Tabs Out Cassette Podcast - Episode #29 | 7.6.13

Episode Date: July 6, 2013

Mace., Ecstatic Cosmic Union, Pharmakon, Youth Grip, Gnome | Adze, Looks Realistic, Asymmetry, Terlu, Dozens, Knækkede Stemmer, M. Sage, Daniel Fromberg, The Rita, Trails, Strange Mountain, The Slas...her Film Festival Strategy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Gabe Holcomb from Lil' Aaron Tapes in beautiful Chicago, Illinois, and you're listening to Tabs Out. Lepo in a tumble dryer Now he spins round and round Someone left the laundry basket out Then he fell back and smashed his head Someone put the laundry in the tumble dryer Now he spins round and round Lepo in a tumble dryer dryer. Now he spins round and round. Let her tumble dry. His
Starting point is 00:00:49 eczema turns to porridge and the soup starts to fill the soup. Yo. Tabs out. That was an abrupt stop. Happy birthday, America. They won't even notice. Happy birthday, America. America's birthday was yesterday, John. even notice happy birthday america uh america's birthday was
Starting point is 00:01:05 yesterday john oh well happy belated birthday america yeah marion birthday america and by the time this comes out it'll be two days ago she's an old man by now she won't remember yeah no did you guys send america a card with a check for $10 in it. $5 gift certificate to Applebee's. Get some jalapeno poppers. You could learn a thing or two about Applebee's poppers. Tabs Out Cassette Podcast
Starting point is 00:01:36 episode number 29. Holy shit. Getting up there. John Powell, are you 29? I'm older than 29. In less than a week i'll be 31 oh 31 john pile a little little known fact about john pile no longer a boy not quite a man john pile john pile filling in for uh joe b tonight hey guys i don't even think it's uh
Starting point is 00:02:01 necessary to say you're filling in for jooby anymore. You're here so often. Yeah, I've been here a lot lately. I feel like next time it'll be Joby's filling in for you. Of course, if we're doing this, John, don't just show up. Wait for us to tell you to come. So I can't just show up? No, don't just... And when you see me, Dave, and Joe discussing Tabs Out scheduling,
Starting point is 00:02:20 don't warm your way into the inner circle and say, when are we doing it, guys? You'll get a call. Mike Mike when you look down there for a second I had the distinct impression that you were talking directly to Joe B was that like a dig at Joe B what do you mean when you were talking when you were saying that are you digging at Joe B right now
Starting point is 00:02:37 uh you know I'm always mixing it up you were like focusing on a spot on the table And I felt like you were directing it Like Joe B's down there I keep a glossy 8x10 of him underneath I'll stare down at it
Starting point is 00:02:55 Right in between his feet John Powell you want to get things started tonight? Yeah I actually do Have you ever started things off? No I don't think so Oh shit We might have some technical difficulties Yeah, I actually do. Have you ever started things off? No, I don't think so. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:06 We might have some technical difficulties. The screen with the clown with the broken wires that says, like, stay tuned, we'll be right back, might pop up. All right, so I want to play something I actually got from the mailbag last time. Ooh. John Pyle, get on that fucking microphone, man. Oh, sorry. I got this from the mailbag last time And the name of the tape
Starting point is 00:03:26 The artist is Mace Oh I remember Mace from the 90's Yeah well that's actually why I grabbed it Because I was like I like rap Mace And it was just there and I didn't know what to expect The tape is called the Metamorphosis Through Dreams and I got it And I looked at the cover and I kind of expected one thing
Starting point is 00:03:43 And when I put it on You got another thing? Yeah I got it and I looked at the cover and I kind of expected one thing and when I put it on You got another thing? I got a completely different thing. I kind of expect it to be a, I don't know, some sort of drone type thing but I put it on and it's like really, really tasteful really well executed. It's like a tasteful nude.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I mean I love drone but this was just not what I expected and it's very classy and very well done. Classy, huh? Well executed. I feel like I need to put on some long pants for this one. Does this come with a score? It's come with what?
Starting point is 00:04:13 Score? Musical score? One of those really pretentious Anthony Braxton musical scores where it's just a circle with a line through it. Is there a fine wine we should be drinking while we listen to this? Yes. Hand it over. This seems to be drinking while we listen to this? Yes. Hand it over. Alright. This seems to be on further tapes. It is, yes. I thought so. Let me take a look at all black. I dig
Starting point is 00:04:33 how further tapes, they did this on a few other tapes. I haven't seen too many things by them. I've seen the Plisifex tape. That's a good one. That is a good one. I forget what tape you played by them a few episodes back i can't i can not hold it's either v hold or antigens or something but i really like they have a very like um a minimalist approach to their the cassette shells
Starting point is 00:04:57 yeah and uh it's always very you know this is just it just is mace period the metamorphosis through dreams just in a really tiny font like silver it's like the opening credits to demolition man okay yeah what do you how do you use the three shells let me see the cover for this like i feel like when i go it's one of those fine it should be like typed across the the uh spine when you look at it. Like one letter at a time. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I really dig the cover for this too. This like cloaked figure with the moon in the back.
Starting point is 00:05:32 You guys see the super moon the other night? It wasn't impressive at all. Maybe not from Ellesmere but from mine. I thought it was like 10% bigger. It was like 9-10% bigger. The sky was so bright. It was almost like it was an hour earlier than what it actually was. The night before it was like that, but like the night before it was actually supposed
Starting point is 00:05:51 to be a super moon. I did notice that, but the moon didn't look bigger. It was just like brighter outside. Uh, yeah. Super moon facts. I hear the jury's still out on science. All right. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:03 What do I know? You know, uh, uh, god has a plan for all of us well if we're so blessed all right well let's get into this first tape here episode 29 mace the metamorphosis through dreams further records number 73 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm James Bond song. It did. Yeah. What, Soundgarden? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 We're back. All right. That was Mace. The first track, Windowpane, off the cassette. The Metamorphosis Through Dreams. On further records. Yes. Dreams.
Starting point is 00:09:47 John Paul, what did you do to the top a draw miller light tall boy can there oh you can't do you can't say we're gonna pay royalties these okay these cans they have this extra hole in there uh-huh you can like punch a hole so there's like air flow like on like a can of juicy juice okay so like when you drink it so they had a meeting at miller light and we're like what should we do to so tom ewing basically went to miller light meeting showed him how to make a shot like what should we do to uh better our beer and somebody was like we could make it taste like like beer and not water and like nap it all on the top no but that's why i wanted this though like i i knew i was gonna be thirsty i was gonna be hanging out here and I wanted something that was cool, crisp, and refreshing that wasn't, you know, going to knock me on my ass.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I've got to drive home later. Okay, understood. I'm being a good boy. You are, John. You're always very well behaved. Daddy's a good boy. A constant professional. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 All right, Dave, you want to go next here? Yeah, I can go next. How about we play something from this ecstatic cosmic union tape on eater down eater down i never figured out how to say the name of that label eider down eater down we always say it like that though with a little all right well i got yeah you started that drone how's it spelled down e-i-d-e-r-d-o-n-w-N-L-E-I-L-N-7-L-N-5. Seattle, Washington. Seattle, Washington.
Starting point is 00:11:10 The Windy Washington. Windy City. Pass that on to them. I like a good Eater Down release. It's always sunny in Washington. It is. The weather's lovely. I like the pring on the J-card there.
Starting point is 00:11:24 They do silkscreen for each batch. So they'll be on each batch. Each batch will be, I think, silver and another color. And then all the tapes. They did the Data Shock tape and Planets Around the Sun. And they were black, red, and yellow. And then they did this ecstatic cosmic union tape and something else.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And they're like, you know, this green, silver, and black. God damn, it looks really good. Yeah, it's really like detailed line drawings. And then on the back, when you flip it, when you flip the script, boom. It's like a Hall's mentholiptus. Yeah, it's flooded with that green from the front. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 And all the... Another black shell here with silver print. And it just has the name of the group, the musical act on one side, and then Eater Down Records logo on the other side. They're all like that. Looks nice. It's a very good aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:12:20 They really got their shit together. Dave Grant over there? Yeah. What's got you going? Eat her down. Just in general? Yeah, man. I love the artwork on that label so much.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I just really like abstract art like that with really thick strokes. There's something about that style. If it's abstract with thick strokes, count me in. I don't want to rain on your parade. I don't want to bring you down right now, but there are triangles on this and I know how you feel about triangles. Well, see,
Starting point is 00:12:50 John Pyle, Dave hates the triangle. I hate just a triangle. How do you feel about love triangles? Hmm. You're, uh, you're Jack, Kate, Sawyer. I'm observing one. I like that one. You like that? Iyer I like that one you like that I did not like that one
Starting point is 00:13:09 that's not good you're anti triangles why do you John Pyle if you listen to if you listen to Tabs Out you would have heard why already so go back and listen to episode 28 28
Starting point is 00:13:23 that was the last one thanks for supporting the show already. Alright, so go back and listen to episode 28. That was the last one. Thanks for supporting the show. Oh my god, I haven't listened to it yet. I was salty. I was all hyped up from being on episode 27, and then you guys do 28 without me. It was like the first time you see, like, you know... It's like coming down from a sugar high. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:42 You see that Twizzler walking down the street with someone else, and someone else is hanging out like, man. The Twizzler walking down the street with someone else, and someone else is hanging out like, man. The Twizzler was with you. I ain't got to look away. You can look away. Go get some Toblerone. Man, I don't like Toblerone.
Starting point is 00:13:54 If you've got a piece of art and there's a couple triangles in it, I'm not going to bust your balls. Okay. Okay. But if you've just got a single triangle, or the triangle is the focal point, and you're like you know what about triangle with something inside of it like what i don't know like a uh like another triangle no i just don't like how like witch house came along and their thing was triangle stop right there i also don't like how
Starting point is 00:14:18 witch house came along oh come on you guys you guys don't like some witch house no i don't ah that's that's a trend i wish didn't die i could have been king of the world it combined like you know combined like minimal synth and then and you know and then rap music together and like the same thing like i thought i was going to be like the coolest guy yeah it was like ever once that came out yeah and like before i could start a project bam it was done that's it it's like synthesizers and hitler youth haircuts and john pile is like getting to the front of the line. Youth. I wish I was a youth.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm pretty old. We already discussed that. I'm all about musical movements, but put a little bit of your own personality into it. I don't want a bunch of the same shit. No, you're right. I don't want a bunch of witch house bands with fucking triangles and mirrors.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Honestly, most of witch house, I only really liked Salem. I couldn't really get into anything else from that, but I like the idea of it, I think, more than the actual output. Joe B. says that a lot. He likes the idea of it? Don't bring up Joe B. He likes to eat lots of little things.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I don't want to talk about what he's not here. I gave him a food tip the other day. You gave him a food tip? What was it? He said he likes lots of little things and cold honey. So I said, try a bowl of grape nuts. And at first he was like dave like you know he always gets mad when i start talking about his instinct is to immediately get mad and then he was like oh i might try that yeah well you know as long as his wife does the grocery
Starting point is 00:15:36 she does the grocery shop and so if he gets any he he won't get grape nuts but he'll get like the uh you know kombucha balls that that like you know come in like uh a hemp sack and like it like it tastes just the same no it doesn't gluten-free barley clusters exactly and there's like a bear there's like a bear in a striped shirt poorly drawn on the cover to appeal to the kids not even a bear Not even a bear Because they wouldn't want to Have to represent the bear's culture Without getting it's okay Alright well let's get into this
Starting point is 00:16:11 Ecstatic Cosmic Union cassette On Eaterdown Records Released a couple months ago Here's a cut from that Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. ecstatic cosmic union damn just get me on a nice on an eye what's that commercial when they're on the beach with the beer channeling some future future days. Give me a nice Corona commercial. It's straight out of fucking canned future days right there. It's very relaxing. Damo Suzuki is like in an opium haze just like talking about shit over top of it.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And it's awesome. I could definitely see him doing that. Mmm. Mmm. Me's turn? Your turn. How about I play this tape I just got in the mail today
Starting point is 00:20:13 from Pharmacon. Tape on chondritic sound called Deserve It. It's a C32 that came out recently. Who deserves it? I don't know. I guess I deserve getting it because I ordered it. You deserve it. Normally, when you order a tape from Conjuric Sound, you don't get it.
Starting point is 00:20:31 But I deserved it, and I got it. I got to say, a lot of flack in the past for Conjuric Sound's mail order, as I assume we've all heard of. Oh, I've never had a problem. But I got to say, this latest order, I ordered this in the Jason Leskley tape, and they were here, it was like Zappos. They were here right away. Like four days it took.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Starting fresh. Right away. Some nice little extras in there, too. Nice little surprises. It was nice. I got to say, I haven't listened to this Farming Con tape yet, but I was looking up a little thing about it. It's a C32.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Both sides are the same. Program repeats on the B side. I'm never a fan of the program repeating on the B side. Really? I don't mind it if it's good. I mean, I'll just... If it's really long, I don't mind. Yeah, it's a C3232 i think it's a live set isn't long it's i think it was recorded at the empty bottle in chicago um but it was released
Starting point is 00:21:32 last october has uh you know the distinctive chondritic look of uh the very dark artwork on uh can you pick that up, John? Thank you. Spray-painted cassette. Always spray-painted on the cassette. Did he get any on the leader? Yeah, a little bit. That's going to do hell to my heads here.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Send you the bill. But I like this. I think this is the third... It's like a nice plum The third edition of this Yeah I like these stickers That Conjuric puts on there Like they take up the entire length
Starting point is 00:22:14 Of the cassette and they're just like It's like the same Printing as the It's like the Tetris long bar Yeah what font is that Dave I want to say I I don't know. I think that looks like Times New Roman in all caps. I don't know. Times New Roman in all caps?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. You going to let a librarian show you up after you took a night class for web design, Dave? I don't know what it is. You going to let that happen? For anyone out there looking for web design work, Dave doesn't know what font Chondritic Sound uses. Well, you know, there aren't a lot of web-safe fonts out there, Mike.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Ooh, this smells like you just spray-painted it today. I don't like when you order cassettes from a label and they do a lot of spray-painting. When you open it up, you get that whiff. Ooh, that's gross. Or when it still has that sticky... Oh yeah, you gotta let it dry. Yeah. I live a very pure life. This isn't sticky at all. It's not sticky? You didn't think it was sticky at all?
Starting point is 00:23:09 No, I didn't think it was sticky. I like when it feels really dry. Like when you get spray-painted tapes. What does something that feels really dry feel like? Well, there's spray-painted tapes that feel like a normal cassette shell, but then there's other ones that almost slip right out of your hands. What is really dry? Really dry.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Are there degrees of dryness? Because if something's dry, it's dry. It's not getting more dry. I think you can have stuff that's really dry where it's so dry, you touch it, and the tips of your fingers start to crack and peel a little bit because it's so dry that it's so dry. Like a salt drink? so dry like a salt really dry yeah okay like a salt lick okay i don't think salt i think salt absorbs moisture though you think because it definitely does yeah sand like carnivorous sand oh can anyone see john
Starting point is 00:23:59 child's face when he said that we got really into. What is your history with carnivorous sand, John? I don't want to talk about that. You don't want to get into it? All right, well, let's play, you know, we'll probably play like a good chunk, maybe half of the tape. A good chunk.
Starting point is 00:24:13 A good chunk. Oh, I could use a good chunk right now. Yeah, we'll go get one after the show. All right. Of Pharmacon Deserve It and C32,
Starting point is 00:24:22 Conjuric Sound number 265. Here it is. deserve it and see thirty two congeric sound number two hundred and sixty five so so so so so so so so ¦ I'm a good man, I'm a good man, I'm a good man, I'm a good man, I'm a going to be your friend I'm not going to be your friend I'm not going to be your friend I'm not going to be your friend I'm not going to be your friend
Starting point is 00:26:55 I'm not going to be your friend I'm not going to be your friend I'm not going to be your friend Oh ¦ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, And I'm... so so uh uh so so so Thank you. I'm not afraid of the dark I'm not afraid of the dark I'm not afraid of the dark
Starting point is 00:30:55 I'm not afraid of the dark I'm not afraid of the dark I'm not afraid of the dark I'm not afraid of the dark Thank you. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I am the hero, I am the hero, I am the hero, I am the hero I am the hero, I am the hero, I am the hero I can't believe I'm gonna have to go back down I can't believe I'm gonna have to go back down
Starting point is 00:32:10 I can't believe I'm gonna have to go back down Thank you. Pharmacon. Deserve it. C32. Unchondritic sound. Little cut from that. It's pretty sick. Margaret Chartier. Her project. Or Charier, her project.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Or Char Diet, as I say it. Mike, didn't you have a funny story about? Oh, that we frequently mention him on the show, Sal. He used to do the label Peasant Magic a few years ago. Apparently lived with her for like a year, and neither of them knew that the other was into noise or anything like that were they just some like good roommates working good roommates uh probably not they probably just didn't talk to each other i bet they hated each other did neither of them
Starting point is 00:33:35 listen to music or yeah or like anything like come home with like a record or nothing like you know like you know a shirt that or a patch or anything that was, hey, I noticed you're wearing a coil shirt. Nothing. They just drew a line down in the center of the house. It's like, you stay over there. I'll stay over here. I bet you it was like eight months
Starting point is 00:33:56 after they were living together and someone realized something was going on. That the other one had the same interest as them and then they were like yeah you know it's been i'll be moving out in four months anyway so what's the point we've been living together eight months so we don't want me to break the ice now yeah exactly i don't even know your name uh but that's available that's like i think like the third edition of that tape yeah yeah i mean she's blown up yeah much with like the the lp on sacred bones and it's gotten like kind of more mainstream attention for like a noise record i guess oh yeah so yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:34:33 like pitchfork and like stuff like that or doing interviews with her and the internet loves it yeah there's wild about it and i will say though the internet's wild i did i did i saw her play like i've seen you play a couple times wild did i did i saw her play like i've seen you play a couple times wild internet last time i saw her play was a couple weeks ago and she absolutely crushed it it was definitely like it was one of the most impressive sets i've ever seen in philly yeah it was it was just it was super minimal it was just using like you know like a looped synth and a tape and vocals, and it was so good. No telephones, David.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And an old issue of USA Today. I was expecting it. I wanted to hear a curveball in there. Oh, Dave loves a good curveball. I do like a good curveball. It's my favorite pitch. Oh, speaking of favorite pitches, you guys know about the knuckleball, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:22 My dad can throw a fucking mean knuckleball, dude. Are you sure he can? Dude, it pops around like this. Do you know how many pitchers in Major League Baseball can throw a knuckleball? How many? Like four. Really? Dude.
Starting point is 00:35:33 There's a documentary about the knuckleball on Netflix. And, like, no one can throw it. I assumed. I came home, and Liz, my wife, was watching knuckleball. And she asked me, how many people do you think can throw a knuckleball and I was like, I don't know, 80% of pitchers? And it's like hardly anyone. If my dad throws a knuckleball, I'd say 70%
Starting point is 00:35:52 of the time I can't catch it. Well, you're also not a professional Major League Baseball catcher. Yeah, but I can catch a ball. I can catch a ball. Well, that's it. It bounced. Didn't catch that tape, Dave. Hits you right in the head. Jesus Christ. You see that?
Starting point is 00:36:07 Now I'm having doubts about your dad's knuckleball. This is what happens when the Peacekeeper B's not here. Don't throw it back at me. Because I cannot throw a catch knuckleball. That really hurt. I'm sorry. Well, I assumed with all these knuckleball stories you have that you were going to have the instincts of a lion.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Well, you know, we're only like 20 inches away from each other. You think it's that much? Only 20% lion. I mean, if my dad threw any pitch from this distance and aimed it at my head, he'd probably hit me. Especially if I wasn't expecting it. I dropped like four tapes in that process. This is why the show needs to be on YouTube. All right, John Paul,
Starting point is 00:36:47 what do you got? All right. So it's funny because speaking of when I saw Pharmacon Live. Are you all right, Dan? Yes. I saw you check your hand.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I don't know if you're looking for blood. Well, it feels like it might be bleeding. It went right to the temple. Knock it off. It hit me like right. I hit myself.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I almost got stitches in the same spot. I want to point out that your hands didn't even move. It's like you had no reflexes. If you people only knew how close we were. We could reach out and touch each other right now.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Very close. A little too close. Anyway, when I saw Pharmacon play, one of the projects that she played with was this project called body of light from Arizona. And one of the, the people in the project is kind of involved in this sort of weird label
Starting point is 00:37:32 collective called aesthetic house. And actually they're, they're being distributed by chondritic at this point, I think just recently, but he gave me a couple of tapes after I was talking to him and I haven't even listened to this one. It's called Youth Grip. This is a pretty good segue.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It's the artist. So I figured since, you know, listen to Pharmacon, and I got this at a Pharmacon show, we'd try it out. So I know nothing about it. Other than the label Acidic House, they're from Arizona. They have a program where they will send any inmate in a prison, like any prison inmate, free tapes. And they'll do a special edition on a screwless prison tape
Starting point is 00:38:16 and in a poly case, and they'll send it to them. Have you talked to them about how many requests he's gotten from prisoners? I have not heard anything about it. There was a write-up in some paper about it when they started doing it and they kind of posted it on their website. For free they'll send them them. They don't have to send him cigarettes? No.
Starting point is 00:38:35 No cigarettes, just tapes. I'd be really interested to know how many prisoners are getting noise tapes. I like the sparkly paper they got going on here. Yeah, that was how all the tapes I got was that very nice kind of stock with kind of minimal black and white print on it. I want to give you, here you go,
Starting point is 00:38:59 I want to put a little bit of praise on you because this tape is not just black and white. It's a manila and black. Not only is it manila, but it's got some glittery tint to it. Dave, did you not notice that? I don't know how hard I threw that tape at Dave's head. I literally just said that. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah. It was the last thing I said. When you're talking, I'm usually thinking about what I'm going to say next, and I don't really listen to what you're saying. I can understand that. So that's why usually, like, when, you know... Also, your memory has been shit lately. Well, you know, I'm laying off the diet soda. Okay, that's good. I'm practicing
Starting point is 00:39:38 with flashcards. Okay, that's good. I got some flashcards downstairs. What does diet soda do to your memory? Well, apparently, aspartame is bad for your memory. But I thought the vertigo still had on aspartame. Yeah, but don't they all use like sucralose or something now? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:53 But my memory is seriously getting really bad. Yeah. I can't remember shit. Also, Dave, you should cut out diet soda and like. I've been eating lots of salmon. You eat lots of salmon. I would not like, you know know we'll get into it later i'll tell you what you should what else you should do later all right well let's what's this the label is called aesthetic house
Starting point is 00:40:14 the group or project is youth grip yeah um what side are you playing he's playing side a you got a reminder side day here uh whichever that. That's how I got it. Whose turn is it? Oh, yeah. You said that. What are we doing? Dave's going to open his eyes and say, where am I? Who?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Who are you? Who are you people? That's like an episode of Star Trek, I'll tell you about while we play this tape. All right. So here's something from the youth grip tape on. Is that how you spell it? Aesthetic house. What is that word?
Starting point is 00:40:43 That's not it. I thought you said aesthetics, like. No, aesthetic, like you're like. Aesthetic, like.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You're an aesthetic, you're like, you know. That has something to do with religion, right? You're, you're, you're an austere person in search of the truth.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I like their logo. Yeah. Pretty cool. It's like, yeah, it's, well, you can look it up.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Just Google image it. All right. Youth grip. All right, youth grit. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Thank you. ¶¶ Thank you. That's what we do tonight. I'm going to go. I used to be such a baby when I was a baby Oh, you're a child of mine, you never saw, you never saw Oh, yeah I'm afraid I never did away And now I'm afraid I never did away And now I'm left to you Now I'm left to you My dear, I love you
Starting point is 00:44:48 I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you If I know If I know If I know If I know Find your way back home
Starting point is 00:45:08 Find your way back home Find your way back home I'm sorry. I'm you will go And pray you will go I pray you will go Black ladies once covered your eyes A midnight hell, it's a great surprise I loved a little too much in my early days I'm afraid I'll never get away Black ladies once covered your eyes
Starting point is 00:47:08 Black witness once covered your eyes Black witness once covered your eyes Black witness once covered your eyes When you want to know that you're right When you want to know that you're right All right. Youth Grip. That was tight. Yeah, I really like it. Do they have anything else out?
Starting point is 00:48:11 Yeah, they have a bunch of stuff. And it didn't look like they had a big cartel or any kind of web store, but now it looks like you can get a bunch of their tapes from Conjuric. And they have a ton of different releases that the that the labels done and it's all from different projects. But I, from what I get together, it's all really super incestuous.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Like it's one of those things where it's the same, you know, five or six people, you know, nice playing and, you know, different configurations. I was into that.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Yeah. I was really into that. That's good. If you just Google youth grip you get a lot of uh gloves nike gloves gloves i guess for youth g love grips for you special sauce and the special sauce you get any nintendo power gloves oh remember that the power glove was awesome yeah i never had one i always wanted one well it wasn't awesome to play with, but it was awesome to have. It was impossible to play with, right?
Starting point is 00:49:06 I remember in high school, one of my friends put one on and punched it out of a car window, and he was fine. It's good for those sorts of things. It's good for those sorts of things. For playing games, it was terrible. What was the game? Was it Bomber or something? Bomber Man?
Starting point is 00:49:24 There was a main game that came with the glove. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out? No, it wasn't involved. That would make sense. Well, the glove had buttons on it, right? Yeah. So you had to use the buttons and move your hand. That seems impossible.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Well, no. I think the buttons were there. You know what? To match the coding of the game. Yeah. I'm confusing the glove with the robot. The robot came with a game. Yeah, Rob the Robot came with Gyromite. That's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I never even knew about Rob the Robot. The robot failed horribly, right? Yeah, it was a huge flop. I think Gyromite was one of the only games they made as a Rob the Robot game. I'd love to get the robot. I bet you can find it on the eBay. It's actually funny. Someone actually on Just Say on Facebook posted a picture.
Starting point is 00:50:13 They were at a farmer's market, maybe like Boothwinn or Newcastle or something like that, and bought a robot. Oh, yeah? Those are regional locations, by the way. Yeah, if you listen worldwide. Yeah. And you're like, where the fuck? And they're like yeah oh i know where booth win is booth win where's booth win is that pa or maryland pa everybody knows about booth win farmer's market yeah really really good farmer's market definitely if you ever if you're like touring the mid-atlantic
Starting point is 00:50:39 and you want to go have the true regional experience and you're here on a friday or saturday booth win booth win and caltown yeah and marcus hook no don't go don't go to the hook i had to pick somebody up at the marcus hook uh train station one time i'll never go back there's a train station marcus yeah i remember sam venuti back in the day used to always talk about like marcus hook could be really cool. Why? I don't know. He wanted to – No, he couldn't. It's like Tom Ewing and other people are like –
Starting point is 00:51:09 You know, it was like, yeah, we should all – I think it was Sam Van Aarde. It was like, yeah, we should all move here and make it a cool – To Marcus Hook? A cool spot. We can all have children with weird defects. Exit one on 95 as soon as you get into PA. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Whose turn is it? It's me's turn. Dave's Corner brought to you by marcus hook oh what do you got dave um i'm gonna play a tape oh you are by a project how convenient that i think i know the name of oh you're gonna say this one wrong this is first word gnome g- G-N-O-M-E. Okay. Space. Space. Vertical bar. Vertical bar.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Space. Space. A-D-Z-E. A-D-Z-E. I think it's nomads. Oh, yeah. Nomads. No, nomads.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Don't make jokes about AIDS, John Pyle. That's not a joke about AIDS. Too soon, John Pyle. Definitely too soon. John Pyle does not like that I accused him of making a joke bad AIDS. Don't make jokes about AIDS, John Pyle. That's not a joke about AIDS. Too soon, John Pyle. Definitely too soon. I don't like that I accused him of making a joke about AIDS. I don't make jokes about stuff like that. Well, you shouldn't. Nobody does.
Starting point is 00:52:12 No. Too soon. Let me see. What do you got there? Who put this out? This is from Headway. Oh, good label. Tabs Out favorite.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Is it? Well, it's one of my favorites i enjoy oh yeah i remember this one with the i didn't want to like this tape because i hate the same reasons of cats yeah for the same reasons and like especially cat have you noticed like cats on synthesizers has been like a thing on the internet keyboard cat just you know is that what started it all it might be, yeah. Everybody needs a picture of a fucking cat on a synthesizer. And, like, they had, like, this is a cat in front of a fucking synthesizer on the cover.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Jumped off the internet, got right on a J card. But I listened to this and it's really fucking good. Yeah, it's a good jam. Oh, shit, hold on. Yeah, I agree with... Let's pause this. Pause this. Pause it.
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Starting point is 00:53:45 We're back. I'm a little surprised that we like... Wait, there's one product. Oh, goddammit. Oh, there's Krispies over there. Oh, yeah. You want those? Snort them up, buddy. Snort them up.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So, we're playing this tape on Headway. Yeah. Nomads, I think. But made all wacky in the spelling. All wacky. You guys. David Gruber and Will Eisenogle. Those clowns. You turkeys.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Wait, this was previously released? Never gets old. As a CD, I'm assuming. All right. Let's go into here. Nomads cassette on headway tapes. alright let's go into here nomads cassette on headway tapes
Starting point is 00:54:29 that's all we're saying I feel like we've been gone for so long alright we're coming nomad nomads headway loving ¶¶ ¶¶ © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ ¶¶ © BF-WATCH TV 2021 ¶¶ Thank you. Nomads. A smooth burner. Gonads. John Pyle, grow up, you turkey. That was a good jam.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I believe you can still grip that from headway. Yeah, it's a good one. Label from South Carolina Carolina Nice warm bath accompaniment I like a good warm bath tape combo Yeah I'm just getting there with some bubbles I haven't had a nice warm bath in a while I can't fit in the bathtub anymore They gotta make you a specialty one
Starting point is 01:00:20 They got to otherwise my knees stick out And they just get all cold You gotta get drop sealing in your bathroom So you can knees stick out and they just get all cold. Start hitting the ceiling. You got to get drop ceiling in your bathroom. Take it out and have your knees go through it. Give me a long tub. Just give me a little door
Starting point is 01:00:31 that I can open to stick my feet through. Call bath fitters. They're the perfect fit. No, don't call bath fitters. That shit's disgusting. They just lay that bath fitter over top
Starting point is 01:00:39 and you get all the mold behind it. It can't get out though. You need a good ceramic. Yeah. There's something nice about putting your feet on the ceramic too. It just feels like you're really standing on something. Like some candles.
Starting point is 01:00:51 It's good. Little me time. Yeah. I got a question. You still poop naked? You're talking to John Pyle. I've never pooped naked in my entire life. If I got the time, yeah. You know, I like to
Starting point is 01:01:06 get in there and get a nice magazine. I don't have the time anymore. I got kids screaming at me. I got the UPS guys on the front porch. It feels grosser to me if I don't have some pants around my knees. No.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Let's just go on. I want to ask a question question have we mentioned yet on this podcast that we now have a message board on the website no we haven't we should mention that yeah in case anyone's listening and you if y'all want to yap about some tapes cruise on over to the tabs out website we put a uh i don't know if it's necessary it probably is not necessary to have the message board but i think it's a nice little thing i think it's a nice thing to talk i mean you know there's other message boards to use well you know chondritics goes down you know and fangs and arrows has it's a good place to go but i always
Starting point is 01:02:02 feel really dirty when uh i go there on my my phone and the keywords for the header pop up and it's like Viagra boner. Yeah, what is with that? I don't understand. And it's like, it's just bad. Somebody hacked you. No, nobody hacked him. That's just, it's just bad thing. You shouldn't do that when you design a website.
Starting point is 01:02:21 But yeah, tabs out message board in full effect fire grab owner hong kong they based it on like your browsing history i'm pretty sure oh we got you no it's not uh john pile do you do you have a uh an account at the tabs out yeah is that forum yeah jp is my name i'm i'm on the i'm on the tabs out forum oh how many posts you got i'm probably up to like two three i can tell you it felt really really nice to just be able to call myself dave yeah dave's taken dave was well if someone else had dave i have the power to change i've been changing people's names dave i get into that um change people's names change people's avatars change people's posts if i want to i've never been given this kind of power before it's really going to my head intoxicating oh sometimes i just change something just to feel the hand of god all right
Starting point is 01:03:15 do we have any other announcements oh we should say that the second tape if anyone is for chrome donators if you go to the website you can learn how to donate to Tabs Out and get the releases that we have. The second tape, the jump rope tape, is near completion. We have the master. We have the packaging. We're putting it all together,
Starting point is 01:03:37 and it should be out in the mail soon, along with another little surprise, another little keepsake, a trinket. I better donate. It comes in a nice little pouch. We'll put some pictures of it when they're all done. Sewn together by my wife. A little gym bag.
Starting point is 01:03:54 To borrow a line from another podcast. It was made by my wife. What podcast are you borrowing that from? Comedy Bang Bang. I think it's like a line from one of their Sasha... Yeah, Borat. I love Borat. You do love Borat? from comedy bang bang i think it's like a line from uh it's one of those sasha yeah yeah i used to i used to i used to like to mix up borat austin powers and napoleon dynamite and say the wrong the wrong quotes but in their voices i used to make people so mad. Give me one right now. It's so hard to think of. On the spot.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I can't do it. John, give me a good butthead. No, I pride myself on being a very talented voice actor. Let's hear it. Show us what you got. We got another tape coming up. you're in. Show us what you got. So like,
Starting point is 01:04:46 we got another tape coming up. And, uh, uh, whoa. That's gonna be good. That actually wasn't that bad. It's pretty good. It's like I was there.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Yeah. It's like I was watching MTV in the 90s. Yep. All right. I'm gonna play a tape from a project called Looks Real. called looks a little
Starting point is 01:05:05 anderson at the end yep well i know my paper boy and you ain't him it's not bad uh a tape by a project called looks realistic tapes called where does it come from released by constellation tattoo uh i believe in the beginning of this year, back in January, it's the duo of Ryan Mulhall and Joseph Bastardo, who also does the project Bastion Void. And amazing fucking artwork, if you've ever seen any of the stuff that he's done. There was also a VHS version of this released.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Oh, yeah? And I gotta say, shout out to Joe Bastardo, because my VCR ate it. And he sent me another copy. Oh, nice. Does it come with riff tracks? Come with what? Riff tracks?
Starting point is 01:05:53 Like the Mystery Science Theater thing? It does, yeah. Bonus commentary. Bonus commentary, yeah. I have a question and if the guy who does Constellation Tattoo or however you say it listens to this podcast their release numbers
Starting point is 01:06:12 like this release number is purr0020 p-u-r-r-0-0-2-0 0-0-2-0 if it has anything to do with fucking cats why purr what is the deal i don't understand because there is also a per tapes purr tapes so like maybe the same person does both of them and
Starting point is 01:06:34 this i don't understand whoops oops i want to know all right well i'm going to play off the side a of this tape there's a a little nugget in the beginning, a little 14 second intro, and then a track called Happening in Your Community. We'll play both of those from Looks Realistic.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Pretty white cassette shell with maroon imprinting here. I like that. Very professional looking. It is. It's got, like, all the cover has all these, like, the boxes with different photographs in them. I likey. Me likey. Me likey
Starting point is 01:07:14 a lot. Joe Bastardo did the artwork for this, too. I'm trying to look here if it said, like, who took the photographs. And I do not see it on the fly. So we may never know. We may never know. We may never know. All right, look realistic.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Looks realistic. Where does it come from? Constellation tattoo. Here's some cuts. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to go. Looks realistic. Where does it come from? Where does it come from? Well, sometimes there's an island off the coast of Sicily called Stromboli with three active volcanoes, and it normally comes from one of those three active volcanoes.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Stromboli was the name of the bad guy in Pinocchio as well. Are you serious? What? Yeah. There was a villain in Pin active volcanoes. Stromboli was named the bad guy in Pinocchio as well. Are you serious? What? Yeah. There was a villain in Pinocchio called Stromboli? Yeah, dude. He was like the head of that circus. It took all the kids away to a place called Pleasure Island.
Starting point is 01:14:56 It took people. Oh, I see what you did there. Oh, origin story. I love a good origin story. Yeah. No, that's not the origin story. They turned people into donkeys, didn't they? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Donkeys are bad. I had that VHS when I was a child, and there's a part when Pinocchio gets lost in the woods. And he gets a boner. And there's a crow that's talking to Sam. But it's talking in the background. And I was horrified of that part. The crow?
Starting point is 01:15:18 Of the crow, the woods. It was dark. There was eyes in the background. I was horrified of it. Did a midget hang himself? My brother would constantly put it on and make me watch it, and I would be in tears. My parents, looking back on it, never stopped that,
Starting point is 01:15:32 which makes me wonder who they loved more. Constellation Tattow just put out a new batch. There's a motion sickness of time travel, a Luna Luna split. Luna Luna, Canna Tuna.una canna tuna can luna luna canna tuna a white poppy cassette and uh john powell how did you how do you say that other project oh i don't know what was it like a pro like a tabs out pro thanks one thing that i can't i don't know yet if i like it or don't like it i feel like i like it about this label is that when they put out new stuff you i believe you can only buy it as a batch
Starting point is 01:16:13 like you can't buy an individual tape oh weird and yeah you buy the batch it's really like it's a sweet deal like this one you get the three tapes and i think there's a poster designed by uh whoever does white poppy i'm not really sure i'm not too familiar with three tapes and i think there's a poster designed by uh whoever does white poppy i'm not really sure i'm not too familiar with that project but i think it's like like 15 16 bucks something like that oh that's good um after a while i believe you can buy like mixed batches yeah like you can buy but when they first come out i'm pretty sure you have to buy like the whole thing i mean if it's for that for that low of a price i mean i feel like that's that's totally reasonable it's a bold move you know it's a it's a good move though
Starting point is 01:16:50 because like you know i feel like there's a lot of labels right now that like you know when they release a batch they take into consideration all the material and they try to release like a cohesive batch of material so go a step further and say like you know i'm presenting it as one thing but not only that you have to get them all together at the same time it's kind of especially since you're not like because they're pro dub tape pro dub tapes and they look really nice there's a lot of work put into them and uh you know for that price that's a that's a pretty good deal and i wish they all shared a package like a single tape that's the worst. I kind of wish. I just got a little bit of a tape art dream boner.
Starting point is 01:17:29 What is it? I kind of wish that every batch was, every tape took a panel from the same artwork. If it was four tapes, then every tape, when you lined them up, it would make one picture. Oh, that'd be nice. You know?
Starting point is 01:17:44 That'd be good. I'd like that. I would like to see that like the uh the old don ross baseball cards like the mvps yeah the guard spell kid backs we've referenced that before actually um i like the little um that 14 second bit in the beginning of the looks realistic tape because after it plays i expect to hear like a really like air buckle your safety belt at like like section one page four module five module yeah what is water all right jump out you want to go yeah i got um what do you got i have the i guess is the second demo by asymmetry who are a black metal duo i think a few episodes back i played a uh a cassette by roman cross this is the guitarist and vocalist from roman cross but it's him collaborating with the man behind finland's cosmic church who are equally
Starting point is 01:18:41 amazing and doing something a little bit cleaner and a little bit more melodic than Roman Cross. Is this the J card here that folds out to this? Yeah, the J card folds out of the poster. It's on Kun Pavelis, I think is how it's pronounced. Really, really, really excellent finish label for just kind of weird black metal. I think they've done stuff for Circle of Ouroboros and a few other people.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I think Circle of Ouroboros might be involved in the label. Let me see this tape. It's a nice pro-printed, pro-dubbed tape. Program repeats on both sides. Again? Yeah, again. But it's the kind of thing where it's very longer, drawn-out, meditative kind of songs. So it's really not like...
Starting point is 01:19:24 Well, look at the tabs on this tape doesn't feel i don't know if i've ever noticed a tape with tabs like that you've never seen like that like the double wide maybe i have but like it's double wide but like there's one goes from that was all mike like one goes from yeah i did yeah i pulled that all fucked up like they're uh ones from the top ones from the bottom oh shit yeah that's a you know for nuances of a cassette show there's so many there's so many we could be here all day i've noticed that with a lot of the a lot of the european tapes that i've gotten like i've like posh isolation stuff in the back a lot of it's all weird like that like a lot of it's
Starting point is 01:20:03 screwless but not opaque i'll tell you it's a crazy place over there. You know what they call a Big Mac? They call it a Whopper Royale. A Whopper Royale? They call it a Po' Boy.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Super Value Plus? They call it a Ham and Po' Boy sandwich. Wow. Hand me that tape back. You know, for a podcast... A Stalin double stack. You know, for a podcast called Tabs Out, we rarely talk about the tabs. Yeah, we should start looking at the tabs, if the tabs are in or out on a tape. Mike, I find it interesting that you're on a label called 905 Tapes, and you don't break
Starting point is 01:20:40 the tabs out of your tapes when you send them out. No. Little known fact... Before you went pro-dub. Yeah, little known fact. I like the tabs out of your tapes when you send them out. No. Little known fact. Before you went pro-dub. Little known fact. I like the tabs in. I don't like the tabs out. Wow. What if I want to record over it? That's deep. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I'm a deep guy. It's meta. I really got into deepness over the summer. Like Jim Morrison. Yeah, I really got into the doors recently. Remember how long summer used to be
Starting point is 01:21:07 when you were a kid? And you could get into stuff? Guys, guys. You would leave fifth grade and when you got back in sixth grade, you would be into Holt. Like, oh man, I got really into it. Like you found like,
Starting point is 01:21:17 you heard Queen on the Wind's World soundtrack or something. Guys, it's not the Doors like... Like a door. Like a door. It's like the Do like like a door like a door it's like the doors of perception oh oh dave that's deep yeah did you know that like this tape's from europe we're gonna talk in the dark for a little bit yeah it's like deep it's like i've been really thinking about egypt lately and like the whole thing with Fidel Castro
Starting point is 01:21:46 and the missile crisis. Yeah and like it makes you wonder like like you know Zuckerberg was Operation Northwoods. Yeah and the Philadelphia experiment. Do you ever wonder if like when you see one color you're like that's green And someone else is like yeah that's green But when they're seeing green What if they're seeing like red
Starting point is 01:22:10 But like they call it green Like you ever think about that stuff What do you think Paula Deen calls it If you really want to get topical Turn the lights back on Back to reality Alright jump on Asymmetry
Starting point is 01:22:24 You got it queued up to the screw side No I don't have it queued up at all Turn the lights back on. Back to reality. All right, jump on. What's the rule? Asymmetry. Yeah. You got it cued up to the screw side? No, I don't have it cued up at all. It needs to be rewound. It's in the middle here. It needs to be rewound. Well, sorry, guys. You know what I have?
Starting point is 01:22:33 I was jamming it. One other thing about that cassette show is the waffle grip is all one plane. It's all one axis. There's no waffle. It's just like a vertical line. It's rewindinginding so i can't really say it or horizontal line grip so that could just slip right out of your hands if you pull it this way yeah because you just gotta be careful you just gotta be don't pull it to the left or the
Starting point is 01:22:55 right just be really careful if you want to hang on to it and you want to move it around just shake it up and down you know it's funny i remember like when we did episode like one or two you had i think it was something on sonic meditations that had a waffle grip to it yeah i can't remember what it was maybe an expo 70 tape or something and when i saw it i was like oh my god i've never seen a tape with that kind of like grip on it before like that pattern that texture and then i realized like since then i've seen 872 tapes with that. Yeah. I think I just haven't been looking. Oh, yeah. Oh, I've seen those before with just the vertical lines. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Oh, I'm sorry. The horizontal lines. Yeah. I did the same thing. See that? All right. John, what is this again? Asymmetry.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Ashes into wood demo. Here is a cut off of that. Here we go. And I have to go And I have to go And I have to go And I have to go And I have to go And I have to go I'm not alone I'm not alone I'm not alone Thank you. guitar solo I am out of my mind I'm going crazy Let's go now I'm not going away
Starting point is 01:26:14 I'm not going away I'm not going away I don't remember that. Asymmetry. Golden Page off the Ashes into Wood demo. That was good. Yeah, man. Yeah. I definitely like that dude in any incarnation that he's playing in.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Like, Roman Cross is super raw, and I really like that, but this is a little bit more refined in terms of the songwriting, and I'm okay with that. I remember liking Roman Cross a lot when you played the last one. When did this come out? Did you mention that? bit more refined in terms of the songwriting and i'm i'm okay with that i remember like in roman cross a lot when you played the last when this come out did you mention that uh 2012 last year last year i mean it's still pretty easy to come by i think yeah it didn't i don't think they did like a particularly small run of it so you should be able to track it down through you know nice dave's corner me's turn what you got dave i'm gonna play this tape by
Starting point is 01:27:27 a project called turlue oh it's on a uh label called i think you say department tapes but on all the tapes it's just d-e-p-t tapes department period it's just tapes tapes but it's department tapes it's a label out of me, and I think this project's out of Mexico, too. This tape's called Royal Broadcast. I got a couple of these out of a mailbag last episode, and I really like their aesthetic. Did we play something from this label last time? I don't think we did.
Starting point is 01:27:59 No. I don't think we did. But, yeah, I really like the label aesthetic. I don't know if it's just for this batch because, like I said, we only got those two last time. But it's really cool. It's like this brown, what would you call that, like a fibrous paper, like you can see, like, all the fibers in the paper that it's printed on.
Starting point is 01:28:18 It's almost like a vellum. Vellum? Yeah, almost like a vellum. But it's totally opaque. It's got a name, and I have the name on the tip of my tongue, but I can't think of what it is. It reminds me like... It almost reminds me like the beach a little bit,
Starting point is 01:28:30 looking at that. Very sandy. And there's something that covers it, and there's a little bit of waves on it. It's like a hairy beach. You ever been to a hairy beach? It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:28:41 There's hair everywhere. What are those... Hair crabs. What are those crabs with like there's big shells on them pube crabs they're not even like crabs they're something else they're horseshoe crabs horseshoe crabs oh when they die it's not so bad and they're all you ever go to there there's a beach in delaware called like i don't know if it's slaughter beach first of all it's crazy that there's a beach called slaughter beach and slaughter neck i think right i think
Starting point is 01:29:03 it's called slaughter neck but uh there's another beach near there that, like, it's the most bobo. Like, the beach is made up. The makeup of the beach is 75% sand, 25% gravels. Bottles? Bottles. Bottles, okay. 25% bottles. I remember I went there when I was, like, eight or nine,
Starting point is 01:29:24 and there were just horseshoe crabs, dead horseshoe crabs everywhere. They smell so bad. Yeah, it was not a good time. They just bake in the sun. They just, I mean, there's no other smell to compare it to. Is this the tape that, oh yeah. You want to read that, Dave? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:39 I thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah, this is interesting, but I just want to say like all right this says road the name of the tape is royal broadcast it says royal broadcast is a series of alternate soundtracks with science fiction soviet animations of the 1970s and 1980s now i've never seen a soviet science fiction animation i'm not even a science fiction fan but that description sold me on this tape for some reason now i listen to this tape, and I'm not really feeling the connection too much, but whoever made this, if the artist is feeling that these are
Starting point is 01:30:12 alternate soundtracks to the Soviet sci-fi animation, I'm cool with that. You must have talked to digital strategist Josh Milrod. Oh, yeah, unemployed. Over at the Hexbreaker Compounds. Got all kinds of ideas for selling things. Yeah. He sold me on this, I have to say.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Currently a free agent. Oh, yeah. If anybody wants to pick up his, hire him. If you got a deodorant that you want to push or, you know, nice dandruff shampoo. Mm-hmm. Milrod's your man. I could use those things. All right, hand me this tape.
Starting point is 01:30:48 I repurposed it in a Noroco of a tape that I didn't like. Why? Was the Noroco broken? Yes. Now I really, really like the tape. You just got a, because you hate broken Norocos. I hate them. Oh, I hate them.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Now, this is just a blank, white, label-less cassette tape. Thankfully, there are screws. Are you going to... Screw side. The tabs on this one, are all tabs? One comes from one side, one comes from the other? Because this one is too. Give me another tape.
Starting point is 01:31:24 That one's tabs out. That one's tabs out. that one stabs out that one stabs out my kingdom for a dab motherfucker these are all tabs out alright we'll do the research while we play this but I wanted to ask you Dave are you going to write the artist name on this save
Starting point is 01:31:42 no I don't do that you don't do that what happens if this gets mixed up with something well write the artist's name on this tape? No, I don't do that. You don't do that? What happens if this gets mixed up with something? Well, I listen to all my tapes. Okay. Multiple times. So you know I could take any tape off your shelf, and as soon as I put it in, you'll be like,
Starting point is 01:31:59 well, Pearl Drills, Hanson Tapes. Considering we don't live on an active fault line or anything like that, and I don't have any children, I don't have to worry about tapes falling over into a big pile on the floor. Not yet, Obama. All right. At the most, one or two tapes are going to fall off. You want me to rewind this, or you got to skew it up to something?
Starting point is 01:32:20 And the odds are they're not going to be the exact same looking. No, it's skewed up. Okay, on the screw side or B side? Screw side. If you obviously weren't listening to anything I was saying. Well, here we are. All right. On department tapes, Turlough, Royal Broadcast, here's a cut. Thank you. Thank you. © transcript Emily Beynon Thank you. Turlough.
Starting point is 01:36:20 That was awesome. That's a purdy cut. No, that was really fucking good yeah that's really good the whole tape's pretty damn good possibly department
Starting point is 01:36:30 tapes or dept tapes dept tapes DEPT tapes was it all capital or all lowercase it's all lowercase yeah
Starting point is 01:36:38 I mean you know DEPT tapes DEPT out of Mexico I think that project's out of Mexico too which I don't know if
Starting point is 01:36:46 uh department tapes if Turlew is that dude's project or what I don't know but cause there's probably
Starting point is 01:36:52 only one person in Mexico that does noise tape well I mean you know how many is that what you're getting at
Starting point is 01:36:57 there and we haven't gotten very many you know uh who else we got that one tape from Croatia
Starting point is 01:37:04 what's that project? Joby would know it. He would tell me right now. Joby wouldn't know it. No, he would know it. Starts with a D. Why are you staring at John Powell? Just because John Powell's...
Starting point is 01:37:15 He's my focal point. John Powell's in Joby's seat, so you think he harnesses the powers of Joby when he sits there? Call me right now. Call me. Tell me the name of this project. We both really like it. Department tape's number three. powers of joe b when he's there call me right now call me tell me the name of this project we both
Starting point is 01:37:25 really like it department tapes number three uh i'm assuming fairly young label but definitely worth checking out what was the other tape you got by them do you remember uh no i don't remember well we'll figure it out all right i'm gonna play a tape but i have a really bad memory oh dave's memory is it's like a horse kicked him in the head. A horse kicked me in the head? It might have happened. Cave Recordings just put out a batch of four tapes about a week ago.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Tapes? Tapes. Invisible Path. The Ether Staircase. I'm not even going to try to pronounce cave number 19. You just figure it out. Who are you? And then the tape I'm going to play right now called Dozens.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Or by a project called Dozens. The tape's called Born Waiting. It's getting late. It's a side project of millions. It's the stuff that he doesn't care about as much. When millions puts this stuff out and he doesn't like it, it's Dozens. It's a duo of frank oulette or oulette or alate i would like to say wallet and right wallet wallet like a like a pizza wallet like a pizza wallet frank wallet makes sense and let us know how you say your name and ryan Connolly. Oh, Sean Connolly's brother.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yeah, Mike Connolly's dad. Heir of Connolly Florin. Yes, a C-25 in addition to 50. I really like the look of the cave recordings. They all have a similar aesthetic in that there's like you know nothing on the spine and nothing there's no text on the cover it's just a solid image like uh you know ripped up paper type collage and they all look really good and i'm not going to complain about that but the one thing i hate about all these tapes and tapes on ghetto naturalist and tapes on the fuck is that label called that i always confuse confused uh d'artagnan and on d'artagnan it all looks good i'm not i'm not saying it doesn't look good it looks awesome darwick always looks really good i hate when
Starting point is 01:39:43 you have to when you look at a tape and you're like you don't know who it is so you open it up and you look on the shell and you still don't know who it is this one i'm just noticing now is an exception because it says dozens born waiting on the shell so that aside the other ones don't all say that you open it up you still don't know you look at the j card you still don't know and you have to take it all out and unfold it and it says it on the inside yeah i hate that so fucking much you know what there's um there's a couple i'm a busy man there's a couple i got a lot of shit to do okay i don't have time for this no you don't stop exaggerating okay yeah but uh i gotta move my car it's street cleaning today that now i'm doing this yeah i'm
Starting point is 01:40:23 gonna go to court and fight off this $35 ticket because I couldn't figure out if this was a dozens tape or a Gajal Hornet tape, whatever you say it. That's Cave 19. All that said, I agree with you. And I think another label that does that and it makes me mad, not all the time, but to a certain extent. They don't do it all the time or it doesn't me mad not all the time but to a certain extent they don't do it all
Starting point is 01:40:45 the time or it doesn't make you mad all the time they don't do it all the time when they do do it it makes me mad stunned stunned i'd say like 80 of the stuff that i have on stun there's no name on the spine yeah it takes a while i i always give stun the past because this shit is so brilliant it's also a love hate it's also a love hate relationship because i kind of feel like uh even the stuff on stun that i didn't like the first time i listened to if i listened to it a couple of times i really like it so it makes it forces you to like really look at the artwork and get familiar with it so like even if you don't have the text as a reference on the spine if If you really like it, you should still be able to point it out on your shelf.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Man, you guys worry too much. I was just going to say. John Powell, we have first world problems in this room. John Powell, you weigh in on this. How do you feel about it? I mean, I don't necessarily have a problem with it, except when we're doing Mailbag, and I'm trying to find the tape of my dreams.
Starting point is 01:41:43 Because we're all forcing you to hurry up and pick something. I've got two guys yelling at me. I don't have time to unfold a bunch of J-cards. I got a simple solution for that. John Pyle doesn't get anything out of the mailbag anymore. No, no, no. I should get stuff out of mailbags. Done. Wipe your hands clean of that. No, no. I should still get stuff. John Pyle, just to let you in on this,
Starting point is 01:41:58 Dave said you shouldn't be in on it anyway. Well, Dave, I mean, Dave... I had to talk Dave into it. Dave's a separatist in a lot of ways. It's understandable. What does that mean? He's talking about your mustache, Dave. By the way, Dave, I thought that was a weekend mustache. Last weekend.
Starting point is 01:42:13 What day is it? Last weekend. You said that was a weekend mustache. You're missing my point. What day is it? I saw you during this past week and you still had it. What day is it? Do you take it off during the week?
Starting point is 01:42:23 Yep. I shave it every Sunday night. Oh, you got a thick growth. Dave Thick Growth Doyen. I like to look at my tapes on the wall and say, right there I see an egg sack tape. I see a door tape. I see a cults tape.
Starting point is 01:42:40 I see a moth cock tape. You know what, right there? There's a tape right there. It's like red with black lines on it. I don't what that is now i gotta get up to get it well you're gonna have to get up to get it regardless that's a good point that is a good fucking point dave i got something else i want to complain about it was like that like you have uh different lands over there i mean i love different lands i really like their at first i thought it was always they found like some secret stash of all white norelco cases but mike pointed
Starting point is 01:43:11 out to me that actually spray paint them why they're spray painting them they do a good job spray painting them though they slip right out of your hands um but you know no no names on the spines on any of those um before i play we're going into this dozens tape real quick i want to say one thing. So my neighborhood that I live in has a Facebook page, right? Where people mainly complain about dogs being off their leash and gunfire. I went on there the other day and asked if anyone had cassette drawers that they didn't need anymore. And were just sitting around the house.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Because I thought maybe people have them in their basement. They're not really using them. drawers that they didn't need anymore and were just sitting around the house because i thought maybe you know people have them in their basement they're not really using them yeah and if anyone had any of that could have especially because those napa valley wooden cases go for a pretty penny on yeah i would take those i would take the three drawer ones whatever they got you know what this one asshole responded with you could use a box as if i was sitting at home with tapes everywhere and then i thought like holy shit you know what a box does hold goods i could a box does you can put stuff a box is a container no shit you you can put tapes and then i tested and i said good good news everyone i put the tape in a box and it worked fucking asshole man all right well i i proceeded to tell Mike that that's what
Starting point is 01:44:26 happens on the internet everybody's an asshole even if they only live a block away from you there's that barrier on the screen that's all it takes dozens born waiting something off of side A from the recently dropped C25
Starting point is 01:44:40 on cave recordings cut C25 on Cave Recordings. Cut! I don't know. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. so so I keep getting stuck. Dozens. Dozens. Baker's Dozens. Baker's Dozen. Just a dozen. Just write you a dozen.
Starting point is 01:50:01 On Cave Recordings. Lots of them. From a batch that just came out last week. Check that out. Good gems. Yeah, man. John Pyle. It's my turn.
Starting point is 01:50:13 All right. Will him. Nobody can hear you, John. All right. Sorry. I was getting my tape. So next, I do not know how to pronounce the name of this project. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:50:26 It's on Nostalivo. Oh, I like this label. I think the only tape I got on this label was blank. I think I like this label. I don't know. It's a Danish guy who used to perform as Allie Pisser. The Danes. Allie Pisser.
Starting point is 01:50:44 He used to perform as Allie Pisser. The Danes. Allie Pisser. He used to perform as Allie Pisser. It's a bad translation. It really means elementary school teacher. Yeah. Knakade Stemmer or Knakade Stemmer or something like that. I'm not sure. I don't speak Danish. You don't?
Starting point is 01:50:58 Loser. No, I'm a loser. But it's really awesome. Like, it's basically the same sound as Alley Pisser where it's just really minimal, repetitive junk loops. And I love it. I can't get enough of it. Like, I've played this for people and they've been like, what?
Starting point is 01:51:18 What? I don't get it. Like, this is stupid. Like your mom and your dad and they were like, John, what is this? John? Put on some Garth Brooks. Oh, God, it's Alley Pister.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Don't you know that? John, remember when we went to go see Bob Seger down at Borders? He played an acoustic set. What label is this? We're right up front. It's Nurse to Levo out of Detroit. Is that the new Nurse Etiquette label?
Starting point is 01:51:42 I believe so, yeah. Looks a lot like Nurse Etiquette label? I believe so, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Looks a lot like Nurse Etiquette stuff. Could have just kept that name. Could have. I never know. You know, sometimes people have different reasons why they change stuff. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 01:51:59 We got an email from the guy who does Dub Ditch Picnic. Yeah, I saw that. He was explaining. He told us how to say his name correctly because we were saying it wrong. But we were wondering why he does Dub Ditch Picnic and Prairie Fire. Yeah. Prairie Fire he does with someone else. And Dub Ditch Picnic he does alone. Yep. I think this tape also.
Starting point is 01:52:19 So maybe. I don't think the guy, Chris, who did Nurse Etiquette did it with someone else. And also. But sometimes, you know, time passes. You don't like the guy, Chris, who did Nurse Etiquette, did it with someone else. And also... But sometimes, you know, time passes, you don't like a name anymore, you want a fresh start. I can respect a fresh start. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:35 This tape also proves that all of them have the tabs on... Oh, let me see the tabs. Oh, shit. Because it's got to be based on which side the tape's playing on. Yeah, you know what I think all tabs the other one I bet doesn't have a domain called like you know I hate tabs
Starting point is 01:52:52 dot tapedreviews.com what I'm just saying there's like no contradiction with like you know his label having tabs in and having something Dave we're just talking about how earlier you know, his label having tabs in and having something. No, Dave, Dave, Dave.
Starting point is 01:53:07 We're just talking about how earlier in the show we were discussing how. Dave, come back to Earth, Dave. The tabs, we were noticing that the tabs both face different ways. Yeah, but you said. I think it's all tabs. Okay, but you said tabs in. You said something about tabs being in. You said.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Yeah, this proves that like all, like when, when the tabs are in there, they all face opposite ways. Okay. I cut you off. Yeah. I only heard tabs in and then I cut you off.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I apologize. What the fuck is going on in your head? I was talking, it's that goddamn mustache. Um, I think, I think it's because that other tape, the,
Starting point is 01:53:43 it was a double wide notch in the top. So the tabs really stuck out. It was really easy to notice because I've never noticed that before either. Yeah. But now that I'm looking at this, I do think all tabs look like that. Yeah. Well, you're mistaken. About a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:54:00 About more than just that, Mike. All right. You're going to have to say the name of this project again. Not only was I not listening to you, but even if I was, I know I couldn't say it. The person that does this project posts on one of the message boards that I'm on. The Tabs Out board? Is it the Tabs Out board? No, you should post on the Tabs Out board.
Starting point is 01:54:24 No one does. It's like scumfuckers.blogspot. Close. Very close. Is it? That's close. Shitpunch.underwear. Just play the tape.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Let's just play the tape. Clothpiss. That Christ fucker. I'm just going to call it All pisser because I can pronounce that. I don't care. I like the spine on this, how it just has little... Yeah, everything from that batch had that weird little wingdings on it. I think those are dingbats.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Who's that guy? Who's that little guy? There's a picture of somebody. Looks like Walter Matthau. That is Johnny Nasalevo. Let's just play the tape. Off the B-side. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. I don't know. I'm sorry. I don't know. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. so The The I'm going to go back up to the left. I'm not sure if back up to the left. I'm going to go ahead and get out of here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Great. He's having a fantastic year.
Starting point is 02:07:37 I'm doing great. John Powell's doing great. Yeah, that's the artist formerly known as Allie Pisser. What's he called now? I don't know. I can't pronounce it right. I'm not going to. Kinicade Stemmer or something like that.
Starting point is 02:07:50 I'm not, you know. That's probably not right. You're not going to say it, but then you said it anyway. I'm not going to say it, but I'm going to say it. You know. But I could listen to that all day. Well, legally, you could listen to that all day. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:04 It's not against the law are you sure what i want it's john pile sexy body no is it is it alley piss or is it christy alley piss did some some thanks dad what he's making fun of the joke that you said earlier i feel like now you're compounding the joke that you guys didn't get it by saying something that neither of us got. Dave, what do you got? Let's move it on. I feel like we're just going to have to keep on going with this. What do you got?
Starting point is 02:08:37 Let's do a tape by a project called MSage. Ah, who does the label? Patient Sounds? Patient Sounds. He sent us like, I feel bad because he sent us like 50 Patient Sounds stickers, like these round Patient Sounds stickers, and I left them downstairs and my kid got to them and now it's like once a week
Starting point is 02:09:10 I find one crumbled up underneath something and I feel really bad because they're nice stickers I got one of them around here somewhere I put it on something but I left them on the table no disrespect, how you doing? you want to play a tape by him? yeah I'm going to play a tape by him? Yeah, I'm going to play a tape by
Starting point is 02:09:26 M. Sage, dude out of Fort Collins, I think. But this tape is on Moongliff. Yeah, I listened to this tape. This is really fucking good. Yeah, it's tight. Turn your subwoofers up.
Starting point is 02:09:44 At the sound of the tune, turn your subwoofers up. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know where it is. Oh, it's right in front of me. I got it right here. Yeah, the Receiver's Peakin' cassette on Moon Glimpse. Yeah, it's kind of like an interesting choice for a cover there.
Starting point is 02:10:07 When I first got it, I thought the J card was inside out. Oh, yeah, because the outside has some text that goes from the front panel to the inside panel. Yeah. A little bit of yellow finger painting going on there. Now turn it over and look at the other side. Now turn it over and you got a couple wavy lines. But they're all dedicated. Both panels are dedicated to one panel of paper.
Starting point is 02:10:28 You know what? I may have said this before. I don't know. But a new found like of mine is when there's printing on the inside of the spine. I don't know why I love it so much. You know what? I'm going to try to fold this spine inside out. Yeah, you could use it this way, Dave.
Starting point is 02:10:47 I just want to say that at least one time per episode for the last 15 episodes, Mike has ruined one of my tapes in one way or another. Whether it's wiping the ink clean off the tape. I got acidic sweat. My sweat has a very... I got like ketchup for sweat. Or what has a very... I got ketchup for sweat. Or what was the other thing I do? What was the other thing that you do?
Starting point is 02:11:11 You play with things until they tear. All right, Dave, in my defense, I also fucked up John Pyle's tapes last time. I spilled beer all over something you had on. That doesn't build your defense. That just means you do it to more than just one person. One man's opinion. You had something on hospital.
Starting point is 02:11:29 I spilled beer all over it. Oh, my God. Don't even remind me. I forgot that. My flesh is ruined. John Pio, can you do calculations on that watch you're wearing? I can. Does it go at the tone?
Starting point is 02:11:40 12 o'clock. Andrew Waltman. Does it have Wi-Fi? Yes. Wait, is M. Sage not a person? I don't know. Because it says on here, Andrew Waltman plays electric double bass.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Allison Sheldon plays cello on campus cycles. Okay, so Allison Sheldon plays cello on one track, and Andrew Waltman is M. Sage. Those are, okay. I always assumed it was going to be like Marky Sage or Matthew Sage. I get an Andrew Waltman. I was just assuming that both of those artists were guest artists
Starting point is 02:12:17 featured on the M. Sage Shyamalan. Well, it says Andrew Waltman plays electric double bass and then it doesn't say it. You think on everything? Who is M. Sage? Jump everything? Who is M. Sage? Jump out. Who's M. Sage? He's a very wise man.
Starting point is 02:12:32 We'll have to do some research here. I like this. It's like an off-white, maybe a gray shell. But did you see there's printing on that sticker? Oh, mama like. Look at that. Yeah, look at that. Is that white on white?
Starting point is 02:12:48 That's, this is not. That is. Are you sure you didn't just sweat on this? Because I've sweated on a few tapes that look like that. Yeah, my sweat doesn't do that. So this looks really fucking nice, man. It's a, so you got your white shell. Not a pure white.
Starting point is 02:13:00 Not a snow driven. Not a virginal white. Yeah. It's a I just blew you on top of mine it's like a little sparkly gray
Starting point is 02:13:08 and it's got a white sticker on the shell and then there's like a faint like there was no ink in there but the the cartridge
Starting point is 02:13:19 gave it all it had the black cartridge gave it all it had and it was just enough to put this little wavy line in the background can I see that it's nice and it's not all the way gave it all it had. And it was just enough to put this little wavy line in the background. Can I see that? It's nice.
Starting point is 02:13:27 And it's not all the way across. It's just in a little section. So you're like. Just in the corner. So you look at it and it's like, is that an accident? Or is that for. Is that. That's a handsome tape.
Starting point is 02:13:37 Is that just like the way that they put it on? And like the glue on the other side of the tape bled through? Wow. That's really nice. That's cool. All right. Well, let's play this M. Sage tape. The receiver's peaking on Moongliff.
Starting point is 02:13:50 And get to the bottom, find out who this Andrew Wattman character is. Mm. All right. Here. You got this queued up on one of these sides, Dave? Yes. The A side?
Starting point is 02:14:04 Yeah, A side.side okay here it is Thank you. Thank you. The The The The The The The The The The The The
Starting point is 02:16:00 The The The The © BF-WATCH TV 2021 I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 Thank you. The Thank you. M. Sage. Matthew Sage. Figured that out. You should have seen him jump on the microphone. Sleuthing. I was sleuthing.
Starting point is 02:20:18 I got the answer, boys. I was rerouting through the back door. I was hacking, and I got that answer. I called NSA. They got it to me. Matthew Sage. M. Sage. The receiver's peaking on Moongliff.
Starting point is 02:20:34 Good tape. Yep. Deep bass. Deep. Ooh, got some rumbles going in the room. I had my decorative figurines fall off the shelf. Loosened my bowels right up. I've been needing that.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Well, you know, when you eat pizza five times a week. Yeah. Is that what you've been doing? And you don't like Metamucil. John Powell leaned in like he was going to say something. There was a time when I had to take Metamucil like every day. False alarm. He's not going to say anything.
Starting point is 02:21:03 Wait, why did you have to take it every day? I had problems. Sounds like it. I not going to say anything. Wait, why did you have to take it every day? I had problems. Sounds like it. I had a lot of problems. Dry stools? More like no stools. No stools? No stools?
Starting point is 02:21:11 For how long? Well, I think that's because they're dry. There's stools in there. I don't want to talk about it. I had to drink the Metamucil drink for a while. Like you didn't poop for a week? Longer, Michael. Longer than a week?
Starting point is 02:21:26 Yeah, it was the worst experience of my life. Really? Well, all in all, I would say that's not that bad of a life. Now, I make up for it and everything's fine. But at the time, it was very hard. I think we hit a soft spot with John Bob. Surrounding stools. No, you hit a hard spot.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Yeah, he wished he hit a soft spot. He wouldn't have to drink his weird juice. All right, turn the lights back on. Yeah, turn the lights back on. It's making me uncomfortable. Don't poop in my house. I'm going to play this tape we got in the mail from Daniel Fromberg. Now, the note that came with this tape says that Daniel Framberg is 13 years old
Starting point is 02:22:07 He probably didn't want you to mention it I think we're being catfished Mike thinks we're being catfished I think this is a fully grown adult Who's putting out stuff as a 13 year old Catfish is like my favorite show dude Did I mention that? No
Starting point is 02:22:21 Oh my god I can't There's a new season now I can't stop watching it You like Have you ever been catfished? No, I've never been catfished. That you know of? That I know of.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Oh, there we go. You guys got to get into it. I've catfished people before, though. Have you? Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely, definitely. You got to get into it. There's a lot of people with love letters out there.
Starting point is 02:22:40 I'm just kidding. Never mind. Does a catfish have to be a romantic thing? I think that's how it started but like can you catfish someone for other reasons I think the term has evolved to encompass like all kinds of pranking okay yeah I catfish people before delivery man no wait I'm not
Starting point is 02:22:57 catfish gotcha but here I actually bought this pizza for the prank so you might as well eat it alright this tape is called battery Acid Volume 2. One of these red-tinted shells. It's like a little piece of candy. You just want to take a bite out of it.
Starting point is 02:23:14 Yeah, it's like cinnamon, so it'll be spicy. It's one of the candy apples that I don't like. I don't like the hard ones. No, no one does. Like with the glass on the outside. It's like eating a light bulb. Yeah, which you don't like. I don't like the hard ones. No, no one does. Like with the glass on the outside. It's like eating a light bulb. Yeah. Which you don't want to do.
Starting point is 02:23:30 Alright, so we'll play a little bit off of this Daniel Fronberg tape. There's a track on the B-side I want to jam. And I want some sort of proof that you're... I want a picture... Even if it's not Daniel Fronberg. I want a picture of a 13-year year old holding this tape sent to me to prove that doesn't really prove anything that just proves
Starting point is 02:23:51 that you know a 13 year old yeah also i don't want to ask for pictures of 13 year olds to be sent to me nobody prank call crank call crank call wrong number, well, let's get into this Daniel Fromberg Battery Acid Volume 2. I believe self-released or maybe... Looks like self-release tape. Oh, no, GSR. Maybe that's something. On GSR. I'll look up what that is.
Starting point is 02:24:16 Gun Suckin' Roses. Gun Suckin' Roses. Daniel Fromberg on Gun Suckin' Roses. If his dad finds out that that's what that stands for, he's going to get his Nintendo taken away. Alright, here it is. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and do a little bit of a run through. so Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:26:54 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Daniel Fromberg from Battery Asset Volume 2 on Great School Recordings. That's what GSR stands for. And I'm thinking this is legit. Yeah, it's definitely legit. I'm looking at the kid's Facebook page right now.
Starting point is 02:28:03 And I think this is real and i gotta say he's probably way cooler of a 13 year old than oh well maybe probably he's definitely we we have we share the same he's cooler than i've ever been it's amazing that 13 year olds have the same haircuts that they did when i was 13 parted in the middle going down like just above the ears i'm glad to see that's that's still around um there's a picture of him on his facebook uh profile holding a guitar the guitar looks so big on him just a little guy got a poker shirt on but that's awesome i hope he doesn't i hope it's not ironic either he's matured past that he actually really likes poker oh yeah he's like he's like steve albini he's not
Starting point is 02:28:44 like he is he's probably steve albini He's like Steve Albini. He's not like... He's probably Steve Albini's kid or something like that. And he's probably putting us up to this. Putting us up to what? I don't know. What are you talking about, John Pyle? I don't know. I'm just paranoid, man.
Starting point is 02:28:58 I hope he doesn't peak too early and become a jaded asshole when he's like 18. He's already... Yeah, he's jaded now. Ugh. No, he's past that phase because he's wearing 18. He's already, yeah, he's jaded now. Ugh. No, he's past that phase because he's wearing a poker shirt. Yo, did you see, there's other pictures where he's standing behind a music collection. It might be bigger than mine. And he's, look at his tape collection.
Starting point is 02:29:15 Or is that in a store? He's doing an in-store performance in this picture. Okay, it's not his own tape collection? So he's already played bigger shows than me. It's probably at Amoeba or something crazy. But yeah, thanks for sending us your tape, Daniel. I really enjoyed it. Into it.
Starting point is 02:29:30 Into it. Backed. All right, now tune out because John Paul's going to play something and it's no way that it's safe for a 13-year-old to listen to. And you probably like your taste or way of all past that anyway.
Starting point is 02:29:43 Yeah, but them black and white. You've heard all this shit before, man. Boobs with knives for nipples. You come up with it. Your collection. Yeah. Look at your stash.
Starting point is 02:29:54 Anyway, what do you got? John pile. All right. Well, I got the case in point. Retrospective part two box set on total black canadian label um this is a box set compiling some of uh the read is kind of more recent that's a damn fine box that is a damn fine box
Starting point is 02:30:16 it's a very nice box yeah it's a four cassette set it comes in this box it's got a booklet and a bunch of show flyers and some pornographic photos. A lot of pornographic photos. And a poster. How many butts do you think are in there? Not enough. It's the reader. You want butts.
Starting point is 02:30:37 John's an ass man. The reader's like the Sir Mix-a-lot-of-harsh-noise-wall. Actually, I shouldn't say that because I'm not a big Sir Mix-a-lot-of-harsh-noise-wall. John's an ass man. He just like to surmix a lot of harsh noise wall. You know? Yeah. Actually, I shouldn't say that because I'm not a big surmixer. What would normally come in a box of that size? I don't know. Like jewelry.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Because it looks like a jewelry box. Yeah, but what jewelry? It's huge. A pearl necklace. It's even got like padding. Oh, the little fluffy padding at the bottom. So a necklace would come in there. A rosary.
Starting point is 02:31:06 A rosary? Like a real fat rosary. Like a real fat rosary. Yeah, it's a big box. That's a really nice box. Like an old Catholic woman rosary with a giant cross on it. Like a really guilty cross. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:19 At one time it bled and they got on the local news. But it turns out it was just marinara. Well, there was one that cried too, and they haven't debunked local news. But it turns out it was just marinara. Well, there was one that cried too and they haven't debunked that one. So it must be true. Yeah, an all black box with a nice pasted on cover here.
Starting point is 02:31:35 And tons of, ooh, we got a lot of photographs. Who's this gal? I have no idea. Some, uh... You said these are show flyers? Yeah, a bunch of show flyers. Oh, this is nice. Nice little collection.
Starting point is 02:31:49 Yeah. It's pretty cool. Now, what is going on here? Oh, Jesus Christ. What, is there some ass play going on there? Put that away. Let me see what's going on. Of course Dave wants to see it.
Starting point is 02:31:57 Yeah. Well, you can't just, uh... I want to just see this filth. Ooh, this book is pretty... John Pyle, you paid for this. Cover this book. You don't get to talk. Hey, quit flicking it. You're going to bend the corners. It's this book is pretty. John Pyle, you paid for this. Cover this book. You don't get to talk. You're going to bend the corners.
Starting point is 02:32:09 He's going to ruin it. He won't ruin it. I will destroy it. You think I could tear this whole thing in half? No. What are you seeing, Dave? What do you got? Some ass play. A lot of ass play in this Rita box set.
Starting point is 02:32:26 So if you're looking for a four cassette box, this is how I round out my, like, if I'm doing an infomercial type thing. If you're looking for a four cassette box with plenty of ass play, you're going to want the Rita Retrospective No. 2. Where'd this put you back, John Pyle? Reasonable?
Starting point is 02:32:45 I want to guess. I want to guess. I want to guess. I'm going to say that this box set you got from Canada, is that what you said, with shipping, cost you $69. No. Dave, what do you think? $35.
Starting point is 02:32:59 $35 for this? $35. No, more than $35. It has to be. No, it was $40 altogether together i think that's really good for this but but the box itself was just was 25 bucks and it was just the shipping to canada 25 for for this yeah that's really fucking good yeah that's a good that's a good price for a quality product a quality product with smash play you got more you got more insert oh there's a poster in here too
Starting point is 02:33:23 jesus christ this is so nice now because you're you can spend 35 on like an american tapes box set that comes in like like an old box a corn meal with like a little bit of corn meal left in it and there's like a cdr with like a sharpie on it and then two c95s and it's just got scribbles on it with and you don't know what project it is yeah yeah it's got a on it and you don't know what project it is. Yeah, no clue what project it is. It's got a line across it. You don't have any clue what it is. But this is very nicely put together. Oh, I'm dropping everything.
Starting point is 02:33:54 So what are you going to play? Which tape number? I'm going to play tape number one. It's Side A of Seawolf Leviathan. Which, as far as the more recent Rita stuff goes, kind of floored me. I really like it a lot. Can I have the little pet? You may not have
Starting point is 02:34:09 the fluffy stuff. Well, we'll see about that one that he's playing. Alright, well let's play a little bit off the ass play box set from the Rita. That's where all those fluffies came from. All the what? All those fluffies. Mike, when adults have ass play, it makes... I'm not going to go to the right. The The The The I'm going to to let you go. The The The The The engine is a 4-speed automatic transmission with a torque of 3,000 rpm.
Starting point is 02:38:50 The engine is a 4-speed automatic transmission with a torque of 3,000 rpm. The The engine is a 4-speed automatic transmission with a torque of 3,000 rpm. The engine is a 4-speed automatic transmission with a torque of 3,000 rpm. I'm going to go ahead and get the car out of the way. Who wants Rita's? Yeah. Side A of Seawolf Leviathan. I just realized that we were listening to the Rita when you said that. Off the Rita. Who wants Rita's? Respective volume two.
Starting point is 02:40:57 You get chunks of real lemon in that one, dude. Limerita. Is Rita's a national chain? I don't know. Maybe. You got water ice all over the place? What do you think the buy-in is? What do I think?
Starting point is 02:41:08 What? How much do you think it costs to buy a franchise? You want to get a franchise? Yeah. How much? Ooh, I don't know. We could do this. I know Sal works.
Starting point is 02:41:17 It's like half a mil. Is this something you looked into? No. Somebody told me. Okay. It's probably not true, actually. Why would anyone even look into that? let's open a redis man why not let's all go to read john paul can you still get this box ad from total block um i think there might still be copies left
Starting point is 02:41:36 yeah i'm not 100 sure but i think there might be copies left it's worth picking up if you uh good product for a good price and i'm not being uh funny when i say that this is a really really nice put together box set no i would have expected it to be like a lot more than what you paid yeah and i always know what you're willing to pay top dollar john pile i am john pile likes to uh make a good investment. Yeah, a good investment. Right now, he's watching Mad Money, but the harsh noise version. The guy's like, you're going to want to buy Krumer. Buy Krumer.
Starting point is 02:42:15 All right, Dave, what do you got? The one that's made with actual photographs. I'm going to play this tape by a project called Trails. Oh, I like this one. Oh, it is nice. It's wrapped in a, what's the name of this label? Spirit Cat? Spirit Cat, a label from a Florida label.
Starting point is 02:42:35 Yeah. Interesting artwork. Looks like the carpet at Kahunaville. And it's even got a little. It's got like a Basquiat drawing on it. Like a Basquiat tiki guy or something. Yeah, on top of a tie-dyed... What are the things you look through when you turn them? Kaleidoscope?
Starting point is 02:42:53 Periscope. No. You guys have Wii kaleidoscope? You just sit really close to the TV and you turn the Wii remote in front of your eye and it changes it? I don't think that does anything. I think you're just holding it there long enough where you think you're seeing things.
Starting point is 02:43:10 The guy who does this label wrote us a little note when he sent the tapes in. And it was written on hotel stationery. And he explained that by saying he travels for his job. He inspects funeral homes for the state of Florida, which seems like it's a pretty grim job, but this is not a grim, uh, well,
Starting point is 02:43:31 I mean, I guess if you're in the funeral home business, that's probably, probably like the least grim aspect of it. What do you think he's looking for? Like there's stashing bodies somewhere. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 02:43:41 some like, you know, I wonder if he's ever found one weird, like weird, like blood gelatins, like clogging up the pipes. Oh yeah. somewhere. Yeah, you know, some like... I wonder if he's ever found one. He's like, bust it! Weird like blood gelatins like clogging up the pipes. Oh yeah, you don't want to do that. Yeah, you gotta be careful with that. That's gonna get into the drinking water. Don't get me started on that.
Starting point is 02:43:54 I mean, you got your preservatives that have you know, you get the cheap preservatives with the starches in it and it makes all the innards gelatinous. You know. Trails also from Florida. Ben from orlando florida this tape what is this tape called calavella nope you sure
Starting point is 02:44:14 so yep calavella no it's called calvella spearcat number nine here it is. Thank you. guitar solo Thank you. guitar solo Thank you. Thank you. Goddamn. Trails. I have to say, if the Boredoms did a Lifesavers commercial, it might sound like that. That got, you remember Weekend at Bernie's 2? Yeah. Oh, this. Yeah, that makes me do the Weekend at Bernie's 2 move.
Starting point is 02:49:12 That was a good one. That was a good one. The movie? I like the movie. Weekend at Bernie's 2, yeah. That was a good movie. Which one did you like better, the first or the second? Well, you know, the first one is a classic.
Starting point is 02:49:23 The first one's a classic. I prefer the second. You prefer the second? Yeah, like know, the first one is a classic. The first one's a classic. I prefer the second. You prefer the second? Yeah, like when he comes to life and he does a little walk, yeah. I like that everybody has their own Bernie impression. Yeah, because that was completely different than yours. Dave's was more focused on the shoulders, where you were
Starting point is 02:49:39 more like a zombie. Yeah. And Dave's got the face down. sunglass well dave also has a mustache so it helps ernie had quite the mustache all right i'm going to do something off of uh uh lilirn tapes gabe holcomb's label who did the intro tonight this is a tape by a project called Strange Mountain, which is one of the musical projects of Marcel Thi, a resident of Jakarta, Indonesia. This came out a couple of weeks ago on a batch of three tapes that Lil' Earn released, Chicago label. I don't know if I've ever talked about this before but uh have you guys ever seen
Starting point is 02:50:26 this guy gabe who does this um label his blog that he does called cassette players no where it's like uh thanks for checking out the tabs outside i put something bad on it on there thanks guys no problem it's just it's just uh like a tumblr of auctions and like google sales for cassette decks with no like added like commentary nothing just like the the images and text from the auctions and you know it's fun to look at i enjoy it that's pretty cool he doesn't know he i'd like him to update a little bit more often. You know, you go on there, you see the... You see the Alf cassette deck,
Starting point is 02:51:12 and you get a good chuckle out of it. Then you go back a week later, and it's still up there. And you're like, all right. And you go back another week later, and it's still on top. And then you just start getting a little angry. You need another one. You know there's auctions out there. It's the art of restraint.
Starting point is 02:51:27 The what? The art of restraint. What is restraint? I can't help myself. Well, yeah. We all know that. Hand me this tape. I think you have it right now.
Starting point is 02:51:35 While we play this next tape. I'll attempt to restrain myself from doing something. You are just like. This is a mess, dude. Yeah, I don't know.'t know do i have it oh it's right here in front of me that explains why i can't find it that explains it i like this cover art there's like a it's like a mountain some clouds nice picture but it's real softened what would be the the effect used there what would how would you describe that image? It's muted. Yeah, maybe a little bit muted.
Starting point is 02:52:10 Hand it back to me because there's triangles inside and I don't want you to get all pissed off. Well, you know, like I said, you can do it right and you can do it wrong. Oh, I don't know if I like that. Hand it back over. I don't know if I like it. Dave's got triangle-itis. He needs to take Metamucil
Starting point is 02:52:24 three times a day um all right play something off off a side a on this tape uh oh i like the paper they use for this it's oh maybe i'm just really sweaty right now i was gonna say it feels really slick but i just think my oils are emitting a little bit highly right now. Well, you know. All right. Well, here's something off the Strange Mountain Slow Midnight cassette C32 on Lil' Learn tapes. Lil' Learn. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 © BF-WATCH TV 2021 © BF-WATCH TV 2021 There we go. Okay.
Starting point is 02:57:49 Strange Mountain. Slow Midnight. On Lil' Earn tapes. Lil' Earn. Am I saying that right? I guess so. Lil' Earn. It's hard to say.
Starting point is 02:58:00 I'm not gonna... Lil' Earn. Lil' Earn. I don't think it's hard to say. John Pyle. You wanna take us out? Yeah. Wait. First, John Pyle, settle us. Is it easy to say or hard to say. I'm not going to. Lil' Learn. Lil' Learn. I don't think it's hard to say. John Pyle, you want to take us out? Yeah. Wait, first John Pyle, settle us.
Starting point is 02:58:09 Is it easy to say or hard to say? Wait, what? Lil' Learn. Lil' Learn. Hard to say. Obviously, I lose. Go ahead. Your turn.
Starting point is 02:58:17 It's hard to say. Next. Yeah, it's definitely hard to say. It's so hard to say things any say love Any day Day And I'll take Anyway With me No more
Starting point is 02:58:37 I'm gonna play This tape from the mailbag The slasher God damn it After the rain This tape from the mailbag. The slasher. God damn it, Mike. After the rain. The slasher. It's so hot. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:58:58 I'm done. To say goodbye. It's an old joke, but it's always funny. We're going to play the slasher film festival strategies. It's kind of like when you are. Dave's always funny We're gonna play The Slasher Film Festival It's like It's kinda like When you Dave I'm going
Starting point is 02:59:07 I'm getting out here And now It's kinda like Mike's not singing It's kinda like When you're driving And you tell somebody To get in the car
Starting point is 02:59:13 And they gotta open the door And you pull off a little bit Just a little bit Yeah And you just keep doing it Yeah it's just like that It's just as awesome Sean's my bratty brother
Starting point is 02:59:21 I'm a good guy It keeps getting funnier every time you do it. Like that episode of Wonder Years. They took up a good five minute segment with that. It's good. It's funny the whole time. Get it, John Pyle. With me the memory.
Starting point is 02:59:38 You didn't think I was going to do it again, did you? Turn this mic off and I'm going home. Where's the switch? Where's the switch? You gotta turn it off before you leave. Yeah, don't leave it on. It's gonna drain all my power. It's gonna drain all the phantom power out of the house. When my phantom electricity bill comes, it's gonna be through the roof.
Starting point is 02:59:56 Alright, go ahead. What do you got to say, John Pyle? I'm sorry. I apologize. Go ahead. We're gonna play a tape now what is it if you can't do it i'll do it wet leather by the slasher film festival strategy from the mailbag south carolinian project done by a gentleman of the name of Chris Ashley. Do you remember any of those bands from South Carolina from the early 2000s? Nope. You don't remember any?
Starting point is 03:00:40 You know what they say about the early 2000s? If you can remember it, you weren't there. Index for Potential Suicide. Oh, yeah, yeah. I used to love that band. The Disease. I remember. I definitely remember Index for a Potential Suicide.
Starting point is 03:00:54 He was in those bands. Nice. When this tape showed up, there... Now, I... We all know... No! Oh, no!
Starting point is 03:01:04 Fumble! Come on! there now i we all know i am not a fan of the you know uh guy in the ski mask carrying out like a lady who appears to be like knocked out with like wet leather and forced entry as like titles and you don't like that no it always grosses me out. And, you know, when you get this tape, and that's what the cover is, and the tape's called Wet Leather, and, like, you know, the first track is called Forced Entry, you would... And there's a track called The Stalker and Love Lust. You know, it seems kind of gross.
Starting point is 03:01:41 Well, you know, when your hormones are going... When you're Daniel Fronberg's age and everything's all, things are changing every day. No, you know, this weird culture freaks me out. And you'd think you would know exactly what this tape is going to sound like.
Starting point is 03:01:58 But you know what? This tape, I put this on and it sounds like John Carpenter. This is like straight out of like, you know, Escape from New York era John Carpenter music. And it's really fucking good. So I'll look past all that stuff. One thing I really like about this tape on the cassette shell, the sticker, it has like the little, I like the mirror universe, mirrored universe logo. Because, you know, an M and a U is like, you know.
Starting point is 03:02:29 It's like mu. But like it looks, I guess it's like screened on there. There's a maroon label with a black screen. But doesn't it look like they carved? It does look like, yeah. Like the M and the U out of the label. And the first time I saw it, it looked like it cut it out there. And I was like, how the fuck did they do that?
Starting point is 03:02:47 I assume they got a die cut or something like that. Or an exacto knife. As I'm picking at it with my thumb right now, I can tell you that it's screened on there. I'll stop picking at it, John, because you got this tape out of the mailbag. And I'm not going to ruin it for you. Thanks. No problem. All right. So we'll go out of here. of here like i just took that away from you mirrored universe number 21 the slasher film festival strategy
Starting point is 03:03:12 episode number what episode is it 29 episode number 29 there's 29 days in february and a leap year oh thanks dave you know that 28 comes before 29. I did know that. And then 30 comes after 29. But 30 doesn't come before 29, and 28 doesn't come after 29. Slasher Film Festival Strategy wet leather tapes on Mirrored Universe. Thanks to Gabe from Lululearn Tapes for doing the intro. Tabsout.com if you want to donate. Get the jump rope tape and then three other cassettes.
Starting point is 03:03:52 And I guess that's it. Oh, happy America, everyone. Happy birthday, America. Happy birthday, America. Slash your film festival strategy. Here it is. The Thank you. Thank you. The Thank you.

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