Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #184 | 1.1.23
Episode Date: January 1, 2023End of year episode where we determine the top 200 tapes of 2022. Guests include Matt and Jen of Astral Editions, Peter of FTAM, Eamon of Strategic Tape Reserve, also joined remotely by Matty and Ryan.... Played tracks by: Tim Thorton (4), Shells, claire rousay and more eaze, five Bubble criteria, Suncarcass, Desolation Plains, The Soft Pink Truth, Jeff Tobias, Heta Bilaletdin, Bardo Todol, and Moth Cock.
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🎵 Tab, play it again.
I stepped on it and I thought...
These are some of the stinkiest socks I've ever smelled.
What are you pointing at me for?
Did you not hear it?
I think that was a dig at you.
No, I didn't hear it.
What a way to end the year.
What did it say? Stink that was a dig at you. No, I didn't hear it. What a way to end the year. What did it say?
Stinkiest socks?
Do it again.
These are some of the stinkiest socks I've ever smelled.
Oh, maybe they're saying these are some of the stinkiest socks.
I thought it was...
You said bees?
You thought it said bees.
I thought it said bees or something.
I thought maybe there was a thing that I have stinky socks.
I didn't know about it.
Tabs out.
Cassette.
I'm sorry.
This is what an awful way to end the year calling be a stinkies.
Yeah.
Tabs out.
Cassette podcast.
Episode number 184.
184.
Not just.
Yeah, but 18.
It's tradition around here that we at the end of the year.
It's tradition in music at the end of the year it's tradition in music at the
end of the at the end of the year in art what you do is you take all the art that everybody did
and you put it you okay get over here
get all this art and you say you give it all give it all little kisses and you say I'm going to rank all of it.
Oh, by the way, I'm Mike.
I'm Jamie. I'm Joe. Hey, Joe.
Hey. I'm Matty. And Matty
McPherson, savior
of Tabs Out, who writes
every single review
on the site. I know. Because Ryan's back.
Please.
Also joining us.
And we'll have plenty of other people popping in as we do in the end of
the year but like i was saying we need to make a list we have to it is a pack that we have with art
how long we've been doing this podcast god damn like 10 years right that's a word i've heard a
long time we've been doing it like have we done a show like this before i don't we have but i don't
think you've been there okay an end of the year show with callers because the way you text me you
said you know like we always do yeah and then i was thinking have we ever done anything like this
before you've never yeah you've never shown up for an end of the year show and you've never listened
to an episode so you have no yeah it just dawned on me when i told you that that you were like joe
has no clue what this is no i'm I was like, we're not bringing tapes?
Not really.
Not really, Joe.
No, not really.
It's a little more cash.
What am I doing here?
That's cool. You can still bring tapes.
No, I'll save them for another time.
Kind of at the end of the year, we have a little office party.
How many times has this happened?
How many times? Probably like four times.
I think I've done it twice.
Sometimes we take our pants down, copy our butts on the cop machine, we pass them out.
I can't get on my phone to check, but I highly doubt it.
What are you talking about?
Matty, chime in here.
We've done this before.
We have done this three times, and the first time we did it was in 2020 when there could
not be a top, there were not 200 tapes released.
Last year, there were more than 200 tapes released and you had to rank them but in 2020 there was a weird shocking thing we've had like seth graham mike nigro we've done the top
list for a long time i am not going to waste my time at the at the holiday party at the end of
the year list arguing if we ever done it don't gaslightlight me. We had Riley Walker on the show. We've had Indie Rock
Superstar. Howard Stern?
Has he been on Howard Stern? No, that's Riley Martin.
Either way,
Baba Booey.
Mike, you're valid.
And we are going to make the list.
Should we just jump? We need, listen.
So this whole episode is you
going over 200 tapes?
No. God, that, what, have you ever been to a holiday party?
Have you worked at a place where you've had a holiday party?
Are you going to open something up?
Are you going to give me a present?
I feel like you gave me a present once.
I do have a present for you downstairs.
Yeah, you'll get something.
All right, all right.
You'll get something.
All right, let's check it out.
That's a part of it.
Start.
That's a part of it. Start. That's separate.
Listen, I want to take it down a notch.
Okay, thank you.
Are you serious already?
I thought that was like at the end of the party.
I want to make the list.
We have to make the list.
We have to bake it.
Because it's not like the other list.
It's not like the boring... Like, name some websites, Matty,
name some websites that also do lists.
Oh, I mean BankCamp.
BankCamp.
BankCamp makes lists?
BankCamp's a store.
Why are they making lists?
They have to make them like once every month.
We just do it right at the end.
Wait, Bank...
That's like Target making a list.
Yeah, the top stuff.
The best deals and steals yeah the
worst part about those lists is that when you go and click on the tapes they're sold out but on the
tabs ad list we have tapes that are still in stock we oh listen to be able to buy no one wants to buy
the tapes on the list here's the thing what do you think a list is for jamie what do you think a list what is the what is the purpose of a list your call ends in 10 minutes what did you what did you get the
welcome i have to hang up and call back i guess are you serious yeah goodbye i forgot with google
meet that you gotta that it's a limited time goodbye do you guys want me to switch over to
my zoom that has unlimited time i already sent out the link to everyone.
Yeah, you did.
Oh my god, you ruined the holiday party, Jamie.
Alright, well let's be quick.
What's the purpose of a list?
To aggregate a bunch of things together and then you look at that
and then you can rank those things
and do what you want.
Here's Jamie again using big words to make other people
feel stupid.
That's a computer science word.
It's to get website clicks and to have a cool list.
Okay?
To have a cool list.
So let's go over what.
So we're going to have 200 on our list.
What's 200?
200 needs to be something that's funny.
200.
200.
What was 200 last year?
Look it up, Jamie.
What was 200 last year?
Someone should look at 200 on the list and go.
It was Titanic 2.
Everyone knows that.
Oh, the number 200?
Yeah, they should go...
What are the ones they should laugh at?
You mean what was in last place last year?
He means what is in last place.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I think Matty was correct.
It was...
Oh, the Titanic 2 tape on Suite 309?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
That is funny because we make fun of Suite 309.
Do you see why that's funny?
Okay. He's like... Yeah. I get it. Okay, that is funny because we make fun of Sweet309 Do you see why that's funny?
He's like, yeah So we get to make fun of Tim
and make him 200
So the Tim Thornton teenage, he put out that tape
Where is it?
We have it around here somewhere, right?
Do you have all 200 here?
Probably, yeah
Astral Editions is trying to join, is that Matt and Jen?
Oh yeah, let them in
We have to tell them the call's gonna end
in seven minutes.
It's gonna end in seven minutes.
Hey!
Matt and Jen from Astral Spirits, how's it going?
Hello, what's up?
Jamie fucked up and the call's gonna end soon.
Quickly,
quickly, how has the running
Astral Spirits, how did it go this year?
It's been really
cool. we put our
first batch out um last month yeah what do you think what do you think should be on our top 200
list from astral spirits not additions as spirits because he keeps getting it wrong oh no wait wait
wait wait am i getting it wrong what am i getting wrong yes you're getting it wrong yeah we do additions yeah oh what's the difference is there a difference
uh spirits is more like jazz focused yeah it's more jazz focused but it's a but they're different
labels all together i thought it was the same late i thought it was like the same label but
it was just like part of that label where the additions it is it's like a sub label of spirits
yeah okay so you're nate created both of them um but then yeah handed over the reins of additions
to us yeah and additions initially was supposed to be like a the place where he could put stuff
out that wasn't necessarily jazz um but now it's kind of just turned into
like, we both
just do whatever we want for the most part.
So I don't know.
And how long have I been screwing this up?
Day one.
I think my battery's going to die too.
Is that my battery? Yeah, it's your low battery.
I didn't know I was going to have to
use my phone.
So then for additions maddie
can we real quick check how many astral additions are on the two astral additions and i believe just
a single spirits this year astral additions out of that match from last year or last month
can you believe it do you do you guys want to take a guess on which two those are?
No, because
every release
should be on a year list for sure.
Please take a guess.
All the artists that were releasing that badge
are making the list.
Oh, wow.
Well, let's do this.
I'm not going to ask you
To guess which tapes they are
Tell me where on the list
Do you think they are, which numbers
I love these questions
That you guys always ask
Well hopefully
Like top 20, but
I don't know
Wow
Excuse me You think both of them are in the top 20
out of 200 you think they're both in the top 20 coming up i think somewhere between 1 and 200
probably okay that's fair that's fair that narrows it down that narrows it down it narrows it down
and it's kind of a funny answer. Let's divide it
in half. How about one to one hundred?
What's coming?
What label do you
do again?
They're going to hang up on us.
And what's coming in
2023 from Astral Editions?
Lots of stuff.
Yeah, they never tell.
Oh, you signed NDAs.
No, we just
can't talk about it yet.
But some records...
Yeah.
There's some stuff planned already.
And the rest
is coming together.
But, yeah.
We don't have the time frame down yet yet so that's why we can't really talk about it yeah nate is um a wonderful man but a hard man to
get a hold of he's extremely busy we gotta iron things out with him because he still does
okay well we're gonna let's play one of these two tapes then. We're not going to tell you which one,
but do you want to play the one that's lower?
What does it mean when it's on a list,
if it's lower or higher?
You know what it means.
Lower is better.
And what label do these two people do?
You can have a lovely one, thank you.
All right, which one are we playing,
the lower one or the higher one?
Play the lower one. Thank you. Which one are we playing? The lower one or the higher one? Play the
lower one.
Better the stinker.
No, wait. Higher is...
Hang up on them, please.
They've already answered.
Thank you, guys.
Let's all call back.
Alright. So we figured out that Tim Thornton tape's going to be... Thank you guys. Let's all call back. All right.
So we figured out that Tim Thornton tape is going to be...
Who typically joins us for these things.
But he used to work.
And I was going to call his work and prank phone call his work.
But that seems so immature now.
So I'm not going to do that.
All right.
So we have that.
We have now the next 30.
See, here's how we do it, Joe.
The next 30. What tape do's how we do it, Joe. The next 30.
What tape do we play from?
Oh, yeah, Matty, what are we playing from Astral Editions,
which I know the name of the label.
This one's rough.
I think we should be playing The Shells.
Oh, absolutely.
I feel like, did we play The Shells tape already, though?
Not that it matters.
Wait, so the tapes that we're playing on the current show
today are in the top 200 but we've never played them before joe b if you're not going to show up
every fucking time and put in the hours don't i don't know if i've ever been invited to one of
these they were like covet episodes i did a couple of those yeah um but what what is this a shells
tape remind us like shells remind well then remind us who shells is.
Shells is an artist out of Michigan,
I believe the Ann Arbor area,
although she may have moved around,
been a long time kind of just DIY-er in the scene there.
Runs a label called Grinko Records, if I recall,
and she makes incredible, just bloody incredible guitar music shit vibes
real fucking hard and i'm gonna take a bit i'm super excited to see her dropping into astral
editions to do this very much kind of in the vein of if this is what matt and jen are gonna curate
yeah let's keep going with it really just talented guitar players stuff like that nice like a c50 because there's a
20 minute cut on that there's a couple eight or ten minute ones just lovely yeah because the next
30 tapes or so needs to just like it doesn't they don't matter what they are it just needs to be a
good like there's to be some jazz in there you should see the word trio or duo a few times uh what else you have a duo okay yeah
yeah so who's the duo it's uh it's claire and marie nice don't never stop texting me
oh on the orange milk list that made wire i'm at 19 and you know i disagree with the wire there
i think they had a better tape as a trio and we're're going to put that in. Shots fired. Well, you know why that is?
Because that's on Orange Milk, right?
That is.
They had two Orange Milk tapes.
Pull up the Orange Milk Discogs from this year.
Orange Milk is a label.
See, back in the day, when we first, Joe,
you've been asking how long we've been doing this podcast.
Yeah.
We've been doing it long enough that we made Orange Milk.
We made Orange Milk.
We made Orange Milk.
They were little babies
back then yeah now i look i hear an orange it used to be an orange milk tape would come out
and i would i and everyone would go oh shit and now it's like who cares now i say okay boomer
okay boomer orange milk probably had their strongest batch in a very long time i would
say that too to be nice i would say that too the same
way i tell my grandfather that he still looks strong yeah you're looking good yeah you're
looking good gramps no i can still i bet you can still throw a fastball grandpa you ever put on
the old uniform yeah he was a baseball man yeah i bet keith i go guys i see keith i say yeah you
can still make an orb in photoshop big guy you're still looking great that lens flare is now though i was over at a show and a guy had a hundred percent electronica tape
and i'm like did keith do the art here and the guy's like no i'm just egging keith i just really
fuck with the style and i just wanted to copy it yeah that's that's that's like probably that's
the next generation that kid was probably four he probably four years old when Keith Crank was making art.
He grew up watching them do it.
This guy had to have a fake ID to play the venue.
He was listening to Tabs Out instead of watching
Saturday morning cartoons.
Yeah, it's like Kobe Bryant watching Michael Jordan play.
And then you grow up.
So yeah, all the orange milk tapes this year,
I got a stack of them.
Only one of them that I have has a text on the spine.
They're all blank.
Oh, yeah.
What have they put out this year?
Read me off a list.
All right, I got it.
The Moreys and Claire, obviously.
Yeah.
Mad Made Hill, Ashley Paul.
Promises.
Padna.
White Sons.
Problems.
Something in Morse code that has Seth Graham and Mari. Oh Sons. Problems. Something in Morse Code
that has Seth Graham and Maury.
Oh, yeah. DigiFay.
Bloody Boys. Claire Rousey.
Maury's. Goo Age.
B. Michael. Shug.
Andy Loebs.
Loebs. Andy Loebs. Proxy.exe.
I don't know that one.
Luis Pestana and Nick Storing.
This is quite a list. Mat maddie how many are on the list
how many are on the top two hundo five five of them that's right with five i still think orange
milk what's the percentage of that and honestly they've got they've got a few in the top 2.5
because it's not bad part of them are just so bloody good. That White Suns tape, they don't put out Industrial Rock or that kind of stuff,
and it's fucking short.
It's breezy.
It's good.
I love it.
Should we play something from Orange Milk, or should we just take it enough?
Maybe we should move on and play something.
How are you choosing what you're going to play?
I don't know.
Typically, we'd be more on top of the guests,
and other people would have logged in by now.
So play something on Orange Milk. I don't know what Jamie did. No, no, typically other people, we'd be more on top of the guests and other people would have logged in by now. But Jamie...
So play someone on Orange Bowl.
I don't know what Jamie did.
What am I supposed to do?
I don't know what he did with this link.
He bought, Jamie bought a really old, crusty link.
The new president.
Well, first of all, let me assert my firm belief
that the only thing we have to fear is
the air of hope.
It's all we need to see. Thank you. so Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How's it going? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We were on the floor
But you wanted something more
And I'd be very scared
Tumbling backwards
Take me back there
We were on the floor
Closer than before
Where did it get?
I just can't talk and I can't hide
I can't comprehend
I'm not around you, I feel like I'm gonna die
Okay, that's exaggeration, but at least I'm gonna cry
My head drops on your shoulder when we're lying side by side
I don't know why I don't say it, this nerdy is hard to hide
But I'm just afraid my heart will be broken once again
Then I'll never see you again, even as a fan
So I guess in a way I'll try to play pretend
And wait till things get light, I'm ready to be your last
You said you wanted something more
And I'd feel very scared
Tell the wind that would take me back
Where we were on the floor
Closer than before
Where you could begin
But it's gone darker
I can't hide it, you can't see them I'm talking, making this hard-earned dream come to an end
Joker on your collarbone, mind if we just hit the road? And one more drink and one more floor to close out
One more song to play
You goddamn, it's my fate
The Alice in Mayhem and the clubs are closed
I miss that feeling that everyone knows
You can't love me, baby
Your eyes on your mind while we are all alone We are home Home Home
Home
Home
Home
Back room, see me back where we were
Home
Home
Home
Home
Home
Home Home I need to be here I'm so tired of my life
I need to understand
I'm so tired of my life
I'm so tired of my life
I'm so tired of my life
I'm scared
I'm scared
I'm scared
I'm scared
I'm scared
I'm scared
I'm scared Should we let Peter Woods on the call?
Oh yeah, let Peter Woods in.
Hey Peter.
Hello.
Oh, Dr. Peter Woods.
Doctor, thank you for joining us.
You weren't a Punisher shirt there?
No.
No, okay.
See, it got canceled.
Yeah.
I can't see it too well.
I thought it was the Punisher.
He's eating like that is going to give you a nightmare.
Are you guys hearing my soundboard?
Wait and see.
We can't hear you.
A nightmare.
Me?
Get real.
Now, Joe, you don't know this, but
this is Peter.
Peter runs a label.
It's a bunch of letters, and no one really
is sure what order they go in. It's something
like F-T-A-M or something
similar to that order.
I change it every time.
He's constantly changing it in small ways to
trick people. I like tricks.
We got Eamon. But he has his own soundboard. Oh, that's nice. And small ways to trick people. I like tricks. We got Eamon.
But he has his own soundboard, and he seemed to bring it.
Peter, who is this also joining us?
My cup overflowed.
We got Eamon from Strategic Tape Reserve.
And Eamon from Strategic Tape Reserve.
Local legend Eamon.
Oh, hey.
How's it going?
Hi.
Hi, everybody.
I'm good.
How are you?
So we're good. We're just over here
creating
the top 200 list
is what we're doing.
And we're creating it right now?
We're creating it. Or it's already created and we're going
over it. We're kind of like,
well, if you want to destroy the magic,
we made it back in
sometime in July.
Okay. All right.
We finalized it over the summer
but like yeah we kind of like want to say we're making it on the fly but like so we are going
over all 200 listen yes we're god damn it joe will you just let us be happy what was 199
that we don't need to discuss at all but these are two people who joined us who both run labels
and you're gonna put them on the list if they have if they're nice to mike if they're nice if you know
if they if they got what it takes okay i think they should just be on the list or they're gonna
put something on the list i mean we showed up we showed up that has they showed up to work i mean
maybe they should each do we have them fight or compete in some way? Like right now, Matty, how many strategic tape reserves and how many, I believe it's, what are the letters?
FTAM.
FTAM.
How many, who has more?
Who is better?
Who had a better year?
Well, FTAM did, according to our list.
Strategic tape reserve, though, they had a series, a dedicated series.
I'm sorry I yelled at you about the pizza.
I fixed you something to make it up to you.
Who's been on more episodes of the podcast, though?
I think Eamon has.
I don't know, but is there, like, so you're saying Strategic Tape Reserve has how many more tapes on the list than F.T.A.M.? It's actually F.T.A.M. F.T.A.M. has double the tapes as Strategic Tape Reserve has how many more tapes on the list than FTAM?
It's actually FTAM.
FTAM has double the tapes as Strategic Tape Reserve.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Amen.
Wow.
Do you have a response to this breaking news, this late breaking news?
Because I would have said you would have had at least 100 tapes on the list.
It's well-deserved.
It's well-deserved.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
I would argue, though,
in your defense, I feel like my tapes were less important than your tapes.
You had really some very important
tapes this year.
I don't know.
Were your tapes educational?
How
educational were your tapes?
Probably
pretty educational.
Right.
But they were probably also entertaining or,
um,
had other qualities.
Um,
yeah.
I mean,
like my tapes were like very frivolous,
right?
It was just like,
okay.
Okay.
Putting crap on plastic to try to make money.
And I just want to be clear that that plan failed.
You know, I lost thousands of dollars on tapes.
Crime error.
But Peter, you made thousands of dollars.
One of these days, eating like that is going to be terrible.
It balances out
right like it's about you know the tapes lose money but that builds my clout that i can make
money on the reviews um along with getting just hundreds odd pod hundreds of dollars because
people take keep taking my music on spotify and adding it to asmr playlists so it's like oh weird it's a it's a it's about an ecosystem right it's
an ecosystem of business and capital that i've invested myself into and what we're seeing is
synergistic growth over the course of the year um okay a lot of jargon makes sense hey man do you
want to i mean i don't know this happen. He's just getting larger and larger.
I don't know what's more valuable,
actually selling a cassette tape
or having a spot on our list.
Do you want to purchase maybe a spot from Peter?
I mean, we can facilitate this.
Do you want to right now?
I mean, Matty, how many strategic tape preservers How much are how many strategic are on the list this much um amin has a tape spot that's higher than any of peter's stuff
interesting interesting interesting well i think that's like that's the whole thing right
is that like my tapes are frivolous and bad. He has less
of them, but they're good
and interesting. Or educational.
And edifying.
Edifying. Right. Yeah.
I mean, we're learning, right? I mean, like,
I didn't know shit about
advanced shapes before.
That's what I'm saying.
I've never visited places.
Never. Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm glad to hear this.
And you listen to my tapes and what do you get?
You just get a bunch of people clunking around with some contact mics.
That's not... No one's learning anything.
We all know how contact mics work.
They're fucking great though.
Yeah, that's true.
Wow.
So yeah, I mean like... I think we're just seeing how long we could go for silence
I was holding my breath
and you know you can like
you can just like do whatever you want
okay yeah yeah alright we can
um
for 25 bucks we will
swap the spot of Peter's favorite tape
of the year and move up the
trigonometry tape. We can't do it. There's a whole
exchange conversion
thing we gotta do. I'll do it
for $25. I'll do it for $10.
I'll make a
It's Deutschmarks, Mike.
Maybe you can help me with this.
Is there a way for us to
and maybe this is on one of your tapes
is there, and oh Peter you are maybe this is on one of your tapes is there and oh
peter you are a doctor and and correct me if i'm wrong they let you go inside of harvard
and they let you take many like tests and stuff at other colleges yeah
is there is there a way then they gave you a diploma yeah you you understand college
keep going from from a little college called mitt university uh-huh uh-huh um is there a way
for us to invent a new number and to put a new number on the list for a spot for both of you to share and put a
tape for both from both of you.
I mean,
I think you're overcomplicating the situation,
right?
Thank you.
Why do you,
why do you need a new number to add a tape to the list?
You can just add numbers to other numbers.
Have you ever seen that schoolhouse rock song?
Hey,
little 12 toes.
One,
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
nine.
We need deck Dell and dough on the list. We need to add those numbers.
All I'm saying is 24.
Garfield, you have to stop!
There it is. That's what I'm talking about.
So we do it in hexadecimal.
What's this, four more?
I fucking love that cat.
I'm stirring! I'm stirring!
Although I shouldn't quote that guy.
He's the one who got arrested for January 6th.
I don't think he got arrested.
I don't think he got arrested, but he was there.
He was there.
So what?
Maybe he was just sightseeing.
Everyone loves the police.
That's the highest number.
Count with me here, all right?
You forgot the anchovies.
What do you...
What do you... What do you...
Each of you,
what do you think is a tape
that you think should be
on the list
that you did not have
anything to do with?
Well, I mean,
the Shapes for Experts,
probably.
Oh, do you mean
not from...
Not from me.
Yes, precisely.
Maybe the Guido Mobius tape that was on Super Polar.
Okay.
Another German-based label?
Is that one on the list?
It is really good.
We got a couple different ones.
We do have a few from that label.
Maybe we'll play something else from that label.
Yeah, let's play something.
Because we have...
What is on the list from that label, Matty?
Well, we've got...
Actually, I think this one is the real winner of all they put out this year um five bubble criteria
six or bi yeah we'll jam something that right here we got a real le bradford throwback
that one sounded like 93 le bradford just kept idea after idea no fucking around
peter what's your what's your call um well okay so i mean i've got a couple i just
posted my own best of lists don't say the one that you did a beautiful review on we know that
okay yeah i was about to say like i did a beautiful beautiful review on one if you talk to me you know
how much i talk about this album because it's fantastic. But I'm not going to say that one.
What I will say is Sun Carcass, Flower Crown, Off a Lurker, Lurker Bias, Best Harsh Noise Tape of the Year.
Two sides of just intense, full volume, but textured and nuanced noise that is worth every listen.
And I don't think it's a tape that got nearly enough hype I think
a lot of people slept on it so I'm going to push
that one because that's the one that people should be listening
to because they probably
haven't listened to it before. That is on the list and it
is in the top I can confirm
the top 50 I believe
good oh my god
it's good guess what
it's right next to the super Polaris Tapas five-bubble criteria.
Oh, my God.
I'm looking at it right now.
They are literally right next to each other.
This is insane.
And a lot of people are going to say fake news.
You changed it right there.
Joe, I want you to look at it.
So the list is done.
God.
This is good because a list will need some harsh noise in there.
So the weird harsh noisers kind of come out from their dirty-ass homes,
and they're like, oh, what is this, a list?
And they're like, oh, is there any harsh noise on it?
And they're like, oh, yeah, there is some fucking old sun carcasses fucking on it or whatever.
So that's good.
Yeah, get those.
Everyone in Cleveland is always all like,
oh, there's just too many zones.
Where's the hearse?
Yeah, where's the fucking hearse?
Is there any fucking hearse?
Did you see the fucking tabs out list?
There's fucking gore puckuses on it.
So yeah, so we want those idiots
because you want,
because that's the one thing about our list
is like it's the coolest... Because that's the one thing about our list is like, it's the cool list too.
It's the cool list.
And like, it doesn't... You can't
put like...
Like, good... Like,
the stuff can't be too good. Like, it's gotta
be a lot of like, dummies if that makes
sense. Does that make sense?
Banking out list, too basic. Quietest list,
too posh. Tabs out list,
little Goldilocks that're just right it's
just right everybody thank you nice thank you well said Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Come on, come on, come on. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and start the engine. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. so Thank you. Hey, Ryan. Ryan the Stellar
Hey buddy
What is going on?
You
As devotees to Tabs Out will know
Basically kept the
Place afloat, kept the lights on
Writing every single
Review and then you
You went dark Are you back? you back for you're you're
back writing now right you got me you're the only ones that got me too i'm not writing anywhere else
i have no time to do that i love it i love it so i'm gonna start sending you tapes again you got
my last package i'm i assume yeah i've got a stack of like 30 to still check out good keep you busy
like send me some more tapes i'm i'm ready for i'm going to
i gotta hold i got i got enough for you they're coming whatever whatever you recording jimmy yeah
um i want to talk about let's talk about the the ft am tapes that are on the list real quick
phone nil trio 11th anniversary is that the big boy the three cassette that's the triple dipple that yeah nice one that's that's that's in the top 50 the sea sea body woodland synthesis territorial
gobbing hot singles in your area and warren enstrom the electric tapes you played that
we did play an episode or two ago got it and then the strategic
tape reserve on their front oh so many the the visiting places chip perkins you didn't like but
i fucked with who i who didn't like it you didn't like you were like six six point five out of ten
me i was like nine real quick real quick mad on. Real quick. Real quick, Matty. Real quick.
Real quick. When you're
on the air, don't give away
the fact that we give these things numerical
ratings. Alright.
That's not a numerical rating. I was pulling those
numbers out of my ass there, Mike.
Yeah, but let's see
what I really did give it. Because we do
do that.
Oh, we do? Oh, 6. 6.5 yeah i didn't really like
it that much you mentioned my name out of what uh with no ramifications that's not the way it works
old schooler right here but those um those tapes on strategic tape reserve what do they call them
the listening by learning yeah learning by listening
learning by listening learning by listening alert learning by listening learning
by listening i i really do adore those things i love them all right joe b what i know that spot
i'm putting you on the spot because this list doesn't really have your kind of like dungeon
synth on it and your adventure stuff uh-huh so i wanted to like you know i wanted to like let you be part of this oh good
do you want to like pick a few of your faves and roll some dice pick a few well do you i got two
that i brought that i thought were just uh they were fun yeah yeah they're pretty fun yeah do you
i showed you one at the party but i'm gonna show jamie it has a visual component but i think uh
can they can't i don't think we can oh Oh, I gotta grab my phone. Ryan's raising his hand.
Ryan, what do you need, buddy?
I'm raising my hand.
I just want to say two things.
I don't think I've ever spoken to Joe B. before.
Hi, Joe!
He left the room.
As soon as you raised your hand, you infuriated him.
Please don't raise your hand again.
I know.
I'll raise my real hands this time.
You can see it.
I also want to say, bring on more Dungeon Synth, Joe.
I only listen to Tabbed Out for tapped out for your dungeon what he said uh hi nice to meet you and play more dungeon synth oh yeah i try but my cock walks me big fan he said big fan
basically big fan i got a lot of fans yeah well you brought something very special tapes joe that
you play and then they're all like sold out and you know expensive as hell on discogs you got to jump on them fast sometimes joe's quick on this kind of stuff he's
got awful eyes he's got awful eyesight but he's really quick on buying these tapes i get it sent
right to my uh alerts right to my brain he's got that elon musk implant yeah all right so i'm gonna
play or not play but share let's play i'll share And we'll put it on the list and we'll play.
This tape by
Desolation Plains. I just found this label.
Old Stories. I like how
he's doing, he's reverting back to the old
style of episode. He's like,
I brought this tape and I'm gonna play. No, sorry.
It's the office party. Yeah, I've never
done one of these. Unbutton the top button.
I gotta unbutton the lampshade on my head. Yeah, have a
drink, man. I just found this label. Ibutton the top button. I've got to unbutton the lampshade on my head. Yeah, have a drink, man.
I just found this label.
I can't remember the front.
Oh, what's MN?
Minnesota?
Minnesota.
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
It's cold there.
It's cold, especially this time of year, but lovely.
Be a man.
Made in Canada, though.
Might not play this.
Might not be on my list.
I don't know.
Do we like Canadians on the list?
All right, so this tape opens up.
What kind of case is this?
What's that called?
Maltese Cross.
Brad Pack.
A Brad Pack.
Is that a Brad Pack?
That's not a Brad Pack.
You always correct me on that.
I don't know.
A Thad Pack.
I guess that's a very specific maker of whatever that is.
Oh, hi Mark.
Oh, hi.
I'm a counter-puncher, you hit me.
Alright, so straight from the gate, has anyone ever heard of the game, anyone on the call,
the role-playing game
Mjörkborg?
What?
Well, this is compatible with Mjörkborg.
Oh, fantastic. Yeah, just in case you want to play
at home.
So the inside is a little map.
Is that your doorbell? Yeah, I think your doorbell.
Don't worry about my personal stuff going on.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I thought you wanted me to get it.
All right, Jamie, I'll show you. See see it's got a little map anyone see that yeah all right so it came with that and it came with a little skeleton it's a little scary okay no it's way
too scary are you kidding me a little scary all right so the skeleton starts at the bottom of
the map all right here you can play jamie's gonna play right now it's like a one and a half inch
plastic skeleton.
Yeah.
It's a mini.
It's a skeleton mini.
Now, this is hard because, you know, the podcast.
There's also a companion app that is the actual game that you can get on the Apple Store.
Like the app comes with the tape.
Well, yeah.
It's free.
All right, Jamie.
You can play.
Hit new game.
Shall we play a game?
He's going to play the game right now.
It's a text-based RPG.
You don't really have to read the whole thing if you want, or you can.
You find yourself in Kyrgios, the Eternal Frozen.
Before you lies a sorry bastard of a Frost Knight.
The corpse clutches a sword plunged into its chest as it bathes in a pool of its own blood.
What do we want to do?
Do we want to plunder?
Plunder the corpse. Okay.
You stick your filthy
hand in, and we get a sword,
some probably magic
stardust, and some potion. Alright, pick that up.
You gotta click on them. Okay.
Okay. Now decide where
you want to go. So then at the bottom,
it's like a compass, north, south,
east. Well, I don't know what... Okay, I'm gonna
just go north. So now you get to move the skeleton.
Okay.
Because this is the map of the game.
Okay, so what was I...
On the inside of the J-card.
On the inside of the fold-out J-card.
And then the tape we should be playing right now,
because that's the soundtrack to the adventure.
Get it?
That's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool.
I like it.
Have you played the whole game?
I haven't played the whole game.
But we can stop playing it.
But one of the fun things is, sometimes you're you're gonna fight go until you have to fight something okay
i'm just gonna keep going just keep going north until there's like a rat or a skeleton or a zombie
okay so i'm gonna fight it says you wish to you're in the midst of a combat do you wish to flee like
a coward no fight fight okay fight flee no attack the vures. How many vultures are there?
They both died. There was two vultures.
What did they leave? Plunder the corpse.
Okay.
Wow.
Nothing? Nothing in either.
Okay. Well, sometimes they'll drop a little icon of like a CD.
And when you pick that up, it's a link to a download code from Bandcamp.
There's a secret soundtrack to this game that you have to
assemble by beating all the bad guys.
And what's the name of the label?
Yeah, Old Stories.
They only have two tapes out
both the same project, which I believe is the
person that does the label. The other tape
comes with a link to a
read-along adventure
that you read along and then
in the J card is a spot
to write the inventory
you pick up along the way.
And then as you're going through the dungeon
or the castle, you play certain tracks.
What will these Gen Zers think of next?
It's amazing.
I just picked this up and I thought it was
probably one of the most, I don't know,
pretty fun little things.
This one's equally as fun.
You saw this and you just thought this was one of the, pretty fun little things. And this one's equally as fun. You saw this and you just thought
this was one of the most pretty fun
little things you saw.
So what came first, the app or the tape?
Or did they come out together?
They came out together.
Age-old question.
What came first, the app or the tape?
They came out at the same time.
You want to roll the dice and find out
where we put it on the list?
I don't think we really figured out how that works I think we can figure it out man we're all and we'll just add them all together I mean
somebody's getting kicked off yeah what if it's over 200 137 137 Matty we need to take 137
off the list
they don't even get bumped they're just off
let me see what it is
it's a tour tape too
so that's not that big of a deal
but that's a good one
well here's the thing though it's not that good
because it's 137 so it's like
really high up there if you want
you can switch it with another one
and take that one off,
but you'll be needing to make 137 this tape,
Joe B's tape.
Can we get one more roll?
Well, no, he already rolled the bones.
Well, I rolled them, and I can only roll them once a day.
And the bones is like...
We got other tour tapes on,
but we should acknowledge why I think the tour tapes are important.
It's because all these fucking bands can't get their vinyl pressed.
And their tour tapes are actually pretty good.
There are better ones on the list, though.
Sorry.
Turn the app off, Jamie.
So what are you suggesting?
What I'm suggesting is we can let it go.
We can do a little salute for 137.
We can type that down. I'm going to put can let it go. We can do a little salute for 137. We can type that down.
I'm going to put a little slash mark there.
What should go in its place?
I don't know if I said what it was called.
It's the Sword of Hailstone, and that's the name of the app, too.
And it should be even lower on the list.
Why don't you put the tape?
Did it not come with the tape?
Let me just...
Did I not bring the tape?
Maybe it's in the bag.
Let me make sure I've got the name
oh found it
this has more color
and it's still available
I really like the color
there you go
I also want to talk about the list
I want to talk about doing number
69 on the list
because I do think number 69 needs to be
specifically funny.
Sexy. No.
None of them should be sexy.
There should be not one
sexy tape on the list.
Well, Matty already did put
something funny there.
I put what I think anyone could agree was
a pretty good, just kind of stable
workhorser. We're doing the Long Mom
Potion Castle tape for 69? I think that's
perfect. I think that's perfect. I think 69
I think that's a perfect one.
He's going to have another one probably
next month, but hey, there's no...
Where are you getting that information from?
From the Longmont Potion Castle
emails I get. I've been getting emails from him for
like eight years. I wonder if we could get
Longmont Potion Castle to do something on Astral
Editions. That would be huge why astral editions i don't know because they're looking they're looking for
they're looking for new upcoming talent okay the thing about his tapes is that he only does them
like once every now and again and he seems to be sourcing the chrome himself so and because it's
longmont potion castle he's got that scarcity and demand supply economics
like set i bought two copies of that album one on cd one on tape i will give that man fifty dollars
a year fifty dollars here all right let's talk let's talk let's just do this no let's talk top
ten oh oh wait we're skipping to top? You want to ease up to it?
I thought we were starting from the bottom.
We have been.
We have been.
We've been slowly getting in.
Slowly?
It's 200.
We got to 69.
Now we're at top 10?
What else did you feel like talking about?
I don't know.
Maybe 150.
Okay.
What do you want to know about 150?
Maybe 100.
80?
Yeah.
We've never gotten 80, and now we're already to the top 10.
100, right in the middle.
Right in the middle.
50?
I thought it'd be good.
25?
You know, now top 10, it's almost over.
Okay, we can talk.
Before we know it, we'll get to one.
No, I don't.
Well, does 100 need to be.
What's in the top 10?
Does 100 need to be a good tape, or can 100 be any tape?
Does 100 need to be, because 100 is kind of be any tape? Does 100 need to be? Because 100
is kind of like a lot of people, to be
honest, are going to open up the top 200
and they're not going to look at above 100.
Because they're going to say
they're going to look right to the bottom.
They're going to go to the bottom. See, I think they'll go to the middle
and then the top 100. I think they'll go to the bottom
to look at 200 and laugh at it.
I think the top 100,
I think the tape that's at
100 was important because it was a great ryan mastell review what oh that's right
what is number about number 100 okay well then what is 100 you think it was you've only done
like five reviews since you've been yeah ryan do you want to guess what it is? It's going to suck if you get it wrong.
Yeah, I'm going to blow it.
Yeah, because it's like your big...
It's not the one you said shouldn't be on the top 200.
We took that off.
Oh, we took that one off.
Yeah, that was garbage.
Yeah, I never put that one up there.
Yeah.
It comes from a label that we haven't been covering.
I think it's run by one of the guys at Fubuchi Sushi.
Oh, is it Trouble in Mind? The one on Trouble in trouble in mind not a trouble in mind one matt lejoy yes yeah very good so you only
wrote like five reviews and you got it in like three guesses glad to have you back this was the
one that was not on the top two all right there you go okay so good so we're going into a hundred with
one that ryan really liked yeah i did that's good what did you like about this one um well
say the say the guitar or something i'm sure he plays like a rickenbacker hollow body rick or
something like that right he's got to play one like that who says luthier that's a pretty big
violin yes yes luthier
i'm see i'm looking at you know i'm looking at the list right now i see 101
is is is a fire tools tape who was last year was number one on the list and i'm just thinking
that's not tracking good damn what a big fall-off to have. You have to have some embarrassment there to, like...
I mean, you probably think, like,
wow, the list is out again.
Like, they're not going to put me...
They're not going to put me number one again,
but I'm probably in the top ten.
And then to be like, no, I'm not in the top ten, but okay.
And you keep scrolling and scrolling.
Well, it is on Doom Trip,
and Zach has been throwing a lot of shade your way this year.
Oh, yeah, I really don't like that guy.
Maybe we can take that off altogether.
I don't know the controversy. He has been
stealing my memes and tweets and funny
jokes. Oh, that's that person.
There were just so many different voices
this year that I think needed to be
risen up. We always love
the work of Angel. Essential
player. It's true.
I'm seeing Doom Mix Volume 6 at
91 here. Can we move that out of
the top 100?
Or maybe you can take 137 and put it there.
Yeah, that's what I want to do.
I want to put Joe B's...
You know what? I want to take out the Doom Mix.
I want Joe B's
instead of the Doom Mix.
I want the Doom Mix gone.
I want the Doom Mix gone. I want the do mix gone.
Yes.
And I don't just want it gone.
I want to,
I want a dump truck with some union men to come and load it up in the dump
truck and take it.
Are we doing that vote here?
I mean,
I'll make some,
I'll make some move around.
No,
no.
I want them to throw it into the,
I want them to throw it into the,
into the fucking ocean.
Michael Haley.
What?
What?
And also, I'm not mad, and everyone in this room can tell that I'm keeping my cool.
No, no, he's cool as a cucumber.
I'm cool as a cucumber, man.
I'm moving with a beat of jazz over here.
All right?
And by the way, Doom Mix Volume 6, I want it gone.
I want it out of here, and I want a Joe B's tape
there instead. And I never want to say...
And actually, hold on. Control F.
Doom Trip 3.
So the Fire Tools tape,
the Doom Mix, and the
Luxury Elite tape is...
I could take that off too, actually.
Okay.
Don't do that.
Here's what we'll do. Can we
misspell Doomtrip?
Sure. Dormtrip.
Can we put
maybe Doontrip?
Tripe. Tripe.
Doomtripe. Yes.
Doomtripe. Here's what I want.
Here's what I want.
I want...
Here are my demands. I want Doom
trip on the luxury elite tape
spelled Doom tripe, and I want the Doom
mix still gone. I'm not backing away
from that. I want it gone.
No.
It's my list.
We'll discuss this later.
Maddie does all the work, but it is Mike's list.
Maddie does absolutely 100% of the work.
Who publishes Golf Look? Me or you? Who publishes Golf Look? Me or you? maddie does absolutely 100 of the work me or you who publishes golf me or you who publishes what golf me or you golf wolf
i don't know i'm assuming you i don't know what that means that's right that's right
okay i will be uh taking we'll discuss this off air um okay so now we're in the top 100 which has ladies and gentlemen corn we got i'm seeing
aaron dilloway which i like that's good you can't make a list without aaron dilloway i'm seeing um
what are there any other funny numbers besides 69 13 i guess 50 is kind of an important number. 50, yeah. Because a lot of people also, the more kind of like...
23?
Jordan.
We'll get to that in a moment.
Okay.
Well, actually, I'm very excited now.
I think those numbers are all perfect.
The tapes in those positions are perfect.
You patting yourself on the back there, man?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
What did get the Jordan spot?
Blood Boys, Claire.
Okay.
That's good.
Another Orange Milk one.
Okay.
Another one?
That's a good callback because I mentioned Jordan in relation to Orange Milk earlier.
Oh, you did?
So that makes...
I did that on purpose.
So I must have... This is all coming together very nicely all right are we and then 13 13 now do you think
spooky should 13 be spooky oh oh man is it spooky all right good have you played the cover from that
that tape we have not should we talk about tape? I don't know anything about it.
Enlighten me.
Okay, well, because I just had the post that went up
that I kind of just sat on for months
and was like, fuck it, let's get it out.
So Thrill Jockey is back in the tape game.
They're starting to pivot into tapes
in kind of an interesting way.
They're putting off weirder one-offs
and tour tapes or EPs
that kind of are like a teaser for
other albums and the soft pink truth tape leaps and bounds out of the three they had well they're
like four or five but that one absolutely killer most of his none of the materials on his album
from this year what exactly did you have to say to thrill jockey you were in your open letter oh my god thrill is jockeyist my guy
you want to read it right now let's see if we can pull this fucker up here
timmy i'll do it you got some reverb on this jockeyist i'd like to fully congratulate you
on making greater strides when it comes to providing cassette releases to the general
republic thank you anyways though can we can we pull up those pull-up chairs and have a
serious talk here everybody get on get on the pull-up chair serious position i've been fascinated
by the more frequent and recent dives into limited borderline private press runs of recent releases
on cd but really cassette and i've been taking note they're nice nuggets but why all the limited
promotion and pressings of these releases look i'm
pro major indie labels releasing new and repressing old titles on tape regardless of whether they're
tied to a sub series like trouble in minds or anything in general i just don't understand why
they're not promoting them a bit more leaving it to guys like us or they're just opting to let it
stay out of print instead of fostering this further into a real deal this point an artist
ain't gonna do a seven inch as a promotional teaser the delays aren't gonna
warrant that timeliness but an 8 to 12 minute single huge opportunity 24 minute ep absolutely
that's why the soft pink truth tape fucking kills you guys not on the album and then a cover of
coils the anal staircase which was absolutely nailed very it's my favorite song
favorite song we're gonna love this cover
good job maddie like jesus to his cross it was nailed so we should we put okay so we're gonna
play that we're gonna play that we're gonna play the we're gonna play something from that
we're also i want to play you know what want to play? Let's back up a little bit.
I want to back up
on the list a little bit to the 20s.
You wanted to go right to the top 10.
And now you want to go back. I don't know what you want.
Think of baseball. Think of baseball. Think of baseball.
29.
The Jeff Tobias, what am I
feeling now, Tate?
Or what I am feeling
now. Jeff. Terrific year for jeff the year of jeff
where the o card is a 360 view of the guy's head his complete head the ears on the side
you take it out and it's the tape itself is his brain he's a wuss um he's a wuss he's not a wuss he's a wuss but i did make a note
here that just says the jeff so the jeff do we have it around here i feel like it's laying around
because i wanted to demonstrate how it works i can probably pull it up jeff tobias what i am
have you seen it joe? It's really funny.
I don't know if I have. Very funny.
I've never touched it in person.
Here's how it works.
There's the O-card.
I snatched it, Matty. I'm sorry.
The O-card is like his complete...
The front is his face. The sides
of the O-card are his ears.
The back is the back of his head.
The whole thing, you take out
the Neurokakasin side and it's got his ears. The back is the back of his head. The whole thing, you take out the
Neuroka case inside,
and it's got his face, and then the tape has his brain
on the shell. It's all glitched out when you take it out.
It's like a glitched out face, yeah, and then the brain is on the shell.
But here's what I'm saying for...
Who put this out?
It was him. He put it out on...
Oh, self-release, yeah.
I want to say... You know what, we're going to play
a little bit off of that. But I want to say for the next
year for Jeff Tobias,
let's do
one for the bottom.
You know what I mean? Let's see the
shorts. X-rated.
It doesn't have to be X-rated. Oh, tasteful.
It has to be tasteful.
But then you just slide it.
I'll shoot it.
Joby will offer his would you have an iphone
iphone 10 he'll have an iphone you come over here to the studios
i'll clean out the corner whatever right swear some nice casual slack something yeah
we'll take one we'll take it one step at a time. Whatever you're comfortable with. What's all that, old Colgan? All right.
And now let's...
Now are we ready to do the top 10?
Okay.
Because now my battery's about to run out soon.
Also, yeah, our call's about to end here in like two minutes.
Oh, yeah.
We'll have to call back.
Let's talk about this top 10.
No, no, no.
We should call back.
We have a lot to talk about.
We'll get it done in this one minute.
I can do it.
Nice.
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So So Guys, we fucked up the list.
We got to redo it all.
Yeah, it sucks.
And then we could just edit the numbers to the new numbers in the episode.
Wow, are the numbers screwed up?
All right, a top 10.
What is a top 10?
The best of the best.
What cream of top 10? The best of the best. The cream of the crop.
What is a top 10?
What does a top 10 need?
Because from everything that we've done so far up to this point
has all kind of been like, I'm just going to be nasty.
It's all been foreplay.
The top 10 is really all that counts.
You like to take it slow.
Think about baseball.
What do we need?
We're going to need a few weird ones.
Oh, Mike.
What?
We got you covered.
Oh.
We're going to need something that gets us clout do we have enough
do we have enough shit on here that is going to get us like a possible retweet by somebody
oh oh michael yeah do we ever yeah we're gonna get retweets from around the world. Okay. Does a retweet from me count as one that's important?
It does not.
Are you Twitter blue?
Oh, no.
So if we have done everything we needed to do,
if we have sprinkled some jazz,
if we have put in a few harsh noise,
if we put in one thing where people are like,
oh, shit, they listen to that?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wait, they listen to that? we oh yeah oh whoa wait they listen to that
yeah there's something highly academic on the list i thought yeah yeah yeah like
or culture very cultural very cultural oh yeah i think 2014 you had um angel olsen's burn no fire
for your witness yeah and we basically have the 2022 version of that on this list good i need that because i need like i need like you
know like um i need like eternal shit stain and keith ford to whitman both looking at this list
going oh i listen to that so if if we feel confident that we have done that and we, and we can go into the top 10 with the confidence of a list.
It's,
it's strong.
What's in the top 10.
Like what's,
let's not give the whole thing away.
People got to scroll down.
They got to look below it.
But one thing I want to point,
I,
there's one I want to point out and it's one I want to point out. And it's that Water Levels compilation on Kudagy Records.
Fucking killer label.
Where did that tape come from?
That label is a killer label, and it's a quiet one.
Nobody ever talks about it.
No, no one is ever talking about them.
You're absolutely right.
They are the best label in LA right now, if I'm being honest.
And there's some sort of like pact with like
Hasu Mountain featured on Bandcamp Daily.
And it's like, yeah, we know.
Would you say Kudigi is better than Doomtrip?
As far as LA labels go.
I would say sitting in a puddle and getting my little butt wet
is better than Doomtrip.
A lot of why
I really give props to Kodigi and bring it up
is that they are just
doing great psychedelia and they aren't
pulling any dumb online bullshit.
They just straight up are like, okay,
here's international psychedelia and
I'm honestly shocked because they
do great reissue tapes that I always get
months late and I really fuck with.
They do tapes that are pretty indie-leaning that but anybody could enjoy and they do shit like water levels that
just knocks you out of the park and i don't recognize any of the artists on this comp
it is one of my it is one of my favorite tapes of the year yeah yeah i really enjoy it and it's
got a little weird caterpillar type looking fuzzy thing on the cover that's almost scary i like that jamie is there anything in the top 10 that you want to call out
maybe play we have played it before am i allowed to bring it up yeah okay to bring it up actually
yeah i will uh actually joe b is he allowed to bring it up i think so this um this bardo total
tape on never anything is pretty exceptional it's just It's just a lot of different flavors on it,
and you could tell a lot of work was put into it.
Very good tape.
Strawberry, mint.
Bardo does a fuck ton of tapes.
Chocolate.
There's a ton of Bardo Total.
Salt.
There's a great full-spectrum release that kind of went over my head,
but this is actually more in my lane.
I got to agree with Jamie.
Never Anything is another quiet one.
They don't ever fuck up they
never deliver on the promise they're like michael bloomberg they get the job done never anything is
like the kid that could do a kickflip in eighth grade and doesn't even talk about it
it doesn't even talk about it i'm just constantly trying to do the ollie up on the curb and i keep
falling and he just comes and does a kickflip
and just goes away somewhere.
Yeah, never anything.
Did we play that part of Total Tape already?
We played it a few episodes ago.
Worth playing again.
I mean, God, I could ramble about many of these
on that top ten, but
which flavor do you want?
Spicy.
Okay. What kind of country spice? Well, what do you think? Spicy. Spicy. Okay.
What kind of country spice?
Well, what do you think?
Tex-Mex?
What do you think sums up 2022?
Well.
That's the year, by the way.
Yeah.
I mean, too.
For me, it's the Wednesday.
I think Wednesday's covers cassette that they did a second run of,
thank God, and they appear to do nothing else of, they're going to go to a major indie.
And these, like, nine covers that they put together really represent some shit that's going on in indie rock that I think just excites me and wows me.
And Arendelle Tapes, super lucky to have got this band for three cassettes that are all really good.
So we're kind of getting on the ground floor this just okay this is like buying tesla stock when it's
really low this can't go wrong is that i i called it bar rock i mean there there's country gays
there's a bunch of other words you can play out but this is like a new kind of bar rock for people
my age that want to hear and see something different that's got a new energy
total recontextualization fucked with it but to me um fuck me i'll go i'll go for this because i
think i'll probably say more about the soon it came in a little review there um it's fantasma
de do cerrado super i couldn't believe mike that you got sent the municipal k7 tape what this label is doing right now with only about four
or six releases under their belt is fucking insane and this came out of nowhere a couple
blogs picked up on this tape and we're like yeah this is one of the best of the year and i'm not
just seeing this one on a lot of lists though but it's a sonic roadmap a bunch of field recordings
a bunch of psychedelia and it just is some of the most
pleasant listening i've heard but also it's it's got a political curve to it it's got not on this
show more january 6th stuff no no this is a anti-january 6th this She's crazy.
I want to talk about... I know
I said, Maddie, that this was your list
this year. I said
this is your baby, take it and run.
I want to talk about
number one.
This is a big point.
I don't know if I wanted to stay.
You making another alteration?
I think we might need to make a change here.
Michael.
I know.
I know.
Well, do you want to say what the top two are?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
The second tape is my tape of the year my album of the year
la roche's lia lia which came out three weeks into the year and by then is fucking done we
could have just hung up everything yeah gina g tapes is continuing to slap kudos to them for
getting american distribution so that i can listen to music from the african continent a little bit
easier and immediately
i'd fucking heard everything i wanted sounded like a logical endpoint of what nazar's music
was doing on hyperdub but cross with basically an n64 any speed play run from hell and then number
one and insane and then number one is what yeah i gave it up to the boys. Mothcock. Yeah. The cock boys.
The Whipstream
and other, what is it, other earthly
delights? Yep. It's a
triple tape, right?
On Hasu Mountain, which
give it up. You gotta give it up.
And I think it's like 3C90s also.
Is that right? Long.
3C70s. 70s. Still pretty long.
I use this tape to stimulate myself into having an erection.
It's long and strong.
Here's my thing.
I have two points of contention with this.
One.
Was Hasu Mountain, was there a Hasu Mountain tape that was number one last year?
What was number one last year?
Fire Tools.
It was Fire Tools.
Was that on Hasu Mountain?
Yeah.
That was.
Okay. Fire Tools. Was that on Hasu Mountain? That was. I don't know if we need to inflate their heads
any more than they already are.
I'm not inflating their heads.
These two potheads
running this goddamn label.
At some point, people are going to think
we're in cahoots.
Here's my second thing.
We're not. They don't send me promos.
Please.
Here's my other
more valid point i feel like a triple cassette from mothcock is a thirst trap
it's like obviously you're this is going to be the tape of the year it's a fucking triple c90
70 70 triple c70 it's almost a triple c69 that's funny it's three tapes it comes in a big
box it's cool artwork oh maybe that's why it's good yeah and it's for hasu mountain's 10 year
anniversary yeah i know but it's like there's just i feel like obvious i feel like we switched
the laroche and the Mothcock.
We switch and we make Mothcock number two.
We make that LaRoche tape on Nike Nike number one.
I think we have a vote of no confidence in the list.
We hold a vote of no confidence in the list right now.
Do we keep it like it is, or do we switch those two?
I say we switch them.
One vote for switch.
I'll go wherever you go, Jamie.
I haven't heard the LaRoche tape.
I'm sorry. You guys are a voting bloc?
You gotta hear it.
You guys are a voting bloc?
No, we're making a deal.
Oh, this is quid pro quo.
Okay, so what are you saying, Jamie?
I haven't heard it yet.
I mean, the Mothcock tape I have heard, it was pretty next level.
I take your word because Nyege Nyege Tapes has been putting out some bangers.
Keep in mind, at the end of this, we might have to wait for some mail-in votes to come in.
Oh, that, see.
I will say, so I wrote little blurbs for both of them.
Yeah.
And honestly, either could go at number one based on the blurb.
Should they share number one?
Do we have two number ones this year?
And then we could put Doom Mix number six at number two.
Doom Mix one is knocking on the lips.
We're getting rid of the Doom Mix one,
and we're misspelling it on the other one.
My favorite thing of 2022 is probably the Sleepy Time Bear thing.
Who is that?
Is Ryan Miss Duller still here?
Yeah.
He's talking about the Sleepy Time Bear meme.
Oh, my.
Would you please kick him out of this, please?
He's got to go anyway, so it's like, you can't fire me because I quit.
Okay, what are we doing?
I haven't heard LaRoche or Mothcock.
I like Nike tapes.
I have Sounds of Siso on vinyl.
Ooh, great one.
He's really good.
But I'll leave that up to you,
and I'm going to say goodbye,
and thank you for having me.
Thanks for coming.
Thanks for helping.
Thank you, Ryan.
Bye, guys.
Whichever one you hear
at the end of this episode is number one.
We'll decide after this.
All right, is that fair? I can't decide it right now. I will abide by the'll decide after this. All right, is that fair?
I can't decide it right now.
I will abide by the results of this poll.
All right, Joby's leaving.
You can't take it either.
Bye.
You can't take it.
All right.
All right, everyone.
Thank you so much for 2022.
We got a whole pile of tapes here.
We haven't opened up any tapes in so long.
We're so bad.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my God.
Just send them to Maddie.
Oh, my God. You've been sending so many tapes.
Send them to me and let me do a quick little tape
quarantine and we'll get through some
fast here in January.
We're going to get through 2023.
It's going to be the biggest beautiful year for tapes.
Ooh, the year of Jordan.
The 23. That's right.
Oh my god.
I'm so excited about this list this Maddie how will you promise how many how many clicks will
you promise me for this list we're looking at over 69,420 because we're gonna just just from
the Wednesday retweets alone the Wednesday retweets those guys are looking at that and
they're like wow a tape blog that we didn't even retweet the review of the first time.
Oh, shit.
Not passive aggressive at all.
Also on the list is the other tape in the Wednesday universe, Boat Songs, which should not be slept on in any capacity.
That is one of the funniest fucking albums of the year.
And guess who shows up in it?
Jordan.
Michael?
Yes. First song is called hangover
game and it does talk about Michael
Jordan I like it
oh wow
and now
we can take all of the tapes from
2022 put them all in
the garbage cans and the toilets
and we can get rid of them we can never
talk about them or play them
or worry about them ever again and tomorrow we start the 2023 list Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to go. I love you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm in the bathroom.
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