Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 105 | Milwaukee Brewers | Profile & Projection

Episode Date: March 7, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:14 Welcome to another team profile and projection. And today we are doing the Milwaukee Brewers. The beer makers, Jake. Boom, boom, boom, everybody say. Brewers. Boom, boom, boom, boom, everybody say. Brewers. Brewers.
Starting point is 00:00:45 That works. All right. We got it. And that's the Brewers Fight Song this year. Can you brew other things besides beer? Like witches brew? Witches brew? Yeah. Is it witches brew and beer?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Those are the only? Cambocha. You can brew. I think. Yeah, I mean, how many things can you brew? Brew. Oh, you can brew coffee, obviously. Oh, yeah, that's a big mess.
Starting point is 00:01:08 That's a big early mess. Big early mess. Well, we are, if you're watching on YouTube, we are in the studios. Jake is officially here. This is a delayed episode. So I feel like we'll save all that talk. For the next main show. It's delayed.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Delayed by one day. This comes out tomorrow. Okay. The Brewers, Jake. Yes. Do you remember how their season ended last year? Your brewers. I do.
Starting point is 00:01:34 They got, well, you've been saying this because you're a big NBA guy, but they got 76rd last year. Yeah, I have been saying that because I know exactly what that means. So, Kauai. Landner. There you go, NBA talk. They had a game. last year. Kauai Leonard hits a corner three,
Starting point is 00:01:55 bounce it all over the rim. You probably saw that. It was really cool. Really cool pictures came out of it. Yes. Raptors win. They go on to win the NBA title. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:07 76ers are at home saying, oh, if that ball bounces differently, we would have won it all. Yeah. And in the wild card game, everyone remembers now Padre Trent Grisham, Gresham?
Starting point is 00:02:21 I mean, yeah. that's the best drop I've done in a while. Yeah, and it's, yeah. I mean, that was tough. They go on. Baseball game. Rookie, Yelich got hurt, out there in right field, doing his damnedest.
Starting point is 00:02:36 A really fun game. You think Brewers fans say like we would have won it all? I mean, yes, you say that as a fan. In Milwaukee, there are good people up there, so they're saying, well, you know, you never really know with baseball, but that could have been us. But as a Yankee fan,
Starting point is 00:02:50 when they lost to Houston, I was like, I don't think the Yankees would have won the World Series last year. Right, but that's to keep yourself composed. No, they didn't have the pitching. Let's keep yourself composed. I wonder what Brewer's fans honestly feel. They were cheating.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It is kind of weird that they traded him. I know that it makes sense and all that, and we'll go over it. Yeah. But, you know, if you wanted to play the narrative, we had to get that bad memory out of sight. Yeah. And like, Trent Grisham needs a fresh start because he isn't going to hear a boo. Obviously, obviously, that is not why they traded him.
Starting point is 00:03:20 No. But I do think it's fun to just. say it is. It's brutal. I mean, you want to root for him to come back and put that in his hindsight and 10 years from now he's a 10-year brewer. They win the title and they're like, oh, remember that tough start he had, but now it's like, no, he's just going to be hated in Milwaukee forever. Yeah, it's tough. We might have got sympathy. They're nice Midwest folk. I might have got some collapse and stuff. We want to talk about all the guys that the brewer's added. They added a lot of guys. Added a lot of guys and lost a lot of guys. Yeah. Go wherever you want with
Starting point is 00:03:52 They added David Phelps, who's a pitcher with a lot of moxie, not really, I don't know what he's going to do for them, probably bullpen stuff. Thrower. They added your dude, Jed Giorco. Love. Jorko. They added Justin Smoke, who I think has a very interesting career. Interesting career, Justin Smoke. They added Eric Sogard, Ryan Healy, Avicale.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Avicale, Garcia. Actually, I like that move a lot. I like Avicel. Brett Anderson on a one-year contract. Josh Limbloom on a three-year contract And do they add anyone else for you? Omar Omar Navas, Luis Urize, Eric Lauer They added a dude Spanberger
Starting point is 00:04:33 They added a lot of guys that I mean If you're a brewers fan You're well-versed in all this You know more about the brewers than Jake and I We've been running into this where people find our videos on YouTube That are fans of the team and they're like These guys don't know as much as us
Starting point is 00:04:48 Well you're die-hards of your team Right So obviously, but we're really We're just trying to let other people know that don't know anything about the brewers. Like a big part of this episode is going to be me telling people to make sure you know Keston Hayura. Yeah. And I don't know if I pronounce his name right, but that's a dude that needs to be on every baseball fan's radar after what he did last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So anyway, I just jumped all over the place. A little bit. It's good. Who are their big losses? You said they had a lot. Their big losses are the yes men, yes, Moni Grandel, who are Trevor Plouf, reference as possibly the best catcher in baseball. They also lost, excuse me, I was just there.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Mustakis, he got paid by the Reds. He'll stay in division. Eric Tames, who had been with them for a couple years now and a fun story for them. Jordan Lyles, who'd been pitch really well. I'm going to go into Mel Kuyper, no. Gio Gonzalez, he's gone now. Drew Pomerantz, figured something out in the bullpen there,
Starting point is 00:05:44 got paid, paid. Drew POM. Jeremy, Jeffress, gone. He was. a guy that was supposed to be big for them, but he was gone in the middle of the season. Junior Giera pitched some good innings out of the bullpen from them. Jimmy Nelson's gone. Travis Shaw.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Travis Shaw is supposed to be the mayor of Ding Dong City for them. Didn't pan out last year? Terrible year. So, I mean, when you initially see Grandal, Mustakis, and Thames, guys that, I mean, were in the heart of that lineup and, you know, the heart of the city. A big part of the team for a couple years there. and then, you know, and then it's the magic that they pull out of their throwers.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Jordan Liles did some special stuff last year when he was in Mill, only when he's in Milwaukee. They weaponized Drew Pomeran's. Drew Pomeranz gets big paid by the Padre. So the brewers are kind of an interesting team when you look in, because it starts with Yelly, obviously, who he just got paid, paid himself. Congrats. But then from there, you almost have to view the brewers through a different scope Because over the past couple years, you look at them And maybe there's not the other star power you're looking for necessarily
Starting point is 00:06:56 But with the throwers and just a solid lineup, they put it together. They had six players with an OPS plus over 100 last year. Yeah. They lost three of them. Yeah. Half. They lost half. Approximately.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah. Their best players offensively. So they lost Grandal, Thames, and Mustakis. But they bring in Avicale Garcia, who I'm going to assume his OPS was in the eight. That's just off the top of my head. And Omar Narvaez, who had a huge year last year. So if they got Narvaez and he's who he was last year, I mean, they've almost replaced a chunk of Grandal, if not all of it.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Avicel had a 111-O-PS plus last year, but he didn't have an OPS in the 8th, so. Damn. And then who we're doing? Narvaev. Omar Narvae. Narvae. Yeah, no, he had a good year.
Starting point is 00:07:58 His Ops plus was 120. So, yeah, those are good replacements for their losses right there. Kind of like those moves. Yeah, and let's do the lineup, because the pitching's going to be kind of a mess, because it's almost, Hater and then you work backwards a little bit, but we'll get there. The closer is the opener.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Reverse. Everything we've heard was that Lorenzo Kane was hurt last year because he had a really down season, so hopefully he's back. Both emotionally and physically. Yeah, it's just a lot going on. Yeah, it was tough times. Maybe. Yeah, I made up the whole emotional part.
Starting point is 00:08:30 We don't know about that. That was a complete lie. It wasn't a lie. It was a guess. Yelich is an absolute monster. Yeah. Argument to be the best player in the National League, him in belly. You like that it's Gellian belly?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, I do. It's good, right? I do. Baseball needs that. Needs that. This is a dumb shit. And then after that, man, so they get better last year when Yelich gets hurt, which that was wild.
Starting point is 00:08:58 But yeah, man, I mean, Hayura, he's a big part of the story. He was a big time prospect who came up for them and raked last year. He's got some advanced numbers that think he's going to come down to Earth a lot. little bit. We'll see what that looks like. Ryan Braun had a low-key really nice year. And we're looking at fan graphs right now, and they actually don't have them penciled into the starting lineup, but I think he will be. And I mean, I think it turns into an NL thing a little bit and injuries. They don't have Braun? Fan graphs doesn't have Bron in the starting lineup. Right now they have Sogarde, Kane, Yelli, Hayura, Smoke, Avicale, Narvaez, and Orlando, Arcea.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But yeah, I think Braun and Smoke are going to figure it out at first base. Bronc can do some stuff in the outfield. And a guy we haven't mentioned yet, Brock Cole. You're going to see him all over the place. Dude, why don't see FanGrafts have Braun? I mean, it's just like an opening day thing. Who are you going to take out? Smoke?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yes. Okay. I mean, that's an easy yes. Okay, Don. I mean, look at Braun's numbers and look at Smoke's numbers. Right. Right, right. It's like, you know, one's consistently good.
Starting point is 00:10:11 and once consistently average. Not as good. Yeah. So, just like button up fan graphs. But yeah, you almost have to include the bench. Ben Gamble played a lot of games last year. Jed Jorko. Your guy.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Has had a big year in the past. Brock Holtz going to do his thing. And then, yeah, I guess we could sub in Braun for smoke. But you've got MLB guys throughout. There's not a ton of question marks about them. I mean, you kind of know what you. you're going to get. The lineup's good.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Okay. You confused me. You said that Keston Hayura has advanced stats that say he's going to come back down the earth, but... His Babbib was like 400 last year. Oh, okay. Because his exit velocity, his hard it rate is expected... He's really good.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Everything besides his expected sludging, slugging, oh my gosh. Sludging, Wobah. It's all up. The only thing is his, according to baseball, Savant, his outs above average defensively. Bad. Tough.
Starting point is 00:11:08 First year. Yeah. And... I'm going to guess he wasn't a short- second baseman in the minors? Is that a fair guess? I think that's half fair and half not fair. A lot of second baseman are short stops in the minors.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But, yeah, I believe his babbip was around 400, which should come down a little bit. It's just how far does it come down. But he is a really good ball player. And, yeah, I don't know. I mean, who's going to... Nope, second base throughout the minor league. Damn.
Starting point is 00:11:43 So I was half right. Every, he's never played another position. Damn. Keston, get better at second? Get a little flexible. Advanced defensive metrics, half a season. Yeah, you're right. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:11:57 You know? I don't care. Yeah, I don't know. Like, at the same time, when you ignore Yelich, the middle of this lineup doesn't impress you at all, but you can't just take out a team's best player. And then, you know, I mean, if he gets hurt, that happens. If Narvaez, right now they have him slotted in the seventh hole.
Starting point is 00:12:18 If he does what he did last year. Yeah, that's a little Latin flare. Narvaeath. Okay. Because you were very, Narvaez there. Omar Narvaez comes over from Seattle. Yeah, man, I just think you can look at it. There's some depth.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You'd like one more big bat. You and I were dreaming this off season if they went out and somehow got Rendon or someone like that. that they would have that pairing. Yeah. And they don't necessarily have that unless Hira is really the truth. But yeah, I mean, if Lorenzo Cain can bounce back, Hyerrero can do his thing.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And then Avicale is a sneaky good signing for them. He does some pretty good things defensively and offensively. It's every given day the Brewers are going to have a chance to win it. And that's kind of been their team's thing for the past three years now. And then when they need to, they turn it on and they do it. I'm on a deep search right now for something so stupid. Okay. Trying to find what, because Hira was a college dude.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Right. So he really only had one full season in the minors. Right. So I was trying to see what he played it when he was at, um, Irvine? No, uh, Cal. Cal State Fullerton? I can't find it, so. Where was he?
Starting point is 00:13:33 Cal Irvine, yeah. Oh, Irvine, I was right. Nice. I can't find it, so I'm over it. Okay. Are they the Ann Eaters? I don't know. Is that dream that?
Starting point is 00:13:41 He batted 500 in high school. Does he have a cool nickname? Ooh. The Kest, Kest, the Hiora. Damn it. His, his Twitter handle is Kest Daddy, so I like that. Kest Daddy, okay. Kestadi.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Not bad. My man. Oh, you know what I'll do for Keston real quick? Show random video. Let's watch a random video of Kestan. Ninth overall pick, Kestan, Hyura. Am I saying it right? We're probably butchering.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Burr's fans are probably mad at us. Random video of Keston Oh, Homer Bailey Ball Nice take, Keston Awesome It's a really good random thing Electric
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yes, good job Anything you have on the lineup, Jim Braun's in there Bron is hated Because of steroid stuff Dude still producing Yeah He had a once
Starting point is 00:14:37 He hasn't had Braun hasn't had an OPS Plus Under 100 in his career No a season with an OPS plus under 100. He's been above average every single season. Yeah. Last year he had a 116.
Starting point is 00:14:53 He had an 849 OPS. 3.4. Dude, his numbers last year were good. He was ready to put the team on his back and carry him to a World Series, man, without Yelly. Why is Fancripps not having a starting lineup? Just seems dumb on their part. Do we need to know about any minor league players?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Not really. So the Brewers do have a very thinned out. minor league system. I think they're considered like a bottom three minor league system. I think Corey Ray is a young outfielder for them. He's a former first round pick, but I think they're pretty invested in what they have at the major league level. Okay. And know who we haven't talked about, who he's technically injured and he was a part of that trade. Luis Uraeis. Yeah. You know, that's a guy with big potential, and they're going to try him at shortstop because Rcia offensively has kind of proved what he is.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And if Arias can figure it out defensively at shortstop, the guy has a really good hit tool or he's supposed to. And he's, you know, that trade, I'm wondering if that trade is going to be to matter this season. Like the Padres. What's Grisham doing over there? I mean, he's, I think he's going to be there starting center field or right field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And then they got Davies, who, and maybe this will transition us into the pitching a little bit, but Davies pitched, you know, 160 innings last year for the Brewers. He was their number one guy innings pitched, a 355 ERA. They get Lauer back who, you know, he's a couple years in and he could throw innings, and, hey, again, with the Brewers, you kind of have to respect them as what they've been able to do to pitchers. But, yeah, I mean, Arias was supposed to be the big, piece back in that deal. And if he can figure it out at shortstop, I mean, that would be a huge win for them.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And again, add some really, make it a nice one through eight lineup. One through eight, you're not giving them one through nine. Well. Pitcher. The whole. The whole. The whole NL thing. Didn't they extend counsel?
Starting point is 00:17:06 They did extend counsel, Jim. They're giving him the pieces to do what he does. Here's my thing. And here's my take on the bros. Give us the thing in the take. I think they have a really good squad. And I like their lineup. Their pitching confuses me.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And their philosophy of just having throwers. Right. I think we've seen that that works. Yeah. If you want to be an early exit playoff team. Oh, damn. I think the Yankees tried to do it last year. And the same thing
Starting point is 00:17:44 And like Zach Britton came out and said like You need starters to go deep If you want to win in the playoffs Right right right Right So you're talking specifically starting pitching now Mm-hmm Okay
Starting point is 00:17:54 They got bullpen arms Hater's good They got bullpen arms Hater's awesome You know he had like a bad year last year And he finished with the 262 ERA Like there was a while when he was struggling last year Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:18:08 I'm like oh no I mean his strikeout numbers are absolutely insane Yeah, I think you're kind of right with the starting pitchers. At first I thought you were talking about the team as a whole, and that's where baseball becomes really interesting because when you lay out this Brewer's roster and maybe compare it to the Cardinals or the Cubs or someone, you know, these other teams in their division that should be close,
Starting point is 00:18:31 you immediately want to jump to the stars. You want to jump to, you know, a big playoff game, the Cardinals are going to turn to Jack Flaherty, and what are the Brewers going to do? but baseball doesn't work like that. There's going to be nine guys in the lineup. You're going to have multiple pitchers, and that's how the brewers try to beat you.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I mean, it'll be interesting to thing. It's tough to critique them last year. I mean, Yelich got hurt, and he's so much of what they do. I mean, he would have been the MVP. Yeah. I mean, Hauser had a good year. Yeah, Houser.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Brandon Woodruff has really good stuff. It'll be interesting. They both had good years. They both made, I mean, Houser made 38 starts. Woodruff made 22 starts. They had a lot of games pitch, and they both had ERAs under four. For me, as of right now, both those guys like, all right, game one, ALDS, Houser versus Flaherty. It's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's like, how'd the Brewers A get to the AL again? Because that's. Well, Flaherty was also in the AL in that situation. That's crazy. Yeah. It's a pretty wild thing happening. They're all just, just switching names. It's just throwers. I mean, right now, listen to their five rotation guys.
Starting point is 00:19:44 It's Woodruff, Hauser, Brett Anderson, Josh Lindblom, Lynn Blum, over from Japan, former top prospect for the Dodgers. And then Eric Lauer, who they got back in the trade, who, hey, Eric Lauer, I mean, he's going to be 25 this year, and he's thrown basically two complete full season. And maybe the brewer saw something that made him a part of that trade, or they just saw straight innings. But, yeah, if you're a general baseball fan, I mean, there is a chance that you haven't heard of any of those starting pitchers.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Casual baseball fan? Yes. Or like even a diehard Yankees fan. Dyerd-Hared-Rays fan. Dye-hard A-L fan. Right. You may be like, you only know Hauser because he puked on the mound while he pitched. Or Woodruff, he hit the home run in that playoff game, right?
Starting point is 00:20:35 Like, that's my memory. Yes, that's cool. So, yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of flash with the pitchers, but, hey, I mean, they've done the same thing for a couple years now, and it ends up working. Well, it works to get them into a playoffs. Right, but, I mean, I think that's their goal. Just to be in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:20:59 To get into the dance. I guess so. I just don't think they're dancing. Think about the other team you reference, the New York Yankees that have one of the biggest payrolls in the league. You know, their goal is to get in the dance and try to win it, and I think that's the brewer's goal, too, and they're just different ways to skin a cat there.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You know, I mean, look at the Dodgers. The Dodgers don't have a title. Here's what I need. I need the Brewers to make a nice off-season trade. Mid-season. Mid-season trade. To go from dancing to dancing. So you, okay, so that's our brewer's dream world,
Starting point is 00:21:33 is that they're going to be in it. They're the Brewers. They're going to be good. They do. And the division is going to be a battle. Yeah, it's going to be all over. I think they're a good team. I just think that hopefully they can make a nice,
Starting point is 00:21:46 a little sneaky off-season move that puts them from entering the dance to threatening to win the dance contest. Can I give you something not sneaky? Otherwise, they're going to be like me, winter snowball 2011, kicked out of the dance contest, escorted out by the police. Yeah. Yeah, that was a tough look for you. Well, I was tough about it.
Starting point is 00:22:06 This is Lindor's contract year, right? Lindor, Francisco? Yeah. No. He's got the two years, that's why they're trying to trade him? Yeah. I was going to say, if this was his contract year, the Brewers have done the flashy rental before.
Starting point is 00:22:23 They did it with Grinky, they've done it with Cece. Like, something like that would be really cool for this team. And especially, I just don't think the arm is going to be out there they're looking for. I think their game plan with pitching is, A, not rely on guys because if they go out and pay for a big-time pitcher and then that guy gets hurt, they're done. So I think they like having the reusable options. I still want them to pair someone with Yelly
Starting point is 00:22:54 in the middle of that lineup that it was the whole feeling behind the nationals last year is that when Soto and Rendon were coming up, like it was a must watch TV and it was B like if you were the other team you kind of didn't believe you were holding your breath the whole time if Keston takes an itty bitty step forward he's that dude that's paired with Yelly I mean he had a 938 OPS last year at 368 on base friend and smaller sample size I get half a season his rookie year but yeah can he get better absolutely but I think
Starting point is 00:23:29 you also got Yasmani and and no you don't have Yosmani I'm still a big believer in Braun You are a big believer in Braun He's been nothing but good for 10 years I mean a lot of those are steroid impacted Whatever you want to say about those But there's a lot since then That he probably doesn't get credit for
Starting point is 00:23:48 Because you know Once a cheater you know It's just different And I'll even use it for this comparison I mean This playoffs If Hiora opens up one for 10 You're not scared of him at all
Starting point is 00:24:03 No, yeah, of course. So. Oh, you want a threat. We're both saying the same thing. A little bit. You want it offensively. A little bit. But I'm just saying, I mean,
Starting point is 00:24:13 I don't think they have. The Red Sox team, they had that top of the order that was monster. The Nationals, they had Soto and Rendon. And it almost seemed like that was it. And then the other guys stepped up and did their thing around it. You know, the Astros, obviously, blah, blah, blah. Have you heard about them? But give me a dude with Yelly that if you're a person.
Starting point is 00:24:32 that if you're a pitcher, you're saying, I'm trying to get through this inning without giving up a home run. Okay. Because that's what it was with Soto and Rendon. That's what it was with the top of that Red Sox lineup. I mean, that's what it was with the Astros. Dual threat.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Bang, bang. They have some guys on the team that can become that. Okay. But I hear what you're saying. They open up, Jake. Yeah. Against the Cubs. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Cubs, dude, this division is going to be fun. They open up Cubs, Cardinals, Phillies, Reds. But Cubs Cardinals opening up is pretty cool. Open up with it. And the division's going to be brutal. And again, I think that's almost... We need to clarify what you say, because Plouf was confused when you said that.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He thought you meant it was going to be, like, the division was going to be awful. We clarified it. But for new listeners. They're not new. They get poppy. Everyone gets poppy. And I'm not talking about the YouTube sensation.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Go look that stuff up if you're looking at have a weird night. I like drawings with Pappy. I used to watch that when I was young. Drawings with Pappy. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that. No, it was awful. But it was great stuff. Great stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It was like Bob Ross for kids. And the guy's name was Pappy. Pappy's Playhouse or some shit like that. Look into that. You used to watch it before I got on the bus. But that's what I'm trying to get to with Pappy's playhouse is that if we end up looking at this season. Like I've been talking about the NL East and I say, You know, one of those teams is just going to be out because of injuries.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Like, that's just how baseball works. And the pirates. The Brewers, with their depth war players, or however you want to call it, basically outside of Yelly, which again, when he got hurt last year, they still thrived for some reason because baseball geeks figure it out. The Brewers are almost, they're almost more injury-proof than another team. Because, like, if the Cardinals, if Flaherty were to go down, or if the Cubs, if Rizzo Bryant were to go down,
Starting point is 00:26:31 those teams are more effective. Where you look at this Brewer's team, and it's kind of a yelly hair, everything else is like, let's just keep the train going. I don't know, man. Norvias was a beast last year. Narvias was pretty good. The only guy I don't really like is smoke.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I think that's an expectation of thing. Because the dude's been an average, slightly above average player for a decade now. He had one really, really good season that helps out his career averages. Yeah. But I don't know, man I'm not like a true believer in smoke
Starting point is 00:27:05 No, but they don't rely on him I mean, he's bonus points for them I mean, what did they pay him? They gave him $4 million with a team option For five and a half if he does something good What people need to know Is Kesson Hero Okay
Starting point is 00:27:21 Kest Daddy Yeah, he's good man All right I think that ends it We do have the over under here You know what's funny? We haven't been doing the over-under Like when I do when I do this one
Starting point is 00:27:36 I don't remember what I said about The Pirates and the Cubs Right Which all ties in Like someone's gonna dig in and be like You pick the over for every NL Central team Yes And that's gonna be a bad look
Starting point is 00:27:48 But that's how it works Yeah don't take them that seriously punks Take them seriously bet all your money The over under for the Milwaukee Brewers They won 89 games last year is 85 82 and a half
Starting point is 00:28:03 Ooh interesting Are you a Pythagorean guy Because their Pythag was bad last year Yeah I am a Pythag guy Damn I think it's cool I didn't know that about you You didn't know it?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Shit I don't look at it all the time But when I do look at it It's like I treated it as gospel Yeah It was bad last year You're not gonna like this What was it?
Starting point is 00:28:31 So they won How many games the Brewers won last year? 89. They won 89. Their Pythagorean theorem record, 81 and 81. But that's Brewers Baseball, baby. It is.
Starting point is 00:28:46 That's like they're good at, uh... Oh, no, no, no. They're good at, do it. They're good at... They're good at just winning games with their, like, throwers and mixing match and all this shit. They're in every game.
Starting point is 00:28:58 You know what they're going to get? Fuck. by? This is actually a really good take that I'm about to have. Okay. Get ready. Sorry you had to listen to everything else. Everything else was a waste of time.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Wreck. Wild waste of time. The September call-ups new rule, only 28 guys instead of 40, is going to screw them. You keep saying, Yelich went down, but somehow they won because baseball, they used like 20 pitchers and just had fresh arms nonstop in September, and they used that to their advantage. and that's been a strategy of theirs. That's going to change how they use their bullpen and how they use their guys down the stretch
Starting point is 00:29:39 because the last couple years, they've just like, we don't care at your skill level, we're just going to put you out there to get one batter out and then the next guy, fresh arms nonstop. Get out. Okay, so. I think that's what you're saying with the Pythagromb theorem.
Starting point is 00:29:54 They outplayed it because they did a lot. Like the Brewers did a lot to outplay their Pythagromb theorem. So where do you take it? Explain the Pythagra. to people that might not know what it is. I believe it's just tied to their run scored versus runs allowed. Yeah. And it kind of makes up a record off of that.
Starting point is 00:30:11 That's how people judge managers a lot. Like, what could the manager do? And hey. So like this, for this, like what it says to some people who believe in it, like me, counsel did a good job. It says council did a good job. It could also say they got lucky last year. That's also something good hint towards.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And I think the bigger thing, and I think you and I don't tell Trevor, but when Plouf says something, you know, it makes us think about a little more because it's coming from the player's side. But he takes value in the run scored or the plus, you know, the plus 100. He thinks that really defines a team because over those amount of games. And that's kind of what the Pythagorean theorem does. It's actually parentheses run scored to the factor of 1.83. divided by parentheses run scored to the factor of 183
Starting point is 00:31:05 plus parentheses runs allowed to the factor of 183. And this has always been a math pod. Big time math pot. What the fuck does that mean? Yo, you know what? I disagree that Trev likes run scored and stuff like that, but... I think it's over. I'm taking the over.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You got to be able to win close games. So, like, I kind of want a team to just blow everyone out all season. Like, you got to get into the nitty gritty over that. Right. And, like, teams that have, like, a lot of comebacks and, like, fight to the end, usually do well in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, there's, I'm sure there's numbers and geeks that don't like what you're saying. But, I mean, there's, there's extra inning stats and one-run games and stuff that show that there's kind of not control with. But I'm going the over.
Starting point is 00:31:50 The Central's going to be a cat fight all year. The Brewers find a way into it. We wanted to count them out last year when Yelly got hurt, and they refused to do that. And I mean, they were aggression bounce away from holding the World Series trophy. I'll take the over as well. Being nice. And I think I would have paid them for 80 to 85, and it's 82. My guess was 85.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah. So free money. Cool. Cool. We're out. We'll see you later. Enjoy the rest of your life. Enjoy your lives, people.
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