Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #193 | 11.9.23

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

Larry Wish stops by to clown around. Plus tapes! Dania, Wicked Piss, Jim Rats, Living Room, Larry Wish, Wolf Dad, The Gate, Organized Cream, Justice League of America, & John Swana...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 My little niece here is into electronic music. Tweeters, woofers, heavy metal. Tabs out. Cassette podcast episode 193. He can't even do that, right? Cassette. Wouldn't it be cool to have a niece into, because my family is super fucking basic.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Wouldn't it be cool to have an electronic music niece just to make holidays fun you all right joe oh i'm fine i go to my family i go to friggin family reunions my grandfather's the farmer my mom's the baker my dad's the farmer my grandfather what's he farm corn corn he's a corn man i didn't know italians farmed corn But I want to follow around my niece But what are you listening to, Susan? What's in the earbuds? Boards of Canada?
Starting point is 00:01:12 That's the deal Uncle Mike's the name Oh, you never met her before? No, this is the first time I'm meeting her And I really want to hit it off well Okay And let them know that I also listen to, I like electronic. What were the things that they liked?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Whatever. Let's play it again. What was the list of things? Oh, yeah. My little niece here is into electronic music. Tweeters, woofers, heavy metal. Ooh, heavy metal. And tweeters and woofers.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Talk about tweeters and woofers and boards of Canada. Jamie Orlando. Yeah. This episode for you. First of all, my mic, I'm going to say sounds like shit right now. Which is really bad for you. I'm not touching it though. Because this is a bit of an apologetic episode for you.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Oh, we should mention that sound clip was sent in by Larry Wish. LarryWish.com. Oh, really? He's got the.com? I think so. Oh, big money. I assume so. No, I'm parking it. He'll be joining us later and he can try to buy that from me if he wants. Actually, go to LarryWish.com right now and see what it is. I'm a little scared to do that.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Do it on your old computer. He's got a new one out on Orange Milk, right? That's right. It's right here. Site cannot be reached. Yeah, I'm parking it. Yeah. You're supposed to be apologizing Because the last episode
Starting point is 00:02:25 You fucked up We finally got a real guest This time we got Larry Wish Academic I'm sure we'll record that perfectly fine We had a real guest last time We had Mark Masters Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:35 Author of What is that? High Fidelity? What's the name of his book? I brought it right here Oh High Bias High Bias By Mark Masters
Starting point is 00:02:43 The Distorted History of the Cassette Tape. Wow. Let me see that thing. Is this how far you are so far? Is this bookmark? All right, not that far. Well, I'm a bit of a slow reader. Oh, a little blurb from Patton Oswalt on the back.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. That's impressive. Yeah, so we finally get something like that on here. You flood the recording. We don't record any of it. We don't let him talk at all you ruin it jamie i think i salvaged it reasonably based on how bad we know it was i think to the listener they didn't perceive it to be so bad but please no i talked to someone who listened to it and they said uh you did a primo job okay but they don't know how good it should have been it should have been our big break until it being a real podcast instead it still sounds
Starting point is 00:03:29 like shit that sounded like shit well you know what i i did prepare an apology i did apologize last episode but i have an even more formal apology are you guys ready to hear this yeah oh you want to do it right you want to apologize right now should i or do you want to you know i could do later shame me i just figured the listeners might want me to just apologize, get everything, clear the air. Yeah. Yeah. I want you to apologize.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Okay. Who are you apologizing to? Me? Well, I got a letter prepared. All right. Oh, a letter. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Okay. Yeah. Let me turn that down a little bit. What's that? That's the band Prick. Remember Prick? Oh. All right. Okay. Here's my apology. Too scary. Is the band Prick. Remember Prick? All right.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Okay, here's my apology. Too scary. Is the music, is the balance pretty good? Yeah. Dear Mike, Joe, Matt. Hold on, stop. That's not our job.
Starting point is 00:04:15 This is what the whole thing's about. First of all, my mic sounds like I'm in Oscar the Grouch's trash cans. And that's not our job to decide if the balance is good. Go ahead. First of all, I'm Mike.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Oh, I'm Joe. I'm Jamie. Dear Mike, Joe, Maddie, Ryan, Mark Masters, and our esteemed listeners, I would like to extend my sincerest apologies for the shortcomings evident in last episode. The events that transpired made me a sweaty mess
Starting point is 00:04:45 and caused my insides to be so torn up that I had three distinct diarrhea sessions after returning home. I threw away the chair that he was... The chair that Jamie uses, I had to throw it away. I like that they were distinct. Distinct. They were like...
Starting point is 00:04:57 Each one was diarrhea, but a different kind. Sessions. Three sessions. He got a virus. Prior to presenting my formal apology, I wish to share a formal statement crafted by Ryan Mosteller, which encapsulates the genuine essence of the apology.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Alright, are you ready for this? I'm ready. I'm on the edge of my seat. From Ryan Mosteller, dear Tabs Out listeners, I wish to offer my sincere apologies for Tabs Out episode 192, wherein your favorite podcast hosts gave a somewhat lackluster interview to Mark Masters, author of High Bias,
Starting point is 00:05:29 The Distorted History of the Cassette Tape. While many are stridently calling out Jamie Orlando for forgetting to press record or something, the bulk of the blame should actually be placed squarely on my shoulders. See, while I'm cassette music's foremost documentarian journalist, I'm not often asked to join the podcast team on air. Maybe it's my general standoffishness or my lack of quick-witted humor, or even the fact that I'm never high on weed when I'm patched in through Zoom.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But regardless of whatever bullshit excuse Mike and the boys come up with to leave me out of it, the fact remains that I'm an infrequent guest at best. So, it was to my delight that I was an infrequent guest at best. So, it was to my delight that I was asked to join the podcast for a Mark Masters episode. I was lucky enough to have been interviewed by Mark for his book. Remember, I'm Cassette Music's foremost documentarian journalist, after all. In which, I have much
Starting point is 00:06:17 more page space than any Tabs Out member, especially Joe B. Ha ha. But why I was really asked to join the podcast was due to something i really had in common with tabs out we were both misrepresented in the book now it's easy to mistake tabs out home base of delaware for connecticut no real differentiating features has happened in the book but it was much more egregious for a misspelling of my last name mastel r ending with an ar instead of mast of Mestel-ER with an E-R, to get through copy, editing, and proofreading stages. But it is my intention to absolve them
Starting point is 00:06:52 of all blame now and forever. The Mestel-R curse has once again struck and Mark Masters was its unwitting recipient before it trickled down to the utterly innocent Jamie Orlando. Jamie, stop. Stop this. Stop this. this stop this i don't know what you're turning this into stop this song too you're gonna get this whole podcast taken down you're pretty i don't know i still got more i don't know what this is turning into i thought he was supposed to apologize to me and you yeah but then this letter is pretty aggressive this is very i feel like i'm being threatened and i feel like jamie's being let off the hook i feel like you were supposed to apologize for fucking up the episode, Jamie. Well, this is an interjection in my apology letter.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I don't like it. Okay. The Mesteller curse goes back to colonial America, as my ancestors, who probably came over on the German equivalent of the Mayflower or something, hit the free soil of what was to become the United States and promptly tripped over themselves in documenting their identities with, I don't know, a trick quill or invisible ink or some other clownish proto-Three Stooges pratfall. Thus, the Mestellers, Mostellers, Marstellers, and however many variations there were of us, probably just those three, dispersed up and down the eastern seaboard. One of them even served honorably in the American Revolution. Colonel Philip Marsteller was such a good friend to George Washington that he was chosen as a pallbearer at
Starting point is 00:08:02 his first and greatest president's funeral. What is going on right now? Surely some of them spelled their name with an AR, simply first in a long line of fuck-ups. So basically, had I not been involved in this book, Mark Masters would likely spelled everyone's name perfectly, completely negating the need for this discussion. Tabs out would have been located correctly on a map and the vibe going into the interview would have been much less contentious. Jamie would have been much more relaxed, much less sweaty, and much more likely to charge his battery or press record or whatever, since he knew inherently that nothing could possibly go wrong. It thus would not have taken three tries to interview Mark.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Mike would have been a lot funnier than he was. Joby would have been present and the interview would have probably been much better than it turned out. It probably would have been good, probably. So in in the end i regret my role in this mess i offer you all my apologies for being born in the first place thereby directly affecting nay ruining tabs out episode 192 and potentially the entire series sincerely ryan misteller entire series okay ready jamie's apology letter continues oh this isn't even done yet we're in like 20 minutes in all right it's just a paragraph okay in conclusion specifically i extend my apologies to mark masters for this for the inconvenience caused by three separate interview attempts ryan i deeply regret the technical issues that resulted in your absence from the episode to joe i apologize for
Starting point is 00:09:23 any frustration you experienced leading to your departure from the room. Maddie, I greatly appreciate your understanding and assure you of my utmost respect. And as for Mike, asshole, you owe me a shitload of money and two very rare luxury elite tapes and you'll be hearing from my lawyer soon. With sincerest regards, Jamie Orlando tabs out.
Starting point is 00:09:41 This is not what I was expecting. I want you to say I'm sorry. And I left the room just to let you cook. I know. Let me cook with Mark Massey. I didn't want my body heat to make it even more hot in here. And just so everyone knows, there was no pressure today on the episode,
Starting point is 00:09:55 and Jamie still can't figure it out. He's still missing it. Okay. Well, you have, I see you brought the high bias book. Yeah. Do you also have the soundtrack? I do. Is it called a soundtrack?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Oh, let me see that. I didn't know about that. It's a tape that comes... That's because when we were talking... Maybe it's a soundtrack. You left the room. Yeah, is it a soundtrack? Or is it just a book that a company...
Starting point is 00:10:17 I think it's a companion piece. It's a companion piece, yeah. Does it have a separate name? No. I noticed it has the same cover from the book except instead of saying the distorted history of the cassette tape it says music from the book what does that mean music from the book well i think all these labels are talked about at some point in the book like do they talk about these they mention these specific songs probably not
Starting point is 00:10:41 music from the book probably not so the track that i'm going to play is the first track on the b-side from a label called geographic north do you guys know that label i think i've heard of that label i think that people have heard of it but now i'm going to bring it to to light they do very interesting layout designs with their j cards like little doilies like little interesting delicate little uh am i am i wrong here jamie no maybe some of them are like folded interesting ways there's a little several pieces of paper thrown in to create like uh am i am i wrong i don't know i'm just i'm playing along oh so you don't know not really well look them up google i mean i did i have one of their releases i have a release of
Starting point is 00:11:25 theirs by keone it was interesting because a lot of the other labels i am quite familiar with that's why i wanted to play some geographic north geographic north it's a little bit of a blind spot for me now i'm going to play an artist called dania this is geographic north 69 jimmy play a sample i can't hear your samples. Oh, no. That's spooky music. I hear that. Now I'm scared. So how does this work? Does each label just have one track or does some have several?
Starting point is 00:11:51 I think each label just has one track. Okay. So what do we have? Like orange milk. So who does orange milk? They represent Giant Claw. Of course, Giant Claw. Yeah, it's like when Dick Cheney had to pick Bush's VP.
Starting point is 00:12:01 He's like, it's going to be me. It's like, oh, who from orange Milk are we going to pick in here? And Keith's like, oh, probably me, right? Probably me. Good Dick Cheney joke. Oh, Nolzone, Michael Potter, of course. The proprietor of the label. Yeah, what is this?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Who else is on here? Timble Tapes. Tiny, tiny tongues. Well, that's just because Scott, who runs Timble Tapes, does he have a tape on Timble Tapes? I don't think so. So he was forced to pick someone else i'll sue mountain pick mothcock they didn't have to yeah they could
Starting point is 00:12:30 have dug in deep into the sack and got an old goodwill smith track but they're or like uh what's the max and doug duo doug and max or um what's that called uh the collage art stuff i forget what it's called that's how you do it. You pick somebody else. Me. It's going to be me. So yeah, Dania, I don't know. That's why I wanted to play Dania.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's Dania Shihab. And that's all the information there is. That's all she wrote. You didn't get any other information? I guess I could go to the Geographic North band camp. I went to the Discogs only. You could do anything, Jamie. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:13:02 This is shit. For an apology episode, you're handling this like complete and utter bullshit. Like God has said. Well, Ryan Mosteller fell on his sword for me. Don't you think that's noble? Yeah, it was in the toilet water. He seemed very angry in that letter.
Starting point is 00:13:16 All right, Dania was born in Baghdad, raised in Tasmania, and now based in Barcelona. Now Dania presents her solo debut, Vaz, which finds her rediscovering her voice as a primary instrument. Created using a smattering of looped and layered vocals, instrumental samples,
Starting point is 00:13:30 modular synthesis, cassette tapes, and piano. I love when they smatter it. I think I'm going to play the Wicked Piss tape after that. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Is that cool? That's a good transition. I like when you take something like this, you take just a smattering of modular synth with a voice as my primary instrument.
Starting point is 00:13:46 All right, Joe B., you want to play that wicked piss tape? What are you playing, Joe B.? Diarrhea diaper? Oh, wow, you went TT in the potty. This person... You know, the one on colon sorcery. I believe it's on gay hippie vampire. The colon sorcery. I believe it's on gay hippie vampire.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Colon sorcery. Or is it colon sorcerer? Sorcery. Yeah, sorcery. I haven't used it yet. My doctor did prescribe me colon sorcerer. I don't want to get into why, all right? Can you hand that over here?
Starting point is 00:14:20 I'm glad you're playing. Yeah. Get some scary stuff going. Look at the logo on the spine. Made of bones. I know. Gay Hippie Vampire sent two tapes. Well, they sent six tapes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Your Honor.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I know I'm under oath. They sent six tapes, but only two different ones, if that makes sense. Three of each? Yeah. But they both have the same spine that like... I'm probably gonna play Scar Licker off the A side. If that's cool. Now what kind, what scar do you think it is? If you ask me,
Starting point is 00:14:51 it's gotta be a C-section. It's gotta be a C-section. I thought it was gonna be more of a circumcision. You mentioned my name. Jamie, now you have to do one. You have to name a scar. That you're going to lick. That you're going to lick.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Do one, Jamie. You know what? I changed my mind, Jamie. I'm not playing scar licker. You're playing anal geyser? No, prostate orgasm. That's going to be the third track on the A side. This is going to make me go TT in the potty.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Oh, wow. You went TT in the potty. wow you went tt in the potty who is wicked piss i don't know who wicked piss is scary jamie with the scariness in the background please because like i said we miss halloween we didn't get to do a halloween episode i guess i'm gonna do a post halloween episode i wasn't at first but i think i am now i'm gonna do one too yeah you want to leave we're gonna leave jamie out of it. Well, he's probably in the serious one. Yeah, I mean the whole episode. Oh, the whole rest of the episode
Starting point is 00:15:48 we're leaving Jamie out. We'll do, we'll leave, we'll beam you, we'll do all of it. I only, I have a couple. I have a couple. I got more if you need them. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:15:56 They're scary? All right. I'm scared of them. I know. Too scary. All right. Jamie, look up who Wicked Piss is. The Children's Hospital.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Call me the source. I don't want to type Wicked Piss in my computer. Just type Wicked Piss in your computer. Do it in the one that's going to stay here. Wicked Piss. It's not staying here yet, buddy. Go on private. Put private browsing on. I don't know how to do that. I've never done that before. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:16:20 How do you do that? How do you do private browsing? Wicked Piss is not present on Discogs, but they are on a compilation supporting trans youth and their families. But we don't know who it is? We don't know who it is. All right, I'm going to do two scary ones.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Is it on Gay Hippie Vampire? Yes. Let me look at it from the bandy camp. Look at this. I had Wicked Piss in my pile. Oh, you did? Yeah. I'm going to do...
Starting point is 00:16:44 You can play the other one. I'll do two ones that are seemingly probably scary to go Look at this. I had Wicked Piss in my pile. Oh, you did? Yeah. I'm going to do... You can play the other one. I'll do two ones that are seemingly probably scary to go along with this. Okay. And one has another funny name that I like. I think it's funny. It's Jim Ratz. Jim Ratz. Nice.
Starting point is 00:16:56 J-I-M. James Ratz. Like, short for James Ratz. James L. Ratz. Yeah. By the way, I'm deducing here that Wicked Piss is Marsha Fisher. Okay, good. This is on no rent.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It's a new one. I believe 176. Is that what they're up to? No rent. Just putting out that noise. Just putting out that noise. This is very pink tape. It's just pink all over.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Pink cover. Pink shell. But I just can't get over that Jim Ratz. Jim Ratz. Yeah. I saw that name and I just thought, huh. And this next one, I don't even want to show you guys the cover because it is too scary.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Man got his head blown half quarter off. Oh, is this some snuff stuff? Yeah. I don't know why. Why don't you go play with your electronic toys like a good little girl? But this is on the Dayton label Bizarro Warrior. I played a tape by them a few episodes back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:47 This is Living Room, which this is going to be harsh noise. It's like, how many tracks are on here? Living Room. That's Matthew Rhys, I think, right? Oh, buddy. Buddy. It's full of musical instruments. You think you can get away with making a tape this frigging harsh?
Starting point is 00:18:02 53. Give me some fucking back and track jamie for this this is gonna get harsh 53 undialed tracks ranging from one second to over a minute of harsh no this is matthew fred stew trevor justin angelo fink and RJ. It took... It took eight motherfucking people. How big was that mixer? We couldn't have done it here. I bet you they all just stood outside the room.
Starting point is 00:18:33 The living room? Jamie's brought it back around. We make him apologize. Jamie, stop! We make him apologize sometimes, but we keep him around for that no it took eight people to make what it like it's like thanks for coming over stew and they are like i imagine this situation don't you think
Starting point is 00:18:56 one of them has to leave with the wrong suitcase full of gear and they get home and they're like can't they're like wait a minute one two three four five six seven eight i had nine death metal pedals oh i got fucking this is sphinx suitcase looks on the outside and says like we'll fuck for harsh noise it's no that's what well they all say they all say that everyone has that sticker god we should put a different sticker on with the sticker was so funny though um so yeah i'm gonna play something something from the Living Room intellectual shit on Bizarro Warrior. And that Jim Ratz and the Wicked Piss. Wicked Piss. Halloween block, my friend.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And then Jamie, what are you doing? I got some Dania. That's just some ambient music. We're kicking it off in the best possible way. It is a good show. Bye. I'm going to go ahead and turn it off. I love you. I love you. I'm sorry. I am I am I am
Starting point is 00:21:34 I am I am I am I am Let the dark pass away so I am and I will be Thank you. And I'll come and come. Thank you. The the the the the the
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Starting point is 00:28:54 I'm just a little bit of a fool. I'm just a little bit of a fool. I'm just a little bit of a fool. I'm just a little bit of a fool. I am the one who is inside. South Carolina The The Thank you. ah Thank you. so I'm going to get you! Oh Oh I'm sorry. so wow Dude, what's your band sound like? My butt hole. I'm not sure if I'm going to go to the next one. so Oh And we're back. Yeah, we are back. Danya from the high bias music from the book.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Jury's still out on whether that's music from the book, if you ask me. I've heard of books on tape, but a book on tapes? Who still uses CDs? I mean, I've heard it all. Then Wicked Piss. Let him sweat. let him sweat wicked piss colon sorcerer on gay hippie vampire filed by Jim rats that's that's actually my lawyer don't be me he actually it took him until he was 34 years old and somebody was like that
Starting point is 00:36:40 name so funny he was like what do you mean they're like Jim rats like a gym rat he was like oh I never thought about? They're like gym rats, like a gym rat. And he was like, oh, I never thought about it. I never thought about it. And I go to the gym all the time. Perfuser on No Man. Be a man. And then Living Room, intellectual shit on Bizarro Warrior.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And now, Joe B, if you had three wishes, what would one of your wishes be? And you can't wish for more wishes. You can't wish for more wishes. Okay. The three of us have three wishes. You first i'll go second and then jamie
Starting point is 00:37:09 can go left to not have diabetes anymore your wish is not a diabetes anymore i'd say my wish is one hour sex with cindy croft 2023 cindy crawford yeah no Megan, turn that down for one hour. What was she in that Coca-Cola ad or something? No diabetes. No, thank you. One hour sex with Jimmy Crawford. Who's Jimmy?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Jimmy Crawford. He's like an organ player from the 60s. Oh, Jimmy Crawford. He can really hit those keys. Really grind that organ. So no diabetes. One hour sex with Cindy Crawford, he can really hit those keys. Really grind that organ. So no diabetes, one hour of sex with Cindy Crawford. Jamie, you have to wish for...
Starting point is 00:37:50 Oh, I wish for Larry Wish. That's good. Here we go. Hey! Turn him up. Hey, we gotta turn you up. Am I loud? Am I hot?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, you're a little hot. You Am I hot? Yeah, you're hot. He's a little hot. You talking to me? No. No, Mr. Wish. Tut, tut, tut, tut, tut. Are we calling you Larry or are we calling you Adam? Or Mr. Wish?
Starting point is 00:38:11 Mr. Wish. Ooh, 50-50 is good. Ooh, or 50-50-50. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, Larry Wish is part of my legal name at this point. So Adam or Larry or Wish or anything is good. Okay. Jamie, you going to figure out that hum, my friend? You guys can hear or anything is good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Jamie, you going to figure out that hum, my friend? You guys can hear that too. Yeah. Unfortunately, we can all hear it. Yeah. Larry, just to catch you up, this is Jamie's apology episode for doing such a shitty job recording the last interview.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So, yeah, do you have any... I'll throw in some apologies too oh is it yeah is there anyone why we got you here is there anyone you need feel like you need to uh apologize to off the bat and then we'll well then we'll say a little bit about who you are maybe what labels you've worked with but before we get to that jam Jamie, over the hum of Jamie, whose camera just went out. This thing is so finicky. Tech. Tech is wild.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. It's a wild ride. Tech is hard, it seems. Larry, wish you have the floor. Who would you like to apologize to? Or is there someone you want an apology from? Oh, you know what? Let me get out the piece of paper with all the names.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I'm going to go with my son uh know me um i don't need an apology from him i would like to formally apologize to him um because you know he's a little seven month old guy and yesterday i was zipping up his jammies and i caught a bit of his chest skin it was a sad moment different skin and then did you just keep going different like we're gonna get through this i stopped because he yelled and it was it was shocking ah you know what's uh i did not follow through the um the track that i'm gonna play today for you actually is the track know me from your latest tape oh that's awesome yeah well but or you can play it or i could just sing it whoa well i don't
Starting point is 00:40:05 know if we could hear it over this home that jamie can't get rid of this in hum i tried wiggling all the cables around i think there's something that's causing some some interference here oh you think there's something that's causing some interference good thing you went to college yeah the government the government so it's good enough right so let's pull up a Discogs page here for our guests the least we can do let's do rate your music instead
Starting point is 00:40:33 it's going to be a little more you'll get some more facts I think I got a song for you to sing too yeah we could do a bit of karaoke. Yeah. Yeah. Once there was a boy child trapped inside an elevator, this is the weird Al version. When he put on his shirt each day, the shirt was grosser and grosser.
Starting point is 00:41:20 He said, why don't I clean it? What possibly could go wrong? Stick, bleep, stick, bleep, swap, bleep, bleep. Well, that drowned out the buzz. Maybe we could just play that in the background. You won't hear that buzz. Yeah, why don't you just play it, Larry? That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:41:48 My voice, my lips can be this close to the mic, maybe. Here, give me a Larry Wish hit. Give me, yeah, here. You sing to your own music right now. Unmute the tape deck and have it down real low. This is how you fix this, okay? Jesus Christ. This is what I'm talking about with him.
Starting point is 00:42:05 He's not a solutions man. He's not a solutions man. He's not a solutions man. I'm a solutions man. I like that character. Solutions man. Solutions man. Solutions. His music isn't really tough enough to drown out the buzz. But Larry Wish, according to Discogs, has been composing proggy bedroom pop since
Starting point is 00:42:21 2007. With over 50 albums, including releases on labels such as orange milk moon glyph and bumpy Larry wish your real name is Adam is Larry what is that look what is that a silly character you're trying to play what are you trying to do make fun of me does Larry wish run bumpy or does Adam run bumpy yes it was started as a character when I started using that moniker back in 2009 in in my head like it was like a boy of you know whatever age doesn't really matter but every day would be his first day of school kind of in like a groundhog's day um sort of ripoff um but it
Starting point is 00:43:07 that didn't really stick there was going to be like a tv show that i wanted to start with it too which there is a pilot episode but that kind of got dropped right away and i guess they're the larry wish character over the course of the years it started off being like someone very like anxiety ridden and uh sort of like somewhat unhinged or just like uncomfortable all the time that that stuff has like pretty much shed all the way at this point what do you mean a tv show what was the tv show it was just going to be called called the Larry wish show and you said you filmed like a pilot episode yeah we made a pilot episode and we we my friend Sam Kramer and I who plays bass in in Larry wish and his guys and the guy from Seinfeld we we like recorded one pilot episode and we uploaded it to funny or die and it might still be
Starting point is 00:44:09 there it might not be i know the version that was on the internet doesn't have the funniest two scenes that were the funniest to me so it's kind of like a you know it's a little half-baked thing but it might still be there that's what i say about all my shit too that's like yeah that's on the internet but they someone cut the funny stuff out i know it's a really good it's a safe excuse yeah i don't know how the best parts didn't make it yeah there was a two minute part in the middle and then there was a minute part in the beginning and then a really big laugh at the end and some internet hacker built a virus to take out the funny part some crazy 90s internet hacker that's what i say about all my music too is just like well you got to
Starting point is 00:44:53 listen to all the space in between the music that's where the actually good stuff is ah i see you you know the picture of you on discogs, speaking of your Discogs profile, you have a Casio keyboard. You know it's upside down, right? It's what? It's upside down. Do you guys see this? If you go to Discogs Larry Wish, that's upside down, right?
Starting point is 00:45:16 How am I getting such good sounds from it? I don't know. You should probably flip that over if you're going to play that again. Well, it makes a really good drum pad if you kind of want these really great plastic-y tones. Yeah, exactly like that. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:45:33 So before I get to Bumpy, I want to ask you about Soothing Almonds Collective because I'm seeing this over and over again. Soothing Almonds Collective. I'm just assuming, considering that you are released number 8, 11, 12, 15, 14. What is Soothing Almonds Collective?
Starting point is 00:45:55 That was just a group of artists based out of Minneapolis and St. Paul, where I live here. It was just that, a collective of musicians just making music together kind of all centered around this house called the Organ House was like a fun
Starting point is 00:46:11 little punk house and it was our first tape label run by me and my friend Sam Kramer and some others the guy from Seinfeld who is this Sam Kramer guy he's come up a lot he's wonderful he's uh you know he
Starting point is 00:46:27 plays bass in my live band um he's got a wonderful project called ob chodna cores he's just a fun wacky songwriter guy and that seems to be stuff that was like what 10 years ago that wasn't i think so yeah 2012 2013 are you still not right are you still in that area yeah yeah i've i've lived here for like 15 years i lived in wyoming for like a little stretch of time and i lived in burlington vermont for a minute so not too far away from you guys that's like eight hours away from us that's so far away he's talking midwest how much i understand about the layout of you know geography at all That's so far away. That shows you how much I understand about the layout of geography at all. That's so far away.
Starting point is 00:47:08 That's almost Canada. Hey, you might as well be in Canada at that point. So let's jump ahead to Bumpy. Yeah. So what is going on with Bumpy? Bumpy. Bumpy is wacky. I wish it was
Starting point is 00:47:24 called something else. You don't like that name, huh? Do you really not like the name Bumpy? Who doesn't? You said, I wish it was named something else. Oh, no, no, no, no. I thought that's what you guys were saying. No, I love the name. It's named after my grandfather.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And it's just a label that I started because I wanted to... Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, go back. Explain the grandfather thing. and it's just a label that i started because i wanted hold on hold on hold on hold on wait wait go back explain the grandfather thing oh yes so we called one of my grandfathers bumpy growing up obviously yeah um but why and but why he had like a bump on his nose grandpa bumpy yeah oh grandpa bumpy no no just bumpy oh just Bumpy does there need to be anything more than that no is that him
Starting point is 00:48:10 is that the logo it's like his profile no but you could definitely make that connection I did I think that's really cute Jamie likes cute stuff so what's what kind of stuff are you releasing with bumpy and like you got plans
Starting point is 00:48:27 for the 2024 yeah there are some plans right now the biggest plan is that i'm getting ready to uh release the next larry wish album on bumpy and um it's kind of like another like st prog rock singer songwriter type of an album and less like uh susa marching music and national anthems okay like what like capricorn sun is basically i was um i was talking to joe b earlier and i said capricorn sun sort of reminds me of like a rick wakeman album recorded on casio keyboards oh that's awesome i love that yeah yeah it also seems like you have a thing with clowns do you have a thing with clowns certainly yeah i have i know definitely a thing with clowns since i was a little kid because i had this like very creepy to me uh clown music box that played the
Starting point is 00:49:19 song send in the clowns um and the song was like very haunting to me as like a two or three year old made me feel really happy and really sad at the same time, which was extremely confusing. And so when I was about four or five, I smashed the music box up with a hammer and have been kind of like chasing that like bittersweet feeling in my my own music making um you know since the beginning have you tried just smashing another music box yeah let's go with the easiest the easiest possible yeah it seems like if that worked the first time why wouldn't you does sweetwater have music boxes i don't know if i end, though, if that's the thing. If that closes the portal of my music. Nobody wants that to end.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I don't want the easy way out. Oh, please. I'll take an ending. Here, I'll look on Sweetwater and see if they have music boxes. Oh, there's something for $69. I know. It's a Sonoscore Origins Volume 2 Music Box and Plucked Piano. Do you have any questions that we can...
Starting point is 00:50:26 Do you want to call, ask an expert? Can you guys order one for me? Well, let's... Are they open on the weekends? They're open 24-7. It is Sunday. I mean, it's... You're going to get a guy named Tad or Ned.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Let's call... And what are we trying to do? See if they have any... Well, let's call Sweetwater and see if they have any clown music boxes that we could possibly smash to regain kind of a feeling inside. We've lost a feeling,
Starting point is 00:50:52 and we're trying to regain it by smashing a clown music box. We want it back, and let's see if we can buy it on credit, though, on their credit system. If you know your party's extension, you may dial it now. Hello?
Starting point is 00:51:04 This is Marshall. How can I help? Hey, Marshall, do you guys have music boxes? Uh, what? Like, with, like, the clown arena lady in it? No, like, um, like with a clown. Like, the kind that you can, like, smash to regain, like, a feeling inside yourself that you haven't had since you were a boy? That, uh, definitely is not something that we carry. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So I'm not sure where you'd find such a product. All right. Thank you. Yep. Well, that answers that. Sorry, Larry. They don't have them, but they said they were going to send us some candy. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:51:39 The search continues. It's all good. So who do you deal with over at Orange Mill? Keith or Seth? The first time that I released with them was Keithith but this time around it was seth why what what happened with keith was that free willy music yeah free willy music free willy style was the first one that was like a little compilation the next one was born outside my window um i think there was like a four-way split in there somewhere who's easier to deal with over there, Seth or Keith?
Starting point is 00:52:07 When you're operating with the orange milk machine. This is going way above my head. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this. Do you even talk to them directly? Is there a silent partner at Orange Milk? They have a Sweetwater rep that I go through for everything. Okay. I think it's Marshall.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Marshall. So you call up sweetwater marshall and you say i have a new thing for orange milk i've got like a wacky clown um hyper orchestral album um and i was wondering if that would be of interest to um either keith or seth okay well yeah we'll uh we'll put that through i can't you know no promises no promises but um yeah i'll pitch it to them. Well, that sounds fun. So the new tape is called what? Capricorn Sun. Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 00:52:50 Jamie. He forgot. He had a blank look on his face. Oh, there's delay. There's no way an idiot who fucks up as much as you knew the name of his tape and he didn't. Let's try this one more time. Jamie, what is the name of this tape?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Are you asking me? Oh my God. Capricorn Sun. No, Jamie, don't say it. I'm going to cut that out. No, you can't. So the tape's called Capricorn Sun. It's a new one on orange milk.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Jamie, you already have a track picked out. I did. And how apropos that... And it's his seven-month-old? The noise went away. No, it didn't. It's leaving louder. I think I got yours. Oh, I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Oh, your headphones came on. Oh, maybe that's why. I got nothing in my headphones. Keep going. Oh, it's the sprayed wire. That's not my fault for once. Afraid not. Afraid not. All right, Larry. the uh the sound clip that you sent over what is that from that was from an episode of murder she wrote
Starting point is 00:53:53 my little niece hears into electronic music tweeters woofers heavy metal well thank you so much for sending over and thanks for thanks for spending the time with us and dealing with Jamie. And I hope we can use any of this. I just have a random question. Sorry. Can I ask him a question? Because I'm staring at this tape right behind your head. This Cabo Boing tape that came out on, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I was looking at that too. What label did that come out on? And is that Larry? Huard. No, it's not. It's definitely not Larry? No, no. No, that's Brian from Yip Yip.
Starting point is 00:54:23 But you're familiar, though though because of the clown thing yeah do you kind of track down clown noise like when you see clown noise are you kind of like huh I'm going to check that out you see a tape with a balloon on the cover and you're like well I'll check this out yeah I definitely love it I mean the first time
Starting point is 00:54:39 I played in Chicago was with Doug from Hausu Mountain and he was doing his clown core set at that point I feel like that was very inspirational that's more like of the juggalo ilk yeah oh yeah juggalo like yeah insane clown posse mixed with just like it or like pennywise some horror clown stuff so you kind of free like on that like spectrum of clowns you kind of like you know it's you you take you're taking all comers yeah i hope i fit in that spectrum of clowns, you're taking all comers. Yeah, I hope I fit in that spectrum somewhere. If there's a sort of naval, composer-esque clown,
Starting point is 00:55:12 that's the perfect niche for me. Boxcar, Wino. Pee-wee's Great Adventure. Naval clown. Have you done anything on Hasu Mountain? No, not yet, but I love all those folks. Do you want them to apologize to you right now on Hasu Mountain? No, not yet. Why do you think that is? Do you want them to apologize to you right now for not asking you?
Starting point is 00:55:34 I wanted to apologize to them for not pitching them good enough music. That's fair. Thank you. Thank you. I want the applause. Well, let's do a pitch right now. Why don't you sing them a little ditty and we'll see if we can't get it released. I mean, I'm going to say this. There's no mastering job in the world that's
Starting point is 00:55:48 going to take this hum out. That's going to take Jamie's brand humming sound. Use it then. Yeah, so use the hum. Use the hum. Okay, that's fair. We'll start with the hum and then maybe we've got like kind of an elevator jazz like...
Starting point is 00:56:04 Then the vocals little sax solo man I like it you know what I want to put this out and then a vocal sample of this isn't fire tools This is not meant to resemble Fire Tools in any way. Oh, like an audio watermark of,
Starting point is 00:56:30 this is not Fire Tools. Exactly. Every five seconds on the track that could come in. That's fair. Alright, Larry Wish, thank you for joining us. Sorry for dealing with Jamie. You know how it goes. Thanks for having me, and I hope that anything I've said was usable.
Starting point is 00:56:46 It most certainly is. Bye. He's saying, I can't believe you cut off something at the end. I'm so glad you did cut him off though. Please. We'll never know. It was the last shot
Starting point is 00:57:03 on the screen. Someone coming for him like he's getting attacked he's like please we could have saved him oh well i'm happy to not have that ringing in my ears i know my god it was so awful it was like tinnitus or something i think it's where the mixer i think it's the location of the mixer in this new spot there's some rf frequencies uh centered around that oh you know what i don't have to say frequency i think that's where the mixer, I think it's the location of the mixer in this new spot. There's some RF frequencies centered around that area. You don't have to say frequency. I think that's what the F stands for, Jamie. You know what I should have said?
Starting point is 00:57:31 You know what I should have said to Larry Wish was, well, there's all this buzz about you. At least I thought there was, but it's just Jamie. He doesn't know how to use the mixer right because of all the low LF frequencies. You know, I will say I probably will only have one diarrhea from that today instead of three. Yeah, that's not that bad. You're going to have two diarrhea. One session. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:57:53 All right, so you're going to play that Larry Wish tape? Hopefully it's distinct. Yeah, it's the song that's named after his son. That was my favorite one off the tape. Second to last track on the B side. It's sucking up. We got this crazy box in the mail. Oh, crazy box.
Starting point is 00:58:04 That I started opening. Don't open it. And then I stopped. You stopped. Should we save it for the next segment? Yeah, save it for the next segment. This segment's been going long enough. Do you have anything you want to play?
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah. Okay. What do you want to play? Let's see. Do I keep it? Keep it Halloween-y because I got to. Keep it Halloween-y? Keep it Halloween-y.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Because there's another one I really want to play. Keep it Halloween-y. I'll save that to the end. I'll go. God, I'm glad that ringing is over. I'm going to go with Wolf Dad. Which has a very scary
Starting point is 00:58:32 silhouette of a werewolf. You know what a werewolf is, right? With a tie on. I'm Wolf Dad. Wolf Dad Must Die. Is this a sequel to Wolf Dad? It's a movie and now this is Wolf Dad Must Die? There we go.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I'm not sure. It's really scary. Wolf Dad font. A lot of scary stuff about it. He's got a tie on so he works at an office. That's funny. I don't think it's a sequel. I think it's just Wolf Dad.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And the tagline for Wolf Dad is Wolf Dad Must Die. Okay. I'm so glad you... I saw the package from FMRL in here and I was like, I hope somebody has the... I don't have the time to open it. I wasn't going to open it. I didn't have the time to open it.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Tax season's coming up, so I don't have... I'm getting all my paperwork ready. I got my accountant on the line. I got my receipts. Where's those receipts? You love that one. Yeah, I don't know why you like that sound a lot. It's not even that good of a sample. Do it again.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, what is it? Like a cartoon slap? Yeah, it just says SFX hit. Oh, SFX hit. Sound effects hit. Sound effects hit. It's so rubbery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:39 So, Wolf Dad comes in one of these tall plastic cases. Yeah. So you get the full DVD artwork. The full retro, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, is it supposed to mimic a movie? There's a lot of text on the back. It seems like it's supposed to mimic a movie.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Put on haunted sounds and read the text on the back, Jamie. I will say, when you release your tape in one of these things, you get better placement on my shelf. You are placed among the elite. The tall boys. I'll tell you, you don't want to be in the bottom of this sock drawer. No, I get some nasty stuff in there. Some nasty stuff in there.
Starting point is 01:00:12 This is the story of a dad. Yuck. A wolf dad. He was plagued by visions as well as soundtracks to go along with these visions. He tried to recreate these soundtracks in effort to share his experience with the world. He hoped to warn them of terrors yet to come little did the world know that this was only the beginning so this is the beginning so it's not a sequel okay so wolf bad must die
Starting point is 01:00:34 or there will be a sequel all right okay awesome this i'd like something with a little story that's fun and then i got one that i think is gonna look scarier than it is so i'll show you guys and you'll see it ready yep so it looks scary it's not a skeleton it's like a very cool drawing of a woman's face was that some collage work but like the eyeball is a whole skull and it's done by a sickle in one of the eyes that's a sickle that is a sickle it's a silhouette of a sickle i thought it was some sort of ooze at first it folds out to a very what's this a commie tape you ever tattoo a sickle i've never tattooed no i've tattooed sickles people like those yeah oh what is now i see what they did they put the girl's head on the skeleton's body
Starting point is 01:01:18 oh yes yes you see what they did i just noticed I just noticed Don't touch everyone I've done a little Clash stuff Artwork by Matt Matt Minter Was that his name Matt Minter Artwork
Starting point is 01:01:31 Artwork He's a wuss Not gonna see that In the Googan He's not a wuss He was a hair police I believe He's not a wuss
Starting point is 01:01:37 He does scary stuff But this is a jazz trio Oh jazz This is jazz trio Yeah How scary Jamie how scary can jazz get? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 That's as scary as... Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I think putting the woman's head on the skeleton body is as scary as it's going to get. Oh, okay. But still, in the whole spirit of things, the listeners won't be scared. Skid-a-bop! things the listeners won't be scared so the gate the gate is the trio is it oh i'm sorry it's a doom jazz trio so doom jazz
Starting point is 01:02:15 of dan peck on the tuba oh yeah yeah we played him before i remember that tuba peed records uh this is on tubaede Records, by the way. I think that's how you say it, right? Tubapede? Yeah, Tubapede. There's a Tom who plays upright bass. I used to watch Upright. He doesn't have a last name. It's just Tom? How do you look that guy up on Discogs?
Starting point is 01:02:37 I don't know. I was just going to start saying the first names. And then Brian Osborne. Percussion. Percussion. Formed in 2008. Yeah, we've played something by the gateborne. Percussion. Born in 2008. Yeah, we've played something by Big Ape before. On bass. Dan Peck.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You know all these guys. You know how jazzers are. They're out there. Remember the free love movement in the 60s when they were all having sex with each other? All the time, yeah. You wake up and they're like just a sea of flesh. That's how these jazzers are with their jazz. They're just constantly mixing it up and playing with each other all the time you wake up and they're like just a sea of flesh that's how these jazzers are with their jets they're just constantly mixing it up and playing with each other so that's
Starting point is 01:03:08 how all these people were are with all each other and stuff like that dan peck has played on some good stuff he's played on anthony braxton and uh one of my favorites imperial triumphant he's played weasel walter nate woolley yeah oh yeah and the gate i think that you're right i think that is what we might have played on Astral Spirits. Brian Osborne runs Heat Retention Records, which I believe John Zorn. Oh, he's got a hard on now.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Put it away, Jamie. Jesus Christ. Now he's sweating in a different place. A lot of cats on this one. I hate when Jamie gets a whiff of talking about jazz, he starts calling people cats. Every time he gets a whiff of jazz, he starts calling people cats.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It's an additional 100. Like I said, Brian Osborne runs Heat Retention Records, and then Tom is the other guy. He's the third guy. Really cool, scary artwork. And then, all right, yeah, let's play those. And then we'll come back and we'll get into this little box. Into the box. This treat that someone sent us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The I'm going to go to the beach. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and do that. Thank you. so The so so so
Starting point is 01:10:36 so so uh Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. so Thank you. so so so so uh so so Thank you. And we're back. Oh, and if anyone is still here after all that Larry Wish. Goodbye! Capricorn sunpe on orange milk.
Starting point is 01:18:06 And then, Jamie, hit me with some scariness while I say, Woof Dad. Woof Dad must die on Ephemeral and the Gate Scum on Tubepede. As me and Joe B. end out, we miss Halloween. Another thing that Jamie kind of ruined for us. We didn't get to do a scary Halloween episode. See, Jamie gets to do
Starting point is 01:18:30 all the diarrhea. He gets to do all the scary stuff and he thinks this will be all for me. That was a mess after that episode last time. Three. Three. Distinct. But no We do a little bit of it
Starting point is 01:18:46 Got it Got it Punk Okay What about this box? What's in the box? This box came And I started opening it
Starting point is 01:18:55 Yeah And then Was that Pepsi on the side? Yeah already from the outside There's a little Pepsi can sticker Pepsi This is a new segment we do on the show
Starting point is 01:19:03 What's in my box? What's in my box? Look at this little face. A little drawing of a face. Is that a drawing? Does that come with the box? I feel like that's printed. Do you think that's printed on the box?
Starting point is 01:19:11 It's a UPS box. I don't know. Look at this side. It says Safeco. And that box has a face on it. Yeah, this is all in the box. It's printed. I can't believe you didn't recognize this as printed.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I didn't really. I thought you were in the industry. Well, open it up. Oh, you want me to me to well who's it from first of all i can't vouch for it or anything sway lore tapes willowby ohio i want ohio i won't dox them with is that what the kids call it that's what they're calling it yeah they're calling it doxin oh ohio is just like a like a 10 minute drive from us anyway. Ooh, there's some tissue. Yeah, some festive tissue paper. Save that for Christmas time or a birthday. Very nice tissue paper.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And I am going to save that. And that matches my Starbucks cup right here. Here's a little box of TGI Friday's potato skins. Look at this. It's a tiny little box. Ooh. I can't touch this. Is there something in the box?
Starting point is 01:20:02 Is that a weed thing? What? The little box? I can't tell. Look at it. I can't touch it. I'm going to get my? Is that a weed thing? What? The little box? I can't tell. Look, is there something in there? I can't touch it. I'm going to get my... It's not a weed that you're going to get contact high.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I'm going to fail my drug test. It's not a weed thing. It's just a tiny little box. Oh, God. What is this? I don't know. What is that? It's rubbery.
Starting point is 01:20:15 There's like a popped kickball in here. Wait, there's something in there? There's a little fortune. It folds out. Hold on. Get a picture of that box. Is it like the little can of peanuts where the snake pops out? Is that what this is supposed to be?
Starting point is 01:20:27 Is that what that was supposed to be? I like that you asked if this was a weed thing. Yes, Jamie. Yes, Jamie, that's a weed thing. It's part of weed culture. Jamie, feel the thing in the box. There's like a kickball in there. Is it like spaghetti? Scary spaghetti? Yeah, close your eyes. Something just fell out.
Starting point is 01:20:45 It is a little rubbery. I hate it. It looks kind of like a watermelon. Oh, and there's something inside. Tissue paper? What's inside of it? Oh, it smells. It smells. Oh, no. It looks stinky. Is there a tape? Cream of the crop.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Oh, is that Ed's Lord? Oh, smell that. Does it smell that? That's ash from Alien. You gotta, smell that. Does it smell that? Oh, that's... Smell it. That's ash from Alien. You gotta smell the tape. Does it smell bad? Oh, it smells like the rubber.
Starting point is 01:21:10 It's the... Oh, it's the rubber smell. It's the rubber smell. I thought they put some... Some scents in there. Let me get... Let me smell. Let me get just a tiny little smell.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Ooh. Jamie, there's more stuff. Oh, yeah, what's in there? This tape looks disgusting. A little turtle. I'll bring that home for my daughter. I found it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Wait a minute. A keychain. The mystery... Somebody lost their keys. There's a key in there? There's a key in there. Oh, my God. What is the key to?
Starting point is 01:21:41 Where's the key go? This tape is by... The Hot Topic little, what are these called? Like a little plastic A little like library card A Hot Topic one and a Pet Supplies Plus one And a key to Something
Starting point is 01:21:54 We can probably look up the customer number and figure this out Oh, what is that little thing? You can have this one Oh, what is it? Oh, it's a Legend of Zelda pin Yeah, it's like the triforce oh that's pretty cool oh i don't like this one mike can have this one you might like it what is it here close your eyes oh so tiny is it a tooth oh it's just a little buff ball
Starting point is 01:22:17 yeah that probably smells too oh my god what is this here Why is everything so small? This one's for your kids. It's a mini... Baby can't have this. It's a tiny watercolor set. Wow. Oh, here you go, Jamie. Here's another. I need the microscope here again. Oh, you got to bring it every time.
Starting point is 01:22:35 This tape inside here is by Organized Cream. It's a self-titled tape released October of 2023. I'm going to make dinner tonight and use this. I'm telling you, man, this stuff will poison your mind. It's a tiny little thing of like chi-chi salsa. When I say tiny, I mean like you put it in like a, like you find like two squirrels, like dead squirrels, and you stuff them, and then you set them up at a table,
Starting point is 01:23:02 and this is their dinner. Yeah. On the inside inside it's written creamy boys dot bandcamp dot com boys with a z oh creamy boys says organized cream is whoever you want it to be maybe it's you just kidding it's tanny otis and dab oh tanny otis and dab i bet they get into some i bet they're like the little rascals i bet tanny otis and dab walk around with like um overalls on with no shirts just playing in mud puddles sending me little miniature things cream of the crop so yeah let's play this organized i don't i can't i don't know anything about it looks
Starting point is 01:23:39 disgusting it is disgusting it looks absolutely and i know joe you don't like uh various creams yeah i actually don't really like this at all. Especially that picture. Of some cream in between the finger. Oh, yeah, that one's gross. This is on Swailer Tapes. All sounds sourced from a single wooden chair. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:23:59 This is the first album that has ever done that. Look it up. Jamie, look it up right now. Look it up right now. An album made from a wooden chair. Yeah that look it up jamie look it up right now look it up right now album made from a wooden chair yeah look it up tell me what you find what does your research discover all right let's see a chair made of old vinyl records what a great idea well that's a chair made of records yeah we need a record made from chairs but a record made from chairs this might be the first. Whoa, this is produced by Rick Rubin. They spell it, though.
Starting point is 01:24:28 The right way. Oh my god, he produced it. And then it also says, if this tape wasn't shipped to you in the center of a watermelon for you to retrieve, then throw it away. It's not the real tape. They all come like this. Well, not all of them. The fake ones do not. You throw those away.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Can I hold it? Because I want to see the cream picture with the fingers. I think there's some AI art which is killing art on the inside. I love it. Jamie, not to go back on this. Ugh. What are those keys to?
Starting point is 01:25:00 This is so disgusting. The children's hospital. Does it say anything about the key it doesn't say anything about the key oh you know who they thank in here nirvana one remember that oh yeah on that ohio another ohio label okay so this is all goofiness yeah these guys are goofballs so they somehow figured out exactly how to get their shit played on this podcast yeah well they figured out like how to get their shit played on this podcast. Well, they figured out the most useless hack.
Starting point is 01:25:28 They're like, if we send the tape in a broken kickball, they're definitely going to fucking play it. But what does that get them? Not much. I like this C-Term. We said last episode, you have to send us pictures of dogs to rate, and you will play your tape, and nobody did that. Name and badge number please all right well organized cream is the cream which i will be playing i shall play this cream i
Starting point is 01:25:54 shall play this cream i think this goes well with the larry wish because larry wish put stuff all over his face yeah the cover this has someone with cream which no it's it's android blood and oh because you know what this is yeah it's from alien okay but it's but what do you think they use real android blood in the movie like props had cream well it's cream is thicker than that in the movie it's more liquid like i wouldn't call it that's more milk consistency you think they use the milk on the movie set under all those hot lights all i'm saying is they didn't use cream. All I'm saying is they didn't use cream. They don't use fucking milk in the commercials
Starting point is 01:26:28 when they need the milk. But you think they bring in, they go, well, we got all this extra milk because we're not using it. All I'm saying is they didn't use cream. We're not using the milk in the cereal commercials. You ever read about the first season of Double Dare? Which they filmed in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Oh, Philadelphia. Good city. And they use all that cream. They film mannequin at Woolworths. They used all that cream. All that whipped cream. And then it started stinking like holy hell in there. In WHYY studios. you know what i mean like smell like after i had one hour sexual sinning for all three that's not like three of jamie's
Starting point is 01:27:11 distinct diarrhea sorry you're playing that i'm gonna play something or do you want to go jamie uh i think i'd like to close out the episode you'd like to close oh you're if you don't mind i have a nice palate cleanser, I feel. I love it. I love it. I love it. The hubris.
Starting point is 01:27:28 People can leave all warm and fuzzy. I think I should be able to close. And they'll forgive me. I think I can do it. All right. Well, I'm going to play this tape. We got four seconds left on the clock. We're down by two points.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I think pass the ball to me. This one straight from the mailbag open today. Strange Mono Stereo Cassette. This is part of their new series called Strange Mono Unsung Gems. Is that what stereo just is?
Starting point is 01:27:58 It's just strange mono? You know what I mean? You make some mono strange and it becomes stereo? Jamie, you are messing with my head. No, that's not it. It's too late or early for that. No, that's... And this band is called Justice League of America,
Starting point is 01:28:13 My Uncle Gino's Band. Oh, wait. Is it really called that? Well, no. That's under Strange Mono Unsung Gems, in quotes, My Uncle Gino's Band. So this is a band from 81 to 82 from New Jersey. Oh, that's my state.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Gino Timlin played drums and vocals. And then we got Bob Torcello, old Frankie Polimieri, and Brian Brown on guitar and vocals. Hey, Frankie Polimieri! Hey, if you're going down to get some Capricorn, you're going to get some Capricorn.
Starting point is 01:28:44 And it came with a little letter Explaining their new series This is the first of their new series Of Unsung Gem Series featuring the Justice League of America When you said this was your Uncle Gino's band I thought you were making a joke Based on the cover
Starting point is 01:29:01 No it says that I thought you showed me the cover Show it to that my uncle my uncle gino's i thought you showed me the cover which show it to to jamie and explain it to him or jamie you can uh describe it well it definitely looks like something that you would buy from like a bar band like in the 80s or 90s yeah yeah in new jersey in new jersey yeah in like pattison new jersey i'm crashing on my sister's house in my own actually this uh picture was taken uh the other end, Jamie, in New York City, which was under the Bitter End. Okay. I played there before.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Really? Yeah, a long time ago. You didn't recognize this brick wall? No. Let me see the brick wall. Oh, yeah, I played there before. That's in, where's that in Alphabet City? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Alphabet City. You played at the other end, or you played at the bitter end? The bitter end. Oh, okay. All right. So whose uncle is it? Is it whoever runs Strange Mono? Whoever runs Strange Mono, I'm assuming.
Starting point is 01:29:52 It's their uncle. It's their uncle. And then are the other people also uncles? Well, maybe. I mean, not everyone's an uncle. Can someone else put out this tape and be like, well, this is actually my Uncle Frank's band. It's a different recording.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Oh, look at this. These guys are just having the time of their life. I can't wait to hear it. I can't wait to play it. This is going to be a very surprising block. Yeah. And it's a good way to flush out Halloween. Flush out Halloween.
Starting point is 01:30:20 One thing I do like about this episode, one thing I don't like is how Jamie messed up so much. But one thing I do like about this episode, one thing I don't like is how Jamie messed up so much. But one thing I do like is Jamie, please. I like how the smooth transitions from tapes from Jamie was like playing stuff
Starting point is 01:30:35 that was like kind of lull you into this sense of like, oh, I'm kind of comfort. I'm uncomfortable. I'm going to make you uncomfortable. And then me and Joe kind of made you uncomfortable. And now who knows this last thing, who knows what's going to happen. Their styles shift from blues rock to new wave to power pop. Okay, so they're a rock band. They're a rock band.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Rock band from the 80s, New Jersey. I'm going to play a little track called Can't Stop Love. That's a great one. Which is true, by the way. Which is true, by the way. Can't stop it. Which is true, by the way Can't stop it Little track on the A side Justice League of America coming at ya
Starting point is 01:31:09 1981, Madison, New Jersey Oh I got a new one from Justice League of America Yeah that's my Uncle Gino's band Gonna play Can't Stop Love Here it is on Strange Mono Can you talk the record up? You didn't do good as a DJ Alright Jamie you wanna finish this out? You didn't do good as a DJ. I thought Jamie was supposed to play it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:31:26 All right, Jamie, you want to finish this out? Yeah, this is a track that is going to blow your mind. Blow your mind. I think so. I'll be the judge of that. All right, so you know there's like chiptune music, like that's like 8-bit, and then like Hasu Mountain sometimes does like 16-bit type stuff, or like Nintendo 64.
Starting point is 01:31:44 This to me is Nintendo Wii music. Nintendo Wii music. I think this is the next generation of chiptune music. Now, I just have to add real quick. This tape is from 2012. I'm sorry. I had to bring in an old tape. Just because this track came on this week and I was like blown away by it.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And I guess I had just missed it earlier when I had checked out this tape before. This is John Swanna. John Swanna. You guys know John Swanna? I think I have a John Sw earlier when I had checked out this tape before. This is John Swanna. John Swanna. I think I have a John Swanna tape. I looked it up. We played, or not we, on episode 84, you and Dave played a John Swanna tape.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Me? In 2016. Yeah. I thought I played John Swanna before. And then on a bonus episode, I played John Swanna for me and Ian Franklin on the cool mic down episode. Oh, cool. John Swanna's getting a lot of on the Cool Mike Down episode. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:32:25 John Swanna's getting a lot of play. He's been pissing me off for a while, huh? But to me, John Swanna, if you don't know who John Swanna is, and you like jazz... Oh, David Lackner's on this. Here we go. Oh, God, you love this guy. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I'm going to say this without hyperbole. David, I'm going to play your tape last. David, David, David, it's Jamie. Dear David, dear David Lackner, it's Jamie Orlando. Once again, I'll be playing your tapes on my podcast, Tabs Out. I'll be closing this episode. Your lovely jazz brings me great joy. A 2012 treasure nugget, which I dug up from the archive blow off the dust all right this
Starting point is 01:33:10 is galta number seven so it is an early release on galta john swan i just want to say real your label galta is the constant inspiration to me especially through covid when i found myself jamie stop i i think john sw, as far as jazz musicians go, he's as good as the rest of them. He's not that good. He's a cat, man. As far as jazz goes, he's as good as the rest. He's as good as anyone.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Oh, okay. The results are in. You put this guy in. And I just want to say Pat Metheny, because this track reminds me a little bit of Pat Metheny, but you have Pat pat mcthieney and john swanna do a little duel and playing licks any john swan is going to hold his own he's going to hold his own he is well tit for tit he's an ev evi player if electric valve instrument and i got a little youtube tutorial here my name is john swanna and i play the electric valve instrument. We like to call it the EVI.
Starting point is 01:34:05 It's made by... Play three, yeah! At his house, it's a homemade one. These things are expensive. They're like $1,500. I got that, Jamie. It's no big deal. You blow into it, and it sends a signal through the MIDI cable. So it's like a MIDI controller with trumpet fingerings.
Starting point is 01:34:20 So this guy's a trumpet player like me, but this guy... Can you call me? Yeah. I'm not going to get in. How would you put yourself with the rest of them? Not even... Yeah. Slightly below.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Listen to this guy. That's him playing the E, B, I. Listen to this chromatic scale he does. Listen to this chromatic scale he does. Listen to this chromatic scale he does. It goes a lot higher, so maybe I'll play a chromatic scale. Let me see. I'm sorry, Jamie. We messed up a little bit.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I can do that, Jamie. And that's the range of the EV. Yeah, I can do that. He calls it an EV. EV. Yeah, and earlier he said EVI. He said we all call it EVIs. Now he said EV.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Now he said an EV. But anyway, yeah. See, calling said Evie-I. He said we all call it Evie-Is. Now he said Evie. Now he said Evie. But anyway, yeah. See, calling it an Evie-I just seems like a very normal thing. Calling it an Evie seems like it has its own bed in your room and you're like, goodnight Evie. Goodnight Evie. I love you. Goodnight Evie.
Starting point is 01:35:15 I love you. I'll play you tomorrow. And then in the middle of the night you're like, I can't play you Evie. It's too late. You can put headphones on with one of those though. So when I play this track, I want you to picture, in your mind's eye, I want you to picture you're playing a Nintendo Wii game like Mario Galaxy. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:35:30 And you're in a dream world. I didn't turn my Wii on yet. Oh, there's an update. There's an update. All right, I'm playing it. Wii. Mario Galaxy. It's not the first level.
Starting point is 01:35:42 It's like you're in like World 5 or something. You're in the dream world. The dream world. Okay. And you get to the dream It's like you're in like World 5 or something. You're in the dream world. The dream world. Okay. And you get to the dream world and you're in this boss battle. And it's one of those multi-phase boss battles where like the guy's like, is that all you got? No, no, no. And that's what this song sounds like.
Starting point is 01:35:56 And there's a little elf in this song. Too scary. That actually tells John Swan. He's like, you can do better than that. And then John Swan rips it on that EV. It's so sick. Some of those runs, I'm not sure, you guys aren't jazz heads like me.
Starting point is 01:36:14 When you hear somebody, sometimes you hear the sickest run and it makes me laugh uncontrollably. And that's what was happening. When I was listening to this track, I was cracking up the other day. So that's why I wanted to play this on the show. I hope everybody sticks around to the end um because this is a great track upstairs yeah his whole family's downstairs like trying to like he's listening to jazz i guess he's listening to jazz again
Starting point is 01:36:35 whatever whatever stops the diarrhea well i can't wait to hear it, Jamie. Yeah. I can wait. No, it's... Let me... Where's the tape? I haven't even seen it yet. Oh, yeah. I like to lay my hands on these things. A lot of people say we don't listen to the tapes.
Starting point is 01:36:52 And the artwork... Do people say that? It says artwork by James Ulmer, and I'm not sure if it's that James Blood Ulmer. It must be, right? James Ulmer, he used to live in Philly, right? He did peasant magic stuff. Okay. That sounds right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:03 So it's not James Blood Ulmer, then? I don't know who James... It's Blood Ulmer. It's a jazz guy. A jazz guy. I don't know. I'm pretty sure James Ulmer did peasant magic stuff. Okay. That sounds right, yeah. So it's not James Blood Ulmer, then? I don't know who James Blood Ulmer is. It's a jazz guy. A jazz guy. I don't know. I'm pretty sure James Ulmer did peasant magic. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to say yeah, because this is like peasant. It's very... Look at that tape right there, that coffins, pillars of heaven. Yeah, yeah. Or coffins, whatever it's called. Not James Ulmer.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Yeah, that's James Ulmer, right? Oh, James Blood Ulmer spelled with a U. This is Ulmer with a E. I like this guy, this James Ulmer Okay, okay. Now he's got to take them all home and do it again. See, I don't have to apologize to the listener. I just have to apologize to Mike for that. And I want my luxury to the tapes and my money. You do. All right. So what are we doing? We're going to start off with that organized cream. Find out what that is.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Yeah. Justice League of America. And then end it with this John Swanna. Yeah. Thanks to Larry Wish. Larry Wish was great today. He sang along with the Crash Test Dummies Great sport
Starting point is 01:38:06 I liked his outfit today too It was almost sort of like a little bit of a turtleneck But not quite I couldn't have it on my screen It was like a half turtleneck Respect Mike there was actually three of these little fuzzy balls What are the little things
Starting point is 01:38:21 Are those like the little things you put on your earbuds I just want to know What are they going to send Are those like the little things you put on your earbuds? I just want to know, what are they going to send next? Wow. All right. Grab it. Feels like a little caterpillar. Let's find out what organized cream sounds like. Does anyone want to take any guesses?
Starting point is 01:38:33 Wet. I think the first, what do you think the first sound we're going to hear on organized cream? You think? Yeah? I think it's going to be this. Yeah. Here's what I think it's going to be. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:38:44 All right. You ready? All sounds from a wooden chair. yeah okay then hold on let me hello there ladies and gentlemen it is my great honor. I am so pleased it is... Don't start an introduction speech like that. It's not about you. It's about the person you're introducing. Ladies and gentlemen...
Starting point is 01:39:18 To whet the appetite for the audience. Ladies and gentlemen... It's not a great honor for you. Ladies and gentlemen, it's not a great honor for you. Maybe it is, but your audience doesn't care. Party, party. Get your hands on me. You'll be all right. Sometimes I come to a site.
Starting point is 01:40:13 You're in here all night to pick it up. If you enunciate it and you make it more than one syllable, orange, you could say like, Like, uh... And I'm... That's my name. Now I'm just a shell of who I used to be. Tonight more. To George. All that, what? All that and more? Those stories and more tonight.
Starting point is 01:40:50 And I'm... It's my name. Thank you, ridiculous. Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Don't get ridiculous! Next, the body was covered with salt and left for about 40 days. Perfumed oils and plant resins were rub wrapped on the body. Thick layers of resin were applied to glue the strips of linen that were wrapped around the body. The mummy was placed on a wooden board, and more wrappings bound them together. A mysterious pouch, perhaps of religious significance, was placed on the chest.
Starting point is 01:42:07 A mummified ibis, a waiting bird with a slender, long curved bill, was placed on the abdomen. Ibis mummies commonly serve as votive offerings to the gods, but this is an unusual case of a bird being mummified with a deceased human. ¶¶ the traveling band, Creedence Clearwater, Revival, Ain't Got No Home, Sylvain Sylvain, from his only solo album, Rock Pile, and You Ain't Nothin' But Fine, Fine, Fine, for Seconds of Pleasure, and then going back
Starting point is 01:42:53 to the Dave Edmonds album, I Need the Bride, because I knew the bride when she used to rock and roll. Stupid Girl was one of our prisoners of rock and roll. They come from Bergen County, New Jersey,
Starting point is 01:43:05 the Justice League of America. We'll be right back. Get some love, get some love, get some love, get some love. No, no, no. Drive the A train with the emergency brake. It's on my goose with the curbless snake. It's like a push when it comes to self. We'll be right back. Can't stop Love We're much too complicated To make a difference But if you really love me It's the same as death Do-do-do-do You can close the window You can slam the door You can slam the door
Starting point is 01:45:06 You can ruin the rich You can solve the poor You can slap an x-ray With a block of lead You can slap your past Look straight ahead You can knock on that box Pushing out your phone
Starting point is 01:45:23 You can slap on names Of the your phone You can stop all meanings, of the bloody stone You can stop my kisses, you can stop my hearts You can stop my song You can't stop love, can't stop love You can't stop love, can't stop love Get some more, get some more Get some more, get some more No! Thank you. Nice. Thank you. Thank you. The Don't be scared, it's just me Why don't you come out and play? Thank you. I'm a child that holds my tears. Give me your best shot. The time that hurts my ears.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Give it your best shot. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. I'm not a fool Thanks for watching!

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