Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #199 | 8.21.24

Episode Date: August 21, 2024

Bad Trips, Indigo Ranch, Yellow Swans, Earth Color, Lighter, William Fields, McClure + White, Matt Robidoux, The Nausea, Tiger Village, Skyminds, Moaners, and Honour Society

Have I really brought in enough sneakers and toothbrushes and books and videos and tape cassettes to keep my intellectual mind happy? I suppose emotionally that's going to be the challenge. Tabs out. Cassette Podcast. It is episode number... What is it? It's been so long since we've done it I thought you had that ready Where has everyone been? 199

Wow One more episode and I quit Is that true? No, that was a joke Oh god, thank you, my heart's getting beat I know Yeah, it's been, we've been Let's see here, Jamie wrote me something

He said he wanted me to read before we started the episode Oh, oh, what? Let me grab here Jamie wrote me something He said he wanted me to read before we started the episode What? We've been gone But now we're back If you don't like that, sniff my crack While you're at it, kiss my grapes Listen up, butthead, here come some tapes Oh, that was good, Jamie

You wrote that? I'll take credit for it Alright, well who wants to play some Gazette tapes? Who wants to get into What have you guys been doing all summer We want to talk Jamie what have you been doing all summer All summer the entire summer

You do not want to get into your personal life I totally respect that Lots of kids birthday parties My band's reunion show Oh I forgot Did that happen It was great Did you crowd surf no no oh how did it feel to be back on that stage the lights and all that did people throw their bra it's like i never

left man what once once that downbeat hit i was gonna say i never left i decided not to oh wow your old bands have downbeats? Yeah. What? Really? Did someone open or was it just an evening with your band? Well, we had somebody open. Actually, it's a good segue into the final tape we want to play in this episode. Oh, I'd love to hear the segue. It's the daughter of that person. She was on The Voice this season. Oh, the show?

The show, The Voice. On television? On television. The TV show, The Voice? You met someone who's famous on The Voice? And she opened for us. That cool wow there was it what was the crowd like the crowd was pretty good i mean i didn't see you guys there but uh well the place i don't really support that kind of music i was i'm very short and the place was packed yeah yeah but it was it was it was it was

a crowd it was a crowd certainly that's that's that's fun so how much did we get paid did you get paid good money well it was all for charity we raised eight thousand dollars for charity that's so exciting for what charity trump vance a friend of ours go fund me uh guy with brain cancer oh man yeah that's nice well after like you did that yeah after being like in the cassette bozo noise scene for a few years now did you think like i can't go back like now that i got a taste of like real music because this is like a real band that you were in right from your youth have have the other members of the band are we not saying the band on purpose oh yeah the band's omni soul have them ever members of

omni soul seen footage of your set where you played the tarp no okay no but i have sent them a couple more palatable uh oh okay that's okay and what do you play the drums no the keyboards joe b that was a joke that was a joke okay sorry i can't pick up on sarcasm i know that's why i do it to you like that's why i do it really dry, because I know you don't get it. Did you think while you're up there playing, because what genre of music is this? Yeah, what would you call? It's like rock, but- It's a rock band, right?

But not like hard rock. It's mid-2000s radio-friendly pop rock music. Yeah. Well, did you ever have the feeling when you were up there with your keyboard, like, I can frigging throw some settings on this? did a little bit put it through an an effects pedal yeah i did some a little bit more abrasive things than i used to do back then i i did a little stinky stuff oh all right there but i'm not too much you know i try not to go too crazy yeah yeah but what do you play again a whirlitzer i thoughtitzer? I thought you were going to say the drums Kurzweil

You were sponsored, right? I was Talking about me a whole lot What, Jamie? I haven't seen you Sometimes you're hard to get information out of It was a lot of preparation I had to learn 20 songs for this show You guys played 20 songs?

We played for like an hour and a half An hour and a half an hour and a half yeah was there an encore yeah we had a two-song encore yeah well well how long between ending the set walking off stage till you came back oh you know it's funny wait wait what's the question how long until that's over thank you everybody we're fucking omni so you thank you fucking and then they walk off okay and then the crowd's like oh you will say you what is the how long did that happen before they came back on and played two more songs probably one minute because we went to the green like i said there was a crowd but it wasn't like there there wasn't like a huge

like it wasn't a sold-out show but it was enough people. People were screaming and yelling and stuff. And then we were in the green room. And then we heard it start to go down. And then we're like, we got to go back out. Yeah, now it's time. I got to ask you about the green room, Jamie. Yeah, me too. I was just about to ask about the green room.

Is it green? Is it green? You know what they say about car accidents that you never remember the color of the car? It's always close to your house. I don't remember the color. Oh, yeah, it always close to your house. I don't remember the color. Yeah, it's close to your house, too. That's a good statistic. So you live near the green room?

That's why they call it that? Yeah. I guess. I don't know if it was green. I got pictures. I'll show you a lot of pictures afterwards. No, thank you. It's all right, Jamie.

I'm getting it all right now. Awesome. All right, let's play a tape. Enough about Jamie. Wake me up! Jamie, you can go first. You guys want something break me jamie you can go you guys want something hot yeah you can go first bring us can we cut all that out i want to cut all that out why you can edit it no no no joe doesn't like when you don't hate it when you edit yeah but he doesn't listen so it doesn't matter it doesn't matter i'm not actually even on the show but it's on spotify now you should listen to it i know i know all right don't tell me what

i like how let's just like we'll start it off now just by saying how you said that something that was said is a good segue to the last tape we're playing right it'll be yeah there'll be a call okay there you go i just want to say real quick i'm pretty i'm not a smart guy okay raised on the streets first in my family to go to school i don't think i think segways it goes right into it i don't think there's an entire podcast before you get to it so segue this is a long word foreshadowing there's gonna be a callback or foreshadowing that's a literary term okay here we go what's the last book you read um stop talking about jay last book book I read was Actually it's a segue

And I'm not even kidding It's a segue to the last tape I'm playing I'll talk about both of those things The girl from The Voice and the book that I read And then the guy on the tape I'd love to hear about it This is all three things Now you gotta listen to the whole show

Now you gotta listen to the whole show Good idea Jamie Alright play a tape Jamie Come in hot As hot as this room is right now Gotta listen to the whole show. Good idea, Jamie. They are famous jazz musicians. Come in hot. Okay, hot, hot, hot. As hot as this room is right now. Wake me up.

Wake me up! Chef, that's nice chicken, right? Okay. We got, you guys know Hot Releases? I saw some Hot Releases in the box. I don't know Hot Releases. Hot Releases. North Carolina?

North Carolina. North Cackalack. Is it a label from North Carolina? It is. I knew that. And the band Bad Trips recently just played Delaware. Oh, yeah. Mike and Dave opened that show.

The PA cut out during your set, but it was a wonderful set. It was rigged. Someone time-rigged the PA so it would go off as soon as the downbeat came in. And everybody was about ready to explode and be like, Mike and Dave! Mike and dave mike and it just went out but this is a this is a new one by bad trips did i did i mention bad trips bad trips bad trips

they just played bad trips on what hot releases hot releases north carolina yeah you mentioned on the soul reunion show and um so anyway we're done with that jamie conrad can't say yes stop bringing up omnioul The entire episode It's a minimal design And the shell color is gorgeous It reminds me of like Legos For some reason There used to be Legos

With that same tint And also the Alice in Chains Self-titled This tint or this tint? That tint On the shell The yellow tint on the shell Yeah

Anyway Yeah, was Alice in Chains Like the first band That had like a colored Tinted jewel case On their CD? It must be, yeah That's the only one i can when you said that i thought oh yeah that jewel case was yellow i think there was like a punk-a-rama cd with a tinted jewel case too that's no no it doesn't sound right i think alice in chains was the only one they're only one

bad trips is a trio from new york you failed to mention that right a tree i was going to name them name them from memory conrad cam oh. Conrad Cam. Oh, my God. From memory? David Drucker. He's got this written down in front of him. Andy Borscht. Yep. Cool dudes.

Hung out with them a while before the show. You're so cool. And Conrad was sporting a Telecult Powers shirt. I saw that. It was awesome. I got there at the very end. I didn't see anything. Old school.

Kicking it old school. What is this? The Stranger Things font on the shelf? I i think it might be you can't just use that this looks tight though i do like the blue paper with the blue uh naroko case and i wish the tape was blue what is there's a scary face i was waiting for you to see it so you get scared i love this scary face where's the scary scary face? I didn't see it. You didn't see it? No. You own the tape? I own it. It's very hard to see because the cover. Oh.

Ooh. Very dark. Boo, boo, boo. But you see some eyes and some sharp teeth coming out. It's very scary. Very scary. And what is this, a tour tape? I'm not quite sure, but it's so hot right now that it's not even on the band camp yet,

and it's not on Discox. I bet you're losing your mind. Yeah. The night he came home. Have you texted him about it yet? No. Or sent an email? No, I'll probably put it on Discogs in the coming weeks, if it's not on there.

I figure you would have texted Discogs by now. Texted Discogs. Dear Discogs, Jamie again. Am I being detained? You've probably been wondering where I've been. Well, I doubt they've been wondering, because he's constantly there. Yeah, he is. It's disgusting, and everyone hates it another message from me another message from old jamie orlando here hot off an omni-soul reunion show noticed you haven't updated i noticed you have not updated the omni soul page to include our recent reunion show okay here we go

okay cool bad trips that would be a pretty good website it's like discogs but shows what do you mean so you'd search uh bad religion and it listed every show they've ever played oh that's gotta exist right yeah yeah does that exist i think that's setlist.fm setlist.fm that's right that soundsfm That sounds fake Let me look that up Do I have to look that up on your wifi here? Yeah setlist.fm The setlist wiki

You can look up Mr. Bungle They got all the Mr. Bungle setlists That sounds like you've been doing that a lot It seems like you already knew that I think you just went to a A bookmark yeah actually the tab's already open what do you guys want to 1995 that was the golden year for bungle at the fillmore setlist.com yeah setlist.fm slash mr bungle is his home love on the event horizon

cold war by a siege chemical marriage violenza. Okay, Joe B. So he's playing this Bad Trips tape. Yeah, right. Are they still on tour right now, by the way? I'm not sure.

Or was it kind of like a short little... At this point, it was 13 days ago, so... We're just fucking around and doing a little fuck walk up the East Coast.

Name me, Matt's got all fucking bloody synthesizers. We're going to take a little fuck walk up the East Coast. Wait, Me and me mates got our fucking bloody synthesizers. We're going to take a little fuck walk up the Haste. No, their set was tight, though.

You know what's funny about their set is like, no, there's a drummer, a guitar player. Hold on, sorry. And a bass player. You know what's funny about their set? What? There's a what? Guitar player, a drum player, and a bass player. Oh, so they're a rock band.

But it was not rock music. Jamie plays drums, right? It wasn't. You play drums, right? I do play drums. I know you play every instrument, Jamie. You're saying it was not rocking? It wasn't rock. Goodbye. Was it skronk? No, it wasn't even skronking. It was more like... Ska. No, it wasn't ska.

Were they doing that a bunch? No, it was more like just... Oh, their circles? Yeah, it was kind of like that. It was kind of like this, too. Oh, that was good. All right, so if you're playing that Bad Trips tape, Joby, I see you're holding a tape,

and one of the people in that band was at the show. I know, that's why I'm playing it. It's called a Segway. Now, this is a Segway. Joby's not like, I got a Segway for something I'm going to play in two episodes. Three years from now. It's a time capsule.

That's a time capsule, Jamie. Look at all that. I'm going to play this Indigo Ranch. Very cool. Love or perish. Indigo Ranch is a duo of Emily Eichelberger and John Pyle. John Pyle was at the show.

Delaware alumni. If you go back in the archives, you'll hear some Tabs Out episodes. He's been on the show. Friend of the show. Big friend of the show. Yeah. Now, that's another... Is that a rock band?

I think they might be a rock band. Guitar, vocals, drum machine, bass, drum machine. They're outsourcing their drums to a friggin' Boston Dynamics, I guess. Got one of those fuckin' dog robots. You try forming a band in Biden's America. You find me a drummer. What is the Indigo Ranch? What is the...

Well, probably gross. Without looking that up, is that like something... You put it on private mode, Jamie. I'm assuming it's like something where like... I bet it's... A cult lived there or something. Maybe it's sketchy. I'm asking.

It's something... Look that up. What is an Indigo... Indigo Ranch typically refers to a property or community with a name that evokes a sense of tranquility and connection to nature. Oh, that's cute. That's not what I thought it was going to be. Search indigo ranch World War II.

Or search like indigo ranch dangerous masturbation. No, no. Dangerous masturbation. No, all jokes aside. I guess this is self-released. that correct mike it looks like it or like um because john pile has like a couple of labels yeah he's got so many labels these days but this doesn't have any um there's no markings no markings no i don't see any ruins i failed my history check give me a um give me an arcana roll all right we need to

have a sound clip of dice rolling before we do that. I would rather die than do that. I would rather die than do that. So this is from... Jamie doesn't like dice. It's gambling, and he doesn't gamble. This tape is from like a few years ago, right?

Oh, well, I'm not sure. I think you're right about that. I thought it was brand new, because I didn't have it. No, I didn't have it either. All this says is that one of the songs, songs written by Emily Eichelberger, recorded, mixed, and mastered by John Pyle. One of the songs, there's an asterisk, Good Bye Horses, written by William Garvey, April

2021, Philadelphia. Okay. I got no information to add to that. I think you stole my pinky. That's all I got. They were really good live, though. I liked it. Very Discogs. Very dreamy.

They had the visuals going. If you're in Philadelphia. I'm not a visual guy. Minimal. It was cold. It was moody. It was kind of like being on an indigo ranch in some ways. Oh, indigo ranch.

So what is this? A self-title tape, you said? Or no. Love or Perish. It was so long ago when you said that. Yeah. I mean, you don't really listen to me. Wellish. It was so long ago when you said that. Yeah. You don't really listen to me. Well, now I need to find one.

No one listens to me. So there's bad... Jamie never listens to me. I'm always doing a lot of things at once. You know what? I think I can... You're right. Everyone does lots of things.

I think I can go in with two of these that fits this whole... The vibe, to use the parlance of the times. So there's Bad Trips. Yeah. Indigo Ranch. Indigo Ranch. Two words. Yellow Swans.

Yellow Swans. Yellow Swans. Yellow Swans. Yellow Swans. It's not D something Yellow Swans. This is just called Yellow Swans. I'm glad you brought that up because... I know a lot about like noise.

You know a lot about... You're kind of a grandfather. Yeah, yeah. Noise. Old school. Old school. This is old school old school this is old school this is yellow swans portland duo yeah you used to put everything out deformed oh yeah like

dodgers la dodgers new well that wouldn't work it's always d it's always d so like um dumb dick no what would one be destroyed Destroyed. No. What? I mean, I think... Ugly yellow swans. You want me to name some? It has to be a D. It was always a D. Dreamed yellow swans.

Die yellow swans. Dusk yellow swans. Drowned yellow swans. Swans. It still doesn't sound right to me. It still doesn't sound right to me. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why they're not using the D anymore.

Oh, now they're just... Well, because they're just but well because they're out of practice they're out of practice one that's the name tape out of practice one demonic yellow swans this is from damage scary this is from the yellow swans archives they found some old stuff they're putting it out uh this tape i ordered and then like a month later oh good glob is on here oh globs finally getting a proper release i have a boot i found it on setlist.fm it's from 11 14 2023 yeah and it's nice because this is remastered this is remastered yeah so the thing you've been listening to the tape's all old Yeah there's too much You've been listening to

The low end floor The flutter Yeah This is the one I've been waiting for Yeah So Buckle your seatbelts kids Glob

Now not Or are you playing Oblivion Access? You son of a bitch Not only is this like an old school kind of tape right it's got that old school drone sound but iheartnoise.com yeah exactly tronics board tronics yeah maniacs only but the best thing about it the true old school shit that i love is that i ordered it and then a month later i email and i'm like hey i'm just wondering like where my tape is and then pete swanson emails me back oh yeah that went out like a week ago you should have it soon and then the next day i got

the email with like the your tape has been mailed here's the tracking number and i was like fuck yeah this is old school we're taking it back fangs and arrows we're taking it back to the old message board days where it's like no i think i sent you that tape out and they're like i gotta dub these tapes yeah yeah that's the kind of shit i miss that's what we need to go back to yeah none of this i'm tired of this like okay we've done it okay everybody the pro dub we got stamps.com yeah the pro dub order from bandcamp and it ships right away no no more of that shit i want you to send me a a second email address that i need to paypal or i want to send you money wrapped in like flyers

or something like that and then i want to wait two years and get a different another different date and it might be blank and i want one side to be blank whatever happened to when one side of the tape was blank i know and you said then and then they send you the mp3s they'll and say tell me yourself what happened to that you know what i think i think it's the free market we did them out well i don't like it i don't like i think we need to go back so yeah this is out of practice number one from the yellow swans archive um who's on who are the who are the people on this swan and gms and uh pete swanson i have a link classic duo do you remember that um people who do noise documentary about portland noise yeah um

do you remember i have it on dvd unless it was in one of those boxes that jamie got do you remember that clip from it of them two, like, being mad at each other? Oh, no, I don't. Okay, well, I got it queued up. I'll save it to when we come back. Okay. And I want to play that. But yeah, Portland, old hats.

Old hats. Real old hats, man. So I got one more, too, I think can go with this block. Old school are right here. So we got Ventrips, Indigo Ranch, Yellow Swans, Earth Color. Earth Color. Earth Color. How's color spelled?

Who's that? Man, that's a good question. Two Earth Color tapes showed up. I never heard of the artist before. I don't know anything about him. The tape's called I Don't Want to Be Free. I Want to Be With You on the label In Memory. How's color spelled?

Typical American spelling. Typical American spelling. Typical American spelling. I want to be with you On the label In memory And um How's color spelled? Uh Typical American spelling American Good Typical American spelling Typical American spelling But they sent here Their email address

And their phone number Oh And it says The text It says to text them Should we text them Jamie will you text them And say we're about to play your tape

Yeah If there's anything You'd like us to say about it Because I got no information But you said I could text you. Speaking of which, I have a segue to the last song I'm playing because I have a text that just came in. You don't know what a segue is.

From the person. Oh, foreshadowing. What's a 206 area code? Somebody bought them. It's your mom's special number. It's because she's so big. She needs her own area code. Oh, they got an iPhone. Are you excited that it's blue? Yeah, it's blue.

When it turns blue, I'm like, yes. Jamie, give me some reverb real quick. Go ahead. Call Jamie's mom now for 206-69-69-69 for the hottest Jamie's moms around. We're waiting. Take the reverb off. All right. And play these tapes. All right. We're waiting. Take the reverb off. All right.

And play these tapes. All right. Bye-bye. Mom, can you stop doing these phone calls with my friends? Thank you. The I'm going to go ahead and do it. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and do that. So so so Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Thank you. I'm not a of the dark side I'm not afraid of the dark side I'm not afraid of the dark side I'm not afraid of the dark side

I'm not afraid let it go. I'm not going to let go I'm not man of my own Oh, I love this band now Oh, I like the sound of the band now Oh, I love this band now Oh, I love this band now Oh, I love this band now Oh, I love this band now Oh, I love this band now © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. I'm not sure if I'm going to be of my own Time to go, time to get my mind on Time to go, time to get my mind on Time to go, time to get my mind on Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 I don't know. Thank you. I don't know. Thank you. I don't know. Thank you. so

uh so um so um Thank you. so © BF-WATCH TV 2021 I'm sorry. The present is that... I'm so happy to be here. so Oh I'm sorry. This is fresh mozzarella. I just watched an Instagram video on how to make fresh mozzarella. Oh. Seems pretty easy. It does, but don't you need to get raw milk for that? i don't know that jamie that's illegal in delaware yeah you got to go to pennsylvania for that we'll talk about that later i have a guy i got a plug as

the kids say plug that's your guy a plug is your guy it's no longer like if i went to go if you were like i want some weed i was like i got a plug wow. It's so hard to keep up with all the words. Yeah. Bad trips. The night he came home. Give me a scary woo. Let me text my plug. Ooh. Speaking of that, we'll get to that in a second. Good segue to something I'm going to do. Oh, plug?

And then Indigo Ranch. Love or perish. I feel like Mike's really loud in my headphones. Followed by that. Turn me up, though. Followed by. I know you didn't change anything, so maybe don't touch anything. I'm going to turn you up a little bit.

Out of practice number one. Out of practice number two is also out. I don't want't change anything, so maybe don't touch anything. I'm gonna turn you up a little bit. Out of Practice number one. Out of Practice number two is also out. I don't want to be up. I want Mike to be down. Currently from the Yellow Swans archive. Playing some glob there for Joe B. Fuck yeah. It's classic track, dude. Fuck yeah. Classic shit going on. And then that Earth Color who Jamie's been texting.

And it's been very... Do you want to read the text? Yes, I do. You're an accessory to this whole thing. Jamie's asking for pics and stuff. We're going to play your tape on Tabs Out right now. Anything you want us to say? That is an example. And the person says, no, nothing I can think of,

other than I really appreciate it. Hold on. I want to do the other guy's part. You'll do the next one. Yeah, you do Jamie's again. Oh, I do Jamie's. And then pass it to me. Start from the beginning?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, I'll come over there. Okay, okay. Just get right up on that mic. All right, all one. You do Jamie's again. Oh, I do Jamie. And then pass it to me. Start from the beginning? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, I'll come over there. Okay. Just get right up on that mic. All right. I'm Jamie. I'm blue. I'm the other one.

Okay, all right. We're going to play your tape on Tabs Out right now. Anything you want us to say? No. Nothing I can think of. And then he's looking at his friend like, this guy's fucking texting me. Other than I really appreciate it

and it's an honor this is jamie orlando what's your name asl question mark question mark question mark which that means age sex location and then it says you've been blocked by user jamie don't make it so weird no it's fun and then they say their name which i won't say because i'm not doxing anybody i think you And then they say their name, which I won't say, because I'm not doxing anybody. No, I think you're allowed to say their name. Oh. We always say people's names on here. Shit, have we not been supposed to be doing that? I don't know.

Brian Kapski, 43. Oh, wait. How's the voice go? Brian Kapski. Oh, yeah. It's like Brian. It's probably not a real name. 43, male, Seattle.

Jamie's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. Nice. I'm 43M2. Jamie's Googling Brian Kapski location. Where is he?2. Jamie's Googling. Brian Kopski. Location. Where is he? Pictures. Hell yeah. This will be funny. Thanks.

Do you have kids? When you're in your 40s, it's hard to meet new friends. It doesn't really say that, does it? That's definitely true. Jamie, please. Here's a picture. LOL. love it no that was his part uh lol love it really thank you so much you're in the first block too right after yellow salon oh my god cool driving now but excited to listen when i get home the episode will come out. Maybe three to four days. We're recording as we speak.

Why are you doing this? Oh, now I have to text them. Perfect. Now I have to text him like, yo, what's up? This is Mike.

I'm not lame. Like Jamie, man. I'm kind of cool. Jamie, this was the best bit you've ever done. Yeah, this was pretty good. Oh,

that poor person. Earth color. What was the name of that? That bit will win an award At the podcast At the awardees The bit The castees

Yeah, the castees I don't want to be free And the award for best Mid-block bit Goes to You gotta give me some reverb Now presenting for the castees Jamie's mom

Hi Alright, oh, I wanted to play that the castees, Jamie's mom. Hi. Alright, oh, I wanted to play that Yellow Swans YouTube thing. Actually, I think Jamie's mom's accepting the award. Jamie Orlando couldn't be here tonight, accepting the award on his behalf. Jamie's mom. What's that sound? Hold on, I gotta find where they are

in this video. Who? Yellow Swans. I thought I had it queued up to their conversation. Let's just start from the on, I've got to find where they are in this video. Who? Oh, Yellow Swans. I thought I had it queued up to their conversation. Let's just start from the beginning. I haven't seen it in a while. Put it in there. I don't even know if this is the part.

Maybe I'll do this later. Do it later. I'll do it later. This is a segue. I admitted this on the break, but I had never heard Yellow Swans before. That was my first. I had heard of them. I thought you were ahead. But I never heard them, and that was not what i expected them to sound like is that what they

all their stuff sounds like all their stuff sounds exactly like that you can't tell it at all i have a sample for that after a while they all start to sound the same yeah i'm sure no one would be upset at all if we just said that through the immense yellow swans catalog it all sounds exactly this like that yeah no that's cool i like when uh people go through the archives they hone their craft like acdc you don't want them to sound different no no no this is just like acdc yeah have you ever seen that little i'm not going to talk about it in length but that that little clip of rick rubin talking about working with acdc no how it took them like they would just sit around smoke cigarettes and talk for like an hour and then they kept he'd be like let's go and then they'd be like oh one more minute mate studio time's

expensive and then they would just do it okay like perfect they're a great band yeah hold on let me see if this is the yellow swan singer here you ready your system is like a gigantic systemic network that that informs itself constantly and every sound that we put in there um not only do you have that sound but you have everything i want to say right now in the background the other guy in the band visibly frustrated okay that is reacting to that sound i mean you pretentious douche what are you talking oh i've seen this yeah right but it doesn't necessarily have to that sound. You pretentious douche. What are you talking about? Oh, I've seen this, yeah. Right, but it doesn't necessarily have to. That's the thing.

There's nuance control, but I don't think it ever stops being a feedback loop on some level. No, it does. It does. There's total control. No, because I would say that even at a minimum, energetically,

there is this constant chain of events that leads to a new creation of sound. Not necessarily. It doesn't have to be. No, but there is. Absolutely there is. Not at all. Absolutely there is.

Okay, that's the best conversation two noise people have ever had. And they're in the same band. Yeah, and there's... The one dude's like, no, I can do this again. And I feel like... Total control. It's not a feedback loop. It's just same band. Yeah. And there's the one dude's like, no, I can do this again. And I feel like total control.

It's not a feedback loop. It's just constant a stream. Yeah. If you're going to be a noise duo, that is the energy you need to bring. Yeah. Just constant. You're at each other. Yeah.

Disagreeing about everything. I love it. People who do noise. That's what that's from. If anyone wants to look it up. All right. Next block. Who wants to go?

I'll go. I'm going to play this tape just straight out the mailbag. Know nothing about it. You're doing another one of those, right? Yeah. That always scares the shit out of me when you grab these mailbags

because a lot, I would say like 60% of the stuff that comes in. Yeah, well, this is from anal torture. It's not really, is it? No, no. This is a segue from Jamie. I don't know if he talked about this on air or not. This band No no This is a This is a segue from Jamie I don't know if he talked about this on air or not

This band The group is called Lighter And the tape's called Massage Oh On Crash Cymbals Look at this crispy chicken Okay Nice

Oh it's so hot Hot off the presses Hot off the presses Lighter is Camilla Paget Coles Oh yeah yeah Maya Ibar You know who this is? Yeah because

And Borsha Al-Sandi I know that name from Galta From Galta My label Oh sorry Not my label The label that you I'm a fanboy of

The label you can't shut the hell up Whose label is it Jamie? To say David Lackner Jesus Christ If I would have known that I wouldn't have played this So are these

Is this a Jazz head here? I don't know what this So are these Is this a Jazz heads here I don't know what's going on I think Camilla plays Like singing bowls and stuff At least on the record That I have Okay

Interesting And this is You said it's a trio Trio Three people Three people And that's all I got That's all I know

Yeah because you literally Just took like You opened it up Well you know With crash cymbals. Crash cymbals always hits. Get out of here. It always hits.

I'm only playing it to get listens. I don't know why Jamie's not doing the crash cymbals bit that we always do. Oh, yeah. I have too many soundboards now. It's hard for me to find things. Yep. It's overwhelming. I got my Jordan Peterson soundboard.

Ooh, it's good. Let me ask you, Jordan Peterson. How did you know they were called lighter in the table's massage? Just because lighter's to the left, and that's how I read left to right. But you're guessing? It's not a guess. Oh, no, it says lighter is. It's not a guess.

Yeah, it's a calculated assumption. No, I want to point out that on the cover, it just says lighter massage, and I would maybe even think maybe the band is called lighter massage. It's not. It's not. No, because lighter's at the top, and massage's in a different font, and it's smaller. Why would you put the band is called lighter massage no it's not it's not lighters at the top and massages in a different font and it's smaller if why would you put the band name smaller the band name you want big up front the guitar player you know i mean okay all right you're right you don't know anything

about rock i don't well also the aesthetics i don't really know much about aesthetics that's what i'm playing jamie you play a tape later massage do i get to go next yeah because james because mike's gonna play five after this all right you play a tape. Later massage. Do I get to go next? Yeah, because Mike's going to play five after this. All right, I got a tape here. What I got about? On a French label. Oh, nope. A freedom label?

Freedom label. We've played this label before. It's called Soon. Actually, I have the pronunciation here. Spell it. And I was DMing the label guy this morning. Oh my God, I'm sure you were. There's a lot of themes. Yeah, you want to read? You can come over and read it read your text hi this is jamie orlando from

tabs out here's the pronunciation just bought a tape on your label soon saw it wasn't oh wait soon soon soon soon is this it's it's a danish, but it's a French label. And the label head is Francesco Ameglio. Francesco Ameglio. Which does not sound like a French name. That doesn't sound like a French name. Wow, international stuff. The Olympics just happened, and this is feeling very... That sounds Spanish?

I don't know. Like from Spain? It's an international, but... What about Italian? It could be Italian. That would be my guess. You guess Italian. Or Spanish.

That's what I said, from Spain. Oh, it's from Spain. Well, I didn't know that. Well, I said it, Jamie. This is another example. You don't fucking guess. You would guess Italian. Or Spanish. That's what I said, from Spain. That's what I'm saying. Well, I didn't know that. Well, I said it, Jamie. This is another example. You don't fucking listen to me when I talk. But it's an international theme, but a local artist. William Fields, our good friend Bill Fields.

World music. Am I allowed to just call him Bill Fields on the show? I don't know. It says William Fields on the thing. I mean, it shows a little bit of respect. Bleed that out. Yeah. I don't know. It says William Fields on the thing. It shows a little bit of respect. If you want to, you can awkwardly text him and ask him

information about himself like you tend to do with some of these artists. What? Red tape. Nothing on it. No label or anything. You gotta put something on it. You gotta put something. Sorry. Not playing it. You know what scares me?

What's this? a variation of the brad pack this like paper pack that it comes in this die it's a chad chad pack oh it's a chad pack is that really what it's called no i've just made that up is this like a custom thing because it's got a little like nub in the back yeah people were like with their like paper covers for their tapes they were like it opens up too easily so they added this like little security measure so you couldn't get in there now these my grandfather invented that it's a security measure these paper things always they always make me afraid because like if it gets wet or something then the whole thing's shot yeah yeah that could happen yeah then the whole thing shot but i also i like uh when a label like that segues into our

sponsor for today's episode paper no it's a spray that you put on paper so it doesn't get wet oh like yeah you know what i do with all these paper cases for cassette tapes i laminate them right away i get a five mil lamination on there right away uh it's a museum grade kind of protection buck gooter yeah uh the the the one dude um now i can't remember his name but uh he would always laminate all his art like drawings oh really you have to keep him safe okay well i bet it worked yeah i bet i kept it safe now joe b what's his name terry turtle terry turtle peace Terry Turtle Now Joe B being as someone who you love Dissecting like the nubs Oh I didn't even look at the nubs

Well there are nubs Yeah that's what I'm getting at So how do you feel about that Well that doesn't even concern me What if the tape jiggles around a little bit too much in the paper case You need the nubs to hold I don't spend any brain power on paper packaging sorry i'm a nub guy can i can i talk about william fields i didn't talk about any of these nubs

from the previous tapes you talk about bill fields i need to investigate these i mean i'll let you know what i find just for our listeners sake talk about bill phil uh william william fields show an ounce of respect sometimes first i'm going to talk about myself oh god so when i was in omni soul jamie well please he was one of the first experimental artists i played even before i played with any of you guys i played with beck fields jamie i've been doing experimental music since no good yeah you played with that field i went to his house and we jammed and did yeah and we made a little recording with that we never released it but um he at it was at the very beginning of like his current music system now so he's developed with using like code and everything and reaper

and a lot of programming knowledge he's made his own music system that he the little sliders that you saw him use on stage the other day the controller device yeah like he used to have that on an ipad but now he has it on a hardware device but that controls it doesn't control like filters it controls randomness okay so his his whole system is based on like different levels of entropy and randomness he's so random it's so random does he know you can just go like hey siri play music yeah and it'll just do it you don't have to do all that shit and uh he um he's a smart guy he released a 24 hour um i build pretty good release on band camp that it's just generative so it's every hour is a different style of generative music where he just hit hit play on his music system and let it just i can do that jamie compose a thing and it

got so much attention that um he was on richard divine's podcast richard divine richard divine warped warped synth guyped. Synth guy. Singular warp. Big time guy. Warped. Warped. He's got some respect in the industry.

He does. It's cool to have him in Delaware and it was cool that he played the other night with a label mate, Matthew Riles.

Matthew Riles. Another segue. Another new tape on Svun. Svun. You can just go like, hey Siri, play a version

of Wake Me Up. Wake me up! Thank you Siri. Thank thank you sir and it's done that's like you just triggered siri on my phone when you said that by the way what's my phone doing very funny all right i'll play some tapes here william fields what do y'all know you know what i got one that's also in kind of in a paper case oh look at you so maybe i'll play that this is like it's called the tape is called farming by a duo i got some sounds for that there you go farming duo of mcclure and white are their names it's limited to 29 on a label called long arm artifacts and it's like okay it's not this but this is what it made me think of you know joe b you know when you'll bring like a tape like a dungeon synth adjacent

tape that's like a game that you play it's like an rpg yeah okay so you know how in the gaming world there are like dry games about like agriculture and stuff yeah dave plays those yeah listening to this tape makes me feel it's the equivalent of when you listen to a dungeon synth tape and you think of an rpg you think about going into a cave and like yeah and it's like battling a troll an orc emerges from the smoke so this evokes farming this evokes this makes me think of someone is like reading you the rules and you're about like they got all the game is spread out in front of you. It's like. And they're like it's really easy. It looks. It's really easy. It's like

a resource management. Yes. This tape makes me feel like the way that a dungeon synth tape makes you feel like you're playing Dungeons and Dragons. This makes me feel like you're playing a dry game called farming. Yeah.

No. Not farting and like i said limited to 29 uh the cover itself while i i would believe that this could be one of the cards from the game what's this an o card it's like a paper o card and yeah this is the this is the cover hey that's the cover and it comes with this insert that you fold out and like there's the pieces invocative of like pieces of a game oh yeah but you'll get what i mean when we play it i'm gonna spend five weeks to upgrade my yeah yeah upgrade my tractor and now i produce two more wheats for every sector there you go yes it'll make you feel like that It'll make you feel like that.

It'll make you feel like you're playing a game like that. Well, I'm going to play Blight, and that cancels your two wheats. Well, I've planted winter wheat, which can't... Uh-oh, a locust swarm. My sorghum will... Sorghum. Okay.

So, now, Jamie, let me show your little... Let's write this game. Yeah. I'm amped to play. I'm going to show your little let's write this game yeah i'm just a half way up to play i'm gonna show your little sweaty flat ass how to do a segue so that's farming and then i'm gonna play a tape of corn synth corn synth this is corn synth by i guess i don't speak french matt rubidow matt rubidow that's another familiar sounding name why do i. Why do we know that name? Matt Rubidow. I don't know why we know it. Is he a cat?

I mean, you could look it up right now. So why is this called corn synth? I didn't completely get to the bottom of that, but I think all the stuff that this person does is classified as corn synth. Okay, because it doesn't say it anywhere on the tape. They've put out stuff on Null Zone, Already Dead, Kendra Steiner Editions.

This is the genre of music that they play. I guess the genre of music is corn synth. I think they're the only ones doing it, and I don't know. Oh, I have. And it's called Matt Robodeau, but it's more than one person? No, I think it's just that person. No, there's three people on the back here. Are they, like, helping?

Are they, like, any? It's hard to read the text because it's like green it looks cool any ivory black midi accordion chuck johnson pedals the old guitar matt norman plays the baritone and e-drum baritone horn you're a horn guy jamie matt norman played a norwalk bike project before look at that look atlex homan oh and you're not going to believe this i don't know if this is the same chuck johnson it might be a different one but this chuck johnson on discogs is a mixing engineer who worked at indigo ranch studios no way i'm not fucking with you guys there's a lot of connections in this episode i call them segues but i'm segways wow that's such a cool segue it's like a neural network life's crazy do you know that matt

robodeau was in lenny kravitz 3 i did see that yeah what's lenny kravitz it's a duo with matt robodeau and dan mcleod and they have one dan mcleod's uncle Yeah He used to work at Charcoal Pit Was a farmer So the presentation of this Matt Ribbedoo tape Which is called Mush Songs or something It's called

Mush Songs Mesh Songs So the presentation is very impressive Is that what Omni Soul sounded like? No we're a little less butt-rocky It's too butt-rocky and heavy But along those lines You're more like No, that's a little too bubblegum-y

That's too bubblegum-y Like Spin Doctors And it was all yellow Oh, like Coldplay But you rocked a little bit too, right? We we did we had a little bit of edge okay yeah shut up about this god damn edge all right let me explain the presentation of this tape which is very nice not a lot going into it which makes it even better so it's got the norelco case the back of it nice orange tint the tape is clear with black print on one side and green

print on the other which like you see through it it's very hard to read and then on the narako case itself is like a laser etching of a little like cloud or something like that or some kind of i do see it's like a little cloud monster it all comes together very nice and that's how you do a segment jamie is this label called tone the label yeah you're asking me tongue tone there's air tone air tone oh so that's a cloud yeah air tone air tone because it says tone and laser underneath okay yeah so that's the tape i'm gonna play jamie did before we get into this did you want to like text any of these people like pictures like swimsuit pictures of you or anything well i was i'm not sure if i said this already, but I was DMing Francisco Ameglio

this morning just asking him how soon is pronounced. Is he the one that sent that sample? Is that him saying soon? No, it's some random website

that pronounces words. Oh, I'm sorry, you couldn't be, we played this tape and you couldn't be bothered to send us how you, MP3 of you saying it.

Yeah. Thanks a lot. You know what? Don't play that tape. Yeah. No, for Bill Fields, William Fields. God damn it, Jamie. used to get a mp3 of you saying it yeah thanks a lot you know what don't play that tape yeah no for bill fields william william jamie sorry i think he has his doctorate dude yeah dr william fields i don't know bill shatner bob de niro well that's if you know him yeah you wouldn't call those people that okay oh my bobby it's bobby by the way oh bobby yeah it's bobby i don't really know him very well

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I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready Thank you. The The The The Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. Thank you. The walls are crossed by CB signals. Communication in our house is lost the most blaze. Toy soldiers under bedclothes plotting a post-midnight assault.

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In order? I do. And don't mess up anything. Can you rotate those about 45 degrees? Yeah. Oh, gosh. Oh, the other way? Yeah.

Towards you? All right, we got... That's a good geometry. That's a segue. Bad trips. No, I'm just kidding. No, this way. This one right here.

We started with William Fields. I don't think we started with that. No, we started with lighter. You got the stack wrong. Oh, I'm sorry. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, I'm just kidding. This one right here. We started with William Fields. I don't think we started with that. We started with lighter. You got the stack wrong. Hey. Those are going to be worth a lot of money one day. Lighter. William Fields. And what was that last one?

Lighter massage on crash symbols. William Fields. What do you say? Cube? Is that how you say that word? Q-U-U-B-E. On. Soon. And then A farming Danish word By McLaurin White

The law firm of McLaurin White Oh yeah And then Farm Corps Some Goddamn corn synth So that's what corn Sounds like

We got a lot of corn fields here In the state of Delaware I never actually You drive past them You don't think much of it I never thought about Just dropping off a synth And just

Yeah Seeing what those old stalks do. But that was some good stuff. That was some fun stuff. And I think we're ready to play the last block here. Jamie, there's been something you've been holding in. You actually gave me something here you wanted me to read. Let me get it here.

I got it right here. Again? Okay. I went out and got a new deck. Hold on. I don't have one for this what you did i got i got a nakamachi it's my new deck if you don't like it you can smell my crack all the parts they never rust when i hear tape it makes me bust sign jamie orlando why stop giving me this shit? Hey, I wanted to make the announcement that I have a Nakamichi deck.

Yeah, you won't shut up about this fucking announcement. I thought of a song I could sing about it. You want to hear this? Yeah, I do want to hear it. A little reverb. Yeah, put a little reverb. I need a little echo. Jamie's got a Nakamichi.

This is awful. I like it I'm cutting that out Pretty scary Alright so what do you want to end the I got two more I'm going to end with Who wants to go first? Why don't you go first

And then I'll go And then Jamie goes Because that's a perfect segue Into Jamie Oh yeah because Jamie You went to end it You finally got all day Guys

Guys the segue Don't forget about the segue We waited three months to record this and now it's building up to the very end he wants to back load alright this tape actually just came in the mail yesterday I got it

I don't know oh speaking of discogs real quick going back this is a segway to earlier in the episode Jamie you know Bad Trips doesn't have an image on their discogs really yeah well you want me to put that up right now yeah put that up yeah could you work out but make it a funny one do a funny one do a funny i took some pictures of the show the other night maybe i could use i'm gonna use some of my own private photography dear discogs my recent photos of

bad trips may be deemed all i have is videos but i could take a screenshot from the video i like the one where conrad's playing the flute yeah zoom and enhance you want to hear it Trips may be deemed. All I have is videos, but I could take a screenshot from the video. I like the one where Conrad's playing the flute. Yeah, zoom and enhance. You want to hear it? That was a good show. Yeah. The Nausea Requiem.

Let me see what the logo is. The Nausea Requiem. The band is called The Nausea. The tape is tape is called requiem oh is that what it is yeah because the requiem is really small underneath you know i told you i didn't know how to do that so what do you mean when they use a different font it's a different well it's the same font but it's smaller i don't get it i don't get it this is not this like is this like a band well this is not that punk band nausea. Well, this is the nausea. Were there two? Was there like a cross band and another band both called nausea at the same time?

I don't think so. I feel like there was one nausea on like Slap a Hammer or something. Wasn't there? I think that's the same. No, there might be actually. I feel like there was like, well, this is not that. Because there is a nausea that was like during the time of Agnostic Front. Oh, I know that band.

Agnostic Front? I've heard of them. Yeah, you've heard of them. I haven't heard of any of the other bands you're talking about. The AF, dude. Yeah. Jamie. Not my world.

So this is The Nausea. The Nausea. The name of the album is Requiem. Requiem. And the name of the label is Absurd Exposition. Absurd Exposition. I'll tell you what's absurd is the size of the font on this thing i know i complained about it every year the fonts get smaller and smaller

i can't read that stuff this is anju sing on violin viola cello electronics voids and creative mixing i think this is creative mixing i like when they get creative with it i think this is two labels that put it out all right's the other label? Absurd Exposition and Creative Mixing. And Buried in Slag and Debris. Buried in Slag and Debris? Yeah. I feel like a good name for a label would be Creative

Mixing. I like when they get creative with the mix. You know what I like? When they get nasty with the mixing. Yeah. Me too. Recorded and mixed by Jess Gaddner at Rain City Records. Now, did they get... Who could that be?

Did Jesse get creative with the mixing? Hmm. So this just came in the mail yesterday. I got it out of the mailbox this morning. And I listened to a little bit of it

and I was like, this is pretty good. Why not just play it today? Just play it. Just fuck. Look at all that lobster meat. Sound art and creative mixing they're from vancouver british columbia oh bc anju sing anju sing yeah we're gonna roll the list of all all the fun different instruments they play violin you want to do it again let's go ahead what else we said it already yeah but

go ahead but there's no you know you can fact check me violin viola cello electronics vocals noise oh i didn't list all these sound art i knew you didn't that's why i'm doing it because you didn't all right what else because i didn't know there was sound art on this sound art and creative mixing i love when they get that's all you care about yeah so i'm gonna play a track from this tape i thought there's gonna be a metal tape it looks like it would be a heavy metal tape like a or maybe like a godflesh yeah yeah that's what i was you thought it's gonna be like yeah like slim not i thought it was going to be like Slimpknot. Ladies and gentlemen, the nausea.

Oh, wow. Requiem is really so much smaller. So much smaller. Look at the spine, though. I think you have font blinders. I do have font. Guys, actually, I've been meaning to talk to you about this. I just got back. You can't tell the sizes of fonts.

Oh, you can't tell the sizes. You can tell what they are, though. He knows what they are, but he can't tell the sizes. It's like Times New Roman. Well, actually, not to be a dick, but a Oh, you can't tell the sizes. You can tell what they are, though. He knows what they are, but he can't tell the sizes. It's like Times New Roman. Well, actually, not to be a dick, but a font is the typeface and the size. I disagree with that. I disagree, because the size is like when you're in Word and you can put 12. Eight.

But what you're saying, like Arial is a typeface, and Arial 9. is a font. Oh. So good. It's so good on my lips all right now it's out 199 and then hey hey oh hold on and then this new tiger village tape also just came in uh printing on the tape grid work i know that he went hard with the tape tim thornton that sounded like a very forced response look at all that printing it's the tape. It's because when I showed Joe this tape earlier, and I was like, you want to play this? And he said, no.

I was like, but look at this shell, man. Tim went hard on this shell. And he said, I've seen better than that. Yeah. But I've also seen better than this, but it's still pretty good. It's still good. It's still pretty good.

How you doing? So yeah, this is new stuff from Tim Thornton thornton from ohio who runs sweet 309 309 the label that this is on like i said went hard with the shell imprinting um but actually now that you say it joe i don't like it either yeah i like a minimal i've seen it before i like people who don't try hard you know what i like nothing on it i like that's weird because i don't like that yeah there was a tape in the box but that's too much listen if you're gonna put out a tape do it just right there's a fine line there's a let's go to the let's go and then i'm gonna play he got a virus

sky mines echoes on the shore oh is that strategic tape reserve is that what that is no it's uh did you just pull this out of the mailbag as well i got this uh this is inner islands oh the spine logo looks similar from a distance no you don't know your tape load that's true yeah this is a little doodle of like two uh inner islands say the water and the sun when did you get this you did not gave it to me a couple weeks ago okay so this is like a fairly new one? Fairly new one, yeah. And who is it? This is the one I've been waiting for. Sky Mines. Sky Mines.

Echoes on the Shore, Inner Islands. No other info really besides track titles. Oh man, really trailing off here at the end. Yeah. Well, what? I didn't do any research for this one. I know. Don't worry, just wait for me.

Yeah, wait for Jamie. I'm saving it all for Jamie. I got about 30 minutes of material. He's got a lot of material. I'm keeping my set short. Yeah, we can. This is warm up, man. Let's play some shitty.

The opener doesn't go longer. Yeah. You want to be a closer, man, but you're not. I got a tape. Tiger Village. Don't know much about it. It's brand new. Joe doesn't like the shell.

Joe's got a tape. Sky Mines. It's on a label that looks like another label. He's going to play that. Jamie. Jamie. Jamie. Jamie.

Jamie, please. Now, this is where we... Joe, turn on the fan, by the way. the fan yes you're not here oh but now it's gonna the sound right well it's torn down are people still here are you still with us well they've been waiting since the beginning for this fucking for this thing oh yeah this is where we get to you're about to unload this shit right i'm about to unload i've been taking notes king of slam there's been so many references yeah what have all the segways been let's go over them um all right the person that opened for my band that was on the voice god he won't shut up about this oh yeah i forgot what oh my band omni solo yeah your band omni solo you know not to like how many records did you put out um we put out two full-length albums and two eps nice not to shit on the thing about somebody from

the voice opening but if you could have gotten someone from the mass singer yeah i really feel like i would have went if you got somebody from the best singer to open up sorry this is this is a delaware connection though okay that's fine this is all connected the second reference was we were talking about like i had been texting other people like the person from earth color was texting so i was texting this person from Earth Color was texting. So I was texting this person this morning. Joe earlier asked me about the last book I read, which is related. Somebody said it's an honor.

The word honor is related. And then there was two things during the breaks, which the listeners didn't hear. But somebody, we were talking about a handwritten note. That's a reference. And then we're also talking about negotiating. And that's another note. So keep all those. It then we're also talking about negotiating, and that's another note. So keep all those. It's six distinct concepts in your mind.

I'm confused. So I'm going to take you back now to, let's go back to 1984. 1984. You're in 1984. Return of the Jedi has hit theaters. When cocaine was cocaine. When cocaine. Bolivian white.

You're in 1984. You're in Delaware, the state of Delaware, 1984. I didn't live here here I didn't move here Until 89 Okay I was here Jamie Go ahead What do you need to know

There was a band On the scene Back then Okay And it was a trio And I'm friends Three people Right

I'm friends With two out of the three Of those people You son of a bitch What happened With the third person I'm not friends with him I don't know

Why What happened I don't know who it is You guys were falling out No I just don't. I never met. Okay, so you're friends with these two old guys. And you've been avoiding the third one. I'm going to pass around a tape

real quick. And this is not the tape I'm playing. But the band's name is Honor Society. Oh, Honor Society. The friend that I have that I'm really close with is a guy named Richie Rubini. How close? Well, he produced two of my band's albums um back in the 2000s and um actually in the omni-soul reunion show he was on stage with us playing he

played a song with us and um all right and actually that's another segue i didn't even write down i love his eyes light up but um his daughter is olivia rubini who was on the voice she made it to the semi-finals she opened for us and she also performed with us. Jamie, this says 85 in here, by the way. Oh, there is a year in there? Yep. Because I asked Richie, I texted him,

I said, what year is it? He said 84. This says 85. So now my immersion is totally... He said that he spray painted that tape. Oh, another tie-in is when we saw Bad Trips, it was at Squeezebox Records

and that tape was on sale for $100. $100. You showed this to me. Why? It was on sale for... And I brought it up to the counter. This tape here that Joe had is Honor Society? Yeah. It was on sale for $100. You showed this to me. Why? It was on sale for, and I brought it up to the counter. This tape here that Joe has is Honor Society?

Yeah. It was on sale for $100. It's not even on Discogs. Are you sure it wasn't $10? Nope. So I brought it to the counter. I said, does that really say $100? And he said, yeah, it does.

And I said, is there really a market? No offense to Richie or Dean, who are the two guys I know that might be listening to this. You know, much deserved, but like, how long is that going to be on the shelf until somebody spends $100? I said, I'll give you $25 for it. And he actually said, okay, yeah, $25 sounds good. It's called negotiating.

Negotiating. So I texted Richie and I said, your tape was on sale for $100. And he's like, oh, I spray painted it. He was telling me about the tapes. He spray painted the... Old school. We're not going to play that, but the very next day,

Richie Rubini, he lives in Hocas, in this town that I live in, he dropped this tape off in my mailbox. So this is a compilation tape called So This Is Newark. So Newark is where

University of Delaware is. Wait, so you weren't home? I wasn't home. He came by my house. You came home and you found this in your mailbox? He put it in my mailbox. Oh, what a cool mystery.

Joe, if you open the tape, there is a hand-drawn note in there, which is another segue from i'm saying segues these aren't segues these are just things that you're saying yeah at the cover of the picture of main street yeah isn't that cool that is like if you saw that a record store you would buy that right oh yeah yeah so that's awesome i said oh look at that enjoy with a doodle yeah and that's a doodle of him oh he made this. This is cute. Yeah, he drew himself on it. Is he an artist? Has he ever taken a lesson?

No, I don't think so. That's natural. He's a good friend. Yeah, he can really do faces. I thought that was really generous that he put that in my mail. Because that's the kind of stuff I love. These, like, a tape from 1987 from Delaware. I'll take that. That's your love language. I'd buy that for a dollar.

So, the connections. So, the text message the text message the daughter oh the last book i read you want to know about the last book i do yeah it's a history of newark it's called um the yin and yang of it all and it's by a guy named john fay do you guys know john fay is that name ring a bell no he was the singer from from a band called the caulfields who was signed to a&m in the 90s and richie was the drummer for that band. Remember the song, I'm bigger than Jesus now. The Beatles. That's the quote from the Beatles. There was a 90s

song that was on the radio. The Beatles. That was Richie's band. Richie was in the Beatles? The drummer. And John Fay, the singer. It's actually an excellent book. It talks about a lot of old school Delaware history, which is really fun. So what year did this comp come out?

Look on the spine. 87. 87. And we're going to play the Honor Society track in honor of Richie and Dean. Right. And Dean's been at the Final Friday shows before. Really? He's a cool dude, yeah.

He's only been at one. Who was all on this comp? I want to hear Bats Without Flesh. Oh, that's the name? You know what's crazy? You know what's wild? Actually, we need to find out about some of these bands. Jamie, I want you to kind of find out about some of these bands.

I'll try to. Because Jerry Cutts Grass was in that glam rock band in the 80s. Okay. His band could be on this band. Oh, could be on here, you're saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in like a Newark band. Read the liner notes here.

I want to know a little Delaware historyaware history moaners freudian oh from who's the boss moaner next um henry the band okay mustard trucks i like that one woody purcell tommy conwell oh tommy connell yeah he's famous he's he was on columbia in the 80 Yeah he's famous He was on Columbia In the 80s Yeah cause then he was On the local radio station Tommy Conwell On the Young Rumblers Tommy Conwell

On the Young Rumblers Are you talking He was on the The detective One more thing No that's That's Columbo Oh I'm sorry

That's crazy Tommy Conwell Yeah Isn't that cool Number six On the A side This is good This is very laser focused

Specific information Cole Cole family Vic Sadut Sadut David Duran Alright side B Tommy Conwell's

Young Ramblers So he has A solo track And then And then he told the Ramblers Get the fuck in here We're making a track For this con

Then Honor Society Then The Snap Then Experimental Products Wow Bats Without Flesh Who I want to hear With their title track Or their number one track Squeeze My Brain That sounds cool Then Experimental Products. Wow. Bats Without Flesh, who I want to hear, with their number one track, Squeeze My Brain.

That sounds cool. Pascal's Army. Power Trash, Wolf's Blood. And then The Moners, Close It Out Again. Oh, wow. Bookend it. Or not The Moners. It's just called Moners.

Moner. Many thanks to Tommy Conwell and the Young Rumblers for use of some great songs and the guest list oh they got him on the he got him on the guest list he got for like a wedding or something yeah that's cool family is not a local band but the slot was open for any local bands who sent me a tape you could be next send me a tape and i'm not sure if there's any others in this series but it's super cool um at the beginning of the honor society track they make reference to something called outdoor cabaret and do you guys know what that is no outdoor cabaret was a music series in the in the mid to early 80s on market street richie i was texting him this morning he said it was by the queen and he said it was like blocks

and blocks it was like thousands of people would come to this outdoor it was called outdoor cabaret and bands like the Hooters Which is another Delaware band That was famous They would play George Thorogood And the Delaware Destroyers Would play

And then Richie's band Honor Society would play Honor Society Yeah super awesome Piece of Delaware history Jamie this tape is guaranteed If defected Contact me

Jerry Lehane Should we contact him Holy shit Jerry cuts grass That's Jerry cuts grass Jamie Is it really? Joby, you alright, man?

You knocked your coffee over That's crazy Do you need to like Give any backstory to this or anything? Yeah, I don't know who that is To be honest Oh, I'll tell it off air But that's crazy

So I bet Jerry's band is moaners Well, do you want to give like A little information about how Jerry cuts grass is a local guy Around Newark He'll cut your grass Who's, you know He's a hoarder about how like Jerry Cuts Grass is a local guy around Newark he'll cut your grass who's you know

he's a hoarder and he cuts people's grass and he used to put up these little like flyers with the cut the little thing you know

cut the tag yeah and it just had his phone number and they just said Jerry Cuts Grass and he probably put this he's and unfortunately he's

you know a little like delusional and he says he wrote songs for the Rolling Stones wait is it Jerry Lehane III is that his name I'm not sure but he He's a little delusional, and he says he wrote songs for the Rolling Stones. Wait, is it Jerry Lehane III? Is that his name?

I'm not sure, but his family owns Lehane Bus Company, which is a local Delaware bus company that my friend Bill Lehane was a member of that family. So Jerry's his uncle. Because there's a Moner's tape on Discogs. If it says Jerry Lehane III, then that's him. Yeah. That's definitely him. Yeah. I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. We're like little We're detectives. We're like

Columbia. Delaware historians. He made weird music in the 80s because someone made a band camp for him a while ago. Someone put up all these old recordings. Yeah. And then someone actually No, someone was living next to him in Newark and jammed with him. Okay. Like currently. Because he still plays music. Have you, Jamie, have you listened to this entire comp yet? I've only someone was living next to him in newark and jammed with him okay like currently because he

still like plays music have you jamie have you listened to this entire comp yet i've only listened to the honor society i just found because we're like rearranging my uh living room i found a handwritten note that because he used to cut my grass that he wrote like like i can't remember what the note says now but i saved it he was He was like, all the grass is cut, thanks. Yeah. Yeah. And actually, you know what? It actually might have been after I had stopped having him cut my grass, because I fixed my lawnmower, and I think he was like, don't forget about me, I used to cut your grass.

Yeah. Yeah. I like how, like, so all this was a segue, because, like, cutting grass is a lot like farming. Yeah, you have to cut grass. So I feel like I'm involved in all this segueing, too, right? Wow. Mike has made his way into it.

I made my way into it so me too right guys Oh yeah we already talked about negotiations People had a mean nickname for him That I'm not going to say No of course not Well this Moner's tape is on Discogs And it's never been sold before It's in three people have it and it's in eight people's want list

And I just put it in my want list It's a lo-fi punk album And it's got Ronald Reagan on the like yeah he made weird kind of like punk rock opera music looks cool yeah i want to hear it i'll yeah i really want to listen to the rest of this tape but i haven't gotten a chance to listen to my new nakamichi this is blowing my mind the nakamichi all right let's play is there anything okay before we do is there any last thing you need to say about the nakamichi deck jamie i'm gonna make a request and i don't make many requests on this podcast he doesn't uh-huh can you also play a moaners track mike can we do that you think you

think we can do that i think in honor of jerry lahane jerry cuts grass let me check okay can you play two tracks from this tape survey said said. It went through. Thank you. It went through. Thank you. Okay. You want to start off with the Moner's one and then end with the Honor Society? He might have it queued up. I'm not sure.

I have it queued up to Honor Society, but we'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll figure it out. I'll get there. Yeah, I can do all this in post. Yeah. I do very creative mixing. I get creative with it. I got one more Nakamichi song for you.

I'd love to. I'd love to hear it My Nakamichi goes 185 Is that the RPMs of the motor? Yeah Oh it's got azimuth control

you can do type 1 type 2 metal I don't have any metal tapes Oh really? I have like Cannibal Corpse Yeah That's funny. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 The © BF-WATCH TV 2021 © transcript Emily Beynon Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. The The The The The Thank you. Thank you. so

so This is night, it's my drive, it's the drive, love it or not, big brother This watch is real Up the hall, on the door, on the wall, on the door, big brother This watch is real Look around what you say, They are bound to put you away Big brother Is watching you What you say, what you love

How you play, how you love Big brother Is watching you Hell is here, live in fear Make it here, shed it here Big brother You can tell it's my pride In the dark Love you a fucking brother

It's what she's new You got the hell on the door On the wall, on the floor Big brother It's what you The other one on the floor On the wall, on the floor Big brother It's watching you You go round, what you say They all have to put you away Big brother

It's watching you What you say, what you are I'm saying to my big brother It's watching you Tell your kids, it's what you need. I just need to be a man, just to be a man. It's what you need, it's what you need. Big boys just want you.

What you say, how you play, Are you ready? I'm watching you, big brother, watching you. I'm on the phone, on the phone, on the phone, on the phone. Big brother. Big brother's watching you. Watch what you say. Thank you. I'm making this press happen. Out of Honor Society, Mr. Dean Wilson. Welcome to the show. Thanks, Bob.

What you been up to? Honor Society's been doing really well. Saw you at the outdoor cabaret last June. That was the last time I caught you live. Well, where have you been, Bob? I've been looking for you. Haven't been out, yeah. A lot of bands are releasing cassettes now rather than having to spend the money

and pressing up things. I mean, you can get some nice packaging on a cassette, too. Sure. Everybody has a box. I wonder if I'll ever change The summer's turned to winter and I'm still the same A year from now I'll laugh about these things At my father I can't leave now, there's too much doubt and the months are gone Why should I go when the colds will blow and it feels like home Five years from now

I'll laugh about this The bonfire Bonfire and the dance by the water Backwater Bonfire and the dance by the water Backwater Backwater Backwater

These empty rooms were once more of someone's love And everything they owned and loved was kept inside Take you somehow, this house won't be there Above my mind At the bar fire Bar fire and we dance by the water Backwater Bar fire and we dance by the water Backwater Blackwater, blackwater You walk into me as a blue-eyed child

And I sense your breath thickening And the feathers of your hair The window opens wide and lets in the open air She looks you in your face Try your best to find me guitar solo Ho, ho, ho, ho Bon Bon and we dance by the water Black water Bon Bon and we dance by the water

Black water Bon Bon and We dance by the water Blackwater Blackwater Blackwater We dance by the water Blackwater Blackwater Blackwater

Blackwater Blackwater Blackwater That's what it is That's what it is That's what it is