Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Bonus Episode #3 | 11.4.18

Episode Date: November 4, 2018

Hey, kid! Are you ready to LEVEL UP with the OFFICIAL PLAYER'S GUIDE to Pepper Mill Rondo's breakout debut "E.D.M." on Hausu Mountain?! For an hour and 40 minutes follow HausMo founders Doug Kaplan and Max Allison (aka: P3PP3R R0ND0) on an exhaustive and encyclopedic track-by-track analysis of their bellicose and HIGHLY ILLEGAL!! pillaged sound rammies!! Discover the vape reviewers, Parrotheads, and Chili Peps that fuel this HIGHLY ILLEGAL!! action!!!

Yeah, let's do it. We have our headphones plugged in. Yeah, we have our headphones on Max's computer to listen to it so that we'll hear it in the background. Okay, so are we pressing play at the exact same time? Wait, you're not playing it off the tape? You're playing it off the computer? No.

We could play it off the tape, but it might be hard for you to hear us. We can pause on the flip. Yeah, we'll pause when you flip, and we'll redo the go. I'm sure by then it'll be loose enough that it won't matter that much. All right, ready? Let's go. Tabs out. Bonus episode.

Too spooky. Way too spooky. Got it. Nice. Hey, we're doing all right. So I should probably say who I'm talking to. I'm going to turn the tape down just a tiny bit here. I've got to go into the background. Okay.

Well, why don't you guys just introduce... You know what? Should you introduce each other? Maybe that's what should happen. Sounds great. Okay, the youngest one. The youngest one, introduce the other. I would say a little bit about yourself, a little bit about them.

Okay, so this is Doug Kaplan. He is a cancer, and he lives in Logan Square, Chicago. He's a musician and label co-owner and general MS guy and likes a lot of weird stuff and is a freak uh here i am doug caplan just previously described now describing my best friend max allison he is lovely 29 years old 28 years old oh do you want to start over no No, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. He is as mature as a 29-year-old. You act a lot older than he is.

I'm 28 and three quarters. Oh, big boy. I just think of Max as me minus one of age. Not minus one of anything else. Probably plus one of a lot of things. And yeah, I love love him he lives with me we live together we love tapes um we're pepper mill rondo fucking pepper mill rondo yeah what is this prop i went on you sent me this tape hasu mountain number 69 by by the way hilarious

number yeah we know hilarious number we run the label hasilarious number. We run the label House of Madness. We just talked about the label. I think by now, I think we got it right. Everyone knows who you are, right? Or should we... Did we screw up the intro? It's a mystery now.

There's no mistake. This album is 100 minutes long. There's no such thing as screwing up the intro. This is like jazz, you know? There's no wrong notes. All right, Mike? That's so deep. This is like jazz.

Let me ask you a question, though. There's a sound clip or there's a sample or two on here. There's at least two samples on here. How many would you say maximum are on here? I mean, we definitely, in our lore that we created ourselves, we said that it contains 420,000 samples. But in actuality, it's probably like, you know, oh, we said between 69,000 and 420,000.

Thank you. So probably somewhere in that range. It also depends on what you consider a sample. Is one tiny instance of sound, is that equal a sample? Or is each sound source a sample? Yeah, yeah. Is each sound source considered a sample?

I would say that if each sound source is considered a sample, then we have a number of thousand, like a couple thousand or something on this album this first track that you're listening to is one of the tracks that is me and doug together as a duo recorded in real time with uh doug playing youtube youtube on his laptop and me playing um cassette tape like that has samples loaded onto it and then looped through a loop pedal. So we're basically each spamming samples from our own

sources. So how much of this shit did you record together? And how much did you just totally didn't even see each other? About half and half, I would say. Yeah, for sure. There's a number of different types of tracks in this album

that are noted in the album artwork by the color of the track name. Wait, how does this work? Okay, walk me through this. Because I envision this interview right now being like a player's guide to Pepper Melrondo, EDM. Oh, yeah. Right? So walk me through. we got this j card now yeah so

you'll see all the track names that are listed on the on the like interior panel of the front and uh we're on a yellow track right now called durian all of the hullabaloo the first track and the yellow signifies that it's d and Max duo improv in real time. Ah, okay, then what's the blue? Blue is me, Doug, solo, while red, the darker red, is Max solo. And then the pink is another kind of collaborative track, which is one of us singing karaoke, while the other one is controlling a large rig of electronics collaborative track, which is one of us singing karaoke,

while the other one is controlling a large rig of electronics that the outputs are running through. So the purple or pink tracks on the track list, the karaoke ones are also recorded in real time as like live takes, but using the karaoke machine as the main kind of like instrument. And Max records all of his stuff in real time too. My stuff is, some of it is real time, like live improvised on the computer, but a lot of it is collaged and edited and done in a slow manner.

I'm pretty sure that we're about to crest into track two here, which is called I'm Sitting in a Room. I'll let Doug explain this because this is a Doug track. I actually want us to dip out for a minute and let that play. And then I want to talk to you. Doug, if you made that track, I think you should get a Pulitzer for it.

Thank you. Wait, did it start? Yeah. Okay, hold on. Let's dip out for a minute. Yeah. it start yeah okay hold on let's dip out for a minute yeah And going to play it back into the cloud Again, again, again, again Until the residents Perhaps this exception of rhythm is destroyed

What you're wearing here There are the natural resonant frequencies of the clock Articulating my speech I regard this activity not so much as a demonstration of a physical fact but more as a way to speak out

than it regularly my speech might have Ready for regularity My speech, my how The track that we just got into is a mess Oh, are you there? Yeah, can you hear us? Yeah, I can hear you now I had you muted, were you talking that whole time? No, no, no

Oh my god, thank god Yeah, I had you muted the whole time to play that track now Doug walk me through this because I don't understand poetry that doesn't rhyme and now so explain to walk me through the entire creation and the the backstory of that track okay well I guess so I was a student at the School of the Art Institute in Chicago getting a master's in fine arts in sound. And one of the sort of like jokes in the department was that, that like no student could get through like the course without like listening to I'm sitting in a room like six times. And they just like joked about how like every single teacher will play that piece and say something different about it. And how like, it's just like the most like overblown

sound art thing of all time. Like heavily canonized. Yeah, just like, but like canonized to the point that it's like ridiculous, that it's like so much more important than other things. And I decided when I was really bored, this is when I was on a family vacation, that I would just make it all out of samples. And I just started mapping it out in my brain, just like thinking of the,

thinking of the words, wanting to pick like pretty popular songs for each word, but eventually settling for some more obscure songs. And just like mapping it out and thinking about like, I don't know, like, like just plugging in certain words and then going into like all these like janky song lyric websites and looking up words and i guess i haven't really explained it all because like the the piece um each word is just the text score and if you don't know the lucia score he reads the text score into the room and then records it and then plays back the recording until the resonant frequencies take over and it just sounds like a synthesizer basically and I did a performance of this where I sent it into

the cloud instead where I would just upload it into upload it into like the file sharing service and then download it again and continually do it over and over and over and over until it was just like a tiny little file but this is just the head which we thought fit in a lot better with the album than like an hour-long recording so this trick that we're on right now is a max track just because we're about to finish this track but let me say it's it's red so that's a Max track, right? I'm just seeing if I remember the code. Yeah.

Like a mystery. This track is all 311, Sublime, and Incubus samples. That's why it's called Brandon, Bradley, and Nick, because those are the names of the singers of those bands, respectively. Is it? I don't think I could have guessed that. Alright, so we're entering the first karaoke track here, which I believe is Doug singing Knocking on Heaven's Door

by Bob Dylan. Our karaoke machine didn't have any songs by The Grateful Dead. I was going to say the track's called, is this Jerry Mistia? Yeah, this is Jerry Mistia. Well, Jerry performs this song.

Yeah, both the Dead and the Jerry Garcia band perform this track. Oh, so this isn't a Seinfeld thing? No, it's definitely not a Seinfeld thing. I was going to talk to you about the Soup Nazi for a little bit. Oh, yeah, for sure. Does he have a Bob Dylan thing?

No, I think he's talking about that other job. No, no, you got it, Doug. Yeah, you got it.

Oh, now I got it. Yeah. So I'm like, so beyond like any other Jerry's having significance. Well, who's your, who's your second favorite Jerry?

My grandfather. Oh man. Number two. My favorite jerry might be the number one but he's definitely not a deity yeah but he's great i love you papa jerry so in these karaoke tracks you can definitely hear like me and doug's different approach to using effects because like i think doug has been more experienced with his guitar pedals and just like knows how to like you know phase and like distortion all the stuff whereas i definitely tend to focus on the loops and like the stuttering like rhythmic loops so you're hearing doug's voice right now processed in real time through the looper with like a lot of like glitchy effects

and stuff but i think that doug's d Doug's effects that he does for the karaoke tracks end up being more of a wall of throbbing noise. Yeah, I like to use a lot of filters and pitch shifting and kind of like emulation sort of effects. So that's kind of a lot of chipmunk-y sounds. Yeah, definitely. It's very fun to have someone, like, I mean, okay, so when the person is singing

into the karaoke machine, they can't hear the effects because we had either me or Doug wear headphones so we could hear our own vocal take, basically. So it's like we're listening to, like, you know, just the karaoke machine and singing into it, and the other person is the one that, like like hears the wet mix with all the effects. Yeah, I was just focusing on singing very beautifully. And succeeding.

Thank you. Have you guys done? Is this the first Peppermill Rondo tape you've done? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Is it the first time you guys have recorded with just you two together no like noise-wise yes but nothing really ever served i think we released

yeah like we did some sets together that were maybe more ambient in nature or like uh like just like long form droney stuff this is definitely when it's like there's a friend in town that's like oh can you can you play a show with us? And we're like, oh, we don't know. How about we just bug around? We're on another Max track right now, which is called Celebs, They're Just Like Us. All of the samples are celebrity singing songs that I got from YouTube.

So you can hear Jennifer Lawrence from from the hunger games right there. There's Emma stone. Brad Pitt features prominently on this track. It's just like, you know, a general like copyright nightmare overall, but our celebs, just like us.

Can you, can you listen to this without, without hearing each individual one? I pretty much hear, I mean, I, you know, hear i mean i you know i don't hear and i don't hear any of them individual individually i mean i just know because especially because all these are youtube clips in my head i kind of remember like the the visuals you know like i remember like oh yeah that was that jennifer lawrence one but then there are some obviously some elements i don't remember oh this right here is uh uh what's that guy's name max has an

impeccable memory by the way max has like a herculean memory that like is he's the computer but i mean also i forget a lot of stuff too but only stuff that i don't care about you know things i care about i pretty much remember oh there's a lot of Ryan Gosling on this track that's what I wanted to say things Max cares about Ryan Gosling I mean I don't really care about him that much I'm JK he's fine you know he's cool wait so in a second the track cuts out and then this guy goes like hello whoa and that's uh He's not saying LOL? No, he's saying LOL. I always thought he was saying LOL.

That's Brad Pitt's voice. Yeah, it's coming up here in a sec. Wait, we're not still synced up with each other, are we? Yeah, we should be. Mine, the track just ended. Did your track just end? Wait, is the guy saying hello, whoa? Yeah.

Yeah, so we're good. We're synced up. Oh, wow is i'm amazed right now that that worked all the tracks go into each other seamlessly and then some of them have like gaps in them so now now the new track just started yeah so were you able is this a pro dubbed yes yes it's a pro dub where to get oh we can't say we're not allowed to say it's a pro-dub. Where did it get to? Oh, we can't say it. We're not allowed to say it. It's a mystery. This is going to be a Netflix original series to find out where this was dubbed. Well, if you take a look at the tape shell, there'll be some clues.

Oh, my God. If anyone can track down a copy. Because these are only a dollar, right? No. Yeah. Aren't you selling these for a dollar? Yeah, which is below the cost just on our website they're a dollar on band game because you can't listen for free on our website it is the cost of

shipping that's tight just so if you if you want to buy one just to fucking bust these guys i'm gonna tell me because there's a lot of celebrities because they are just like us like you were saying could you name so i'm holding the j card and on the inside of the j card there's a lot of celebrities because they are just like us like you were saying could you name so I'm holding the J card and on the inside of the J card there's the select your player grid don't pick it up I don't want you to look at it oh yeah okay I want you to see if you can go back and

forth one of you name a celeb and then the next one name one and see how far you can get from the top left hand corner I don't know if i can do it in order i can't do it in order but you might be able to let down for my game yeah yeah that i i don't know we'll we'll we'll do it but it just won't be in the exact order of the j card and i made part of that j card and i can't remember the order because i often just like did that part without

um without like meaning necessarily i mean oh one one comment I will say is that everyone that appears in that J card has an appearance on the album like they're not just random like all the people that are there are sampled on the album well hold on I just want to say like a minute ago

you were talking up Max's intelligence like he was the smartest, he had the best memory of anyone you've ever met. So I go, okay, so I say naturally, I say, well, let's test that theory, and let's see how good this brain is, and right away, you fold?

Max's memory, I don't think, is a great visual memory. It's more like a great factual and event memory. Alright, start naming a great factual and event memory. Start naming these people and keep in mind, I don't know who a lot of them are. We'll alternate. We got the alien from Booba.

He's there. Jerry Garcia. Is that the blue one? Yeah, the blue one. Yeah. And then he said Jerry Garcia. I said Mariah Carey. Violent J from the ICP. Satan is there, I believe.

Yep. There is Trixie Kong. Ooh, Dixie Kong. Oh, Dixie Kong, sorry. Hatsune Miku is there. We got Anthony Fantano. The character Rem from the anime show RE0 is there. Brad Pitt.

Ryan Gosling. Ringo Starr. Oh, the kid that says, have you ever had a... The stuttering kid that says, have you ever had a dream? That kid. We got Elon

Musk. Owen Grimes. And we got Eric Clapton with his face X'd out. Yeah, Eric Clapton is not available. You can't pick him. Oh, I thought that was Tom York. Yeah, everyone says that. It looks kind of like Tom York, but it's just old Eric Clapton.

Yeah, it's like unplugged era Eric Clapton. I didn't realize Eric Clapton was as cool as a radio ad. That's pretty good for him. Yeah, he's obsessed with just like not that fm radio and getting it is convertible uh oh bob marley is there of course yeah definitely bob marley um let's think oh i already said ringo star right yeah has anyone said flea oh yeah fleas i mean they're in polyshore dido is there all right um let's see steve vi so i'm guessing so so max are you player there's a player one depiction

and a player two depiction on here and i'm guessing yeah and that that goes back to a complex like dating back to my childhood where when i had nes my older sister we would play super mario brothers 3 all the time and she would always be mario who's player one and i would always have to be luigi who's player two and i identify heavily as mario max is much more luigi like i'm and stout. He is tall and lanky. We are both hairy and plumber people. Well, here's my question. Here's my question. So you're player one then, right, Doug?

Yeah, I'm player one. So why is player one red, but Max's color on the tracks are red? Oh, that's a really good call. Thank you. Check that out. We collaborated. That's a very good call, Mike. That is a good, you know what?

It is. And I don't think we should gloss right by it. It is. It's a great moment in aesthetics questioning. Yeah, we collaborated on the artwork. We didn't link up on that, I guess. I can't believe it. I did that, like like select your player thing and i did the thing that

the text is on the star twins at the cosmic bad rainbow road and then i just did the traditional he put the text there and then we yeah we just didn't think about it that deeply that's a really good call though oh by the way the track that we're on right now is called i i'm a guy that makes classical music collages it used to be called look at me i'm a guy that makes classical music collages. It used to be called, look at me. I'm a guy that makes classical music collages. Why the change in title? I wanted to do that too. It seemed kind of mean, honestly. We like classical music collages.

So you thought, wait a minute. So you thought that taking out look at me would make it not mean? Well, no. Because, I don't know. Still a dick thing to do. Yeah, look at me as a different element. But, yeah, you know, this track's got like Luciano Berrio, Claude Debussy, all the old white dudes from the past, you know, that we know and love, I guess.

Well, we're about to enter a classic Doug track right here. Oh, yeah, this is a track that is all about vaporwave and vaping. It's that easy. What is this? Lesser artists borrow, great artists vape. Yeah, indeed. All right. That probably is true.

There's a lot of OPN. There's a lot of marijuana reviews. Yeah, there's some vape pen reviews and shit. Fantano is everywhere on this track, too. I kind of wish I didn't know. Because now all I can hear is that

before this was all just all the talking was just like a barrage. But now all I'm going to be able to do is like, here exactly what this is. I'm sorry to be ruining the magic by pulling back the curtain. I really like the,

I have a question. Voice just goes floral shop. Who is Patrick Clem? He's our, he's our go-to guy for mastering and has been forever. He's an amazing yeah he's incredible works out of north carolina um he does great work very quickly and has always just been our boy you want to get some hilarious feedback about this album he was like

he was like it made me feel like i was on like a monastic retreat but it's the opposite like let's pull this out yeah he was like this must be what it feels like to go on like a monastic retreat, but it's the opposite. Let's pull this out. Because this must be what it feels like to go on a silent retreat and just like, but instead of silence, it's like absolute noise. Tight. I'm loading Gmail to find Patrick's

quote. Shout out to you, Patrick. Yeah, P. Clem. You want to give a shout out to this person who gave you the karaoke machine? Oh, yeah Our friend from a long time she the karaoke machine is actually from the Philippines So it contains a lot of tracks that are like, you know, American pop songs But also contains like over 50% like Filipino pop songs in Tagalog so we didn't get into any of the Filipino songs unfortunately

I'm just seeing now what EDM stands for inside here yeah ecstatic dissonant mashup that was actually something we came up with pretty early in the process like we just thought it was hilarious to like you know make an acronym for edm

should we dip out for a little bit and let this tape play for a little bit yeah we'll let it roll for a sec vaporwave is incidental music geocities website template the windows vaporwave is the genre of music closely sandwiched what the hell is jesus these website templates. Vaporwave is a natural sound on the go. Vaporwave for another year. Give her a ribbon. See what happens. By James Ferrari. Innovape.info © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ ¶¶ Listen to the pipes there. That, uh... Jesus Christ. That's close to my heart.

I love Dido. Was Max singing that one? Yeah, and also, like... Holy... There's a part in that song that always makes me almost cry, like choke up a little bit. Let's hear it.

Where she's like, and then you handed me a towel and all I see is you. It's such a cute little moment. And every time it almost makes you cry. You've never cried though yet. Oh no, I've cried a lot to that part.

Oh, okay. The reason why I bring it up is because if you listen to that track, you can kind of hear me almost choking up when I sing that line. I'm like, like a little bit. I'm choking up too. I'm not even kidding at all. I'm sorry, because I don't know the song that well.

Are you saying hand them a towel? Yeah. What kind of towel are you envisioning? That describes her loved one. Or she gets home, and she's like, she had a really bad day, and she's covered in rain. And then her loved one gives her a towel, and it's this beautiful moment where she's like, I only see you.

And it's this cute moment of domestic bliss and union. It's cute. No, I get you, man. I get you. But what I'm saying is, what kind of towel is it? Is it a hand towel? Is it a beach towel? I would say it's probably kind of towel is it? Is it like a hand towel? Is it a beach towel? I would say it's probably like a ShamWow.

You think it's a ShamWow? Those are small, though. No, I mean, every good house kind of has like a pile of like kind of outdoor or like shoe towels, kind of like cleaning towels. Yeah. I mean, if like you were in the rain, that's probably like the towel I'd reach for. You know, I keep them clean, but like the towels I would use to like clean up, clean up like shoe'd reach for you know I keep them clean but like towels I would use to clean up clean up like shoe puddles

you know I was just going to say realistically if Max came back soaking wet from the rain and you had to give him a towel dug not like a joke like I'd give him right next to our front door like near our closet

I have like four of them. And they're kind of just, like, I would say the two of them are, like, old shower towels that, like, kind of got frayed. And then the other two are more, like, kind of thicker, more like, uh... I can't believe we're talking about this. I mean, it's important. I'm done. What is it doing by your front door? There's kind of, like, a storage area.

Yeah, there's a little, like, cabinet hutch thing that contains some towels. That has dirty towels in it? That has a dirty towel? No, they're clean towels, but used to clean up dirty messes. Yeah, yeah. You really painted a picture in my head of a dank towel on the floor. Everyone who walks in has to step over it. Yeah, they can't touch it. No, they has to step over it yeah they can't touch it yeah

they have to step over it because it's lava what are we listening to right now we're in the middle of another uh jug and max real-time improv duo track i believe it's called music photos calendar it's really good it's really good and this is like all at least on my end what i'm sampling is like all, at least on my end, what I'm sampling is like mostly teenagers doing reviews of their iPhones. What's with all the YouTube reviews? What is it about the reviews that interests you? In a lot of ways, like this album is like us kind of... It's like an attempt to like capture the vastness of the internet and all of the content that is constantly uploaded by like both amateurs and experts like to YouTube and how that like, how like a teen has the means of creation to like make their own like vlog whenever they want and how we're kind of doing justice to that or paying homage to that by just capturing these random moments of these people online like and like and like twisting it into you know sound or music or whatever i think we want to kind of like

realize the sort of claustrophobia and like paranoia that everyone has to go through like living in this like constant storm of information and news and content just being blasted at them at all times. And how that can be a completely crippling thing in the world, but people still persist upright. Listening to this album is a truly taxing and like mildly excruciating experience. And like that's definitely like the sort of anxiety that I feel. I don't know, I can't speak for Max. Yeah, I know.

I can't speak for Max's anxieties. Well, I would also say that like a lot of, like the idea of like density comes into play. Like how, like Doug was saying, like the world is so saturated with information. There's like tab browsing of like density comes into play, like how, like Doug was saying, like the world is so saturated with information. There's like tab browsing with like constant, like things are open. You're being blasted by a dense barrage of stuff. And so like the density of the internet is like the starting point that we would

try to aim for, for the tracks. So it's like the density of the tracks is like rising to meet the density of like the internet, so to speak. I've been trying to guess this whole time who Steve, Ralph, and Mark are. Yeah, okay. So Steve is Steve Vai, who you hear playing guitar here. Because it's actually from that movie called Crossroads, where like Steve Vai like plays like Satan or something. And he has a guitar battle with Ralph Macchio, who is Ralph.

And then Mark is Mark Knopfler because Sultan of Swing is also in this track. We should say that the name of the track that we're referring to. Yeah, it's called Steve Ralph Mark. Yeah, which is Steve Vai, Ralph Macchio, and Mark Knopfler. Those told him the swing himself. That's the only song I know by him. Yes.

Max? I don't know any other Daft Straight songs that I've ever sold in the swing. Was there anything that one of you wanted to sample and the other one was like, nah, you can't use that one? No. Yeah, just one. Which one? Hold on, hold on hold on wait wait wait

before you say it Max what the fuck you mean no you said it so quickly and then Doug was thinking the whole time well actually maybe we should tell him

but you were gonna try to keep it a secret yeah there was just like a cut of this Bob Marley track that I think we've just

both agreed saying it should be removed from it yeah for sure the Bob Marley track perhaps is like the the you know the dark heart of the album. Is it, well we'll talk to you when we get to it, but the Bob Marley track addresses like issues of like you know like cultural appropriation and like how Bob Marley's like you know like visage is like in products and exploited.

That's something that actually we feel pretty strongly about that's pretty bad. Bob Marley, Melody, has his image on it as if he isn't the most angelic, perfect. He doesn't want to be putting truckers to sleep. He just wants to rest in peace. Yeah, he just wants to be an icon of beautiful he yeah he just wants to you know to be like a you know an icon of beautiful music we'll get to this later yeah we're currently listening to max me sing uh neil young heart of gold right now yeah the whole like classic rock fascination is that

like that's part of like the the information blast like classic rock is so on blast and just like what what the music industry like wants us to consume more than anything yeah yeah like and like we have like max and i were kids that like bought into this like whole classic rock like marketing thing and like bought led zeppelin t-shirts at target and whatever yeah and like and like we're obsessed with like ranking bands and like guitar guitarist lists and that kind of shit. It's like, that now, I think, the major exponent of that is movie soundtracks. For every single superhero movie,

like Suicide Squad or Spider-Man, their soundtracks are still full of classic rock. Oh, yeah. Led Zeppelin, Queen, all this shit. Because the music industry is like, don't forget about this super profitable thing that we still have the boomers did something we had to give them some attention

for it and that's not done yet it's like we're still 50 years out and we still have to listen to Led Zeppelin in our movies you know I love how the hall of fame is something the rock and roll hall of fame is a thing do you think do you think like

once the boomers are all gone that the rock and roll hall of fame will a thing do you think yeah do you think do you think like um like once the boomers are all gone that the rock and roll hall of fame will just turn into like a panera bread or something once once a single member of fish is dead all of rock and roll is over they're like the last great rock and roll band this is doug's opinion not max's but like like stadium rock and roll like they're like the last great stadium rock and roll band do you follow do you follow around fish do you follow around the country oh yeah last night i saw my 50th fish show and what's interesting is that this track very much relates to my personal fish fanship that this track um pairs the speech that violent jay from the Insane Clown Posse made

before the Juggalos did the march in Washington. Oh, I forgot that happened. Yeah, it's great. It's amazing that it happened. They were protesting the FBI considering them a gang. And it pairs well with someone talking about their Jimmy Buffett fanship and talking about their Jimmy Buffett fanship through telling this experience of their son talking about

how you basically should just have a lot of fun because you could die at literally any moment. Basically the son is like, yo-ho. The son is like, we'll be the son says we'll all be dead soon enough

and that's why. Explaining why he got into trouble. But it's an old guy talking about Jimmy Buffett. And I was just thinking about fanship and how you can be a parrot head and just have this totally carefree existence and just get into trouble and just be like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm going to die soon. Or you can be like a juggalo and just love just like get into trouble and just be like oh i'm sorry like i'm gonna die soon or you can be like a juggalo and just love a band and actually be arrested for like representing your love of this band yeah and honestly as someone who's seen both insane clown posse

and jimmy buffett the juggalos are much better behaved than the Parrotheads. Yeah, big time. And it's just, like, a totally classist and, like... And racist. Yeah, and racist. Based on, like, the notion of, like, hip-hop as, like, a black art. Even though ICP are in black, you know, it's like... Yeah, I agree with you. So it's just crazy that, like, it's basically the same thing. People are just celebrating their love of these bands,

but, like, one group has to go to Washington to, like, fight for their actual rights, are just celebrating their love of these bands but like one group has to go to washington to like fight for their actual rights while another group just to like gets to get drunk and get in trouble and be like i'm sorry dad like i'm gonna die so i can like bust out your car window well in defense of the parrot heads they did blow out their flip-flop yeah they've been through enough yeah yeah honestly me and doug seeing jimmy buffett was a crazy experience and the people there were just like a lot of like republican douchebags like wearing like polo shirts and like just getting wasted they were like they were like making fun of us for drinking water they were like oh it was 110 degrees at night it was the hottest night of august run me through

run me through how you make fun of someone for drinking water yeah like what was said i mean the guy was just like oh cool water bro like oh you're not drinking yeah this guy was actually like constantly the guy to sit next to us was like trying to like ascertain how high or whatever we were he was like which was like not very yeah answer he was like oh are you guys you guys smoking weed are you guys drunk like what's going on you guys on acid and we're like we're watching a musical concert so were you two like the weirdest two people at the at the jimmy buffett concert we were the only people that i could see rational truths yeah everyone else was crazy which makes us which makes us yeah which makes the weird one yeah everyone else is like literally just like pissing out beer at every

moment yeah i definitely afterwards i commented how like jimmy buffett in a stadium is just like a river of piss like yeah it's like disgusting like land shark like beer and like just like troughs with dudes like pissing it it's like oh and when we walked in we brought in bottles of water because every outdoor event i've ever been to lets you bring in sealed water and the security guard was like no water like it's jimmy's rule like as if like jimmy obama has this rule of like you can only drink alcohol in the shows or you have to buy the ten dollar bottle of water hey man jimmy parties i'm assuming we just slipped into nintendo legacy and this is hold on let me try to get it this is a pink track and that means it's both of you no max oh wait no ah you're right fuck so this track um it's called Nintendo Legacy because it contains sounds from every era of Nintendo to date. So like, you know, NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii, whatever the new one is, Switch.

I didn't know you know that. Yeah. That's really cool. And, you know, I tend to use a lot of video game samples in my own music, you know, like that I make solo. So this track is kind of pretty close to like what would be considered a mux track i think because like you know scrambled up video game sounds yeah what's going to say with all with the uh some of this stuff being i mean because the mr dug dug project and the the mux project is that how you say it yeah i knew i knew it i knew i knew it uh they

both border on like this kind of stuff so like yeah how did you decide that you were going to put something on here and it was going to be pepper mill rondo and what is pepper mill rondo uh well okay so first of all i think that at first in our brains we were like we're gonna call it mr doug doug and mux but i don't i just don't think that rolled out the our brains, we were like, we're going to call it Mr. Doug, Doug and mucks. But I don't, I just don't think that rolled out the tongue nicely. And it kind of like made it seem like, you know, it was like our, our different projects, like the, the, the implications are like the, you know, the backgrounds of those projects would have been carried over.

I liked this kind of blank slate where it's like, what is this? What is cover not Rondo? It's like a different thing. And I think that we're just kind of just going to use it as this band name for conceptual art projects for the two of us. Like, I doubt that our next album will be like another album with

69,000 samples. It'll be completely different. But definitely thinking about things more conceptually versus musically. Here is the track of me singing we belong together by Mariah Carey one of my absolute favorite songs ever this is one of these like all-time karaoke picks he does all the time at our karaoke party

yeah I find Oliver borrows this machine a lot and a lot of singing you have karaoke parties yeah yeah how does one of those I want to know how one of those goes I've never been to a karaoke party oh okay i'm gonna be totally honest a lot of our friends are like really just nice people that aren't like crazy ragers they're just like really sweet people rub it in my face that you have nice friends go ahead oh yeah i love my friends yeah it's very cute time we're just like all right who's turn is it it's like okay like and it's a very cute time. We're just like, all right, whose turn is it? And it's like, okay. And it's like, oh, we don't have that song.

It's cute. But, oh, in recent news, I just got tickets to see Mariah Carey. That's awesome. Yeah. It's on 3-11, 2019, at the Chicago Theater. It's going to be sick. That's awesome, man. Yeah, it's a pretty small venue for Mariah.

I didn't even know she tours. Yeah, neither did I. She's back in the saddle. What are you guys munching on over there? We're eating some cookies and cut up some pears. What kind of cookies are they? They're these kind of like Thin Mint-like cookies. They're like imitation Thin Mints.

By Keebler. I bought them because we were making jokes about Keebler. All week last week, we were making jokes about the Keebler. I bought them because we were making jokes about Keebler. All week last week we were making jokes about the Keebler albums, so I bought these because of that. But that's not anything about this album. Yeah. We're about to enter the falsetto portion of the Mariah track. You'll hear it here. Very hard to sing.

Max has a great falsetto. Oh, thank you. I'm waiting for it because I don't want to talk over it. Yeah, just apologies to the listeners because we're experiencing slight time drift. I knew I was feeling time drift. I knew I was feeling time drift i knew i was feeling it because if we're listening through uh headphones on a computer our deck doesn't have a good headphone out situation where we can sit at our computer so we apologize tabs out for not using a tape

we just had technical limitations that is kind of fucked up. Because let me tell you why. In my head, the beginning was going to be very ceremonious and we were going to both press play at the same exact time. Well, we did. But there might be drifts in that case too. It's kind of like I bought a boat

and I was going to break a bottle of wine on the side. Or champagne. What did they break on the side? Champagne probably. I don't know. And you on the side? Champagne, probably, yeah. I don't know. And you were like, well, we don't have that, but here's a sandwich you can rub on it. Wait, so you're currently in the track that sounds like a bunch of kid sounds, right?

Are you there yet? Just describe it. Define a kid sound. It's like boing, bring, bring. it's like boing yeah I'm there I'm there so this is a max track and this is all audio from the show Booba which contains

extremely trippy audio like as a rule have you seen the show Mike? No what is Booba? it's like Teletubbies rip off yeah it's a Teletubbies rip off where like there's these like uh alien creatures that look like these big like uh kind of like dumpling like like gumdrops with like these heads like these like fuzzy like alien like uh you know gumdrops and they dance around they have this big spaceship where they like change colors and stuff it's actually extremely

trippy show it's very strange it's like it's like teletubbies tries to be like kind of trippy with its like alien motifs but like boobah pushes it over the edge there's almost no dialogue either yeah like grandmama and then she's like be there and like at the end of every episode they literally they get sucked up into the sky and they go to bed in this like celestial tree as as seeds in the tree. It's crazy. So this is like a documentary. Yeah. No, I haven't seen that one yet.

Is that the blue thing on the inside? Yeah, that's the blue thing on the inside. It's a character from Booba that becomes the alien space seed and teaches kids very simple things about their relatives and who they are. the alien space seed and teaches kids very simple about like their relatives and who they are you're in the next track

right yeah this is a Doug track don't we talk about this this is just all about the Beatles and just how the Beatles ripple

through the world but there's actually never any real Beatles music playing oh yeah it's like one step removed Beatles music playing. Oh, yeah. It's like one-step removed Beatles music. Wait, is this, are we up to no more fan mail?

Yeah. So at the end of this track, you'll hear Ringo Starr speaking. And he says no more fan mail. It's a really famous video that you may have seen before where he's like, hello, everybody, I'm coming at you with peace and love to tell you that as of, like, next week, I will not be accepting any more fan mail. I'm getting old. I don't want to spend my life signing your fan mail. So please, like, no more fan mail with peace and love.

He's, like, angry about fan mail but still, like, just trying to keep up his, like, like peace and love to god and it's a really amazing video from like early youtube area era that is such a that is such a boomer response though to be like don't please don't stop listening to my rock and roll band the beatles from the but also i'm never going to read another one of your letters again. Oh, my God. That's so funny. But he's right. Like, once you're, like, 70 or something, like, you spent 40 years signing people's, like, little trinkets. Like, okay, like, I signed how many thousand trinkets?

Like, we're good. Just buy a trinket on eBay. No, no. I say he never, no, he never gets to stop. There's no rest. That's what I'm saying. Well, can he get Can he get an intern that is like his

Damien Hirst assistant? Yeah, that he can do. He can get two interns, one in peace and one named love, and then they can do... They can do the audit, but it has to be like, he has to officiate them to make them officials so they can handle it. Because that's but it has to be like a he has to officiate them to make them

like officials so they can handle it because i don't want just like a fucking like like a conveyor belt of ringo stars like signing shit no no it's gotta be like a kosher like you know kosher what do you call priest or something Rabbi, yeah. Go to your rabbi. Hey, let me ask you a huge question. What are we, if you're listening on the computer, how, or when I get, am I telling you when this is flipping or something? Yeah, exactly.

So we'll just. I'm so nervous. I'm so nervous. Yo, listen to this. So there's one track left on this side. We're just going to pause when we finish that track until you have the next side queued up, and then we'll start again on the next side. And because there's no gaps and every single track starts with a burst of audio, we're chill.

Yeah. We're entering the final track of the A side, which is called OP Fever. This is a max track, and I made it out of only anime series intro songs. But I try to find – there's this, like, trope in anime now where, like, all the intro songs, like, sound so much like Evanescence or, like, Nightwish where it's, like – it's like a nu metal song with, like, an operatic female singer. And it's kind of like, you know, it's like every single freaking show now that's like an action show has like an Evanescent style theme song. So this track, OP, OP is like the abbreviation for the opening song of an anime series. So this track has like, I don't know, 40 different intros. And you can hear how they all kind of blend together

into this paste of new metal and operatic vocals. But the main exponent of this style, kind of like the foundational example, is the show called Nana, N-A-N-A. It's like my number one favorite anime show ever. I've got like a Nana tattoo. And it's about, it's about like a girl that is the lead singer of like an Evanescent style band.

So she's kind of like the Ur, like a new metal, like anime girl. And on the tape shell itself, Nana appears like this character is on the tape show but not in the interior player select thing this is my favorite part of the song thanks man

Netflix has been trying to get me to watch anime for like six years now I never had anything that catches your eye? I don't know what Netflix has I have to get me to watch anime for like six years now. I never had. Anything that catches your eye? I don't know what Netflix has. I have no idea. I just watched.

They've been suggesting an anime category since I signed up for the thing like six years ago. And I never watched any anime. And I don't think I'm going to, but they won't take it down. What's up? What do you like? They gave you a survey. What's up? What do you like? They gave you a survey like 10 years ago, and they're like, what do you like? Maybe you're like, ooh, maybe I like anime.

I've seen Spirited Away once. I mean, I understand that there's this kind of stigma involving anime. A lot of people, they're like, I don't fuck with that. Our friend that we all know, Mike Sugarman, one time he was like you know people only like either the simpsons or anime and that's it and and we were like that's not true but then we thought about it and i was like i don't like the simpsons but i like anime you know like like regardless i think what he's getting at is this kind of like you know cultural

like uh entrenched idea of animation and i would just say that anime is like to me it represents like the most liberated like art form in that it's like supremely psychedelic like to the core has like the most amazing visuals and like pushes like what we know is animation into like all kinds of different like you know realms and also i would say the anime oh hold on i just paused it because we let us know when you're when you're done with the side and we'll do the switch i think we should all take a deep breath that we got through side a which is longer than oh my god i know oh yeah it's it's gonna it's gonna flip soon okay let us know we have we have it ready to go i think it might flip

and start with some silence possibly oh yeah so just let us know when you hear a sound and i'll press play shut up shut up i'm gonna screw up all right are you ready are you ready are you ready doug i'm ready i love you hold on i love you too but i'm so scared start it start it i i said it too late oh no we're great okay we're in oh no i in. Oh, no, I screwed up. It's okay. I know I screwed up. I ruined the podcast. Oh, no, we're great. I accidentally hit stop. I accidentally stopped the recording.

It started again. It's fine. We're good. We're good. Subscribe. Hold on. Subscribe or die. Or die. Which is a riff on the Ralph Records slogan, buy or die. Not skate or die which is a riff on the ralph record slogan buy or die not skate or die uh no not vote or die buy or die i use subscribe or die in our house of newsletters a lot as just like kind of incentive to die this album is all people talking about their patreon accounts or this song yeah this

video i think of the things as videos or sketches a lot of the time they're all like little skits This album is all people talking about their Patreon accounts. Or this song. Yeah, this video. I think of the things as videos or sketches a lot of the time. They're all like little skits, kind of. Yeah, this one's about Patreons. Yeah, and then kind of just like this comedic Charlie Chaplin-like stuff happening in between. Patreon is hilarious to me, just as a thing. I'm not dissing it because people people do use it to

like you know fun their lives yeah that's great but it's like it's like people like contribute to like some sort of project you're doing right yeah okay yeah it's like a service for like a crowdfunding thing right exactly but like youtubers are obsessed with it and are just like every big youtuber is like oh yeah like if you get to my patreon you get like exclusive snapchats and like and like content and like well i mean i think there's a huge divide between like that level of like you know a famous internet celeb that's like getting like you know like a hundred no like probably like 10 grand a month for like their internet shit and then the other side of the coin is like, it's like, you know, ambient like drone artists that has a Patreon that's only donated. Three people,

like one of which is mom. Yeah. It's like the friends of your mom, like give you like 300 hours of my drones, which is like, which is like kind of pathetic. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's like, it's we haven't given up on like the old school way of selling music quite yet. Right. Right. Let me ask you with the, with like all this shit, that's like, this is a collection of people talking about their Patreons.

And there was like the collection of like kids reviewing their phones and shit. Like what's the tipping point for when you see something that you've seen so many times that you make a track out of it do you know what i mean like do uh when i'm making this dub i'm seeing it for the first time as i am making the music right but other things like things that we love and are like trying to treasure okay so there's it's not like you've seen so many patreon videos that you're like it like creates a spot in your brain and you have to make one of these.

No, I've watched a lot of YouTube videos and everyone is always talking about their Patreons. So when I had the idea for that track, I just went and watched YouTube for like four hours and pulled all the best times where people were talking about their Patreons. And then the next day was like, okay, like time to make this into a song. Yeah. I think that like, um, for me, like the act of recording, the samples from YouTube that I use at the master source is kind of like the mediating like period where it's like, usually I'm just playing random shit from YouTube and I don't care what it is because it's not like, I'm going to like, from YouTube and I don't care what it is.

Cause it's not like I'm gonna like, you know, dissect it perfectly like Doug does sometimes. It's more like a feed of like random sound that can then be further randomized and like scrambled up. So it's like, I think that other than the idea, like Doug said, getting the idea for the song, like being like, okay, this one's gonna be about celebrities. Then I'll just go on YouTube and it's not like I,

it's all stuff I've seen before. It's just like, I'll just like type in like celebrity singing and then I'll just play straight from there into the tape, you know? So this track here is our Eric Clapton diss track. If we were like a rap band, like we kind of are, because there's a lot of vocals um then this would be like the track that eric clapton would like make a another track back like like southern man and lewis

skinner or something yeah like modern rap this is our this is our ether yeah we're ethering bro you suck you killed your son fuck you is that your main uh beef with eric clapton that he killed his son he's terrible he's terrible he's like who wants a fucking slow hand yeah yeah i love guitar players that like can play both fast and slow everything hand like it's like i don't know i think that eric clapton also has built his career on like numerous pillagings of like black music like blues like from day one you know yeah he stole george harrison's wife george harrison's the also has built his career on, like, numerous pillagings of, like, black music, like, the blues, like, from day one, you know? Yeah, he stole George Harrison's wife. George Harrison was the sweetest fucking man. Yeah. He stole his wife and, like, stole his wife and, like, wrote a song about it. Like, fuck you, Eric Clapton. Also, Eric Clapton's music is just all so, such a bummer.

It's all so, like, heroined out and, like and boring yeah and like bluesy like I hate all that shit yeah we don't really like the blues that much and then we like that real shit oh yeah I like real blues but I don't like Eric Clapton blues exactly like I like Robert Johnson and shit but not like you know not like 80 year old Eric Clapton like making another album

of blues covers in like 2016 you know he's not 80 you don't think an 80 year old millionaire with a bowl cut should sing the blues yeah that's what we're saying I don't know man I don't know about your wacky views man we feel very

passionately about how much you suck Eric Clapton sucks yeah no we got time to kill if you want to do like 10 more minutes on Eric Clapton I also appreciate that the name of this. Would you be a famousess of guitar? I mean, I'm telling you right now, am I not a famousess of guitar? Yeah, Doug has this like verbal trope where he calls someone a famous or a famousest of blank.

Yeah. Is it true that you are a famousest of ambient? Did you say that to like Rupert when you meet her? Like, oh man, you're such a famousest of ambient music. You're like, oh yeah, you're a famousest of like Kung Fu. So this is about him being a famousest of guitar, despite being a total hack and like untalented like child killer yeah do you think

his son comes back and haunts him yes yeah almost certainly but I think that he got a sick Illuminati deal which I also talk about during this track well at the end of the karaoke track you'll hear this robot voice go it's okay practice makes

perfect and that's like the voice of the karaoke machine grading our performance yeah yeah oh wait grade your performance yeah that can be dark though you don't want that to happen it's like sensor is like really like not not functioning so like is that what you do is that what you decided to tell yourself yeah yeah so so at the end of every take, it goes like, it's okay. Like, you suck. Brad just makes perfect. Yeah, it's like.

Because, like, it gives you a numerical rating out of 100. It's like, oh, yeah, like, I got a 20 on that one. It's really bizarre. Oh, here's another Doug and Max duo in real time. This one is called Lomini Piccolomini Piccolomini Piccolomini P. And it's named after a track which is sampled, named after a classic folk song that's sampled in this one a lot, which I'll just sing to you right now because you have some time.

Yeah, here it goes. It goes like this. Piccolomini Piccolomini Piccolomini Piccolomini Piccolomini P. Piccolomini Piccolomini Piccolomini Piccolomini. Hey. I can sing it now. And then you were singing faster and faster and faster. It's like you're going so fast.

Give that one more go. I'll give you some effects here. I'll make it fast. Yeah, go fast. It's like a vocal warm-up, right? Yeah, people use it as a vocal warm-up, but I think it's also just like, I don't know, I think it means peace and love in some language. It's very nice being able to, I'm glad I can watch you.

I'm like staring at you guys while we do this, by the way. I don't know if you know that. I must have given something to your Patreon to get this behind the scenes, the making of. Well, that means you donated 69 cents to our Patreon.

I do, and I do that monthly just in case. I only donate to one Patreon account. I pay them $1 a month and it's the account that translates this japanese reality show called terrace house it's like fan translations of this show that's only available in japan so do you read the subtitles in like a text document well no no you upload the subtitles to the video it's very cool what do you mean you upload the subtitles to the video file. It's very cool. What do you mean you upload the subtitles to the video file? How does that work?

You open VLC and you open a video file. You can go into the menu and select subtitle and then you can load in a file that is timed to the video. Right now you're hearing it on YouTube. It's.01 speed, which is something you can do in JavaScript, which I really enjoy.

You can stretch out songs and listen to them as slow as possible and turn like any prog song ever into like the greatest drone master. Yeah, true. We listened to Yes Slow Down for like an hour once. Yeah. Like at full volume.

It was like, wow. So you can get YouTube to go really slow when at like low traffic hours, but at high traffic hours, they limit you from doing it. And it's not like authentic stretching. It's like the one where they don't change the pitch. Yeah, the pitch is the same. The pitch is the same, but isn't it called a Paul stretch?

I think that's what it's called. It's like the pitch is the same, but the duration is spread across time. Yeah, it's a big time stretch. And I've never heard of this. You're saying it's a feature on YouTube, but it's not always there? Well, no. It is always there. There's always a feature there to do half speed, 1.5, double, something like that.

But if you just open up JavaScript in your browser and input this code, there's a code that you can use just to enter in any number you want. So instead of having it be like 0.5 speed, you can just be like 0.001. Yeah. And it'll just go as slow as it possibly can. But they limit your bandwidth, I'm guessing. I don't know how it works. Sometimes like in late night hours, like regular day hours,

you can get it to go super, super duper fast and get the audio and get it to go super, duper slow and get the audio. But sometimes you'll put in the same number and it will just give you no audio at all because it's just like overloaded. That's like a stupid, stupid request, I guess. But if you in any YouTube video in the bottom right corner, you can change the speed like you were saying to like normal things like half speed or double speed. But yeah, if you just look up like javascript youtube speed on your favorite browser you'll uh you'll be able to figure out how to do it really quick i have a feeling that's not true and i won't

be able to figure it out don't worry you're good at the internet mike yeah you'll be fine i know that you have a lot of jokes about the internet and stuff, but you're good at it. Yeah, that's true. And you can just give me a call. I'll walk you through it. Oh, yeah. Will you be my IT guy? Yeah, I'll help you out.

30 minutes free. What track have we slipped into here? This is a Doug track called Satan 666 Tool Shed Suffering. Yeah, this is one all about Led Zeppelin and backwards lyrics, backmasking, kind of like the whole Satan's presence in rock and roll, how people think that people are talking about Satan when they aren't, and Stairway,

which is kind of a prelude to another track that we'll talk about later. Yeah, for sure. This is the opening of the theme of St prelude to another track that we'll talk about later yeah for sure this is this is the this is the opening of the theme of stairway to heaven i guess there's also now now that i think about it like the like the knock on heaven's door is tied in too you know yeah and the idea of like so you think you can tell and the idea of death you know just literally like this being like brain death in album form and how like you know satan is like you know is there right here we have this scary to having beatbox and you're also hearing like kids listening to stairway for the first time

like describing their experience yeah yeah oh yeah there's something like like videos of kids who just listen yeah yeah it's like one of those like react videos and they're like he wants to go to heaven but he's like not quite sure about it it's like you can't like wants to go to heaven but he's like not quite sure about it it's like you can't like pay to go to heaven because that's bad I was ever going to be. They just blew it. Took it and ripped it apart. And reinvented it. And it's just, to me, it's been a miracle. To the devil. Unleash a chaotic curse on this band of brutes.

Can you reverse that? You hear a voice that says, here's to my sweet Satan. You lose your mind and those that you're in for. And then it brings you back down again. It's all kind of going, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm just gonna go back down again. Just follow along. Just kind of go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Regardless whether or not you feel like you're corrupted, like whether or not you feel like this is the road I am down to be on,

it says that no, that's not true. And you have free will. You can change it. This video is to explain why so many rich drugs to time for a thing. I don't know. I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm home, I'm smiling. I don't know. I'm going to to the New York Times, the two of them are in a relationship that is not a perfect match And the two of them are in a relationship that is not a perfect match And we are not in a relationship that is not a perfect match In what might be the most futuristic coupling of all time In what might be the most futuristic coupling of all time. In what might be the most obvious, the rupture crimes are inherently human and figuratively

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He told Rolling Stone, if I'm not alone, the program is bad. Sometimes, Max is all like, the FBI agent assigned to us probably thinks it's hilarious that we refer to them as So we're on this track that's a Doug track that's about Grimes and Elon Musk. Yeah, I made it on the same night that the news broke that Grimes and Elon Musk were dating. And I found the most YouTube poop auto-generated news videos about it. That almost all used one of three different of the same copy. The same exact copy on several different videos.

And just was playing with them live all together tab browsing experience for sure why would you give that poor man and any any guff after he saved those kids with his torpedo um submarine honestly i think like the way that i think about these samples often is like a lot more like neutral than that but it's more about that being a mega cultural event that broke the internet and broke, that blew everyone's minds and basically seemed like a simulated reality event. That was such a strange thing that, I'm not thinking about him,

I'm thinking about the symbol of it all and how ridiculous it all seems. I don't really care. Yeah, I don't have any strong feelings about you. Do whatever you want. Musker. He's a rich guy. Musker.

This track that we're in right now, that we might be in right now, is all Pauly Shore samples. Okay, all right. Is that what you're hearing right now, Mike? Are you hearing Pauly Shore samples. Okay. All right. Is that what you're hearing right now, Mike? Are you hearing Pauly Shore's sweet voice? I would say no, but sometimes it's hard to tell. I'm definitely not.

I knew this wouldn't work. I knew it. What? I said I knew this wouldn't work. I knew the sync up wouldn't work. Hold on So what are you hearing right now? Hold on

Is it a robot voice? Shut up I can't hear anything I hear you Okay It's just a bunch of garbage Just a bunch of garbage Yeah it's fine keep playing It's definitely not Pauly Shore no it probably is

well hold on so the next one after polyshore is called rxjp something you see that on the list it's it's a karaoke one yeah it's it's it's californication so if you're hearing me singing the chili peppers californication then we if you're hearing me singing the Chili Peppers Californication, then we're synced. But there's also a lot of just like... Yeah. I'm sure that... Yeah, I think that's what we got. Great.

Perfect. Well, yeah. The Chili Peppers are a pretty sick band, am I right? They have a ton of good hits, a ton of good bass vibes. Flea once watched Kiedis having sex with his sister from outside the window. What? What are you talking about now? This isn't that kind of show, by the way.

But what are you talking about? There's an interview where Flea describes that he watched Kiedis. I'm pretty sure Kiedis was the one, maybe a different member. Yeah. But he watched one of the other band members having sex with Flea's sister from outside of a window. So Flea watched his own sister having sex with, I believe, Keenis.

That's pretty disgusting. Yeah, Californication, bro. Is that what that song's about? Probably. That's off the record, though. I don't speak for Keenis. I only speak for the Rondo. What did they do? Dress up like light bulbs or something that would suck yeah yeah that was it lightning bugs i believe right or was it stink i thought of the band that makes the music video

on the treadmill oh yeah yeah that's them too to me the chili peppers like represent like me being like nine or ten years old and just being like, oh, yeah, I want to play bass. I love rock. These guys are so crazy. The Peps were definitely, I was into them when I was ten. Did you call them the Peps then as well? What?

Did you call them the Peps back then? No, probably not. Nah, probably not. Yeah, probably not. I wasn't a huge fan. And, you know, Pepper Melrondo, you asked us earlier what that means, and I can tell you, I don't even think Doug knows this. What?

Doug, are you ready? Wait, wait, wait, before you say it, Doug, what do you think it means? Well, if you Google Pepper Melrondo, it shows you exactly what I'm about to talk about. But he asked me the question. Yeah, so what do you think? I think it means you take all culture and you put it in a pepper grinder and it poops out this. Yeah, that's definitely true.

It's just the – I think it's the name of a special move of a character in this anime show called Food Wars. If you Google Pepper Melorando, it's like the second link is – Julio's? Julio's Pepper Melorando. I thought it would mean Julio. It's like a special move that this cook character uses where he spins his pepper mills around really fast. And it allows them to activate. The show is basically like a Dragon Ball Z style battle show.

But it's all like Iron Chef cooking battles. And they all have super power-ups and shit. Is there any of that in this artwork? Anything from that show? On the J-Card? No, I don't think so. Who are these goons on the jay card no i don't think so no who are these who are these goons on the on the cover uh those are characters from the the video games yeah that's us oh that is you okay yeah

we also take off our skin and get ready for bed on the next panel. We're having a slumber party. Yeah, yeah. Maddox has the long brown hair and I have the kind of shorter black hair. That's true. It's true. The iconography of those characters in the front is from this game called Shin Megami Tensei, or also known as Persona, which is like, these things are called Jack Frosts. They're kind of like the mascot the mascot like the pikachu of this like series it's like it's like a you know a pretty

common like thing what are we listening to right now oh yeah this is oh the poke is under plankton disorder yeah this is another doug and max duo track um i remember that my audio for this is is like a a speed runner talking about Pokemon speedruns. So that's probably where the Pokecenter title comes from. And I think I was sampling a lot of AIs trying to learn how to speak. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

There you go. We'll let this one play out a little bit. I forgot that on the first track, we didn't talk about this, but it was a Geo track. One of the things that we were sampling then was smelly food reviews. People reviewing smelly foods. Are there that many

smelly food reviews? Yes. Yes. If it's there, we can find it. So are there smelly food reviews that are good reviews? I think usually it's like... Good and bad is not a real.

Well, it seems... I'm just saying there's someone like, I got this hamburger, it smelled really bad. It smelled like it was rotting, but it tasted really good. No, no. It's more like people being like, I'm going to eat Lindberger cheese. I'm going to eat durian. Like a stinky cheese, like a foot cheese. I'm going to eat durians. Like a stinky cheese, like a foot cheese. I'm going to eat fermented fish.

Okay. It's supposed to evoke a reaction that's funny. Like, oh, gross. It's like we saw our favorite YouTuber. It's like when people eat the spicy pepper. Yeah, exactly. Spicy pepper. You know, yeah spicy pepper you know the spicy pepper

oh boys i think this tape is like driving my it's like i it's doing something in my brain have this in the headphones for the last like it's our goal are we all are we almost done yeah we are actually almost done. We probably have another 30 minutes. No, not 30. Thereabouts. Four minutes, three minutes. Doug, are you challenging Max's memory here? I thought he... We have like 21 minutes left, basically.

Oh, yeah, I can do that. But the last track is an eight-minute odyssey that is intense. What are we on right now? We're listening to Pocosense of Plankton Disorder. It's one of the yellow tracks. We're about to go into post-mass. You guys hunt these things? Yeah.

We like hunting Pokémons. Is that still going on? Are people still doing that? We were playing a couple years ago. Let me clarify. We don't play the Pokemon phone game. No. We like to look at the world when we're walking around.

You literally hunt them in real life. Yeah. Holy shit. We play the Game Boy, the OG Game Boy games. Yeah, we have these 2DSs. We both have them. We were playing it maybe two years ago. For a couple months, we got into it again.

Yeah, there was a reboot of like – I guess it never stopped. Yeah. We played like Pokemon Sun and Moon when it first came out. Continuation of Pokemon World. We're into it. We're hip. The Pokemon game is really fun. It's like an RPG game, you know?

It's like a classic like, you know. Yeah. And Mags. Mags puts together a great team. So does Doug. Thanks, buddy. I can't really stand Pokemon Go. I never had it on my phone.

I played it for like 12 minutes. Sick. When I'm walking around the world, I don't want to be catching Pokemon. I want to be looking at things. Stuff, yeah. On our side, we just entered the next track. This one is my track, Max. And it is... It's like all like post-rock, um, math rock and shoegaze songs, just like in a blender.

So this track is heavily like guitar focused. It has like, you know, guitar and drum like samples. Here's a nice little break during this track. It's got some chill moments nice you want to sit back and listen to it for a bit yeah yeah let's do it © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Call your travel agent or 1-800-JAMAICA. Are there any spirit beings present, please, who could bring forward the spirit of the reggae music star, Bob Marley please. Bob Marley, can you speak to me?

You just mentioned Bob Marley. I mean, I remember when I was in college, listening and not agreeing with his whole philosophy, necessarily, but. Bob Marley is a leader who made rainbow country made rainbow country so this track is by Doug and it uh and you can talk about it. Yeah, I mean, it starts with an ad from a Jamaican Cruise commercial advertising cheap prices, and then it cuts straight into this queasy zone where a dude is performing a seance

and trying to contact the spirit of bob marley and it just like gets down this like rabbit hole of like basically like the exploitation of bob marley and how like he's basically just become a symbol for weed a symbol for sedative tea a symbol for t-shirts and all manner of bootleg products. And then his face has just ended up in all these places and that he was just a really simple, peaceful man. Like he really just wanted to spread love with his beautiful music. And I don't think that he wanted this. There was that interview where he says that his power is eternal life. And I don't think that he wanted eternal life through like these products.

Yeah, through these like sedative products basically. Or like Bob Marley weed strains. Yeah. Well, I mean there's a fine line – or no, there's a wide margin between like a Bob Marley weed strain and like an artfully done, you know, like reissue or something. It's like Bob Marley can live forever through his music easily because his music is infinitely appealing on an elemental level.

But then there's this whole commercial... I mean, yeah. Also, quick shout out to Tabs Out legend Josh Milrod and his really amazing website, bobmarleyhats.info, which is no longer active,

but you can see it on the way back. It's not all about Bob Marley Hats. I can't believe it's not active anymore. Yeah, I think it's down. At least last time I checked. But, you know, last time I went to foxydigitalis.com, it was trying to redirect me to porn.

The internet just changes really fast without telling you. So when Max walked in on you, you were like, I was trying to go to Foxy Digitalis. Yeah. And now the lie is recorded. Going back to Bob Marley, I don't really know much about Bob's music. But I do know that he lived in Delaware for like six months,

so we have like eight Bob Marley festivals. He lived in Delaware? That's wild. But I mean, for a very short period of time. But because of that, we have like, we really milk it. We have like a couple, we have like three or four Bob Marley festivals. Wow. So can we visit you maybe in

this third week of April or so? You want me to try to get you on Wilmington's Bob Marley festival? Yeah. Did you name a list? Jim Sway? We're currently on a track. I think you're on a track now

that sounds like a video game thing, right, Mike? No, this sounds nothing like a video game. It's like dudes talking a lot about video games. Hold on. Let me hear. Yeah, dudes talking about video games. They're saying like... It's like the whole tape, though. The whole tape's like the whole tape though the whole tape's like that

yeah it never stops it makes you feel like stupid basically yeah i'm not gonna get to go to bed i already feel stupid but now i have this attached to it yeah this track uh is all oh yeah it's right there yeah this track is all um Oh, yeah, it's right there. This track is all speedrun samples. So speedruns, you know what that is? Oh, do I know what that is? Let me tell you, I am obsessed with speedruns, like watching them on YouTube. That's like the one thing on YouTube

that I can relate to all this with is speedruns. So this track is actually using all clips from the the games done quick event that happens every year where like it's like speed runs that happen live in front of an audience have you seen this before i have yeah i love it so a part of like those games and quick runs is like you know they talk about it they offer commentary the whole time like we're doing they're like for this part like you gotta press a like when you hit the wall and then it goes through so this track is just all you know people people talking in speed runs quick shout out to the youtuber summoning salt oh yeah amazing speed run history video have you seen these

yeah well i i've sold the one for like super mario brothers yeah yeah because i fancied myself i fancied myself when i was a younger man as a speed runner for super mario brothers the original one until like i saw like the videos of people who like actually do it and it's like no i can't do that yeah i did one time though attempt to beat Super Mario Bros. with never pushing the turbo button. And to just jump. And you can get all the way to the hammer guy at the end of The Last Castle. Oh, really? Yeah.

Wow. There's one... Not holding run at all, like not doing the run button, just jump? Yeah, just jump. Wow. I feel like that would be it would make it make it like impossible to clear certain parts but i guess not there's one jump in like eight one that you have to and i was so proud of myself but you have to like walk up to the edge and then

take a step back and then go and so when you jump across the gap you like hit off of like a little goomba that's fallen off and it pops you back up. That might be my shining moment. It's like a pretty speedrunner move, you know, like bouncing off the enemy at the right time. They're all about that for sure. I'm going to do slow running. I'm going to see

the longest you can go before it takes to be the game. Yeah. You know what I mean? A lot of those old Marios have clocks in the levels. You just have to wait until it's about to, like, tick down all the way. Yeah, but how many lives can you get

so you can let it click down over and over again? Yeah, I mean, that's true. It could just persist infinitely, probably. Like, you know, you could have, like, a three-month slow run. Oh, yeah, now you're talking. Oh, man, I'm rock hard about this. Infinitely probably like you know you could have like a three month slow run Man I'm rock hard about this one this this is a good idea Most of the games you have 300 seconds to complete each level I'm pretty sure and you can get a bunch of coins and you get a hundred coins. That's a one up

So if you have 300 seconds to get a coins then i think you're good but then there are also games like gta or banjo kazooie any game where you just leave your character there there's no like problem you know so the slow run can go on forever in that until the power goes out you're already making it too complicated i just wanted to do a super mario brothers one slow run and it's not just about how it could be infinite. Yeah, it could. But are you going to play it forever? Devote the time?

Yeah. At some point, you're going to give up. That's true. So who doesn't give up? Who stays in the longest? I see. And what do they win for it, dude? What's your prize?

That's a good question. What do I deserve at the end of all this? I'm going to tell you what you deserve is a big delicious pepperoni which is the only thing that i sample in this track is people talking about pepperoni oh yeah i forgot about that yeah doug's samples are all pepperoni related what made you even what like what would make you even look for people reviewing pepperoni pepperoni is one of my favorite words yeah doug says pepperoni a lot yeah it's a word that really just like rolls off of your tongue and into your heart it's just like so beautiful all the sounds yeah it's about the sounds for me i love hard and the roni it's like really fun say it again

pepperoni also pepperoni is the name of an earlier song and pepperoni contains the word pepper which is like pepper it's like a big pepper meal also chili pepper is contained in the word pepper I forgot about that earlier there's a lot of peps

alright Mike I'm proud to report that we've reached the second to last song no we haven't no we haven't this is a track made by doug that is just he's gonna know it's more friendship yeah it's just people saying the names max and doug in various contexts oh that's funny for the most part i want to hear some of it. Yeah, it's true. I love Doug. I think there's a clip from The Hangover in this track, right? Yeah.

Of one of the characters talking with her friend Doug. Singing a song about it. Oh, it's Ed Helms. Ed Helms singing about finding their friend Doug before, I guess, his wedding or something. I don't really remember the plot. Yeah, nor do I. Stabling like,

happy birthday, generic happy birthday videos that will make like, just like you know how you can go to like the Hudson books at the airport and buy like the name tags. Yeah. And they have like 300 like common names. The same thing, people have all these channels where it's like all the most common names

and like birthday songs. And it's the same exact song like 800 times just changing the name yeah yeah it's like judy i love you yeah so you can play them both at the same time and then it's just the names we've read yeah look at the japanese um all right i think we've reached the final track mike it's on bro this is a karaoke track this is stairway to heaven which is the only appropriate track i feel yeah i'm gonna bring i think doug's vocals really go hard on this like watching him like sing this in the basement like when we were recording this was a real treat because he was going deep.

I got really into it. He sings like a freaking hardcore punk singer, but it's his nonsense lyrics to Stairway to Heaven. It's pretty bold. There's a part in the middle where I do a full recantation of someone else's interpretation of the backwards lyrics of Stairway. You know about the backwards lyrics of Stairway, right? No, I don't. Okay, well, there's one portion that's really famous, which is the bustle in your hedgerow portion,

where people allege that the lyrics are... Oh, well, it happens when you play it backwards. When you play it backwards, the bustle in hedgerow part, it says, Oh, here's to my sweet satan the one whose little path would make me sad whose power is satan he'll give those with you six six six there was a little tool shed where he made us suffer sad satan and they're all there's so many different interpretations of backward stairway but that's like the portion that's

like most commonly agreed upon so people literally think that like that thing that Doug just said is like what they meant to hide in stairway. Oh, yeah. One of the most common things that people think is that the last, the very end of the song, and she's buying a stairway to heaven, which begins the backwards song, is play backwards, hear words sung. Play backwards. It's like play backwards, hear words sung. Play backwards. Play backwards, hear words sung. I believe all of those, man. All of those backwards. I think a lot of those rock and roll bands

took the time to put in those messages backwards. Yeah. I mean, it seems to be extremely extremely difficult but they figured out a way to do it and why they would want to i can't figure out you know yeah just because it's a robert johnson thing they made an agreement well i also wonder like do they expect people like kids to be playing records backwards like for fun or is it more of a subliminal content subliminal content so it's everything you hear your brain is processing backwards and forwards at the same time obviously no just records it just does that with records just things that are circular when you

hear a record it just yeah plays around things when you see things with your eyes your brain has to flip it that's all all I'm saying, guys. Well, that's true, right? Because that's why kids sometimes write letters backwards, right? Right, right. Because your brain sees things like in... How does that work? Your brain, literally, your eye is just like when you look through a camera lens.

It's upside down and flipped, and your brain flips the image so that it looks right. Is it supposed to flip it? My brain doesn't flip the image. Yeah, it's supposed to flip it. I got a number for somebody you can call if you're having some difficulty.

Well, this is also one of those conversations, like classic center company, where it's like, is your blue the same as my blue oh my god let's not get that deep you know what no let's do it like you bring up a good question but hold on what i mean to say what i mean to say is that like if you if your p's were always backwards then you wouldn't know that they were always backwards you know like when i pee I pee in the toilet? No, if you're, yeah. If the pee went back into my wee-wee? If you saw the letters, like, you know,

the letters P, for example, or Q, always backwards, then you wouldn't know because it would have been backwards from the beginning. You talking about Q? You talking about QAnon? Oh, God. Don't even, don't even. Is that what we're talking about? We should have started off right off the bat with some QAnon? Oh, God. Don't even, don't even. Is that what we're talking about? We should have started off right off the bat with some QAnon stuff.

Matt, you got to work on your examples, bro. All right. If you saw any letter. If you saw a walrus that looked upside down and backwards forever, and that walrus was your best friend for your entire life and was always upside down and backwards, then it wouldn't even matter because you wouldn't feel queasy

because upside down is right side up. I have to say, we're going to end the podcast here, but I have to say I find it very rude that you chose to call Dave, my friend, a backwards walrus. No, I love Dave. It was very, very, very rude

and it wasn't nice at all. Yeah, he's more like a beautiful fox. Yeah, that's true. He's also a very tall man. He's huge. He's huge. Chill. Chill AF.

Oh, and me and him both have sun tattoos, so we're brothers in that regard. You are. Why didn't you fall asleep? We thought that you were going to fall asleep. Wink, wink. I was toying with the idea uh yeah i was just wondering if you have or have not fallen asleep not yet please let my well you've only got three three minutes left before you before you can fake fall asleep so make it count

warning to all listeners like i'm gonna yell a lot but i'm not angry at you i'm just angry at this world that i didn't ask to be born into. Yeah, true, true. But at least I'm in the right. Pepper Mill Rondo, EDM, Hasu Mountain 69. Was this the official player's guide? Yeah. The official player's guide.

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It's been really awesome getting to be friends with you last few years mikey treat mike you have to let let this part play out for the end because doug sings the stairway to heaven guitar solo like acapella it's really oh yeah it's definitely going to play out it's definitely okay okay i'm just making sure all right thank you mike all right thanks for going on this journey I'll talk to you boys this was a lot of fun hell yeah

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