Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #189 | 5.30.23

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Kouns & Weaver, Mid Air!, Acid Mothers Temple, Charles Barabé, Luurel Varas, Pumpkin Witch, Another Dark December, Alex Jacobsen, Wide Color, Mallwalker, and a visit from Liz and Dwight from Crash Sy...mbols

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Cassette Podcast, episode 189. Sega. I wanted to start off today's... I'm Mike, by the way. Oh. I wanted to start off... You're Mike'm Mike, by the way. Oh. I wanted to start off... You're Mike? You're Mike?
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm on Mike. I thought you guys were going to say your names after I did mine. No, I decided not to. Very professionally, I was doing it, and then... I'm Jamie. I'm Jamie. I'm Joe. I wanted to start off episode 189 with a game.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Oh, I like games. I know. I wanted to play a game with my friends. I would like to play a game. Would you like to play I know. I wanted to play a game with my friends. I would like to play a game. Would you like to play a game? I wanted to play a game with my friends. Like a resource management game, a legacy game,
Starting point is 00:01:14 Tower Defense. What are we talking here? Deck building? Classic role playing? I didn't bring my dice. We can use a dice roller. I cannot tell. It's confidential. It's a confidential game? I wanted to play a discogs-based game where...
Starting point is 00:01:29 Oh, Jamie's going to be too good at it. I know. I saw Jamie the other night. It was actually last night. I saw Jamie, and the first thing I heard him say the whole night, we were in a public setting, like a social setting. Wait, where were you? This was a private event.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It was at a noise show. Last night? Two nights ago. Two nights ago. I'm sorry night two nights ago two nights ago all right all right all right all right my mind and my body are going north and south all right so you're at a social event a private social event and uh the first thing i heard him say was say was requesting somebody can you go to discogs.com real quick what the fuck is this pervert like he can his he can't you know you can't yeah he just can't stop himself in his butt there was there was appropriate context to that whatever right well it's um all right what's the game the game that i wanted to do i wanted to have a thing where are we doing it or you just want to talk about doing it i wanted to like be able to go to the discogs.com website and like maybe get like a tape we were
Starting point is 00:02:25 playing or something and like maybe find people who own the tape who have it or something and then I'll ask you guys like all right like who they said like which one of these two people who has like the higher discogs like score like feedback but like as I'm like looking I was like yeah this is gonna be a fun game i'll play this game with my friends and they'll be like my good game man we should get together like off podcast and just play this game and just play this game just friends right um but then um but i'm looking on discogs and every one of these like noise necks who like buy these tapes all have just 100 rating it's all just like it's all quid pro quo it's all nepotism it's all just like oh like i got the tape in the mail the
Starting point is 00:03:15 j card is excellent we'll buy again no no criticisms ever it's disgusting it makes me sick makes me sick to my stomach so we're not so cool game yeah so you ruined my fucking game and now we have no now all we are excited for a game i know i was now all we have to do is play the tapes so i guess we could just do that we don't even get the i got we could try we can go to discogs now i don't want to play this game it doesn't really sound that fun well it sounds fun to me well i know you want to go you want to play it regardless of i'm already logged in yeah i'm already logged in well just play just somebody pick a tape then all right jamie you pick a tape you can go first okay since you would have won the game yeah okay uh got some uh ohio love here uh coons and weaver coons and weaver
Starting point is 00:04:00 both of them on one both of them from From Unifactor. That label your mom runs. Cleveland, Ohio label. Coons and Weaver. Columbus. Columbus, Ohio. I've been to both cities. No, you haven't. You've been nowhere. What do we got here? What is this? The newest Unifactor
Starting point is 00:04:21 batch? I see they just dropped something. Or did this come out? It's not on Discogs yet. i think it's pretty new see here he goes again we got a couple wavy lines oh well actually you're just on discogs and it's not i can't believe you didn't put it on there i haven't gotten to it it's in my queue it's in my queue so who what if they don't want you to put it on yet? Nobody's ever told me not to. Oh, okay. You have never gotten a cease and desist. A label, an artist has never... Has anyone gotten in touch with you and said you fucked up? Yeah, actually.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I knew it. There's a couple people that have said don't use my real name. And so I graciously changed their name to a pseudonym for that. And who was it? Who said, what tape was it and what is their name? It's Robbie. I cannot tell you it's confident local robbie okay he didn't want like his school to find out that makes sense yeah yeah that makes sense okay well i'll tell them what do they what do they think either anyways no one's googling you know what shitty bands are in yeah so this
Starting point is 00:05:23 is rick weaver rick weaver richard weaver you could i just realized right now you could call him dick weaver no you could you could you could do you want to do it okay all right oh he said yeah jamie you do it okay i mean uh dick we i don't know you got too excited. You got too excited. Never mind. Never mind. What's the other person's name? First name? Zach. Zach Coons, yes. Bit of a jazz nut, I believe.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Oh, a jazz nut. Right? I like jazz. A little on the wacky side. Oh, wacky stuff. Oh, I love wacky stuff. Hell yeah. Not like this, though.
Starting point is 00:05:59 You know what kind of instrument this is? I like Tom Morello. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The first time I heard this, I thought it was a turntable. This is a guitar. It's a guitar. They don't teach you this
Starting point is 00:06:09 at private guitar lessons. Oh, no. You gotta learn this on the streets. Wait, what are all of these names listed inside here? I think those are additional players, maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:17 There's a lot. Here, do you want to read all these additional players? There's a lot of people in there. That's really small. You're being very rude by not naming all these players. God, give people their credit.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Well, he doesn't want to use their real names. Wow. So these, I guess, are the track titles. The first track is called Lycos. Remember Lycos.com? It's an old search engine. Read the names on the J card. These are last names.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Stone, Coons, and Weaver. The second track, Crival, Coons, and Weaver. The third track, Fire Tools, Coons, and Weaver the third track fire tools coons and weaver vocals by fire tools on the top on the very top of the j card it says coons and weaver is and it lists a whole bunch of names haven't haven't been stone this is not hard at least crevel fire tools zach coons rick weaver morgan garrett caleb miller jeremy harris nadeja and then lyrics by Zach Coons.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Arrangements by Rick Weaver. Unless otherwise noted. Jamie, please. Very good. Unifactor number 56. Nice. What else came out in the batch? You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:18 You don't know. You don't know. Joe B., what do you got? Their band camp is empty. Empty? It's empty. Oh, it's a ghost town. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Let me. Oh, what happened? What happened here? When I go to unifactorbandcamp.com, it's only B-Mask. That's the only artist up there. Fuck B-Mask. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:07:35 We got a beef. You got to go to the... I'm just joking. Who the hell is that? You got to go to the slash music, I guess. If you just go to the default page, it takes you to the artist page, and they only have one artist. Alright. April.
Starting point is 00:07:47 That's not it. Coons and Weaver. This one came out in... Joe, we just start going. In... I'm getting ready. April. This came...
Starting point is 00:07:55 This is an old... Okay, so. I'll tell you the batch. Hold on. I gotta make sure. I gotta check one more. Eventually, he's gonna tell us the batch. There's at least four tapes in the batch.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'm backing up one more. Do you think they did five tapes in a batch? No, they always do three. Four. It's all. Four. Four. Christopher Brown.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Three. Telepathic Daydream. Tufak. I loathe the secular world. Koons and Weaver. Children of Symeria. And B-Mask. For Psy is not too large or infinity too long.
Starting point is 00:08:25 A new B-Mask tape. A new B-Mask tape for Psy is not too large or Infinity too long. A new B-Mask tape? A new B-Mask tape. Very interesting stuff. Mm-hmm. All right. And you're going to play the Coons and... Yeah, I'm going to play the Coons and Weaver tape. I'm still bent out of shape about that Dick Weaver thing I thought about earlier.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Oh, man. All right. Joby, what do you got? Don't tell me you got more of this dungeon synth oh i do but i don't know if i'm gonna go right i mean to talk to you about this why because i know what you're doing i know your angle uh-huh your angle is like oh these dungeons labels are gonna start sending us free yeah sending us free stuff i got bad news for you they don't know they're not no they're not i have a feeling that they are all they're younger people in their 20s, and we are, and I hate to say
Starting point is 00:09:07 it. In my mid-40s? Old men. Yeah. And they're not- I'm not actually in my mid-40s. No. Well, by the time this episode comes out, it takes me a bit to-
Starting point is 00:09:15 My early 40s. Yeah, but it takes me a bit to edit these. Early to mid. So you're going to be- Mid's 45, right? Just right in the middle. 44, I'm still in my early. Right? No. No. Well no i'm 43 got you is that a funny number it's pretty funny is dave doyen in his 40s yet oh i don't know i
Starting point is 00:09:34 think he's 27 hmm what do you play are you playing some of these dungeons i don't know yet i got a bunch i brought a bunch of tapes i haven't decided don't look i wanted to pick jesus christ oh you're gonna pick no i think i'll start with uh and i know we play a lot from this person but i don't care um a mid-air tape oh you love mid-air i like mid-air because that 100 bootleg it's 100 bootleg because i didn't know what it was at all at first because it comes in this little like yeah i hear it more than i see it plastic yeah like i think it's like too crinkly i think it's the kind of thing like a like that you see like if you had leftovers and you you would seal you know what i mean like
Starting point is 00:10:10 it's like saran wrap like saran wrap yeah yeah it's got a bunch of little stuff inside it's like old shrink wrap we got some stickers is there any uh bubble gum wrappers here jamie scan that that's a qr code i know what it is. This is for the listeners, Jamie. We don't have video yet. Oh, I dropped a whole bunch of stickers. This label, it's always, it's got the vibe. Please, Jamie, do this on your own time. It's got the vibe of an illuminated path.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Here, you scan that. If anyone knows that label of, and then i'm taking it out of the plastic wrap but it's just the link tree it's the link tree but it's not just the link tree look all the stuff on the link tree jamie there's a lot there's a lot of stuff jamie goes out into nature what is on that one oh yeah jamie that's what i'm talking about jamie goes out into nature hand me your phone he goes out into nature oh it's just trees there's a tree it's just water and it's like jamie i took jamie one time to yosemite yellow spring park jamie that tree's 10 000 years old i took him
Starting point is 00:11:10 to yosemite jellystone park jellystone park and i showed him the world's oldest volcano and he said oh what's his big deal what's his oh he's sitting there piddling at his pecker oh whoa whoa whoa but it also came with a little note for us so that's why i figured i'd play this tabs out thank you why does this have tabs out on the screen that's the link tree it's just a link to thank you for the words a review that we did pal oh very cool thank you for the kind words pal i think that's a threat what your pal jamie you're reading it wrong well anyway don't tell me who my pals are this label the 100 bootleg cassette tape company that's run by midair uh you know it's all the tapes it's very um it's very confusing whether
Starting point is 00:11:57 the the little slips of paper and different things that come with it are part of the release or trash that accidentally made their way in with it that is interesting um yeah it's a discogs dilemma too god there he goes what i like on the link tree too jamie is the download card code part of the release i don't know people are going to send you death threats eventually the first thing on the link tree is a friends and family playlist that takes you to spotify I think it's a special playlist for friends and family. Okay. We're friends. We're pals.
Starting point is 00:12:28 We're pals. We're pals. I had a separate note that he called me a friend. But then I haven't even opened the tape yet. Look how it's packaged. Remember when you go to Burt's and get a blank C90 to make a mixtape? Oh, shit. And yeah, he like re-shrink wrapped it in like japanese yeah is this
Starting point is 00:12:46 like original packaging from an actual cassette or did he re-imagine it i don't know no this looks original because it's all like torn up in here burt did that open this up burt's was a record store jamie i know every you don't know there was one on 202 there was one on oh you only went to that i met burt one time joe is using this as a way of saying your local record store and you would go there and you buy a tape oh open it up a lot of plastic oh this was just clear plastic I see what he did okay then he reused that a lot of trash in there a lot more trash seven out of twenty fucked up fish new one from midair i'm more of a fan of real big fish 100 bootleg 2023 this is a fresh john hell yeah is there imprinting on this shell or is it just
Starting point is 00:13:35 like a it literally is a sony a japanese sony 120 minute tape oh hell yeah they do a lot of that with these with on this label is just's just like the, you know... With a sticker on it. The standard... He goes out and he buys the six pack. Yeah. He goes to his store and he's like... He might have got 20 of these. Give me another sixer. Give me another sixer. And he goes home and he dubs them. Yeah, those old
Starting point is 00:13:58 Mac cells are starting to become not cheap. Oh, yeah? I think. Tell me you saw that on the disguised message board and i'll i'll fucking tie you up and dump you at the train tracks i'm in this like facebook group for uh boomers that are like cassette audiophiles and they like they get real big into this stuff all right and then i'm gonna play uh I'm gonna finish up the block with this, um, get a load of this one.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Put my glasses on. Asset Mother's Temple, ST-37 Split. Ooh, a cassette. Yeah, split cassette. I saw Asset Mother's Temple the other night in Wilmington, Delaware at a very, a tiny show, a little bar. They're on tour. They might still be on tour.
Starting point is 00:14:43 It was, uh, they played in delaware a few years ago and it's one of those moments where you're there jamie i was at neither oh dave doyen didn't invite us to the first one and the second one i had to go to a wedding not us i was at the first one yeah it was one if you let me finish it's one of those moments when you really find out who your friends are and aren't because Because when As a Mother's Temple plays about 10 blocks from your house and no one tells you. And you sit at home. I think I texted you. No.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Are you coming? If you just texted me, are you coming and nothing else. That's not enough. So I missed them. But I did find out about this one. And it was a hell of a gig. I picked up this tape. It was a little confusing because, like, there's...
Starting point is 00:15:28 I think they also did another split a few years ago, and this one, there's not too much online presence for it, so I couldn't tell if it was, like, a reissue. I don't think it is. I think it's a new tape that they made for tour. I love the cover art. Joby, if you can find out who drew that, it's Ayana Sphere.
Starting point is 00:15:46 That's who drew these clouds on there. Don't let Jamie get along with those clouds, by the way. Yeah, the cover art by Ayana Sphere. It's beautiful. But yeah, both groups. I think ST37 is... Are they from Texas? They might be from Texas.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I'll look it up while we play. I like that the first track on the Aspen Oaks Temple side is nine seconds long. Then the second track is 28 minutes long. I'm look it up while we play. I like that the first track on the Ask Mother's Temple side is nine seconds long. And the second track is 28 minutes long. I'm gonna play the nine second track. Yeah, just play the first one. Nah, there's a five minute jammer on there. Yeah, that's the third track. How many times have you seen Ask Mother's Temple? Just the one. Jeff, that was it. That was it?
Starting point is 00:16:17 I saw it only once also. Twice, baby. Twice? Okay, look at you. I win. My guy playing the synthesizer. He had a can of WD-40. Okay, I heard about that. He was greasing those knobs. He likes them real loose. There must be...
Starting point is 00:16:31 He's got some scratchy pots. There must be like a release valve on the bottom. He unscrews it every night. It's like changing your oil. And it just drains. It just... Or he takes it... Do you think he takes it...
Starting point is 00:16:44 Is it WD-40 or is it a contact cleaner a contact cleaner it was wd-40 yeah i'm not sure you're supposed to use that on electronics i don't believe you are i don't know either way i did i was the whole time because i was really feeling every time he used it it sent a little chill up my spine and i was thinking when this is all over i'm gonna ask if i can put a tabs out sticker on that can of wd-40 and i didn't have the nerve to ask so i just put it on the sticker without asking oh you just did it i just did it but do you think he brings this synth to like a jiffy lube every night and they put it up on the lift they bring it up yeah only certain cities don't know how to do that at jiffy yeah not a jiffy lube
Starting point is 00:17:19 there's a drain it yeah yeah but i'm gonna play there's a five minute cut on there play that jam um but yeah thanks thanks i forget who told me that they were playing this time but thank you to my real friends and uh i wish nothing but uh pain to all my haters and everyone this this is on i believe blue circle and sounds from Sounds from the Pocket are the labels. As at Mother's Temple from Japan. All right, we ready to... Wait on you. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Sister is lost. Sister is lost. Sister is lost. far as swallowing that stinger's far, I see far Oh north with the wind torn, with the warmth of a teammate North to Maine Her body decayed, her body decayed, her body decayed Search for her, search for her, search for her, search for her And you find migrating birds To those, to those And I am in torment Dying in the late, late torment Sister waits in the clearing
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Starting point is 00:20:19 Is lying on the ground So slow And wild animals are just savoring somebody in a frenzy! I'm not sure if I can do it. Sister waits in the clearing with plague infamy From the dark red harvest moon of cosmos To ravage a fleshless or rabid animal And annihilate the world of man and science A procedure of being a reptile
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Starting point is 00:29:59 He kicked all his pals A whoop-up in A wolf got in the... The dead are in the days Look out the road The poker is a play Balls in the sunshine The children disobey Brain and the ladies
Starting point is 00:30:22 They're stroking into the shore Get up the car Get back up the horse Off the car, back up the horse Take a little walk on the green Small land on the street No walking, hear no water Watch your feet
Starting point is 00:30:51 Me, me I'm on a party She bought a party, party The party, party of the poor dream Shoot Other fantasy I'm the pot dream Shoot I'm the fantasy The shoot I'm the fantasy
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Starting point is 00:32:30 A-bump-bump-bump-bump-bump-bump The people bump-bump-bump Drink up, run, town, leave, come Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! coons and weaver and a bunch of buddies children and we'll send that tape children of what Samaria area where is it up children of children of Samaria on unifactor midair fucked up fish a little fuck me a fish 100% bootleg cassette tape company and then that ass at mother's Temple. Split with ST-37. Blue circle. Sounds from the park. Oh, scary.
Starting point is 00:33:50 You know the scare me row. I'm doing it. You know, I was thinking more about my Discogs game. Oh, good. And I did find someone with a pretty bad rating on Discogs. 83.3. So what's the game again? I forget.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I kind of forget now. So you found people with bad things. Jamie. What do we do game again? I forget. I kind of forget now. So you found people with bad things. Jamie. What do we do? We just laugh. He got about it. No, it was kind of, I think it was let our friends in. We had guests. Yeah, this game's dumb. We had guests. Are they
Starting point is 00:34:18 in the room? Are they here with us now? Hello, computer. Hello, computer. Jamie, I think we're, are we there're are we there they're there jamie are they there yeah jamie you have one job to do our friends here yeah jamie i invited friends to my house are they here they're here can you hear them liz and dwight from crash symbols are you here with us today maybe so i think so i hear you hello thank you for joining us thanks for showing up thanks for showing up for the first time ever after being invited two times can you see us we can't see you hi so what happened last
Starting point is 00:34:52 time do you want do you want do you need some room to apologize for not showing up last time i don't actually remember what happened liz can you help me out here i don't really remember it's gone it's gone that's fine why don't you tell us a little bit what label do you guys run it's pronounced crash symbols okay and i got it right yeah me too and how long were you both running this label for before you realized that you were like whoops we spelled it wrong i don't know the magnitude of it quickly dawned on us we but we we like charge forward nice and oh it's something we have to spell out to everyone every time yeah are you just walking around you're walking around like morgantown west are you still in morgantown west virginia i think so you think so are you sheets are you just walking around like going into the sheets
Starting point is 00:35:51 like no it's symbols like with yeah and then we leave that sheets and go into other sheets yeah just on the crash symbols sheets tour during covid they just built tunnels between all of them oh wow oh that's not actually that's not a bad idea are you really thinking about something right now that's not a bad idea what about what about kids doing graffiti down there i think it's fine if kids do graffiti in the sheets tunnels okay you mean public art i think that's fine oh now we're spelling this wrong i think we have a problem here how long have you been doing the label for i've um i'm jamie do you want to guess because you were surprised earlier you looked up on discogs you were like i didn't realize they had
Starting point is 00:36:41 x amount of yeah the discography is vast. I think he started in 2011. No, I'm going to say 2009. No, 2011, I'm going to say. Let me check the record. Final answer? 2010. 2010.
Starting point is 00:37:02 2010? Oh, so I should have went... I'm going back to 2009, so i'm right okay but you're not right it's 2010 that's fine and you're both putting out like you're on like a pretty insane schedule you're like putting out like a release like every month aren't you yeah it's somehow what's with it ends up going that way. What's with that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:36 It's the most astrological aspect of the label. There are categories that seem to feed into determining when a thing happens, but then, I don't know, maybe we just align with everybody and we have the same foibles and all of our schedules collapse and open up at the same times because things, things seem to be delayed in just the right way to create like really like right now, especially it's very thick. We have another thing coming out next week or another pre-order going up next week. We have a bunch of stuff going to you
Starting point is 00:38:06 guys that would have maybe been with you in time for this. I love when you send stuff. Liz, thank you. You draw the little pictures on the envelopes. You made our dragon logo. The dragon logo, yeah. Is that updated yet?
Starting point is 00:38:23 Jamie cannot figure out how to make it like propagate to the pop to the all the podcast aggregation sites yeah yeah so we figured we'd have you on do you know how to do it yeah can you figure that out for us we really appreciate it you kind of started it you can you finish it can you get your job like we kind of asked you to draw the dragon for us and you did but that can you make it work i've been dragging it out oh my god so you said you're putting up a pre-order soon what is the next thing on crash symbols it's uh it's our lovely friend mark dinardo his um uh proper appellation is m mdn no periods is this someone you worked with before no this is a new a new person old friend uh he's based in brooklyn okay have you heard of it i have not. That's one thing about Crash Symbols is like it is always a
Starting point is 00:39:26 surprise when you send and you're so kind. You've been so kind to send us stuff throughout the years. Oh, we love you guys. We're fans. Well, go on. We don't just listen for no reason.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It's very weird that you would like a fan would like not show up to that last interview. It's because of Liz. She probably had another concurrent thing or something. Oh, no, it was. No, no. You asked after we got our after our car was totally. Oh, my God. your car got towed?
Starting point is 00:40:08 What happened? Did like a mothman step on it? You have mothman in West Virginia, right? I thought that was in Virginia. That's West Virginia is the mothman, right? The prophecy? He's ours. I don't know. Is the mothman prophecy the same as the mothman? That's a movie. That's the guy. That's him. What happened to your car?
Starting point is 00:40:26 Oh my god too much the tire exploded and sounded like a beer can getting flashed okay so it added up to total that's awful but everyone's safe yeah thank god
Starting point is 00:40:42 oh good and it didn't delay this interview yeah I don't good and it didn't delay this interview yeah that's true yeah i don't think technically it did i don't think that was was the reason it didn't happen that's well that's all that matters that's all that matters um who wants how well do you do you guys i noticed you had when we asked how long the label had been going on for dwight you had to like look it up how well do you think you know Crash Symbols like if we gave
Starting point is 00:41:10 you a little like if we gave you a pop quiz hot shot I don't know it depends on I guess it depends on how specific the question was you could you can get pretty specific if you're trying to like play Battleship on the band camp like find something do you want me to just
Starting point is 00:41:29 get into it mike yeah yeah let's get into it i think we like games here we like games i tried to do a game earlier and it kind of i kind of failed oh i didn't know we had game music so jamie's got a game for you and you guys just gonna just jump in with the answers when you can once there was this kid who had a song called foam in 2022 we should say that it was the name of the game i don't know it's you didn't put it in there crash test symbols crash test symbols this name of this fun game that we're playing is called crash test symbols which is very funny were you able to hear the question that jamie's saying you jamie why don't you go and sing it again turn the music down a little bit
Starting point is 00:42:21 there's there is literally one question in the song. There is literally one question in this song for you that Jamie will sing again. Check, check. A little something. Check. Jamie, please. I like how the intro has to play every time.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Once there was this kid who had a song called Foam In 2022 Survey says Is it a Sam Gaskin? No The few words I hear I associate with that
Starting point is 00:43:01 Just say the question, Bill The song is called foam and you put it out in 2022 phone phone i didn't i clearly didn't hear anything if you thought that was what's the answer what isn't the answer what's the answer jamie uh ben wheeler you had a song called foam oh that sounds like well sea moss did a bunch of... I just told you. 2020, 2022. I should just be looking at our... I don't know. Ben Wheeler.
Starting point is 00:43:33 You told us it's Ben Wheeler. Oh, my gosh. Jamie, do another one. Do another one of these. No, that doesn't make sense. Shut up and listen. Check, check. Once, there was this girl who had a rough patch,
Starting point is 00:43:56 which was audible in her manic energy and paranoid mood. These guys don't know their label at all that was literally in the description on bandcamp so you should get this oh my god Jamie sing it again sing it again Jamie stop once Jamie, stop!
Starting point is 00:44:28 Once there was this girl who had a rough patch, which was audible in her manic energy and paranoid mood. Yeah, you nailed it that time, Jamie. I just want to do it like three more times.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Do it one more time with reverb take do it one more time with reverb do it one more time with reverb and then let them guess I can't figure out how the reverb works hey hey hey hey hey that's not working you broke it
Starting point is 00:45:00 hey hey wait oh that's it yeah put room on not plate whoa You broke it. Hey. Hey, wait. Oh. I think I... Hello? Hey. Oh, that's it. Yeah, put room on it. Not plate. Whoa. That's the leg. Hey.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. That's like a plate. That's plate? Yeah. Oh, nice. Okay. Actually, I want Paul. Please.
Starting point is 00:45:21 All right, can we just give them the answer? Yes. The answer was Mrs. Dink. I don't think you guys are going to get any of these. We have 20 more. We have 20 more of these. Do you want to finish them out?
Starting point is 00:45:58 Hey. hey then there was this boy whose second tape on your label was titled rolling through you gotta get this one you have to get one right that's julia bloop oh i don't know it says julia bloops bloop oh my god you don't even know pronounced you suck card says moops this is so this is so embarrassing for you guys to be such big fans of us i gotta fact check this real quick fact check julia no it is julia bloop you wrote it wrong in the in the uh thing i fucked it up oh my god i fucked it up oh i feel so well we'll cut all that out julia bloop julia bloop you got one one out of three fun variation it's not that bad well you know what we're gonna play a tape on your label how's that here's your prize here's your prize for coming on here's your prize. Here's your prize for coming on. Here's your prize. How about the riddle? How about riddle me this?
Starting point is 00:46:47 How about for... Oh my God, what a transition. Speaking of riddles, riddles for a machine. This is a brand new one on Crash Symbols. Can you tell us a little bit about riddles for a machine? That's our lovely friend Carl in Estonia. We've done a few tapes with him. That is his third.
Starting point is 00:47:04 And it's good fun. We all worked really hard on it. Do you want Jamie to come up with a quick Crash Test Dummies parody for it? Here, let me hand it to him. And go ahead and sing some. Just start the music and go ahead and sing them one. Beautiful. Jamie. ahead and sing them one Jamie once there was this tape whose title was riddles for a machine it came in 2023 oh yeah That's pretty good, Jamie
Starting point is 00:47:45 Yeah, thanks Yep Well, Dwight and Liz Thank you for finally coming on Finally Hey, if you have any extra Of those luxury Elite tapes From 2015
Starting point is 00:47:52 You can send a few our way Noted No, okay Just no Well, good luck Good luck with the label Good luck with your car Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:04 It was nice meeting you I like this Oh my gosh This is Laurel Virus, right? Well, good luck with the label. Good luck with your car. Yeah. It was nice meeting you. Oh, my gosh. This is Laurel Virus, right? Riddles for a Machine? Oh, that's right. The name of the tape is Riddles for a Machine. The name of the project is Laurel... What is it?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Laurel Virus? Is that how you pronounce it? Laurel Varus. Laurel Varus. Excuse me. Sorry. I apologize. Brush up on your Estonian.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I apologize. Maybe you showed up last episode and told me about it I would have known for this time maybe I'm wrong alright well guys thanks for hanging out for a little bit we love you guys have a great day bye
Starting point is 00:48:37 wands I could have done that I'm just getting over a cold if you can't tell so my voice is a little bit more baritone. He got a virus. It's fine. You did fine. I'm glad we got to play a game, though, at least.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I kind of been like Jonesen to play some kind of game, but all my games are dumb. I like the Discogs game. You're not a game designer. Yeah, you got to develop it. You got to workshop it a little bit. You brought it to the table too soon. This person only has 18 ratings, and they have an 83.3 percent okay so what's the game again i don't know but they'll be part of it
Starting point is 00:49:09 where's the fun come i don't know yet okay you're just finding pad finding people with poor ratings on discogs and then we're doing something with them i don't know are we selling them something and seeing if they give us a review? Or how fast they ship it to us? And how the quality of the J card? Seller never sent. Had to contact Discogs and in negotiations with PayPal for refund. Looks like third time this year. Do not buy from this account.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Okay. That's the game. That's the game. Okay. We're just reading bad reviews. I guess. Pretty fun, I guess. I guess. I'm not able to read them because We're just reading bad reviews. I guess. Pretty fun, I guess. I guess.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I'm not able to read them because you're just reading them to me, so I don't know how it's a two-player game. It seems like it's a one-player game. Well, we're bringing your dice next time. Oh, okay. Bring your dice and then you can play. All right. All right, so I'll start off that block with that Laurel.
Starting point is 00:49:58 I already forget how- Laurel Varus. I wish they didn't leave. They could have told me how to say it again. Laurel Varus. Riddles for a machine. From Estonia. From Estonia.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Mate, how does somebody from West Virginia find somebody from from estonia we'll never internet the internet okay yeah i guess that makes sense yeah well the world's just becoming smaller smaller dude yeah you don't get it yeah no i don't believe in that kind of stuff i think it's flat and it's getting bigger i think it's thick as hell yeah yeah it's like a thick chicago style and stinky oh it definitely smells you've been outside lately it's stinky you know there's a theory called the um concave hollow earth concave where people think that the world is round but we're on the inside looking down like we're we're inside of a big ball looking inward and and the universe is inside oh my god we're in there's a theory for everything yeah we're inside a big ball a sphere yeah a concave hollow earth is round but instead
Starting point is 00:50:53 of us being on the outside looking out we're actually on the inside and the sun is at the center yeah fuck man that's what pink floyd's all about yeah dude hell yeah man all right joey what you got what do i got where's your before joke where's all about yeah dude hell yeah man all right joey what you got what do i got where's your before joke where's your crash symbols tapes i want to pick a crash symbols tape oh yeah oh you can do that yeah i know where they are they're right there they're in this area that i'm pointing i'm gonna get back to form let's start with pu are you what do you mean what does that mean back to form pumpkin witch you're going jamie you better hurry up because you gotta get on the scary sounds real quick turn joe b's entering the dungeon baby the return of
Starting point is 00:51:29 the pumpkin witch oh no did you find the the spreadsheet it's color-coded this is on death bomb arc made made in canada thank god yeah i see that's why the naroko case just naroko case is broken and the printing is offset a little bit that's canadian you know they do things it's a little bit different well they like it like that this very much has a uh scary vhs horror vibe thank you jamie oh well yeah very spooky i mean Horror vibe. Thank you, Jamie. Oh, well, yeah. Very spooky. I mean, look at the imprinting on the shell. What is it? It's literally made to look like a VHS tape. Is that what's going on? And I like how it's...
Starting point is 00:52:12 I didn't have my glasses on. I like how the imprint is a little off. Yeah, you like that, huh? It has the spools of the VHS tape. I just like them to line up with the spools of the cassette tape. I like how it's off because it's scarier that way. Is it scarier? Like it's melting away. I get it now. I just don't like line up with the spools of the cassette tape I like how it's off because it's scarier that way Is it scarier? Like it's melting away I get it now
Starting point is 00:52:27 I just don't like scary stuff you know Well then why don't you bring it up I like to do just a little bit Just a little bit You know what I mean But I don't want to listen to it You're not actually playing it I just want to talk about that
Starting point is 00:52:37 Is that why I'm holding it? You want me to keep it kind of away from You brought this for me to get rid of for you Scary names too Stalked through the shadowy vapor Beat of the mummified heart You brought this for me to get ready for you? Scary names, too. Stalked through the shadowy vapor. Beat of the mummified heart. Wandering the moonlit manor.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Those are just a couple of scary names. I don't worry anymore because I'm getting too scared. You know what would make this... Actually, can we open the blinds up? You know what would make it just a touch scarier? What's that? Blood? No, that would make it too way too... Okay, that's gore.
Starting point is 00:53:07 That's gore, all right. Yeah, don't go... And then you're getting into like exhumed cow decapitation, kind of like... Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm. I'm talking about just a touch. A touch of? Instead of calling it Pumpkin Witch, maybe they changed their name to Jack-o'-lantern Witch. Jack-o'-lantern.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Jack-o'-lantern Witch. Witch. Jack-o'-lantern Witch. It doesn't have atern witch it doesn't have a good a pumpkin's not that scary and like tell me what's on the cover is it a pumpkin or is there a face carved into it there's a face carved into it so that's a jack-o-lantern thank you yeah so it's not a pumpkin witch it's a jack-o-lantern witch so it's not a pump so i found oh lantern so i found a mistake you found a mistake he's at a carnival or something there's a carnival in the background there found a mistake you found a mistake he's at a carnival or something there's a carnival in the background there's a ferris wheel i think he has a knife
Starting point is 00:53:49 well there's probably he's probably at like a like a fall festival a fall festival and this is the return this is part two return of the pumpkin witch they they love them so much last fall the return of the pumpkin you know people go out they get the kettle corn they get a hayride hayride corn maze and that's where he a boo barn they the a pumpkin which i guess we don't have to gender them but it's a they come out in the in the in the maze i think the jack-o'-lantern witch the jack-o'-lantern witch yes yeah well all right so that's what i'm gonna play all right maybe they what do you think about that? They do... There's a petting zoo. What kind of fall festival are you going to...
Starting point is 00:54:29 Actually, no. Maybe they have a goat. Yeah, they definitely have goats. At like Millbourne Orchards? Yeah. And they got like... Maybe you're shooting... A pig?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, a pig. A big old pig. Big old dog pig. Big old pig. Come here, Brutus. Slap his butt. Oh, I'm getting a little scared. Yeah, this is pretty scary um i still don't think even after playing all this stuff i see you have a big ass hole dweller box
Starting point is 00:54:54 there i don't think they're going to send us any of this stuff it takes time i know oh i like how on the back they have the little sticker. I don't think we're on their radar. You know what I mean? I'm trying to get on their radar. Make inroads. Yeah. I like how it has the sticker that says like horror, like the genre sticker, but that's kind of peeling off, but it's like not a sticker. It's printed on the actual.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah, I see what they did there. This is, who did the, there goes that Naroko case again. Who did the artwork? I don't know. They didn't even. There's nothing. There's no info. Just track titles. Hmm. I don't know they didn't there's nothing there's no info so just
Starting point is 00:55:25 track titles hmm i don't know who pumpkin witch are or jackalyn or which and while you guys were talking about dungeon since i since i went over to the to the wall of tapes found mike's crash symbol section and i selected a tape um i was looking actually for the decade in exile tape from 2014 that's that's my personal favorite. You don't have that one. Seek that one out. Decade in Exile. And also the Luxury Elite tape,
Starting point is 00:55:52 which Dwight, he didn't seem to like that joke very much. I asked him to send a tape of the Luxury Elite because that sells for $100. Well, I think that's why, because he was like, come on, Jay. Come on. You're just going to flip it. You're just going to flip it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You know what we should have done. They're trying to save flip it. You're just going to flip it and like, you know. You know what we should have done. They're trying to save up for their retirement. While we had them on the interview, knowing they were preoccupied with something, sent someone to their house to- Swatted them? Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:18 To swatted them. To steal all the- To steal all the luxury. Yeah. Okay. I mean, we had nothing to do with that car accident. No, no. All right. We had nothing to do with the fucking car crash. Okay. i mean we had nothing to do with that car accident all right we had nothing to do with the fucking car crash okay nothing to do with that and we're not going to do this but we will set up an interview next month and then jamie you want
Starting point is 00:56:34 to get down to west virginia now sort of take out across the street to what it's like morgantown right yeah morgantown next to the sheets next to the sheets in the tunnel with the graffiti tudor's biscuitville all right. All right, I got this, one of my favorite artists, Charles Barabay. We haven't played him in a long time. Long time.
Starting point is 00:56:49 This is a tape from 2017. I don't have this one yet. This one's called Avant Garde a Vortan Romantic. It's a split too with Rat Killer. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Charles Barabay and Rat Killer. But I want to play Charles Barabay because I love Charles. Very cool. And we met Charles one time. He played Newark, Delaware a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Canadian artist, am I right? French-Canadian. Oh, Jesus Christ, I didn't know that. Your hair was in the toilet water. That's fine. Go eat some poutine. Yeah. Freedom fries.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Freedom fries. All right, hand it over here. All right. You said it's 2017? 2017. And I don't have this one. It not in my charles barra bay collection you weren't smart enough to get it okay i missed out on it now what color is that shell don't answer too quickly don't answer too quickly biscuit biscuit i don't know i mean if anything it's gravy but it's not gravy. Yeah, I would say gravy. I was going to say caramel.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Caramel. It's caramel. This is... You got poutine on mine. I was actually just going to say brown. Light brown. Light brown? Okay, light brown's good enough.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And then, did I pick one already? Oh, I was going to start off with that. Yeah. Well, you know what? Do you want to do the pumpkin witch first? Do whatever you want. Let's do the pumpkin witch first. Sandwich it or lay it on top.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Let's do the Pumpkin Witch last. We'll do... Oh, okay. Let's do the Pumpkin Witch now. No, last. Because we just got off the phone with them. We'll do it last. We'll do the Charles Barabay first.
Starting point is 00:58:20 First. Okay. 2017. 2017. Then the... We don't know how to say the other one because the estonian they didn't come from 2023 they didn't come last time which and then jack laner which give me fuel give me fire give me that give me fire give me that which i desire Thank you. I'm sorry. so Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. The I'm going to go ahead and do that. Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so I'm going to go ahead and do a little test drive. oh right in the pit
Starting point is 01:13:32 huh huh fuck you tell me fuck you tell me charles barabay motherfucker with the 2017 giving off i would say giving off was giving off pumpkin witch five yeah i thought that was pumpkin witch at first i've tricked joe i pranked you man i put that in and you were like is this the pumpkin witch tape and i said yep yep but it was charles barabay splitting with racula splitting that you at racula on crash symbols uh from 2017, and Laurel Varys, Riddles for a Machine, a brand new one on Crash Symbols,
Starting point is 01:14:10 and then that pumpkin witch who, um, Jamie, how do we go about fixing a typo on Discogs? Ooh, they spelled Anonymous wrong. Or did they? Anonymous Dungeon Synth Project. They spelled that wrong. But what if they're choosing to spell it that way?
Starting point is 01:14:26 Okay. And I'm stupid. And now I'm stupid. You don't get the joke. Now we're going to get in trouble. Now I'll fix it. Okay, let me know. Oh, you can do that?
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah. You have the code? Joby, let me know who is the scariest member of Pumpkin Witch. Jimmy, back me up here with some scary sounds. There is. I thought it was anonymous here with some scary sounds. There is... I thought it was anonymous. But it has members. Oh.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Okay. Haunter of Darkened Forests. Okay. The Disgraced Scientist. Oh. The Vampire Tyrant. Who is the scariest? The first one.
Starting point is 01:15:03 The Haunter of darkened forest yeah yeah yeah well this is great scientist that's like fucking Anthony Fauci yeah I came up lock him up the um the vampire tyrant that's a funny one because it's like it's like oh do you hear about that guy he's a vampire and
Starting point is 01:15:24 so that's not that bad no he's a vampire. And it's like, that's not that bad. No, he's a vampire. He's a tyrant. He's a tyrant. He rules. Oh, but he's such a bad vampire. He's a bad vampire. And then the Haunter of the Darkened Forest.
Starting point is 01:15:36 He goes to the forest. He's like, no, this one's too bright. I can't haunt this one. Yeah, there. It's getting better now that is a um the return of the pumpkin which is a 2022 release on death bomb arc okay ready going to this last block i think i can death bomb arc put out another pumpkin witch tape and this is the return um there is that's just called pumpkin in the frightful gaze of the pump of the pumpkin witch that's the 2018 okay the fun you could be stabbing these with um scary sounds to me every time i say you punch that up this is like day one shit man final strike oh of the pumpkin which so this is
Starting point is 01:16:19 the third 2019 and 2020 was a limited edition pumpkin pail box set. Ooh. Pumpkin pail box? Ladies and gentlemen, the mighty, mighty boss. Ladies and gentlemen, the mighty, mighty boss. And then in 2022, the return of the pumpkin witch. Oh, also in 2017, Hubble of the pumpkin witch. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Hubble of the pumpkin witch. But no return of the pumpkin witch. I donvel of the pumpkin witch but no return of the pumpkin which i don't know no avail but there's no just the pumpkin witch there's okay all right here you're looking for one that's called the pumpkin well there is no you know the return of the jedi but there's no just like the jedi the jedi so okay yeah all right so i can open up this final block can you i'm gonna open and close it yes please making me and joe a sandwich oh i'm the meat welcome cheese so i got here one call it's a long one another dark december
Starting point is 01:17:19 hmm i know jesus christ It's not that hard. Anthropocenes, apocalypse, and other various anxieties on histamine tapes. Ladies and gentlemen, the Doobie Brothers! This comes in a tall plastic bag. There's a lot going on in here. It's a little booklet with a cassette inside. Where are you that on the shelf fine young cannibal the cassette is dubbed over an old tape of cat stevens and ccr there's also an old floppy disk in here oh what is that three and a half yeah no wait what is it what's the dimensions of this gentleman dimensions of this, Jamie? It's three and a half.
Starting point is 01:18:05 It's three and a half, right? What's the other, the big one, five and a quarter? Yeah. Oh, nice. Then there's this booklet that comes with it. It's, I believe it's just, what is it? Is this art, right? That's art.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It's art? Yeah. Because it's just pictures? Yeah, pictures are art. Pictures are art. Words are art sometimes. Mostly pictures. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:21 These are mostly, there's some words. Some black and white, but mostly color. There's sound art too oh we play a lot of that no i know no i'm not i'm not into that but some of the some of the words are information in here special thanks to mel s and michelle q for their help i think that's not art sometimes it can be but then there's pictures of just like a utilitarian text you know what's that i don't have my glasses on it's just like a person with a machine and oh that's art yeah this ai art machine art no no no no no i think this is an idiot made this oh an idiot like a human a human idiot white noise album cover and they were like
Starting point is 01:18:55 i'm gonna burn the front oh that's art pyrography is that and it's like this it's like sandpaper. Be careful. He doesn't like that. What are you doing to me? Rub it off. I tried to warn you. Cottage cheese. I tried to warn you. The cover of it is like sandpaper. You got lotion? You want it now?
Starting point is 01:19:13 Yeah, I don't mind. It's really bad. I can't even hear it anymore. I have to take my headphones off. I thought you noticed. I don't have my glasses on. It just looked white paper to me. Jamie, go to the histamine tapes band camp.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Stop touching it so much I want it back I want to rub it a little bit Go to their band camp there's a long thing on there I want to look at the art but just open it up Don't hand it to me Hand me one of the pages A glossy page and I'll grip that See what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:19:37 Read there's a long thing on their band camp Like a disclaimer about buying this tape Oh a disclaimer? By another dark december mike did you see the margins the margins of the paper yeah they fucked up all right they fucked up in the copying process yeah this page is a little bit smaller i think that's r2 i think that's like the size of it is also art oh this is a legally blinding contract yeah go ahead and give yourself a... By purchasing this album slash cassette,
Starting point is 01:20:05 you are signing yourself away in a legally blinding contract where you assume any and all responsibilities. If you gain injury, lose a limb, or have a loss of life due to the sudden realization that this world is fucked and the anxiety due to implications thereof, ADD and HT and all other subsidiaries not hereby responsible if you have an existential existential crisis over the fact that the game has been rigged from the start and the only way to break free from the chains will be to overthrow
Starting point is 01:20:38 the techno feudalists that have killed the already flawed capitalistic society that died in 2008. Confirmed. Confirmed. Dead in 2020. While also trying to simultaneously rally the working class. While also fighting against the onslaught of digital misinformation sewn specifically to turn us against, I'm sorry, to turn us against each other over basic human rights that we should have had all along.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Mike. What? I don't like when you bring politics into this. I'm a little bit of a of a bernie bro yeah i'm a little bit of a bernie bro victim culture to me so i don't know if anything is on the actual maxell floppy disk that's in here so extra what's it saying surprisingly i do not have something to play that at home right now no me neither let me see what it's i've gotten rid of anything that would play that i'm not as surprised by you 1.2 i know it says actually i asked what it says and you didn't say anything
Starting point is 01:21:33 okay fair enough that's fair no that's fair no i respect you and i love you and i'm sorry good good and i'm sorry i handed you the sandpaper yeah i should have known you didn't like it i kind of feel like it's another dark December and histamine tape's fault for even sending it. I feel like they should have known you didn't want to ever touch it. What I like about the contract thing that you just read is it's whoever purchased it not listening.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I didn't buy shit, pal. I don't have to, you know. I'm sending this away as soon as I'm done playing it. I'm getting rid of it. It's not going to anymore they already started burning the last guy already started the fire they already started burning it so i'll finish it all right uh so i'm gonna start off the block with whoever i think whoever does this project also i think it's safe to say does the label safe to say yeah right we so. I don't have any
Starting point is 01:22:25 clues otherwise. Do you have any reason to disagree? I don't have any. I think a comms razor. Occam's razor. Occam's razor. From Vermont.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah. Occam's razor. From Vermont. Vermont. So that would lead me to believe you. So that's why I'm a Bernie bro. That's why.
Starting point is 01:22:38 That's why I'm a Bernie bro. All right. Okay. Subliminal. Murphy's Law. I never know Vermont and New Hampshire. You never know. I don't think anyone knows. Murphy's Law. I never know Vermont and New Hampshire. I don't think anyone knows which one's which.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Oh, I don't know. Which one's which? New Hampshire has a coast. Did you know that? What? Okay, so New Hampshire's on the right and Vermont's on the left. New Hampshire has a coast. Like to the ocean? It has a coast that's like 30 minutes long. It's really short. Okay, that's how I'll remember it. Because there are like two pieces that are like flip.
Starting point is 01:23:06 That's where Portsmouth, New Hampshire is on the coast. Oh, Portsmouth. I never knew which one was which. You know what I'm really good at? What? Give me a blank map and let me just... Give me all the states like a puzzle piece and just let me cook. Just give me that.
Starting point is 01:23:18 What's a blank map? But can you find like Kansas? Like an outline of the United States and give me... But an outline of the United States but give me but but but an outline of the united states but all like all the states the lines are drawn but none of the names of the states are filling just let me fill in the name oh you're just filling in names and let me cook let me cook i'll fill i'll get how many could you get i think i could get all of them i could do the whole thing i'd have to end with like kansas and like nebraska and stuff because i always nebraska's east of kansas listen i'm in my 40s i've lived in this country my whole life
Starting point is 01:23:50 i think i could do all 50 i think contiguous and uh no i couldn't do speaking of nebraska speaking of nebraska yeah can i go yeah good segue well i mean scott scott schultz i'm sorry i'm burying the tape in the end of the episode where everybody's left by now. But Scott Schultz, since April 2020, 420, this is his first batch since then. He put out a batch of three on Timble Tapes. You think everyone stopped listening by now? No. Just us.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Can I just say something real quick before you go? Yeah. Please listen. Please listen. Please listen to to my podcast please listen to my podcast i'm gonna play dave's tape next i know i know it's silly i know it's silly to on the podcast that nobody's listens to to say please listen to it but please listen to my podcast yeah and if you if you have any kind of sway with anybody who does dungeon Dungeon Synth? Send tapes over. Send tapes.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Joe wants your tapes. You've got that luxury lead tape from Crash Symbols. Take a copy. We all want one thing. Yeah. Okay, Joe wants free Dungeon Synth tapes. Jamie wants that one luxury lead tape. What do you want?
Starting point is 01:25:00 Because I want people to listen to my podcast. Oh, you just want people to listen to it. Oh, okay. Jamie heard this one tape sold for $100 one time. It sold for $150 once. Well, why don't you just ask for $150? We can all ask for... Oh, you want $150? I got $150, Jamie. That's no problem. I got money.
Starting point is 01:25:15 We're all asking for anything we want. I like chasing the feeling of that. Oh, alright. I see what you're saying. I like that too. Memorabilia. Chasing the dragon, they call it. Please listen to my podcast. Alright, James, go ahead. Charles Schultz. No. That's who did Peanuts, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Chuck Schultz. Yeah. We got a tape by Alex Jacobson here. Nebraska person. Alex Jacobson is a sound artist based in Omaha, Nebraska whose audio work focuses on the plasticity of sound and aims to connect us with our
Starting point is 01:25:48 environments and situations that exist outside our current temporal, spatial experiences. See, plastic's not good for the environment, Jamie. Yeah, that's true. He warned us about sound art earlier. You did say something about sound art. These are callbacks right now. These are callbacks. So, Nebraska callback, sound art
Starting point is 01:26:04 callback. Take a look at the case for this one. I think this is a Frankensteined case. I think that there's a clear front and a semi-clear back. I see what they did. Yeah. It's like a milky, hazy back, and then a clear front. I like that. Frankenstein's not the name of the case.
Starting point is 01:26:24 It's the name of the manufacturer. And this tape is just white. It looks like all the rest of the Timble stuff. Yeah. But then that other one that we pulled out of the box was bone. It was bone. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:36 We settled on bone, right? Or taupe. I think we did that off mic, though. I know, but I'm not that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that. I didn't know. I like that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:46 I like that. So anyway, really cool. The cover's kind of scary, but that's okay. Wake me up! Nice. It's by Tiny Little Hammers. As if Tiny Little Hammers hasn't done enough for us. I like that. Give someone else a chance.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Tiny Little Hammers, their artwork is always so like cosmic and uh psychedelic and i like how on the timbal tapes it's just it's black and white yeah i like how it's black and white it's creepy it's different you're starting to creep me out so what is his apartment 2021 commutes 2022 yeah what's that mean? No clue. No clue. Art. So much to be interpreted. There's a lot to think about. There's a lot to think about. It gives you a lot. I stay up all night thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:27:29 I like stuff that makes you think. I stay up all night thinking about it. Yeah. I stay up all night thinking about it. That's the kind of art I like. That's the kind of art I like, too. All right. Well, I'm glad to see that Charles Schultz, you say his name is, does peanuts.
Starting point is 01:27:41 He's allergic to peanuts. That's a shame. It's Alex Jacobson. Alex Jacobson. And he's allergic to peanuts.'s a shame there's alex jacobson alex jacobson and he's allergic to peanuts he might be a lot of people these days i saw a picture the other day and i just want to get this i just want to say it just because i'm already saying it someone drew charlie brown naked and you could see his penis and i just thought it was inappropriate because he's a little boy i like it no no wait no no no it's not okay i don't think they're allergic to peanuts in nebr Allergic to penis? Peanuts.
Starting point is 01:28:07 That's where peanuts come from, right? Who was a peanut farmer? Jimmy Carter. They're far enough away from the coastal elites that the peanut allergies haven't caught up to them. Oh, the coastal elites? We didn't have peanut allergies as kids here. No, no. Nobody did.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Now everybody does. No, everyone does. Are you saying peanut or penis? Peanut. Okay. Don't get dirty at the end. and you're saying no one listens to this point they stop listening yeah because you get nasty every time you just get filthy i don't know where your mind goes the gutter talking about charlie brown's penis charlie brown's cartoon penis that you looked at the other day he likes noise like where did you see this it's's on the internet. On the internet.
Starting point is 01:28:45 What website? I thought it was charlierumpiness.com. I thought it was inappropriate. But you looked at it. I bet you screenshotted it. It's my homepage. It's my homepage.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Of course I'm looking at it. I don't know how to change it. All right, Joe. I'm going. I'm going to play this new tape from two friends of the show. One friend who used to do the show. I guess he's not really
Starting point is 01:29:04 a friend anymore. And then another friend of the show one friend who used to do the show i guess he's not really a friend anymore and then uh another friend of the show this is from a new batch on oxtail recordings oh you're playing both tapes no i'm just gonna play dave's tape okay yeah the other friend i didn't get the other one okay so oh so three friends one used to be a friend oh i get it now yeah okay well one used to be an acquaintance okay uh i'm gonna play the wide color tape which is a new project from dave doyan who is used to be a friend when he's not a friend of the show anymore do we want to pull up some past episodes get some dave clips oh we can get some dave clips in post yeah jay jay pull up some no right now pull up some best of dave yeah best of dave of Dave I like the art That's a classic Dave
Starting point is 01:29:46 I dig the art I dig the art I dig the art I think that was episode one That's episode one Dave Yeah He started a new project New project
Starting point is 01:29:55 New name Started from scratch Sounds the same New name Sounds exactly the same As all of his old stuff He's like I'm starting over I'm not doing
Starting point is 01:30:01 Sound Out Light anymore I'm not doing What was his old one Veils anymore i'm not doing uh what's his own veils anymore that's his guitar project he's he's like i'm not doing these other two projects that sound exactly the same i'm going to start all over with this third new project oh surprise surprise sounds exactly the same sounds modular synthesizers exactly the same here we go oh that sounded just like Dave. I realized I was playing that on the wrong computer.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I'm not sure if that'll record. Hello, computer. Art by Jesse Doyen. This one's still on media.tinymixtapes.com. I thought you were moving on that over.
Starting point is 01:30:34 I believe... You know what? Should we call Dave now? I believe he has... There's a story maybe behind this artwork. I think there is, too.
Starting point is 01:30:43 It might have to do with artificial intelligence i feel like he used ai i think he did scrub ahead in the uh tab well what's his name justin justin right there he is there's everything from that label that's me glossy stuff yeah i was gonna say oh there we go well i'm gonna get fingerprints all over this that's all right that's all right you That's alright I'll clean those up Hear that in the wash I've heard that laugh a long time
Starting point is 01:31:09 That was episode 5 Very good, classic 2012 Thirsted Moore, Drip House Dwayne Pitchray, Forensics Sonic Victimization Unit It's Joe From Tabs Out Forensics. Sonic Victimization Unit.
Starting point is 01:31:25 It's Joe. From Tabs Out. Tabs Out? Yeah. You're live. What's up? You're live. We're playing your tape.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Who, me? Yeah, who, me? Can you talk about it? Talk about what? Your new tape. We're playing it right now. Ask him how he got the artwork. There's something about the art.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Tell me about the art. I hear you dig it. I're playing it right now. Ask him how he got the artwork. There's something about the art. Tell me about the art. I hear you dig it. I dig the art, yeah. You put the ear part to the mic, not the mouth part. It's on speakerphone. Which part do you want me to put on to the mic? This part? The bottom, yeah. I'm a top man. Didn't AI make the art, Dave? AI made the idea for the art.
Starting point is 01:32:03 What happened? You're killing art, the arts you're killing art you're killing art my goal my musical goal my life goal is to kill art speak on that
Starting point is 01:32:16 kill it dead this kind of book ends with the sound art I think I did pretty good if you listen to my tapes you'll probably say I don't get art I think I did pretty good. If you listen to my tapes, you'll probably say I don't get art. That sounds pretty good. All right.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Well, thanks for your time. And then nobody will like art anymore. Well, I dig the art, Dave. Good job, Dave. I like it too. Yeah, I like it a whole lot. And I like you, and I like Mike. Who else is there? Jamie. Jamie's here. I'm sitting here all cheap, buddy. I like it, too. Yeah, I like it a whole lot. And I like you, and I like Mike. Who else is there?
Starting point is 01:32:46 Jamie. Jamie's here. I'm sitting here all cheap, buddy. Jamie's all right. Jamie's all right. Sometimes. He's got his ups and downs. And I like Mike Nigro because he put it out for me.
Starting point is 01:32:56 He did. Along with Max Gamble's tape. Did you guys listen to Max's tape yet? It was really good. I didn't get a copy of that yet. Didn't get a copy of it. But I think Oxtail does have U.S. distribution. Ooh, U.S. distribution. Dave's on Spotify now. Picture him rolling.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Yeah. You can see my ugly mug on there. Yeah, your little picture and everything. I screenshotted it. Save that for later. Save it. I like to look at it, you know. I can't believe I couldn't see! What else are you guys doing today?
Starting point is 01:33:25 Yeah, what are you doing today? What are you doing this weekend? I'm just... I'm planting clover in my backyard. Oh, instead of grass? With grass. With grass. Yeah, my dog's like...
Starting point is 01:33:37 I put grass down like a month ago, and it's already like... My dog's just pissed all over it, and it's killing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm trying to figure that out. I hear clover's better. I love when people blame their dogs.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Clove is resilient. It's resilient, yeah. I've heard that, yeah. I got a little bit of a green thumb myself, Dave. If you want me to come over and till some of that. Maybe we should play my tape back there. I got a couple tomato plants going right now. We can talk gardening another time.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Oh, you guys don't want to talk about gardening now? No. Well, I'll call you back. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Bye. What happened was AI generated that art.
Starting point is 01:34:20 And then his wife painted it. Then a human painted it. Painted it. Yeah, I see what happened there. Whose wife? Allegedly. No, Dave's wife. Dave's wife painted it. Then a human painted it. Yeah, I see what happened there. His wife. Allegedly. No, Dave's wife. Dave's wife.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Jessie Doyen. Yeah. And then Oxtail Records released it. Released the art. Along with Dave's tape. Which is art. Which sounds exactly like all of his old stuff. All the other art that Dave's made.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yeah, so like, imagine a synthesizer making ambient music yeah exactly a modular synthesis we get it so it costs a little bit more it costs more dave has that large wingspan so he always has the long rig oh he's got the big one yeah yeah yeah he's got you know big arms long arms yeah he got you gotta keep it long he can't be like this like real tight jamie he's good he actually only has three modules yeah but it's ergonomic yeah yeah well you know spread out they keep those there's modular synth uh pirates they keep their cases kind of facing them so sometimes they'll have just like the mixer all the way to their left yeah one like kind of like an oscillator in the middle yep and then they'll just kind of have like a pencil sharpener all the way to the right and then
Starting point is 01:35:24 kind of just like you know sharpen a pencil make a few notes turn that turn the volume on they're reaching and they're looking but nothing's there the middle is all just they that's just yes packing peanuts in there yeah you ever see the drummer from battles he's got that one symbol way up high really no yeah it's like so high i could picture david all right that's what I'm playing. Yeah. What are you going to play to take us out? I was going to end it.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Oh, go eat it now! Go eat it now. Unlimited salad. Hooray! Oof. I'm pumped now. You guys want to play some football? Pop quiz, Joe B.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I'm going to lift some weights, actually. What is Tetreon? Tetreon.reon yes that's what tetris was going to be called first and then they said it was too long you should know this i should know what tetreon is tetreon plop quiz oh like is it some sort of particles from star track that involve time travel a subatomic particle that's a tachyon that can only exist in subspace environments okay so i was kind of right uh if you knew any more about it you would know that like beverly crusher investigated i was kind of right i said
Starting point is 01:36:30 star trek yeah you did yeah okay i got it right tetreon tapes you did very good i thought you would get that tetreon tape sent us a package the other day let me see it there you go i love their logo it's a little ray gun it's like a 19 would you stop playing the old episode in the background who is this mall walker mall walker it's a punk band from buffalo new york oh good city this is um a tape that came out what is this oh yeah all the j cards on this label have an extra flap it's a silly. I think they call them silly folds. Patent pending. Wow.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Yeah, a little extra. No, the flap has to fold back in under the tape. I don't get it. Take the tape out. Fold the extra. It's like a C card. Fold in the silly flap. G card.
Starting point is 01:37:18 That's a myth. Wow. You can actually get this tape. I find this very... I don't know why I find this very funny, but you can get it for four payments of $1.25, which I have to say, if you're buying tapes on a layaway, it's $5 or $4.25 payments. You could just...
Starting point is 01:37:43 As your financial advisor, I'd recommend not getting yourself in unnecessary debt like that. Stop playing old episodes because it's confusing to me. These are recordings from 2018 and 2019 compiled on their
Starting point is 01:38:00 first physical release as a memorial for the late Sarah Danger Underhill. And the first available at her memorial gig in baltimore in uh february of this past year the the tape is called danger after the singer who passed away unfortunately um but it's uh it's a it's a solid tape um and i'm a i'm a cool dad so i'm playing you know i got kids i'm playing i don't care there's a song called shit talk i don't care okay i'm cool dad you're cool dad. So I'm playing. You know, I got kids. I'm playing. I don't care. There's a song called Shit Talk. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:38:26 I'm a cool dad. You're a cool dad, yeah. Shit Talk. Shit Talk. Shit Talk. Then you start talking about, like, fucking in the wet spot and stuff. It's like, come on. Come on.
Starting point is 01:38:36 And you were listening to this at dinner. I'm listening to this at dinner with my kids and my family. Why do you listen to this at dinner? This is personal. Because this is family time. And I'm cool. Because I'm the cool dad. His kids are cool.
Starting point is 01:38:47 They come out. Yeah, they do come out. But do they like it? But you know what? I got my limits. Yeah. All right, don't. Come on.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Give me a little bit of warning. Just when you send me a tape, just be like, listen. Okay. When you send me the tape. I just like to know where the line is. Because naked Charlie Brown, cool. No, I said that was not cool. I said it was not cool.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Listen. Here's the thing. Cartoon peckers. Stop sending me like bags of like what is that it's like weed like weed gummies that people possibly people don't send me that stuff anymore in an alien yeah stop sending me that who said this it could be just a regular gummy bear don't knock you want to split it i don't i don't want that stuff anymore we put in the trash can oh so i'll send me that but if you if it's going to be any tapes sometimes there's some tapes and like all of a sudden somebody will come in and just start talking about some weird shit. And it's like, come on.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I'm at dinner with my family here. I'm trying to have a regular dinner with my family. Yeah. All right. You can keep it clean. Keep it clean for my family. I'm a cool dad. You're cool, man.
Starting point is 01:39:43 We know you're cool. But I have my limits. Charlie Brown's penis is my limit. I'm a cool dad. You're cool, man. We know you're cool. I have my limits. Charlie Brown's penis is my limit. Everyone loves the police. In wet spots. What did I do? All right, Mall Walker, Danger on Tetreon Tapes number 28. Awesome label.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Bunch of crazy punk stuff. I don't know why it reminded me so much of like early weird lookout record stuff or like lookout adjacent stuff like like a label that would put out like a pinhead gunpowder 10 inch or something uh but i've got that vibe from it but all right episode number what is it i didn't 189 189 wake me up in the can I don't know. so uh Oh, my God. Come on! Exit Exit Exit Exit Exit Exit Exit I'm going to try to get a better view of the road. so
Starting point is 01:42:35 so I'm sorry. so so so Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. so so so so I'm going to go ahead and get the camera. so Let's go. I'm going to go back to the so I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a break. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I am the one who is the best. Thank you. so we ¶¶ I'm sorry. Every night at the bar You cross your legs and you talk like a star Six drinks and maybe a twirl You call my name and it feels like a dog Six drinks in Make me a dwarf You pull my gang and it feels like a curse High-tech Your shit
Starting point is 01:56:54 High-tech Get with it High-tech I'm sick High-tech Now fix it On the street, high-tips, down 50 Every night at the bar You close your eyes and you talk like a star
Starting point is 01:57:29 The straightening is worse You saw my day, it feels like a pain I take your shit I take your women I take, I take, still living I take, I take, I take, still living Thank you Thank you so much for having us Thanks to everyone who's played Everyone who's about to play
Starting point is 01:58:39 This is great It's our last song It's the cover. I love to kiss dancers I wanna marry a two-piece dancer I wanna love a Toe Deceptor I wanna know the worth of my salvation Go on and watch Toe Deceptors, yeah Build up these feet, don't shut your eyes Because there's everyone in the train
Starting point is 01:59:47 And you don't get no fire, no You're just like a fire You throw everyone to a TV Can I separate? I love to dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance
Starting point is 02:00:15 I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance
Starting point is 02:00:23 I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I wanna dance I'm a human, I'm a human, I'm a human, yeah It's a me that needs a hug I'm a man that's not caring And I ain't got to be a man I love to disaster I wanna marry a disaster I want another one like the last Who's on the wood to the justice
Starting point is 02:01:06 Yeah, I love wood to the justice I want a million to the justice I want another one like the last one Who's on the wood to the justice Yeah, I love wood to the justice I want a million to the justice I want another one like the last one For the world, children's doctor
Starting point is 02:01:30 Yeah! Thank you. We're Mall Walker. Thanks. Yeah. It's got a cool YouTube lady on it. Yeah, we're back. We're back.
Starting point is 02:02:09 I'm going to say this just because Jamie already made me feel so stupid and bad by saying no one listens at this point. So I don't feel bad by saying this. No one stayed to the end. Stop playing old episodes in the background. So I sent you both a text message after the last episode. Who, me? Yes. Because I noticed that a member of the smashing pumpkins liked oh yeah the new guys well here's the thing it's not it's not james eha when i send i know it
Starting point is 02:02:34 wasn't billy corgan yeah okay i thought that was cool stuff i'd send this to my wife uh-huh i'm like oh look at this this is pretty cool remember the smashing pumpkins like the uh the instagram post about the latest episode and she sends a message back right away which she never sends me a message back right away ever this one i get a message the bubbles pop up right away oh it just says it's not even an original member yeah it's like the new person and i was like all right never mind I'll just stop doing the no one listens. He's probably like 25. There's nothing inside.

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