly like my mum about everything.
And you also assume I was looking at your Wikipedia and you also kind of, you're quite similar to my mum.
You've done quite similar things.
Yeah, your mum's social work.
And psychotherapy and doing court cases.
Where was she a social worker?
She did, she was working at Place to Be, a charity.
Oh, I think it's a wonderful charity.
Yeah, it's a great place.
It's fantastic.
Yeah, doing stuff in the courts and representing.
Yeah, place to be is such a great charity.
So can you set the scene of who was around the dinner table
and what were you eating in your childhood?
Yeah.
Okay, so I'm one of four and the oldest of four.
I've met your two sisters.
Who are heaven.
Oh, heaven.
You're so lovely to each other.
I love my sisters so much.
And I also have a brother.
So the younger ones are twins.
Okay.
They're 27.
Maddie and Charlie.
Right.
Yeah.
Charlie's a social worker too, actually.
Is that a girl or a boy?
A boy.
A boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where's his social?
He works in Feltnam for the council, which is really, really tough.
It must be tough.
Yeah.
Feltons are really tough.
Really, really tough.
Yeah.
So my brother's amazing and he's been doing that.
Yeah, sort of since he was a teenager.
And then my sister, yeah, sister Maddie.
So there's four of us, dad and mum.
So quite a big family.
How many of the three of you?
Three of us.
Yeah.
So what were you eating?
We were eating.
cauliflower and cheese
with baked beans
a lot.
Sounds delicious.
It's amazing.
That was like one of the big...
Would you have that not just on a roast day?
No.
I think my mom would just
cauliflower and cheese
in the oven.
We were having lots of stews.
My mom's really big on stews.
Chicken broth.
Yeah, things that she could do
for a long, you know, put on...
Was she working always?
Yeah, she was...
My mom was a cancer nurse
and then she stopped doing that when she had twins
and then she stopped for quite a few years
and then she went back to doing psych therapy.
Is that how your parents met?
Because your dad's a doctor.
Yeah, they met in a hospital.
And it's funny story.
My mum's version of it is that they met over this man
who had a decaying buttock.
And my dad's version of the story is he kind of saw her on this ward
and she was walking down the ward
and he said he was dating every nurse.
Decaying buttock.
But my mum's like, no, we met.
Because your dad's a plastic surgeon, so I guess he was sorting out for the bum.
But he, well, no, no, because before you become a plastic surgeon, you have to do all these kinds of different.
You have to be a surgeon.
I think you have to do, like, heart surgery.
And you have to do a lot.
I don't think you can just, like, go into, and it's craniofacial surgery.
And he has a, yeah, he's done all, he sort of does a lot of things on, he was doing a lot of work on kids and facial deformities.
He had a charity called Facing the World that he started, like,
25 years ago, which was they would fly over kids from all around the world. And some of them
would stay with us for like nine months. And they would do like, you know, 10 surgeries.
He's amazing. So he does, he does all the, you know, all the plastic surgery, boobs,
bums and face. But he does, he's always done like all this other stuff. So for some reason,
there was a decaying buttock and that's where my mom thinks. I don't know where I'm going with
the story. But regardless, they've been together for a long time. And they're doing great.
I, that's, I mean, did you never fancy going into, uh, I don't think it was ever an option
really?
No.
And I think, yeah, they were okay with that.
But it was never, no, nothing about my grades, I guess, was ever screaming.
She's going to be a doctor.
So I think, yeah, they, yeah, they didn't have that.
They didn't kind of, my parents did you go to.
I went to Ibstock.
Oh, you went to his stock place.
Yeah, yeah.
That must have been fun.
Yeah.
It's fun.
So cauliflower cheese and baked beans because I guess your parents were working and it sounds a bit like my mom.
She'd always have something in the pressure cooker and there would always be something.
But like, would you say your mom's good cook?
She's my dad, yeah, my mom is a great cook.
I think she, yeah, she was, she's fantastic.
And she definitely, she's, look, I don't think it's something she, did she enjoy doing that every single night?
Me too.
Oh my God.
I can't even imagine it because.
when I think of having four kids and a husband coming home from work
and that expectation to have dinner on the table every night
while there's kids going on, homework going on,
I mean, she just used to sometimes, we always laugh about it,
but she would sometimes just lose it and go and sit in the car
and we'd be like waving at her through the window.
But our house was quite chaotic.
Really, I think all families are right, it was chaotic,
especially in those years where the twins were younger
and it went from two of us to four of us.
But yeah, so I don't think it was always like pleasurable
to be cooking all the time for us.
And now she really, my dad loves it.
And my dad's the kind of guy that's like,
oh my God, this look at it.
Taste this tomato.
It's just exquisite.
And he'll, he sort of has taken over now.
Oh, he's retired?
No, he hasn't.
But he'll still work.
Yeah, he'll still work.
But he still works.
But he's definitely, now they have a place in the countryside.
And we all go down there and it's the kitchen.
like really his place now.
Are you a good cook?
No.
Just don't fancy it.
I do, I do fancy it, but, and I'm going to, at some point.
And there have been times, like, there have been times I got a country house two years ago
for a couple of weeks.
I really got into it.
Did you feel like you were like playing, cosplaying Tradwife?
Yeah, and I just loved, I just loved it.
I really fell in love with it.
And you had the whole day to get into it and I got into recipes.
So I can.
I think I can.
But I think that for some reason that space and that time and thinking about it isn't in my...
The thing is you've got to be...
I think to...
I mean, this podcast, we're preoccupied with food.
We talk about recipes.
We live and breathe food all the time.
Takes over your life.
Yeah.
And thank God you.
You don't even have a cardo in the States if you're there.
Oh, but you've got lots of other things.
Have you?
Oh, yeah.
Do they deliver?
Oh, within hours.
Yeah.
Okay, that's fine.
You've got Instacart, which is great.
Oh, have you?
And then you've got something called Postmates, which is sort of like, yeah, yeah, postmates.
Postmates is great.
And then you've got Uber Eats, but Instacart's quite incredible.
You can even go all different, you can go to all different shops and then say, bring this all to me in an hour.
Yeah.
I mean, America's got, it's got good.
Okay.
Yeah.
So if we were coming around to yours.
Yes.
She's not going to talk.
Would you be cooking?
She's ordering in.
Would you order in?
And if so, where are you ordering in from?
I'd order in or where would we order in from if we're in London?
I'm just thinking of what I did the other day.
I got this really nice sort of porridge music.
I think for breakfast.
Okay.
Are you ordering for breakfast?
No, I know.
This is awful, isn't it?
You want us in and out, Suki.
She'll just, maybe this is what I did the other day.
You put you an alpin a milk, Suki.
I could.
I could alpha in milk.
I could have. Okay, fine. Well, if I'm doing
breakfast at home, fine.
Yeah, if I'm doing breakfast at home, maybe I'll do
some toast with banana and avocado
because I can kind of feed myself. I think babies
liking that. I'm enjoying that too.
Banana and avocado.
Yeah, mixed together.
So you're giving us weaning for this food.
Is that winning? That is, we actually
enjoying that on toast.
Banana and avocado together.
It's quite nice, though. Yeah.
Maybe some honey on bread.
Thank you.
I'm trying.
Banana avocado.
It's really nice.
Banana avocado and honey.
Well, no, maybe.
And banana.
Yeah, banana.
Yeah.
The honey separate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure.
Yeah.
I'm a big end to honey.
If I'm probably going to spoil you, I really like.
I really like a jacket potato.
I love a jacket potato.
I'm obsessed with jacket potato.
What are your toppings?
I love tuna, sweet corn, mayonnaise.
Delicious.
Bake beans.
Cold or hot?
Hot.
Did you put cheese on your baked beans?
Yeah.
I put cheese on underneath.
And to be honest, and to be honest, if, if,
sour cream and caviar at a restaurant on a jacket potato.
Gorge.
They serve it like that.
The tiny little potatoes with caviar and sour cheese.
I love that.
Chips, they do it now too.
Is everyone hungry?
Yes, I'm hungry.
I'll just start.
I forgot that we're going to get food.
Oh, yeah, babe.
Oh, you're not going to eat.
Yes, she is eating.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
I forgot that that actually happened.
I actually was kind of was thinking like maybe they don't do that anymore.
Oh, my God.
No.
God, whilst your stomach rumbled.
I haven't, I didn't eat my breakfast.
Oh, babe.
No, well, I'll let mum explain what we're having.
But whilst mum gets the lunch ready, we could start on your last supper.
On my last supper, my goodness.
Start a main put, drink of choice.
Drink of choice.
I'm probably going to have a Coca-Cola, honestly.
A Coca-Cola?
Yeah.
Mexican-Cola.
Lava Coca-Cola.
What are you having?
Glass bottle Coca-Cola.
Are you having?
Are you having glass of wine or something?
Or are you having...
Oh, I'm having, like, many different things.
Different drinks, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you can do whatever you like.
I do feel like Coca-Cola just makes me feel like that piece.
Do you like the Mexican cola?
No, I like the Mexican cola.
I really like the full-fat Coke.
I don't like Diet Coke.
I do think that Coke Zero did pretty well to try and replicate it.
No.
Okay, fair enough.
I just don't feel it.
No.
Delicious.
Really?
Yeah, no.
Coke Zero.
No, I love Coke.
I actually really like direct Coke, too.
Okay, okay.
I like the morning.
I wish I could because it's a crazy sugar addiction to have.
Do you have one a week?
It depends.
I think on tour it really kicks up.
Oh, it's on your rider.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It really kicks up on tour.
It's just something to bring me to life.
What else do you have on your rider?
I don't really.
I probably have peter bread, like very simple foods.
Okay, yeah.
I'm not trying to do anything that makes me feel dodgy before going on stage.
Or like belchie.
Yeah.
No, belchie.
In fact, that's always a mistake.
Sometimes you go out for a drink or people are in town
and maybe you'll be able to go out for a little drink before.
And then you're just burping the whole time.
Shocker.
So you've got to keep really, you've got to keep everything really clean, I think.
Not too much.
Before we go back to Last Supper, where are you starting your tour in the States?
Yeah.
Because you're quite massive in, I mean, your streaming numbers are insane.
Oh, that's so sweet.
But like you had this big viral moment with...
Which was so strange.
Good looking.
Yeah, because that song was...
How did that happen?
The weirdest story because that was, that song I put out, like, nine years ago, completely independently.
I worked it up on Distro Kid.
I'd made it with my friends, Nat and Jules, who were the first people that I really started making music with.
So I would put, like, one song out a year.
And, yeah, and then, like, nine years later, it's all, like, strange.
It's very, like, synchronicity sort of moment because I'd got my record together during the pandemic.
pandemic. Yeah. Kind of like funded it myself. Yeah. Found a, found subop, the label that I put it out with. So that one, that
record was just sort of, wasn't out yet, but it was kind of just about to go out. And then suddenly,
the song that the label had actually asked me to take down, they'd asked me to take down all the
old stuff because they wanted a fresh slate and no one really like cared for that song to be
honest or any of that stuff. And then, um, and then as that record was coming out, uh, the,
The song suddenly...
On TikTok?
On TikTok.
It's so mad.
With no...
You know, it was like...
It couldn't have been less of an interest for the people on that side of the business.
And what was the kind of viral...
Was there a dance with it?
Was there something that everyone had to do?
Or did it just get kind of passed around as a soundtrack to people doing stuff?
It was...
Was there a theme?
The theme was sort of...
Quite a lot of trauma, I think.
Like...
Oh.
No, but it can also, it's also, but it's also kind of, okay, euphoric at the same time.
But I saw it, yeah, it was, I don't think there was a dance, no.
Okay.
It was sort of people, then it kind of reemerged recently and it was with people showing off their hair.
Okay.
But it's more, it's more just like screaming from the rooftops, like about that love of your life.
Do you do TikTok?
I do.
Do you like it?
Well, once I.
So, you embed with it?
Well, once my song started blowing up, I was like,
you were like, hey, I can, well, I get on to this.
I didn't know how it worked or anything.
And then I was kind of like, okay, that's get good.
Let's start doing TikTok.
So I am, yeah, I am on TikTok.
It's, you know, it's not something that comes, like,
it's sort of something that I've, like, learnt.
And I really, look, it's fun when it's fun.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
When you're, like, trying to figure out, when it's like,
the label's like, oh, you need to make TikToks.
And you're like in your house with like no hair and makeup in your sweats trying to put your kid to bed and you've got a billion things to do.
You're like, it's not happening.
It's not my priority right now.
Yeah.
Content in there.
It's hard.
I find that sometimes I'm like, you know, sometimes you're like, oh, I need something interesting to be going on.
And a lot of the time when I'm not working, it's like it's not really happening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm not out doing something.
And actually just kind of parenting can.
It's like, yeah, it's a distraction.
and this other thing when actually
you've got real life happening here.
Yeah.
You know, it's difficult sometimes.
Totally.
Yeah.
How are you feeling about the album?
I'm feeling good.
I feel like there's a
sense of, yeah, the fact that it's coming out,
I feel this relief actually.
That went for when it about it,
I'm really excited for people.
I'm excited for people to hear the whole thing
because choosing singles is difficult.
I know.
Isn't it?
I know.
I know.
And you're just like, well,
You know, deciding which ones are going to be first and what gives you a sense of the whole album and how do people lead into it.
I find all of that, like, you know, that's why I end up calling things tiny raisin and stuff.
I feel like I find all of that quite difficult.
Why did you call it Love Land?
Because that comes quite low down on the order of the songs.
And there's a, is there a line about Santa Fe in there?
Yeah.
Yeah, what happened in Santa Fe?
So that actually, that title came from this article that I read about,
Cormat McCarthy's
kind of muse
and she had like finally spoken out
and she'd never really
kind of like written anything or spoken about
their relationship before her name's Augusta Britt
and you know when you're just like completely
taken by something that you read and there was
a line. Oh it looks gorgeous
mom. Wow.
Oh I can smell
like gorge mum. Perfect.
I'm just looking at home cooked food
like amazing.
Thank you.
Mom, thank you.
That's so American to have like bread rolls on the side.
It's yummy.
Mom, this looks delicious.
What is it?
Hope so.
It's a chicken mango salad with sober noodles and a peanut dressing.
Delicious.
Hope it works.
Absolutely heaven.
Just try.
Thank you so much.
Pleasure.
Look at these lovely shredded peas.
Oh, yeah.
That's what they said to do.
That is delicious.
So tell us more about this article that you read, and you hadn't heard about, oh,
Augusta Brit. So yeah, that was where the title came from. So the title in a funny way, yeah,
it was sort of was really just taken by this woman who'd like inspired so many films and so many books and was kind of like shrouded from the public.
And I was really touched by it. So I sort of wrote this song for her and from her perspective. And it was all based in Santa Fe, which is strange because, yeah, but there was something. I don't know. I don't know if you ever have it.
It's like it's not my story, but there was something in it that I very much deeply connected to.
And there was things from my past that I felt like connected to into sort of this like obsessive relationship that had like spanned like a long time.
I was really taken by it.
So that's that's where Loveland came from.
I love that.
Yeah.
This is so tasty, Mum.
You like it?
I love it.
Was it easy?
This is like perfect peanut sauce as well.
Where's the chicken last night?
Could I have a breadbought, darling?
He raced a whole chicken.
Okay, lovely.
I thought it was easier.
So, okay, let's go back to the last supper.
So we've got a Coke, a Coca-Cola full fat.
Oh.
And where else, what else are we doing?
What are we going to do?
The last supper.
Starter.
Starter.
Maybe we would do, I like things with radishes.
Okay. What, like a little like crudeate?
Yeah, nice old crude deta.
Like a kind of green goddess dressing.
I think I would go back to things from my childhood.
Maybe I really like hummus and Taramazilata.
Taramazilata.
Where, no one has it anymore though.
They do.
Do they?
Yeah, they call it Cotsarow now.
So you don't ever get it called.
Taramara.
Oh, okay.
Don't you feel like.
It's always whipped codsero.
Here we go.
Taramama.
Thank you.
Love Tarima.
I just haven't heard Taramazilata in ages.
and I used to eat that all the time.
Have you tried your daughter on it?
Not yet.
Maybe a bit of pizza in Tarama?
Yeah, no, she'd love that.
Coolness.
Definitely into there.
Better.
Is she not fussy at eating yet?
No, she's quite good.
I'm quite happy about that.
I'm nice.
Enjoy that moment.
Because you don't know when it's going to change.
That's what my best, someone told me this piece of parenting.
Oh no, they said something at the beginning.
They were just like, nothing's a straight line.
And I'm like, well, that's like kind of like the best piece of advice I've got.
It's just, you never know what's going to happen.
Yeah.
I think that phases come.
Totally.
Totally.
So, okay, so we're going Tarima.
We're going Dix.
A few radishes, maybe a bit of pitter in there.
Fine.
Hummus.
Yeah.
I'd love like a fish taco, I think.
Oh, okay.
Well, is that from being in L.A. so much.
Have you had great fish tacos there or Mexico?
Yeah, I love, yeah, that they do do great ones in L.A.
They do good ones in Notting Hill, actually, though, it was really into.
I really?
Yeah.
is tachorea.
Which has now been changed.
Has it?
To tack.
Oh.
And Japs and Boxes gone in on that.
Oh, okay.
Mm-hmm.
No, great tapos performed.
So we've got, we've got the starter.
We've got the drink.
We're going to have an alcoholic beverage or are we going to just stick to Coca-Cola?
I think we could have a nice, like a son-saire or something.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Lovely.
A glass of wine.
With what?
With, is this, are we on lunch now?
We're on mains.
I think we might just have a massive bowl of...
If it's the last one, should we just do a spaghetti bolognese?
Oh, lovely.
Love shit.
Should we do?
Yeah, a carbunara.
We could go really cheesy.
So Italian is your go-to?
Yeah.
Oh no, you've had and you did a taco.
Was that like a pre-mead tacos?
If we're just going mad.
Yeah, let's just go mad.
Yeah, we could go.
I felt like the dick was like a pre-star.
I sound like I don't eat any.
kind of like special good food but I really I'll sort of eat anything I'm massively appreciative
of just yeah I'll sort of do all of it and I might throw some sushi in there as well if we're
just going to go fine what black cod yeah delicious so I feel like maybe you've got a sweet tooth
I yeah okay so where's is pudding what we do so maybe an apple pie would be great
sticky toffee pudding obsessed with that like a good custard
Yum.
Situation.
What did I have?
I had a homemade blueberry pie.
Can't I buy custard powder in L.A.
Really?
No.
If you need to have custard.
So what does everyone do with custard?
Maybe make it come scratch.
Do they not have custard?
She can't get custard powder.
Just take it with you if you need it for your trifle.
Yeah.
At the moment you're taking your alpin and your custard, your birds.
I've got my suit go.
Yeah.
Full of custard powder in Alpin, yeah.
Where will you go on holiday?
Will you have a summer holiday or are you too busy?
So I had
I just did the countryside for
I've sort of been doing
This sort of holiday in July
Has been going to mum and dad's house in Hampshire
Which really, I mean the weather right now is
Yeah
You know
And they've got a pool
They do
Oh that's great
Yeah
Well I'd be there the whole time
It should be there this week
Basically
And then I just went to a
A friend's house in Hampshire
Last weekend
And they had a pond
like a sort of pond with fresh water in it, which was...
They were Icelandic, so they're all about being in the pond.
I absolutely love that.
So, yeah, it's more just been countryside weekend sort of stuff.
And then, yeah, and then I guess the rest of the summer will be coming back to London.
I'm doing like a break between...
I've got two stints of tour and then I kind of come back for a month in the middle of it.
But the annoying thing is, yeah, Rob's working all the time because he's shooting Batman, so he's in like...
like every day.
Of course he's the Batman.
Are they filming it here?
Oh yeah.
Does he have to speak to you like this when he's in character?
He doesn't to me.
No, I think he's a very good Batman.
I have to say, I think he's a top Batman.
He's amazing.
But yeah, he's doing that, which gets in the way.
I'd ask him to bring the costume home to be there.
Gets in the way of the holiday plans.
Yeah, that's a convenient costume in this heat.
Oh my God.
Yeah, it's a really heavy costume.
It's a big, it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
It's pretty like...
And he's just rode across the world in the Odyssey.
Yes, he's rode across the world.
Oh, my God. Or around the world.
Around the world.
They did. They did that in so many different countries that movie.
So will...
Oh, God.
Will you take your daughter on tour with you?
We're living on tour, baby.
Yeah. She's been on tour bus yet then.
Two tours.
Two tours.
Yeah.
She went to her child.
Yeah, six months old she went.
And then, yeah, yeah, she went on the one that I supported Levei last year.
What is she like?
She's fab, isn't she?
She's so amazing.
Yeah, she's, I learned so much from her.
Really?
Yeah, she's cultivated.
She's, yeah, she really, she's just, like, really understood how to, like, cultivate everything to her niche and grow this, like, huge audience.
She's insanely talented.
Like, it was, it was, I was amazing.
It was really fun.
I really like opening for people.
sometimes actually and going of completely being in their world, watching their, you know,
watching how they do things and it not all being on you. I really liked. What did you,
what did you learn from Taylor Swift? What do I learn from Taylor? I mean, I feel like I'm,
you learn things from her all the time. Right. Do you know what the best, this was one thing I just
always, I mean, I've been friends with her for a long time. So, but she's, she's so,
talking of table manners and manners, but she's so, she's so, she makes people feel so,
special.
She just always goes above...
Oh, she's one of those people
and you feel you're the most important person in the world.
She really does.
And she, well, she, I remember,
one thing I remember about that opening for her
was getting in and having this,
this note written to me.
There was really sweet and heartfelt.
And, yeah, you know,
you get like flowers in a note.
And you just get these little things that, you know,
get to take home and remember that.
And she just is really,
I've always, I've always noticed.
that about her. She like really takes the time to thank people and she really notices everyone around
her and gives them their flowers which I think is probably you know so much of what we do is about
not just us but our team. Oh my totally. It's so much it's such a group effort. Yeah. I think that's
one of the things that I've I've learned about her is just like how much grace. I think you know I went to
the Harry Stiles show on Friday and his team and him and it comes from the top. It does. It
It does.
They are so incredible and it makes such a difference.
There's no ego.
There's generosity.
There's like consideration.
And I can so imagine that Taylor does that so brilliantly.
Yeah.
Ready for dessert?
Yes.
Oh.
What have we got?
A gooseberry tart.
I can't believe how lucky I feel.
You're so sweet.
No, I'm like, I cannot wait.
I can't wait.
Let's hope it works.
A gooseberry tart.
Homemade gooseberry tart.
It's ridiculous.
I know.
And did you make your own pastry?
I'm sure.
Because the pastry has elder flouring.
So how long does that take you to me?
Yeah, this is all a bit messy actually.
Oh, God.
That's okay.
It will taste delicious.
It will taste like custard.
It will taste.
It is a custard.
Hold on.
I'm doing it from the wrong side.
Oh, no.
Well, a bit of a hand.
Sorry.
Okay, sorry.
Sorry.
So it's a Gusby and custard tart.
Absolutely brilliant.
This is oozy but deep.
Extra crem-freshal cream.
I feel like it's creamy enough, Mum.
This is really nice.
It's slightly underdone, but it's kind of delicious.
It's absolutely delicious.
It's supposed to be like this.
Oh, really?
Wow.
Okay, well, it's yummy.
It's yummy.
It's great.
The gooseberries are so delicious too.
Maybe I do like this fruit.
I feel like I haven't, I can't think of the last time I even would have come by it.
gooseberry.
Goosberry fool?
I don't think so.
They said to cool it completely, but I would have put this in the fridge to set a bit.
Oh yeah, maybe.
Maybe it's just too hot today and so it needed to set in the fridge.
Oh, the pastry is so good as well.
Taste is yummy.
Yeah.
Wow.
I remember this one time.
It is delicious.
A year or two ago, me and Rob tried to meet dinner,
lunch for his sister, who was coming around.
And it's sort of this famous story.
Do you ever, I looked up this recipe about, it was like a salad with baked strawberries.
No.
Do you guys ever bake strawberries?
No.
No.
That's not a thing.
Like a roasted strawberry.
Yeah, because some people do it with balsamic or something.
Strawberry's in the oven.
Right.
It looks delicious.
Okay.
But yeah, it's kind of gone down as this quite infamous story about our sort of.
In the kitchen, just carrying out these sort of.
Like oozing baked strawberries.
What's more?
Yeah, I honestly, I would have more.
Yeah, do it.
Did it taste good?
I thought so, actually.
So why is it an implement just that?
Was it a Bridget Jones moment?
It was a bit of a Bridget Jones moment.
I think they, yeah, I think they were just confused.
But I would like, yeah, I'm just asking you guys, like, do you, that's not something that you.
Have we ever had a, what?
You guys don't.
You have disasters, yeah.
With strawberries.
Not with strawberry.
No, I mean, with strawberry.
But you never bake a strawberry.
I've never baked strawberry.
Okay, fine.
But you've had disasters.
On the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had to order him.
Yeah.
Suki, where do you buy most of your clothes?
Are you vintage?
I really love, at the moment,
Love's Lane on Watervello.
Going there a lot.
That's a vintage.
Oh, you like vintage.
Got your microphone covered in Gooseberry.
Yeah, I do like my vintage.
Yeah.
I mean, at the moment, I've been getting quite interesting.
That's not vintage.
This is like charity, kind of charity shops.
Oh my God.
Yeah, I've been getting quite good at going around.
And then there's this website called Vinted.
Oh, I love Vinted.
I mean, love Vinted.
What is your kind of for you page on Vintage?
Like, what are you getting fed a lot of?
I think like I'm trying to, I'm always trying to find like a sort of cool, comfortable, but interesting jacket.
Okay.
Like a sort of cropped jacket.
You had a good cropped jacket on the Zimmerman performance.
which by the way was really brilliant.
Oh, thank you.
That crock jacket, that looked fab on you with the kind of jolet thing.
Yeah, like I'm getting into a jolet at the moment.
I just found a great jolet on vinted.
It's sort of, yeah, like thin,
and then it's got like a little bit of a fluffy coat.
I love a little bit of a fluff.
Do you barter?
Not really.
I'm a bit of like getting, get out.
Yeah.
And then there's a website called grailed.
I'm on that quite a lot.
Yeah.
And then first dibs sometimes for clothes.
I thought first dibs was for art.
They have like some.
pieces sometimes that you can get all like jewelry and little like yeah they do have things but a lot of
that I do go on Instagram a lot and find vintage sort of sellers and stuff that I quite like um yeah I can
I can shop I can shop I'm shop you drop yeah do you think there'll be a sequel to Daisy Jones no because
it's a limited series I know it it's such a shame yeah I know we tried to go on
cluffin yeah I think he's gorgeous yeah well I've worked on I actually
She worked with him.
The first movie I ever did was this film called Love Rosie, and I was a model at the time,
and my agent said, he was always trying to, like, find me something else other than modeling to do,
because he was like, you're just not very good.
So he was like, you should be a stylist or he was sort of helped.
I think you're, no, but he was helpfully trying to like, yeah, I wasn't, you know,
yeah, he was like, you should expand.
So he, and I was, I always had quite a lot of energy and I hadn't acted before, but he, um,
he said, why don't you go to this?
There's an audition.
They're trying to find,
because the girl in the movie plays sort of a model.
So I went to this audition and got the film
called Love Rosie with Sam Plyflin and Lily Collins,
which was such a crazy,
like, look, and the movie's kind of great.
It really stands the test of time.
It's like quite a really hard.
It's called Love Rosie.
I must watch it.
Is it a Roncom?
Yeah.
Great.
I love a long call.
Right.
In the 2000s.
Great.
So that was, and I kind of play.
I'm like kind of like the villain in it
and it was great fun so I hadn't seen Sam
not that much since that movie so I think it was like a
decade after that we did Daisy Jones and the Six together
before we let you go yeah it's been completely wonderful having you
oh thank you guys so much
a nostalgic taste that can transport you back somewhere
a nostalgic taste oh
golden syrup
oh wow do you remember having golden syrup a lot
I've accidentally got some in my house
And you have it on porridge?
What did you have it on?
Yeah, on porridge.
Pancakes?
Pancakes.
That's just obsessed.
It's so thick.
I know.
But as a kid, I was all about the goncerra.
You like sugar sooky.
I do, I do.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Good luck.
Thank you so much, guys.
I also just good luck with tour and congratulations.
Thank you.
This was so lovely.
I feel I'm so great.
I'd be able to come on this podcast and get this lovely lunch.
Such a pleasure.
You were a fabulous guest.
Oh, thank you.
Sorry, it's a bit gooey.
No.
I mean, we managed to finish it, didn't we?
The portion size.
So you're a Guzby fan now?
I actually think I'm a Guzby fan.
I was like, yeah, no, they're a bit furry.
That was great.
I'm a Gisby fan.
Yeah.
Mum, that was such a delicious landlord.
I loved it so much.
The chilies didn't make you feel too hot.
No.
They did me.
Oh.
Yeah.
I had to pull them all out.
Oh, no.
I really loved it.
She left her chilies as well, I noticed.
And I got the, yeah.
extra mild ones because they mention Fresno chilies.
Never heard of a Fresno chili.
Why don't next time you just not do a recipe with chilies in?
Because I thought everyone else seems to like chilies and serracha.
Saratja is quite like hot.
Yeah.
If you don't.
It was only half a teaspoon of saratia.
Okay, mum.
That wasn't a lot.
It was so yum.
Good.
And the roast chicken was beautiful.
It's worth roasting the chicken rather than, yeah, a whole roast chicken.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
All right.
So good.
Suki loves it.
The custard had not set, but...
No, it had set.
It was a goose-bri and custard tart.
It said, taste out the oven, and leave it at room temperature.
Yeah, but I don't think they realised it was 30 degrees.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But it was...
Yeah, it's hosher than them.
It should have gone in the...
It doesn't matter, actually.
It was so good.
Yeah.
I really felt like we were in the quaint English country south.
My pastry.
Paul Hollywood was cooked.
It was really good.
Yeah.
Not a soggy bot.
No.
In sight.
Not a decaying bot as a Suki.
That was a brilliant story.
Kaying bottoms.
Thank you to Suki Waterhouse for coming on the podcast and being such a fab guest.
Suki Waterhouse's album, Love Land, is really fab, and you should go and have a listen.
And I would just once in my life be able to wear a skirt like she was made.
Oh, I know.
I would only ask for one day, give me a little bit.
an hour, God, of wearing a short skirt like that.
I know.
Yeah.
So gorgeous.
Just throw it together.
She's just got style running through her base.
We'll see you next week for more podcasts.
