Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #215 | 3.17.26

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Table, Total Irrelevance, Meat Puppets, Kayo Dot, Dick Dunn, Ironing, Merryl, Spooky Visions, Shanes Jones, Marcloid & Woods Law Group, Zaranka, and a call from the NYC Tape Fair

And here's a cassette that I grew up with learning to rap, learning to breakdance too. Tabs out, cassette podcast, episode number 250. 215. I'm Mike. I'm Joe. I'm Jamie. How you guys doing? Doing good.

Tired. Tired. Yeah, we got to. I couldn't get up this morning. St. Paddy's Day last night. I couldn't get it up. this morning. Jamie, coming in hot with the dirty.

You know, I did a little preparation for this episode today. Oh, you did. I'm sorry, Mike, you were about to say something. No, I was just going to talk about how you couldn't give it up. When I was in the car this morning, you know how, see, you can cut this out if it thinks we're going to get me canceled because, oh, my God, Jamie, what are you about to do? Oh, I have chat GPT and saw my phone.

I would just like to say real quick, I don't know Jamie that well. I haven't known him that long and he only shows up because he made a copy to the key to my house. Well, there's just a lot of very vocal anti-AI voices online for good reason, but I still use it because I find it useful. But I said,

hey, I'm on my way to Mike's house for Tabs Out. And what would be funny for the podcast? No, wait, stop, Jamie, stop. No, keep going, I love it. This is, I think anyone, I think people who even, I think even like tech oligarchs who were like really focusing

all of their energy on AI right now would hate you for this. They're like, now this is not what it's used for. You don't ask what you want to do when you get to Mike's house. Okay. I said, give me some podcast banter I can use. And so here's what it came up with. So you know, you're recording a really good episode when the only thing standing between you and pure audio gold is a rogue coffee spill or a cat deciding to join as a surprise guest host. It's pretty good. Yeah. Pretty good. You didn't even tell it to like to like listen to a few episodes. It tabs out to kind of get the vibe. Well, this is in the chat. It's already baked in the LLM.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It knows where he's going. He didn't start a new little, yeah. So check this out. And if Mike makes fun of my mom, give me a good comeback. Are you ready? Hey, Mike, you can roast. Wait, I didn't do it yet.

I didn't do it yet. Why don't you hold that in the holster? I don't know when I do it, because you know I'm going to do it. I'm going to lose this. Kind of like how I did your mom last night. He's going to make fun of my, okay, there you go. Yeah. Hey, Mike, you can roast me all you want, but let's leave my mom out of this.

She's got way better comebacks than I do. I came on her back last night I'll cut that out I'll cut that out I'll cut that out I'll you know what for that entire part where you're doing that

just so you don't get canceled Jamie I'll have one long beep when I do the edit Why would you get canceled? Here's what we're going to do with that whole thing you just said Here's how I'm going to edit it down The listener's going to hear you say

I hope this doesn't get me canceled And then there's going to be a series of beeps And then it's going to come in right back now And I'm going to be like, Geez, Jamie. Seriously. Yeah. I'm just,

yeah. Epstein, wow. All right. Before we play any tapes. Yeah. What do you want to talk about? Well, I want to talk about the preamble ramble.

It's not a preamble ramble because it's just like a tape thing. But the tapes we play are always tapes, but this proves that, well, we've proven that tapes can also be paper because they're the books about tapes that have been written.

But also, I wanted to say that these, now they're calling these zines. These things called save ferric. These came in the mail from Jolly Old London. That's a great name. It's just these,

I just want, it's one sheet of paper just fold it. Oh yeah. And it's just a tiny little cassette culture fancy. Oh, interesting. Yeah, and I thought it was like,

it's just a cute little thing. Maybe you read it while you're like in line to use a bathroom somewhere. There's a, you got a weight, but not a long wait. A role-playing game called Mothership. And they, They make a lot of little adventures that are in this format.

It's just one sheet of paper folded like this. Yeah, there's two issues of these so far. And they came in the mail. And I just wanted to say thank you. And there's a little shoutout to us in there. So we got. We got a label interview. We got some tape reviews.

J-card gems, 83. Oh, look at that on the back. It said three random J-cards. We got Iron Maiden. Oh, number of the beast or? power slave. Too scary for me. Peace of mind.

Oh, I always forget about peace of mind. Pizza mind. Pizza mind. REM's murmur. And then a Z-X spectrum tape called jetpack. Nice. I wish it was in color, because I'm sure that jetpack cover is sick.

The color printing on these one sheets, though, that's going to boost the price. Support the zine, buy me a coffee. And they're making it free. There's a QR code to buy this person a coffee, which probably steals your identity. Oh, yeah. And then I got to convert.

is this is, I'm not scanning. Oh, we have an ad on the back. It's like a little shout-out. There's a tabs-out plug? It's a tabs-out shout-out. Yeah, it's, find more cassettes and culture with these fellow enthusiasts, and there's like a whole bunch of logos.

So it's called Save Ferric. A little cheeky pun on Save Ferris, I assume. Yep. I guess they just got Ferris Bueller's Day off over in England. They might, the streaming services just uploaded it. The American Cinema. Or they're really like Scott? A couple paper.

Oh damn, you think this is a pun on a reference? Yeah, what's the name on the inside? There's someone's name, contact information. Mike Flaherty. Mike Flaherty. So thanks for sending those over. Everybody check that out if you're into one piece of paper about cassette culture. If you like one piece of paper about cassette culture, this is like extremely your shit.

Yeah. I like this little column called Fast Forward or Rewind. Should you buy a new Walkman? Oh. What? Does it just say yes or no? You just put, Jamie, you just put in your name,

and it tells you, this is... No, then there's a... There's says the new, and they're talking about the two main contenders from, are from,

we are rewind, and F-I-I-O, to F, capital F, lower-case I, lower-case I, capital O. They make walk-men, walk-mans.

Yeah, I have the, We-R-R-R-R-Wand one. I bought that a little. They're from Italy. It's very nice. It's Bluetooth, Jamie. metal click click

yeah that's where Ferrari's from so yeah they're doing something right over there maxel's also jump back into the market

but is only currently available in Japan interesting then vintage vintage vintage is hard most people will say they are way better with megabase

and Dolby unlike Jamie who if you were listening earlier couldn't get it up vintage is hard now people usually skip to this spot to start the episode

label interview with blue tapes Oh, there you go. Yeah, so check that out. From England. Check this out. I'm going to check it out myself later. Maybe on the can.

Okay. Yeah, this is a good, like I was saying, for a short, like, if you got a little poop. Yeah. Like, if you don't really, if you got to really go, you're going to bust out, like, a maximum rock and roll and really finger-thruly. High bias by Mark Masters. Yeah, exactly. That's the thing. And put this, Mark, if you're putting out another copy of another issue of the book, you want a little blur from the back.

If you got to take a real big shit, you read high bias. But if you just got a squibious. Just a quick one. You just squeeze out one. Well, I didn't go yet this morning, so maybe keep that on deck next to me. Keep it on deck. That's mine. An upper decker.

If you're going to do an upper decker. A lot of potty humor this morning. So good. All right, Jamie. Literally. Why don't you start? Why don't you pick a tape? Let's do a hard pivot. Let's do a hard pivot from this to cassette tapes.

I'm trying to find another poop bun. but I'll listen to this one. How is this the table bit? Mike walked by my computer earlier and he said, why do you have a picture of a table on your computer? And I'll tell you why. I was doing a little prep work for the first tape I'm going to play tonight by an artist named table.

Okay, because you did tell me when I said, why do you have a picture of a table on your screen? You said I'm doing some prep work. No, he said I'm working on something. Yeah, and I couldn't figure out what that possibly meant. He's building the table. So the artist is table and the The title is table gristle

The tape Yeah, I think the tape name is table gristle Oh, I hate table gristle. What is this? They just fucking wrote with a sharpy, old sloppy table On a clear tape. I'm going to tell you something. Now you've seen this.

You know this person. Oh my God, I wish I didn't. Look at this. And I'm going to give you five guesses. Okay, the first guess is Alex Holman. That their, the font resolution, their computer can only get up

60. Yeah. See? On the DPI. Oh, yeah. So this is someone that we know because we played one of their taste before or we know that on the personal level. That's your first question. Oh, I didn't know. Those are two questions.

I don't know if we ever... Wait, how many questions do I get? Because I might want to retract. I like that on the cover, it's table, but it's a picture of a chair. That's so experimental. Oh, there's a little table if you fold it out. There's a tiny little folding. table. Okay.

So, I don't know. Like a tray table? Like a... Yeah, but it's like small and long. I don't know if you've played this person on the show before, but you definitely have met them in person. Definitely. Okay. Let me look at the tape. Are they from here? Are they, that's another question? Are they from here? Delaware. They're from Delaware. Oh. Is it you? It's not me. I have... I have... What, uh, where is rotten princess records from? Oh, rotten princess records is a label out of Portland, Oregon. Okay.

Oh, rotten princess. I saw that Pixar film, actually. I don't know why I'm... I did that one the other day, and I thought it was really funny. No one left. Pixar. P.I. C.Z.R. Yeah, yeah. No one left.

That happens. When you text those stuff, Joe, sometimes we laugh and we just don't text that back. I'll throw you a ha-ha. All right? I'll throw you a ha-ha. Thanks. So table, table gristle. The tracks are called Discipline 1 through 4. It's on...

Fable Princess, number 150... Fable Princess. Rotten Princess. Number 156. Yep. And I want to play the full A-side because it's only six minutes long. Oh, Christ.

So, does that give you a clue of who it is yet, or no? You know this person. They would put out a short tape on a weird label in Portland. Are they from Dover? Yes. Is this Dan's All-Neil?

It's Dance-All-Neil. Oh, all right. It's new? It's for 2020. I meant to play it last year, but I got caught up. I forgot. I was busy filling out my taxes or something. I don't know.

But I got a st. an, they're an interesting guy. There definitely is, and I don't think I would have noticed it. A chair on the cover. That's really good. It's a nice detail.

Okay, from last year, 2025. Yeah, I think kind of later last year. What can we expect from this? I'm assuming... Dan's home... Like that. It's a little bit. bit more subdued than that as you know dance on neal's kind of the same age as us so he's he's mellowed out a

little bit but it is it still is a noise record um it still is a noise record um and um you know this label um frank stick boy frank has some records on it oh all right he'll has the record on it um but yeah they have a lot of releases and they're all kind of this very DIY homemade aesthetic that probably joe doesn't like but no hate it yep yeah yeah sorry hate it yep um to give people a a frame of reference. Dansell O'Neill is a guy who he works, he cuts hair, and I think the other people who cut, I think everyone

who comes in there to get their haircut are like 80 year old women. And he's like, imagine 80 year old women getting their haircut by like an extreme G.G. Allen fan. Right. It's like that's what you're looking for. I think the proper term, he's a barber. A barber? Yeah.

Yeah, barber. What did I say? He cuts hair. Hair stylist. Okay. I'm not sure. You know, it's a difference between janitor and custodian. Really? Or flight attendant and custodian. You know, or secretary and administrative assistant. I mean, it's 2026, Mike.

Yeah, come on. He's going to get canceled. Shit. I knew it. I knew this was fucking boomerang back in me. All right, Joby, go ahead. All right. If you have something, if you have like a household thing. You're going to play another dance on Neil record? No, but it goes right with yours. Okay. This band's from Dover.

Really? Oh, shit. Doverblock, Mike. Doverblock. I hope you have something from Dover. Dover, you kind of... There's a lot of Dover's New Hampshire. There's Dover in England. This is total irrevelance. Epic of Woe. And then in parentheses, Time of Horror.

Is this black metal? No, this is like a thrash band from 1990, from Dover. Cool. Where did this... Where did this surface? This surface, my friend Vinnie, let me borrow this. Hey, O'Vinney! Hey, O'Vinney! Hey, O'Vinney! And he got it.

from like his friend's dad's collection of tapes. And this was just in there. Oh, that's cool. A little gem in like probably a bunch of like, kind of like just what you would expect in a friend's dad's tape collection. I guess, yeah. But yeah, so this band.

Some deaf leopard. From Dover. They're like a thrash band. I've actually, I've only listened to it on YouTube, so I haven't listened to the tape yet. This was recorded. Chris got excited because it was recorded at Apollo Studios by Bill Sweezy.

He's on the archive, the Delaware Music Archive. He had a recording studio in Wilmington. What's the artist's name again? It's total irrelevance. Total irrelevance at all. Total irrelevance. What is it?

Characature. What is it? Can we get to... I don't think it's on discogs. Oh, what? Jamie's losing his mind right now. Unless I can't spell irrelevance. That's a hard word is.

It is. I-R-R-E-L-V-A-N-C-E. Oh, I nailed it. No, it's not on. the cover's sick it's got a little skull guy with the with the hair like total 80s 90s with the flipped up hat and the hat says so what oh hell yeah and there's a little planet and then a mushroom cloud what i really like about this tape is they have a an extra special thank you list uh their thank you list is prioritized and then and they thank little gary's tattoos which i like

because little gary was a dover tattooer um they have a special thank you list And then they have a special Fuck You list. Oh, oh, can we hear some of them? Yeah. How about this? You say one and I'll tell you which list it's on. Let's get into it.

All right. A certain large music store in a certain mall within the Dover area. Special thank you. That's a fuck you. A certain band we open for, especially the drummer.

Thank you. Fuck you. Hornstruck. Ford pickup trucks. Fuck you. Yep. Oh, really? Yeah.

The white majority government of South Africa. I'm not only going to joke about that one. That's a fuck you. Okay. The rebel flag. Let's hope. Let's just hope. It's a fuck you. I'm reading only the fuck you's.

Okay. You know what I caught on to that. I didn't catch on. Give me a thank you. Let's get positive. Jesus Christ, these bands. Any liquor store on the face of the planet that sells beer. Really?

Any face? Even a Nazi-owned liquor store? Yeah. Jamie's like, even that Nazi-owned liquor store I go to? Yeah. He just goes there to buy snacks. He doesn't drink.

Silver Surfer, Galactus, the Fantastic Four, and the Power Cosmic. Those are thank yous. So, comic books. Mm-hmm. In case people didn't know.

I mean, the thank you list is mostly people's names. But I do love the fuck you list, because then what else we got? Tipper Gore. Oh, PMRC. No, you don't want that. Any Nazi regime, anywhere in the world. It's a shame her

and Al couldn't make that marriage work. Exxon. That was right. When was Exxon Valdez? 91? I don't think it actually I don't think it ever happened. That's a myth. All the people that won't let us play

their Lamo halls. Why would you want to play a Lameau Hall? Exxon of Valdiz here was 89. Same year as Tiennman Square. All right, so yeah. So that's why, yeah. Did they say fuck you to Tienman Square? because if they don't, I got a problem with that.

I'm assuming everything not on the thank you list. They like, yeah. They're cool with it. The Berlin Wall, they're fine with that. So, yeah, so I'm excited for this tape. Total relevance.

What's on the cover here? Oh, I told you about the cover. Be careful with that J-card. You might have one of the only copies. This is the little planet and the mushroom cloud. Oh, and this is a cloud. Oh, you know it's old, because this is, look, how,

this Norelco case has seen better days. It's been in some smoky room. Yeah, a little cloudy. Oh, the stories this thing could tell. Like, I remember back in 80s. Oh, let me see the nubs. Let me see the nubs, actually, because these are classic vintage nubs.

I bet you could take your little Dremel tool, a little brush attachment, brush that. Well, not, yeah, we would need a buffer wheel. A buffer wheel. I'd have to buy the special wax. Don't buy that stuff because I make it. And it's easy to make. It's just a classic nub.

nothing crazy here. Oh, this is, yeah, I look this layout. This is, uh, you can tell someone drew this on like, inside their notebook. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fucking rules. All right. And then I got follow this up. I don't, I have Dover stuff, but not that I had planned on playing. You know what? I do have, I have a tie-in. Oh, give it to me. Okay. So do you guys know, oops, I didn't mean to do any of that. I didn't, this, none of this should be happening right now. I'm sorry. I can't I usually do that one. So there is a diner on Union Street in Wilmington, Delaware, called Cozy Corner. Cozy Corner.

You guys familiar with Cozy Corner? Yeah. No, I'm not. I've never been there. I passed it. Cozy with a K. Cozy with a K as well. And the owner...

I'm glad it's not Cozy Corner Cafe. I am also glad, yeah. So the owner of this place, older gentlemen, who is in a... social distortion cover band. I'm sorry, a social distortion tribute band. Tribute band. Tribute band, which is different, which we had a discussion on the phone about the difference.

And it got me down a long rabbit hole about tribute bands. And how I learned that there are like fests, like weekend fest where you go camping and it's called like TributeCon or something. And there's like a Fleetwood Mac tribute band

and a Guns and Roses tribute band and you just go there and you just fucking vibe out to tribute bands. Yeah. And it's just, just diving into the world, I just thought it was, it was like,

this is nuts. I didn't know this existed. I didn't know how serious it was taken. Yeah, people, I guess, are into it. That probably one of,

someone's favorite band is a tribute band. Yeah, get the let out plays at the electric factory or Franklin Musical. Yeah. I was trying to think

of a good name for a social distortion tribute band. There's a few of them. There's a few of them. I don't want to say the name of his because I don't know

if I 100% remember it. I remember those one called well, SoCal Distortion in Southern California. Okay. Kudos. That's good. That's good.

That works. But the thing about this that's wild is after I go down this rabbit hole and I'm like, all these tribute bands and I had never,

I don't really listen to social distortion. Yeah, me neither. Me neither. So the week I do this, a package comes in the mail with four bootleg tapes

from a cassette label called Das Boots. Das Boots. Das Boots. And one of them is a social distortion. Smash the Glass Demos 80 and 82.

I was like, that's fucking wild. This is so crazy. And all of these tapes, there's a T-S-O-L one, a dictator's tape. Actually, I played the Faith No More tape last episode.

or this episode. But all the, this DOS boots, they, and listen, they told me, they said, please don't tell anyone who we are. I know who they are. Yeah, they said, don't dox them. Don't do them. But guess what? What are you going to do for me?

How about this? Keep these tapes coming. Yeah, yeah. And there's a few back catalog ones I noticed that you didn't send. So how about every, how about I give out your address one character at a time every time you don't send me some of these tapes? they're all in these paper O cards Yeah check them out

I used to have a co-worker who was a really big dictators fan Like not of actual dictators but the band of I'm a student of history And I've studied all kinds and all sorts And I'm into the dictators And maybe this is common knowledge But like the singer from the dictators Was a wrestler named Dick Manitoba

Oh I didn't know that I don't know anything about the dictators Yeah they're a good band So one of the tapes is a meat puppets tape first album out takes from 1981 um and you know what's funny is I don't know why

but I feel like almost my entire life I associated meat puppets with like the Seattle scene Nirvana unplugged Nirvana unplugged like I always maybe it was that maybe it was because I think them and mud honey I discovered like at the same time like on the same mixtape or something like that and like

Oh I like this one eighth grade um yeah meat Puppets and mud honey, we're always near Mr. Bungle in all the mail order catalogs, so I always just heard those names, M-the-Hoople, all those M-names. I never knew who they were when I was a kid. Maybe that had something to do with it, too, how I have my, my mud-honey records and my Mead Puppet records are just so close to each other. Where were, where were, me-puppets from? Where were they from, Phoenix, Arizona? I'm not sure. Oh, all right. Well, you can't. Meat Puppets. Where from?

Where from? Meet Puppets. We're an American rock band for it in Phoenix, Phoenix, Arizona. In 1982, which I guess is earlier than I thought. It's one of those things you find out a band They already have had their time. If we were 10 years older, we would know all this stuff. Maybe. Maybe. 10 years younger or 10 years older.

But I'm just not at the right age to know where the me puppets are from. But this tape, I'm going to play There's a chunk of it, but there is an abruptly cut off Creedence Clearwater Revival cover. You are definitely getting this taken off the website. Oh, you think it's... We're getting an S-CAP take down.

We have a process for this now. Okay, all right. What Creedon song is it? Now I don't remember. We'll find out. We'll find out. We'll find out we played it. I have some written here.

What is it about this? Das Boots Tapes presents the discarded first two studio. from the Meepuppets' first album, 111881 and 1124.81 sessions. A wild little glimpse into the recording process leading up to the band's debut LP. Let me give you a little primer on Toilets 101. Speaking of bootlegs. This is a bootleg. I just bought a fun bootleg on the internet. You know what Mercari is? It's a website that you buy stuff.

Ricari, is that like the poop that babies have before real poop? Anyway. I just got the new Predator movie, Predator Badlands, bootleg on VHS. Like, they made the cover and everything. Oh, really? Yeah, it's awesome. That was like, I would just watch that movie.

It's like the worst movie I've ever seen. What? I love that movie. Really? Yeah, we'll talk about that off air. I thought Predator Badlands was so sick. They don't show him naked enough. The old Predator movies, I feel like you saw he was hanging a lot of Predator, Dong.

But he's invisible in most of the movies. Yeah, but I had special. classes. Whenever the predator gets invisible, he takes all of his clothes off, hangs huge dawn. I loved it. You know, guys, we've been going 25 minutes before the first piece of music. All right, go play now. I'll put a lot of this off. It's not a record. Tapes, Jamie. Oh, no, this isn't a record podcast. Record store day is coming up pretty soon. Oh, good, good. I'll have to see what's coming out. All right, let's place. have them look at 100, 100 different tapes of his.

That was tables. Table. Jamie, I'm still... Me too. You don't have to answer it, but I still don't know why you had the picture of the table. I also am confused. What is he working on? Don't answer it, but just know that I don't know why you had...

I don't know why you had the table on your screen. And then total irrelevance from 1990, you said? 1990. Dover, Delaware. Two Dover Delaware artists there. Go to Joe. And then... Mud honey. Me puppets.

Oh, me puppet. Me puppets on the Das Boot tape. And they have way more than I thought they have. So I want the television demos. I want the flipper unreleased stuff. And can you buy these on their band camp? Yeah, there's... I googled something here.

I found like a disher that has a bunch. Oh, that's what you said. They don't have a band camp. told me you can get them from certain distros. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. The void one I want.

I want a bunch of these. Yeah. So the dead boys one I want. I'll even take the blondie one. You know what? Send them all. And then I'll send back what I don't want. That'll be easier.

All right. Oh shit. Jamie, were we supposed to be skitting someone on the line? Did you send them a... I didn't do that yet. I forgot. You want to do it right now?

I'll do that now. But I want to tell you real quick, I got a zinger for you. I said, give me a good insult. I can use against Mike's mom. He's still doing this? And it says, they're going to keep it lighthearted. So, hey, I'm pretty sure Mike's mom

could outjoke both of us anyway. That's it. All right. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, train this, uh, let's sunset this one. Train this chat. You need to put in some George Carlin

for reference material. Yeah, how about this? They call her a tater salad. Like, that's funny. That's funny. All right. Send that person the invite, and then when they chime in, they'll chime in. So we have a guest coming up at some point, possibly, if Jamie didn't screw this up,

from the New York City Tape Fair. There's a New York City Tape Fair that's going on. I think it's the second one, I believe, and it's in May, possibly. We'll know more once this person joins us. Yeah, I see them on Instagram. They have only two of my friends follow them. Oh, well. The tape player and Keith Fullerton Whitman.

He's not really your friend. I think Mike's friends with him. Oh, Mike's friends with him. No, Mike pissed him off. I know. Let's not talk about that. All right, Jamie, you want to, let's do... Joe, no, you start.

I want you to start. All right, I'm playing another old one. Oh, wow. Throwbacks. I can't remember what year of this came out. It might be like 2000, so it's not that old. 2000 is still kind of old. It's still kind of old.

It's 2026, yeah. It's old. This is a tape on Hydrahead. Okay, yeah. Aaron, what is his name? Was in that band, Isis? He was in Isis. I can't remember what his name is.

Aaron Turner. Aaron Turner, yes. Songs from the Hydrahead Hype Machine Volume 1, or did you mean Hawaiian Slovakia? I know what this is, Joe. I don't know what this is. Because you texted me about it.

I texted you about this. This is a comp. Is this like a legit Hydrahead Records comp? Yeah. Hydrohead 666, 203. Too mean, too, rough. And we got, you know, a whole bunch of artists across the Hydrahead that have all been on Hydrahead. We got Oxbow, Daughters, Torch, Harvey Milk, Kaven, Zaster, Keel Hall, and...

And... And... And... ...austerity program, big business. And... K.O. Dot. Jamie's favorite Jamie he was had you had so much prep for that coming

and that why did you play that song I couldn't find a good one I don't have a ding ding ding ding one You were like and and and So as a special treat to Jamie we will play the K-O dot song Which is the first song on Side B Does that need to be rewound? For side B? No that's all way around

I like how you said K-O dot K-O dot K-O dot I can I'll tell you right now two bands on this tape, owe me money. Let's say, daughters. Daughters owes me money. This is all from about the same era.

If we're talking about early 2000s, daughters owes me money and a drummer from one of these bands owes me money. Oh, drummer from what other band? I bought a daughter's record from you for 50 bucks, Mike. Did you really? Yeah. 50 bucks?

I think so. I really fucking raked you. Jesus Christ. What other band? You want to buy some other shit for you? Yeah, you got some. You got. Oh, you'll have time to think about it

why we're playing the K-O-DOT. Okay. K-O-Dot. So what's our line up here with the K-O-Doters? Is it from... Are these songs from? Is like a sampler? Or are we talking about unreleased?

I have no idea. Not that I would know. I'm guessing it's a sampler. No, this is a sampler. Yeah, it's... Here we go. It says it. Taken from the Coyote CDLP.

Oh, nice. Hydrohead 198. You familiar with that one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh! I should probably play the clip. This is weird.

It has the times, this K-O. Dot song is an 11-minute song, by the way. Oh, yes, we got time, yeah. That's a lot of bandwidth. It has, it says that, you know, the KO. dot, now I'm very self-conscious about how I say it. Whisper ineffable. Has the time, 11 minutes, 14 seconds.

Okay. And it has, says 113.4 megabytes slash taken from the Coyote CD-LP, Hydrohead 666-198. It all has the megabytes next to it. Every track is. Every track has the megabytes. Is there a reason for that?

I don't know. Like, is it reference to something else, like an aesthetic with the comp itself? I have no idea. Just someone knew that information. At the time... Aaron Turner knew that information how much. Like, that was... This probably came out the year you could right click on a file and click info.

And he was like, whoa, he's calling up all of his buddies. He's like, let me think... Who's a person from this era? He's called up Steve O'Malley. Yeah. Steve, Steve, open. up, open up an M.B.3. You can see the megabytes on it, Steve. I used to love, remember, labels used to do, like, sampler CDs? Oh, yeah. I love the relapse

sampler. The relapse records. It come in, like, a piece of paper. Yeah. And then you get that piece of paper, and you put it into an actual jewel case. Mm. Oh, I, yeah, that wasn't cool. I, had the Century Media Sample's cool. Oh, Century Media Sample's cool. That's on, Jay, but don't worry about it. Those came in a proper cardboard sleeve. that they didn't come in paper. I thought the relapse ones came in a little cardboard thing too, but I don't really remember. This is so, this, I would look at this and assume it's not a Hydrohead official thing.

I mean, I know it is. I see the logo right there. But just like, the look of that label was so, like, especially compared to other labels in the genre at the time, was so put together. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely seems pretty. It was like a graphic designer when no one really knew what graphic design was yet. Yeah.

And this seems very DIY. It's just paper. This looks like a piece of shit. Yeah. This looks like a piece of shit. I don't know what's on this cover. I can't see. It's a bad photocopy.

Somebody, what's somebody barbecue in on there? I don't know what that is. I think it's Hawaiian Slovakia. Oh, that makes sense because that's in the title. It's in the title. Actually, I have no idea what's going on in the cover. It looks like a probe. She's all enough to be my mother.

All right, that's what I got. What do you got? So you go play the Keododot. Cato. Coyote. Coyote. All right, that's cool. Are you familiar with that record, Jamie?

A little bit, yeah. It's not a, you know, I'm most familiar with choirs of the eye on Zotic, but yeah. You're going to get him started? You're really going to get him started? We're talking about. Who's that John Soren's label? Avonzoic and you got

John Zorn. Jamie, please. Mr. Bungle put something on that, on that label? On Zotic, no. Trace Spruence has had a couple things. Trevor Dunn.

had a couple things, but yeah. If you let him do this, he'll do this all day. I know, I know. He's a bunglehead. I don't want to, yeah, I don't, he's going to say, well, actually, let me, uh, I have, I actually brought a few dossiers with me. I open, let me open up my bungal files. No, thank you, Jamie.

Pick a tape, pick a, uh, cassette tape to play. All right, I got, um, shit, don't bullshit me. Bullshit. I got a tape on bullshit noise productions. You said, You guys are. Oh,

shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. You guys know a bullshit noise productions?

I don't. This is, Mike sent me this one over text. I like how calculated your sound clips are. Yeah,

yeah, I have all prepped. That's why I come up here early. Do you have, like the table one? Do you have a picture of shit on your screen right now? Will I look on your computer

and see a turn? Is this like an image to, two sound clip thing you just put in a whole much of pictures of poop and you also put that's how I search the pictures

of Arnold Schwarzenegger That's why I'm doing it That's what I'm getting all the best ones right now So Mike I got a little bone to pick with you at first But you sent me this tape Over text and I bought it Yeah

It's an artist living room Who I think is Matthew Reese's I'm seeing I'm seeing your theme now Table Living Room Oh he's putting together A little like Dollhouse

A little. He's constructing a virtual home from the cassette tape titles and stuff. Yeah, it's a little, yeah. Wow. But it's a split with Dick Dunn. That's what I said. And, but Mike, this is not a new release. No, it's not. They got you.

They pranked you. Because it's new on Band Camp. It had never been on Band Camp before, but I guess this was just back catalog stuff. So I bought it, and then I'm trying to look up the. year now. That's my little band camp tip to everybody. Egg on my

can't go on the end of year list now. I'm doing a little bank camp tips for everybody right now. Take your old shit and put it on there and say

the release date is now and you can, everyone's while you'll trick a few people and they're thinking that's new. So you think this even though

if it was new you think this could have qualified for the end of the year list. I mean there's 200 tapes on that there's a lot of room

on there. A lot of stuff's qualified. If you didn't qualify for the list you're doing something bad. But this is from

2024. So based on our rules, it probably could technically make the list. If you... If you want to put this on the list, I'd be fine with that. I wouldn't use my veto power against that. All right. Well, I was going to play the Dick Dunn side

just because I have a bunch of stuff by living room already, and I wasn't familiar with Dick Dunn. But Dick Dunn has... It's like a band. They have like 100 releases. Most of them are on this bullshit noise productions label. Okay. So... Bullshit noise productions. That's funny.

I like it. This one is noisier. This is noisier than the table thing we just. played. I know living room is like a Dayton, Ohio artist. Where is Dick Dunn from? Dick Dunn is from... How many times... Indiana? Cocomo. I can't wait for Matthew Wheelock, our Instagram, the clipkeeper. I can't wait for him to have a Dick Dunn montage. How many times we've said Dick Dunn? Come on him's Kokomo. Cocomo, Indiana. Cokamo, Indiana.

You like this because there's trumpet. And you know what Dick Dunn's a reference from, or Richard Dunn? Oh, Richard Dunn. Richard Dawson, family feud. Tim and Eric Awesome show. I don't remember it, but there's a character named Richard Dunn, that's what the name Dick Dunn's from. Oh, the older fellow, right? With glasses?

I can't remember. It's been a while since I watched that show. He's like an older man with thick glasses. Yeah, that's Dick Dunn, huh? And he's not on this? What do you mean? The actual Dick Dunn? No, no, no.

They have too many releases. Oh, classic use of the Band-Aid. Oh, the Band-Aid. You hate those, don't you? Mm-hmm. The center label thing. I don't mind if it's from a certain year. I guess 2024, a band-day in 2025, is that good or bad?

Bad. It's like using every part of the animal, though. Yeah, I guess you're right. You have the labels, and then what are you going to throw that piece away? You're right, you're right. No, you don't throw the label away. You put it on this tape, the tape hangs around for like 10 years, and then the tape gets thrown away. The whole, you throw it away once.

It's called batch. It's called batch trash. Yeah. You don't throw, you collect all, you. your trash into one big trash and then you throw that all the way at once. All school are right here. That's how we're saving the planet, ladies and gentlemen. All right. Speaking of the planet, I want to focus in on a very specific part of it.

The southeast Georgia and surrounding states areas. All right. So we got K.O. Dot from Boston. We got Dick Dunn from Indiana. And now we got Georgia. We got Georgia and the surrounding areas. And the surrounding areas. Hooker Vision.

Florida, Alabama. keep going Mississippi I feel like there's one more right West Virginia Louisiana Louisiana Louisiana I don't have a map in front of me

Hooker Vision who's from Georgia and have done a lot in the past of like focusing on artists right in that area have put out a compilation called

Kreef Drick Kreef Jesus Christ Creek Drift I know right Creek Drift Mosaic A Field Guide to Southern

Cosmic. It is a cassette tape with 11 artists, Grant Evans, and motion sickness of time travel, who run the label. Some names you might know, Night's Sky Body, Ironing, Merrill, Eye Conduit. It's all people from that area of Georgia and the states surrounding Georgia. Okay. Cool. I'm going to play the first two tracks by Merrill and Ironing. Nice. Ironing I'm familiar with. Oldhead from Gainesville, Florida. Kind of runs. I wasn't going to say kind of runs with Hal McGee, but I don't think how

McGee can run at this point. Got to cut that one out. Just like a brisk walk, I think we're taking. Now we're all getting older. Come on. And then Merrill, I'm not familiar with. They're from Asheville, North Carolina. Do you remember, was there a hardcore band called Merrill? Yeah. Well, I don't know if they were hardcore.

What were they? Power violence. An emo band? Yeah, I think they were that early wave of like an emo band. Were they because, because I was thinking, were they on that comp, Southeast Hardcore, fuck yeah? No, no, I don't know. Because wouldn't that be something? I don't think they were on that.

There was a seven inch from like... They did a split with somebody. The late 90s called Southeast Hardcore, fuck yeah, that was focused on the same area. Who was on that? Like, asshole parade and Palatka. Yeah. But I want to say, God, it would love it. if there was a merrill on that as well.

Is this, are you looking at it up, Joe? Yeah, but I don't think, yeah, Uric, Placa, Cavity, asshole parade, end of the century party, and inhumanity. Oh, no, Merrill. God, I would have loved it. That was that cool connection. How do you spell Merrill?

This one is M-E-R-R-Y-L. Oh, the other than Merrill is M-E-R-I-L, I think. A different band. It's got to be a completely different band. but yeah they're the first two tracks on the comp the tape itself I've seen these before

these split color shells but they've you know I take it back because that's this is I'm thinking about something else this one's just green oh just green never mind it's just green

and it was just St. Patrick's Day so a little there you go there you go wait is when is St. Patrick's Day when is it officially? Yesterday. Oh it was yesterday well this episode probably won't be out

like a week from now. For some reason, I thought it was on Tuesday. I don't know. I don't keep up with, I don't celebrate Irish holidays. Yeah, did you want to speak on that for a bit? Because you were saying a lot beforehand about it. You were like potato-metato.

Yeah, you said, you started off, you came in, I said, what's up, Joe, and you said, potato-shmanado. And I was like, all right, here we go, we're going to get it. That's stupid. And then that's when I realized, oh, yeah, I forgot it. St. Patrick's Day, and Joe's going to go to this whole anti-Irish thing. Again. Again.

We got a lot to cut this. episode, don't we? This is our canceled episode. Yeah, but this also came out late last year. Yeah. Hey, I'm about to receive a phone call before we go to the tape. Oh, let's take this phone call. Yeah.

Do you want to, no, we'll just do it Delaware Dan style. This is not Delaware Dan calling. This is the new NYC tape fair calling. Yeah, open up, talk to them. They're calling all the way from New York, right? Yeah, this is probably, they got to use all their minutes. Hello, hold on a second. Hello, can you hear us?

Yeah, can you hear me? Who is this? Who is this? My God, what's up, guys? Who are you? Can you not hear me? This is Ricardo from the New York City tape fair. It's Ricardo from the New York City tape fair. Thank you so much for...

Thank you so much for calling in and telling us about your tape fair, Ricardo. This is the second one, this is the second one, right? Tapes are back. Tapes are back. Tapes are back. back. We did. Now, did that have anything to do? Did Mom Donnie have a hand in that? Mom Donnie,

he's working on a tape initiative, but we were, we laid the ground where tapes are back. I'm getting where it takes in an era of music streaming and So what is the New York City? What is it and when is it? So the New York City tape fair, picture like

a record fair, right? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. All right. You got it in your mind? It's slipping, so hurry up. Okay. Record fair.

But instead of records, it's tapes only. Tapes only. Their vinyl is not allowed at the tape fair. CDs are not allowed. Good for you. And what happens if someone comes... No Blu-rays. Now, you say, it says it's a tape fair.

That doesn't sound very fair. Well, I think it depends on who you're asking. In my opinion, I think it's fair that the tapers get their own special engagement. Yeah. They get their day

in the sun. So what are we talking about? Are there like labels that show up? Are we having people selling their personal collections? Are we having just distros? and stuff like that.

Who shows up? Who has... Who's on display at the New York City tape fair? So we got a little bit of everything. La La La.

We got... Last year, we had a couple tape labels. And then we had a couple of record stores come bring their... You just said the word record.

Yeah, you just... Now you're being kicked out, so I'm taking over. Yeah, well, you know, these record... Sorry, I said again. These stores that so mainly vinyl.

records. Sometimes they have a couple boxes of tapes in the basement that people don't generally want to pick up. So they took these boxes and they brought it to the tape fair and they sold out of everything. Now that sounds very appealing. You're saying that

there are these places that keep something in a basement that nobody wants. But once a year, I can come see you and you'll have them. They dust it off the boxes. They bring up their tapes and they sell them. And then, of course, we had a couple

just regular guys selling from their personal archive. Me being one of them, I sold some tapes last year myself. And next year, this year, we're hoping to have more of the same. Are there any, like, performances at the New York City Tape Fair?

I, that would be really cool. Okay, so I'm already punching this up. Yeah. Okay, good. We got to get a performance going. So maybe some sort of tape splicing, tape manipulation kind of thing. That would be cool. Maybe a screening, perhaps, of a movie on VHS. That would be cool. Oh, like screen.

That have been yet unrealized. And does this take place in Brooklyn? Takes place in Brooklyn, New York, and the neighborhood of Bushwick. Ever heard of it? I've heard of Bushwick, yeah. I couldn't name three more. Williamsburg? Crown Heights.

New York Knicks. Yeah. Crown Heights, yeah. It's called Crown Heights because the elevation raises slightly, and it's sort of like a crown. Hey, what about that record store? There's that thing on Instagram, Revival of the Fidness. Are you familiar with that? No, Revival of the fittest, please tell me.

There's some New York record store that has just like wild people in it that get interviewed. Or they're just basically not getting interviewed, but they're just talking to the camera. But I bet you there's tapes there. You should look into it because I know I said we're not coming, but I feel like if you had a bigger draw, something to like kind of like get me up there,

I might come for it. Right. Yeah, well, we did have a couple of interesting characters come last year. Maybe we could do a bit of a collaborative. they could bring their cameras down to the tape fair. I know it gets Mike off, so I'll give you some ideas. I don't want to admit it, but he does. Some short-form content.

That could be in the works. And did you say when it is? Oh, not yet. Yeah, it's May 3rd. Sunday, May 3rd. It's less than two months away. We need to fill up this venue with people. We need to sell out.

all the tapes. Sunday, May 3rd, and where can people find if they want to find more information about it? They know tapes are back

now. They know that the record stores, they're dusting off their garbage, they're bringing them, but where are they bringing them to? And where can people

find this information? So you can keep up with information about the tape fair on Instagram at NYC tape fair. We're not going to

clog your feed with videos and pictures, we just posted the flyers and the information. So you don't need to feel worried about adding another following to your follower account because last year we posted twice. Okay, and this year, that's a good rate.

That's a good, that's a steady clip. Yeah. Now, Jamie, you said you wanted to, we couldn't be there, but Jamie wanted to record kind of an introductory announcement for you to play over the loudspeaker at the opening kind of ceremony of it. So Jamie, just go ahead and throw in your reverb a little bit and give a little

just welcome everyone to the New York City Tape Fair and they'll play this at the Tape Fair. All right. Welcome. Everybody, this is the NYC Tape Fair in lovely borough of Brooklyn in the subsection of

I forget. Bushwick. I was thinking Crown Heights. We're in Bushwick here. Say you're Jamie from Tabs Out. Oh, I'm Jamie from Tabs Out. I was unable to get Mike or Joe to come with me, but I came because... No, you're not there.

Oh, not there. You're saying to have a good time. We can do a cutout of you. Yeah, can you guys edit this on the fly, like, why you're playing it? Well, he said he was going to have tape manipulation. Oh, there you go. Yeah, so manipulate this on the tape. This is the first manipulation you can do.

Yeah. Yeah, spicing. We got splicing. We got dicing. We got all kinds of stuff here. We got we got dusted off boxes from people's basements. Ready to go. It's ready to sell out. Say, please buy this. Please buy my experimental music cassette tapes. Say, I got a lot riding on this. I got a lot riding on this. Say, listen, I put a lot of money into this. Listen, listen, buddy, between you and me, I put a lot of money into this. Say, if you guys don't buy tapes, I'm done.

If you don't buy tapes, I'm done. Jimmy the scissors says he's going to cut off my fucking nose. If you guys, just say it. Jimmy the scissors says he's going to cut off my fucking nose if I don't say it. So enjoy. So enjoy the New York City. And big, like, enjoy the tape fair. Enjoy the tape fair.

Everybody. Thank you. Oh, my God. It's incredible. All right, so we'll expect payment whenever you get around to it. So good. Yeah. Probably.

Is there, okay, is there anything else that anyone needs to know about this tape? fair before we let you go. Anything else anyone needs to know about this tape fair? There will be no I can guarantee there will be no Johnny Mathis in the house, no kick by

in excess. You won't be finding those tapes. No best of Glenn Miller orchestra. Only the rarest and the most interesting tapes. Nice. We're doing rare this year. Very cool. Awesome. Well, thank you for calling in.

and good luck. Good luck with the tapes. Thank you guys for having me. I'm sad that through this phone call, I wasn't able to hear any of the drops. I'm forward to listening to this back and seeing what kind of stuff you got to lay down over me. Three healthy meal.

What kind of music get you off? Maybe one of those. Which one you want? Show me the money. Too scary. Okay, we'll see. We'll see what you can do. All right.

All right. Bye. Bye, Ricardo. Thank you. All right. New York City Tate Fair. He said, May 3rd? Is that what he said?

May the 3rd be with you. May the third be with you. That was a old one. Show me the money. That was Dick Dunn. Splo with Living Room on bullshit productions. Bullshit noise productions. Bullshit noise productions.

Excuse me. Ironing and Merrill from the Creek Drift Mosaic Compilational Hooker Vision. And, Jamie, you went actually before that, right? What else is in the mailbag? Is that the mailbag over the? Yeah, those are the, that's the mill bag. Hand me one stack while you're talking. Yeah.

There you are, sir. What were you asking me? I was, I zoned out. Now, I'm trying to think of the order that we did all that right now. Joe B went first. So the first thing you heard was the Keodot. Keodot on that, uh, that weird? Hydrohead record.

666. 666, number of the beast. All right, we're ready to take this thing home. Joby, you asked for the mailbag. Did you run out of tape? Well, I brought another tape, but then we had already played it on episode 2-0-something, 203 or something, Jamie. Got it.

Which I didn't remember. I have a question. I'm just looking at something you played earlier, the Total Irrelevance tape. Yeah. It was self-released, right? Yeah, I believe so. So what is the difference between a self-release thing and a private press? Is it like a self-release of no one cares?

And then as soon as people start to give a shit, all of a sudden, it's a private press? Yeah, it's the same thing. You're absolutely right. So can something that's... be a private press and then people lose interest and it just becomes a self-release thing. That's funny. It gets downgraded. Yeah, I need a, I need kind of like a discogs.

Can you do a discogs plug-in that tells me? I want a, like, a spectrum, right? A graph that shows where an out, I can click on an album that's either self-release in private press and it'll tell me where the market dictates it currently is. It's pretty close to the line. It's almost about to switch over. Just so you know, the total irrelevance tape

after you played on tabs out, it moved eight notches to private press. Joby, do you need some time to sort through that stack? No, I think I was going to play the one tape that you gave me, but I'm just going to, I don't know this label that sent us a whole bunch of stuff. Tetrion tapes?

Tetraon tapes, I feel like it's like a punk label. It's like a punk label. We played stuff off of that label before. Is the logo like an old style like Raygun? Yeah. I love that logo. Yeah, the logo's nice. and this tape is by someone named Spooky Visions and it's got a funny mummy on the cover.

Funny mummy. He only has one leg. Oh. And the tape's called Unraveled. Oh. There's nothing underneath the cloth is what they're the funny mummy. It's just the wrapping.

And they're unwrapping him? Well, they're not... He's unraveling. Oh, let me say. I need to get a better reference by looking. You're a very reference. visual learner. If you're wrapping up a mummy, would you say I'm raveling the

mummy? I'm raveling them up. Yeah. Ravelling them all up. Oh yeah. I think Joe, when we went to that black metal fist, didn't ravel ravelling mummy play or whatever. I also, hold on. Here, grab these hand me the other stack just for fun. You have a real good time holding these, Joe Bates. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Yeah, but I'm just going to play that tape. I don't know what it is. There's a Rocky Erickson cover on it. We probably won't play that, though. I'm looking for my eyes are going crazy sound clip because the O's and spooky are on the spine or little eyeballs, which is pretty funny. Yeah, so you want to do a blind listen? I want to do a blind listen on spooky vision. Okay, on Tetrion tapes, Tetrion number 38. I'm looking for who did the artwork on this, because they should definitely get a mention.

Oh, it says it on the inside, I believe. I like the J-Card, the way it loves. To that, I'll probably never crack the seal on this bad way. How would you describe how it folds? The fold on it is odd. It's odd and unique and satisfying and interesting and provocative and appetizing. It is like a standard J card, except the second panel, it's just it's a mini, micro little. Oh.

It's like those like Japanese like OB-Strip. It's an OB-Strip. Yeah. I think that is a little bonus. It's a little bonus fold. It's a bonus fold. Yeah, it's like a little bonus fold. But there's nothing behind it, which I love to.

Like nothing on the back? Like when you fold it open, like there's nothing like inside like to get any, um, any more con. It's just blank. It's just blank inside. Yeah, yeah. But you don't need. Just like me. I'm blank on the inside.

Like on the inside, but he's got a bonus fold. All right. Spooky. It's a box circumcision. Which is odd that you just had that done what in July, right? just past July, you were like, you know what, guys? I never wanted to get circumcised because it was so damn expensive, but I found a guy who's going to do it for real.

You traded a tattoo for it, right? No, I actually got reverse. That's why I got a bonus fold. Oh. So you had a botched reverse circumcision. Which you know reverse circumcisions is a thing, right? It is? How is that possible?

I want you to look on the internet for a guy who ties weights to it and has it to have. hang down. So I'm imagining that's the right way to do it. That's good for you. Yeah, that's good, yeah. I'm not sure how you did it if it got botched. Well, I went to a shady Italian guy

in little Italy. He didn't wear gloves. I told you don't let Dr. Bernardo do the reverse circumcision. He's going to botch it. No, I got a bonus fold. It's still healing, though. A little sensitive.

do some nice new jersey tomatoes for this one all right what are you going to play jami i'm going to play spooky visions i think i might go last if that's okay with me that's fine with me that's fine with me if mike's okay with it yeah i'm going to play two in the middle two in the middle um and both of these tapes are the reason why they go together the only reason why they pair is because they are the shells are split color shells oh this is what yeah one color on one side one color on I like that they're doing that these days. They're doing a lot of fun stuff with tapes these days.

Look at that. One's white and red and one's white and black. Oh, I like that. And I think they just look fun together. They're like little buddies. This one's stupid though. Why? Because there's nothing on it.

It's just black and white and it's blank. It's just black and white and it's blank and there's no info at all. Yeah, but look at the cover for that one. Oh, all right. It's just... Is there any info on this at all? There's a download code. Who is that?

this. I got it written down. You never lose that download code. You're boned, man. Yeah, you're boned. You're cooked. Stop bringing up reasons why I'm boned, Jamie. That's a standard size toilet. Shane Jones. Shane Jones has a tape.

Is the name of this black and white one. The Noralco case is like, there's no paper, there's no cover. It's just a black piece of plastic for the front and a white piece of plastic for the back. Nothing written on. Nothing written on it. I think Joe's wrong. I think this is really cool. Oh, Jamie likes it.

And I'm trying to figure out how I figured out what it... How did I find out what it was? The download code. The download code. You can't lose it. But the download code doesn't... It only has the code on it. It has the YM code, but no artist? Yeah, it just says ZY2F slash H5. Jamie likes it even more now. Now here's the thing. Maybe this is... will give me something. It came with this little like zine. Oh, okay. And does it say Shane Jones in there? Psychedelic stuff.

It must say it. So somewhere in here, I think this is mostly, they describe it, I think, as poetry. These are poems. And there is the, they make their sounds and they make their poems. And that's what this tape is.

And it's kind of abstract. And for, like, here's one, it says soup, plop. Soup, soup, soup, plop. Soup, soup, plop. Soup, plop, plop. Soup, plop.

Slurp it up And then it goes on My kid would like that Your kid's gonna love this episode Jamie Let's see the zine It's on a label called Sticky and Stinky

And the only thing I have And this zine feels like it got wet at one point It does feel the paper feels like it has been wet The only note I have about this tape I like to have like If I want to say something about it The addition size the artist name or something like that.

I'll put it under a little note thing here. The only note I have for this tape is, because it's on sticky and stinky, is that I have something that says red and stinky. So I don't know anything else about them, and I'm not starting now. Oh, it says it right here.

All poems and music, copyright, Shane Jones. Okay, so that's how I figured this out. But you... See, Joby, let me try to win you over on this one. Okay. You love when an artist is hard to Google. Yeah, I do like that. Hard to look up, hard to figure.

it out. Yeah. Hard. Hard. You look at it when it's hard to do that. Yeah. Now this with no indications on it, nothing to tell you what it is. You don't like that? This mystery? Like you had to root through that zine. I don't know. I'm on the fence. You're on the fence? I don't know. I'm a fence sitter. Yeah, okay. That's good. There's got to be a pun for that. Fence sitter. So Shane Jones, Shane Jones has a tape on sticky and stinky. That's the black and white tape. The other tape is red and white. Now, Joe, how do you feel about this?

Yeah, on the white side of the tape, there's red printing, but the red side is blank. That's fine. Should it not have white printing? I mean, ideally, in an ideal world, but maybe the white doesn't show up good on... Well, what about this? What if they had... And this goes for any tape. There's a tape.

It has professional imprinting on one side. And then for some... And then for some reason, the Band-Aid thing on the other. side. Like they have the leftover label sticky, but they didn't use the actual label itself. They only use the bandaid. I just don't like, I'm not a fan of the Band-Aid. Yeah, but it doesn't that kind of stuff catch you off guard? It's kind of out there. Avant-Card, like K-O-Dot, coyote. This tape is Mark Lloyd and Woods Law Group. Other things that can be alphabetical on traced objects.

This is Angel Mark Lloyd and Peter J. Woods. a do of theirs that a powerhouse that apparently did you put out a tape in 2024 on orb that one slipped by me slip by me too

but this one came on trace objects I guess orb decided not to send it traced objects did so it's canon that this is their debut then to me there you go beautiful artwork if you know traced objects

you know the style that they do with the different shapes and oddities and on the front and it doesn't go well with the red and white case the red and white shell

kind of like a pink and yellow situation going on. Yeah but I'm not going to complain. Joe B's already given these tape, my tapes enough shit. I can't. I think you're just grumpy because of your extra fold.

All right, so I'm going to play those two. And Jamie, you have to close it out. You're closing out. You wanted to close it out for some reason. Well, I just feel like from a vibe,

from a vibe perspective, this gives you a good vibe. All right. But only from a vibe perspective. So I gave you, I gave you earlier on, I gave you a table, then I gave you a living room to put the table in. Now I'm going to make you feel it easy. What is this?

A lazy boy? A lazy boy. And Mike, you mentioned Angel Mark Lloyd earlier. This is a label. Just now I did. Angel Mark Lloyd has been on. So there you go, a little callback. Oh my God.

This is gorgeous. What is this? So this is a label from France called Underwater Computing underscore. Oh, my. a little underscore symbol after it. Joe B. Let me see. I got to get my.

I am taking a black governor. Look at you. I'm getting the vapors. So this is a bit of a vapor wave label, but I don't consider this music to be vapor wave on this. I just consider this to be like bedroom electronic music.

Jamie. Yeah. Nubless. It's a nubless. It's got to be nubless. It has to be. Because look at that full, complete foldover cover inside.

Glossy cover. Wait till you see the tape. Oh, my room, mama me. My head was in the toilet water. Look at the goddamn edge of the tape, Joe. Look at the side. Rotate it. This side?

No, keep going. Yeah, keep going. Oh, the little sticker on the side? Yeah. Oh, there's a sticker on the side of the tape? Yeah. That's so uncommon. It's so uncommon.

That's so uncommon. You don't see that very much. I don't think I've ever seen it. You see Nubless Norelko cases all the time. And this isn't unlike the, like, hand solo stuff. and I know I didn't play that tape, which is like the all over printing on the thing.

This isn't that. But this is a sticker, but it's even on this part, like, and it's perfect. The bump out part on the bottom of the cassette tape. Do you think it's die cut, Joe? Is it printed on there?

It's not, is it a sticker. It's a sticker. This is so uncommon to see. I'm not peeling it off, Jamie. No, it's a sticker. This is beautiful. Yeah, this is high art. How do they do this?

Museum grade. Not to mention that the cover itself is the gorgeous graphic design. Yeah. And I like buying some of these vapor wave things. I just said it wasn't vapor wave, but these labels, I just feel like sometimes five, ten years from now, this might fetch a pretty penny. You're always investing. I'm always investing. A little sticker that came with, a little square sticker.

Make sure that didn't fall out. All right. No, this isn't, where did the tape go? Because I want to see, oh my God, look at it. The tape in Just and Norucco with no cover is like perfect. It looks cool. Looks cool. Oh, shout out. Zeranka. Zeranka. C27.

Yeah, so they cut the sticker. Barrett classic stereo. Hold on, Jobe. I'm going to go one step further with you. Oh, my God. I found so. Oh, my God. Look at the corner of the both sides.

In the corner, there's a little triangle cut out of the sticker. Now, turn around to the other side. there's two on the B-B-Cy. Holy-Trivals. Holy-shit. This is so uncommon to see. Yeah, how do they do that? They had to have a machine. This was not, yeah, this was done by machine.

I don't think, even if you could do it by hand, I don't think a human would put up with that. No. Jamie. I've never seen that before. Yeah. This is beautiful. Thank you so much for bringing this to my home.

That's why I did it last. Yeah, you were right. Wow, and then they had to even, yeah, this was done by a machine because of all the, the circles cut out of the sticker on the bottom. Yeah. And I like, you know,

I like how it's bedazzled in stickers, but I also like how that shell is a nice foggy, milky shell. Milky white, yeah. Mm-hmm. It's a smoky one. Smoky. Smoky.

Smoky. I don't know if it's smoky, because smoky would be more gray. I would call that foggy. Okay. Milky? Milky, I mean, milky. Yeah.

Yeah. Room for cream. Yes, sir. Oh, my God. I could go on and on about this forever, but do we, Wow, wow, wow. Do we want to play it?

Oh, you drop the sticker. I'll pick up later. Not later because you're going to fuck up Jamie's resale. Yeah, you got this like shag carpeting in here. We're never going to find that. It's a short shag, Jamie. You'll find it. Don't worry about it.

All you're concerned about is selling this tape in 10 years. It's on your lap. Get your fingerprints off of it. It is glossy. It's very glossy. Remind me what it is. I forgot it already. It's vapor wave of Jason.

So this is artist's Zeranka. It's on underwater computing from France. and I don't consider this to be vapor wave music I consider it to be lo-fi bedroom electronic music Nice What a way to end it's got a chill vibe What a way to end it There you go

All right Last three tapes Thanks to Ricardo from the New York City Tape Fair May 3rd Brooklyn New York Ever fucking hear about it Go there get a sandwich In the middle of the night

Shout out to Save Farrick for those zines And then just the I'll give the warning to Das Boots that you have 24 hours to send me some of those tapes. All the tapes. Or all. You want a flipper. Or let's just say all will be revealed.

Let's just say all will be revealed. And you know what I mean, wink, wink. All right. Bye. Bye. See you.