Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #16 | 12.8.12

Episode Date: December 8, 2012

Bastian Void, Blues Control, Pleasure Island, Super Minerals, Cenote Glow, Thou, Liveshitbingepurge, Former Selves, Red Red Ruby, Jonathan James Carr, Mike Shiflet, and an interview with Ryan McGill (Afterlife) and Franklin Teagle (Afterlife and Tranquilty Tapes)

So should I identify what I do? Whatever makes you comfortable. You go first. Are you already rolling? You getting this? Hi, this is Ryan McGill from Afterlife. Hi, this is Franklin Teagle from Afterlife and Tranquility Tapes. You're listening to Tabs Out.

Had to throw an extra one in there, didn't he? Hello. A little spitting throat singing. Give me the knife. What is that from? Please. What? The Golden Child.

Eddie Murphy? That's a classic. I haven't seen it in a while. Tabs out. It's been a while for me, too. Oh, I love that movie. Episode number 16. 16. One second.

Double digits. Toby, you're back. We let you back. We let you back. Late, but back. Yeah, very late. Very late. Very late. Dave's a little upset about that. I'm sure Dave's upset. We've been late, but back. Yeah, very late. Very late. Very late.

Dave's a little upset about that. I'm sure Dave's upset. We've been waiting around here all night for you. Well, you know, he can S my D. I was pacing. You were worried where you were. I was going to sit in the living room with the lights out. Well, then I said to Dave, Dave called me.

I said, I'm right around the corner. I'm getting ready to pull in. But I was on the wrong street. Like the bridge that crosses 95. I was on the other one. Oh, yeah. So then I had to go all the way around the block. I'm getting ready to pull in. But I was on the wrong street. The bridge that crosses 95. I was on the other one. So then I had to go all the way around the block and back around. Actually, when you said I'm pulling up, you said I'm pulling up.

Yeah, because I thought I was at the light. And I looked outside for like five minutes. I was like, you're not pulling up. Why would you tell someone you're pulling up when you're not? What kind of person does that? I thought I was at the light where then I would take a left. The school would be there. But then I got to the light and it's not. I had to go straight. It's like a bad dream.

You just never got here. Right away, I was like, motherfucker. So what's up? Not a whole lot. I figured we'd play some cassette tapes. Hmm. I wanted to... Cassettes!

We just put up a top 25 cassettes of 2012 list. Yup. Did you see that thing where companies are going back to cassette tapes for data storage? You were telling me about this. Well, then I read it again. The reason why is because it doesn't take up any power. Like, there are companies spending all this money to run computers to store data, but now they can back it up to a tape and then that tape is then...

They're spending less money on energy. Why wouldn't they just put it on a hard drive and then... Turn it off. Yeah, just... But these are big servers, I guess. They're not turning them off. It's not like a portable hard drive. These are like huge companies that have things.

But didn't they switch from magnetic tape to digital because of the deterioration rate or whatever i think and also then there was you know leaps and bounds of in data storage has there been leaps and bounds in magnetic no no i'm talking about they that was the change from magnetic tape to then storing it digitally and then you can store so much but uh the thing i read now they they coated it with barium, and now you can store more. Like ice cream? Is there barium in ice cream? Sounds like a flavor of ice cream.

Barium sounds radioactive to me. I feel like if you went to a Cold Stone and asked for barium, they would do a thing like, we got some berries. Yeah, we got some. Oh, berry yum. Berry yum. Yeah. Oh, okay.

I went to school that got him berry yum. That's a yogurt flavor, by the way. Oh, okay. Fro-yo? It's a fro-yo. Berry Yum. Berry Yum. Yeah. Oh, okay. I went to school with a guy named That's a yogurt flavor, by the way. Oh, good fro-yo? It is a fro-yo. Love fro-yo. Anyway, we had a You're just staring at me. top 25 list.

And number one on that list was this tape by Bastion Void called Fluorescent Bells on Field Hymns, which is a tape that the Field Hymns Oh this comes with a digital download. I like that.

This label, all of their J cards have a digital download code inside. They sent me this tape and it blew me away the first time I listened to it. Yeah I remember you messaged

me and then yeah i sent you away like check about they have the dude joe bastardo who does his project who i think is from uh worcester mass uh he put out two other tapes two other bastion boy tapes in 2011 on a foxy digitalis and i just ordered i the one not that long ago from Discriminate and then but I couldn't find the other one and I think that's all he has I'm not sure but I think that's all he has out this looks really good yeah he does all the artwork

and it's real like you know like 1970s Tron esque definitely that whole vibe not psychedelic that wasn't the right word at all but like you know what I mean Tron-esque. Definitely that whole vibe. Not psychedelic.

That wasn't the right word at all. But like, you know what I mean. Crystal balls in a spectrum kind of vibe. It's like psychedelic in a mechanical kind of way. There you go. Mechanical psychedelic. Neon hood. Neon hood. Is that something I made up?

I feel like this is. Yes, you just made that up. Neon hood. Well, not today. Like Kesha. Yeah, I watched that video. It's ridiculous. Is that something I made up? Yes, you just made that up. Neon Hood. Well, not today. Like Kesha. Yeah, I watched that video. It's ridiculous. It's good, right?

That is like some straight up witch house. Well, the song isn't, but the... Yeah, the imagery, though. The imagery was ridiculous. Yeah. So I'm going to play the first track off of Side A, which is called Atrium. And I like also the white shell with silver.

Yeah, I like those lines. It's all around a very awesome looking tape. Well put together tape. Yeah. And I don't know if I mentioned that he did the artwork. Joe Bastardo does the artwork for all this stuff. It always looks good. So let's start off here.

You know what kills it for me, though? What? Something kills it for you? It's a Game Changer, ladies? Wait, we're starting off with the best tape? Yeah. That's not the best tape. I mean...

That's not the best tape ever. I'm just saying, like, out of 2012, when I had to come up with... Yeah, but we're not playing the list tonight. No, we're not playing the list, but we are playing some... We're doing a little clean-up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, like, in 2012, this past year, when I had to... This is what kills it. The handwritten... Yeah, I think every... Like, you 2012, this past year, when I had to think about it. The handwritten. Yeah, I think every. Like you went out of the way. It's very nice looking.

Is every download code different? I think so, yeah. I don't know. I don't know what it is, yeah. Yeah, you get like how the download code

is written in like pen on the J card. Get a stamp. Make a stamp. Take that out with the label. Put a little piece of paper in there.

Like cut out a little piece of paper. Yeah, yeah, but don't put it on the card. Yeah. You know, because that... Did you want to say that right now to Fieldhems? Give them a little...

I don't even want to listen to this tape. Fieldhems. Get some printer paper and cut out little strips. Handwritten text never looks good. Yeah, stop writing on the J cards. I think it's also numbered somewhere else. Yeah, it's numbered on the inside. No, you know, a number with a silver sharpie.

I'm okay with that. You don't like the download code, though? All of the Phil Timms tapes I've seen have had that. I mean, I like the option of the download code. I don't like the handwritten text. All right, well, here is Bastion Boyd off of the cassette, Fluorescent Bells, Atrium. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bashing void. That was a solid jam.

That was real good. Yeah, that whole tape is pretty intense. That guy also has another project, like a group that he's in called Gay Shapes. He sent me that tape. What are gay shapes? Triangle. Triangle, some rectangles, no squares. If they're real long.

If they're real long, it's skinny triangles. Most tetra shapes, like the three up one across, the three up two across. The T one, the T-shaped one, that looks like a dong.

That's the straightest shape there is, Dave. Yeah, that's a dong. It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. Am I right, Joe? All right, you got something you want to go here? Who's next? Just go ahead, Joe. Joe, do you want to show up all fucking late?

And play and be next? I wanted to be first. No, Dave can go next, and then I'll go. I'm going now? I'm going. Here. Go. What do you got?

I got this blues control tape. All right. Who I just saw the other night. I never was really into him before. I listened to him a little bit. Eh, you know. Blues control? It sounds like a dad bar band.

RJ's in. My dad. Just come check out my band, Blues blues control my dad has a southern accent what was that um i've only i saw what i like about this tape too i didn't mean to tell you off it's uh it's on drag city like which is a real label they're also putting out tape versions of their releases now oh is this new yeah it's new oh crazy so they had it for you. They had it on LP, CD, and tape. There was some other label. I don't think it was a bigger label.

That band Horseback. Were they from North Carolina? They had an album on Relapse a year ago. I don't know who that is. They just put out a cassette recently too. It's weird because it's

all noisier stuff. They do jammy songs with noisy seags. Kind of like Wooden Ships a little bit, but they have black metal vocals. I like how this artwork is just

basically text on the front with all like the track with the track titles and everything on the front on the cover yeah it's almost like a promo yeah i have like a i have a germs cassette that's like this that's like this yeah that's like a promo version and i didn't pay attention to what the lp looked like oh so the lpr may not be that yeah i didn't pay attention that would be weird if you would put out an lp and a cd and then the tape version has like that yeah well let me tell you they fucking killed live did they yeah i saw them with um cluster and oh with that thing in baltimore that thing dan hanks was supposed to play they were so good and i i was the only time i saw them

i never really paid attention to them before and now. I like this. What's on what's this tape called? Valley Tangents. Valley Tangents. And what are you going Joe you're in like the middle here.

I'm on the second track of side one. Okay. Iron Pigs. Iron Pigs. I like on the J card here in the bottom right corner

it just says in quotes Cosmos in the cupboard. Wait what is it? It says Cosmos in the cupboard. Just, it just says in quotes, Cosmo's in the cupboard. Wait, what is it? It says Cosmo's in the cupboard just in quotes by itself. Just for no reason down in the corner. Oh yeah.

And smaller than everything else. It's like this, it's even smaller than, cause you have like all like the recorded ad, all the credits and stuff. And then a little bit smaller is like, you know, copyright to 2012 blues control drag city PO box, blah, blah, blah. And then a little bit smaller is like, you know, copyright to 2012 Blues Control, Drag City, P.O. Box, blah, blah, blah.

And then a little bit smaller than that, Cosmo's in the cupboard. Google that while we play this and figure out what that is, because it's obviously a quote or something. Maybe. What's on the inside here? Just a bunch of scribbles. Just a bunch of scribbles. A bunch of scribbles. A little kid got to it.

All right. It's a serious piece. So that's a serious piece. So let's... Serious piece? So want to collect her last week? Alright, so let's play

Blues Control from the $100,000 Trek City tape. What's that say? I can't really see. Valley what? Valley...

Valley Tangents. Valley... Oh, that's it. Valley Tangents. ballet tangents Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. blue control god damn yeah that was a cut what was that iron picks i don't know i don't know how i if someone asked me to describe blues control i have no idea how to describe them i've seriously i don't think i've ever heard anything like except that episode that episode of friends what's the one guy that always looks sad with like the kramer kramer he's he's playing like he's playing like presets in the coffee shop on his keyboard,

and there's cow sounds and bombs going off. He's just playing his keyboard. That's exactly what it sounded like. I was going to say, certain parts sounded like Stella with Michael Showalter. Right. Like if they started a band on an episode, parts of it would sound like... Michael Showalter's definitely playing the horn part. Yeah, it was really fucking good, man. Made me want to use my body.

That was a cut. That was crazy. Joe, but you said you saw those guys live? Yeah, Johnny Brenda's... You saw them live in concert? I saw them live in a rock concert, man. I saw them at the Palladium in 42. The Palladium.

They opened fucking Winger. Got some bush under the bleachers. Got some what? What did you say? All right, Dave, what do you got? I'm not going to go down this hole with you. What the hell? In a bag?

You going grocery shopping? Oh, John told me it was in a bag. Yeah, it's another bag tape. And I was telling Mike, this should have made, I really like this tape, it should have made

the top 25 list for Tabs Out. But because it's in one of these sandwich baggies, it was in a box on the floor somewhere and when I was going through my tapes,

trying to pick stuff out from this year, didn't even think about this one. But it's really good. It's double cassette. Another John Pyle project called Pleasure Island.

John Pyle who sat in on an episode. Yeah, and what else have we played by him? He has that black metal thing, Oaken Tower. Yeah, Oaken Tower. And maybe a Dark Heritage. We might have. No, I don't think we did though.

We played Oaken Tower in episode three but I think that's all We played from him Okay And then I forget What episode he sat in on But uh What do we got here Did you say this is

A dark hair tape No it's a pleasure Right on Right on Comes in one of those See these look good Just a little stamp On the thing

Yeah I like that You know what I mean A B C D Black tapes With. Just a little stamp on the thing. Yeah, like that. You know what I mean? A, B, C, D, black tapes with a white stamp of the sides. Lots of inserts going on in here. What's in there? Nice little collage piece. You can just put it on

whatever size you're on. It's all pretty good. That's what I was going to do. What's this tape called? I don't know how to say it. Like a lot of things on this program. Yeah. There's an X, so anytime there's an X. Okay, it's a pleasure.

You can't say anything with an X? No. How do you say it? X. X? Like X-ray. What about xylophone? You just said it.

Booyah. Yeah, but then I don't know. Decathexus. Decathexus. Decathexus. What are you laughing at? It doesn't quite roll off the tongue. It doesn't roll off the tongue. That's what your mom said.

All right. What is addiction electronics? Is that the label to put this out? Oh, I don't know. I thought that was maybe describing his work. Yeah, I thought it was a self-release thing. No, no, no. I think a label put this out.

Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. All right. So we're going to play, no, no. I think a label put this out. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. All right, so we're going to play something off the side. We'll get it all squared away, or straightened out, rather. Maybe we won't. What are you looking at? The paper?

The texture. Oh, yeah. It's got a tooth to it. Yeah. Houndstooth. All right. Mike used to love that filter. All right. Mike used to love that filter. All right.

Let's play a little bit off of the Pleasure Island. See what I did here? I put brick. Decafexis cassette on perhaps addiction electronics. Maybe. Or perhaps self-released. And here it is. Thank you. Thank you. so so I'm going to go ahead and get out of the way. The Thank you. so The The The The The I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a look at the car. Thank you. so I'm going to go ahead and get out of here. so uh so so Pleasure Island.

Good jam. Never figured out what the label was. No. So many things we could have done. We could have Googled it. We could have texted John Pyle. There are no bars in here. Yeah, the internet's kind of shoddy.

Don't even explain what you just said alright what do you got going on now I got a um this was actually going back to the uh tabs out top 25 cassettes of 2012 list yeah I wanted to grab one of those but then they you had sold out right yeah number number two the duets

comp on tranquility tapes this is a fucking banger man how many minutes is it 100 something out, right? Yeah, number two. The duets comp on Tranquility Tapes. This is a fucking banger, man. It's a banger. It's like a... How many minutes is it? A hundred something? It's a long one. Yeah. Roped Off was supposed to be on that, but Mike flaked out. I had better things to do. Never got back to Friday. White Evening,

Super Minerals. Yeah, read the track list. Velvet Chrome, Brother Raven. I don't know how to say this one. I'll skip it how to say this one. I'll skip it. Zephiadai. No, it's Zaziki Tetrasheef. Does it have an X in it?

There's a Z. Might as well. Z. Century Plants, Big Sky, and Afterlife. That's side A. That's side A. That's side A. And then B is Imperial Topaz, Telekult Powers, Concessionaries,

which I had that Concessionaries tape. That's Brad Rose and someone else, right? Mm-hmm. Blood on Tape, Sundrips, Grasshopper, The Circle and the Point, and Coventry Music.

Took a really good lineup. Yeah. Awesome artwork. For so long, I thought Century Plants was Century Planets. Century Planets. For a really long time. I read it. Super Minerals is Phil French and...

Who? I think it's William... Gionki. Gionki. William Gionki. I think that's right. Yeah, I got this queued up to the Super Minerals track. So we'll play the Super Minerals track off of this.

Nice. We haven't played any Super Minerals. No, we haven't. And then you want to go into... Here's what we'll do. Here's the bet. Here's the bet. I'm going to make an executive decision right now.

We'll play the Super Minerals track from the Duets comp. You can't smoke in here. Go into a, no, you definitely can't smoke in here. I wasn't going to smoke in here. Go into a interview that I conducted with Franklin Teagle. What was that, Camel Blues? And Ryan McGill of Afterlife. And Franklin does Tranquility Tapes as well, who released this comp.

And then from that, we'll go straight into a tape by Cenote Glow, which is Franklin's solo project on Fadeaway Tapes. I thought it was Cenote. I looked it up on a thing that helps you pronounce words. We have used that many of a time on this program. I use it. I constantly use it. Yeah, I thought it was Senote.

It's at Senote. Senote. Isn't that some sort of cavern thing? Yeah. Right? Yeah. All right. It's not a cavern thing.

It's a cavern. Well, yeah, that's what I meant. Like a geological... Yeah. Right? Yeah. All right. It's not a cavern thing. It's a cavern. Well, yeah, that's what I meant. Like a geological hole. Yeah. Get it right or pay the price. Yeah, it's a hole. So let's do that. It has to do with spelunking.

I was in the sixth cenote earlier today, dude. Have you ever been in a cenote? A cenote? Ugh. Ugh. It's disgusting. Is it? Yeah. I imagine it's really dark it's wet well if you have a cenote glow though that's that's what you need you need to bring the glow the plankton

that i don't know the plankton what what all right so let's play super minerals off the duets comp on tranquility go into this interview and then come out in the Cenote Glow Tape, which is on Fade Away Tapes. Brought to you by Campbell Cigarettes. Blue. Blue. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so Thank you. All right. Let me get comfortable. We're rolling, by the way.

It looks like there's a drink holder on your microphone. Oh, yeah. Dave's got like, yeah. It's nice. I know this man doesn't have a drink holder. No, Dave is the only guy who gets... Does he put drinks on it? Yeah, he puts his beers in there.

Ah. He's the only one. You notice he has like the fancy stand up on the floor microphone. Yeah. And we're subjected to... These tabletops. Yeah, he's got... Because he always brings like, the fancy stand-up-on-the-floor microphone. Yeah. And we're subjected to... These tabletops. Yeah, he's got... Because he always brings, like, you know, he brings the laptop and stuff, so he's got,

you know, a dedicated workstation. Right. But his laptop, it's like a military-grade laptop that weighs, like, 50 pounds. And, like, I sit right there across from him. Yeah. And it gets so fucking hot. Like, the heat just, like... I start sweating. Yeah. So, dude is over next to, like, ugh. cross from him yeah and it gets so fucking hot like the heat just like starts sweating

and my tapes are in front of it like all getting warped it's so fucking it's horrible so what are we doing are we gonna do uh an afterlife interview now yeah sure is that what we're doing whatever you want to talk about whatever yeah i know what i can talk about this is my house you're right i pay my taxes your house your rules my house my work hard and i play hard i'm not gonna argue with that can't argue with that all right we're here with franklin teagle and ryan mcgill from afterlife gentlemen hello hello how you guys doing doing pretty well thanks yeah no problem oh this is curious to see if you're doing all right pretty well, thanks. Yeah? No problem. I was just curious to see if you were doing all right. Ryan, I'm not really concerned about you right now.

I'm not doing all right, but just go ahead. I've got a lot of shit going on right now in my life. All right. So you guys jammed a show last night? We did, yeah. At Rob's house. At Rob's house. It was fun.

In Wilmington, Delaware. Yeah, first time in Wilmington. First time in Delaware for both of you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah? First time playing in a state outside of... Not your first time driving through it, obviously.

No, I've driven through Delaware. Because you're both from Georgia. Yeah. Yep. And you live in New York now. Yeah, we both live up there. That was the only time I've driven through Delaware is on my way up.

Yeah? You never had to go back down to Georgia? I never drove back down because I sold my car. How much did you get for it? I don't like to discuss money matters in interviews. 92 a lot. How much do you have in your bank account? Oh, man.

Which bank account? Let me ask you a question. Do you have a 401k set up right now? Oh, yeah. Because the future, you guys are, you get to a certain age, you guys started thinking about your future. No i invested all my uh retirements in corn futures okay yeah okay i hear corn's gonna be really good in the future it's coming back i mean think about there was a time when they didn't have candy corn and now they do so imagine what's the next thing

going to be yeah it's true you got it on the cob you got it off the cob you got it creamed we're all looking out for the next Korn Innovations. Yeah. So you both do cassette labels, right? No, actually, this is Franklin. No, and I'm the only one who does a cassette label. Ryan, you don't do a... I'm like a lesser than. Yeah, no, I don't run it. I thought you...

Who does like Anthem of Sounds or something like that? Anthem of Sounds. Anthem of Sounds. That's my label. That's also you? Yeah, it's not as active these days, but I did that one before Tranquility Tapes for a while with my friend Matt.

He can't get enough attention, can he? No, yeah. It's good, though, because people constantly ask me how the labels are going and stuff. If I want to, I can lie and say that I do. It's horrible. Actually, Ryan has been accredited to that label quite a few times online and you know people just quote it as our label sometimes i'm like all right well i'll take it i'll take what i can get so you did uh

anathema sounds before tranquility yeah and you're not doing anathema sounds anymore yeah it's kind of i mean it's not it hasn't ended or anything but matt who did all the artwork for it he lives down in georgia um and he's going to school now so he's kind of focusing on that so we haven't really done as much but at some point it might pick up again okay right on yeah and uh tranquility is is it you and who is caroline teagle who's that your sister yeah she's my sister now is this the first brother sister noise cassette label that north america has ever seen i yeah i can't think of any others and i can't think of any others outside of north america would you consider yours yourself a trailblazer i think so yeah trailblazers i think so you're like the clyde drexler and another person on the trailblazers yeah of Of siblings releasing cassette tapes.

Now, how does that work? Does she, because I know she does all the artwork for Tranquility stuff. Yep, she does. So is that the division of labor that she does all the artwork and you, or does she have a hand

in picking what gets put out? No. No, I don't let her do that. You wouldn't let her do that? No. Yeah, no. I mean, i pick all the stuff pretty much that's going to come out on it and then send her the you know the info and

send her the music and she does the artwork for it okay do all the production put everything together the mail order all that stuff so she pretty much just does the artwork but does she do all that art but is that all hand drawing yeah Yeah, the ink, and hopefully I'm not getting this wrong, but the way that she does it is she draws everything by hand, I think, on tracing paper, and she scans everything into the computer, and then on the computer, I think probably Photoshop, she goes in and does all the colors from there. Okay.

So it's kind of a mix of hand-drawn and digital, I guess. And that's her handwriting on there? That's her handwriting. I always wondered whose handwriting that was. I like it. That's all hers. Oh, cool. Does she live in New York?

Is she still in Georgia? Yeah, no, she lives in Brooklyn as well. So did you start Tranquility because Matt was getting busy with school? Yeah, it was kind of, Anathema Sound was kind of starting to taper off a little bit, and I was kind of, they were actually running at the same time for a little while. They were actually running at the same time for a little while.

And I was just wanting to release more and more. I had the time and the energy to release more tapes. Matt was kind of at his maximum in terms of what he could do with artwork. I should preface all of this by saying I have no visual talent whatsoever. So that's why I work with other people. Taking a look at you, I guess that. Yeah, yeah, I know. Thanks. Yeah, so as Anathema Sound was kind of starting to slow down a little bit,

Caroline had been doing, you know, work on flyers and was really, you know, doing a lot of cool stuff visually. And we had talked about working on a label together. And actually, I thought it would be cool because she's not necessarily like as sort of ingrained in the whole like tape world and experimental music like as I am as i guess so i think she kind of brings like an interesting perspective to it and she's not she's not out

there like looking at fangs and arrows and animal sigh every day to see like what tapes are coming out so you know she's you know i think in some ways that's why her work looks kind of unique i think so have you put anything out on tranquility that she heard and she was like, Franklin, why are you putting this out? This is horrible. Not yet. If she's thinking that, she's keeping it to herself. She very well could be thinking that.

What about you, Ryan? Is there anything on Tranquility you think is horrible? No. Don't you dare lie. Okay, well, yes. I'll cover my ears. Franklin, cover your ears and don't listen to this part. Besides that afterlife bedroom split.

Probably the Cenote Glow side of the Cliffside split. Yeah, the one that dirtied up my Cliffside's tape. Other than that, though. That was him. Just kidding. Is that your solo project? So is there any artists that you released on both of those labels? Yeah, there are.

Let me think. Thoughts on Air. both of those levels yeah there are let me think for uh thoughts on air um we've done uh we we did a split uh between him and black eagle child on anathema sound and then not long ago we did a whole uh tape of of his for tranquility tapes i have no shortage of love for scott's music so i've done a bunch of stuff for him yeah um what else i think there are some others too but i'm kind of spacing on oh andreas brandol we just did a tape for him on tranquility and uh i did a tape for him on anathema sound as well okay so cliff sides has been on both labels so a couple a couple artists have bridged the gap and what was the first thing that you did on tranquility tranquility

the first tape was uh charlatan which is uh Rose, who does Digitalis and The North Sea. So did you just, you approached him about doing that tape? Actually, that tape was originally going to come out on Anathema Sounds. And so that was kind of the point. I had sort of been thinking about starting this new label and I'm actually at this point i'm kind of trying to work out from like pigeonholing it as like just synth music and just ambient music but that's kind of starting out like that's a lot of what i wanted to release on the

label and probably you know why i called it tranquility tapes i guess but i got that he sent us that tape to release on anathema sound and And at that time, that was kind of the point where I was ready to start doing something with Caroline. So I kind of just figured that would be the starting point for it. And we did a little split between Afterlife and Bedroom. And we released those two at the same time. And those were the first releases. So I guess it was a little over two years ago, 2010. Okay, right on.

Yeah. so it's about i guess it was a little over two years ago 2010 okay right on yeah and what was the uh the thought process behind the that comp you just did the duets comp yeah was there a reason why you wanted to do um i had been wanting to do a compilation for a while and you know so i that had always kind of been in the back of my mind um and i don't know how it came to me but i guess you know i want i wanted there to be some kind of unifying theme to tie all the uh all the artists together on it and so i just kind of figured um you know i thought there were a lot i i thought there are a lot of great you know duos out there like make making you know music that i really dug so i uh just sort of put a

list together of people i wanted to reach out to and reach out to everyone who's on there. And I got submissions by pretty much everyone I asked, except for one. Yeah. Which I think... Yeah, I kind of slept on that. I think that's been covered on this podcast already. Yeah, yeah, we talked about that, how you guys roped off to do a track.

And yeah, I was really bummed when um that tape came out and i was like oh shit this was the comp that he roped off a track for and i was like fuck now it's already out yeah and then like after i listened to it it was like i really should have came up with something but it's a really good fucking comp thank you yeah i don't think there's anything on there that is like a zoinker it's all it's all it's all good stuff thanks yeah no it's really tabs out uh top 25 tapes of 2012 number 2 did you get your care package in the mail

I have not yet assorted bath salts no I guess it must have gotten lost or something you guys accidentally sent that to me actually I've been really enjoying the bath salts those bath salts are gone right because I'm not sure. I haven't heard.

You do the label as well, right? Yeah, sure. I'm kind of the driving force behind it. I'm just the face. Right, yeah. He's the pretty face. They call him Franklin Shotgun Teagle. He's just, you just sit back and relax.

Let old McGill take care of this one. Yeah. Couldn't be further from the truth. He listens to the tapes. I listen to every tape, though. Have you really listened to every tape? Yeah. Do you own every Tranquility tape?

Yes. Well, own them because he gives them to me every single time. I was just going to ask, do you give them? Yeah, he gets free copies. Yeah. There's always a group of people you have to give copies to. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, he's not on mike but i give mike uh he does bedroom and who's here right now you want to say hi mike mike sitting on the bed in the background not sure if you could hear that but yeah i give my copies and yeah a couple friends um get copies of them so hopefully they listen to them they tell me they do yeah mike do you listen to all of them yeah yeah i was looking at it it was uh sort of unbelievable yeah i'm not convinced by that quick what do they all sound like yeah all right so what is um afterlife doing do you guys have anything coming out yeah we've got um we have a tape actually coming out on uh on tranquility tapes um probably sometime early next year it's like a c54 okay so

yeah yeah i'm excited what about like do you have anything recorded for other labels not yet no and there are a bunch of labels that that we'd like to do stuff for that we just haven't really found the time to record yet but hopefully i think you know the next couple months we'll probably try and lay some stuff new stuff down okay what about solo stuff um yeah i just finished um i just finished a kind of compiling some i don't want to call them scraps or whatever just unused material from the past two years um and i won't say because I don't know if it's sure, but that's going to be coming out sometime next year,

but we haven't really solidified it. But yeah, I won't say until I actually get an A-OK from the person that I'm talking to. But that's going to come out. I don't know what moniker it's going to be under. I might not even use one that I've used before, so you might not even know it when you see it. It's going to be Ryan McGillicuddy. Expect it when you before so you might not even know it when you see it so it's gonna be ryan mcgillicuddy power force that's actually pretty good you should

use that um other than that though that's that's about it yeah i think so i don't think there's any other stuff waiting in the wings but yeah we're gonna we've got a we're playing next february at the stone um so probably yeah you're putting together like a you're curating like a two-week We're playing next February at The Stone. Yeah, you're putting together, you're curating a two-week. Yeah. John Zorn's venue, right? Yeah, yeah, John Zorn's venue, The Stone. I put together about, I guess, 12 days of shows the first couple weeks of February.

So I'm excited to have a bunch of people come out. So who's all playing that uh so well let's see um oh Ryan and I are gonna play um Dave are gonna play and Joe I believe the Tabs Out crew yeah you guys should do a live uh Tabs Out recording oh that would be nice we should that should be your hour long set up you've got some time we should set up like at all of them and like how they have like radioathons yeah. Tab's out coming at you here from the stone. Yeah, we'll be live from the stone. Yeah.

So who else? Grant and Rachel Evans are coming up, and they're going to play solo sets. They're coming up from Georgia. Kyle Iman, who does the project Emule, is coming up from Seattle. We've got a weekend of all Montreal acts who are playing. So Frank Hobocubes is coming, his girlfriend Jane,

who does her projects, JLK, John Sebastian Trusci, Nick Maturos doing Event Cloak, a bunch of kind of, I guess, locals from the New York area, Hexbreaker Quartets playing Millions, Christopher Merritt's going to play his first ever live show. Oh, he's never played live? He's never played live before, yeah. How long has he been releasing stuff?

I think a couple years now. I mean, I did a release for him kind of early on with the label. So, I mean, that was at least like a year and a half. Is it, is it shitty to hope something goes wrong? I don't know. Like he goes to start and like everything starts, starts smoking and he falls over and shits its pants.

Yeah. Yeah. I think I said shits its pants, shits his pants. Yeah. He's a male, I believe. Um, yeah, no no i don't know um but uh yeah he i i emailed him i you know he's one of the first one of the people i thought of when i was trying to pick locals to to add to the bill and um you know i really like his stuff and i always thought it would be cool to watch him

play live so i emailed him and he's like he's like yeah you got me with this one i couldn't resist like it's a pretty good first gig yeah yeah there are a couple other like there's a group called glass house um which is a guy from brooklyn and a guy from philly um who do really nice kind of um kind of dark sort of ambient stuff um but i i'm doing a release for them in my next batch, and they're going to be playing their first show there, too. Okay. Yeah. I'm excited about it. Yeah, it should be a pretty good time.

Yeah, absolutely. I'm also pretty excited about it. Yeah. Are you excited about it, Ryan? Yeah, I'm very excited about it. Oh, yeah? Sure. Why not?

He'll somehow get credit. I am going to take credit for the whole series. I hear you're actually putting this on. Yeah, that's the word on the street. It'd be funny if people also thought Caroline Teagle was your sister. It's so weird that Franklin's last name is Teagle, but she's your sister.

She is Ryan's sister. We've just been having to explain that for the last 10 years. There's a rumor that Caroline Teagle is Ryan McGill, actually, but she's your sister. She is Ryan's sister. We've just been having to explain that for the last 10 years. There's a rumor that Caroline Teagle is Ryan McGill, actually, that she doesn't exist. Right. I can say for sure she does exist. I've met her. Have you met her? Yeah.

Because I never met her. Yeah, we went to school together. I always assumed Caroline Teagle was your wife. A lot of people have assumed that. Yeah. And then one day I think your wife got posted with her name on Facebook and it was something else. And I thought, well, that's kind of weird. Yeah.

I guess that's not Caroline Teagle. No. No, that's not. Threw my whole game off. Now I don't know what to think. Although I will say that my wife, Elisa, is definitely an unseen hand in the whole operation. She helps me put stuff together and mail stuff. And so, yeah.

It's nice to have a helpful hand yeah especially when you got a new kid around the house absolutely yeah that how old your uh son milo now he's 14 months now and that hasn't it it seems like because i know when i had a kid it really put a damper on the label but you seem to be like a just driving right through yeah you just kind of put him in a cage and i did yeah yeah you just keep going through the key and yeah it's like i need to get these tapes out now i i took a bit of a break uh ryan i hear milo's your kid yeah it's just i love i love my son he's a good he's a he's the cutest little thing in the world he's my whole world you get him on weekends and every wednesday yeah ryan's right he's my kid ryan's raising him right that's fair enough

you know it's it's an interesting dynamic no but i uh i took a break like toward the end of last year and actually i think that was at the time that i had your master and so you kind of weathered that my my you know my baby oh the label for the spectrumickets single split? Yeah. Thanks for doing that, by the way. Oh, my pleasure. It was great. But yeah, I mean, I definitely like, you know, for a while, like after a month or two, I couldn't stop thinking about putting out tapes. So I kind of, as soon as I was able to get back to it, I jumped back into it again. And I've been kind of going steady since then. And everything on Tranquility is pro-dubbed, right?

You get everything from National Audio Company? Yeah, everything's from National Audio Company. Actually, I hand-dubbed all the tapes for an hour and I had actually the room that's now my son's nursery is where I used to dub all my tapes. So a lot of that stuff is up in the basement of my uh my in-laws place now but my dubbing station isn't uh isn't you know within reach anymore so is that why you went no i wanted to do and that was one of the things starting a new label i wanted to do pro dubs just to try that out and just to you know i mean i used to like i used to definitely

enjoy the process of dubbing and i probably still still would to an extent, even though I haven't done it in a while. But after a while, it did lose its charm a little bit. So I was kind of ready to get that done. Yeah. And it definitely feels good when a box of already dubbed tape shows up at your house. Yeah, that's awesome. And Ryan's shaking his head because of it. I know all about that feeling. After running an Anthem of Sound and Tranquility tape. Oh, it's awesome. And Ryan chickened his head because of it. Yeah. I know all about that feeling.

After running anathema sound and tranquility tape. Preaching to the choir. I have everything just shipped to Ryan's house, actually. Awesome. All right. Well, thanks for sitting down and talking into these microphones. Oh, my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Thanks for having us. Yeah. Thanks for having Ryan, too. Most of all, thanks for having me. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having Ryan, too. Most of all, thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. so so so Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Are we going here? We're back. Cenote Glow. Franklin Teagle's solo project.

A.K.A. Mr. Clean. Mr. Clean. Yeah, that was a bubbly. That was a sudsy jam. Sudsy jam. I feel very good after that one. Took a nice little bubble bath. It was a nice lather. Lathered in that sound. Enza. Bath bombs. Sudsy Jam. I feel very good after that one. Took a nice little bubble bath. It was a nice lather.

Lathered in that sound. Enza Borrego. Bath bombs. Enza Borrego. C-30. On fadeaway tapes. I like the artwork on this tape. Feel that.

What is this? It's that orange peel. Oh my god. What happened to it? It's been sitting next to Dave's computer. Oh, fucking Dave's laptop. His military grade computer. Yeah computer heating up the place uh the artwork for this tape was done by um francesco de gallo next time i'm gonna bring some like uh like some deer meat make some deer jerky

jerky next to the computer you might as well uh what were you saying that the artwork for this tape this uh cenote glow tape was done by uh Francesco De Gallo, who does that project, Hobo Cubes. Oh, I like the artwork on that one. Yeah, I like the artwork for this a lot. Do you want to take your hands on that? And then we did the interview, and before that was the duets comp. The duets comp, yeah. We played the super minerals track off the duets comp.

Got the nice waffle texture around the outside of this. It's a no-take load tape. Love that. I got to say, though, not to be a Debbie Downer, but I don't like the Fade Away tapes logo. Like how the F goes down and makes a line and goes into the Y at the end. I don't know. There's just something about it.

It's a nice idea, but it's poorly executed. Let me get my hands on it. I do like orange print on the white shell. No, that's stupid. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But an awesome tape

that you may still be able to find. I'm not sure. No, I actually like the logo. I don't think you can find the Duets Company more, but you can get that. No, you can't get the Duets Company more. It's a good... It's a bummer because I slept on it, and then, you can't get the Duets Company anymore. It's a good... It's a bummer because I slept on it.

Yeah, now it's gone. Here's an idea. Just an F with like... Like the famous stars logo? Fadeaway. Here, we're going to remake... Are you brainstorming the Fadeaway logo? Yeah, we're going to remake it.

Just an F. Hold on, are we doing this for free? Yeah, just an F. And then next to it, a slightly more transparent F and it a slightly more transparent F and then a slightly more transparent F until it fades away. It's too easy.

That's what makes it memorable. The Apple logo is an apple. With a bite out of it. Well, this is multiple Fs that get more transparent. Whatever. Clever is boring. I just want a picture

of Michael Jordan dunking. A fadeaway jumper. And don't even put the word. Oh, and then change the 23 on his jersey to an F and a T. You want a really small quarter of an inch

Jordan doing a fadeaway jumper with an F and a T. Actually, I changed my mind. I want the fadeaway logo tapes to remain the same, but I want the label to now be called a tiny Jordan. A tiny Jordan. You could put a little tiny Jordan in the corner. Remember when he was rocking that Hitler mustache?

What'd you say? Remember when he was rocking that Hitler mustache for a while? Michael Jordan was? Yeah, you tried to bring it back. No, I don't remember that. What's the underwear? Hanes underwear commercials? Gotta have a big fucking ego to try to bring that back. Just in the middle, dude. Are you serious?

Oh, yeah. He was like, fuck it. If anyone can get away with it, it's Jordan. You should put a little Jordan logo standing right here on the edge, and he's shooting, and there's a little arc mark that goes up to the spool, and the spool's the basketball. Oh, the spool's the basketball. I like that. I got a whole idea

now that I'm here. I got a whole new label working on it. I'm going to be up all night. A new aesthetic. Alright, Joe B., you want to... Oh, shit. You know what I should mention? Yes. That I guess if you're listening to this, you're probably... You went to TabsOut.com,

right? Check out Tabs out.com, right? Check out tabs out.com. But I should say that, um, there's a, uh, a tranquility tapes sampler. Oh,

the sampler that's available. That's live. Once this episode is live. Oh, nice. So we'll be available for download. That's out of print stuff. It's like seven tracks that I believe are all out of print. And then three upcoming tracks.

Oh, that's nice. Yeah. A little Tabs Out. Exclusive. Ten tracks. Yeah. Double digits. Double digits, man.

It's a mixtape. So, yeah. Get that at TabsOut.com. Which, I mean, if you're listening to this, you're at TabsOut.com. Unless you're on like a Russian site. You can getOut.com. Unless you're on a Russian site and you get these for free. Dave's mom was like, duh. All right, Joby, what do you got? Dave's mom.

Oh, Speddy. It's my birthday. End the game. End the game. End the game, fellas. I'm going to play one of these thou tapes off this thou box set that Southwood out. With another label, right? Peasant Magic and Drugged Conscience. Yeah.

I really wish I took better care of mine. Yeah, I was going to say, man. You destroyed this bar. It was in my car and it just destroyed. It's just destroyed. It was in my car, and it just destroyed. It's just destroyed. It was so messed up. I feel like there should be postmarks and stamps. Someone just mailed you this box like that.

Thanks, Al, for this, because I really didn't take care of it. No, and this was a nice box. Oh, it's really nice. Was it three tapes? It it. No, and this was a nice box. Oh, really nice. Was it three tapes? It's three tapes. And it's a little custom. It's all screen printed by hand. Yeah, like a black box.

And I'm like, I'll just throw that in my car. Dave's got a case of the giggles. That'll be fine. She just looks so... Like, you know that scene from Napoleon Dynamite when they're selling the Tupperware and the one guy in Kip is like, you know,'re selling the Tupperware and the one guy in Kip is like you know backs over the Tupperware with the van

like I imagine that's what you did with this box I was like yeah sit on that and then someone sat on it and was like oh that's fine my friend Sal put it out it doesn't matter and the bottom is all spring he pulled it out of his back pocket and threw it on the table this is horrible look at the tapes

oh my god yeah because the tapes. Oh my god. Yeah, because the tapes, there's three tapes inside of this box. And the tapes each have little, what would you call these things? Like die cut packs that they go in. That are also like screen print. There's a leaf in this one. No, that's the packing material. I want to get into that.

Oh, I didn't get anything. Oh, okay. I want to get into that story. I feel like I got like peppers with mine or something. Hot peppers? No, that's in the v material. I want to get into that. Oh, I didn't get anything. Oh, okay. I want to get into that story. I feel like I got peppers with mine or something. Hot peppers? No, that's in the vial. The vial's in there. Oh, I didn't get grass in mine. You didn't get grass in yours? No.

Well, maybe I'll tell you why. Okay, let's go over all this. Max Gamble ordered this. Okay. So, friend of the show. Friend of the show. It took a really long time to get to him. And when he did get it, you know, he opened it up, played it. Let me get a taste of that, Dave. What do you got?

Just a swig. Twin Lakes Pale Ale. Ooh, brought to you by Twin Lakes Pale Ale. Sponsor of the show. Just a taste. He had allergic reaction to this plant material that's in here. Are you serious? Yeah.

Do you, like, break out in hives? Yeah, I think he had trouble breathing. Because he just had it out in the open. Well, when you weigh 80 pounds, anything can kill you. Some sort of violent allergic reaction to this packing material. So maybe they stopped doing that. So what is in there? There's a vial of something.

More plant material. Okay. And then there's a patchial of something. More plant material. Okay. And then there's a patch and a sticker. And then each of these tapes, and these are all pro-dub tapes, and they're all... This is a really serious package. I really wish that I took better care of it. Yeah, I know.

What is this an edition of? You know what? I'm not sure because I don't think it says it anywhere. Look at all this stuff I'm leaking out of it. I know there's shit all over the table now. So we'll just pick

one of these. I already have one in my hand here. All right. Play that one. Now is the track called Peasant or is this a peasant

and then something else says magic? You know, nothing else says magic and I was looking at that earlier because one says singles and one says tyrant.

Tyrant is the name, no, Kingdoms is the name of the box. I don't know what's going on. Thank you. guitar solo We face the truth And I'm led To a low I'm broken To a low, low-flying god The rhapsody of no I'll break your heart As the ground Has been hit

The better The better I'm better At rest from now I'm not ready What I've become I am nothing Fire on You can't win Come back You can't win Come back I am gone I am gone

Gone We are Bound As A Sand And Lead To

The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End Of The End We are the The The The The The The The The

The The The The The The The Every age Generations of Life Of hands In the bridge to a

Land Deception Of hands Love, deception Open, an original Love, desolation Open, an original Hold hands And I'll reach you all Love Self-destruction Oh yeah We are

The incompletes But no Foreign Master I'm so far away Spy is bastard No Thou Thou. Thou. That was a track from the Thou box set,

Kingdoms on Peasant Magic and... Drugged Conscience. Drugged Conscience. Always enjoy Thou. Two labels that probably aren't around anymore. I don't know anything about Drugged Conscience. I don't know anything about them either. But Peasant Magic definitely is not around.

Are they still doing that box set? No. We have all, everyone in this room currently is sending a track. I'm sending a track and you guys are sending a track. For like Pezza Magic 100. I think he's still waiting on the helm track or something. That's hilarious. All right, Dave, you want to go?

Yeah. Let's do this beaut of a tape over here. that's hilarious alright Dave you wanna go yeah let's do this beaut of a tape over here I've been waiting for this one all night what do you got I got this tape that's the J card it's made out of a real Bud Light can

Raven's edition Baltimore Raven's edition amazing careful you'll cut yourself on that If you guys want to check that out Wait how do you know it's Baltimore Raven's edition Because it's got the Baltimore Ravens on the spine Wow I'm glad that he

And like the way they cut it Like that's perfect Wow yeah there's like There's a strip That says limited edition. And it's the same size as the spine. They were really stoned and looked at the can and was like yo.

We cut this into a J card. No, I bet you that's the only one that's like perfect. We just so happened to get that one. Smooth and refreshing light beer. When did light beer become a thing? I saw a, what was that art?

Don't touch it too hard because you'll cut yourself. What was that art show called? Art. Beauty. Drama. Up in Providence. That,

like, The Lightning Bolt place? Yeah. Fort Thunder? There was an art show like four years ago. Oh, an art show. Brian Chippendale

and Matt Brinkman and a bunch of people had some stuff in. It was called like, I forget what it was called it was at RISD I don't know what you're talking about and it was like all like flyers and it was like that thing called like

what was it called Sherpa? I can't remember but there was like a flyer gallery of like Providence shows. And some of them for this one show were a bunch of like squashed like Bud Light cans with a head white out on them. And that was the flyer? That was the flyer, yeah. It was like a bunch of those cans.

It was pretty awesome. Nice. I have a book that I bought that's in like the bathroom that I know you've looked at before. That's from that? That's from that. It's like the thing from that show? I don't remember. I don't remember.

Look at it. All right. So, Dave, what is this tape? I think the name of the project is Live Shit, Binge, Purge. It's all one word. You know what's funny about that is that title, because that's obviously a playoff. Live Shit, Binge Purge. The Metallica box set.

A while ago at my parents' house, I just was rifling through some stuff, and I found a stack of comics. You remember when Superman died? That's a question, Dave. So when I ask you a question, I want you to fucking answer me. You don't remember when Superman died?

I'm not a comic book guy. That rocked the nation. What do you? I'm not a comic book guy. That rocked the nation. What do you mean you're not a comic book guy? Oh, wait, no, no. I do kind of remember. There was like, yeah. I remember seeing the comic book cover. Anyway, Mike.

Yeah? After Superman died, they put out four new comics of the four new Superman. Mm-hmm. And everyone bought them. Okay. Thinking they'd be worth money. But everyone bought them and saved them,

so they're not worth anything. Anyway, so I picked those up from my parents' house and in that was the stencil that came with the live shit binge and purge. The Metallica thing that was like a weird cross... It was like a figure with two... Anyway. I thought it was interesting.

Anyway. This is on one of the mislabeled... It's like MT5 MT6 See I think this is MT6 But this says FD number 3

On the tape This is the same label They put out Wait and then This says MT5 That's not The I know but this

I thought Yeah that's MT5 I thought the tape stuff Was MT6 No the The tape stuff was MT6. No, the tape stuff is MT5. The label is MT6. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

This was the same label that released the, what is it that we played? The Legless and Concrete Cassette Duo. Which was like the worst cover art ever. We should have played for the body-themed episode because we just so happened to run into this dude. This is where we got this tape. We ran into him at a show in Newark

and he just so happened to have on him another copy of that Legolas and Palm Trees cassette duo tape from like 2005 that he only made 30 copies of. He had another one. I got one too. He had two of them. He had two of them.

Did you call you guys one of those? All the stuff he gave us. So great. We're going to play a little bit off of this. I haven't heard this. I don't know what it's... I don't even know what size. There's no screw in this. The tape has pages from

Sports Illustrated. It's like... Baltimore Ravens still shots. Yeah. Can't wait to hear it like glued on you. I can't believe you haven't listened to this

yet. No no. I wanted to do a cold special treat cold listen. All right. Well I'll put in whatever side I think

is rewound because like the tape wouldn't. Yeah you can't tell and there's no screws and like OK I'll put on this side.

This is great. Alright, so here's either live or live shit binge purge on Metallica. On MT5. MT5? MT5. Maybe, I don't know. It says FD number 3 on it. Whatever that is. We'll look it up.

I'll look it up when we go. It's very confusing. Thank you. Thank you. so so Thank you. so ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. live shit binge purge live shit binge purge whatever live shit, binge purge, whatever. On some label. Yeah, I'm finding something here that says that the label is their label called LSBP Editions. Oh, okay. So who knows? It's an unpredictable Baltimore trio. And they return with this free rock American football parody.

And Dave, you're pointing out because I said this is an edition of 24. And you got really excited. We were like, oh, that's okay. It's a pure 24. Do you think it was one case? Well thought out.

You think one case of Bud Light made the packaging for these tapes? You don't think they messed up once? They cut every... One guy didn't cut it off. I don't know. The labels for the tapes are from the sports section of the Baltimore Sun. So crack one open and the tailgate party starts now oh good stuff

right on you want to go over some new releases? let's do it some new tapes that came out since the last holodeck have you heard of this label holodeck? have you heard of this? have you seen this?

holodeck just put out five tapes. I'm not familiar with too many of the artists. Thousand Foot Whale Claw, Mazagana, Silent Land Time Machine, and Survive. I don't know. But they put out an M. Geddes Genghis tape

called Beyond the Curtain. I kind of wish it was Thousand Island Whale Claw. Thousand Island. That would be good. I don't know too much about this label or the artist. I ordered that M. Genghis Genghis tape and everything looks really cool. Holodeck is the name of that.

And then Hooker Vision dropped three new tapes. They're some lookers. Always are. It's a Coyote Image Classic which is Grant and Rachel Evans is that like a two cassette thing

yeah it's a double cassette that they did it looks a lot like a housecraft tape oh okay but yeah and a Sparkling White

Pressure tape and a Digital Native tape it looks like they come in those tinted shells like pink and one's pink

and one's yellow yeah I don't like the tinted shells I don't know the tinted gel. That looks like banana to me. Banana, but not yellow? It always reminds me of that Alice in Chains record. Yeah, you brought that up last time.

It's like 90s. It just reminds me of the 90s. Remember the Faith No More tape? Like a hacker's VHS comes in one of those. Dokoro put out a tape by someone called Magnikring, maybe? All the fluid is floating, C60. Teflon Beast put out an Arclight tape. Do you remember we played Arclight?

Oh, we played Arclight. Yeah, it was like that. You really liked it. I did really like it. Yeah, it was really good. I forget where it was on. What label was that on? Was it on that dude that did Road Cops?

It was on the same label as a Road Cop tape. Was it? Yeah. Was the Arclight tape the one that came with the fabric J card? Yeah. Yeah, what label was that? I can't remember. Anyway, Arclight has a new tape out on Teflon B.

It's called The Beginners. Skell, which is Mike Griffin's label, who does Parishi, that label, just put out five new tapes. Mortis, Artist in the Black Hand, C40, Skullorian Sound Sculptures, C60. This is on Skell?

This is all on scale, yeah. A split between Savior and someone named Grabass Cowboys. I'm not sure who that is. Kraken Mare and Urkas. Nice. Syncope, which I think they're from Italy. Syncope. I might be wrong.

Put out a crystal plumage tape. No Dolby C23. And a tape by somebody called... I'm assuming it's pronounced Brutal Orgasm. But it's spelled B-R-U-I-T-A-L-O-R-G-A-S-M-E. I had a brutal orgasm with Dave's mom last night. You didn't. Don't say that

I put out a batch of tapes Which was a fucking nightmare I won't get into all that I think you have to now Yeah you have to get into it I'll say what they are first What label did you do? 905

Am I slurring my speech? No, no, no. 905 Tapes. .com Damn, I did a tape for you. I think it's Voice of the Valley themed, your tape. You called it Pinterest. Pinterest? I'm looking at that right now. Yeah. A Roman Wolf tape, which is Donovan from

Arabian Blade. And Two Inches of Blood. What's his hardcore band? I Hate Your Guts. Two Inches of Blood. I's his hardcore band? I Hate Your Guts. Hate Your Guts. Two Inches of Blood. I did a split with Parishi, Weather Parishi split, Sparkling Wide Pressure tape, Mike Shifflett. That guy spits them out, doesn't he? Sparkling Wide Pressure dude.

He's got quite a discography. He does. It's all really good. I've been trying to do a tape for him for a while. And a Derek Rogers C-62. What happened with these tapes is it was just all fucked up the dubbing was fucked up everything was fucked up and i didn't even notice on most of my packaged all the orders up and then luckily dave brought it to my attention

and i just like i just like didn't even try to figure out exactly what the problem was i just made all new masters unpackaged all the orders, redubbed everything, and then packaged everything back up. And it was, but I watched a movie called Goats with David Duchovny while I was doing it. Is this when he's like an old hippie dude? Yeah.

Yeah, he's like, and he's not like an old hippie dude. Yeah, I guess he's like an old hippie dude. A pseudo father figure too. Yeah. Yeah, I watched a preview for that. It looked pretty cool. It was pretty good.

It was funny. I liked it. Guys, testicle comes out twice. Out of a sack? No, out of a bathing suit. Yeah, it looked pretty cool. It was pretty good. It was funny. I liked it. Guys, Testicle comes out twice. Out of a sack? No, out of a bathing suit. Yeah, it's pretty sick. It comes out.

Oh, all right. That's hot. Spoiler alert. I had an accident who sends in updates on the regular. Still haven't gotten a single tape from him, have we? No. Put out two tapes by Bizert and Perkin Warbeck. Oh, I love that Perkin Warbeck.

I'm starting to think they're just making these up now. It sounds like Perkin Warbeck. What do they sell, tile? Yeah. Conjuring Sound just dropped some beauts. Oh, you're never going to get those. No. But they look pretty incredible.

Yeah, they're in the mail. Send those out. I'm sending those out right now. Stone Leather, Red Rot, Jason Zay, German Army, Pharmacon, and Bad News cassettes. Who's Pharmacon? I know the name. I don't really know too much about the project.

Like, who does it? I know who Pharmacon is now. Okay. They're the pharmaceutical giants that are, like,'re the pharmaceutical giants that are controlling the pharmaceuticals. Who's playing the tape? You are.

Is it my turn? Yeah, it's your turn. You're going to play that. Another jam off the top 25. I'm scoping the site right here. Number 10, made in the top 10. It's the Quiet Evening's former self split on Constellation Tatsu,

which is, I believe, a fairly new label. At least I just discovered them for myself not that long ago. And this tape, it's pretty awesome cover art. And then the tape is one of those real tapes, reel-toel to reel tapes Yeah that thing looks sick With like the little like logo on there

Little egg logo Yeah the little egg logo And it's like you know all clear with two big white reels in there Yeah it's fucking It's a beautiful tape I so bad want to take one of those parts To see if they're like metal reels Or if they're just like plastic

with like a textured paint on them. No, that's plastic. You think they're plastic? Yeah. Alright, so I'm going to play the former self side. I believe it has three tracks on it. First track is called Past Lives. Probably play that.

So here is I don't know where I was going with that and then uh and then continue doing a podcast i suppose so here is former selves off the split with quiet evenings on constellation tattoo Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I've former selves off the split with Quiet Evenings And Consolation Tattoo Biner Former Selves is the project I believe of

One Paul Scombsfold Not sure who that is World Project Sure You just said his name Alright B you got a

Something you want to play Yeah I want to play A song from this Red Red Ruby tape on MT5 which is Matt Riley who's

a good friend of ours I did a tape for Matt Riley yeah it's a good jam he sent me the cover art was like he recorded over

a Grateful Dead bootleg right and then but the rest of the tape so the Grateful Dead bootleg like Right, and then he sent me and so the Grateful Dead bootleg was at the end and then it was like the J card was for the Grateful Dead bootleg

with all the track listing on it and that was the cover for the tape. Yeah, it was pretty good. Very conceptual. It was a coffee ring on the J card. What? It was like a coffee ring on the J card. Was there a coffee ring on the J-Card. What? It was like a coffee ring on the J-Card. Was there a coffee ring on the J-Card?

He hand screen printed all these, which are pretty cool. Whoa. Not just the cover, but the Norelco. Yeah, the two color on the Norelco and then like three color on the J-Card. That's a tricky thing, too. I'd imagine to put some print on a Norelco. What label is that on? MT5.

MT5 put that out? MT5. Palm Tree's Legolas tape that we were just talking about. Wow. Two sizes every corner, I suppose. Yeah, look at that. This is like a night and day difference.

The screen on the Norelco is like a frame, like a picture frame, like golden image. Mike, get a picture of that and put it on the Facebook. You can't do that. Put that on the Noroco is like a frame, like a picture frame, like golden screen image. Mike, get a picture of that and put it on the Facebook. You can't do that. Put that on the book face. All right, so let's play. You got this queued up, you said?

Yeah, it's side two. Did you put side two in? Oh, God. Yeah. It's either two or Z. Is there a side? Is there a side? One. One, and then is that side?

Okay. Side Z. If the zombies Put it on tape Would they be called Side Z I like that the Norelco case has Oh wait that was

Okay I just spotted MT5's contribution To this What The On the back of the cover There's like Handwritten

There's like handwritten Numbering on the shell No I kinda like that Oh wait that's in gold Nevermind It's in gold. Never mind. It's in gold on the actual Norelco case. That looks good. 29 out of 48.

That way the two never get separated. What's the project called? Red Red Ruby. Here's some Red Red Ruby. Thank you. Thank you. ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Let's pray. Thank you. Oh, it's a light that always can be cried. Oh, it's a light that always can be cried. Thank you. Oh, I'm falling in love, I'm getting close to your side Oh, I'm falling in love, I'm getting close to your side

It's burning in my heart Red, red ruby. My Riley tape on MT5. Check that shit out, yo. Dave, what you got? Nice peaceful jam there. Let's do this Jonathan James car tape. You ever listen to that Human Bell record? Human Bell?

No. No? It's on Thrill Jockey? Matt's on that record. Oh, yeah? Intense. What is it? It's David Humanis and Nathan Bell.

Nathan Bell was in Lungfish. Okay. Yeah. And what kind of stuff? It kind of sounds like Earth, but way better. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Way more going on.

Not to diss Earth, because the Earth records are great, but... It came out years ago. Like newer Earth, or like old Earth? No, like new Earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the clean Earth. Like Americana type? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But Matt's on that record. I think he did some shows with them when they were together. They only put that one record out on Thrill Jockey, but it's really, really good. Nice. Matt told me a story. They recorded with Paul Oldham, which is Will Oldham's brother. But they stayed at Will Oldham has a house, I guess.

I don't even know if it's Kentucky or Iowa, whatever Midwest state that is. But when they got to Will Oldham's house, I guess. I don't even know if it's in Kentucky or Iowa, whatever Midwest state that is. But when they got to Will Odom's house, he wasn't there, but he had prepared beds with them with little... The things you wear, the masks you wear. The sleep masks. The sleep masks laid out for all of them.

That's weird. Kevin Greenspun wore a sleep mask when he crashed here. Did he really? Yeah, I took a picture of him. He doesn't know about it. Maybe I'll put that up on the internet later. Was it like silk? I didn't touch it. Well, you can't tell from a distance.

He said he'd never used one until recently and now it's great. I'm really thinking about trying one. What does it... I don't understand it. You put it on your eyes. I get that part of it. You look with your eyes. You see with your eyes.

But now with this on, you can't. Touch with your nose. All right, Dave, you want to play this... What is it, John Wilkes Booth? Jonathan James Carr. Some dude who's in a project called Brain Fruit from Seattle. I don't know, but he's like a classically trained pianist. You think you're better than me?

What's that mean? He took lessons from five to eight. So he's classically trained. I guess so, yeah. Exactly. Fuck you. I bust my ass down at the pepper plant every day. Every day, hauling pepper.

You know? So you can say you're classically trained at piano. Not only do I have to deal with the assholes at the salt factory, but I got to deal with you? This was also on the top 25 list. No disrespect to you, because that's, you know. Dude, a date? What? It's really hard when your rich parents send you to piano because that's, you know. Two to date? What?

It's really hard when your rich parents send you to piano lessons. I don't know anything about this guy. I'm sorry, poor people don't learn how to play piano.

No, they play pian-y. They do ragtime. All right, let's have dissonance. I really want to hear this tape. Sorry. It's the end of the night. Shit gets loose. This was also on our top 25 list.

Oh, nice. It's a wild time. Wild times. This tape also on Field Hymns. I really like the cover of this tape. There's another Field Hymns download code inside there. Son of a bitch. You hate it.

Joby hates it. What is this tape called? Putns download code inside there. Son of a bitch. You'll hate it. Joby hates it. What is this tape called? Put a little tag in there. It's called Well-Tempered Ignorance. All right, well, here's a little bit from... What was his name? Jonathan James Carr. Jonathan James Carr.

Use my full name. No, I'm sorry. I'm not... Sorry, come on. We don't know this guy. We don't know this guy. We were recorded abroad. We obviously respect your music. He'm not. Sorry, come on. We don't know this guy. We don't know this guy at all. We were recorded abroad. We obviously respect your music.

He recorded these abroad in India and Berlin. Ooh. Berlin is like the new hit place since the wall fell down. Didn't David Bowie go there? David Bowie? David Hasselhoff. Oh, you're right. He's huge.

Wait, did you seriously just mix up David Bowie and David Hasselhoff? No, no. There's a David Bowie album. Yeah, he went out to Berlin because he got really into the krautrock stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Brian Eno. Wait, you weren't joking? Brian Eno produced it or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You weren't joking? David Hasselhoff went out to Berlin for something? Well, David Hasselhoff is huge in Germany. Oh, Hasselhoff, Hasselhoff. And so is Boyz II Men. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Jonathan James Carr. Is that a good tape? I like when Dave looks around for everyone else to come back in from the tape.

It's getting late, man. He's just staring at you with his eyes wide open. It's two in the morning. My eyes are wide open. It doesn't feel like it. If I stay awake for four more hours, I'll be awake for 24 hours. Should I just do it? I would do it, yeah, if I was you.

There was one time that I stayed up not on purpose for 36 hours. I went to a show with Chris Crust on a weeknight to see Ask Mother's Temple, and the sound guy was having problems, and we didn't get home until 5 in the morning. I tried to fall asleep, had to get up at 6. I just stayed up all night. And then the following night,

I had a show that I had to play, and I ended up staying up late. And on the drive home, my mouth made noises like on its own. It was the weirdest, scariest thing. I was just like, ah! You record it? No, I was driving home.

Put that out. It's so weird that fatigue could do that to you. Yeah. Just make your mouth move. Just trying to make you go to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. This is what happens when you show up all late Joe well you know we get a late

start all right so you what are you saying you want to want to go out here let's go out with a bang all right I'm gonna play this this would be a smooth transition from the the dog at the end of that tape I like the dog at the end like What is that, a corgi? The birds in the beginning of this one. Because I'm going to play the Mike Shifflett nature scene cassette that I did on 905 that I just put out.

Raymond! Raymond! What are you guys doing? You sound like the older brother. Everyone loves Raymond. Ma. Come on, Ma. Raymond.

These are some deep references you're getting into. It's a program. Everyone loves Raymond. It's Ray Romano. It was on for a really long time. I think it's in syndication. Yeah, it's definitely in syndication. What's his name?

Who was the dad? Pete. Peter. Who's the boss? Peter Dinklage. Peter Dinklage. That wasn't it. Tell us about this tape, Mike.

Raw and processed field recordings, analog and digital synthesizers, computer and guitar. Recorded summer 2012 in urban and rural central Ohio by Mike Shifflett. I'm going to play a little bit off the A-side. Milkweed. Clear Creek. Thistle. What's with you and thistle?

The shamrock and thistle. When have I ever said thistle? When has Steve ever said thistle before? I had this weird synapse On the phone He keeps saying thistle Alright episode 16 All hours of the night

Thistle thistle thistle Thanks to Franklin and Ryan For doing the interview And Franklin for putting together The Tranquility sampler. Everyone check that out. Download that. Download it at TabsOut.com. TabsOut.com.

Dot com. Dot com. All right. You can only get it here, folks. Is that going to stay up forever? Or are you going to take that? As long as the internet's around. That's a philosophical question, Joe.

Yeah. I mean, once it's on the internet, it's on the internet. I understand that. It's in the cloud. In the cloud. Do you think this is going to be an archived site eventually? The way that Geocity sites are archived now? They have the WayWay back machine and you can look at

old Geocity sites and they'll have like... I think in like 20 years. What I mean is are you going to take that down off tabs.com in like a month? Or is that just going to stay on? No, leave it up. Leave that up. All right, cool.

Is it going to be a new thing? Are we going to do this? Yeah, I think we got a lot of stuff in the works. In the works. All right. Got some stuff brewing in the pot. Yeah, we'll keep it all under wraps right now. But in the meantime, closing out episode 16, Mike Shiflett. um I'm going to take a break. Thank you. so Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and get back to the car. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and get back to the car. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and get back to the road. I'm going to go ahead and get back to the bus. Thank you. so Thank you.