Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #181 | 7.31.22

Episode Date: July 31, 2022

Maxwell Allison from Hausu Mountain stops by to celebrate 10 years of running the label. Plus tapes! SMOLYYAAN DRIPP, Daedelus, Snake Eggs, E+RO=3, Ted Reichman, Cole Pulice & Nat Harvie, Radiator Greys, Piper Greys, Black Hat, and Wobbly

🎵 Tabs Out, episode 181. 81, Tabs Out Cassette Podcast. Hello. Cast of the pod. Neither of you did it right. You know what's messed up about that? Well, I'm Joe. I'm Jamie.

This is backwards. I'm Jamie. This is backwards. I'm Mike. And you've got to say Tabs Out. Turn this off. Tabs Out Cassette Podcast. I said that. No, it's got to be the same every time or it doesn't work. All right.

Start over, Jamie. Start over. Play the intro music again. Not the whole intro. Just that long you were just playing. Okay. We'll cut it in post. Yeah.

Do it now. Go. And three. Three. Tabs Out Cassette Podcast. Episode 181 181 mike said i was gonna say it but okay 100 or 1 1 8 181 right i'm mike what i'm joe jamie well i um i was listening to some podcast the other day and they're like yeah episode we're on episode 382 and they've been doing it for 10 years. And I was thinking, like,

I was doing it for 10 years. You know what I'm talking about. We've had this conversation before. Why are there a lot of episodes? Because, well, a lot of them I record, it's just me alone, and I don't release them out of fear that people won't like them. That's scary.

That's for the Patreon. That's for the Patreon. You need to see what I'm saying. Don't bully me. Joe B., there was a little mix-up last time. I know. Honestly, I'm so sorry. I don't know how I goofed.

I mean, it's not because we talked about it. But then you text me at like 8.15 and said, are you coming? And I'm like in my jammies. And I was like, oh, my God. You don't apologize. I totally messed up. I biffed. And I'm like in my jammies and I was like oh my god. You don't apologize. I totally messed up. I biffed. And I'm not a biff man. No you don't normally fail. I don't usually biff.

I like people who do biffs. Yeah I'll say don't apologize to me. You apologize to the listeners. You apologize to the listeners. No don't never apologize to Jamie. Jamie come all the way here on a Sunday. We still got another episode in the can.

I know. Right in the toilet, I put it. Yeah. That's fine. We got plenty. Well, I'm here now. You're here now. We got plenty of cassette tapes.

There's plenty of stuff. I got too many, if you tell me what. We got, and it's a special time, because later on, we're going to, Max Allison from Hasu Mountain is going to join us. What's he got, two first names? Max Allison. I know, I know, I know. I'd already considered that.

Or is he Al's son? I think that's what it is. I think the last name is A-L apostrophe S, and then next word, capital S-O-N. Yeah. Well, you don't capitalize S because it's not a proper... Maxwell is Al'sN. Yeah. Well, you don't capitalize S because it's not a proper book. Maxwell. His son.

Maxwell. It is funny. It is funny how people get their names, isn't it? Names are funny. It is funny how people get their names. Do you know what

my last name means? B. It's just the letter B, right? B. It's a bug. It's a bug. They make honey. I learned a lot.

Well, Joe, since you're finally here, since you finally made it, and you got a little bit of, you know, what I'm trying to make here to our listeners. Oh, yeah. Say you're sorry. The fans. Say you're sorry to the fans. I'm sorry, fans.

I let you down. Give them all one sweet kiss. And now pick a cassette tape. Oh, okay. Joe's got his fat stack. He does. Yeah, man, you brought a lot. It's an old does yeah man you brought a lot it's an old school stack you brought a lot i don't play them all you know let's see i'm gonna play this

somalian drip tape it's not somalian but smolian what are you saying to me what are these words like a somalia well just sm so you're skipping the O. It's not Somalian. Smolian? Two Y's, too. And two A's. Smolian? And two P's in the drip. Grip?

Oh, that's when I get dressed. I got two P's in my drip. Let me see this. What is it? I'm getting no information from your words. Tape is called Dirty dirty is low but not dirty like d-i-d-e dirty the fuck is this man i need a degree i'm a i'm not a doctor i can't figure this out baltimore person okay maryland maryland's good city too yeah that's a classic reference if you

message me what that reference from baltimore that That's a good city, too. I'll PayPal you $10. Oh, shit. I know what that is. But you can't do it. Listener. Listener only. And don't make a fake Twitter account. Give them another sweet quick kiss. This is on Sarah Laughs. Okay, that's a Baltimore label. Good city, too.

They've released Sarah Laughs. Have they released... New Age Hillbillies label? That they released New Age Hillbillies? That sounds like New Age Hillbillies related to it, I think. Oh, really? I believe so. Look it up on Discogs. Cover up our Harris Rosenblum. Can you please hand it to me?

Layout by Miles Engel Hallbrecher. Look at me, Joe. Just look my hands out. I'll show you in a second. I like the cover because it's like a 3D sculpture of maybe someone that lives in hobbiton where uh frodo lives i think it's called hobo oh okay from lord it looks like a hobbit let me see this thing well it's dark as hell a proud foot proud feet what is that thing it's a hobbit no this thing on the

cover yeah it's a hobbit that's a hobbit yes it's a hobbit's head it's a hobbit no this thing on the cover yeah it's a hobbit that's a hobbit yes it's a hobbit's head it's a hobbit or it looks like a hobbit huh you said it looks like a hobbit it looks and you're saying what is it yeah what is it exactly it looks like a hobbit i don't know it's a sculpture of a hobbit sounds like you're coming here with absolutely no dedication jr tolkien no you don't know what you're talking about. Sarah Lest Records. This came out in 2021. No clue who runs the label, by the way.

Oh, you still haven't figured that out? There's a track on here called Swangin' if you want to play it. Oh, I might play that one. It's called Swangin'. There is a New Age Hillbilly tape on this label. They're also Human Host. Dwayo. Superflower. Yes, Selma.

Is this all Baltimore stuff that you're saying? I think so. I recognize the Baltimore accent now. Yeah. Natty Bo. Delaware Dan. Delaware Dan. Hell yeah.

All right. Well, then, so is the artist Dirty... No, they flipped it. The artist... Artist. Yeah, what was that? Artist. Why'd you say it like that? Is...

Somalian drip. Somalian drip. Somalian drip. Got it. Got it. All right, Jamie, what do you got? You gotta pronounce both P's. All right.

You gotta kind of... They gotta... You gotta hit them. They got this one out of the mailbag. Out the mailbag. Thank you so much for of the mailbag. Out the mailbag. Thank you so much for the people who send stuff

to the mailbag. Yeah, and this is a label I was not familiar with. It's a scene I'm not familiar with. It's kind of the, like,

drum and bass jungle breakbeat. It's real fast, real energetic. What's in there? What is it? This label is called Doom of Dome

or something like that. Dome of Doom. Dome of Doom. It's where I get my haircut. Yeah. It's a split. I'm going to play the A side. This artist is Daedalus.

I saw you send that in the text, and I was like, there's a Daedalus tape? This is the producer Daedalus? I don't know. I'm not familiar. Is this someone you know, Joe? I'm not familiar with the name either. Daedalus is famous. I think it's the name of a Greek god or something like that.

Yeah. Do we have the same person? I don't know. I would hate to think that Joe B. is going to listen to this thinking it's a famous person. This is a long one, Jamie. There's a lot of tape on here. I think it's

45 minutes on each side. Yeah. C-90, they call it. lot of tape on here oh yeah i think it's i think it's uh like 45 minutes on each side yeah that's i was gonna say that too c90 they call the kids call it this is nice don't where you got this in the mailbag you said yeah just listen to it today my three-year-old was was dancing the artwork looks like for like a flyer for like a 90s rave and the tape looks like it's got like full color print on there too or is that a sticker on the tape itself? Oh, on the tape. It's a sticker.

So this is your classic sticker. It's looking beautiful, though. Yeah. But I don't want this to be not the famous person, and then Joe B. hears it and is in kind of like a zone to hear a famous person make music, and then it's not a famous person. Is it Alfred Weisberg Roberts, Joe? You know what?

I'm not sure. That's what we need to figure out. He's got a lot of releases. Daedalus is like, yeah, I mean, I've never really listened to Daedalus' music before. Daedalus has like a pedal or something out or like a module? Is that this? I don't want to listen to this person.

I don't want to keep guessing. It probably is because I think I'm stupid. There's a lot of releases and been around the block. I'm just not familiar with this scene, so's a blind it's a musical blind spot well then we need it right now why like electronic music yeah this is jungly this is is there is this music made with electric yes you're telling me and what's the label who put it out dome of doom i tried to make a jungle track a couple weeks ago yeah yeah All I was able to do was just loop the jungle break. I got that.

Did you get hurt? Did you at least? No, I got it. Okay, well, I think that's a good start. But I didn't know what to do next. I would say from there, take a break, make a sandwich, maybe watch a few episodes of, like, 30 Rock or something. I just did.

Yeah. That's jungle. You know what? I was doing it wrong. This is jungle? Do it one more time. Yeah, that's jungle. You know what? I was doing it wrong. This is jungle? Yeah. Do it one more time. Yeah, that's jungle. Monkeys, birds, insects, water on the leaf.

Water. Yeah. Okay. This is what it was in my day. Oh, that's why you didn't recognize him. Yeah. I love how this... Turn the jungle down, please.

I love how the logo for this label is actually like a little dome. It makes me wonder what's going on in there. Thunderdome. How many enter, how many leave? Yeah, and this label's got a lot of releases, cassettes and vinyl. I don't know any of the artists. Probably a lot of more famous people that you don't know. Yeah, exactly.

I'm dying to know this person's name. Will Smith. Oh, wait, Jamie, you know what? Go to domeofdooms.org. domeofdooms.org slash product slash where slash the slash day slash takes slash the number two. I'll just send you the link. Hold on. I'm on their band camp right now.

Go to the website, and you can read this whole thing. What, about me? About Joe B. and what he thinks about it. Yeah, they got it. Somehow they put it all on their website. But apparently Jungle's having a resurgence. It's seemingly been doing so ever since

gaining even modest popularity outside the pirate radio waves. So I don't know if this person is famous though. They're selling this tape. It's sold out now. They were selling it for $20 and it's sold out. They're raking it in. Yeah.

What do you got, Mike? Maybe they are famous, Joe. You never heard of Daedalus? No. Okay, snake eggs. You guys want to eat some snake eggs? Snake eggs. I feel like you played that artist

on one of the ones with me and Ian where we had a theme of reptiles and then we had to like... Really? I don't know. This was another one this literally came well it came in the mail the other day i opened up the envelope this morning and i only listened to like a little bit of it but i was kind of digging it and i to be honest i just like the name snake eggs yeah alfred weisenberg roberts he is famous famous okay so

this person is famous yeah so i feel like an idiot playing Snake Eggs because this is like some nobody now I'm playing. Never will be anybody. Never will be. So we got, okay. Well, I'll try. I don't know anything about Snake Eggs. I know the label's called Stress Carrier.

And that's all that I have. The art is very simple. I feel like I know what this is going to sound like. You want to take a guess before we play it? I feel like it's going to sound like... But maybe not. You're dead wrong. You couldn't be more wrong.

How about... No, nothing like that. There might be a little bit of singing on it, Jamie. I don't know. Let's listen. That's it. That was it right there. Yeah, but I don't know anything about the artists.

Oh, you know what? I do know something about them. They're from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Oh, nice. That's what. Now it's all coming back to me. I wanted to play Snake Eggs because I thought. The Electric City.

They're from Scranton, Pennsylvania. Maybe they know. But the little cars go in the compact spot, right? That's what I was thinking. See, Jamie played a famous person so I thought maybe Snake Eggs knows Jim or maybe Snake Eggs knows Dwight. Or Pam.

Maybe Snake Eggs knows Pam. Or Roy. Daryl. What about Daryl think about what if snake eggs knows uh marge what i can't remember peg uh but but think about that what if the official like nbc peacock twitter account retweets this episode because snake eggs knows Snake Eggs knows BJ Novak's character or Snake Eggs knows Creed Creed his name is really Creed

there's a lot of cool things about him what if Snake Eggs when he holds up a picture of him in the 60s like the character but it's him oh is it really and then the one episode when they're doing karaoke and he's singing a song, he's singing his music. Okay. So I like that. Is that meta?

Meta. I have no clue. I don't know what meta is. Snake eggs. Whoa! What's that? Snake eggs? Snake eggs, yeah. What if snake eggs knows Kevin? What if Kevin, when he spills the chili, what if there's snake eggs in it? What about Oscar? Oh my god. Could you imagine if snake what if kevin when he spills the chili what about snake eggs in it what about oscar oh my god could you imagine a snake that would be good what about toby aaron aaron

stop stop oh what about what about bob vance it's refrigeration refrigeration i'm still thinking about oscar i know i'm still thinking about Oscar. I know. I'm still thinking about if Snake X knew Oscar. That would be crazy. When he threw the cat in the ceiling. Oh, that's one of my favorite cold opens. Is that a cold open? Alright, let's play these three. Okay.

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Come and die Come and die Come and die And my hacks are great, I'm above the mirror They won't let you stay where you can hear And I hope tomorrow And I hope tomorrow And I hope tomorrow You were tangerine water vapor You reflected neatly on the paper

And I hope tomorrow and I hope tomorrow in a garden tethered by a ribbon will your heart forget what you've been given And I hope tomorrow And I hope

tomorrow Sympathetic magic and a power With electric like a tarantula And I know tomorrow And I hope tomorrow You don't need to die to see the river

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Very famous person. Very famous. They are very famous. I'm looking at them right now. I say that, but now I'm just going through the tabs. I've got so many tabs on my computer. And I brought up a story when I played some jungle stuff at work, and they told me to turn it off.

Which was rightfully so. It's not good working material. No. Unless you're like on cocaine and you're like, I don't know, maybe like working at the Amazon. I would say unless you're doing something really fast. Unless you work at the cocaine factory, you don't want to listen to that at work. Yeah. No, because actually the cocaine factory might get a little extra.

You got a little wrong. It's really slow work, actually, because you've got to weigh it all out It's got to be perfect It's the break room Because you can't smuggle anything home It's very exacting work, actually Now imagine the office And everybody's naked

Oscar's showing up naked Kevin naked spilling chili Imagine Kevin naked spilling chili Pete Imagine Kevin naked spilling chili. Kelly. Pete. Pete. That's new stuff. I'll take plop.

Plop. I say that about them being naked in the office and spilling the chili because snake eggs. We play the snake eggs tape. And maybe snake eggs. I can't even say it. But maybe they know Oscar. And then Dale is famous Please retweet us

I'll write the tweet for you Holy shit Can't believe my music I played on Tabs Out Click here for the latest episode I'm so famous And then click here but don't put a link Don't put a link Don't tag us Please we don't put a link Don't tag us, nothing like that

Please, we don't need anything extra Alright, who's ready to play? I played the first one I'll play another one, alright You go I'm gonna play Snake eggs No, I'm gonna play

E plus R-O equals three What are you saying? I'm telling you man, this stuff will poison your mind Alright Dr. Fauci, I didn going to play E plus R-O equals three. What are you saying? I'm telling you, man, this stuff will poison your mind. All right, Dr. Fauci, I didn't bring my calculator. What does that even mean? Well, you know what? I've played a tape by them before, but it wasn't until today when I learned what it meant.

It's the person's name. It's like Eddie something the third. Eddie Munster? It's not Eddie. I'm getting it all wrong. I can't remember what it is, but their last name is Eddie Money. It makes sense with the R and the O, and then they're the third. With or without your blessings.

Bonding. The third, my dear boy. Bonding tapes number 45. Eddie Ross. Eddie Ross the third. The third, my dear boy. How did you have that so ready? Let me see this.

Yeah, you played like a Quality Times comp on bonding tapes maybe? I love bonding tapes. You do. They make good stuff. I bet they play good stuff over there too. Who knows? Look at all this. Wow.

Look at all these instruments. Jamie. Jamie's into instruments. Jamie's into instruments. I can't even begin. Jamie, you got me here. Guitar,'s into instruments. I can't even begin. Jamie, you got me here. Guitar, bass, drums. That's what I like.

Maybe a tambourine. Maybe a tambourine. But what are these instruments? Look at all these instruments on the cover. Can you name them all? Oh, yeah. I see some conga drums. I see a flugelhorn.

A flugelhorn. Would you just call me? I see some djembe drums. Tenor saxophone. Turntable. And some kind of flute. You don't know what kind of flute. And a synthesizer.

There's an SP-404 on there as well, Jamie. It's a sampler. It's a pretty famous sampler. It's so weird that you had such specific names for some of those. And a microphone. Some kind of flute. And a Ouija banjo. Ouija banjo. And then you just say, and a synthesizer.

A stink-a-sizer. I think it's a MIDI keyboard, too. I don't even know. I don't know. No, bonding tapes. Number, what did I say? 45. It's full of musical instruments. I was looking for that, so I couldn't find that one. You couldn't find this? It's full of musical instruments. I was looking for that, so I couldn't find that one. You couldn't find this? It's full of musical instruments.

It's on Bandcamp. It would have been very apropos if the timing were right. Do you know where this person's from? Did this tape come out this year? I don't know. I didn't do a lot of research. Do you want to mention the yellow leader tape, Joe? Do you want to mention the yellow leader tape? You? Do you want to mention the yellow leader tape?

You've got to pay extra for that. Do you want to say it has yellow leader tape? I got that from their Patreon. That's very nice. Very cool. And this is like with or without your blessings, and you're saying the name is Eric. Eddie Ross III.

Eddie Ross III. E plus R equals 3 Very cool Are all these instruments on the team? I hope so I wouldn't imagine there would be Hold on, that's some kind of flute Alright, Jamie

I'm ready Ted Reichman One of the early guys in the downtown scene in New York City. Ooh, downtown. John Zorn, the Knitting Factory. Lou Reed. Downtown. Yeah.

Got a new tape out on Triptik Tapes. This one's hard to say. Triptik Tapes? Yeah, have Joe try to say that. Let me say. It's hard to say. I got that out of the mailbag. I recognized the name. Didn't remember where the name

was from, and then I looked it up, and I was like, oh yeah. One of the early accordion players. Wow. Cool out, man. Virtuosic outsider accordion player, but this album is not accordion

music. Are there... I have a question, Jamie. Are there insider accordion players? They play by the rules, yeah. Like Weird Al. No, Weird Al's outsider. He's outsider, yeah.

It says accordion on here, Jamie. He'll mangle some of those songs. Well, it's probably put through a lot of effects. Yeah, poly effects, yeah. Can you even... What can you do to an accordion to affect it? I can do a lot of a lot of effects yeah poly effects yeah can you even what can you do to an accordion to affect i can do a lot of it yeah you can mutilate that i'd love to see somebody do something what do you call it you've been saying extended technique extended technique i would love joe that's what's so cool hanging out with him you learn all kinds

of stuff like this and one of the things i've been learning a lot about is if anybody has like an instrument that you don't know about like like like tell me when jack wright plays the saxophone on his knee that's extended technique exactly yeah or you just say like name an instrument um guitar he can't do it flugelhorn flugelhorn oh yeah flugelhorn like i like when people do like um like i like seeing like an extended technique like you You go to a small club and you see somebody do an extended technique Yeah, I get it Yeah, I get it

Some people are like, yeah, he knows what he's talking about So who does this? Yes, it sounds very nice Triptych Triptych? Is that the word you're trying to say? It's two words Triptychs That's the triptych is that the word you're trying to say it's two words trip ticks

oh that's the thing though it's not two words that's good that's a good uh i'm gonna send that in the group text and pretend like i made it up oh no no trip ticks is one word but it's like the word trip and then the word ticks like you ever see the movie ticks yeah but you know what a triptych is right like with a with a Y? It's three paintings. Yeah. Yeah. What's that? They all go together.

Okay. A diptych is? Two. Two. Yeah. You got it. What's with this J card, the inside of the printing? Like three studies for a crucifixion.

So like, they have, it's two. You know your art history there. I do know my art history a little bit. Are you just saying that because of the band? No, it's Francis Bacon. So the inside of this J card, they did double-sided printing, but then they got to where they just stopped. They stopped. That's on purpose.

Oh, well, I'm sorry. I will let the art historian judge this. So what is this? Who is this in the style of? That's in the style. There's two black panels. What school is this? Oh, that's the new school.

New York. Oh, okay. Well, I'm not going to this is you gotta work on your swing buddy yeah oh yeah i got a little off yeah oh that you're right you got the timing right yeah yeah well i was doing some extended technique jamie what if what if you just went to andy bernard he would get so mad oh i could only imagine just seeing like dwight doing extended we haven't even brought up Stanley Stanley Alright then I'm going to play a tape Yeah Strawberry Roan

Strawberry Roan Let me take you down Keep going because that's exactly what I was thinking of Strawberry Roan Yeah this is a What? Roan? R-O-A-N

Strawberry Roan Does anyone know what that is? No I don't know what a Roan? R-O-A-N. Strawberry Roan. Does anyone know what that is? No, I don't know what a Roan is. You're not a fan of the... It'd be a good Scrabble word. The equestrian variety? No, I'm not really into... I'm scared of horses.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I believe it's the fine coating of a horse. If a coat has like a... A good Roan? A good... It's like... I think the Roan is like the... Well, it's what it's like having a Roany.

Wait, isn't that like a treat? What's a Roany? That's something you eat, right? At the end of the Vanilla Ice tape, there's that bonus track. Do you remember that? No. What it's like having a Roany.

Jamie, look that up. I kind of remember that now. Google what it's like having... Ninja Day was on Ninja... He was in Ninja Turtles, right? Strawberry Roan. After saving with customized car insurance from Liberty Mutual. I kind of remember that now. Google what it's like. Ninja Day was on Ninja Turtles, right? Strawberry Road. After saving with customized car insurance from Liberty Mutual. Sorry, we had a commercial.

Remember when we had advertisers and stuff? Oh, no, stop. Play this louder. I do remember this, actually. My parents took this tape away from me. What? I have a good tape takeaway story, but I'll tell it later. All fair.

Hmm. But like a strawberry roan is like a horse that's pink. No, you keep that playing the whole time. Actually, I'm going to drop it now. It was body count. That's what they wouldn't let you have? They took it away from me. They took it away from you?

But strawberry roan is the name of the tape, not the name of the artist. I forgot for a minute. I'm sick. The name of the artist is Cole, Pulis, and... Oh, it's not Strawberry Rhone? With Hilary James and Zach Warpinski. The name of the tape is...

Strawberry Rhone. The name of the tape is strawberry run the name the tape is strawberry road it's on oral can it's ambient music this is good though I rather play this yeah we've played stuff on oral Canyon before they're like a New Age label they put They make new age music. They're still doing that, huh? Play that again. Loop that. I gotta do a control shift T. You guys know that trick? No. I'm a Mac man.

If you close your tab, control shift T brings back your tab. I'm an Apple guy, so. Probably be command shift T. It would be command T. Horses are enormous. I'm gonna try that tomorrow. Command shift T. I like to learn new,orses are enormous. I'm going to try that tomorrow. Command Shift T. I like to learn a new, what do they call it?

Keystrokes? Is that what they call that? This is good stuff. All right, you want to play these? Then we'll come back with Maxwell Allison for Hasu Mountain. Oh, yeah. All right, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. so so so

um so so Thank you. Bye. I'm going to go to the bathroom. so I'm going to go to bed. ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © transcript Emily Beynon Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. ¶¶ I don't see him. Well, I'm letting him in now. Oh. Let him in. Let him in. Let him in. Let him in. Get him in here.

Why is James crying? Where is he? Is he here? It's just me. Hey. Is that Maxwell Allison I hear? What's up, baby? What is going on?

So what's going on? This is a big moment for you because... Who could that be? Because it's a big... Somebody's having a special birthday. It's a Hasu Mountain birthday. Yeah. That's a big, somebody's having a special birthday. It's a Hasu Mountain birthday. Yeah. That's a big deal.

How many years? Let everyone guess. Jamie, you go first. 14. Joe Big. 8. Max, what do you think? I want to say it's 69 years, baby.

Oh, my God. You're correct. I can't believe you went there. No, but to be fucking... We don't really do that kind of humor anymore. Considering the fact that we no longer do this kind of humor, it's been 10 years since the Hasu Mountain label had begun. How are you celebrating?

I saw something. You guys are doing some weird-ass merch, just hats that say, like, Zone on it or something like that. I thought it was just expensive. You guys like this stuff. So one thing about the merch that I want to say is that I believe I remember hearing in some previous Tabzat thing that you were like, These guys must be raking it in. They got all this merch. Yeah.

Yeah, I stand by that. But the merch is made to order. So it's like we don't pay anything up front. It's all made by this company. And they only make them when... That's how they do it these days. I love how you... So what are you saying?

You're not selling any of this stuff? Like, what are you trying to say? That we were wrong? No, no, no. What are you trying to say? Hold on, hold on. 10 years? how many different kind of shirts do you have how many different merches do you have okay so that's definitely my point so the the merch 10 years 10 years the merch stuff is like is like very like diversified there's like dresses shirts tank tops hats so we're not we don't have like a box of these at our home they're all stuff that like people order and then it comes to them i learned

a lot you know back i just don't get it back in my day maybe 10 and a half 11 years ago tape labels used to actually sell we used to have to talk to tape labels and they'd be like i'm gonna make a c20 or i'm gonna make like i'm gonna make like a double c60 for the fuck of it and just sell them for whatever and now that's like well we have uh calculators we have a uh book covers we have uh yo-yos we have our proprietary juice blends we made some we made a fire tools grinder that that was that was a cool one i know i got it it's small as hell it's so small yeah yeah oh it's too small for you not enough weed is ground by it no man our butts are big i need like the hubcap of like a chevy yo that delaware weed is just you bro straight straight from biden's backyard hell yeah i just we just had to pull joe b out

of biden's backyard it was a party yeah he was having a fourth of july party yeah it was pretty cool so what else so that is that all you guys are kind of just a merch store now you don't do really deal with music anymore that's cool that you should do me no no no in all seriousness it is cool that you used to give a fuck about music it is cool that over the 10 years but now we're just selling grinders and visors now you're selling made to randy packs made to order yo-yo bucket hats yeah exactly no but uh okay so let's get serious okay okay all right hold on so okay i'm gonna drop some exclusive intel here whoa this is wait wait wait this is an exclusive yeah hold on jamie do you have any kind of like exclusive betting music that you can play for mac there we go well let me turn it up oh come on

jamie all right what is our give us our exclusive is it? Alright, so we're reissuing six sold-out tapes. Hold on. Jamie, we can't hear Max at all over this. I'm mixing. I'm mixing. Turn him up. Turn him up. Let the man mix. We're reissuing six sold-out tapes.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What? What? Start over. You're reissuing... Six sold-out tapes, Mike. Six sold-out tapes? Yeah.

Which ones? Which ones? Six tapes. Well, why won't you tell us which ones? I'll tell you. Just give me a second, man. So, six tapes that have not been in print for a while. We got Mothcock, two for tuesday that's one

we got m guinness gangras i am the last which is our first tape um of of his from a couple years ago oh wait so what's that because the mothcock one is like what hasu number 14 oh yeah mothcock one is like 2013 or 14, so it's pretty old. Double check, see if you got that. I mean, Bremmy is 2012 number 6. It's not Bremmy, it's 2 for Tuesday. So it's our second Mothpack. Number 18.

It's actually number 18. What, did you say 26? What did I say? I didn't say any numbers. That's Doug's forte is being like, oh yeah, that was House Mo 41. It's all up here.

Yeah. Okay, so, Cockboys, Ged, two Earth Eater tapes, Meta Lexus, and R.I.P. Chrysalis. Who's deciding this? Who are you letting decide this?

Is the merch people, they decide which ones? Is this also made to order? We let our secret cadre of gnomes that we keep in a garage. They're Patreon. 2,000 mules. Yeah. Okay, so. Follow the money.

Talk boys. And what is this stuff you're listing what is this let him speak let him let the man speak michael tapes were reissuing then we got uh rxm realities first tape devil worldwide and then the last one is uh uh what is it give me a second i have a question roped off oh yeah why aren't you okay everybody take a seat let me think why are you oh i remember it's gilbert smith uh our very first oh they're doing themselves of course oh of course it's aity Label. Vanity Label. That's why I had forgotten, because I don't think about my own work in the same context.

So, yeah. So, we have those. And there's more. And there's more. Here's a piece of info. But not exclusive? You've been saying this shit all over town? No, it's exclusive.

Oh, this is exclusive too. Alright. So, in addition to all this reissue and all this merch, we have some other new albums coming out that are

kind of like, I would say like different scales. Like in the same way that we put out those four pro-lapse tapes. I cannot tell you, it's confidential. Those four pro-lapse tapes last year. Those were great, by the way. Thank you so much. We're doing a three cassette box set of Mothcock.

Oh, interesting. And each tape is about an hour each tape is over an hour long so the whole so the whole batch or the whole like box set is like something like three and a half hours and be honest be honest don't talk over me be. How much of it is just they just fall asleep, take a nap? None of it. How much is just them big doons snoring for a nap? It's all killer, no filler. It's all new Mothcog music, too.

So it's basically their new album that is three and a half hours long. Very cool. All of the art is by pat so it has the that mothcock visual art flavor to his collages it looks beautiful we we uh should have those in hand soon we haven't announced it yet but it's gonna be honestly like it's like a big project for us this year it's gonna to be a big thing so i'm excited for that for sure that's huge um how many copies will you send me we'll send you uh maybe three three we'll send you 4.20 copies you're really good with the numbers we should have you on all the time with these numbers yeah yeah max yes what uh what hasu mountain release has scared you the most too scary

oh that's a great question thank you what is scary real scary what did you what did you kind of have to pass off to doug and just say will you finish listening to the rest of this? I'm too scared. There are some scary ones. One of the ones that I think about that's really amazingly dark and scary is that Radiator Grey's tape that we put out.

Josh Levi, his music is dark and amazingly just like, it sounds like you're in some freaky cavern and it's just like, you know, it's harsh, it sounds like you're in some freaky cavern, and it's just like, you know, it's harsh, it's freaky. Thank you. so Thank you. Thank you. what's the most non-scary one what's the best one you look at and you're like and you definitely know you're not it's like your security blanket it's the opposite of scary it's makes you feel right i would say like the dustin wong tape we put out is a very wholesome beautiful unscary like tape that is just like full of like bubbles

and like beautiful you know scenic vistas i'm actually scared of bubbles so yeah so that's kind of fucked up that you would yeah i can't believe i'm scared of bubbles the thing and the monkey yeah it's a great album title fluid world building 101 with shaman bamboo oh i didn't take that class where did you and d meet? Shut the fuck up. No. You're not allowed to do this. Why did you say it like that? So, how did you guys meet?

Where are you best friends and how did it happen? I met Doug at a keg in college. Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Max, what labels are you into, man? What tape labels do you listen to? What do you check out?

All kinds of stuff. Like what? Obviously, like Howard. Howard Stern? Yeah, Howard Stern's tape label um i love uh i love like in yegi and yegi tapes they do they do lps too i never uh uh knew how you said that how do you say it i don't i don't even know if i'm saying but i think it's in yegi and yegi andi. I think you got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got it. I love...

Let me think. Who are the weirdos still buying CDs? Wait, what is... I don't know. What is that audio from? That's from an episode of Saturday Night Live. SNL, they call it. That's so specific.

I love that. I tagged that one when i heard it uh you know it's hard for me to think of like like labels that are like tape tape i love so hell sounds tape tape tape tape issues killing i love uh uh husky pants rallies label does a bunch of tapes that I love. I love Full Spectrum and obviously Astral Spirits.

What kind of Chicago shit's going on that I don't know about? What kind of tape-specific Chicago located stuff that's going on that I know about, but Jamie and Joe don't know about it, so let them know. Tape-specific Chicago shit. Yeah, name one tape label.

That's new and hot. New and hot. It's not even hot yet. It's just warm, but it's waiting, baby. And how did you and Doug meet? I mean, okay, so your question kind of, like, like a truth to it, which is that I don't necessarily know if there's like new hot labels making tapes in Chicago.

You know, like obviously like Lil' Earn has like been grinding along probably just as long, if not longer than us. I'm trying to think of other like new new labels that make tapes and i got nothing a lot of my buds are making just like their own self-release kind of tape type situations you know like my friend jake acosta just made a tape for his group famous laughs um you know I think that like the the tape label scene is also like people understand they can just release their own stuff and not call it a label and it's just like it exists as like a physical item that you know stands alone so to speak I I think. Do you even think, like, compared to when you started the label 10 years ago, the need for even people to have a label to help them out,

do you think it's, like, diminished in a way? Do you think it's changed? Yeah, I would definitely say so. And I would say that if people are in the mindset of needing a physical edition of something then they're not they're not necessarily scared about doing it themselves wait so do you just hit one button and it plays a little stupid sound like soundboard style? I have yeah, I have I just saw you. I saw you hit F or something Can you see my board? I just I just changed the camera to you. No, I don't want him to know what F is

No, I well F is one that I hold Do six and then Do six and then nine. Six and then nine? Go to Joe. To me. No, I have just one of those things that you use to open up your car, and it has one button, and it plays a random sound, so I don't know which one I'm going to get.

So I hit it. Wait, are you talking about like an alarm beeper? They call it a fob. beeper they call it a fob a fob yeah i have a sound i thought you were talking about like a like a car window jack to open your car yeah okay all right okay what we're talking about we're talking about uh whether yeah i think that the decentralization of and the more wider availability of making your own tapes, ordering 100 tapes from NAC or whatever, people know that they can do that. They don't need someone's permission or someone's, you know, like sponsorship to do so anymore. Or they never did. Yeah, they never did.

But yeah. Yeah. So like that doesn't make any sense. So yeah, but it was nice. I guess you don't really have an answer is what you're saying. I'm just saying that. Okay. Also, I would say this goes.

Oh my God. that okay also i would say this goes oh my god this this goes hand in hand with like people feeling more like uh more capable of dropping a digital album on bandcamp that has no label associated with it like that's how i release a lot of mux music it's just on the mux bandcamp digital only because i've just been making releasing so much stuff like like i was trying to think about it recently it's like i could make a tape box set of all the digital only mux albums i've made in the last two years but it would be like nine or ten tapes so it's like is that the way you see hasu going as a label that kind of like like you talked about the prolapse tapes and then you talked about like the smothcock thing and then you bring up the idea of the mucks doing all these releases

as digital and then putting it together as a box set so i do you see that as like a way that like you'd move further to just doing like i don't want to say novelty releases or anything like that, but it would be more of a bigger scale releases. Yeah. Bigger scale, more of a special, it's a treat. You go home and there's a treat there.

There's not, I actually don't think that that's our, our Avenue because like when, when I was, when I was saying that it would take eight to ten tapes to release all this music that's basically me saying that i don't want to do it like that like i don't want that you know what i mean oh you don't want that oh it's a bad thing no yeah it's a bad thing i want someone to buy 10 tapes are you sure buying buying 10 mux tapes in a big, like what would they even look like?

It would be like a, like a, like a trapper keeper full of tapes or something like that. Like, so no. Oh, so that, that's also a bad thing.

You don't like trapper keepers. Okay. So what I want to say is that our label house, you will always continue to release music on physical additions. And, and we haven't been doing LPs lately. It's basically impossible. So we're going to do tapes and CDs for everything,

like, you know, for the, for the foreseeable future. And, and we want to give our artists like, you know, Pozo did the dub we we want to give our artists something of the like is a physical edition that they can hold in their hands that fans can hold in their hands and it's going to be a tape and a cd like that that's just the standard

for us now so so we we will not move to this idea of doing these big box set kind of things those will those will just be special gems within the landscape you know what i mean very cool awesome well max thanks for taking a moment to talk to us big ups for running the label for so long yeah cheers oh cheers. Also, before you go, weren't you, didn't you, were you like a translator for Merzbow when he was in the States one time? Yeah, I was.

Yeah. Could you get him to unblock me on Twitter? Well, Mike, you have to stop making fun of him. Well, it's funny. Okay, so. I think it'd really be worth it for him if he unblocked me. I think he'd kick out of it.

I'll tell you this tale. Red Bull reached out through my friend Jonathan, dear homie of mine, who was working with them on this event. The event was a big, big blowout, like all night long concert in this big warehouse. And like fire tools and towel sounds and a lot of our buds were playing on the bill oh no all kinds of buds and just like coincidentally jonathan hit me up and was like oh yeah i know you speak japanese to do that so so i i basically like was

going to be there anyways because our artists are performing there but mertzbau and steven amelli were the headliners and so i got there like early like on the production schedule. I like met him. And the funny part is that he speaks like great English. He like doesn't, he like doesn't need a translator like at all. Like he was just like, yes, I would like some coffee. I was like,

I was like, tight. I'll get you some coffee. Like sick, man. You had this, break it down. There's only Red Bull there.

I was like, yeah. You had this, break it down, that there's only Red Bull there. I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah,

I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for like six hours like basically one-on-one it was so tight he's he's a super quiet and nice person very like just like like chill i was like oh yeah oh no he's playing you want to go see it and he was like i love oh no he was like i had their lp in the 80s like in japan do you guys know about oh no like they're like a chicago like industrial like noise band like yeah so yeah he was like yeah let's go check it out so i like just got to hang out with him for a while i got him a bunch of coffee he drinks a ton of coffee because he was playing at like midnight and he was he must have just been jazzed

by then and like he ripped he played like an hour long set at this red bull thing and like everyone was just like dying and melting obviously like just like an hour of mertz bow like just like like like it was insane so yeah that's that's that's so bottom line is that akifasan is a very very nice man and he doesn't need a translator at all okay but the bottom of the whole point was um i think you get a big kick out of my tweets if you just unblock me oh that was oh okay your point was yeah wait does he oh yeah you guys have a twitter i forgot about that and he posts pictures of oh you wouldn't know all right max bye you wouldn't even hang up on him hang up oh hang up right now

so okay just really quick i forgot about this until right now so Hang on. Right now. Hold on. Hold on. Can't do it. So, okay. Just really quick. I forgot about this until right now. So I don't even know if I want to say this, but we'll cut it up. So I, now you won't. Back with me and Doug, probably like towards the, like towards the beginning of our labels history, like, you know, 2013, 12,

14, somewhere around there. Oh, I lost him. Oh, no. Oh, no. Did you lose him? Yeah, I clicked. Oh, fuck. He's telling the story. He's telling the fucking story that he was going to be so good.

Well, I I lost him. that he was going to be so good. Well, I... I bet... I bet that was a great one. Awesome. Awesome. Wait, he might be back. We're back. Start over.

God. I hit the wrong button. I was trying to take a screenshot and then I closed the Chrome window. Okay, so sometime a very long time ago, I hit the wrong button. I was trying to take a screenshot and then I closed the Chrome window. Jamie, please. Sometime a very long time ago, me and Doug were just goofing

around on Twitter as one does. Goodbye. We made a bunch of fake parody artist accounts. So we made Twitters for, you know,

I didn't want to say a lot of them, but we made one that was like, I think it was at Masami Akita. Well, say a few of them. Give me a few of them. Give me like, how many,

how many was it in total about? Like probably like four, four. So give me three. No, no many was it in total about like probably like four four so give me three no no i won't he's giving us this one yeah so you're such a cuck so we made the at masami akita account and like we're like we didn't post anything on it i think i think people thought it was really the official Mertzfell account. And then you sold it to him for a million dollars? Breaking it in another way. He's breaking it in.

The merch, the dresses, the fanny packs, the yo-yos, the Hossu Mountain Jeeps, the fake Mertzfell Twitter accounts. It's all a Ponzi scheme. You know what the Hossu Mountain is? The Hossu Mountain, look at the top where Max and Doug is. All the way at the top. Follow the money.

Let me finish my tale here, please. So, okay, so we made this account. People started to notice it. It probably got like a thousand followers really fast. And we didn't tweet anything from it. It was just like the at masami akita account and like i think we like retweeted welcome we were treated one tweet from like a franz kafka like bot or something and that was the only tweet on there so it was just like a blank account

people thought that was him followed him and then like it got suspended because it's like you know you don't want to impersonate people or but we weren't even doing that we weren't like posting like funny tweets at like as his persona or whatever like it was just like it was something that we had and And then he officially joined Twitter, got this account banned. I'm looking at it now. It's not around anymore. So there are other ones.

I don't really want to say them just because like... Well, hold on, hold on. Jamie, stop recording. Whatever. Yeah, right. You can do it now. How about this?

This is totally off the books. How about this, Max? I'll start naming every Twitter account and you tell me if it's that or not. All right, can do it now this is totally off the books how about this max i'll start naming every twitter account and you tell me if it's that or not all right go all right at cold drill not coldplay now oh all right well i'm gonna put you on the spot and people hate doing this name three uh hasu mountain artists and i'm gonna grab tapes by them if I have them and play them. Okay, cool. Can you do... Do you have Piper Spray? Is it Piper...

I thought it was Piper Spray. Yeah, I said Piper Spray. Yeah. Do you have Piper Spray? Jimmy, check if I have it up there. Krolarog. Hurry up. Piper Spray.

I want a Piper Spray. Where's the Hasu? All the way on top. Oh, my goodness. I have... The funny thing is... The stools are over here. The funny thing is I have a spreadsheet of all these. Piper spray. All the way on top. Oh my goodness. The funny thing is... The stools are over here. The funny thing is I have a spreadsheet of all these. I'm still making him do it.

So, yeah. Do you want the footstool? Yes, please. And then what? Piper spray, what else? Let me think. Maybe... Blue is a little taller than purple, so let me know.

Climb up like Spider-Man. How about Black Hat Impossible World? Is that there, Jamie? Piper's right. We got to grab it. We got that one. We got Piper's right. We got it.

What else? Black Hat Impossible World. Black Hat Impossible World. Do we have it? Yeah. That one is Housepost 63. He's good with the numbers. How about Wobbly?

Popular monetarist. Piper Spray, Black Hat, and Wobbly. Max, what are your final words for the cassette community? Make them good. Final words for the cassette community. Hang up on it. Just shut the thing. Take them good. Final words for the cassette community. Hang up on it. Just hang up. Just shut the thing. Thank you. so Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.