Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #189 | 5.30.23
Episode Date: May 30, 2023Kouns & Weaver, Mid Air!, Acid Mothers Temple, Charles Barabé, Luurel Varas, Pumpkin Witch, Another Dark December, Alex Jacobsen, Wide Color, Mallwalker, and a visit from Liz and Dwight from Crash Sy...mbols
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Getting pumped for the football game.
Tabs out.
Cassette Podcast, episode 189.
Sega.
I wanted to start off today's...
I'm Mike, by the way.
Oh.
I wanted to start off... You're Mike'm Mike, by the way. Oh. I wanted to start off...
You're Mike?
You're Mike?
I'm on Mike.
I thought you guys were going to say your names after I did mine.
No, I decided not to.
Very professionally, I was doing it, and then...
I'm Jamie.
I'm Jamie.
I'm Joe.
I wanted to start off episode 189 with a game.
Oh, I like games.
I know.
I wanted to play a game with my friends.
I would like to play a game. Would you like to play I know. I wanted to play a game with my friends. I would like to play a game.
Would you like to play a game?
I wanted to play a game with my friends.
Like a resource management game,
a legacy game,
Tower Defense.
What are we talking here?
Deck building?
Classic role playing? I didn't bring my dice.
We can use a dice roller.
I cannot tell. It's confidential.
It's a confidential game?
I wanted to play a discogs-based game where...
Oh, Jamie's going to be too good at it.
I know. I saw Jamie the other night.
It was actually last night.
I saw Jamie, and the first thing I heard him say
the whole night, we were in a public setting,
like a social setting.
Wait, where were you?
This was a private event.
It was at a noise show.
Last night? Two nights ago. Two nights ago. I'm sorry night two nights ago two nights ago all right all right all right all right my mind and my body are going north and south all right so you're at a social event a private social event
and uh the first thing i heard him say was say was requesting somebody can you go to discogs.com
real quick what the fuck is this pervert like he can his he can't you know you can't yeah he just can't stop
himself in his butt there was there was appropriate context to that whatever right well it's um all
right what's the game the game that i wanted to do i wanted to have a thing where are we doing it
or you just want to talk about doing it i wanted to like be able to go to the discogs.com website
and like maybe get like a tape we were
playing or something and like maybe find people who own the tape who have it or something and
then I'll ask you guys like all right like who they said like which one of these two people who
has like the higher discogs like score like feedback but like as I'm like looking I was
like yeah this is gonna be a fun game i'll play this
game with my friends and they'll be like my good game man we should get together like off podcast
and just play this game and just play this game just friends right um but then um
but i'm looking on discogs and every one of these like noise necks who like buy these tapes all have just 100 rating it's all just like
it's all quid pro quo it's all nepotism it's all just like oh like i got the tape in the mail the
j card is excellent we'll buy again no no criticisms ever it's disgusting it makes me
sick makes me sick to my stomach so we're not so cool game yeah
so you ruined my fucking game and now we have no now all we are excited for a game i know i was
now all we have to do is play the tapes so i guess we could just do that we don't even get the i got
we could try we can go to discogs now i don't want to play this game it doesn't really sound
that fun well it sounds fun to me well i know you want to go you want to play it regardless of i'm already logged in yeah i'm already logged in well just play just
somebody pick a tape then all right jamie you pick a tape you can go first okay since you would
have won the game yeah okay uh got some uh ohio love here uh coons and weaver coons and weaver
both of them on one both of them from From Unifactor. That label your mom runs.
Cleveland, Ohio label. Coons and Weaver. Columbus.
Columbus, Ohio.
I've been to both cities.
No, you haven't.
You've been nowhere.
What do we got here?
What is this? The newest Unifactor
batch? I see they just dropped something. Or did this come
out? It's not on Discogs yet. i think it's pretty new see here he goes again
we got a couple wavy lines oh well actually you're just on discogs and it's not i can't
believe you didn't put it on there i haven't gotten to it it's in my queue it's in my queue
so who what if they don't want you to put it on yet? Nobody's ever told me not to. Oh, okay.
You have never gotten a cease and desist.
A label, an artist has never... Has anyone gotten in touch with you and said you fucked up?
Yeah, actually.
I knew it.
There's a couple people that have said don't use my real name.
And so I graciously changed their name to a pseudonym for that.
And who was it?
Who said, what tape was it and what is their name?
It's Robbie. I cannot tell you it's confident local robbie okay he didn't want like his school
to find out that makes sense yeah yeah that makes sense okay well i'll tell them what do they what
do they think either anyways no one's googling you know what shitty bands are in yeah so this
is rick weaver rick weaver richard weaver you could i just realized
right now you could call him dick weaver no you could you could you could do you want to do it
okay all right oh he said yeah jamie you do it okay i mean uh dick we
i don't know you got too excited. You got too excited. Never mind. Never mind. What's the other person's name?
First name?
Zach.
Zach Coons, yes.
Bit of a jazz nut, I believe.
Oh, a jazz nut.
Right?
I like jazz.
A little on the wacky side.
Oh, wacky stuff.
Oh, I love wacky stuff.
Hell yeah.
Not like this, though.
You know what kind of instrument this is?
I like Tom Morello.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The first time I heard this, I thought it was a turntable.
This is a guitar.
It's a guitar.
They don't teach you this
at private guitar lessons.
Oh, no.
You gotta learn this
on the streets.
Wait, what are all of these
names listed inside here?
I think those are
additional players, maybe.
There's a lot.
Here, do you want to read
all these additional players?
There's a lot of people in there.
That's really small.
You're being very rude
by not naming all these players.
God, give people their credit.
Well, he doesn't want to use their real names.
Wow.
So these, I guess, are the track titles.
The first track is called Lycos.
Remember Lycos.com?
It's an old search engine.
Read the names on the J card.
These are last names.
Stone, Coons, and Weaver.
The second track,
Crival, Coons, and Weaver.
The third track, Fire Tools, Coons, and Weaver the third track fire tools coons and weaver
vocals by fire tools on the top on the very top of the j card it says coons and weaver
is and it lists a whole bunch of names haven't haven't been stone this is not hard at least
crevel fire tools zach coons rick weaver morgan garrett caleb miller jeremy harris
nadeja and then lyrics by Zach Coons.
Arrangements by Rick Weaver.
Unless otherwise noted.
Jamie, please.
Very good.
Unifactor number 56.
Nice.
What else came out in the batch?
You know what?
You don't know.
You don't know.
Joe B., what do you got?
Their band camp is empty.
Empty?
It's empty.
Oh, it's a ghost town.
Hold on.
Let me.
Oh, what happened?
What happened here?
When I go to unifactorbandcamp.com, it's only B-Mask.
That's the only artist up there.
Fuck B-Mask.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on.
We got a beef.
You got to go to the...
I'm just joking.
Who the hell is that?
You got to go to the slash music, I guess.
If you just go to the default page, it takes you to the artist page, and they only have one artist.
Alright.
April.
That's not it.
Coons and Weaver.
This one came out in...
Joe, we just start going.
In...
I'm getting ready.
April.
This came...
This is an old...
Okay, so.
I'll tell you the batch.
Hold on.
I gotta make sure.
I gotta check one more.
Eventually, he's gonna tell us the batch.
There's at least four tapes in the batch.
I'm backing up one more.
Do you think they did five tapes in a batch?
No, they always do three.
Four.
It's all.
Four.
Four.
Christopher Brown.
Three.
Telepathic Daydream.
Tufak.
I loathe the secular world.
Koons and Weaver.
Children of Symeria.
And B-Mask.
For Psy is not too large or infinity too long.
A new B-Mask tape. A new B-Mask tape for Psy is not too large or Infinity too long. A new B-Mask tape?
A new B-Mask tape.
Very interesting stuff.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
And you're going to play the Coons and...
Yeah, I'm going to play the Coons and Weaver tape.
I'm still bent out of shape about that Dick Weaver thing I thought about earlier.
Oh, man.
All right.
Joby, what do you got?
Don't tell me you got more of this dungeon synth oh i do but
i don't know if i'm gonna go right i mean to talk to you about this why because i know what you're
doing i know your angle uh-huh your angle is like oh these dungeons labels are gonna start sending
us free yeah sending us free stuff i got bad news for you they don't know they're not no they're not
i have a feeling that they are all they're younger people in their 20s, and we are, and I hate to say
it.
In my mid-40s?
Old men.
Yeah.
And they're not-
I'm not actually in my mid-40s.
No.
Well, by the time this episode comes out, it takes me a bit to-
My early 40s.
Yeah, but it takes me a bit to edit these.
Early to mid.
So you're going to be-
Mid's 45, right?
Just right in the middle.
44, I'm still in my early.
Right? No. No. Well no i'm 43 got you is that a funny number it's pretty funny is dave doyen in his 40s yet oh i don't know i
think he's 27 hmm what do you play are you playing some of these dungeons i don't know yet i got a
bunch i brought a bunch of tapes i haven't decided don't look i wanted to pick jesus christ oh you're
gonna pick no i think i'll start with uh and i know we play a lot from this person but i don't care
um a mid-air tape oh you love mid-air i like mid-air because that 100 bootleg it's 100 bootleg
because i didn't know what it was at all at first because it comes in this little like
yeah i hear it more than i see it plastic yeah like i think it's like too crinkly i think it's
the kind of thing
like a like that you see like if you had leftovers and you you would seal you know what i mean like
it's like saran wrap like saran wrap yeah yeah it's got a bunch of little stuff inside it's like
old shrink wrap we got some stickers is there any uh bubble gum wrappers here jamie scan that
that's a qr code i know what it is. This is for the listeners, Jamie.
We don't have video yet.
Oh, I dropped a whole bunch of stickers.
This label, it's always, it's got the vibe.
Please, Jamie, do this on your own time.
It's got the vibe of an illuminated path.
Here, you scan that.
If anyone knows that label of, and then i'm taking it out of the plastic
wrap but it's just the link tree it's the link tree but it's not just the link tree look all
the stuff on the link tree jamie there's a lot there's a lot of stuff jamie goes out into nature
what is on that one oh yeah jamie that's what i'm talking about jamie goes out into nature
hand me your phone he goes out into nature oh it's just trees there's a tree it's just water
and it's like jamie i took
jamie one time to yosemite yellow spring park jamie that tree's 10 000 years old i took him
to yosemite jellystone park jellystone park and i showed him the world's oldest volcano and he said
oh what's his big deal what's his oh he's sitting there piddling at his pecker oh whoa whoa whoa
but it also came with a little note for us so that's why i
figured i'd play this tabs out thank you why does this have tabs out on the screen that's the link
tree it's just a link to thank you for the words a review that we did pal oh very cool thank you
for the kind words pal i think that's a threat what your pal jamie you're reading it wrong
well anyway don't tell me who my pals are this label the 100 bootleg cassette tape company
that's run by midair uh you know it's all the tapes it's very um it's very confusing whether
the the little slips of paper and different things that come with it are part of the release or trash that accidentally
made their way in with it that is interesting um yeah it's a discogs dilemma too god there he goes
what i like on the link tree too jamie is the download card code part of the release i don't
know people are going to send you death threats eventually the first thing on the link tree is a
friends and family playlist that takes you to spotify I think it's a special playlist for friends and family.
Okay.
We're friends.
We're pals.
We're pals.
We're pals.
I had a separate note that he called me a friend.
But then I haven't even opened the tape yet.
Look how it's packaged.
Remember when you go to Burt's and get a blank C90 to make a mixtape?
Oh, shit.
And yeah, he like re-shrink wrapped it in like japanese yeah is this
like original packaging from an actual cassette or did he re-imagine it i don't know no this looks
original because it's all like torn up in here burt did that open this up burt's was a record
store jamie i know every you don't know there was one on 202 there was one on oh you only went to
that i met burt one time joe is using this as a way of saying your local record store and
you would go there and you buy a tape oh open it up a lot of plastic oh this was just clear
plastic I see what he did okay then he reused that a lot of trash in there a lot more trash
seven out of twenty fucked up fish new one from midair i'm more of a fan of real big fish
100 bootleg 2023 this is a fresh john hell yeah is there imprinting on this shell or is it just
like a it literally is a sony a japanese sony 120 minute tape oh hell yeah they do a lot of that
with these with on this label is just's just like the, you know...
With a sticker on it. The standard...
He goes out and he buys the six pack.
Yeah. He goes to his store and he's like... He might have got
20 of these. Give me another sixer.
Give me another sixer.
And he goes home and he dubs them. Yeah, those old
Mac cells are starting to become not cheap.
Oh, yeah? I think.
Tell me you
saw that on the disguised message board and i'll
i'll fucking tie you up and dump you at the train tracks i'm in this like facebook group for uh
boomers that are like cassette audiophiles and they like they get real big into this stuff
all right and then i'm gonna play uh I'm gonna finish up the block with this, um,
get a load of this one.
Put my glasses on. Asset Mother's
Temple, ST-37 Split.
Ooh, a cassette. Yeah, split
cassette. I saw Asset Mother's Temple the other
night in Wilmington, Delaware
at a very, a tiny show,
a little bar. They're on tour.
They might still be on tour.
It was, uh, they played in delaware
a few years ago and it's one of those moments where you're there jamie i was at neither oh
dave doyen didn't invite us to the first one and the second one i had to go to a wedding not us i
was at the first one yeah it was one if you let me finish it's one of those moments when you really
find out who your friends are and aren't because Because when As a Mother's Temple plays about 10 blocks from your house and no one tells you.
And you sit at home.
I think I texted you.
No.
Are you coming?
If you just texted me, are you coming and nothing else.
That's not enough.
So I missed them.
But I did find out about this one.
And it was a hell of a gig.
I picked up this tape.
It was a little confusing because, like, there's...
I think they also did another split a few years ago,
and this one, there's not too much online presence for it,
so I couldn't tell if it was, like, a reissue.
I don't think it is.
I think it's a new tape that they made for tour.
I love the cover art.
Joby, if you can find out who drew that,
it's Ayana Sphere.
That's who drew these clouds on there.
Don't let Jamie get along with those clouds, by the way.
Yeah, the cover art by Ayana Sphere.
It's beautiful.
But yeah, both groups.
I think ST37 is...
Are they from Texas?
They might be from Texas.
I'll look it up while we play.
I like that the first track on the Aspen Oaks Temple side is nine seconds long. Then the second track is 28 minutes long. I'm look it up while we play. I like that the first track on the Ask Mother's Temple side is nine seconds long.
And the second track is 28 minutes long.
I'm gonna play the nine second track. Yeah, just play the first one.
Nah, there's a five minute jammer
on there. Yeah, that's the third track.
How many times have you seen Ask Mother's Temple?
Just the one. Jeff, that was it. That was it?
I saw it only once also. Twice, baby.
Twice? Okay, look at you. I win.
My guy playing the synthesizer.
He had a can of WD-40.
Okay, I heard about that.
He was greasing those knobs.
He likes them real loose.
There must be...
He's got some scratchy pots.
There must be like a release valve on the bottom.
He unscrews it every night.
It's like changing your oil.
And it just drains.
It just...
Or he takes it...
Do you think he takes it...
Is it WD-40 or is it a contact cleaner a contact cleaner it was wd-40 yeah i'm
not sure you're supposed to use that on electronics i don't believe you are i don't know either way i
did i was the whole time because i was really feeling every time he used it it sent a little
chill up my spine and i was thinking when this is all over i'm gonna ask if i can put a tabs out
sticker on that can of wd-40 and i didn't have the nerve to ask so i
just put it on the sticker without asking oh you just did it i just did it but do you think he
brings this synth to like a jiffy lube every night and they put it up on the lift they bring it up
yeah only certain cities don't know how to do that at jiffy yeah not a jiffy lube
there's a drain it yeah yeah but i'm gonna play there's a five minute cut on there play that jam
um but yeah thanks thanks i forget who told me that they were playing this time but thank you
to my real friends and uh i wish nothing but uh pain to all my haters and everyone this this is
on i believe blue circle and sounds from Sounds from the Pocket are the labels.
As at Mother's Temple from Japan.
All right, we ready to...
Wait on you.
Let's do it.
Sister is lost.
Sister is lost.
Sister is lost. far as swallowing that stinger's far, I see far
Oh north with the wind torn, with the warmth of a teammate North to Maine Her body decayed, her body decayed, her body decayed
Search for her, search for her, search for her, search for her And you find migrating birds
To those, to those
And I am in torment Dying in the late, late torment
Sister waits in the clearing
With plague and fapine
For the dark red harvest moon of God's love You can do it You can do it You can do it
You can do it
You can do it
You can do it
You can do it
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You can do it
You can do it You can do it You can do it You can do it You can do it A kid in a hard way of seeing it
The fire's meant to pull funds from their government
A child who died
Is lying on the ground So slow
And wild animals
are just savoring somebody
in a frenzy! I'm not sure if I can do it. Sister waits in the clearing with plague infamy
From the dark red harvest moon of cosmos
To ravage a fleshless or rabid animal
And annihilate the world of man and science
A procedure of being a reptile
Armed by unseedings
Spires meant to pull suns from their orbit
A child who died is lying on the cold stone floor And wild animals are devouring the body of the frenzied Thank you. I'm out. so
so so
so so Thank you. Thank you. so so so Thank you. so Thank you. so so Oh, my God. Woo! me
um Thank you. I'm not sure. And you are Lying in the back of a bear
He kicked the shit out of the old
Lying in the back of the bear
He kicked all his pals
A whoop-up in A wolf got in the...
The dead are in the days
Look out the road
The poker is a play
Balls in the sunshine
The children disobey
Brain and the ladies
They're stroking into the shore
Get up the car
Get back up the horse
Off the car, back up the horse
Take a little walk on the green
Small land on the street
No walking, hear no water
Watch your feet
Me, me
I'm on a party
She bought a party, party
The party, party of the poor dream
Shoot Other fantasy I'm the pot dream Shoot
I'm the fantasy
The shoot
I'm the fantasy
In the factory
Nobody gonna take my car Nobody gonna take my car
Gonna race it to the ground
Head in my same way
Gonna make it in the corner
When I was seventeen I'm rolling in the rocket, not something
low-star A boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, a boy, In your heart
All the hoolskins got you
A-bump-bump-bump-bump-bump-bump The people bump-bump-bump
Drink up, run, town, leave, come Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! coons and weaver and a bunch of buddies children and we'll send that tape
children of what Samaria area where is it up children of children of Samaria on
unifactor midair fucked up fish a little fuck me a fish 100% bootleg cassette
tape company and then that ass at mother's Temple. Split with ST-37.
Blue circle.
Sounds from the park.
Oh, scary.
You know the scare me row.
I'm doing it.
You know, I was thinking more about my Discogs game.
Oh, good.
And I did find someone with a pretty bad rating on Discogs.
83.3.
So what's the game again?
I forget.
I kind of forget now.
So you found people with bad things. Jamie. What do we do game again? I forget. I kind of forget now. So you found people with bad
things. Jamie. What do we do?
We just laugh. He got about it.
No, it was kind of, I think it was
let our friends in. We had
guests. Yeah, this game's dumb. We had guests.
Are they
in the room? Are they here with us
now? Hello, computer. Hello, computer.
Jamie,
I think we're, are we there're are we there they're there jamie
are they there yeah jamie you have one job to do our friends here yeah jamie i invited friends to
my house are they here they're here can you hear them liz and dwight from crash symbols are you
here with us today maybe so i think so i hear you hello thank you for joining us thanks for
showing up thanks for showing up for the first time ever after being invited two times can you see us we can't see you hi so what happened last
time do you want do you want do you need some room to apologize for not showing up last time
i don't actually remember what happened liz can you help me out here i don't really remember
it's gone it's gone that's fine why don't you tell us a little bit what label do you guys run
it's pronounced crash symbols okay and i got it right yeah me too and how long were you both
running this label for before you realized that you were like whoops we spelled it wrong i don't know the magnitude of it quickly dawned on us we but we we like charge forward nice and
oh it's something we have to spell out to everyone every time yeah are you just walking around
you're walking around like morgantown west are you still in morgantown west virginia
i think so you think so are you sheets are you just walking around like going into the sheets
like no it's symbols like with yeah and then we leave that sheets and go into other sheets
yeah just on the crash symbols sheets tour during covid they just built tunnels between all of them
oh wow oh that's not actually that's
not a bad idea are you really thinking about something right now that's not a bad idea
what about what about kids doing graffiti down there i think it's fine if kids do graffiti in
the sheets tunnels okay you mean public art i think that's fine oh now we're spelling this wrong i think we have a problem here
how long have you been doing the label for i've um i'm jamie do you want to guess
because you were surprised earlier you looked up on discogs you were like i didn't realize they had
x amount of yeah the discography is vast.
I think he started in 2011.
No, I'm going to say 2009.
No, 2011, I'm going to say.
Let me check the record.
Final answer?
2010.
2010.
2010?
Oh, so I should have went...
I'm going back to 2009, so i'm right okay but you're not
right it's 2010 that's fine and you're both putting out like you're on like a pretty insane
schedule you're like putting out like a release like every month aren't you yeah it's somehow
what's with it ends up going that way.
What's with that?
I don't know.
It's the most astrological aspect of the label.
There are categories that seem to feed into determining when a thing happens,
but then, I don't know, maybe we just align with everybody and we have the same foibles and all of our schedules collapse and open up at the same times because things,
things seem to be delayed in just the right way to create like really like
right now, especially it's very thick.
We have another thing coming out next week or another pre-order going up next
week.
We have a bunch of stuff going to you
guys that would have
maybe been with you in time for this.
I love when you send stuff.
Liz, thank you. You draw the little pictures on the
envelopes.
You made
our dragon logo.
The dragon logo, yeah. Is that updated yet?
Jamie cannot figure out how to
make it like propagate to the pop to the all the podcast aggregation sites yeah yeah so we figured
we'd have you on do you know how to do it yeah can you figure that out for us we really appreciate it
you kind of started it you can you finish it can you get your job like we kind of asked you to draw
the dragon for us and you did but that can you make it work i've been dragging it out oh my god
so you said you're putting up a pre-order soon what is the next thing on crash symbols it's uh it's our lovely friend mark dinardo his um uh proper appellation is m mdn no periods
is this someone you worked with before no this is a new a new person old friend uh he's based
in brooklyn okay have you heard of it i have not. That's one thing about Crash Symbols is like it is always a
surprise when you send
and you're so kind. You've been so kind to send
us stuff throughout the years.
Oh, we love you guys.
We're fans.
Well, go on.
We don't
just listen for no reason.
It's very weird that you would like a fan
would like not show up to that last interview.
It's because of Liz.
She probably had another concurrent thing or something.
Oh, no, it was.
No, no.
You asked after we got our after our car was totally.
Oh, my God. your car got towed?
What happened? Did like a mothman step on it? You have mothman in West Virginia, right?
I thought that was in Virginia. That's West Virginia
is the mothman, right? The prophecy?
He's ours. I don't know.
Is the mothman prophecy the same as
the mothman? That's a movie.
That's the guy. That's him.
What happened to your car?
Oh my god too much
the tire exploded
and
sounded like a beer can getting flashed
okay
so it added up to total
that's awful but everyone's safe
yeah thank god
oh good and it didn't delay this
interview
yeah I don't good and it didn't delay this interview yeah that's true yeah i don't think
technically it did i don't think that was was the reason it didn't happen that's well that's all
that matters that's all that matters um who wants how well do you do you guys i noticed you had when
we asked how long the label had been going on for dwight you had to like look it up how well
do you think you know
Crash Symbols like if we gave
you a little
like if we gave you a pop quiz
hot shot
I don't know it depends
on I guess it depends on how
specific the question was you could
you can get pretty specific if you're trying
to like play Battleship on the band camp like find something do you want me to just
get into it mike yeah yeah let's get into it i think we like games here we like games i tried
to do a game earlier and it kind of i kind of failed oh i didn't know we had game music so
jamie's got a game for you and you guys just gonna just jump in with the answers when you can once there was this kid who had a song called foam in 2022
we should say that it was the name of the game
i don't know it's you didn't put it in there crash test symbols crash
test symbols this name of this fun game that we're playing is called crash test symbols
which is very funny were you able to hear the question that jamie's saying you
jamie why don't you go and sing it again turn the music down a little bit
there's there is literally one question in the song. There is literally one
question in this song for you that Jamie
will sing again.
Check, check.
A little something.
Check. Jamie, please.
I like how the
intro has to play every time.
Once
there was this kid
who had a song called Foam
In 2022
Survey says
Is it a Sam Gaskin?
No
The few words I hear I associate with that
Just say the question, Bill
The song is called foam and you put
it out in 2022 phone phone i didn't i clearly didn't hear anything if you thought that was
what's the answer what isn't the answer what's the answer jamie uh ben wheeler you had a song
called foam oh that sounds like well sea moss did a bunch of... I just told you.
2020, 2022.
I should just be looking at our...
I don't know. Ben Wheeler.
You told us it's Ben Wheeler.
Oh, my gosh.
Jamie, do another one.
Do another one of these.
No, that doesn't make sense.
Shut up and listen.
Check, check.
Once, there was this girl who had a rough patch,
which was audible in her manic energy and paranoid mood.
These guys don't know their label at all that was literally in the description
on bandcamp so you should get this
oh my god
Jamie sing it again
sing it again
Jamie stop
once Jamie, stop!
Once there was this girl
who had
a rough patch, which was
audible in her manic energy and paranoid mood.
Yeah, you nailed it that time,
Jamie.
I just want to do it like three more
times.
Do it one more time with reverb take do it one more time with reverb
do it one more time with reverb and then let them guess
I can't figure out how the reverb works
hey hey hey
hey
hey
that's not working
you broke it
hey hey wait
oh that's it yeah put room on not plate whoa You broke it. Hey. Hey, wait. Oh. I think I... Hello? Hey.
Oh, that's it.
Yeah, put room on it.
Not plate.
Whoa.
That's the leg.
Hey.
Yeah.
That's like a plate.
That's plate?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Actually, I want Paul.
Please.
All right, can we just give them the answer?
Yes.
The answer was
Mrs. Dink.
I don't think you guys are going to get any of these.
We have 20 more.
We have 20 more of these.
Do you want to finish them out?
Hey. hey then there was this boy whose second tape on your label was titled rolling through you gotta get this one you have to get one right that's julia bloop oh i don't know it says julia bloops bloop
oh my god you don't even know pronounced you suck card says moops this is so this is so
embarrassing for you guys to be such big fans of us i gotta fact check this real quick fact
check julia no it is julia bloop you wrote it wrong in the in the uh thing i fucked
it up oh my god i fucked it up oh i feel so well we'll cut all that out julia bloop julia bloop
you got one one out of three fun variation it's not that bad well you know what we're gonna play
a tape on your label how's that here's your prize here's your prize for coming on here's your prize. Here's your prize for coming on. Here's your prize. How about the riddle?
How about riddle me this?
How about for...
Oh my God, what a transition.
Speaking of riddles, riddles for a machine.
This is a brand new one on Crash Symbols.
Can you tell us a little bit about riddles for a machine?
That's our lovely friend Carl in Estonia.
We've done a few tapes with him.
That is his third.
And it's good fun.
We all worked really hard on it.
Do you want Jamie to come up with a quick Crash Test Dummies parody for it?
Here, let me hand it to him.
And go ahead and sing some.
Just start the music and go ahead and sing them one.
Beautiful.
Jamie. ahead and sing them one Jamie once there was this tape whose title was riddles for a machine it came in 2023 oh yeah That's pretty good, Jamie
Yeah, thanks
Yep
Well, Dwight and Liz
Thank you for finally coming on
Finally
Hey, if you have any extra
Of those luxury Elite tapes
From 2015
You can send a few our way
Noted
No, okay
Just no
Well, good luck
Good luck with the label
Good luck with your car
Yeah
It was nice meeting you I like this Oh my gosh This is Laurel Virus, right? Well, good luck with the label. Good luck with your car. Yeah.
It was nice meeting you.
Oh, my gosh.
This is Laurel Virus, right?
Riddles for a Machine?
Oh, that's right.
The name of the tape is Riddles for a Machine.
The name of the project is Laurel... What is it?
Laurel Virus?
Is that how you pronounce it?
Laurel Varus.
Laurel Varus.
Excuse me.
Sorry.
I apologize.
Brush up on your Estonian.
I apologize.
Maybe you showed up last episode and told me about it
I would have known for this time
maybe I'm wrong
alright well guys thanks for hanging out for a little bit
we love you guys
have a great day
bye
wands
I could have done that
I'm just getting over a cold if you can't tell
so my voice is a little bit more baritone.
He got a virus.
It's fine.
You did fine.
I'm glad we got to play a game, though, at least.
I kind of been like Jonesen to play some kind of game, but all my games are dumb.
I like the Discogs game.
You're not a game designer.
Yeah, you got to develop it.
You got to workshop it a little bit.
You brought it to the table too soon.
This person only has 18 ratings, and they have an 83.3 percent
okay so what's the game again i don't know but they'll be part of it
where's the fun come i don't know yet okay you're just finding pad finding people with
poor ratings on discogs and then we're doing something with them i don't know are we selling
them something and seeing if they give us a review? Or how fast they ship it to us?
And how the quality of the J card?
Seller never sent.
Had to contact Discogs and in negotiations with PayPal for refund.
Looks like third time this year.
Do not buy from this account.
Okay.
That's the game.
That's the game.
Okay.
We're just reading bad reviews.
I guess.
Pretty fun, I guess. I guess. I'm not able to read them because We're just reading bad reviews. I guess. Pretty fun, I guess.
I guess.
I'm not able to read them because you're just reading them to me, so I don't know how it's
a two-player game.
It seems like it's a one-player game.
Well, we're bringing your dice next time.
Oh, okay.
Bring your dice and then you can play.
All right.
All right, so I'll start off that block with that Laurel.
I already forget how-
Laurel Varus.
I wish they didn't leave.
They could have told me how to say it again.
Laurel Varus.
Riddles for a machine.
From Estonia.
From Estonia.
Mate, how does somebody from West Virginia find somebody from from estonia we'll never internet the internet okay yeah i guess that makes sense yeah well the world's just becoming
smaller smaller dude yeah you don't get it yeah no i don't believe in that kind of stuff
i think it's flat and it's getting bigger i think it's thick as hell yeah yeah it's like a thick chicago style
and stinky oh it definitely smells you've been outside lately it's stinky you know there's a
theory called the um concave hollow earth concave where people think that the world is round but
we're on the inside looking down like we're we're inside of a big ball looking inward and and the
universe is inside oh my god we're in there's a theory for
everything yeah we're inside a big ball a sphere yeah a concave hollow earth is round but instead
of us being on the outside looking out we're actually on the inside and the sun is at the
center yeah fuck man that's what pink floyd's all about yeah dude hell yeah man all right joey what
you got what do i got where's your before joke where's all about yeah dude hell yeah man all right joey what you got what do
i got where's your before joke where's your crash symbols tapes i want to pick a crash symbols tape
oh yeah oh you can do that yeah i know where they are they're right there
they're in this area that i'm pointing i'm gonna get back to form
let's start with pu are you what do you mean what does that mean back to form pumpkin witch
you're going jamie you better hurry up because you gotta get on the scary sounds real quick turn joe b's entering the dungeon baby the return of
the pumpkin witch oh no did you find the the spreadsheet it's color-coded
this is on death bomb arc made made in canada thank god yeah i see that's why the naroko case just naroko case is broken and the printing is offset a little bit
that's canadian you know they do things it's a little bit different well they like it like that
this very much has a uh scary vhs horror vibe thank you jamie oh well yeah very spooky i mean Horror vibe. Thank you, Jamie. Oh, well, yeah. Very spooky. I mean, look at the imprinting on the shell.
What is it?
It's literally made to look like a VHS tape.
Is that what's going on?
And I like how it's...
I didn't have my glasses on.
I like how the imprint is a little off.
Yeah, you like that, huh?
It has the spools of the VHS tape.
I just like them to line up with the spools of the cassette tape.
I like how it's off because it's scarier that way.
Is it scarier? Like it's melting away. I get it now. I just don't like line up with the spools of the cassette tape I like how it's off because it's scarier that way Is it scarier?
Like it's melting away I get it now
I just don't like scary stuff you know
Well then why don't you bring it up
I like to do just a little bit
Just a little bit
You know what I mean
But I don't want to listen to it
You're not actually playing it
I just want to talk about that
Is that why I'm holding it?
You want me to keep it kind of away from
You brought this for me to get rid of for you
Scary names too
Stalked through the shadowy vapor
Beat of the mummified heart You brought this for me to get ready for you? Scary names, too. Stalked through the shadowy vapor.
Beat of the mummified heart.
Wandering the moonlit manor.
Those are just a couple of scary names.
I don't worry anymore because I'm getting too scared.
You know what would make this... Actually, can we open the blinds up?
You know what would make it just a touch scarier?
What's that?
Blood?
No, that would make it too way too...
Okay, that's gore.
That's gore, all right.
Yeah, don't go...
And then you're getting into like exhumed cow decapitation, kind of like...
Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.
I'm talking about just a touch.
A touch of?
Instead of calling it Pumpkin Witch, maybe they changed their name to Jack-o'-lantern Witch.
Jack-o'-lantern.
Jack-o'-lantern Witch.
Witch.
Jack-o'-lantern Witch. It doesn't have atern witch it doesn't have a good a pumpkin's not that scary and like tell me what's
on the cover is it a pumpkin or is there a face carved into it there's a face carved into it so
that's a jack-o-lantern thank you yeah so it's not a pumpkin witch it's a jack-o-lantern witch
so it's not a pump so i found oh lantern so i found a mistake you found a mistake he's at a
carnival or something there's a carnival in the background there found a mistake you found a mistake he's at a carnival or
something there's a carnival in the background there's a ferris wheel i think he has a knife
well there's probably he's probably at like a like a fall festival a fall festival and this
is the return this is part two return of the pumpkin witch they they love them so much last
fall the return of the pumpkin you know people go out they get the kettle corn they get a hayride hayride corn maze and that's where he a boo barn they the a pumpkin which i
guess we don't have to gender them but it's a they come out in the in the in the maze i think
the jack-o'-lantern witch the jack-o'-lantern witch yes yeah well all right so that's what
i'm gonna play all right maybe they what do you think about that? They do...
There's a petting zoo.
What kind of fall festival are you going to...
Actually, no.
Maybe they have a goat.
Yeah, they definitely have goats.
At like Millbourne Orchards?
Yeah.
And they got like...
Maybe you're shooting...
A pig?
Yeah, a pig.
A big old pig.
Big old dog pig.
Big old pig.
Come here, Brutus.
Slap his butt.
Oh, I'm getting a little scared.
Yeah, this is pretty scary um i still don't think even after playing all this stuff i see you have a big ass hole dweller box
there i don't think they're going to send us any of this stuff it takes time i know
oh i like how on the back they have the little sticker. I don't think we're on their radar.
You know what I mean?
I'm trying to get on their radar.
Make inroads.
Yeah. I like how it has the sticker that says like horror, like the genre sticker, but that's
kind of peeling off, but it's like not a sticker.
It's printed on the actual.
Yeah, I see what they did there.
This is, who did the, there goes that Naroko case again.
Who did the artwork?
I don't know.
They didn't even.
There's nothing.
There's no info.
Just track titles. Hmm. I don't know they didn't there's nothing there's no info so just
track titles hmm i don't know who pumpkin witch are or jackalyn or which and while you guys were
talking about dungeon since i since i went over to the to the wall of tapes found mike's crash
symbol section and i selected a tape um i was looking actually for the decade in exile tape
from 2014 that's that's my personal favorite.
You don't have that one.
Seek that one out.
Decade in Exile.
And also the Luxury Elite tape,
which Dwight, he didn't seem to like that joke very much.
I asked him to send a tape of the Luxury Elite
because that sells for $100.
Well, I think that's why,
because he was like, come on, Jay.
Come on.
You're just going to flip it.
You're just going to flip it.
You know what we should have done. They're trying to save flip it. You're just going to flip it and like, you know.
You know what we should have done.
They're trying to save up for their retirement.
While we had them on the interview, knowing they were preoccupied with something, sent
someone to their house to-
Swatted them?
Wow.
Yeah.
To swatted them.
To steal all the-
To steal all the luxury.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, we had nothing to do with that car accident.
No, no. All right. We had nothing to do with the fucking car crash. Okay. i mean we had nothing to do with that car accident all right we had nothing to do with the fucking car crash okay nothing to do with that and we're
not going to do this but we will set up an interview next month and then jamie you want
to get down to west virginia now sort of take out across the street to what it's like morgantown
right yeah morgantown next to the sheets next to the sheets in the tunnel with the graffiti
tudor's biscuitville all right. All right, I got this,
one of my favorite artists,
Charles Barabay.
We haven't played him
in a long time.
Long time.
This is a tape from 2017.
I don't have this one yet.
This one's called
Avant Garde
a Vortan Romantic.
It's a split too
with Rat Killer.
Ooh.
Charles Barabay
and Rat Killer.
But I want to play
Charles Barabay
because I love Charles.
Very cool.
And we met Charles one time.
He played Newark, Delaware a few years ago.
Canadian artist, am I right?
French-Canadian.
Oh, Jesus Christ, I didn't know that.
Your hair was in the toilet water.
That's fine.
Go eat some poutine.
Yeah.
Freedom fries.
Freedom fries.
All right, hand it over here.
All right.
You said it's 2017?
2017.
And I don't have this one. It not in my charles barra bay collection you weren't smart enough to get it okay i missed out on it
now what color is that shell don't answer too quickly don't answer too quickly biscuit biscuit
i don't know i mean if anything it's gravy but it's not gravy. Yeah, I would say gravy. I was going to say caramel.
Caramel.
It's caramel.
This is...
You got poutine on mine.
I was actually just going to say brown.
Light brown.
Light brown?
Okay, light brown's good enough.
And then, did I pick one already?
Oh, I was going to start off with that.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
Do you want to do the pumpkin witch first?
Do whatever you want.
Let's do the pumpkin witch first.
Sandwich it or lay it on top.
Let's do the Pumpkin Witch last.
We'll do...
Oh, okay.
Let's do the Pumpkin Witch now.
No, last.
Because we just got off the phone with them.
We'll do it last.
We'll do the Charles Barabay first.
First.
Okay.
2017.
2017.
Then the...
We don't know how to say the other one because the estonian
they didn't come from 2023 they didn't come last time which and then jack laner which give me fuel
give me fire give me that give me fire give me that which i desire Thank you. I'm sorry. so Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. The I'm going to go ahead and do that. Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so I'm going to go ahead and do a little test drive. oh right in the pit
huh huh fuck you tell me fuck you tell me charles barabay motherfucker
with the 2017 giving off i would say giving off
was giving off pumpkin witch five yeah i thought that was pumpkin witch at first i've tricked joe
i pranked you man i put that in and you were like is this the pumpkin witch tape and i said yep
yep but it was charles barabay splitting with racula splitting that you at racula
on crash symbols uh from 2017, and
Laurel Varys, Riddles for a Machine,
a brand new one on Crash Symbols,
and then that pumpkin witch
who, um, Jamie, how do we go about
fixing a typo on Discogs?
Ooh, they spelled
Anonymous wrong. Or did they?
Anonymous Dungeon Synth
Project. They spelled
that wrong. But what if they're choosing to spell it that way?
Okay.
And I'm stupid.
And now I'm stupid.
You don't get the joke.
Now we're going to get in trouble.
Now I'll fix it.
Okay, let me know.
Oh, you can do that?
Yeah.
You have the code?
Joby, let me know who is the scariest member of Pumpkin Witch.
Jimmy, back me up here with some scary sounds.
There is. I thought it was anonymous here with some scary sounds. There is...
I thought it was anonymous.
But it has members.
Oh.
Okay.
Haunter of Darkened Forests.
Okay.
The Disgraced Scientist.
Oh.
The Vampire Tyrant.
Who is the scariest?
The first one.
The Haunter of darkened forest
yeah yeah yeah well this is great
scientist that's like fucking Anthony
Fauci
yeah I came up lock him up the um the
vampire tyrant that's a funny one
because it's like it's like oh do you
hear about that guy he's a vampire and
so that's not that bad no he's a vampire. And it's like, that's not that bad.
No, he's a vampire.
He's a tyrant.
He's a tyrant.
He rules.
Oh, but he's such a bad vampire.
He's a bad vampire.
And then the Haunter of the Darkened Forest.
He goes to the forest.
He's like, no, this one's too bright.
I can't haunt this one.
Yeah, there.
It's getting better now that is a um the return of the pumpkin which is a 2022 release on death bomb arc okay ready going to this last block i think i can death bomb arc put out
another pumpkin witch tape and this is the return um there is that's just called pumpkin in the frightful gaze of the pump of the pumpkin witch
that's the 2018 okay the fun you could be stabbing these with um scary sounds to me every time i say
you punch that up this is like day one shit man final strike oh of the pumpkin which so this is
the third 2019 and 2020 was a limited edition pumpkin pail box set.
Ooh.
Pumpkin pail box?
Ladies and gentlemen, the mighty, mighty boss.
Ladies and gentlemen, the mighty, mighty boss.
And then in 2022, the return of the pumpkin witch.
Oh, also in 2017, Hubble of the pumpkin witch.
Oh my gosh.
Hubble of the pumpkin witch.
But no return of the pumpkin witch. I donvel of the pumpkin witch but no return of the pumpkin which i don't
know no avail but there's no just the pumpkin witch there's okay all right here you're looking
for one that's called the pumpkin well there is no you know the return of the jedi but there's
no just like the jedi the jedi so okay yeah all right so i can open up this final block
can you i'm gonna open and close it yes please
making me and joe a sandwich oh i'm the meat welcome cheese
so i got here one call it's a long one another dark december
hmm i know jesus christ It's not that hard.
Anthropocenes, apocalypse, and other various anxieties on histamine tapes.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Doobie Brothers!
This comes in a tall plastic bag.
There's a lot going on in here.
It's a little booklet with a cassette inside. Where are you that on the shelf fine young cannibal the cassette is dubbed over an old tape of cat stevens and ccr
there's also an old floppy disk in here oh what is that three and a half
yeah no wait what is it what's the dimensions of this gentleman dimensions of this, Jamie? It's three and a half.
It's three and a half, right?
What's the other, the big one, five and a quarter?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Then there's this booklet that comes with it.
It's, I believe it's just, what is it?
Is this art, right?
That's art.
It's art?
Yeah.
Because it's just pictures?
Yeah, pictures are art.
Pictures are art.
Words are art sometimes.
Mostly pictures.
Okay.
These are mostly, there's some words.
Some black and white, but mostly color.
There's sound art too
oh we play a lot of that no i know no i'm not i'm not into that but some of the some of the words
are information in here special thanks to mel s and michelle q for their help i think that's not
art sometimes it can be but then there's pictures of just like a utilitarian text you know what's
that i don't have my glasses on it's just like a person with a machine and oh that's art yeah this ai art machine art no no no no no i think this is an
idiot made this oh an idiot like a human a human idiot white noise album cover and they were like
i'm gonna burn the front oh that's art pyrography is that and it's like this it's like sandpaper. Be careful. He doesn't like that. What are you doing to me?
Rub it off.
I tried to warn you.
Cottage cheese.
I tried to warn you.
The cover of it is like sandpaper.
You got lotion?
You want it now?
Yeah, I don't mind.
It's really bad.
I can't even hear it anymore.
I have to take my headphones off.
I thought you noticed.
I don't have my glasses on.
It just looked white paper to me.
Jamie, go to the histamine tapes band camp.
Stop touching it so much
I want it back I want to rub it a little bit
Go to their band camp there's a long thing on there
I want to look at the art but just open it up
Don't hand it to me
Hand me one of the pages
A glossy page and I'll grip that
See what I'm saying
Read there's a long thing on their band camp
Like a disclaimer about buying this tape
Oh a disclaimer?
By another dark december
mike did you see the margins the margins of the paper yeah they fucked up all right
they fucked up in the copying process yeah this page is a little bit smaller
i think that's r2 i think that's like the size of it is also art oh this is a legally
blinding contract yeah go ahead and give yourself a... By purchasing this album slash cassette,
you are signing yourself away in a legally blinding contract
where you assume any and all responsibilities.
If you gain injury, lose a limb, or have a loss of life
due to the sudden realization that this world is fucked
and the anxiety due to implications thereof,
ADD and HT and all other subsidiaries
not hereby responsible if you have an existential existential crisis over the fact that the game
has been rigged from the start and the only way to break free from the chains will be to overthrow
the techno feudalists that have killed the already flawed capitalistic society that died in 2008.
Confirmed. Confirmed.
Dead in 2020.
While also trying to simultaneously rally the working class.
While also fighting against the onslaught of digital misinformation
sewn specifically to turn us against, I'm sorry,
to turn us against each other over basic human rights
that we should have had all along.
Mike.
What?
I don't like when you bring politics into this.
I'm a little bit of a of a bernie bro yeah i'm a little bit of a bernie bro victim culture to me
so i don't know if anything is on the actual maxell floppy disk that's in here
so extra what's it saying surprisingly i do not have something to play that at home right now
no me neither let me see what it's i've gotten rid of anything that would play that i'm not
as surprised by you 1.2 i know it says actually i asked what it says and you didn't say anything
okay fair enough that's fair no that's fair no i respect you and i love you and i'm sorry good
good and i'm sorry i handed you the sandpaper yeah i should have known you didn't like it i
kind of feel like it's another dark December
and histamine tape's fault for even sending it.
I feel like they should have known you didn't want to ever touch it.
What I like about the contract thing that you just read
is it's whoever purchased it
not listening.
I didn't buy shit, pal.
I don't have to, you know.
I'm sending this away
as soon as I'm done playing it.
I'm getting rid of it. It's not going to anymore they already started burning the last guy already started the fire
they already started burning it so i'll finish it all right uh so i'm gonna start off the block
with whoever i think whoever does this project also i think it's safe to say does the label
safe to say yeah right we so. I don't have any
clues otherwise.
Do you have any reason
to disagree?
I don't have any.
I think a comms razor.
Occam's razor.
Occam's razor.
From Vermont.
Yeah.
Occam's razor.
From Vermont.
Vermont.
So that would
lead me to believe you.
So that's why I'm a Bernie bro.
That's why.
That's why I'm a Bernie bro.
All right.
Okay.
Subliminal.
Murphy's Law.
I never know Vermont and New Hampshire. You never know. I don't think anyone knows. Murphy's Law. I never know
Vermont and New Hampshire.
I don't think anyone knows which one's which.
Oh, I don't know. Which one's which?
New Hampshire has a coast. Did you know that?
What? Okay, so New Hampshire's on the right
and Vermont's on the left.
New Hampshire has a coast. Like to the ocean?
It has a coast that's like 30 minutes long. It's really
short. Okay, that's how I'll remember it.
Because there are like two pieces that are like flip.
That's where Portsmouth, New Hampshire is on the coast.
Oh, Portsmouth.
I never knew which one was which.
You know what I'm really good at?
What?
Give me a blank map and let me just...
Give me all the states like a puzzle piece and just let me cook.
Just give me that.
What's a blank map?
But can you find like Kansas?
Like an outline of the United States and give me...
But an outline of the United States but give me but but but an outline of the
united states but all like all the states the lines are drawn but none of the names of the
states are filling just let me fill in the name oh you're just filling in names and let me cook
let me cook i'll fill i'll get how many could you get i think i could get all of them i could do the
whole thing i'd have to end with like kansas and like nebraska and stuff because i always nebraska's east of kansas listen i'm in my 40s i've lived in this country my whole life
i think i could do all 50 i think contiguous and uh no i couldn't do speaking of nebraska
speaking of nebraska yeah can i go yeah good segue well i mean scott scott schultz i'm sorry
i'm burying the tape in the end of the episode where everybody's left by now.
But Scott Schultz, since April 2020, 420, this is his first batch since then.
He put out a batch of three on Timble Tapes.
You think everyone stopped listening by now?
No.
Just us.
Can I just say something real quick before you go?
Yeah.
Please listen. Please listen. Please listen to to my podcast please listen to my podcast i'm gonna play dave's tape next i
know i know it's silly i know it's silly to on the podcast that nobody's listens to to say please
listen to it but please listen to my podcast yeah and if you if you have any kind of sway
with anybody who does dungeon Dungeon Synth?
Send tapes over.
Send tapes.
Joe wants your tapes.
You've got that luxury lead tape from Crash Symbols.
Take a copy.
We all want one thing.
Yeah.
Okay, Joe wants free Dungeon Synth tapes.
Jamie wants that one luxury lead tape.
What do you want?
Because I want people to listen to my podcast. Oh, you just want people to listen to it.
Oh, okay.
Jamie heard this one tape sold for $100 one time.
It sold for $150 once.
Well, why don't you just ask for $150?
We can all ask for... Oh, you want $150? I got $150,
Jamie. That's no problem.
I got money.
We're all asking for anything we want.
I like chasing the feeling of that.
Oh, alright. I see what you're saying. I like that too.
Memorabilia. Chasing the dragon, they call it.
Please listen to my podcast.
Alright, James, go ahead.
Charles Schultz. No. That's who did Peanuts, right?
Yes.
Chuck Schultz.
Yeah.
We got a tape by Alex Jacobson here.
Nebraska person.
Alex Jacobson is a sound artist based in Omaha, Nebraska
whose audio work
focuses on the plasticity
of sound and aims to connect us with our
environments and situations that
exist outside our current
temporal, spatial experiences. See, plastic's
not good for the environment, Jamie. Yeah, that's
true. He warned us about sound art earlier.
You did say something about sound art.
These are callbacks right now. These are callbacks.
So, Nebraska callback, sound art
callback.
Take a look at the case for this one.
I think this is a Frankensteined case. I think that there's a clear front and a semi-clear back.
I see what they did.
Yeah.
It's like a milky, hazy back, and then a clear front.
I like that.
Frankenstein's not the name of the case.
It's the name of the manufacturer.
And this tape is just white.
It looks like all the rest of the Timble stuff.
Yeah.
But then that other one that we pulled out of the box was bone.
It was bone.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
We settled on bone, right?
Or taupe.
I think we did that off mic, though.
I know, but I'm not that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know that.
I didn't know.
I like that. I don't know.
I like that. So anyway, really cool.
The cover's kind of scary, but that's okay.
Wake me up!
Nice.
It's by Tiny Little Hammers.
As if Tiny Little Hammers hasn't done enough for us.
I like that.
Give someone else a chance.
Tiny Little Hammers, their artwork is always so like cosmic and uh psychedelic and
i like how on the timbal tapes it's just it's black and white yeah i like how it's black and
white it's creepy it's different you're starting to creep me out so what is his apartment 2021
commutes 2022 yeah what's that mean? No clue. No clue. Art.
So much to be interpreted. There's a lot to think about.
There's a lot to think about.
It gives you a lot.
I stay up all night thinking about it.
I like stuff that makes you think.
I stay up all night thinking about it.
Yeah.
I stay up all night thinking about it.
That's the kind of art I like.
That's the kind of art I like, too.
All right.
Well, I'm glad to see that Charles Schultz, you say his name is, does peanuts.
He's allergic to peanuts.
That's a shame.
It's Alex Jacobson.
Alex Jacobson. And he's allergic to peanuts.'s a shame there's alex jacobson alex jacobson and he's allergic to peanuts he might be a lot of people these days i saw a picture the other day and i just want to get this i just want to say it just because i'm already saying it
someone drew charlie brown naked and you could see his penis and i just thought it was inappropriate
because he's a little boy i like it no no wait no no no it's not okay i don't think they're
allergic to peanuts in nebr Allergic to penis?
Peanuts.
That's where peanuts come from, right?
Who was a peanut farmer?
Jimmy Carter.
They're far enough away from the coastal elites that the peanut allergies haven't caught up to them.
Oh, the coastal elites?
We didn't have peanut allergies as kids here.
No, no.
Nobody did.
Now everybody does.
No, everyone does.
Are you saying peanut or penis?
Peanut.
Okay. Don't get dirty at the end. and you're saying no one listens to this point they stop listening yeah because you
get nasty every time you just get filthy i don't know where your mind goes the gutter talking about
charlie brown's penis charlie brown's cartoon penis that you looked at the other day he likes
noise like where did you see this it's's on the internet. On the internet.
What website?
I thought it was
charlierumpiness.com.
I thought it was inappropriate.
But you looked at it.
I bet you screenshotted it.
It's my homepage.
It's my homepage.
Of course I'm looking at it.
I don't know how to change it.
All right, Joe.
I'm going.
I'm going to play this new tape
from two friends of the show.
One friend who used to do the show.
I guess he's not really
a friend anymore.
And then another friend of the show one friend who used to do the show i guess he's not really a friend anymore and then uh another friend of the show this is from a new batch on oxtail recordings oh you're playing both tapes no i'm just gonna play dave's tape okay yeah
the other friend i didn't get the other one okay so oh so three friends one used to be a friend
oh i get it now yeah okay well one used to be an acquaintance okay
uh i'm gonna play the wide color tape which is a new project from dave doyan who is used to be a
friend when he's not a friend of the show anymore do we want to pull up some past episodes get some
dave clips oh we can get some dave clips in post yeah jay jay pull up some no right now pull up
some best of dave yeah best of dave of Dave I like the art That's a classic Dave
I dig the art
I dig the art
I dig the art
I think that was episode one
That's episode one Dave
Yeah
He started a new project
New project
New name
Started from scratch
Sounds the same
New name
Sounds exactly the same
As all of his old stuff
He's like I'm starting over
I'm not doing
Sound Out Light anymore
I'm not doing
What was his old one Veils anymore i'm not doing uh what's
his own veils anymore that's his guitar project he's he's like i'm not doing these other two
projects that sound exactly the same i'm going to start all over with this third new project
oh surprise surprise sounds exactly the same sounds modular synthesizers exactly the same
here we go oh that sounded just like Dave.
I realized I was playing that on the wrong computer.
I'm not sure
if that'll record.
Hello, computer.
Art by Jesse Doyen.
This one's still
on media.tinymixtapes.com.
I thought you were
moving on that over.
I believe...
You know what?
Should we call Dave now?
I believe he has...
There's a story
maybe behind
this artwork.
I think there is, too.
It might have to do
with artificial
intelligence i feel like he used ai i think he did scrub ahead in the uh tab well what's his
name justin justin right there he is there's everything from that label that's me glossy
stuff yeah i was gonna say oh there we go well i'm gonna get fingerprints all over this that's
all right that's all right you That's alright I'll clean those up
Hear that in the wash
I've heard that laugh a long time
That was episode 5
Very good, classic
2012
Thirsted Moore, Drip House
Dwayne Pitchray, Forensics
Sonic
Victimization Unit
It's Joe From Tabs Out Forensics. Sonic Victimization Unit.
It's Joe.
From Tabs Out.
Tabs Out?
Yeah.
You're live.
What's up?
You're live.
We're playing your tape.
Who, me?
Yeah, who, me?
Can you talk about it?
Talk about what?
Your new tape.
We're playing it right now.
Ask him how he got the artwork.
There's something about the art.
Tell me about the art. I hear you dig it. I're playing it right now. Ask him how he got the artwork. There's something about the art. Tell me about the art.
I hear you dig it.
I dig the art, yeah.
You put the ear part to the mic, not the mouth part.
It's on speakerphone. Which part do you want me to put on to the mic?
This part? The bottom, yeah.
I'm a top man. Didn't AI make the art, Dave?
AI made the idea for the art.
What happened?
You're killing art, the arts you're killing
art
you're killing art
my goal
my musical goal
my life goal is to kill art
speak on that
kill it dead
this kind of book ends with the sound art
I think I did pretty good
if you listen to my tapes
you'll probably say I don't get art I think I did pretty good. If you listen to my tapes,
you'll probably say I don't get art.
That sounds pretty good.
All right.
Well, thanks for your time.
And then nobody will like art anymore.
Well, I dig the art, Dave.
Good job, Dave.
I like it too.
Yeah, I like it a whole lot.
And I like you, and I like Mike. Who else is there? Jamie. Jamie's here. I'm sitting here all cheap, buddy. I like it, too. Yeah, I like it a whole lot. And I like you, and I like Mike.
Who else is there?
Jamie.
Jamie's here.
I'm sitting here all cheap, buddy.
Jamie's all right.
Jamie's all right.
Sometimes.
He's got his ups and downs.
And I like Mike Nigro because he put it out for me.
He did.
Along with Max Gamble's tape.
Did you guys listen to Max's tape yet? It was really good.
I didn't get a copy of that yet.
Didn't get a copy of it.
But I think Oxtail does have U.S. distribution.
Ooh, U.S. distribution. Dave's on Spotify now.
Picture him rolling.
Yeah.
You can see my ugly mug on there.
Yeah, your little picture and everything. I screenshotted it.
Save that for later.
Save it.
I like to look at it, you know.
I can't believe I couldn't see!
What else are you guys doing today?
Yeah, what are you doing today?
What are you doing this weekend?
I'm just...
I'm planting clover in my backyard.
Oh, instead of grass?
With grass.
With grass.
Yeah, my dog's like...
I put grass down like a month ago,
and it's already like...
My dog's just pissed all over it,
and it's killing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm trying to figure that out.
I hear clover's better.
I love when people blame their dogs.
Clove is resilient.
It's resilient, yeah.
I've heard that, yeah.
I got a little bit of a green thumb myself, Dave.
If you want me to come over and till some of that.
Maybe we should play my tape back there.
I got a couple tomato plants going right now.
We can talk gardening another time.
Oh, you guys don't want to talk about gardening now?
No.
Well, I'll call you back.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Bye.
What happened was AI generated that art.
And then his wife painted it.
Then a human painted it.
Painted it.
Yeah, I see what happened there.
Whose wife? Allegedly. No, Dave's wife. Dave's wife painted it. Then a human painted it. Yeah, I see what happened there. His wife.
Allegedly.
No, Dave's wife.
Dave's wife.
Jessie Doyen.
Yeah.
And then Oxtail Records released it.
Released the art.
Along with Dave's tape.
Which is art.
Which sounds exactly like all of his old stuff.
All the other art that Dave's made.
Yeah, so like, imagine a synthesizer making ambient music yeah exactly a modular synthesis
we get it so it costs a little bit more it costs more dave has that large wingspan so he always
has the long rig oh he's got the big one yeah yeah yeah he's got you know big arms long arms
yeah he got you gotta keep it long he can't be like this like real tight jamie he's good
he actually only has three modules yeah but it's ergonomic yeah yeah well you know spread out they keep those there's modular
synth uh pirates they keep their cases kind of facing them so sometimes they'll have just like
the mixer all the way to their left yeah one like kind of like an oscillator in the middle yep and
then they'll just kind of have like a pencil sharpener all the way to the right and then
kind of just like you know sharpen a pencil make a few notes turn that turn the volume
on they're reaching and they're looking but nothing's there the middle is all just they
that's just yes packing peanuts in there yeah you ever see the drummer from battles he's got
that one symbol way up high really no yeah it's like so high i could picture david
all right that's what I'm playing.
Yeah.
What are you going to play to take us out?
I was going to end it.
Oh, go eat it now!
Go eat it now.
Unlimited salad.
Hooray!
Oof.
I'm pumped now.
You guys want to play some football?
Pop quiz, Joe B.
I'm going to lift some weights, actually.
What is Tetreon?
Tetreon.reon yes that's
what tetris was going to be called first and then they said it was too long you should know this i
should know what tetreon is tetreon plop quiz oh like is it some sort of particles from star
track that involve time travel a subatomic particle that's a tachyon that can only exist
in subspace environments okay so i was kind of right uh if you knew any
more about it you would know that like beverly crusher investigated i was kind of right i said
star trek yeah you did yeah okay i got it right tetreon tapes you did very good i thought you
would get that tetreon tape sent us a package the other day let me see it there you go i love their
logo it's a little ray gun it's like a 19 would you stop playing the old
episode in the background who is this mall walker mall walker it's a punk band from buffalo new
york oh good city this is um a tape that came out what is this oh yeah all the j cards on this label
have an extra flap it's a silly. I think they call them silly folds.
Patent pending.
Wow.
Yeah, a little extra.
No, the flap has to fold back in under the tape.
I don't get it.
Take the tape out.
Fold the extra.
It's like a C card.
Fold in the silly flap.
G card.
That's a myth.
Wow. You can actually get this tape.
I find this very...
I don't know why I find this very funny,
but you can get it for four payments of $1.25,
which I have to say, if you're buying tapes on a layaway,
it's $5 or $4.25 payments.
You could just...
As your financial advisor, I'd recommend
not getting yourself in unnecessary debt
like that.
Stop playing
old episodes because it's confusing
to me.
These are recordings from 2018 and 2019
compiled on their
first physical release as a memorial
for the late Sarah Danger Underhill.
And the first
available at her memorial gig in baltimore in uh february of this past year the the tape is called
danger after the singer who passed away unfortunately um but it's uh it's a it's a solid
tape um and i'm a i'm a cool dad so i'm playing you know i got kids i'm playing i don't care
there's a song called shit talk i don't care okay i'm cool dad you're cool dad. So I'm playing. You know, I got kids. I'm playing. I don't care. There's a song called Shit Talk.
I don't care.
I'm a cool dad.
You're a cool dad, yeah.
Shit Talk.
Shit Talk.
Shit Talk.
Then you start talking about, like, fucking in the wet spot and stuff.
It's like, come on.
Come on.
And you were listening to this at dinner.
I'm listening to this at dinner with my kids and my family.
Why do you listen to this at dinner?
This is personal.
Because this is family time.
And I'm cool.
Because I'm the cool dad.
His kids are cool.
They come out.
Yeah, they do come out.
But do they like it?
But you know what?
I got my limits.
Yeah.
All right, don't.
Come on.
Give me a little bit of warning.
Just when you send me a tape, just be like, listen.
Okay.
When you send me the tape.
I just like to know where the line is.
Because naked Charlie Brown, cool.
No, I said that was not cool.
I said it was not cool.
Listen.
Here's the thing. Cartoon peckers. Stop sending me like bags of like what is that it's like weed like weed
gummies that people possibly people don't send me that stuff anymore in an alien yeah stop sending
me that who said this it could be just a regular gummy bear don't knock you want to split it i
don't i don't want that stuff anymore we put in the trash can oh so i'll send me that but if you
if it's going to be any tapes sometimes there's some tapes and like all of a sudden
somebody will come in and just start talking about some weird shit.
And it's like, come on.
I'm at dinner with my family here.
I'm trying to have a regular dinner with my family.
Yeah.
All right.
You can keep it clean.
Keep it clean for my family.
I'm a cool dad.
You're cool, man.
We know you're cool.
But I have my limits. Charlie Brown's penis is my limit. I'm a cool dad. You're cool, man. We know you're cool. I have my limits.
Charlie Brown's penis is my limit.
Everyone loves the police.
In wet spots.
What did I do?
All right, Mall Walker, Danger on Tetreon Tapes number 28.
Awesome label.
Bunch of crazy punk stuff.
I don't know why it reminded me so much of like early weird lookout record stuff or like
lookout adjacent stuff like like a label that would put out like a pinhead gunpowder 10 inch
or something uh but i've got that vibe from it but all right episode number what is it i didn't
189 189 wake me up in the can I don't know. so
uh Oh, my God. Come on! Exit Exit Exit Exit Exit
Exit
Exit I'm going to try to get a better view of the road. so
so I'm sorry. so
so so Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so so so so I'm going to go ahead and get the camera. so Let's go. I'm going to go back to the so I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a break. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I am the one who is the best. Thank you. so
we ¶¶ I'm sorry. Every night at the bar
You cross your legs and you talk like a star
Six drinks and maybe a twirl You call my name and it feels like a dog Six drinks in Make me a dwarf
You pull my gang and it feels like a curse
High-tech
Your shit
High-tech
Get with it
High-tech
I'm sick
High-tech
Now fix it On the street, high-tips, down 50
Every night at the bar
You close your eyes and you talk like a star
The straightening is worse
You saw my day, it feels like a pain
I take your shit
I take your women
I take, I take, still living I take, I take, I take, still living Thank you
Thank you so much for having us
Thanks to everyone who's played
Everyone who's about to play
This is great
It's our last song
It's the cover. I love to kiss dancers
I wanna marry a two-piece dancer
I wanna love a Toe Deceptor I wanna know the worth of my salvation
Go on and watch Toe Deceptors, yeah
Build up these feet, don't shut your eyes
Because there's everyone in the train
And you don't get no fire, no
You're just like a fire
You throw everyone to a TV
Can I separate?
I love to dance I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance
I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I'm a human, I'm a human, I'm a human, yeah It's a me that needs a hug
I'm a man that's not caring
And I ain't got to be a man
I love to disaster
I wanna marry a disaster
I want another one like the last
Who's on the wood to the justice
Yeah, I love wood to the justice
I want a million to the justice
I want another one like the last one
Who's on the wood to the justice
Yeah, I love wood to the justice
I want a million to the justice
I want another one like the last one
For the world, children's doctor
Yeah!
Thank you.
We're Mall Walker.
Thanks.
Yeah.
It's got a cool YouTube lady on it.
Yeah, we're back.
We're back.
I'm going to say this just because Jamie already made me feel so stupid and bad by saying no one listens at this point.
So I don't feel bad by saying this. No one stayed to the end.
Stop playing old episodes in the background.
So I sent you both a text message after the last episode.
Who, me?
Yes.
Because I noticed that a member of the smashing pumpkins
liked oh yeah the new guys well here's the thing it's not it's not james eha when i send i know it
wasn't billy corgan yeah okay i thought that was cool stuff i'd send this to my wife uh-huh i'm
like oh look at this this is pretty cool remember the smashing pumpkins like
the uh the instagram post about the latest episode and she sends a message back right
away which she never sends me a message back right away ever this one i get a message the
bubbles pop up right away oh it just says it's not even an original member yeah it's like the
new person and i was like all right never mind I'll just stop doing the no one listens. He's probably like 25.
There's nothing inside.