Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #217 | 5.31.26

Episode Date: May 31, 2026

Dial Alaska, Graham Dunning, Forest Counties, Mortiis, Imaginary Softwoods, Adobe Homes, RBA, Cirith Ungol, Derek White, Fool, and Corvid One Cassette

I lost my shirt. Terrible. That's terrible. Fucking horseshit. Tabs out, cassette podcast, episode, Jamie, please. I paid $3.80 for all these tapes, and they sold for $22 plus shipping.

How much did they sell for? Plapes. And they sold for $22. Shipping. Jamie, go ahead. Tabs out. Cassette, podcast, episode $217. 217.

27. Wrong one. Not we're on the 200th. I'm Mike. I'm Joe. I'm Jamie. And we sold these tapes for $22 plus... Anything new in tape news? What's up with that ferric oxide?

The straighter from moves has closed the ferric oxide shipments. Jamie, give me like a... Give me like a newsreel thing. Terror. Give me a... Give me some reverb I've been asking for I feel like I've been asking for Terror at the Strait of Remoze

As the Faric oxide shipment has exploded Thousands like a Zika-A-Pa-Sor in the Strait of Ramoze I'm like that guy from Police Academy They can just do the sounds with his mouth Oh, I love that guy What's his name? Winston in the movie?

But what's his real name? Michael Winslow Michael Winslow I feel like yes The sweeps? The sweeps and the creeps Spaceballs That's interesting

I am Now I get it I believe there was They've done that with other characters A few years ago I believe there was Talk of a ferric oxide shortage Yeah

Whatever happened What are we using now? I'm not sure Because then what else could you Well what do you like chromium? Chromium dioxide That's the second one on your tape deck And then the best one is metal

Metal But I don't own any metal I like a little I get a little bit of Parmesan. I don't own any metal tapes. Yeah. Finally great a Parmesan. Is it really thin metal?

I don't know. It doesn't play on all tape players. It does play on my Nakamichi. Enough about the fucking Nakamichi, Jamie. Jesus Christ. What did Mr. Bungle use? Sense for all these tapes. And they sold for $22 plus shipping.

No one cares about the Nakamichi. And like I was saying, I don't use the dioxide or the chromium metals. I'm a pizan. I use a little bit of shave parmesan. I use fresh red pepper. I use Basil Fresh

So Tabs out episode The number Jamie said And we're recording on a weird time I'm kind of like out of sort Mid week Yeah

Like the exact center You gotta be flexible It's not even It's not even nighttime The sun is out Jamie does like to keep us On our toes He just texts me

He's like You don't have to have a beer But Too early to order pizza I had that t-shirt I was actually wearing That's so funny that you say that Yesterday I was wearing

You know that cute tank top I have That says it's What's it say? It says It's early enough to have It's late enough to have a beer But too early to order pizza You know what's crazy

It's like we're in the episode 217 already We don't even have a mission statement We don't have a mission statement And they're still working on And they sold for $22 Plus I have a note on my phone

You want to knock out The mission statement right now yeah go ahead oh james does yeah what we got jami go ahead um we never give up we're flexible um come on uh come prepared come prepared i don't know if that's true you already had to turn the mixer on and off again uh be nice be well i don't know if that's true i have these same conversations with my friends i feel like we need to i don't do mission statements okay I don't stick to things I don't yeah

No thank you I want to be able to cut I run from this Yeah yeah I want to be able to change I'm like I'm like water man Put me in a different vessel I become that vessel

He's soaking wet Joe B has become soaking wet Jamie So Jamie Why don't you play the first tape What do you got So I got a tape At the end of last episode

Everybody remembers the end of last episode I played dance hall Neil For the second time And it was Shit it was only to yeah shit it was only to complete a theme i decided this time i'm not doing a theme i'm just gonna play you're not doing a theme oh no theme that's his theme this my theme is it's all music from the mailbag but it's not that's not a very good theme but it's something i bet you can i bet you can like reverse

engineer a theme out of this do you want to try to make that have chat gbt read a code should we um should that be our goal for this episode i know jami you like mission statements and stuff like that you won't shut the fuck over yeah do you want to make i call a missionary statements be nice oh be nice be flexible too rough be good be rough all right don't be rough

don't be rough be prepared let's well go ahead and you know we can we have the opportunity to do something we've never done before oh we do do we want to

I think every day you have the opportunity to do something you've never done before that's not true that can't be true yeah you're not a doctor that's my mission statement since we're it's crazy

it's crazy, it's the middle of the week. Do we want to do a thing where Jamie plays all of his tapes in the first block? Hump day. Hump day. Is it Hump Day? That's Thursday. Blowing my load on hump day. Jamie. No, I don't want James to blow his load.

Please. I like a good pacing. No, no, I'm into it. No, James is into it. I'm into it. Because then I can kind of, I can leave early. You can leave early? No, you got to stay. Jamie's on his computer like, like playing first. Chat GBT, how do I not bust? Jamie please

Oh come on Jamie All right No let Should we do it or is that scary Jamie likes it You like it Let's do it Okay

Yeah what do you got Jamie And then me and you We'll go back and forth I got three tapes in the mailbag here And I even have an order for them picked out The first one is by An artist or group

Called Dial Alaska Dial Alaska I'm gonna pass it around the room So so far like I'm kind of thinking I'm saying the color blue It's cyan I would say that Oh cyan

It's on a label called Earth Libraries from Birmingham, Alabama. It's all very cyan. It won't stop. And it keeps folding out. This text is a little, I'm not going to try to read it. It's so small. So so far with the theme, there's a few avenues we can go on here. Alaska likes one of the states.

It's cold. Dial is a telephone. Dial is a soap. Soap. Oh. Joy. Alaska is like a type of dessert, right? Baked Alaska. This came in the mail bag?

Yeah. this game in the mailbox. It's got a barcode because it has a barcode on the back. Yeah, sometimes they have barcodes. Yeah, I think like people... To me, that means they've never listened to the podcast.

Well, I would say, yeah, they would be in a fine community of people if they've never listened to the podcast. People who just send us... They'll listen to the part... I think this is one person. John Albia. Let's give John Albia.

Oh, master by Sean McCannes. All right, maybe we are in the weirdo realm. Do you want to know something cool? I do. If you type into Google, cassette podcast, We are the first result. Of course we are.

So that might be how people... Mike's testing me. He's testing me. Oh, no. No, I took Google off my computer. I don't even spy on me. Well, there's lyrics, Jamie. Yeah, this is kind of a weird one.

It's electronic-y. It's kind of chill. But the, you'll hear it soon. The vocals are... When you play it? Different. They're kind of a little bit... They're not...

It's not like a robot, but it's... It's robotic in a way. Okay. I can't describe it. It's ineffable. Ineffable. Like your mom. And we have a new king of slams, ladies and gentlemen.

We have a new king of slams. Wow, that's a good one. Earth Libraries, EL 645. There hasn't been this many releases on this label. I'm not quite sure they're numbering scheme. But he's already thinking, he doesn't know what it is, but he knows it's a scheme of some sort. It's a scheme. His label's trying to get one over on us.

It's false advertising. Yeah. I would like to see a label's aesthetic B. So you have this tape here. The tape is blue. It's cyan. The J-card is very cyan, the whole thing. It's just a white imagery and text on it.

Can we do a yellow one next? Then an all pink one. Can we do an all green one? We get away from the process colors. We start expanding. Oh, expanding. Different pantone. We do an all, hold on, brown one,

because we're not afraid to do something a little spooky. And then the Zorn Pout. Oh, I would love a Zorn palette. This label does a lot of unearthing esoteric sounds and hidden gems, curating avant-garde and nostalgic music across decades. Give me some reverb, Jamie. They're down in their dungeon, like, with a shovel. What did I find?

God, look what I've unearthed. I've unearthed some of the most... Why did you take my reverb away, right in the middle? You're done. I don't want to do it anymore. Do I still... Oh, you put it on everything? No, I just did my show.

Yeah, they find some avant-court. our gems. Oh, all right. Oh, they unearth them. They unearth them. Yeah, that's what... That was Mike's bit. That was my bit. You got jealous up and turned my reverend. You didn't like it. That's fine. It doesn't always land, Mike. Okay, so dial-ascajoy. Now, Jamie, what's your second tape? And then me and Joe will start connecting the dots. Connect the dots, like weaving the fabrics. It's really, really hard to do this. I love puzzles. All right. Okay. It's like an awesome. DaVinci code. I love DaVinci code. My second tape is by an artist. We've never played this artist on the show before, but I have a tape by this artist I think I got from you,

Joe. Graham Dunning. We've never played a Graham Dunning? That name's not familiar to me. I searched on it and we have not played that person. We simply must have played something Grand Dunning is in, a project of Graham Dunning is a part of. But this is like a techno type artist. Not techno, it's like experimental still. This is on Jolly's. So we played Jolly's definitely a bunch of times. Oh, for sure. Graham Dunning is a London based artist. London. Jolly old Hello Sucker

This tape's called Quorn What's your guy's favorite Corn song? I like Bohemian Rhapsody Okay Speaking of London Right

It's awful music Bring the action All right So far Let's try to connect these now London Alaska Yeah, no, London, Kathy.

There's nothing about this tape other than They're from London. From London. That doesn't count, though. Orange. Oh, wait, wait. Is there a Birmingham, England? Oh, there is.

Because there's Birmingham, Alabama. There is a Birmingham. It's a own special accent, James. It's not quite a got-me accent. It's not quite a car. And it's not like a proper posh accent. It's quite a little. Can you pass me my cocaine?

that's what it's kind of like oh it's very I didn't realize can you pass me my cocaine excuse me can you pass me my cocaine excuse me you're sitting on my cocaine I don't think we have a I don't think we land on a theme yet well we have to see the third

sometimes you see the third piece of the puzzle and then you're like what now I get it yeah what labels this on Jamie Jolly's Jolly's Jolly's Jollies you said that where's Jolly's from I think they're from Brooklyn Oh bro Brooklyn Hey I can do that one too

We can be here all All night. Oh, Jesus Christ. Graham Dunning's forthcoming album on Jolly's records documents the latest evolution of his mechanical technosystem a hand-built network

network of modified turntables. Hey, we got time. Physical mechanisms and chance... Jamie, slow down. And chance processes that has formed the focus of practice research-based PhD project over the past three years.

Oh, this is intellectual. This is intellectual. Yeah. Oh, I realize. Every track on the record is composed and performed entirely through the system capturing dance music

shaped by friction, instability, and human intervention. Okay. Oh. Reminds me a little bit of our friend William Fields. Yeah.

Sets up a little system. Yeah. Boo, boo, boom. Yeah. Okay. I still not seen a theme, but I'm excited to hear this. Sometimes, you know,

it's not until the third movie that you're like, what? That guy was in the first one. The bad, they did that with the other creatures. They did that with the other characters, too. Now I get it.

Now I get interesting. Interesting. Now I'm interested. Okay, you're right. This is not Yoda. I've been hearing baby Yoda that apparently this is not Yoda. It's interesting. It's interesting.

So maybe this. I don't think we've ever played anything from Earth Libraries, have we? That's the first label. Oh, so never played anything from Earth Library. Here's some clues. Okay. Never played anything from Earth Libraries. Never played anything from Graham Dunning.

third tape Survey says I think this is a twofer This third tape is by an artist Or a collective of some kind called Forest Counties I'll pass this one on a on a label called Mitchie tapes

Mitchie Mitchie Little Mitchie Wow I love the design for this Do you guys remember that There's that label No Kings That used to be around Lee Noble ran the label No Kings

That's right There's a current label I don't want to fuck this up because they're so good I like this label a lot What are they called? I can't think of it on my Tommy Woods What are they called? They just did an M-Sage tape not that long ago

Well anyway, the design work for this is reminding me of that Oh, hand me those two other tapes I just want to check the nubs There's no pattern with the nubs, unfortunately There's no theme No, I'm not looking for a pattern There's no theme I'm looking for unique nubs, Jamie

So this is kind of you're doing debuts We've never played this label before We never played some of these artists before. Debutz. Speaking of Jamie's search history, debilts. So you're doing all debuts. And now you can leave. Now you can get out of here.

I can leave, or I can focus more on research and samples. Development. Yeah, development. Oh, I do like the cover of this. It's kind of like, I don't know, a 60 hippie type thing. Yeah, this is kind of a little bit Americana. It's kind of guitars and drums and... It's like someone who worked in the...

Jamie, just wait, please. It's like someone who worked in the advertising industry in like the 70s designed it. Yeah, I could see that. In their off hours when they just wanted to do something special for themselves. Yeah. And what a good job that they did. Yeah, Project out of Pittsburgh, Southside. Do we know who did the artwork? Who's Ryan Emmett?

Ryan Emmett is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They took the cover photo. Hunted creatures? Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. He did some stuff on NNA. Yeah, that's what I thought. thoughts. Ryan Emmett took the cover photo. Okay. Cool. Took what photo? There's a photo on the bottom.

The front photo is bottom third of the J-Cart. Dude, it's still on the fucking cover. It's still the cover photo. I was so... You were so entranced by the design? The designing part. I like the designing part. I see, to me, that's part of the design. Well, I didn't go to art school. Oh, see, I have an associate's degree in fine art. Yeah, where did they catch you? Huh?

Oh, 18 out of 18, Jamie. Maybe there's a code in there. Did you look at the code? To see... All three tapes are 18 out of 18. That would be amazing. That would be interesting. If I was smarter, I could calculate the odds. All right, so we're going to play the Jamie Block. Jamie Rock Block.

The Jamie Rock Block. Get the James out. Get the James out. Get the James out with an all new special triple dose. Triple fucking dose of Jamie Orlando. No themes required. Are you ready for the sickest shit you've ever heard? And some plain nubs.

Dyer, Alaska, Graham Dunning, and then... You said dire Alaska. Well, Dial Alaska, I'll cut it out. Graham Dunning, and then... What is it on Mitchie tapes? Forest. Counties. Counties.

Alaska Joy on Earth Libraries. Graham Dunning. Quirn on Jollies. Jollies is a hell of a label. And I've mentioned this before how much I like their logo. Forest Counties. Blue Pine Volume 4 on Mitchie tapes. Nice little block there from Jamie Orlando. Thank you, thank you.

Hell of a job tonight, Jamie. Oof the chain. I'm going to listen to that for 20 more minutes. Don't have time. I love your creative. mixing. Yeah, that, I feel like that could, you could just release that on a tape. Maybe I will. Maybe somebody out there will. Experimental. When is someone going to sample us?

Oh, yeah. Jamie, give them a little, everybody give them a little sound to use. What? That's a good one. Nakamichi. I knew he's going to do it. I'm going to say, not the mama. Not the mama's a good. How about Jordan for three? So just use any of those.

Don't leave now. All right. um juby you have four tapes i have four tapes that we set aside here yeah so it's just me and you just like the old days baby just like the old days once again back into the breach jamie go ahead

unplug that microphone mute your channel and then unplug the microphone can you still hear me please leave the room jami please leave the room put three more quarters feed the the beringer mixer and then leave the room please Joe B.

Okay, here we go. All right. All right, let's do that. I'm so excited. All right. The first tape I'm going to play is a new one I just bought. Oh, wow. Oh my God.

Studio bit. Hold this. Jamie, did you do this out of spite? Did you knock his... Did you loosen my mic stand? Oh, now I hit the headphone jack. Oh, my God. It's all falling apart.

Jamie, come back in. Jamie, you can come back. Oh, hoo. All right. The listeners can't hear this. How's that with the headphones? Are they all right? It's fine.

Don't worry about. They're not right. They're not right. That's the thing. I've got to wiggle it out just a little bit. I've taken all the calculus courses from integral calculus to differential calculus. Can I bring my other headphones?

You can do anything you want, man. I thought you're like, we don't need it. We have this one. We do have this one. We don't need another one. It's so janky. All right, Jamie, sit back down. That's very perceptive.

We're sorry. Sit back down. Tape I just bought it. Come on Jamie. Where'd you buy it? Out of season. Back on the out of season. So this is a mortise tape.

Oh. Because out of season is... Big nose. I have conversations with my kids about Mortice all the time say, go to bed or Mortise will get you. Out of Season has been reissuing stuff and putting out stuff that hasn't been released. This is a bootleg.

So this is called the Awaken, forgotten songs from The Smell of Rain. So I think these are demo tracks that were then eventually made it onto the album, The Smell of Rain. I'll read you a little blurb that Mortise wrote about this. Okay. Jamie Scary music.

Give me a little reverb. Obviously. But a different one that Mike was using earlier. Can you cycle through just a different one? I want a little different color. And can you trim the tail of the beast?

These songs were created shortly after I had completed the music for The Stargate. In late 1997, early 98. It started to become disillusioned with the music and sound of what later became known as Era 1. And I made the decision to explore other directions of music. In order to not self-destruct as an artist, I like my accent. These songs would eventually lead me on the path of songs that became the smell of rain.

Later on, in that sense, these demos in this record are rough and raw as they are, could be said to be the missing link between era one and everything that came after. Mortis. So we'll play a track from the B-side. Drug of the Universe demo. Oh, I love doing the drug of the universe. You think people ever go over to Mortise's house and he doesn't have the nose and stuff on and he gets worried so he grabs.

Don't look at me. I'm hideous. He grabs the cake, shuns the cake in his face. Hello! You can turn my riverball. He just has a walk-in closet full of noses. Oh, lots of notes.

Turn my river off. Sorry, Joe. Sorry, you're still in the cave. If you want to be in the cave, it's wet and cold. I'm Mortise. And welcome to Mortise's nose closet. I'd watch that.

On his cribs. This is my nose closet. Smash that like button for more content. That's cool. Out of Season is doing all these reissues. That's scary and cool. It's scary and cool.

I like it. Where is it again? Where'd you put it? I put it right here. What's that? What's that? An oil painting on the car? of, I don't know.

Of Mortise? That might just be a photograph. You think photographs just come out like that? Digally enhanced. Oh, okay, yeah. Excellent layout. This is a beautiful. Who were these?

Are those the two girls from? From the shining? From the shitting? I think of they are. Is it really? He's that old. He's that old. I mean, this came out 97.

You're starting to creep me out. I don't know. I don't know. I never, I don't think I've ever really. If you ask me if I listen to Mertisa, I would have to say, no. I don't think I've ever given them the old college shot. Well, not

to be adequate. It gets really bad eventually. Oh, yeah? After era one. You want to get in early? Yeah, you want to be in era one. I feel like they never know where to put his music in the record store because like, I feel like growing up I would always see his records in the metal section. And like, I know today is like, not metal. And now you see him in the

used bin. It's a used bin. No, it should be in, I guess, electronic or goth, if they're that, into that. But he's like the, he's like the The Godfather of Dungeons sense. That's Era 1, Jamie. That's Arrow 1, okay. This is a bridge between Arrow 1 and the current stuff. So don't expect Arrow 1 stuff, but you'll hear,

you'll hear a little, some twinkles of Arrow 1. Hmm. Okay. What error are we in now? Current. There's no, I think it's just Arrow 1 and current. No, I mean like now in 2026. Current.

This is not numbered? No, no, there's only Era 1 and then everything else. Okay. I'm going to ask a question, and don't get mad at me. if it's stupid. Did he go through a scoff phase? No. No, okay. Well, let me know when he does. The fourth wave of mortise. I'll get very excited about that.

Pick it up indeed. So I'm going to play a track from that. Okay. Now, do you want to do another one or do you want to go back and forth? Oh, we'll do a little back and forth. We'll volley it like the Timothy Shalomeh movie. How about? All right, I got a tape here. I believe it's a compilation. Oh, no, save that one because I have a comp. Okay.

Very good. So you're playing Mortise and what's the name of it? Yay, I did it. It is, what is it called again? The Awakened, Forgotten Songs from the Smell of Rain. Do I have anything? I don't know, I'll just play this. Imaginary Softwoods, Nucassette.

Yeah, right? John Elliott, as we all remember from Emeralds, Cleveland Head. It's on mineral disc, which I believe is like, I think that is John Elliott's outlet for his solo stuff, I'm pretty sure. I didn't realize managing his software. It's still going. Still going, yeah. I saw, there was some

digital platform that launched. Does other dude still roller skating? Is other dude still roller skating? Are we talking about Laverne and Shirley? What are we talking about? No, the other dude from Emerald. Was he? Oh, yeah, I remember seeing Instagram videos of Markville. He was good. He was good. He was good.

do the thing when the legs would cross back and forth? I couldn't do that. I'm pretty sure, because Wagon was a label that John Elliott, I think it did, but maybe that was more of a collective thing. Well, he was definitely involved. But anyway, I was saying that some digital platform launched. I forget what it was called,

and I forget how it worked. But it was so confusing to me. It was like a streamlined token-based digital output system and you bought music I didn't know I did I just iTunes Wow that's so interesting

Sorry That's so loud Wow that's so interesting But you ever know when a new thing comes out And you just don't have the energy to learn how to use it And just let me get a tape So imagine I saw what's had a bunch of stuff on that platform Okay

But to my likings I also We were on like Neil Young's not MP3 player thing? Yeah, the triangle thing it was some kind of thing where you had to go

buy a hit clip remember hit clips you don't remember hit clips? You would get them at 7-11 or something and it would be like one song

on a little key chain I don't remember that at all You don't remember hit clips? No, I remember the 7-ish they gave you McDonald's The Flexi The Flexi, yeah The Big Mac song

To All Be No, it wasn't too all Vee It was all their menu, right? I thought it was the Big Mac Mac Mac Mac, B, LTE, a quarter pounder with some cheese, a lea, a fish, a hamburger, a cheeseburger, happy meal, something like that, right? Yeah, something like that. And then it stopped. And mine kept going and I won a million dollars.

You want a million dollars? Damn. But I do not understand. I believe the McDonald's Flexi RRRR put that out, right? Yeah. Oh, that would be awesome. So this is stuff that was recorded between 2021 and 2026 in Cleveland, Ohio, and elsewhere. That is how it's written on the bank.

campsite. He has such reverence for Cleveland. Now, this was recorded all over the place, but he says it was recorded in Cleveland and other places, too. Professionally duplicated at A&Z audio, which is also in Cleveland. Again, the reverence. Again. And it says

on the band camp, and I like this, it points out no shrink wrap, which is like, I guess that was probably something he, like a command to A&Z audio, but he's also letting us know, no shrink wrap. But the rest thick plastic. Lots of all. The rest of this is all

he asked. I think he asked for the most toxic plastic. He wanted it mined in the most like... I want to take the shrink wrap plastic that amount and make the Norel coat that much thicker. Yeah, he wanted to kind of like... Because I want that to exist even longer. What is it called when they just like cut off the top of a mountain to get the resources? Scalloping. He wanted them to scallop a mountain to get the resources.

No, I like that because I hate shrink wrap on tapes. It's stupid. Yeah, it's just a little... I mean, this I'll keep the rest of this plastic. We're all doing our part. Yeah, this plastic I'll keep for a while before I throw it away. To as little as you can. Addition of 100. No way, do the most you can. Two different

colors. Two different colors. Well, I mean, there's two different variants, Joe B. Oh, variance. So like, this one here's a green shell with the typewriter on the shell sticker. Classic look. I don't see a typewriter? You guys ever get a tape that's shrink wrapped and there's a Band Camp download code inside. It's like how do they get that download code inside? Is National Audio putting the download code in there?

Yeah. Are they going to a third party shrink wrapper after they get the tape from National Audio? Oh, National Audio Company doesn't do download codes? No, they do shrink wrap. Maybe they do download codes. Maybe I missed that option. Why would they not just do the download code? I don't know.

You would think that they would not, hold on. So you were wondering how it got in there. You were like how to get in there. How they get in there? We got a little collage. I refuse to believe NAC printed this out. Can you buy your own shrink wrap kit and take a heat gun and shrink up? Oh, you definitely can buy your own kit.

That's awesome. Look at all that lobster meat. All right, Joby. So, yeah, the classic John Elliott, imaginary softwood, Center for Tactical Magic is the name of the team. It looks beautiful. Classic collage look. Joby just threw it on the floor.

I don't know. Well, it's a thicker. Everything's flea. Everything's fleeting. Yeah. I was on an airline. the other day in the bathroom looked just like this actually

Sorry, Joe B, what do you got now? Oh, we're not doing a Oh, what do we each have one more left? Okay, we'll play these. I have four, you have four. We just played two, and then we're going to play those and then come back.

We'll both play two, and then we'll do one more block, or we'll do four more blocks. Or we can... That's so many. No, no, I thought that's what we're doing. We each are playing two, play those.

Then come back and talk about. So experimental. And then play our last two. But actually, I would have... So, yeah, Jobe, here's gonna... We each have four tapes. Okay, hold on. The math is messing me up.

Three... I think I should play one... You play a tape. Just play tape, buddy. Oh, now I'll play the comp. Play tape guy. Yeah, play the... Go, yeah.

Play the tape guy. I will play a track from this funeral moon records comp. We have fun. Funeral Moon Records. Sampler Mix tape Volume 1. Oh, so you got a theme going, because your last tape was also a volume tape, wasn't it? Or Jamie's was. Faris County was a lot of tape.

Was it what tape? So this is a little... Volume 4. Sampler mixtape, I guess, of stuff that's going to come out on this label Funeral Moon. And they sent us two tapes. Serpent Column was the other tape, which is unlistenable. Is this Dungeons Synth or Black Metal? This is neither.

Funeral Moon. Is it Funeral Dune? So the label does have some dungeons and stuff, does have some black metal, but the first track on the A side, which you're going to need to rewind, is a screamo type band. Oh, Screamo! Yeah. Or as the kids call it now, scrams. I think the people call them that now I've grown up to adults.

I don't think anybody's calling it anything anymore. No, they call it Scrams. They called Scrams? I thought they called it Scrams 10, 15 years ago. Yeah, but then... Newer kids don't call it scrams. I've had many lengthy discussions with people about this. The discussions were lengthy.

Were they thick? The people were lengthy. Discussions were short. What do you want to do? I walked it on you talking to some long people. So, yeah. So we're relying this to the first track? Ritual dagger.

Ritual dagger. And I did listen to the whole tape, but I did think it is interesting that the first band is like a screamo type band. And what are they called? Ritual Dagger. Ritual Dagger. Ritual Dagger. Ritual Dagger. Intro and track

3 demo from unreleased So rewind that Well I gotta re-no the mortise tape is Cued up Well hey me this I'll rewind it what I'm talking Rewind this side Yeah

Think of the thrill Should I put my mic right on this Why it's rewinding Jamie do some creative mixing Yeah that's what I'm working on something Well don't know which one rewinds I'm working on something Is it a picture of a table

You need to buy a Your tape player there. You head over to Bank Camp and listen to our bonus episode about how to get ready for the noise gig and how to bias your stuff and all that. I just realize I have an insane theme with my tapes.

I'm looking at my list of what I have left to play. So I'm going to play a comp, and the comp is, it says Project Zathra. I think Zathra is the name of the label. It's called Project Zathra 1. The next tape I'm going to play is called Corvid 1, and the tape's called 2. and the last thing I'm going to play the tape is called three.

Oh, Angel numbers. And I just saw, I feel so blessed. I can't believe it. I'm just nervous of this. Are you kidding me? And then my grandfather loved Cardinals. You went to that baseball game after all, huh? How did they do, extra endings?

They let you throw up the first pitch. I saw an apostle. You saw an apostle? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, with your mom leaned over? Tell Jamie. There's no comeback for that, Mike. Tell Jamie the bit you did at the St. Francis place

when he delivered the pictures of the priest. Oh, I'll tell them while we play this. All right, all right. Okay, so you're going to play the screamo band, Ritual Dagger, and the Mortise. And the Mortise. And then I'm going to play off, as I just mentioned moments ago, Project Zathra's Zero One.

Yeah. A compilation on Zathra, which is a Polish label. It's a very conceptual, very, Joby, you want to put on some reading glasses. Very smart project. Let me put my tie on. And the comp consists of... Let me read a book, too.

Yeah, take out a... Dostisky. An old weathered copy. You keep it in your back pocket. This tape consists of a spoken narrative or voice memos, voice notebooks, they call them, recounting the history of a scientific project

conducted in 1977 in Polaro, and I don't know if it's real or made up for this. And that narrative is interwoven. Jamie, I don't know if you remember, but I like science. Joby loves the stuff. Yeah, but you have your own version of it. Well, yeah.

This is a game of semantics. Have you come up with any new spells, by the way? No, no. Okay. And they're called incantations. Do you use crystals for healing? Well, Jamie, you have to charge that you have to bias them correctly. You have to bias the crystals.

Yeah, you never biased the crystals, you're not using crystals, right. It's a good name for a cassette, like an album, bias the crystals. Or just biased crystals. Keeps sounding like you guys say, or bias. No, Jamie, biased. No, no, we're not saying that, Jamie. The narrative anyway is... One, one, two, three.

It's interwoven with experimental, dark, ambient songs that are meant to expand the narrative through their textures and their tempo, their vibes. Color. Their color. And Zathra, like I said, it appears to be a collective of Polish artists. And the track I'm going to play is by a project called RBA, three letters. RBA.

1-1-2-3, RBA. R if you divide, R is the 17th letter in the alphabet. Let him cook, go ahead. No, no, you got it because you were saying this earlier. It's a turn. What kind of music gets you off? I've talked to doctors. I've had them look at 100, 100 different tapes of his.

All right, so I'm going to play that. So we're going to do the mortise. We're going to do the imaginary softwoods and then those two comps. Praise God. Thank you God. Torsion. Realization, version DNA. There's their many, functioning each each.

But it's time. Like, if God was zapentlone, It's always and the in the same time in the same time. Pruly model

have the avarium systems. One of computer self-chimny pre-cherns to runchews to work.

Like, he's trying to do something, which I don't even algorithm.

I'm Kowalczuka is, is his initiative? Spoyerer on me, like,

he'd he'd he'd and he said too, I guess if you call that shit music. Hey, we're back.

And we're back. I had a little bungle, a little bit. Terrible. It was actually the second track on that funeral moon. Oh, yeah, we're not too big to admit our mistakes. Adobe Home. Adobe Holmes. It was not a ritual dagger.

It was Adobe Holmes. You said Adobe like a Delco boy. Adobe. Adobe. Dobie Holmes. Wawa. It was the Dobby Holmes, hon. A little funny, a little funny connection to that band, Adobe Holmes.

A bit of a screamo band. Bit of a Scrams band. Put out some stuff on a label called Friendly Otter. Okay. Friendly otters, I'm scrolling through their discogs here. Put out a Bob Bucco Jr. kiss that. Oh, okay. A little crossover.

So a little crossover going on here. all of these labels have thousands of releases. They love it. I see one of them, and another little connection, one of them, one of these labels put out a usurp synapse record. Wow. I put out a usurp synapse record. Quit bragging.

So a little connection there between, well, I'm part of the story too. I love just getting, I love being in the mix. I love being part of the story. Oh, and then I do that. I put out absurd snacks To save two I like that What is that?

Did you just make that up? Oh yeah, yeah I like absurd snacks All right, Joe B Yeah It's just me and you, Jamie's left So now I play two Yes, we each had four

So we each play two All right, so the first one I'll play Is another one that I bought From out of season Oh, we didn't say everything else We played in that blue Oh, sorry, yeah If anyone

Mortise. Does anyone want to do it for memory? You think we can do it from memory? Mikey, the tape you've been waiting for just came in. No, Mortise. Mortise on that out-of-season reissue. The Awaken, forgotten songs

from the smell of rain, drug of the universe demo. Too scary. Getting out of Arrow 1 on that one. Imaginary Softwood's a new one from John Elliott. And then two comps we played. Funeral Moon record,

sampler. Zathara, I believe. Was it? Zathara? I don't have my cheaters on. Zasther. Zothra. Zothra.

Project Zothra 01. All right. Joby. I'll play another tape I got from out of season, but it's not on out of season. Oh, in. Just road. Oh, wow. I got it.

I got it. Wow. But I only bought it purely for the cover. Bumskidly, bum, skidly bump. Go ahead, Jamie, play it. Bumskilly, bum, scilly bum. I was only like, man, this cover is fucking sick. I've never heard of this at all.

I really thought it was going to be Dungeon Synth It's not Oh wow I like that about you how like you're still You're still just by the band is called Sirith Ungal Which Jamie knew right away Because Jamie's a little bit of a music head

I'm a little bit of a metal head Metalhead metalhead He said those words I never listen to this band But I'd you know King of the Dead this came out in what 87 I believe this record came out On Metal Blade originally

And they're like a What would you call him power metal I thought this band was more of like a doom A doom rock No Power metal Mm-mm. F-powered metal.

Double bass? Powered. I don't know. Maybe they were like the beginnings. I don't know. I did listen to it. It is not Doom at all. Okay.

No, I don't know anything about this band. I just know the name. Yeah, so I was pleasantly surprised by it. You know, it was a nice little treat. Seems like a cop out, Jamie. It seems like you're just trying to say you know who this is. And like, it makes me wonder who are you even trying to impress? No one heard it.

I was talking about it at work. And I said, you know, the name. Syrith Ungall. And I was like, I don't know. They were like, what is that? I was like, I don't know. It was probably a Tolkien reference. And then I was reading the inside and said,

Cirth Ungal is registered trademark of the Tolkien Enterprises and is used here with permission. Oh, they got permission? They got permission. Oh, Tolkien will sue you. Wow. Huh. They got old Brian Slagel at Metal Blade.

So yeah, that's what this is. Okay. Can I say it? Is this like a reissue or is this a... Yeah, it's a reissue. Yeah, yeah. This is on a label called Nameless Grade. This is not on metal blade.

No, no, this is a reissue under license on nameless blade. Oh, they filled out all the paper. They went down to the Social Security Office. They said, I like to get the forms to reissue a metal blade tape, please? Originally. Did they have to get permission from J.R.R. Tolkien? Twice? Yeah.

Probably. Man. That dude's a stick in the mud. A twice Tolkien permission? Jesus Christ, that'll take you all weekend. No, this is a very nice packaging. Again, the cover's sick. and the cover is from a fantasy book,

and I can't remember. Let me look it up. Is it the, like a, like, like with Fabio on the cover, one of those books? No, no, no, no. I have some of those. Do you need some of those? So this is not original artwork,

so they need to get permission. This is a triple permission tape. Mm-hmm. Wow. Wow. They must have a good lawyer. They must have. So, Jamie, you're right.

They are an early doom and power metal group. Okay. So I think they... It's an interesting combination. You don't usually hear those together. I think they more started in the power metal genre. And then as they progressed, went a little bit more... They got slower.

A little slower, like Black Flag, remember? What that person on their... And they grew their hair long. ...is a medical disorder. All right. So you're going to play some of this metal... Metal. King of the dead.

King of the Dead. That's scary. Mine aren't really scary. I just have one here. Oh, many, many people consider this to be among the first Doom metal releases, Jamie. King of the Dead, 84. Not 87. 84.

Doom's a tricky one because some people consider Black Sabbath to be Doom. I would call them Doom. Or at least like an early Doom band. But yeah, but that was way before 84. You're right. Stump me on that one, Jamie. There's a lot of doom subgenres, though. Oh, and the artwork is from a Michael Morcock book.

We got five permissions slips for this tape. I'm feeling like this tape... But it was painted by Michael Wheelan. So they just keep adding up all the permissions they had to do. Jesus Christ, they must have been, like... Knee deep in paperwork. Knee deep in paperwork. Like, I needed my pens out of ink!

But, you know, it was on Metal Blade, so... They caught the lawyers. They got the team of lawyers up. They got the team. Oh, they're the, those, that's, I hear, that's the law firm that got anal cut off, right? Yeah, metal plates. Oh, yeah, they can get, they can deal with, they can do, they can do, they can do, they can do a few things. They can do some stuff.

All right, I suppose I'll play a tape then. I don't have anything really big and scary, big of mean. I'm sorry, this is Derek White. I know, I know. What's next, Johnny Vanilla? I do have a Johnny Vanilla tape. I won't play it, though. I think we played the Johnny Vanilla tape,

but this is Derek White. White. Jesus Christ. Derek White, it's like really boring. And so, Jamie's like, what do you have? Like, Johnny Vanilla? Who's next? What's the cover look like?

It's like gray. That's pretty cool. Which I guess is kind of like a place on like your, like your expectations. His name is white with the cover's gray. What do we got going on here on the tape, Mike? I think you'll like it. Hold on. Don't judge it.

No, no, no, no. He's looking for the nubs. Ease and slow like a nice bath. He's talking about the actual cassette shell. I think you'll like it because, hear me out. It's like a classic maxel tape. It's like a standard tape. Which reminds me, by the way, that label that you played the comp on Funeral Moon is selling a maxel cassette.

A belt buckle. I want to put that on my belt buckle. Well, this isn't a thing you put on your belt buckle. this is a belt buckle. That's the belt. That thing goes all the way around you. It's not the belt. It's not the belt. It's the belt buckle. I don't get it. Does it come with the pants?

It does not come with the pants. Or the belt. It's just the buckle. So this tape, it's like a standard blank tape, but there's like a white ink pen on it, right? And black Sharpie. And black Sharpie. There's like marker on it. Yeah. But they're all different. And a little silver. But they're all different. They did doodles over all of them. I mean, I think you'd like, you'd like, that like think about it they just kind of it's like baskat in the way i mean maybe if they care tried a little bit with these doodles well they uploaded a picture of all of them so i think they

care a little bit they i think they tried a little bit this might have been on the tail end of the addition yeah they gave up on that one 30 oh this is tampered suite number 35 tampered sweet is that i believe that's derrick white's label uh from pittsburgh pa we mentioned pittsberg earlier yeah um speaking of the edition, it says, and this is a very like odd, just an odd statement that they say the tape is likely to be capped at 50 copies. So they don't know yet.

Not sure. They want to see what the demand is. They don't know if they're going to make it to 50, and they don't know if they'll be able to stop once they get there. But they're thinking likely. That's good. That's optimistic at least. Likely only going to be 50. So it seems...

That sounds pessimistic, actually. We either likely only got to be Or only or likely We're likely going to get to 50 guys It's likely to be capped at 50 Yeah but likely seem doesn't seem Because likely means like It's likely going to happen

Yeah So that seems optimistic The capping is going to happen Or getting to 50 is going to happen Like it's likely to be Or do you think they're saying like Is that like slang like Yo this is likely to be

Capped at 50s Likely cap son I don't know the kid's jargon anymore. Likely capped? So the tape is... Oh, it's bussing. Go three. I. I.I. Derek White from Pittsburgh, like I said, on his own label, tampered suite. Imprint that he puts out... It seems like a tape by himself every year.

Every year he gets the bug and he puts out a tape. And this is one of them. And Joby, I think that... I think if you look at the... I know you don't like just doodles on the shell. I got to see him all. You know, all of them in a room. And then I'm like, oh, now I get... So you can't even see a picture? You have to be in the room? No, no, I have to experience art. You don't have to go and experience it. Okay.

And touched by it. Okay. Well, now, what is your final tape? My final tape is taped by someone named Fool. And I bought this at the gaming convention. Another tape I bought at the gaming convention. At the tattoo convention this past weekend. Not tape in sight.

Yeah, it was dry as a bone up there. It was a tape desert. Where'd you go, Rochester, New York? Upstate. Yeah, what's up there? Rambleton Oh Tape Drift

What else is from Rochester Well they weren't at the TACON None of them wanted to come out Be like yeah, give me A motherfucking Usually I can find one person That has a tape Coyfish with a mustache

And did you say that somebody came to your booth And was questioning your tape One person came and just talked to me about it Oh talk to you about it Like what is this doing here Well no no I'd know him a little bit So he was just asking about A little music and stuff

but yeah otherwise not one other person even looked at them which is fine which is fine but yeah no one else had tapes there's usually one other weirdo or maybe not even a weirdo they're in like a metal band and they have a tape yeah yeah it's not even that weird you know you need a sign that says like show me your tape show me your tapes show me your tapes so this is full don't know much about this I can't read what label is on

Guys, I like to hear what you think about. So this is on Under the Dice. Under the Dice. Okay, it's like a gaming thing. It's a gaming thing, yeah. Wow, are the numbers screwed up? And what is this again? Fool.

How do you spell that? F-O-O-L. Country origin? Yeah. United States, probably from the New England era. Use it in a sentence. Not related to me. Jamie's mom is a fool.

Fool. Fool. Imbecile. Let me say it. What are these glyphs on the cover? That spells full. Oh, wow. See what they did there?

In an era of music streaming. That's really fun. It's really fun. This is cool. So you got this at the gaming convention. Yeah. So I imagine this is... Adapticon.

Mystical in some way. Yeah. Spooky. Okay, so I will close out the show with a tape that comes in a poly case. Ooh. And it... We hate to see it. There's a piece of cardboard inside.

Where do I put those with the rest of them? Have you ever seen a show? one shrink wrapped? A shrink wrap polygays? I haven't. Mama me. I know I haven't. I don't think it can be done. I don't think, yeah. I wouldn't imagine what kind of machine you would even use to do that. They don't make that anymore. It would some kind of, it's like, you know, when you, everyone's one of those videos pop up of, like, silicone being messed with, like, folded over. Your feet is way different than mine. Yeah. Okay, well, okay, I'll, I'll say one that we all know. You know when, like, pictures is like when the close-off of athletes' feet. No, you don't have that

I don't have that at all. Interesting. This is a new label. I have a different body. Mine is a lot right now of people trolling VR furry chat rooms. Wow. I don't have that at all either.

I don't have that at all either. Someone sent me one and now it's just filled with it. I get mostly basketball. They're pretty funny. The artist is Corvid 1 cassette, I think. I think it's called Corvid 1 cassette. Is the name of the artist?

Not really. Am I wrong about that? On the tape, what do you call this stuff that you print out where, like, the... Oh, like a label maker. A label maker with the, like, the old... D-Bossed or embossed. Okay. Sticking up, it's like the black tape with the white letters on it.

Yeah. There's a tactileness to it. I did that on one on my tapes. You did one on your tapes, too. Just say, what did you do? Raised tactile. Yeah, raised tactile. I believe the project is Corby 1 cassette.

The name of the cassette is two. the label is black pylon. It is a new label by Lee Pylon and Nicholas Langley of Third Kind Records. Oh, all right. Back to London. We're going back to London for this one.

We'rewolf in London. And I'm not sure. Werewolf in London. Pretty good at that, Jamie. You everything about going pro? So I'm not really sure what the demand was. Why? I'm assuming Lee Pylon asked Nicholas one day

like, oh, mate, I love, I bloody love your label, mate. You might not for help you out. And Nicholas was like, perhaps we'll sort another label. You're sitting on my cocaine. Move off my cocaine and we'll start doing it. Oh, they're from Birmingham? Birmingham. Birmingham. Burning hum. Shire.

Burning hum. Yes, but I have no real information beyond that this is their new label. Jamie, you could have been looking up right now. I know. He talked a big game. He talked a big game about research and development because he played all of his teams already.

Yeah, but he's playing the Pong. Can you find out in between a game of a round of Pong if this is the first release on Black Pylon? If Black Pylon may be, Black Pylon might be the name of the project and Corvid 1 might be the name of the label.

I'm not 100% on it. We'll never know. We might never know. And it's like those mysteries in life that kind of... That's what keeps life going for me, the mysteries. Black Pylon's Bandcamp has four releases

This is two Is number two What are the other ones Cassette label Initiation Safe Zone You know what Jamie I'm sorry

Never mind I'm sorry Don't tell me what they are End of the episode That's it That's it