Tales from the Stinky Dragon - [Second Wind] Vengeance in Vainia - C02 - Ep 45 - Eddie, Set, Go!

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

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Hey, little stinkers, enjoy this public version of Second Wind, our bonus show where we deep dive into player decisions, world questions, and more from Tales from the Stinky Dragon podcast. Until we figure out the future of the show, any upcoming premium content is going to be free to everyone. So thank you for supporting the show. Hello and welcome to Second Wind, episode 45. I really wish we had wind sound effects, or even fart sounds, I guess. I feel like they're simultaneously at the same time.

Anyway, we're here for you, because I'm sure you have a lot of questions, I'm sure they have a lot of questions. Anyway, we're here for you because I'm sure you have a lot of questions. I'm sure they have a lot of questions. I'm Micah Reisinger, writer, editor, composer of the show, and I'm here with... I'm Chris Demers and I play Barney Farney. And I'm Barbara Dunkelman playing Elga Von Brath or Elga Farney? Question mark? So there's a lot to break down in this episode.

Dude! Yeah. What the heck there was there was a few moments uh and i'm curious what what things i know there's probably obvious things that stood out to you but are any moments that you really enjoyed in this particular battle encounter scenario i don't know if enjoyed is the right word um i was very worried for us in this encounter because i was like i don't think there's any way we because a bunch of us were already low on hp and i don't know how we were going to take eddie hugo avina and also this ferrati who are clearly under some type of enchantment or spell

or i don't know what from uh camp on breath but i was really worried that we would not make it out that's fair so you know i i felt like i don't know i still had a handful of healing spells so i was gonna bring to try and bring people like i had that as a bet but unless i died in which case it wouldn't matter out of luck but my favorite moment just pure, was when I got that bell. The silver bell? The silver bell. I was like, I'm going to eat that bell. I still might eat it.

You might eat it. You should eat it. See what happens. I have a thing that I can eat metal. You have a thing that you can eat metal? Yes. Did you know about this? I don't know what that means. I have an item.

Uh-huh. I have to say a limerick, and then I can eat metal. And I already have it written out. Oh, I do remember that. I got it forever ago, have to say a limerick and then i can eat metal and i already have it written out oh i do remember that i got it forever ago and i wrote a limerick it was in uh in um parish yeah and if i'd had if i'd been if i'd gotten the bell and still had my action i would have eaten the i would have eaten it i mean there's next episode you never know it's so funny like theorizing behind the scenes of the show, because like after episodes, it's like, OK, well, who could this person be and how could they be related? And we knew that, like, there was a lot of crossover based on these visions people were having and like people's backstory.

I was convinced that Elga's mom was going to be Barney's daughter. I thought that was going to be a thing. I thought, like, maybe I was his granddaughter or something like that but the whole twist of uh i guess hugo taking in elga and like probably doing something to her to make her a vampire and keep her under some type of spell or i don't know what happened uh that is a twist i was not expecting yeah the hugo being so bad i was not expecting. That was a good turn. Just because, I don't know, really just like quite literally, I think for Elga, like turned her world upside down. Yeah, completely.

Like a bat. But also I feel like we were going off of like Elga's kind of. Yeah, impression. Impression of characters for the most part yeah uh which she would you know she would assume her family's all good and like have her best interest in mind and be good people because like yeah she's clearly on her some type of thing yeah uh i don't know did you have i mean i i took i saw your face in that moment yeah i took a picture because it was like i i'm still kind of in shock that is a twist i was not anticipating but i don't know i feel

like whenever certain things are kind of like left as a mystery like how we saw marnie and your two sons but you're like where's your daughter where's your daughter and i was like well who could be the daughter like she must be someone we've seen or like is in here somewhere uh i guess it's me um but now i'm confused of like well who's avina and like is that hugo's only daughter and then who's countess von breath and was she under some type of like? And she's not a vampire. She's not. I mean, it was one of the... I had... Is Count Von Brath a vampire?

You can ask him. My whole world is. You can ask him. He had a silver bell, and he was ringing it, and that caught me off guard. Yeah. But yeah, I was... It was something that had like...

Because of the saying it's like it's not the hour or it's not ours yeah it's not the hour or it's not ours I think we never really figured out what they said that rang like a bell and I was like it's not

and that made me think about well possibly Elga being. Like saying she's not ours kind of thing? Yeah. Oh, interesting. I mean, again, that was like, I think it's also, it's not the hour also totally could have played. Are we ever going to figure out what those visions were?

Yeah, I think so. I think you'll start putting things together. And yeah, I mean, I don't ever want to like leave you guys told sure it's it's interesting though because and i was talking to micah about this in the bathroom i feel like uh where we have all our important conversations well it's like the episode before this was like like i feel like the the tension between elga and and Barney got the highest. It was very high, yeah. Well, because Elga wanted to protect her dad and Dracula

and everyone who she considered her family and her people from Barney, who clearly was very angry and, I mean, justifiably so. Yeah, and he wanted to find out how to find and also, like, I don't know. I don't know what to say as far as, like, make his family remember him. Yeah. You know, like, this week on Farney Family Feud. You are not the father, it turns out. And it was one of those things.

I mentioned this in the last second one where, you you know i think barney said like you you just you didn't you say you're sorry but you know talking to draco but you didn't do anything and then and then elga was like well you like just like you you didn't do anything which which too turns out to her is true but that to barn that's like barney's like i think his biggest like regret and he something that has haunted him and like he's just like reacted kind of extremely yeah i think it was really like that in that moment and like it hurt him for sure and and so that's it just like because i think that's his that's his i don't know like everything is like it's it's he's had his whole life and it's kind's kind of culminated of his inability to act because of fear has made him, taken him to his old age.

I think one of my favorite parts on top of all the things that happen, the lore drops and stuff like that. Obviously, those are cool. But I really liked when you finally gave Chip the Fang Frost. Yeah, yeah. That was a good little detail. It's funny. Fun fact about that. A little peek behind the curtain yeah um i've been wanting to give chip the fang frost for a while now um because i didn't really need it and i knew like he really wanted it and at first

like that's why i wanted to take it in the first place yeah of course um but i was thinking about when um carol died i was thinking like oh it'd be a nice moment if like while consoling Chip, she like gave him the Fang Frost. But then Barney swooped in and was like, I made you this wooden thing. And I was like, well, now I'm not going to give Chip something also. Sorry. No, it's okay. I just kind of like held on to it for like another little bit until it felt right. And I was like, okay, this is like a huge moment.

And Elga really needs everyone's help. It's poetic justice that Elgo would give Chip a fang. Yeah. As a gift. I didn't even think about that. But yeah, I just thought it was like, okay, this seems like a good time while they're in the heat of this like really crazy moment.

Yeah, I think it's cool. And you got to use your new axe too, which is I think a good thing. I did. There's some functionality to that axe that i want to try out at some point like the bat barrage and stuff like that there's still so many things to do so many things to try well we have we have some questions yeah well i have a question so we have a question from this never happens how how do you think and you you can save it too if you want to for an episode but how does elga feel like it would that thought like with just that i think all it is it just like i think right now she's probably still in shock because like hanging on a ledge yeah the photo

changed right so like before it used to be i think this picture of her and her sister i think it's what you said yeah um and now all of a sudden it's a different picture so it's like i think she's probably still in like doesn't know what to believe kind of state um because i like if you imagine you've been living this life for so long and then all of a sudden like everything you know is essentially a lie it's like she would probably have a hard time like really under like grasping what's happening so i think probably in the next episode we'll i'm sure dive into that more um but it's you know we'll find out yeah yeah i mean it's literally like the floor fell out from under you planned that on purpose didn't you a realization with a realization irony yeah uh well Yeah. Well, questions. So for everybody, this question is from

Splendy the Tire God, which is an excellent name. What, if any, would your character's theme song be? Benny Hill, Another One Bites the Dust. We talked about this last time,

but we wanted to ask Elga this time. Yeah. I'm blanking on what it's called right now, but it's like shwana-na-na-na-na-na-na-na knees, knees.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some song has a, what's a, Where's Blaine when we need him to sing? I know. right now but it's like Schwinnennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennennenn From Prince Derbat, I think I'm saying that right. Do time constraints slash comedy genre podcast make it harder for you to role play? Or do you still feel like you have the freedom to deeply explore your characters and relationships? That's a good question. Yes. I think to me, the best comedy is done when there's a juxtaposition of other emotions as well. Like when you have the two sides of a coin in that like to me the best comedies also have like really great like sadness and like drama drama and like stuff like that so to me i think it's nice to have that so it feels like the comedy feels even

stronger because you have those moments of like down and up and um like strong emotions like that so i think like every now and then we want to keep it somewhat light because ultimately it is a comedy podcast but i don't think that takes away from having those like other kind of feels yeah yeah i don't know i mean the the the comment i don't know the the improv and the the it doesn't me, in any way, take away from the comedy or the character. I don't know. To me, that's where it comes from. It's the characters and the drama and the story.

It helps also, I think, when the story's intertwined with the characters. I will say it's harder to improv moments of anger or sadness versus comedy. Because comedy is just like, like yeah you make silly little jokes and like could like you know him and ha with each other but the moments of like in the last episode with barney getting really mad at elga i'm like i don't know what to do in this situation like this is a little harder to improv and act um versus just being fun and goofy yeah yeah i. I think it's different also in the moment here because we don't have like, there's no emotional music underscoring us. Like the lighting is as it is, you know, like you don't feel the ambiance all the time. And so it's a different vibe than in the finished product.

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. It's also, I don't know. yeah yeah definitely it's also i don't know i mean it's hard i feel like to to do um to even just do it stuff that is more emotional or dramatic because uh like you there might be a scene between like you and one character or an npc and or but everyone else just is just watching or or you're just watching and you're like how do i uh you're like should i jump in here should i let them have their moment yeah sometimes

it's hard to know so yeah i think i think this group is really good at it and knowing like when to jump in and when to leave it kind of up to that character to figure it out but i also i don't know i think it's i don't think i think it's good to not be afraid of doing the more serious or dramatic or sad stuff. Yeah, I don't think we ever have been. Like, I know the first campaign we did, there was a lot of really good emotion and a lot of, like, really devastating but also really beautiful moments, especially, like, in the final arc there. Which I think, like, it seemed to me our audience loved that and, the show connect with them more on a deeper level rather than it just being like, oh, just a silly little comedy podcast. There's actually deep meaning behind all these things.

Yeah, I completely agree. It's like comedy and jokes and fun is, I think, the initial kind of what can bring people in. But yeah, what makes it resonate. Yeah. And it is emotional depth yeah and that yeah i mean and like hats off to micah for writing such incredible stories and plot lines and characters and twists and turns at every moment that keep us on our toes it really makes the show really well thank you special yeah i i think uh you i want to write

something that i enjoy you know i mean like that i would want to want to write something that I enjoy. You know what I mean? Like that I would want to listen to. And so that's kind of what I bring into this show. And you still let Blaine on it. Well, you know, someone's got to. I'm going to jump in here really quickly just to give some context to some stuff. One, the song you were looking at, Cameron looked up, I believe it is Welcome to the Jungle.

Welcome to the Jungle. I thought it might be. That's the one. That's the one. I just want to throw on top of that like gus micah and i ben earns hello everybody be a person you don't see in front of the camera a lot hi ben uh i'll do a hand puppet for you as you talk please thank you if you grab the sleep puppet that would be great who's talking right now i don't understand god one of the things micah gus and i have talked a lot about is gus as the straight man he like gus has to play basically the straight man right like yeah the storyteller

he throws a little bit of comedy there here and there you guys are so good at your chemistry that he when you guys are serious he knows when to jump in and add some comedy or levity when you when you guys have to take over basically yeah and to have those serious moments and as you've got changed from infinites to uh grotesque you figured out how to jump in and show more of that like serious moments versus comedy yeah for sure yeah that's a good point gus is a mvp for sure he's a great dm uh got a couple questions on the back side of the episode stuff how long does an episode take typically to go from recording to being finished in post-production that's by fluffy manimal well fluffy an excellent question um it

depends we have been recording ahead of schedule a lot but typically from when it records to when it's released can be as close as a week if not shorter at some sometimes but um yeah we have to really crunch and turn it around sometimes and when we're uh we have less time on our hands um so that means like we record um we have go through a rough edit of what like getting rid of like silences or like people like talking over each other or something like that and then adding in some vo adding in some uh music sound effects and then we push it out there into the podcast sphere, and you get to listen into your ear holes.

I mean, you summed it up very quickly. It's a lot of work, and it's a very impressive. It's two seconds of work. That's all it is, two seconds of work. Multiplied by two million. There are a lot of, I mean, making a podcast is, any podcast is a lot of work, but to do something work but uh sound design something

like this with sound design and making npcs and just the amount of the number of original score just talking at once and then uh yeah making music and having to edit out all of our mistakes and things we shouldn't say you guys never make mistakes the amount of time this episode i think was like cut that cut but it is a lot of work and and so i i don't know you know we're recording this i don't it's it's uh march but i don't know when it'll come out but yeah it is a lot of works and and we're hoping to keep continue doing it and and and if you're watching this and you're probably well if you're seeing this yeah then you're probably yeah it takes it's it's an impressive amount of uh yeah post it's a it's a tribe that does it together and i appreciate that um yeah i i really enjoy making it and um i wish i had more

time to put into it you know it's it's hard i'm not gonna say like it's an easy job because i'm doing three things uh every week and um i wish i could put 100 into every single thing but something's gonna give sometimes yeah um does that mean sometimes i can't write as much music or i won't have as much time to dig into the to the nitty-gritty details of writing uh or so on and so forth and so i appreciate when i get to give those things they're due in time um but yeah it's because of you that we get to make stuff like this so i appreciate you guys supporting the show a whole time and um another another question from one of y'all is how do you handle homebrewing a class for example with elga um vampire and we actually

came to find out later as barney barney has his own homebrew class as well which we still don't know do we well kind of i mean i i i know that's something i need to figure out too we saw barney's grave there's stuff about i there's stuff about barney i've still never on this character sheet i've never used yeah okay like just because i don't know we do know he's homebrew though yeah so yeah how do you go about doing that well we we did a couple i did a couple things first i researched the heck out of stuff because um i wanted to make it accessible for you all. Because no matter if it's cool or it has a lot of details, it's really hard in D&D sometimes, like you guys can appreciate this, that there's just a lot you can do. It's even just in combat.

Yeah. And when it comes to your turn, you're like, well, I could do, no, wait, no, I could do that. No, that's more, no, wait, I did that last time. You know, like there's all these like spells and features and every every class has like magic even if they're a non-magical person um and so i think that's that's what it comes down is making it really simple and automatic in a sense and they all seem to make sense too it seems yeah it's gonna have a purpose right like as a vampire having hold person for some it just seems to like make sense of just like yeah you'd think

that a vampire would have that kind of ability yeah so i looked at vampires like stat blocks i looked at some of what other people have made and seen how they've structured around didn't want to give you too many abilities and all at once they came over like oh gosh i think it was like at level one you got something really small level three you got something five seven that kind of stuff um and i think it caps off maybe at seven or so i think so i think this is maybe the last uh thing you got but one of those was like you got to become a bat yep you know bit bit um which i found out david's not here today uh but david sonye who is like assistant editor and helps us post on social does a ton of stuff for stinky dragon yeah um he i guess showed his wife i think it's his wife yeah um like part of that episode and

she thought i was saying butt and so now apparently they go around just going but that'd be it'd be frightening for another reason yeah just a flying uh yeah so that's why it's called stinky dragon there you go that's why like matit has some things too we've talked we've talked about they can like go through it can be apparate basically and go through walls um they can possess people we've seen them try to do that a couple times uh and i wanted them to be like not overpowered so basically i went into dnd beyond because it's typically what we use for character sheets in the show and i built in a homebrew class and just kind of put things that would come up in different levels yeah um you Things you're resistant to, things you're vulnerable to,

all that stuff too. Yeah, exactly. Like Necrotic came up in this episode where Matit was resistant to that and so on. But that's kind of how I made it. You can make it even simpler and just tell the player, like this is what you're going to get at this level or whatever. But that's kind of how we did it in the show.

It's so cool. Yeah, it's fun. I like making stuff that's particularly for that player. know it's also just gives a unique take on dnd like it's still the basics of 5e but like you have just something that makes it a little more interesting yeah yeah i think that's the difference though it's like last campaign was more fantasy high fantasy flair yeah and this campaign is more horror. And so I was thinking, well, they're going to be in a monstery world. Why not give them monstery abilities? We had a lot to choose from.

At some point, we should probably go over all those different options that could give us and what that would have looked like. I'm just thinking about how different the story would have been. One of us could have been a blob. If Barney was a blob. Or Elga. Yeah.

Who didn't have her as a vampire you just sound more like Cliff yeah basically the classes yeah there's a lot of classic monsters wasn't one of them like an alien a Braylian

it's funny and zombie yeah so many I would just i mean i guess also though because it's the so much rooted in character like yeah to take out a character or drastically change a character it would just like oh yeah that's a different story entirely i didn't read the rest of that question this was by uh Mega Bush by the way I don't think I said that Mega Bush thank you for the question Mega Bush one of my players wants to have a cottage

witch class and I'm thinking of combining druid and wizard but I have no idea how to homebrew well yeah that's the difference between homebrewing a class and a race I don't think I said that uh like a species we're talking about homebrewing races and species class would be something different yeah you can you can definitely homebrew a class um and just you don't have to do it all over again just reskin something that's already out there you know that's the name of the game in dnd is you don't have to come up with something from the blank page you can borrow what someone else or borrow a couple things make it your own i hope they'd have like candy uh like fort abilities i was thinking like cottage cheese abilities but yeah oh but you But you said witch, though.

Cottage witch, yeah. Cottage. Oh, I get it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was thinking like. They all came back around. It's like, quickly, instead of a tiny hut, it's like a tiny candy cottage.

I mean, you're right. It probably is more like a candy like Hansel and Gretel sort of situation. Yeah. Cottage core. That reminds me. One thing, I think I can say this. You guys went into the Belfry, which is Dracula's place, right?

Yeah. And you found the painting and then you found the sheet music and then Blaine slash John played the piano. Did you recognize that tune? Has it been in the music before? It's been in the music every single episode. Every episode, yeah.

It is the opening song. In my single episode. Every episode, yeah. It is the opening. That's what I think. In my head, I was like, yeah. I don't know if you guys noticed that. I'll have to listen back to it. But it is, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

That's so funny. Yeah. I'm sure the second people hear it when that happens, they're going to go, yeah. Mind blown. So anyways, thank you all for supporting this show. Thank you for your questions. Thank you for listening.

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