Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Bonus Episode: Strategic Tape Reserve | 2.14.21

Episode Date: February 14, 2021

Eamon from Strategic Tape Reserve stopped by to brainstorm future releases with us, explain what exactly STR is, and attempt to prove that he can be trusted (he can't be). Features Fire-Toolz, Phirnis, Fitness Instruktör, Qualchan., Severino Pfifferling, Modus Pony, VLK, moduS ponY, and Elymr.

Tabs Out Cassette Podcast bonus episode a very I'm going to say it's going to be a helpful bonus episode I'm Mike I'm here with Jamie

Jamie you remember Mr. Rogers right? I do yeah were you allowed to watch Mr. Rogers as a kid? you strike me as someone who, like... I just sneak into the other room and watch it on mute. Yeah.

I grew up in a very strict household. Yeah, like your mom didn't, like, they took his shoes off or something. Something coming. But you used to watch it on mute, which I think is really weird, because you weren't really getting the... You couldn't have been, like, getting the lessons.

The Mr. Rogers lessons. You sort of learn to read lips you yeah when you grow up in your house you have to learn how to read lips i guess you can put the captions on um like i said he but mr rogers would say he would say look for the helpers i like to think that maybe we could be helpers today there's a certain label. Jamie, are you familiar? You're familiar with Sacred Bones. Yeah, the label. Yes. And Sacred Bones, I see, is releasing a record.

It's called The Record of the Unborn. They got some toddler. It's a toddler now, but this is when it was unborn. It was still inside inside i don't know how they got the microphone up there i don't want to know files done but they were they're putting out this this unborn they're putting out a meme record they're making a meme record to get all this attention and there's this label strategic tape reserve they're putting out a ton of meme records. I don't think anyone cares at all. So we, I have invited here for an emergency meeting, an emergency tape meeting,

Eamon from Strategic Tape Reserve. Eamon, how's it going, man? It's all right, yeah, yeah. Is that fair? Is everything I said fair? Yeah, I mean, I've never thought of us like as a meme label you don't i don't i don't even know what that means to be honest i mean i guess i do in the context of uh then sacred bones but uh it's funny that you would say you don't know what it means because

the only other person i spoke to this about was jamie and he also said he didn't know what that meant which made me think which made me think maybe i should go in a different direction for this episode is it a thing i mean i guess it's a thing i'll say this you put out let's go over some of the releases that you put out on your label which how long have you been doing strategic strategic tape reserve i guess like uh since 2013 or something like that. 2013, so... Seven years, I guess? I don't know. About...

Eight years? Nine years? Well done. Seven years. About seven or eight years, it says. Okay, yeah. And I'm not saying... Okay, let me take this back.

I apologize. Jamie, I should apologize. Okay. I think you should go down with your ship. You think I should stick with it, huh? Yeah, stick with it. I mean, we might be a meme label. No, I take it back.

Let me explain myself. God damn it. I can't believe you guys are filibustering me on my own podcast. Let me explain myself. You let me speak. It's not a meme label. Some of the tapes you put out, yeah, you're supposed to listen to these unironically and stuff. Obviously. Sure. Yeah, Modus Pony supposed to listen to these unironically and stuff. Obviously.

Sure. Yeah, Modus Pony, that's some good shit. I think so. That QQ tape, that German Army Side Project tape. Oh, yeah. Q slash slash slash Q. He didn't want to use the word German for the German label. So he went with the Qs. Okay. We'll get into that later.

Because he's from California. That's like cultural appropriation. Right. Okay. We'll get into that later. Cause he's from, he's from California. That's like cultural appropriation. Right. Right. Right. But some of this stuff you have, I'm going to say, for example,

let's talk, let's start off with this one. Shopland world. A music, music for a discovery park of miniature supermarkets. So where I come from, my friend, this is a goddamn meme. This is, you're giving me this look

like I'm the bad guy. Yeah, that was the look. It's not bad guy. I mean, if you find it funny, that's great. I mean, I think that's a wonderful way to enjoy music. Well, talk me off this ledge. So, it's music that would be playing at a theme park, and the theme park has miniature supermarkets in it. Explain to me how that is a serious thing. Explain to me how I'm supposed to take that.

Well, I mean, I think there's a lot of room in the world for uh theme parks where you can learn something about supermarkets in different places everybody is very interested in supermarkets when you uh when you talk to someone who's been in another country they always talk about the supermarkets don't they yeah like they say like or like yeah yeah people are very fascinated by supermarkets so so the concept is to have a theme park where you could experience up to seven different supermarkets like all within a two-hour period and that would need music of course so that's what this is i'm i'm worried that he's like some sort of genius and he's kind of a mad

a mad genius kind of thing and he's right on the tip of me pissing him off and him turning into an evil genius there's definitely no malice or hostility or any kind of yeah

let's see who's on this tape so Nicholas Langley Elizabeth, Joan Kelly Or any kind of, yeah. Thank God. Too scary. Let's see who's on this tape. So, Nicholas Langley, Elizabeth, Joan Kelly, Fire Tools. It's a stacked tape. It is. Dara Moans, Yarsa Fisher, Tuesday Night Machines. A lot of people, Modus Pony, a lot of people from the label, a lot of people who haven't done anything with you before. When you asked them to be on this tape, how specific were you? What did you say to them?

Did you give them the same... Give me the elevator pitch. Yeah, no. It was something like that. I explained the concept of the theme park and how it would be enjoyed and how it was important. Yeah, I mean, we applied to the

European Union to get funding. I filled in some forms and sent them to them he's to try to get this off the ground um he's yeah he's with us i'm not with you man but but here's the thing here's the thing so i sent this around to like 25 people and i thought maybe like 10 would be interested okay um because i can see that maybe not everyone believes in supermarket uh miniature supermarkets the same way that i do so uh yeah but but everyone everyone did everyone did and i think that's a very positive thing you're telling me everyone believed in miniature supermarkets the exact same way that you do. Everyone on this tape, you found all these people, they felt that way.

I can't get inside their heads. I don't want to put words into their mouths. But that's how it seems to me. Were there any artists that said, I hate miniature supermarkets and I can't believe you're doing this comp? I mean, I think i went into it with a lot of fervor so so they didn't say that to me but they might have said that to amongst themselves you think some of that i wasn't a part of you think some of them you think some of these people were just afraid to say no

i don't know i think they were being polite, you know, maybe. Because they're intimidated. I don't know. It wasn't an intimidation thing, I don't think. What would you do if you found out that some, let's say, for example, let me pick somebody off here at random. Wetman Chalmets. Let's say you found out that Wetman didn't like supermarkets. Would you reissue this tape and take that track off? It would hurt. That would be a bit of a blow, you know?

Yeah, I mean, like, that wouldn't happen, of course. Like, you know, that would be very outlandish. It's hard to imagine. I know it's hard to imagine, but let's open up our imaginations. I mean, judging by these last few months, anything can happen in the world. What would you do? What would you do if you found out one of them was trashing? Like, let's say somebody on this comp had their Twitter DMs leaked. And it mentioned, they were like yeah I did a supermarket track but there's some anti-supermarket shit I buried

deep in the beats deep inside my beats on an emotional level it would probably you know sting a little bit but ultimately artist integrity is important and you know it's not

strategic tape reserves place to you know try to manipulate artists into believing certain things about supermarkets or anything else. That's big of you. That's huge. Yeah. You gotta. That's very, that's what I look for in a label. Thank you. The The so Thank you. Now, what about this carbon composite poles are made for walking. It's a tape comp that you put out that's, I guess, in support of some sort of special kind of Nordic walking, I suppose, where you use these composite poles, these carbon composite poles.

It came with a little, you can see it here, a strategic tape reserve. Oh, I'm glad you have that. Yeah, wristband. So what's the deal with this? You're going to tell me this one. You're going to tell me you're just as serious about this as you are about miniature supermarkets. That's what you're going to tell me.

You're going to lie to me right now. I'm not lying. I mean, I think you have to be serious. I mean, we're a serious label. We release music on tape. Yeah, no, I mean, mean nordic walking it's probably i think it might be a cultural thing it's not big in america i imagine i could be wrong but in in germany in germany you see a lot of people out nordic walking with the poles there's a certain technique it's a it's a a serious physical activity uh that people do

do you have the poles i i i don't but i i went to a like a sports store and i looked at some and i held them but it's it's not like what was that like what was that like when you it was you know i i thought this seems like really beyond me you know uh it takes time i think you have to put in you know time to develop the technique to do it in the right way and do you feel like it's kind of like stolen valor releasing a tape like that and not really being into the culture well i guess no you're right like we're probably not the best suited label to be releasing that kind of material but the fact is no one else is sacred bones isn't releasing nordic walking tapes so i mean there was you know it's i don't want to say like a niche in the market but there are people

who don't have who aren't being served who don't have music to sort of help enhance their hobby of choice, or maybe it's more than a hobby for some of them. So you're doing a, you're doing a service. Yeah. I mean, I think that's what, yeah,

music is. Yeah. Well, what are we doing then? What are we doing to rival this baby album? You, I mean the supermarket thing, I'm sorry. The supermarket thing was a mean, the supermarket thing. I'm sorry.

The supermarket thing was a flop. The supermarket thing didn't work out. No one's. No, I know. No one got into. No, I just don't think that it's there. I thought we were going to build it. I know.

I know you thought that. And I can see it in your eyes that you definitely are oddly sincere about it. It just didn't work out. The walking thing. The walking thing. I got bad news for you, man. are oddly sincere about it. It just didn't work out. The walking thing, I got bad news for you, man. People might walk in Germany. We're not walking here. I mean,

America runs on Dunkin', but we ain't walking. I thought we were going to bring it to America. I thought that was going to be like an invasion. I'll tell you this, instead of these sticks, if you just get two long guns, two long guns, you might be able to get some Americans into it. Like gun walking.

And just kind of boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Would you listen to music while you did that? Well, why couldn't that be the music? © transcript Emily Beynon Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ¶¶ we still haven't touched on how we're going to make to have the big breakthrough so they're doing the baby they're doing i mean i think we don't really do big breakthroughs here. I think I think it's it's it's very niche, very targeted, very specific. And, you know, like everyone's got babies. Babies are everywhere. I understand that. That's like that's like a very wide, broad kind of thing to thing to go for. Yeah, but we do have something coming soon.

I don't know. Yeah, okay. I can tell you about Learning by Listening. It's going to be a reference series. What is this? So it's kind of like... Is this an exclusive, by the way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, yeah, I guess as far as the wider public goes, yes. All right. So, learning by listening. Yeah. Learning by listening is, it's going to be like a way to learn about certain certain topics each tape has a topic uh and it'll be like an encyclopedia you gotta get all of them bugs yeah cheese or like yeah yeah all of that stuff string and it'll be an expert artist explaining about this topic and then there's music and the music helps the listener to sort of take in uh the ideas that

are explained so it's like a a learning method so what's the first one give me do you have one do you have it dubbed already or do could you play something no no i don't have not yet really no this will be out later in the spring the first one will be out later in the spring is there any you can't tell us anything about it? You know what? Me and Jamie can guess, and you can just tell us. Okay. Here's what we'll do. Or hot and cold, I can do. We'll go back and forth, and you tell us

who's closer. You know what? I kind of don't even know. So is this like 20 questions? No, no, Jamie. I think you say a thing, and I say a thing, and then he'll tell us who is closer, and then you readjust based on that information. Okay.

So you go first. Alright, I'll do fondue. I'm going to do fondue as well. Who's closer? Yeah, I mean, that's a tie. Yes! So it's fondue. That'd be cool.

That'd be fun. Like a fondue tape, and it comes with, like, the fork. You know what? No, no, no. It's just information. It's just information. It's just to learn about, like, an encyclopedia. So you can't get...

There's no fork. None of these will have a fork? I mean, I think people have forks, you know? That's not my responsibility to provide yeah i noticed that that's fair you say it's fair i noticed like you got the walking you're like oh okay everybody let's get really into this special kind of walking we have this cool kind of walking here i'm'm going to teach everybody. You need these sticks. Oh, does it come with the sticks? No.

No. Get your own sticks. Can I borrow yours? No, I don't even have them. I only held them once. They're very expensive. They're made out of like carbon fiber and all that. Yeah, they're like specially engineered.

Titanium. Like here's another example. This dishwasher tape, which I'm beginning to realize is this you yeah yeah you don't have to i mean there's a picture of the person on the cover and i'm i'm holding it right next to the screen that's you because i'm pretty good here's the name of this project severino what does it say here i can't recursive it It's Severino Pfifferling. Okay. And this is you playing the dishwasher? Well, I mean, I have a dishwasher. No.

Yeah, no, I do. Not like, yeah. I've listened to it a lot, and I've heard some of the different kinds of sounds that it can make. And then I added some sounds to sort of heighten the sounds that the dishwasher was making. You enhanced the dishwasher sounds. Yeah, or sort of like, yeah, I tried to play off of them a little bit to create a bigger,

wider dishwasher sonic environment kind of thing. Why did you use an alias? I don't know. Why not just come clean and say it too? Well, I mean, like, I don't release anything under my own name. I mean, have you never released any? I bet Jamie has. I bet Jamie has because he just wants yeah jamie has

i'm sure of it i'm positive not too much no what have you released uh stuff under i've always wondered because a lot of these projects seem there's a lot of reoccurring stuff on your label which isn't weird it's fine everybody does it but i gotta wonder i gotta wonder which ones are you yeah some of them are me um come clean dish yeah i get i guess the the volk stuff is is by me vlk okay is it vlk or is it volk it's volk actually but uh yeah you know it could go either way. I'm not, like, strict about it. You're not going to spank my ass if I say one you don't like? No, no. Good.

There won't be any of that. Good. Yeah, the emerging industries of Wuppertal is me. And there, yeah, there might be, like, the Severino Pfeffering and other, like, little one-time kind of things. things a few of those you like doing a bunch of one-off stuff you hear that you hear the dishwasher on a different cycle and you think there's another project I mean not really you know I think you know my dishwasher is a bit limited uh and I and I discovered that while making the album oh no were you expecting it to like be a little better and you're like i mean it was it was good for bernie but like i think no full life coming out though Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so

so so so so I think we were on something about the fondue until you shot it down saying no forks. Everybody's got a fork already. Everybody's got a fork already, he said. Everybody has a fondue fork. Everyone. So you would like sort of brainstorm

a strategic paper? Yeah, I love the brainstorm. Okay, no, this is good. Okay, so fondue. But what do you do for fondue? Yeah, that's what I'm getting. Well, let's go over fondue. There's cheese.

I like fondue. I over fondue there's cheese I like fondue do you like a savory or do you like a sweet no I really only like the cheese one like I had the chocolate one once you don't want to have it as a dessert you don't want to dip a pretzel in the chocolate I mean for me

no the thing that jumps right out at me is the tape is dipped in something dip like a pretzel in the chocolate i mean for me no no okay well i think the most obvious thing the thing that jumps right out at me is the tape is dipped in something and it could be cheese okay or some kind of some kind of cheese mixed with a lacquer i'm getting again america's an issue though because getting any kind of food products oh that's true you can stop right there with america's an issue That's a catch-all. You got it. Sorry, sorry.

I mean, the EU, I'm sure, would come down on you hard for that, too. I mean, within the EU, I'm okay, though, for now. Oh, yeah? Okay. You can send forks and cheese and whatever you want, pretty much, a lot of regulations. I mean, I haven't, but... You haven't sent any cheese or any forks?

Not yet, but... You haven't sent any cheese or any forks? Not yet, but this could be... This could be a big breakthrough. Okay, so you're not liking my dipping idea. We can get away from the fondue. Let's look at another tape you put out. Maybe that'll give us an idea. Okay. Maybe we focus

on Modus Pony. We put our attention on Modus Pony. Who is Modus Pony? Mod modus pony is a guy named matt he lives in uh california he visited cologne uh he was like europe and he visited cologne i guess about a year ago uh we had pizza nice yeah i noticed he has a lot of releases on your label he's probably got like three three yeah yeah yeah yeah no he's he was like uh i don't know we like sort of like connected early on in in the strategic tape reserve thing and uh yeah yeah he's had a uh quite a few releases

yeah i really like his stuff's great yeah yeah totally now how would you i want to get serious i want to ask a serious question this isn't a joke anymore and it's like the whole thing like oh there's this uh there's this baby record we're gonna come up with a record that's different than that that's not the thing when when i talk about like the shopland compilation and when i talk about play the dishwasher music and we're talking about the walking but then you talk about the modus pony tapes like do you see those as separate like they have like kind of a different identity within the label i kind of see what you're saying yeah um i mean no to me it's all it's. Yeah, I'd really appreciate if you just said yes, just to kind of give this.

I need some kind of validation, something, because speaking of babies, I'm not going to sleep tonight unless I get some kind of satisfaction. OK, then, yes, definitely. No, no, no. That's exactly right. I'm glad you said I'm glad you brought that up. The meme series. No, I don't want to call your label a meme label. I never meant it in a bad way i mean it's fine it's fine it can be i'm just not sure yeah yeah no i mean i guess i see where that comes from you are a tough nut to crack you're a tough nut to crack i can't get a hold of you you're slippery i'm trying to i'm trying to figure out, like, sometimes you'll say a joke that's, like, talking about, like, you know, the aspects of business and the economy within, like, your label and stuff.

And it's like, oh, that was a little funny thing he did. But now I'm thinking he might just be serious. I mean, yeah. Is it actually, is Strategic Tape Reserve a cassette label or is it, what is it? No, it's a tape reserve. What does that mean? I knew he was, Jamie, I knew he was going to say something like that. It's not a label. I knew he was

going to say something like that and it was going to be quick. I mean, I think it's just, you know, like just giving ourselves a little bit of a separation. I think I don't know. No, let's dive into this. Lay down.

Can I read the clip on Bandcamp? The description? The Strategic Tape Reserve, headquartered in Cologne, West Germany, is a fully independent, non-aligned, secular organization dedicated to the dissemination and responsible management of ferric cassette

material and content. Let's go over that bit by bit. What do you mean by... Let's go over the bit by bit. What do you mean non-aligned? Not aligned to any political factions or anything like that. Any at all. Or with any nations. We're sort of supranational, I think.

Does that have anything to do with any other tape labels? Are there any tape labels that you want to specifically call out as you're not aligned with them? Maybe the baby one. Okay. The banished sacred bones.

Okay. What was the more you were secular? What else is going on with you? Something about distributing ferric oxide? Materials. To the dissemination and responsible management of ferric oxide or ferric cassette materials and content what do you mean what would be what would be an irresponsible way to put out

tapes um i mean if you're saying you're responsible then surely you must know what would be irresponsible i mean, we wouldn't do something that would intentionally harm a listener, for example. If someone buys a tape, we wouldn't do something to intentionally

harm them. Do you have an example of when that has happened? Because it's weird that I would say, i'm gonna start a tape label and none of the tapes are going to explode none of the tapes like we won't it's like with our tapes our tapes won't kill your aunt like those other tapes and it's like well when did that happen well i mean i think i think it would be good if other or, you know, if tape labels were more forthcoming about that kind of information about I mean, like no one else is saying it. So it makes you wonder, I think. I am very suspicious of that now that you say it.

See, this is how the Q stuff starts. This is no different than Q. And you already got Jamie. And I knew this gullible bastard was going to be on right away. No, I think you're creating problems where they don't exist. Or it's solving problems before they start. You can say that. I can edit it out. I think this is where the strategic part comes in. We have to think about what could happen

if an irresponsible tape label, you know, did have customers who were. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the customers are totally unaware that they're not even thinking about the possibilities that are out there in the world. world yeah but also that i've never i've never personally have felt that way i've never heard from anyone who ever said i'm worried i'm gonna order tape i'm worried it's gonna it's just gonna smack my ass i'm worried i'm gonna get hurt i've never heard that concern before and i feel like all you're doing is saying hey we're strategic tape reserve we're responsible we're here to really like you know make sure everything's on the up and up. Don't buy from the other labels. Just buy here.

Here, buy my dishwasher. Buy my dishwasher. Made some sounds. Buy that and it won't hurt you. Mike, I think you're a little too focused on like physical harm, whereas harm can come in a lot of different ways, such as like emotional harm.

And, you know, the cover of the tape just might give somebody the heebie-jeebies. Yeah. Okay. Let me see. It might be not nice. And also maybe also I think I think a lot of the tapes we put out have some like edifying value. Like it will like help you get in shape by doing nordic walking didn't give me the sticks understand supermarkets better understand supermarkets better so like i think it's

responsible to sort of help listeners develop uh within themselves i don't trust you at all and i'm just going to be quite i trust you all right see yeah i i trust him 100 okay jamie thank you jamie you know i'm writing that down i think stop writing that down the concept of a amusement park with with multiple supermarkets inside is something that when it enters your brain expands your consciousness. Right? How's that safe? You're just describing drugs. How is this safe?

Oh, I hate drugs. I don't know. Well, okay, let's move on. Hold on. Oh, I got a piece of hair. I got a beard hair in my mouth. So we talked about the strategery. We talked about the ferric oxide.

That's the tape. What's the reserve then? You know, it means we have some tapes. Are they in like a fortified bunker of some kind? They're in a drawer, mostly. Can we see the drawer? Can we see the drawer? I don't think there's really a drawer

I'll send you a picture later You know Aaron Dilloway Took us on a tour of his house We walked all over that house We were in Aaron Dilloway's attic Walk us around your house right now Right now Man my kids are asleep

We'll be quiet We'll be real quiet It's a small apartment. We'll be real quiet. It's not going to be a... Just show us the bathroom. No, you don't want to see the bathroom. Oh, boy. All right. Maybe I should trust you.

I don't know. I've been on a roller coaster of emotions. I feel like I've been at a theme park. And maybe that is a good thing. Maybe that's what this was all about. Maybe this was all for me. I think it can be, yeah. You talked about doing those.

Is it a series of tapes that you're going to do? These informational tapes? Yeah, Learning by Listening. It's going to be a series. There's going to be one out every two months or something like that people can like collect the whole set and then if you want to like it's like a reference here's like an encyclopedia whenever you want to know about something you go you look on your shelf of learning by listening tapes and you find like the tape about cheese or German geology or whatever you want to know about. And then you can listen to that.

There's like a little bit of like spoken information. And then in between the spoken information, there's music which helps you take in, consolidate what you've learned. I think it's wild that you trust this guy, Jamie. Absolutely wild. Are you going to have time to do anything else? Like if you're just, this seems like a lot. This seems like it's going to be a big project. Are you fact checking?

Like what's going on here? Oh yeah, no, no. It's all very on the level. Is strategic tape reserve, are you like, is this a pivot? Are you making, are you guys like making a pivot to just purely information based dissemination? Like you were, I mean, we'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes. Like you said, like we could have easily become like a sports label if, uh, if the Nordic walking thing worked out or gotten more into leisure attractions. Wait, so if the Nordic walking thing worked out,

you would have pivoted into a sports label? Probably, yeah. Wow, so you really... You've got to follow the money. Do you have anything else planned beyond that? There's another VULC. I mean, yeah, there's a lot planned. There's a lot coming out.

The next thing coming out is another Vulk. I mean, yeah, there's a lot planned. There's a lot coming out. The next thing coming out is another Vulk tape, which is it uses samples of like Italian restaurant music, like music you would hear in an Italian restaurant. And yeah, does some stuff with that. What is the VLK project? Sum that up. Yeah, so that... I'm holding your split here with Modus Pony, which I believe is... You don't do release numbers, do you?

I don't know. I sort of do retroactively. I don't like numbers that much, you know? But you don't know if you do them or not? I do when, like, i have to when someone asks or something uh wait a minute it might come down on you you have to have catalog numbers for the eu i i don't know so wait has there been like what do you mean if someone asked you so someone's like you're putting out this tape can you make it audited yeah can you make sure strategic papers are number 28 yeah or like no i don't know um

i think someone someone offered to like put together like the discogs thing i don't know if that ever happened even but um jamie can handle it okay well either either way like for that i think i like put some thought into uh the catalog numbers anyway the volt project is all like sort of sample based it's all sort of samples a lot of times like personal samples like uh from experiences like the everland sean and camden tape i don't know if you oh are familiar with that one um i am. That's that was Sean Hannity. Yeah, I feel like I have that tape and now I don't know where it is. All right.

Well, that one. Yeah, that one is sort of a very. Yeah. I mean, the new one that's coming out is a little bit similar to that in that it's like based on work experience. That was like a job I had to be in a car listening to Sean Hannity and Avril Lavigne for a while. And then I also worked in an Italian restaurant where I had to listen to a lot of like Al Martino music. So these are based there are things deep within you that you were letting out. Yeah, kind of. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah, really.

Snap your fingers and when it happens, the tables are playing. Okay. Well, you got to do it. Oh, I got to? This is serious? Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm going to go get some food. Thank you. so so I'm out. Thank you. so Oh I'm sorry. all right there you go i'm gonna i'll add it in there that's how i'll do it

oh add a little uh delay and reverb to that yeah that's around within post jamie you got any questions i'm actually since i since I'm a New Jersey guy, I'm just curious about where New Jersey factors in. Were you working in an Italian restaurant in New Jersey or Germany? Yeah, no, no, in Hoboken. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have the tape here. I can show it to you that it's going to come out.

It's packaged in the original menu. Well, not the original, but a reproduction of the menu of that restaurant. It was called Johnny Rico's. What's some items on the menu? Yeah, that's here. You have the specials. There's tortellini a la

vodka, which is cheese or spinach tortellini covered in our own vodka sauce. On the inside, there's more. Unlimited salad. Great pasta. tortellini covered in our own vodka sauce on the inside there's more unlimited salad pasta see let's see what's some good there's the musketeer platter which doesn't sound very chocolate or caramel you put it on tina and chicken cordon bleu all on one plate that was one high ticket item that cost 14.25 so that was kind of for like the high rollers that what year are we talking

about here this is late 90s late 90s yeah um you want more there's um well i want to know what kind of music were you into in the late 90s in new jersey uh late 90s i guess i was i was kind of like into hip-hop a lot um but i also listened to wfmu uh because that was like right there um uh yeah i'm blown away that you didn't just make something weird up and i was like here we go again here we go again. Here we go again. And when did you move to Germany to teach English, right? Yeah, I moved to Prague first and I lived there for a few years in 2003. You moved there to teach? Yeah.

Or you don't have to talk about it. If you're a man on the run, that's cool, man. I'll back off. No, I mean, I'm just trying to remember. Yeah, basically, yeah. I mean, I didn't move there because I wanted to teach, but I sort of moved there and then taught. Gotcha.

Gotcha. The teaching wasn't, yeah. Gotcha. I think I got it better. I want to make sure you're doing okay. You're happy and healthy during these uncharted times. Don't bring it down like that. What if he has COVID?

Thank you for asking. Things are a little bit weird, kind of boring, but generally could be a lot worse. Thanks for... You said it's like, what is it, 8 o'clock there? It's really late.

Okay. Well, thanks for... Yeah, I appreciate it for hanging out for a little bit and talking. Thank you for inviting me on. Yeah, it was really a pleasure. And we really do appreciate it. And thanks for spending some time and doing it. I fucking love rock and roll.

I fucking love rock and roll. and doing cool things like that. I fucking love rock and roll Shut up And Governor Maddox Is a peach too I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll

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I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll I fucking love rock and roll I'm fucking, I'm fucking grown I'm fucking, I'm fucking grown I'm fucking, I'm fucking grown I'm fucking, I'm fucking grown Does it grow? What's still going on? I'm fucking on a fucking roll I'm fucking on a fucking roll I'm fucking on a fucking roll

I'm fucking on a fucking roll I'm fucking on a fucking roll I'm fucking on a fucking roll I'm fucking lyrical I'm fucking lyrical You know I'm still signing It's always there