Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #174 | 2.13.22

Episode Date: February 13, 2022

Drafting, PBK & C Reider, -otron, Chaperone, La Roche, Yassine Ould Nana, Vitalis/Computer, SW1n-Hunter, CC Sorensen, Maya Weeks, Aaron Oppenheim, and a visit from Andrew Weathers of Full Spectrum Records

I'm telling you man, this stuff will poison your mind. Tabs out. Cassette Podcast, episode number 174. Something a little off there. Something a little different. Jamie, have you... I'm Mike, by the way. I'm Jamie.

Jamie, have you rendered the theme song or added reverb to it? I did not get it professionally mastered. I know there's a lot of mastering engineers chomping at the bit to just master everything, and my stuff is all unmastered. Okay, so did you unmaster the theme song? It sounds a little bit different. I noticed that's a little bit different.

We'll just right out of the way, clean cut, pull the band-aid right off. Dave and Joe are not here Jamie is now Dave and Joe Dave and Joe Jamie can you give me some like Jamie's gonna give me some background music not a cow he's gonna give me like some like somber

like I'm breaking the news you know like I'm breaking bad news to the kids can you do that i'm trying i'm trying okay this is more breaking news like i was thinking so when you were delivered bad news as a kid from your parents did they put on like tom brokhoff i just want everyone to know that dave and joe are not coming back or maybe they will come back but right now they're in a bit of a um

like a cuomo brothers situation i have i have sent them away jamie you are now here they're on sabbatical can we just say that they're on rumspringa they're on paid sabbatical they are not on paid sabbatical they are on unpaid leave they're under house arrest um i'm hoping jamie will be able to talk about cassette tapes and um use sound boards and record so far so good. Just think about it makes me mad. Um, I'm hoping he can also record everything and do all this stuff that Dave used to do that. He never taught me,

even though I told him so many times, I'd love to learn computer and I'd love to learn how to do stuff. Yes, it sounds very nice. Oh, but those days are over. But Jamie, you're here. Yeah, and I'm a bit of a tech head.

You are a bit of a... I can handle all the routing and all the ins and outs. And you got a noise noggin. So you're going to listen to some of these tapes and you're going to know all the noises on them. I got a refined palate. You're going to be able to... You're going to analyze all the sounds that you hear i'm like a somalia for music

you is is that something already somalia for music i think so yeah they sampled the different frequencies and they say that one a bit nutty that one's fruity well maybe we have in this enormous pile all these tapes we haven't done an episode in a while. The end of 2020, excuse me, 2021 episode, the end of the year episode was the last one that we did. And then it's been a while

and the packages have been coming. We have been receiving your tapes. They've been showing up. There's quite a pile here. There's a spread. Do you remember when Trump had like that college football team? Oh, say no more.

He had the cheeseburgers, many, many french fries and Big Macs. That's the kind of spread. In fact, Jamie, get a picture of the spread. I'll get a picture on my phone. Jamie's getting a picture of the spread. It's not quite as elegant as Trump's display, but he's got people working for him. Yeah, yeah. We're doing all this. This is yeah. We're doing all this.

This is DIY. We're doing all this on the fly. Experimental stuff. But why don't we open some of these packages, see what's inside of them, see if they work, and... Yeah!

Want to play something? And we'll catch up. Jamie, grab the first package. Okay. I'm taking my headphones off, so... Let's see what he gets. Is he going to pick... Is he going to pick something international?

No, mine went for the purple. You went for the purple one. This is a good... This is some good advice, then, I think, for people sending tapes. You want it to pop. This is like an aubergine bubble mailer. It's from Candlepin Records in Boston, Massachusetts. Yeah, so I haven't heard shit about Candlepin Records't know don't know hell about them this could all be awful

but they got some pins in here i gotta be careful i don't get poked yeah don't send the pins because jimmy pokes himself but a little advice use a nice a lilac or a burgundy yeah something soft something palette color what three tapes did they send? I hope these aren't bad. I don't want to start off with something bad. There's one that... Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. We have breakage.

One of the Norelco cases is broken. This is an issue. This is a reoccurring issue. Okay, the first one is by The Husbands. The second one is by Drafting. And the third one is by NGC third one is by ngc i think i got that right hand them to me why don't you know any of those artists yeah me neither i have no clue who this label is the naroko case is i can confirm jamie was not lying they are broke as shit

which they typically are um i never heard of this label this one's the moon shuts off sometimes a little altar boy or something on the cover holding a little crucifix candle I'll tell you what candle pen records if this sucks I'll tell you one thing they sure spring for these the stickers oh yeah look at this inside they got all kinds of ephemera in here seems like a fairly new label there's not a whole lot on bandcamp few releases few pieces of merch beautiful like uh presentation on all of these yeah i like the i like the art i dig the art i dig the art too uh do you have a uh any kind of informational when any of these came out who any of these artists are i'm right, so the artist is called NGC4414.

That's the artist's name. Yeah, OST is the name of the tape. Yeah. Original soundtrack. Okay, this one was released May 7th, 2021. Okay. And is there a description for it? No, no description.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry with the huff and puff, Jamie. I'm sorry if I'm asking too much of you. No description, but the tags, IDM, intelligent dance music ambient drone electronica experimental field recordings minimal soundscape, Tennessee Boston I don't know where the Tennessee came from maybe maybe this artist is from Tennessee That's a lot of different genres though. Yeah, I think they're just trying to cast a wide net and yeah

See what they can pull up on Bank Camp friday pretty much anything with with a synthesizer what's the same thing size what is a synthesizer you can do a lot with them these days and what is this one right here with a bunch of buildings on the front drafting everything is coming up oh yeah i have a feeling that looks like some new england architecture that could be some all right so this one does have information. It says, Drafting is Andy Gilbert, Nigel Meyer, Jake Tapley. Recorded in Louisville.

Where they make the bats. Louisville, yeah. Doesn't say much about genre. Oh, slowcore. Mm, real slow. So they take a song and they slow it down? Yeah. All right.

I'll play that. I play slow music sometimes. Remember slow TV? Remember when Netflix tried to do slow TV? No, I don't know. You don't remember this? It was bullshit like they would have a train. You would just watch a train.

Oh, it's like putting the fireplace on your TV type thing? Yeah, it's like the fireplace, but other stuff. Oh, other stuff. Okay. Okay, so we're going to play these two? Yeah, is this the first? Are these the initial releases from this label uh you told me they were new no i'm glad to believe they're sold out no sold out the first one is a mixtape uh purple flowers mixtape a whole bunch of artists i don't know any of these artists but

sometimes that's good sometimes you're discovering new worlds. Listen, we're about to break. Listen, the candle, what are they called? Candle piss? What was this called? Candle pin. Candle pin. Yeah.

Candle pin has been waiting for their big break. Well, guess what? Tabs Alcocet Podcast is about to lift you out of whatever dunkin' donuts parking lot you're in up there, and we're about to clean you off. We're going to say, listen, kid, you got your big break. Eight people listened to this shit. You're leaving leaving off the podcast you can't go wrong there well you're just one of the enlightened you're about to become enlightened by this music grab another okay and i want to say for drafting you don't you should feel good about yourself too because these other ones what were they they? They're not getting played.

Yeah, that's right. Who knows what they sound like? No one knows. But you know what? My eye is going to the next colorful one. There's a nice teal colored mailer over there. See, I knew you were going to go for that one. That really does not sound right.

You love the ones with the different colors. Hold on. Let me see before you open it, because I want to... Robert Pepper? No. No. No. Take another one because I want to... Robert Pepper? No. No. Take another one. Okay.

No, Robert Pepper is not. That's fake. Take somebody else. Sorry, Rob. This one is another. This is from C. Reader. C. Reader. Is it Reader or Reider?

I don't know. All right. All right. I'll go with this. The color is... What color is this? Rust. Rust.

Good. Iron. Iron. Yeah, it's like a rust envelope. Yeah. I like how we have deteriorated to just talk. Just fucking reviewing the packaging. The bubble mailer.

I don't want to do the tapes anymore. Just throw the tapes away, and I just want to talk about the bubble mailer. I hope you're not buying from Uline. Oh, yeah. By the way, don't buy from Uline. Okay. There's only one tape in here this is a pbk and c reader controlled flight into terrain we're gonna have to real quick come up with a like a style guide because i say

rider is it reader i don't know i've been saying rider my whole life. Your whole life? Fucking whole life. When I was a little bambino. Gee, what happened? So PBK, which stands for something, right? I forget what PBK is. I know what that is. I'll do. I want to say plastic boner band, but I know band begins with another letter.

But it is something. I'm swarming on Discogs right now. I'm going to get there before for you i'm mining the data philip b clingler oh yeah oh look at the look at his profile picture oh yeah i do not want to mess with a little sinister there he's got the necklace a little sinister he's got a nice yeah looks like he's about to rip my head off and shit down my throat are you kidding me a little sinister okay so there's going to be some... This is going to be a scary-ass tape, is what I'm assuming, right?

I think it's going to be a little bit like... Here, I'll tell you what it's going to sound like. Okay, so we don't even need to play it then. I think we've summed it up. Okay, I will say... stock is a bit maybe okay maybe my standards are just higher than others maybe i expect more but this is like a like a 24 pound bond like this is like computer paper it seems like printer inkjet paper i'm gonna need like some kind of i'll give you this the fold is good you did an excellent fold look at this crease it's a sharp crease i could i could get a paper

cut from this crease but the printing if pbk or c reader if they try to tell me that their printer didn't say you're currently low on toner refill toner when they were printing this i'm just not going to believe them well you know uh you know maybe they think it's selling out to use a better quality stock this is like uh this is the original i have another really good criticism and it's like an old school tabs out criticism okay it's like episode like 15 style like no handwriting is like all the tabs that you popped out the tab and it's actually you left a little bit of plastic like that kind of bullshit look at the the the label on the shell looking like the center of the label it's like the label itself on the shell of the tape is like brown and white there's some sort of like you know something printed on there oh i see what

you're saying it's like there's i see a little strip of rust of another orange. It's like red. It's like orange. And it doesn't go with anything at all. Do you think this is a recycled tape? No. I think they didn't know what they were doing when they printed the labels. There's two labels on there.

Feel it with your fingernail. Oh, yeah. There are two labels. Yeah. So here's the possibilities. This is either a recycled tape, which it has five screws. Very uncommon. Yeah.

I heard five. Or, and what I think this is more likely, I think this is more likely, they did this to make me a little bit upset. Really? They did it to get under my... I think they did it to get under my i think they did it to get under my skin okay okay what label is this on well i think recycling is a good thing i think more people

should be recycling yeah pbk sound 2021 okay more 2021 no 2022 stuff yet this is really you got a backlog here oh yeah we got a lot of catching up to do Okay, 2021 that's out of style already grab another This time grab I'll grab it. I'll grab an unassuming looking. Yeah grab one That looks like some dope some fucking dunce just all they had was this shitty Manila envelope the kind that when you cut it open asbestos comes out. This one's international. Let's do international. You want to do something from the UK? From the UK.

Okay. They sent it all the way over here, though I do understand it is quite a bit cheaper for them to send stuff to us than it is for us to send stuff to them. Well, I think the reason why it's so much extra for us to send stuff to them is because all the ink we have to use printing out their addresses. Many lines in a UK address. And the zip codes or postal codes are alphanumeric instead of just numeric. Sometimes it's hard to tell those ones between the L's and all that, you know?

I feel like this is a little constructive. But maybe with the Brexit, maybe they've resolved some of that. Oh, Otron.ron otron that's a name we know isn't it yeah of course have we played otron before yeah and not to be confused with utan there's utan there's otron this is a hyphen otron it's a dash and you and you know why otron this name sticks out to me because in my itunes they're always filtered to the front because the hyphen makes them go right to the front of the list. Little trick to cut yourself to the front of the line there. That is weird. Giving out a lot of good tips. Jamie, you are

a bit of a tech whiz with a noise noggin. I dabble in the digital. I dabble in the analog. I do a little bit of everything. So this Otron tape... There's like a press release in here. i love when they send the press release yeah i love now this one's just one sheet of paper so it's okay

and try that hard yeah when they bust out the stapler and they staple multiple pieces of paper together with all this information you ever get a folder no i have i yeah i've gotten shit fedex to me okay i haven't had to sign for anything yet but but I will. I'm willing to do it. Oh, I like the presentation. Yeah. It's a nice looking shell. It's a beautiful shell. It puts the C Reader BK tape to shame. There's not like an

extra... You know what I like most about this shell? It's um... It's like an all over print. Uh-huh. And it's just kind of this like abstract, like you know. It's not like that print and it's just kind of this like abstract like you know it's not like that but there's just a tiny little bit it looks like whiteout dripped on the corner

of it this purple shell with the whiteout on the corner I like that I like that little whatever you call it I will take issue with the size of this font on the inside because it's absurd is it absurdly big or absurdly small? Oh, that is small.

I need my readers. My eyes are going crazy. Yeah, that's full on. Enough. Okay. I'm doing more rules. We're giving out tips. We're doing rules.

We need to come up with a minimum font size for Jcards, and it needs to be like 13. Yeah. I mean, I can see 11 even, but that is like a six or a seven i need like three pikas worth of uh yeah i'm tired i'm i'm old it's dark in this room especially when you do like a white on purple like listen i'd love to know what synthesizers you used to record this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to know. I want nothing more to know. What kind of moogs you got?

Moogs. Oh, so you paid someone to master this. Love to know their name. Sure. Love to know their name, and I'm sure it's written in that J-card somewhere. Love to know it one day. But that's Otron Drift is the name of the tape. Yep.

Who the hell is that? And who, oh no, is Drift, is Drift the title? I think Drift's the album title. By the way, it says Mastering on the Back by Sam Brown. It's a little bit bigger, so I can see that. When you have Sam Brown master your stuff, that's in the contract. I bet you Sam Brown did the artwork as well. And he's like, well, I'll put my name,

it's going to be above the fold. You're going to see it over O-Tron. Then it says artwork by O-Tron, so it all. Okay. Is O-Tron Sam Brown? That is the question. We're going to find out if O-Tron is Sam Brown. I'm getting there, I'm getting there. I gonna get there first there's no name this is this might be an anonymous artist some of them like to be a little anonymous in case they fuck up

yeah they're on twitter let's see if they follow me this account doesn't exist i wasn't good enough all right yeah yeah all right we're grabbing another one one more one more who no mas all right and let's do let me uh pick a white envelope wait i was i was getting drawn to this midnight black well you know what there are a few boxes over there you want to do this big box or do you want to do this this looks like a vhs tape or something here hand me the big box let me see who it's from because Because some of these I am vetoing. It's pretty light for being in such a big box. Oh, it is light.

Joseph Perlman from Flushing, New York. What did you send me this time? Yeah, this is a one pound box, but the box they sent at UPS. Man, they really wanted this one to get here. See what I'm saying? Some of these freaks they really want this shit to show up. Hopefully it's a good norelco case i'm hoping it's not broken jamie i know a lot of broken ones tonight andrew weathers will be up later by the way full spectrum records

that'll be a treat oh my god what the fuck is this? Hold on. What's in here? The podcast is over. Keychains? I've never seen anything like it before. Here's the first thing. What is that, a cup of noodles? It's a cup of noodles. Oh, this is like from the Asian market. These are the good ones. These are the good ones.

Look, they're giving you a little snack. Here's another one. A little snack. I'm not eating food from the cassette community. I'm going to bring these home and eat them for lunch today. You're more than welcome. Jamie, this big box with the two cup of noodles, there's a piece of paper in here.

How many tapes do you think they sent? Because they sent two cups of noodles. Okay. There's a lot. This is very verbose. Let's see. Did they just send one tape? There's just one tape. Okay, because this is a letter.

I can't read all of this, honestly. I'm still thinking about the noodles. Yeah. I'm still thinking about the noodles. And I want to know what kind of podcast have I been doing that's giving people the vibe that's like, well, this motherfucker, I probably need to send him my noodles. Maybe people think that you don't play stuff unless it has a proper press release. Unless it has a noodles.

Or noodles. This one is an instant noodles with black bean sauce. One serving. And then this other one looks a little spicier. Okay. What is going on? No, we're not playing that tape. Let this be a lesson to you.

Do not. no more noodles i record as much as i can um jamie grab another box we're not doing the i'm not doing the noodles one grab another box i'm gonna do this vh. I like this. I like the shape of this. I hope it's... I honestly hope there's not a VHS in this that has, like, a curse on it. I like it when you get a tape in one of those large, oversized vinyl boxes, but it's just one tape in there. I like that. I like when you get a tape and there's no noodles.

I want it to take up as much space on my shelf as possible. Hold on. Do you think there are tapes in the noodles? No. Do you think that's tape packaging? Because some of these people, Jamie... You would need a heat gun to seal this back up like this. And it was frankly dumb.

Alright, I'm getting this VHS one open. Who could that be? Alright, we got two tapes in the VHS box. Moon Villain. I like that name. I know I have some stuff from Moonvillain.

These tapes are Carl Lachanan Lachanan Collections is the name of the tape. And we all walked back to the car by Chaperone? Is that what I'm looking at?

What's his name? David something or other other he played at the bike shop once really yeah yeah did i like it yeah chaperone's a cool dude okay then let's play this play the chaperone tape carl david cognata he um we met him through casey funny dude funny dude i will say i really i like the artwork on the chaperone tape a lot. Before I toss this Carl Lock Cannon tape, Lock Cannon, I need to say a few things about how beautiful the cover stock is. Okay. Now, PBK, look at this. Feel this. That's like a...

Yeah, well, this is... That's a crap stock right there look at the cross what's that cross thatching feel the texture on the back oh yeah that's like you're looking at like uh like a like a like a linen linen okay like a linen like a wove yeah this is very nice it's beautifully designed we won't be playing it the chaperone you're saying i might already like this yeah this stuff is a little bit uh techno-y and a little bit noisy and yeah and who is it david cognata oh did i say that right cocagna cocagna sorry david cocagna yep i record as much as i can yes it sounds very nice oh come on jamie jamie how are you doing old buddy okay come on, Jamie. Jamie, how are you doing, old buddy?

Okay, so... It's full of musical instruments. Jamie, how are you doing, old buddy? We all walk back to the car by chaperone. This is a 2019 one. 2019? Whoa, this is pre-COVID. This is, well, pre-pandemic. Yeah.

Well, you don't need to wear gloves when you're opening it. Well, I still do. Yeah, I still do because if those noodles taught me anything, it's that you can't trust anything that comes in here. So Moon Villain, where's that label from? Moon Villain? Come on. You're so...

Come on. Why wouldn't this guy... Is it because you're not at your house and you're a little off? I'm trying to do the soundboard, I'm trying to do the recording, I'm trying to get the Google Meet session set up for Andrew. Moon Villain is also from Boston, Massachusetts. Okay, from Boston. Maybe they can meet up with the Candlepin.

They can get together, maybe swap a little bit of secrets about how lucky they got. Well, you know why there's so many experimental labels in Boston? Why? They got a lot of colleges, a lot of smart Ivy League educated people going there. The intelligentsia. Mm-hmm. Hard time. So this is the future of noise and experimental music and things like that.

So like, Squelcher, Machine Listener, there's a lot of tapes on here this is what moon villain put out that they have sent us have been good the chaperone tape came out before all of them I guess maybe it's back stock and they're just trying to get rid of it or maybe yeah let me see if it's sold out let me see I bet it's not I bet it's not they're trying to get some buzz

okay we'll give you some fucking buzz no it is sold out oh this was enough look at it all we had to do jamie we didn't even have to put up the episode and we created enough buzz well if anybody is looking for an extra copy we're gonna we're gonna flip this tape now now that we know there's some demand pay pal me what you think is fair and i will send you the chaperone tape i'll listen as long as my accountant's not listening i'll'll send you any of these tapes. You know what I mean? All right, well, let's get into this block. Duster, PBK and C Reader, right?

Ultron and Chaperone. That's a lot of tapes. Go for it. That's not the tape. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, let's pause this I spend my weeks driving down the same streets All the houses I pass in bright colors that won't last I can't see A single cloud hang over me

Blue skies and green grass Ordinary forecast and green grass ordinary forecast every evening I want to break tradition cause something's missing It was there, but now it isn't Spent the week Underneath the same sheets Four walls and paint glass Ordinary forecast I love you. so so The The so so

so I'm going to go to the right. Thank you. so Thank you. so so Thank you. I'm going to go to bed. Bye. Thank you. I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go I'm going to go

I'm going to go Thank you. If you've ever listened to a shortwave radio, you may have come across some weird broadcasts with no normal talking. Just maybe a short tune, then other repeated sounds, and then repeated sets of numbers being spoken with synthesized voices, then music and sounds to end it, before starting all over again. These are the number stations, and they've been around since the Second World War, but their activity rose dramatically during the cold war initially they were a mystery they used powerful shortwave transmitters and yet no one claimed So what is a number station?

So what is a number station? Why are they still used? And why are you not still a number? It's believed by some that the government keep number stations as a backup for those who are not. It's believed by some that the government is keeping an observation to set back the last resort. In case of a control shutdown, follow the instructions. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What do you think, Jamie? All right. Now, I think for the next one, this next block, Jamie,

I think we should grab these three packages here. Okay. What do you call these? They're specifically made for tapes, right? These little cardboard. They are. They are. And I'm going to check each one of these to make sure they don't say Uline. Well, I wonder why they're still being made. Because with LP mailers, I feel like sometimes they're sold as made like there can't be are they because with lp mailers

i feel like sometimes they're sold as frame mailers right yeah you mail picture frames but what are they mailing besides cassette tapes in these perfectly cassette size boxes oh i don't know i got to imagine that companies like this just have every size including this one and they still make them that's so weird even these two are slightly different these two are exact exactly the same this one's a little bit different this one on noogie noogie tapes well they say it i don't know i don't know but i wanted to pick these three i mean i wanted to pick these three because i know what some of them are but but the bit about it if i want to be funny which sometimes i, which sometimes I get a little humorous, I want to pick them because I know they can't fit any noodles in there unless they have a really flat sheet.

Unless there's a lasagna noodle. And if there's a press release, they've got to keep it short and concise. To the point. And actually, now that I'm saying it, if you do want to send a lasagna noodle, like one long lasagna noodle just to see if it if it doesn't break send you know what send me when you send a tape send me the tape in the naroko case and one dry noodle it's got to be dry it can't be a homemade oh don't go fucking cooking the noodle yeah don't send me the sure great pasta great pasta don't go sending me don't go sending me a cooked floppy noodle flopping around in the thing send me a real crisp like and i just i'm just interested you know what i think is going to

be your safest bet is like a like an elbow macaroni or a ziti but if you absolutely need to make a homemade noodle just make sure you put a lot of flour on it so it doesn't stick to the contents of the package put a lot of flour on it but but but please don't send those send dry pasta if you need to send pasta and i i say jamie will once we get enough once you once we get like you know eight ounces of pasta jamie will cook it and eat it live on air oh yeah oh actually will you eat one of these noodles next time save one you oh you want to do that yeah you want to do a spicy episode you can eat these i'll tell you one thing i'm not eating the noodles okay how many scovilles is it scoville units okay i think i can handle it yeah three

three healthy meals and snacks all right i... Oh, I do have the scissors. Nike, Nike tapes, I guess, is the name of it. I ordered this one. I bought this tape. This label... I think they're from Uganda. It does say... It says Brooklyn on the mailer, but... Yeah, a lot of people are...

Yeah, this is a little bit of a hack, a postal hack. I think... Oh, yeah. Kampala, that's the capital of Uganda. And I think they do like a music festival there, a big one. Big time. I'm talking about 9,000 people. Okay. I'm talking about boiler rooms involved. Yeah, yeah.

I'm talking about, I think the government tried to get it shut down. Okay. Look up the Wikipedia page while I open this. I actually think my friend uh from delaware has played that before oh please shane uh what's his regular at the bike shop hey shane shane listening yeah shane shane listen irregularly listen to the podcast uganda music festival oh yeah it's it's uh nege nege festival collective oh there's a wikipedia about this man that's what i'm telling you it's a big

time thing okay festival okay okay since 2017 at 9 000 attendees it's the biggest electronic musical festival in east africa in 2018 uganda's main tourism trade group named the festival the best overall tourism event of the year repeating the award in 2019 this is uh some some heavy this is big deal shit that's why i had ordered they're not sending me stuff i had ordered this one yeah and there is some controversy i will say has received backlash from uganda's religious right over its affiliation with the lgbt community and its attraction of tourists that's the controversy yeah that stinks get out of here you get out you suck i'm trying to get to their band camp.

I ordered this tape. It's, I guess, how would you say this? Would you say La Roque? Yeah, La Roque. Maybe it's, do they speak French in Uganda? I do not know. I do not know, but this tape is called Laie Laie. No, I think I was way off.

It's got a sick... Look at this on the dead center on the cassette shell. Look at where the window is. There's a little imprint there. Oh, I've never seen that. That's pretty tiny. A little stamp. And I love the back. It's smooth as a little... It's smooth as a baby's butt.

But I actually already heard this one, so I know it's good. It's no mystery to me. What do you find here? What do you find out? What do you find out over there? Well, I was just trying to look up the languages of Uganda, and it does not seem like there's too many European languages. There are 43 languages.

Let's hear them all. What do you got? The Banto-speaking regions of Uganda dialect continue are very common. For example, the Mambara speak Runyankore, and the people from fort portal in toru kingdom speak ruturu laroque's debut solo album lai lai is a psychedelic mystery tour into the democratic republic of congo's furthest experimental fringes all right very excited about this so i'm very happy to be playing this one so look how smart i was to open that up. Look at you go.

Do you keep these? I don't really mail that many tapes anymore. I keep about two or three of them on hand, but I'm stocked up right now, so that can go in the recycle. I can open it up for you. I'll open this one. Two at once? Multitasking. But I don't have my pocket knife on me.

I have a laser you can use. I'm not at the age where I carry a pocket knife yet. This one is from Benjamin Parrish, who I know. It's from Benjamin Parrish, and then it says Sahil Sounds. So I don't know why I'm getting it from Benjamin Parrish, who used to run a label called Dog Days Tapes. I know nothing about that, but Sahil Sounds. What's going on here? We love you guys. Excellent label, but I know nothing about that, but Sahil Sounds. What's going on here?

Maybe he... Love you guys. Maybe... Excellent label, but I'm thinking maybe Ben, like maybe he's like a venture capitalist and he acquired it.

Oh, okay. This is interesting. This is a tape. It's black and white artwork. It appears to have the Sahil Sounds logo. Jamie, stop that. Am I doing that? My bad. i'm typing too fast come on jamie um it's got the sahil sounds logo like someone riding a camel over and over and over again the paper appears to be is it like perforated or something what is this

side a sure i'm not sure it appears to be some sort of comp a compilation if you will okay happy new year's from saw hill sounds it looks like um i just um typed in discog discogs parish saw hill sounds and ben parish is a producer on that one tape uh with the three women the less philis daily god he produced he produced it what's that mean i don't know but that tape is... Between mastering and producing, I feel like a lot of people are just making stuff up. Everybody needs a little piece of the pie, though.

A little piece of the pie, yeah. Yeah, why not? It's all in the contracts. It's all in the fine print. So what is this Happy New Year's tape I have here? What is it? Here, look at the track listing. While I search

their band campaign. Okay. I'm not familiar with a single one of these artists, even from my limited knowledge of the Saw Hell Sounds catalog. No, these are all new names to me. This looks like a lot of fun. The stock seems to be a little bit similar

to the other cassette. Yeah, but this one, here's why I like this. Let me tell you. It looks like they just got the logo over and over and over again, and they just printed it out a bunch. And the typewriter found on the back, it works. The weird fold

lines. Like, look, they folded it extra. There's an extra spine fold here. And something about it is charming i think i agree with you on that thank you thank you more and more people are agreeing with me you seen old nana is the first artist on here i suppose maybe we'll play that track i'm telling you man this stuff will poison your mind no this is all good and what is in that last oh the last track is from drongo tapes yes um definitely familiar with the label haven't don't personally own a lot of their stuff but this is a nice like pink lemonade clear shell you see that that's beautiful oh shit this is tight

and not what i expected from drongo is like strikes me as the kind of label where they they like they're pulling like materials out of like a trash bin uh-huh you know what i mean but this is like yeah like you said classy it's pink lemonade with like a lime green chaser on the shell it looks like something you'd see in back to the future too or something it looks like something that michael j fox would be listening to in back to the future and i agree back to the future did the tape did the delorean have a tape deck uh most definitely definitely oh i don't know what do you think that i think i think i'm gonna ask you a question like that you should at least look it up delorean to your deck drongo

tape sent a package i think in like 2021 maybe with a comp. Another label with a lot of shit. I had no clue what it was. I don't know. It's hard to Google this for some reason. Maybe somebody could find the answer to that. Tweet at me. Tweet at Mike. What's the question?

I already forgot. Is there a cassette deck in a DeLorean? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tweet at me. This tape, though, is what is it? Vitalis Computer. Towers of Glass.

An edition of 70. It's got like a bust on the front cover, but I don't think it's vaporwave. Okay. Yeah, because the bust is, the aesthetic's different. The room it's in isn't taking me to a fantastical kind of land. Yeah, I'm not really being transported anywhere. This is more like an ant's house. I don't see an orb, though.

There is a sphere on the far right. There is. That's not an orb, though. It's not an orb. But you just gave me an idea for a funny tweet, Jamie. Like, you know when you have to find... I haven't said it yet. Are you ready for it, though? tweet, Jamie. Like, you know when you have to, like, find... It sounds very nice. I haven't said it yet.

Are you ready for it, though? Yeah, yeah. Because it is pretty funny, and I will do it. Okay. Like, you know those... Yes, it sounds very nice. I'm going to say it right now. You know those pictures where it's, like, to get in, you know, you've got to find the...

click on the ones with a bicycle in it. Oh, lovely. Yes, it sounds very nice. That's not the whole thing. But you know those pictures? Yeah, yeah. So I want to do, like cap ja yeah yeah but it's like click on the one with click on the squares with the fire extinguishers exactly yeah what if you took like a cover like an orange milk cover like a keith franken thing and it was like just you busted into a grid and was like click on the square of the

orbs okay would that be funny is that the lovely. Yes, it sounds very nice. Is that the whole thing? That was good. That really does not sound right. Yeah, that was the whole thing. Okay. All right. So we play these three tapes. Do you want to grab one more?

We'll go out on one more. One more. Okay. Sure, sure. And then I think Andrew Weathers will join. Can I pick the one that's jet black? That jet black one. I've just never seen a jet black bubble mailer like that.

It looks like the jet black one, I guarantee, knowing nothing about it. I bet you it's like a gross, disgusting one. Because, like, you know how they like the black leather and the gloves? It's a little greasy. It's a little greasy. I'll tell you what. Grab three, and I'll pick one. I'll do a, it's called a process of elimination.

I'm just going to pick this row right here. The chosen row. So I'll tell you what you have here process of elimination I'm just gonna pick this row right here the chosen row so I'll tell you what you have here this one I don't oh you got three these are three good ones oh okay

you get to pick really that's a lot of that's a lot of this is a lot of well this is the kind of shit if you're gonna be on this podcast this is the kind of shit

you gotta do man you ready if you're here with three yeah sure the first one and this is the black bubble envelope tribe tapes try the tapes the second one specious arts specious from Brooklyn and the last one crash symbols West Virginia Dwight and

Liz and they and there's a little like bat Oh, it's like a gremlin or something. Like a gargoyle. So I gotta know. You're gonna make one friend and two enemies here, Jamie. How do you wanna do... What are you doing? I'm not doing it. I'm not picking,

because I want everybody to like me. All right. I wanna play all three, and you're saying we can't. I know that we played Specious recently, and I know we played Crash Symbols recently. So I think we're gonna go with the Jet Black Tape, and I'm not being Crash Symbols recently, so I think we're going to go with the Jet Black tape. And I'm not being...

He's doing it because he's a pervert, because it's the... Because of the envelope. I want to discover some new stuff, man. Jamie, how are you doing, old buddy? Jamie? Please. Jamie, stop! Alright, open it up. What's in there? Oh, I love you, dude. Jamie. Oh, there's two tapes.

Oh, come on, tapes. Two tapes. I can't read. Now you have to pick one out of here. I can't read this one. That one might be out. I can barely read this one. This says SWN-Hunter slash slash trust. Tribe tapes.

Oh, look at this. Look at the treatment here. Look at that. Oh, wow. They put the label over the entire shell. Over the spools. They've obscured the spool holes. Wow. That's bold. This is one of the...

I'm not putting this in my deck. I think this is going to be a little harsh. A little bit of harsh. Well, I told you once I saw that envelope. Yeah. And what, do you think I was wrong? What, do you think a well-adjusted person with relationships went to the envelope store and was all sweaty like, give me the blackest, like, sickest fucking envelope you got. Give me an envelope covered in greases and oils.

Tribe Tapes is an independent cassette label specializing in limited runs of noise, experimental, and electronic music operated by Max Eastman, too. He's a pervert. He's got, there's a lot of releases on Tribe Tapes. A lot of releases. I record as much as I can. Dog as Master. I. He's a pervert. There's a lot of releases on Tribe Tapes. A lot of releases. Dog Has Master. I think that's Hal McGee. They've been doing... Yeah. A lot of Ken Klinger. I don't know

Ken Klinger. It's a mouthful. Ken Klinger. So this is Hunter Biden, you said? SW1N slash Hunter Biden. Who's that? Look that up. Okay, so I did actually get the name of the artist. Well, the label... SW1N Hunter Biden. Who's that? Look that up. Okay, so I did actually get the name of the artist. Well, the label,

the artist is SW1N Hunter. It's probably Swin Hunter. Long life learning project of Adam Denton. Drawing on notation of notions of frequency sculpture, prepared frequency sculpture. I like frequency sculpture. Prepared electric guitar slash instrumental mutations,

field recording, human machine utterance, tape manipulation, feedback systems. This sounds right up my alley. It's tickling my pickle. How do you, I see this a lot. How do you prepare a guitar? Well, prepared guitar, like what do you do? You put like a fork or a spoon in the strings. Okay. this a lot how do you prepare a guitar well prepared guitar like what do you do you put

like a fork or a spoon in the strings okay and um you get like a like a saw or a butter knife and jamie how are you doing old buddy okay you know our friend zach darryl he's prepared synthesizer and it's like what what are they doing preparing mastering producing what yes you just basically take your flatware and you incorporate that with the guitar okay i like how the label on the b side or maybe it's the a side i can't fucking tell they cover the whole thing with a sticker it's just so black and it says tribe tapes and it's got like the little nubs from the roku case like punched through with like now that label that sticker shit's just inside the tape now

i have i have a tape from a rainbow bridge angels old label yeah where um it's like a it's like a u-card so it like extends and the the the whole the uh points or whatever punch through the the u-card but i've never seen a punch through the label on the cassette like that that's interesting i don't know. I might have a tool that can remove it. I'll look into it. You can get your Dremel tool and do a little fine. I do have a cassette.

I have a Norago Dremel. I will use that. And what's the tape we're not playing? I couldn't read it. There's a curse of writing. Let me tell you. Wow. Are the numbers screwed up?

You better be using a Times New Roman font. Who the hell is that? Or else I can't read it. Yeah. Are the numbers screwed up? You better be using like a Times New Roman font. Who the hell is that? Or else I can't read it. Yeah. I mean, I can read like, I can read interesting fonts that the teenagers use. I can do it. I learned cursive in third grade, but I can't remember how to write it. And like, you know, there are young people who have, they go to the special font sites

and they use the, and I can, I can read them. Listen, if you think I asked my kids, tell me what this says so daddy can read it. That doesn't happen. That's not, I can read them. Listen, if you think I asked my kids, tell me what this says so daddy can read it. That doesn't happen. That's not, I can read. I'm still, I'm a young Tate man and I can still read this shit. And harsh noise doesn't scare me and it's fine. We'll play that.

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Music Music Lohange, abeti saba kanja mibulu Lohange, mikola suwa mwasi na ye Lohange, abeti saba kanja mibulu Lohange, mikola suwa mwasi na ye Thank you. Tola Tola Uka, Tola Tola Uka, Tola Tola Uka, Tola Tola Uka, Bicoto Tola Latte Tola Tola Uka, Tola Tola Uka, Tola Tola Uka, Bicoto Tola Latte Thank you. When the Eternal created animation, he gave his son to be the animator of the people. Thank you. Let the music get you, let your body down Everybody say, see, you're the number one. Yes. You let the music get to you. The number one Shall I hold you like a bird or let you fly? Shall I hold you like a bird or let you fly? It's okay, keep on turning the music It's okay, keep on feeling the music

You can feel it, baby It's a cool dance Everybody's dancing. You're the only one. You know it's the music of mine. Tumbler 2 is number one. You know it's the music of mine. Tumbler 2 is number one.

People dancing over there. Thank you. People will listen. I want you to sing. Kutanyi Samula. Kutanyi Samula. Kutanyi Samula. Kutanyi Samula. You know it's a musical night. Tambor II is number one. People dancing all day.

The gut is kind of cool in the rain. Shall I hold you like a bird or let you fly? Shall I hold you like a bird or let you fly? i order like a bird or let you fly Testing, testing, testing. I'm going to grab the old one. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to go to the next one. Thank you. so so Thank you. so Thank you. so Thank you. so so hmm Thank you. james you slept here last night right yeah i may i may as well have i got i woke up he was on the front porch you're in uh well it's early for you and where we are in what littlefield texas littlefield texas yeah it's like 10 a.m right now what? Littlefield, Texas? Littlefield, Texas? Littlefield, Texas. Yeah. It's like 10 a.m. right now. I hear Littlefield, and this might not be true.

I hear it's exactly what you're looking for. How did you know that? You did your research. Did you not know that was Littlefield's slogan? I did know that. It's on our dumpsters. Right in the trash cans. Good for you.

Yeah, they changed it recently. It used to be a shining star on the horizon. They're trying to do the thing of like, we're near Lubbock. You can work in Lubbock and live in Littlefield, which it's too far to really do that. I mean, I'm on your website here. I'm under community. I see the Littlefield Bluegrass Association. I assume you're, Are you associated with that? No, no.

I gotta say, there's a lot of exciting stuff about Littlefield that I did not know. I was under the impression it was some bullshit town, some dumb fuck podunk town with a bunch of fucking dumb asses sitting in their dumpsters writing slogans on them, which I got some kind of right about. Yeah, not far off.

But I see that someone was running the bluegrass association and then they died in 2013 yeah but in early 2017 jim harris called a special interest meeting and he started the lba or the little Bluegrass Association. But you say you're not involved with that? No, no. They don't do too much. There's like one concert they do a year. And it's nice. It's pleasant.

It's a good time. Who is in Littlefield? Because I know there's the Andrew Weathers Ensemble. You've got a whole ensemble. You're always doing collaborations. Yeah. You're always doing collaborations yeah you're tons of you're always collaborating with people and i know a lot of that you can just get on you can do it online but like are you bad online collaboration i'm not good at that why would you got slow wi-fi

i know i have really good internet here it rules uh but no i just it's like i just kind of forget about stuff if there's not an in-person thing uh but a lot of the it's like nobody's in little field that i play music with it's kind of like we're we're drawing from the region because there's not a lot out here so like anything within like a two-hour radius is kind of fair game and feels like local you know so you're going are you got you're going to are you going to the ensemble are you making them all come to you uh it it kind of goes either like both ways like i was mostly doing that when i was in oakland um and so it was a little easier and so those those records all happen when i would like set up recording sessions for like four or five people in oak or Chapel Hill or whatever.

That was just experimental stuff. Oakland, Texas? Oh, California. Are you near San Antonio now? No, not at all. I'm like an hour from New Mexico. Okay. Well, I'll tell you one thing, Jamie.

You might be interested in this. If you pull up Littlefield's Wikipedia page. Andrew, you ever check out Littlefield's Wikipediaikipedia page oh yeah the challenger debris well i just want to ask you i mean i'm looking at the contents you know what number one is history all right number two geography and climate all right economy tourism and then number five unsolved murder case oh yeah yeah what is going on with the unsolved you don't have anything to do with the unsolved murder case oh yeah yeah what is going on with the unsolved you don't have anything to do with the unsolved murder case do you that was not me because that i mean because i will take the opportunity to switch over to a true crime podcast are you sure and stop

i can be done with this so you say most people are outside Littlefield. What brought you to Littlefield? It's cheap. It's really cheap to live here. And we just bought a building. We're living in Oakland, where it is not cheap at all. Oakland, Texas? California.

California, all right. And yeah, it's just really cheap. We bought a building and we worked on it. And we don't pay rent or a mortgage. And it's nice, actually. You know, I realize I was way off on my Texas geography. I thought you were at the bottom. And you're, like, oh, the tippy top.

Are you near Amarillo? Yeah, we're,'re like two hours from beautiful town you ever get like beto aurora come out and just stand on a table man they don't fucking i go off andrew let's go no go off andrew this is the place to do it turn your computer so i can see him a little bit i felt more comfortable i could see him a tiny little bit well you told me the wikipedia stuff i gotta i'm pivoting a lot of pivoting so andrew how long have you been running full spectrum uh it's like next year it's gonna be 15 years really wow yeah no 15 let me look that up that That's right. 15 years.

Jesus Christ. And now I'm a little confused. I was always assuming you were a Teja, born and raised. No. No, I grew up in North Carolina. Okay. Is that where you started the label? Yeah. I was in college in Greensboro and started a label there.

Yeah. Before moving here, my only connection to texas was like visiting family and san marcos okay and let's i got you know what i got on the floor over here i got a package from you we're gonna do a little unboxing should we do a little unboxing unboxing i hope it's not smashed up and then you mock me i can you know what i'll step on the way over there jamie would you mind grabbing it? I got... Jamie's kind of my goon now. I'll tell you where it is.

It's right there. Stand straight up. No, over to the right. Oh, he's so dumb. He's not good at this. Right there. You got it. Oh, there it is.

He's got it. Wow. Oh, yeah. There it is. So I'm assuming this is going to be new tapes on your label, on Full Spectrum, or is this going to be Andrew Weathers' solo stuff? You already said, yeah, but I'm going to list a few other options. Is it going to be stuff by you on another label?

What is it going to be? I think it's Full Spectrum stuff. We got two tapes here. What do we have? We got the C.C. Sorensen tape, and we got Aaron Oppenheim, two on one. Let me see these. Oh, yeah, two albums, one tape. Okay, I couldn't tell if that was a splitter.

That's two albums on one tape. Hold on, hold on, hold on. How did you do that? It's the deal of the century. Oh, and there's another one in here, too. Jamie, wait, wait, wait. Oh, there's another one? Yeah.

There was one high. Andrew, this one might not be yours. It was hiding at the bottom. Oh, and look, Andrew, we got debris got debris we got some debris you fucking dummy some of these labels some of these labels will tell you they're putting two albums on one tape and then they'll give you the worst naroko case ever made you can almost tell that he broke this before he put it in the package make it affordable you you buy the shitty narokos all right all right this is the naroko tape with like the etching on it too it's a shame that one's how you make it affordable. You buy the shitty Norelcos. Alright, alright. This is the Norelco tape with, like, the etching on it, too. It's a shame that one's the one

that broke. Wait, what's going on with it? The Amaya Weeks tape's got a little etching on the, uh, right on the cover. Oh, like a laser engraving. Yeah. Oh, look at the fine ticking around the plastic. Oh, yeah, it's broke as shit, too. That, oh, you know what?

This isn't that bad bad because the laser engraving is intact. It's mint on card. Good. I would say it almost just looks kind of like someone sneezed on it. You could always get a replacement for one of these too. Trust me. Just look on the wall. So let's go through these one by

one. I'm assuming these are the three latest on full spectrum? There's one that came out yesterday. It's not in there. Came out yesterday? Okay, and I assume you got up early so you gotta get to the post office before they

close? Yeah, yeah. Okay, get that over to us. Okay, good. So this Maya Weeks Tethers. Well, Tethers, that's a project with you, right? Well, so yes and no. Tethers is me and Brendan Landis. But Maya called her album Tethers.

Like a prank. It's a prank. Oh, my goodness. That is a very good one. And so kind of to get Maya back, you were like, well, I'm going to sneeze on the Noroco case and break it. Oh, hell yeah. In all honesty, what is this laser etching here? Is this like a duplication.ca thing? Yeah, duplication does those. I don't know what the pattern is that gretchen did um it's probably something from a picture of the beach that mile took it's the same thing imprinted on the shell yeah

it does look nice it looks very nice very very very many panels here oh there's there's a lot of text in there there's a lot and should we read it all now read all of the poetry that has been the bonus notes yeah our patreon subscribers will get all we'll read it jamie will read it to him after the credits kind of like a marvel thing yeah it's not jazz and then we have the aaron oppenheim this is now you're saying this is the deal of the century the deal is century it says specially priced two great albums on one cassette exactly so these are already albums that were released no we released them as add the one cassette i don't get it sure no i don't get it. Are you sure? I don't get it. Hold on. Three, you know. I can't claim to get it. I'm a stupid son of a bitch. It was Aaron's idea.

Is this all just a batch full of pranks? Yeah. The first one, it's broken. You sneezed on it. You sneezed on it during COVID. I mean, I know in Texas, you guys do it kind of different. It's all the pandemic has already ended there. Oh, I know what it is. Everything's bigger in Texas. Two on one. Everything is bigger in Texas you guys do it kind of different. It's all the pandemic has already ended there. Oh, I know what it is.

Everything's bigger in Texas. Two on one. Everything is bigger in Texas. So this one is two on one. Well, is Aaron Oppenheim from Texas? No, he's in California. Okay. California is a big state too.

That is a big state. That's a big state. Okay. Fifth largest economy in the world. Andrew, what's Littlefield's biggest export it's so this person you he figured California Texas big states two states two states two one. I don't get it, but what am I going to hear when I listen to it? Synthesizers. Oh, now you're talking my language.

This is an awesome design. I really do enjoy, with full spectrum, it seems like you'll put out a few tapes that just look like it'll be photographs of some sort of like dusty field yeah you know and then you'll put out something and it's got all these like rainbows and gradients on them I love how you

you just do it all it's a full spectrum oh wow there you go it's a full it's a full spectrum oh wow it's a yeah there you go it is a full spectrum you ever think about um um what would you do if someone started a label and that they kind of weird out all of your tapes and they called it full f-o-o-l spectral i i would love that jamie's been thinking about it you should do it i don't have the time to do any of this but i

would love to yeah a lot of parodies of a lot of different music i think it would be good what would be the first one we should tackle or jamie should tackle i have too much time but jamie's going to do it okay you should do and do Andrew Weather's ensemble. Oh, yeah. You should weird out that shit. Okay, there's too many. I've got to get too many musicians involved in that. Yeah, that's a lot of cordiality. You're already asking us.

We're already interviewing you. I mean, we've only got so much going on here. And then we have the last tape in this batch. What am I looking at? Oh, this is the... Frog Jazz. It's frog. There is a frog on the cover. Yeah.

It's frog jazz. Yeah. It's frog jazz. Huh? It's not jazz. So what is frog jazz? Is frog? It's,

it's like lizards making jazz or what is it? Yeah. It's lizards and frogs, frogs making jazz music. It's a little piano. Be honest with me because it's green. So frogs and jazz music. It's a little piano. Be honest with me, because it's green, so I'm thinking you're not joking and you're being serious.

Because it is green. A little of both. Who is this? DC is from Lubbock, and we got to know them when they were living here. Now they're down in San Antonio. They were involved

in the Shadow Trash Tape group. Oh, the label. Yeah, the label. What do you mean involved? They ran that label? They ran it when it started back in the day. And then they did a bunch of solo releases on there, like Mercury

Sperenson was them. Six Rod Shaman, I think, was them also. Jamie, this one's broken too. Whoa! That one's broken too, in the same place? Yeah, he broke this one too. Should we break... Two of these are broken, Andrew.

What's the policy? I think we should call duplication.ca and tell them these cases are no good. Oh, I can't. The clear ones hold up, but the white ones are a little brittle. This clear one is fucking made out of steel. Yeah.

Try to break that. So this is Frog Jazz, and the tape's green, and the Noroco case is good. And then you said you put out another one yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. That one is Claire Archibald and Kinbrae. It's called Burl of Unmath. Go ahead.

No, you go ahead. No, you go ahead. Is it on Bandcamp? It's on Bandcamp. Pull it up, Jamie. Pull up some information. That's it? I did not think it is meant to sound like that.

I had to put a little filler before. Jamie, stop. I got a lot of stuff going on here. Yeah, Jamie's got so much Matrix on here. What is going on over there? That's his research. This is too much research. Dave never did this kind of research.

This is awful. What are you doing? I'm pulling up the full Spectrum Bandcamp. This looks like this and sandra buller from the net your computer right now yeah well what is this new one what is this one and why didn't we get it uh because you're not patient enough it's true it's true i like to have them at a time mike's very entitled i know's okay. I'll get it to you. It's like it's a Scottish group of musicians, and it's all like sound and poetry and various texts

like about this land art piece in Fife, Scotland. It's what? A collaboration of two people? Yeah, a collaboration. And Claire is mostly a poet. She wrote all the text and there's like various stories from folks around there and that sort of thing. Psychogeography, you might call it. Psychogeography? Yeah.

What is... Okay. Okay, stop right there. No way that's real. No way that's real. Psychogeography? Yeah. What is... Okay. Okay, stop right there. No way that's real. No way that's real. Psychogeography? That's real. It's real as hell, dude. Full Spectrum and The Dark Outsider, please present Burl of Unmap, the first collaborative album from Kinbrae, the project of twin brothers. Oh, wait, it's twin brothers?

It's twin brothers. That's... Are they identical twins, Mike and Andy? I think so. I've, that's twin brothers. It's twin brothers. That's, are they identical twins? Mike and Andy? I've never met them in person. Huh? That must be weird for Claire. That must be weird when they're trying to decide something.

And Claire says one thing and then the twins in unison say the opposite. Yeah. That's nepotism. Yeah. This is nepotism in the experimental music scene. No one's disagreeing. No one's disagreeing. No one's disagreeing. I'm going to see if I can play this in the background.

Oh, wait. Can I? There we are. This is not the garden of cosmic speculation. I feel very comfortable right now. This is a nodal point. Jamie, give me some reverb. In an energy landscape of extraction, erasure, and renewal. Like a warm bath.

This. So you said you'll send this to me? I'll get this? Jamie, you're fucking up my microphone. It's all fucked up. Sit down. You can't do this. I can't see all the little effect sounds.

We're running Behringer here. Oh yeah, Tabs Out Concept Podcast brought to you by Behringer. Behringer, it's exactly what you're looking for. You said no one was really in littlefield texas well i mean it's a town of 6300 people it's that it was 6237 according to the 2010 census i think but then didn't you do a series of tapes called edition littlefield? Yeah, we did. And we'll probably do more. That was like when we bought.

So we bought the building in 2015, but didn't move out till 2017. And so when we bought the thing, me and Gretchen were just thinking about Littlefield a lot and like what that kind of project meant. And so we started the series, I guess kind of to make sense of it for ourselves and like started thinking about music and place and that sort of thing. And then it kind of, yeah,

the whole series was just about like music that involves place in some way not necessarily littlefield or anything like that so it wasn't every artist featured wasn't a littlefield role it wasn't one of the storied 6237 according to the 2010 census it's a long time ago which time many many years have passed who knows what it is now. It wasn't. It's not necessarily. No, it's not necessarily Littlefield people. Have you ever tried to convince someone to move to Littlefield? Yes, all the time. All the time?

And no one's taken the bait, huh? There's some potential. We'll see. You know what the problem probably is? Nobody wants to milk the cow. Nobody wants to milk that chicken. You got to milk the dog. Nobody wants to do all that. You got to get up and milk the dog. Nobody wants to do all that.

You got to get up at 10 o'clock. You end up with too much milk out here. You bring too many artists there, you get gentrification, too. Fields of milk. Then you're going to have a ramen cafe down the street, all that stuff. It would be terrible. Where do you go out to eat in Littlefield? Pizza Hut.

Nice. They still got the buffets at the Pizza Hut? I don't even know. That was like the 90s. They used to, but they did it wherever they went. I think if COVID taught us anything, it's bring back the Pizza Hut buffet. Yeah, it's true. You have a CeCe's out there? In Lubbock, there's a CeCe's.

They got the buffet. They got the buffet. Yeah, they do. They got JP's Deli over there in. Yeah, they do. They got J.C. Selly over there in Lubbock. It's the big time. You ever play a show

at CC's? No. I went to CC's enough on tour. I don't think I want to play a show there either. Why do you love a bit of cheese?

Oh, man. So, Andrew, what do you have coming out personally maybe it's not on uh your label full spectrum maybe you convince somebody else to put it out no tapes i'm doing all these this year sorry bye bye cut them off cut them off it looks like your wi-fi is cutting out andrew oh i love you too um i didn't mean to hit that one over man it's all about cds i've been hearing that a bunch yeah is that true i i mean who the fuck knows here's my question if tapes are over then why do people keep sending so many here and also i've been wondering and i'm

going to talk to joy about this i think maybe i can get someone at the post office to screen all of these tapes before they even get here and just have them come just unload some like raw tapes be like yeah this is what was the decent you want the federal government involved in this i kind of want you like bigger government i like big government i like big government i feel like there needs to be a mandate on these tapes. I do. I do. You're only putting out CDs now. Is that because...

Are you done with tapes? Is Full Spectrum done with tapes? Is this the last of them? Is this why you're breaking them? What's going on? Keep in mind before you say anything that I have tied my entire personality to tapes. Keep that in mind before you say anything that i have tied my entire personality to tapes so keep that in mind before you knock them too hard i know i would i would never say anything

uh no it just worked out all my music's gotten really fucking long where it's like i can't do anything other under like 30 minutes at this point and so cds started to make sense and people were offering. They got the C-120. They make a long tape. I mean, I sent you my album, Catalogs. It's like a C-118 or something. Sometimes they start slowing down a little bit if your motor's not good. That's true. I've been having problems.

You know what? And this isn't a joke. This is serious because I need you to look at my tape deck. The clear shells haven't been playing. Oh okay i know how to fix you okay good you guys are optimizer yeah thank god the clear shells do i don't know something with the the light refraction uh messes with the uh andrew it's something with the light reflection yeah it's refracting and it's reflecting and it is happening like all over the tapes um but i'm assuming i i'm i'm hoping your your precious cds don't have this issue um good luck with them you just got to look out for disc rot that's a disc rot is a big problem

so yeah is that real that is real that is real and what will happen it'll rot yeah it basically you look at the back of the cd it becomes cloudy and then it starts getting spotty uh but if you keep your if you keep your discs in a in a temperature regulated uh humidity regulated space you you'll have no problem you get like a cigar humidifier is that what it's called humidor yeah i've been putting my fucking cigars in my no wonder they taste like no wonder they taste like basement. Yeah. Well, okay. Well, what do you got planned for full spectrum? Well, you know what?

You can say one CD you're putting out on Who It's With. Go ahead. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's generous. What do I do? The fucking Come on, man. What do you got? I'm doing a CD on Only Time. It's called Sciatic Assemblage.

And it's like annoying, basically. Sounds nice. assemblage and it's like why not annoying basically sounds nice all right well andrew thanks for hanging out we're going to play these three tapes um we'll do them in alphabetical order by last name or first name tape title tape title okay title that's an interesting way to do it. Or you could do catalog number. No, tape title. Alphabetical order by catalog number?

Oh, the Aaron Oppenheimer tape has two catalog numbers? It has two catalog numbers. It has two Bandcamp pages. You have just gave Jamie a Discogs project that is going to keep him up for days. No, no, no, no. You can add multiple catalogs. It needs a new catalog number. Oh, he's pointing at me now.

No, no, sir. No, no. I actually do know the answer to this. I do, I do. I've been training for this for a long time. Good job. All right, Andrew, we'll play these tapes and we'll come up with your order. We'll figure it out. When you get a chance, try not to break the Noroco case when you send the next

tape. I'd appreciate it. You can go ahead and you can replace some of these, too. But, yeah, thanks for talking to us for a tiny little bit, man. We appreciate it. Thanks, Andrew. You're good. Bye-bye. Take care.

CDs. But I already called it the tabs off cassette podcast based on that pile i think we won't have any problems all right all right but it's cool it's all right so let's go into these here's what we're gonna do we'll do the frog jazz one first the cc sorenson okay twin mirror then we'll go into what is it the maya weeks um prank tape and with they're all kind of like pranks and then we'll do we'll end with aaron oppenheimer we'll have to we're oppenheim yep labor leisure is one of the tapes labor one is labor and one is leisure. Okay. Okay. It's like a trinity, but with two.

It's very, yeah, thematic here. The labor tape, the tracks are work, struggle, toil, and drudgery. And then the leisure tape, do you want to guess what the tracks are? Carelessness, happiness, frolicking, and babbling brooks. There's eight more. Can't do any more. You didn't get one. All right.

Let's play these three on full spectrum. Let's do it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know. Thank you. I don't know. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. THE END Thank you. so Thank you. so so so so Thank you.