Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 107 | Soto & Flaherty contracts, Yelich Extenstion & Cavan Biggio Interview

Episode Date: March 9, 2020

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Welcome to Talking Baseball. We've got an interview with Kevin Bissio and some headlines around the camps. Let's go. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to Talking Baseball. My name is John Boy. I'm coming to you from the Bronx headquarters of John Boy Media and sitting right next to me. We can touch hands if we want.

Corona. Coronavirus is my co-host, good friend, Jake Storyalli. And we're in the Bronx. And this is exciting. It's our first Monday. I feel like first full week. First Monday. In office.

We have a full slate of shows to record, and I couldn't be more excited about it. How are you doing, Jake? I'm good, man. I'm a New Yorker now. I got Tim's jeans, Yankee shirt. I didn't wear this into the office. I'm sure you've been probably curious of how hard I've been leaning. No, I wore a regular shirt like that.

And I brought this just because A, and I'll be kind of self-conscious for a second. I thought people were going to give me crap I just wore like a normal gray shirt and I thought people were going to be like bro Jake you're in the office just wearing a normal gray shirt and yes I do wear normal clothes You dressed up

But office also really warm And I forgot about that So I was wearing a long sleeve shirt And switched into this instantly Because when I got here this morning Oh did you had to open up the windows No BBD be me and he cranked the wind He got the windows up

But it's almost like Whoever gets here first All 20 windows Yeah My headphones. It was saw in a mode a little bit. Yeah. I have a pair of shorts in my backpack.

And yeah, the temperature I walked in at, it was like, I definitely have to change into the jersey now. Or my day's ruined. You don't even know how bad it. You'll find out when, like summer we're going to be in hell because we can't have an air conditioner in here. But, man, when it was winter and it was 20 degrees outside and they were blasting the heat. All the heaters are off. So imagine if they're on. Yeah.

Jimmy had Jimmyed all those So I'm doing well Yeah doing well You look good I'm actually mad at you Why So you kind of went at the Jakes From State Farm last night

No no I didn't I had sympathy for them Yeah we don't want your sympathy I know Jakes have enough going on Deal with the Jimmy's sprinkles Jimmy rigging things I like that deal with the jimmies Leave the Jakes out of it

I had so much sympathy I do think that there's some Jakes That quit State Farm because of that commercial Thousand percent Right and that's a funny story Like the guy in my building, new building I moved in New York, Jake from State Farm instantly. Yeah. The Jakes have been so poorly represented.

And it's actually sad. Like if I do get popular, I'm going to be one of the faces of the Jakes. And it's a brutal look. You got like Jillenhall. Jillenhall is kind of not accepted by the Jakes. He's really, he's one of the best actors going. I know. So you think the Jakes would have him with welcome arms,

but he's kind of not. All right, anyway. Who do you have after Jillenhall, by the way? Jake from Twilight. I mean, and that's not even his, it's Jacob. No, there's other Jakes. You'd be surprised, man. It's shocking.

Like, Jake Plummer was a pretty, Mets, NFL quarterback, and he's high on the list of Jays. Jacob, Jacoby. Okay, anyway, I had sympathy for the Jakes. I wasn't coming out. after them at all. I want to...

You don't need sympathy. I need someone to write an article about all the names that have been ruined by corporate America. Like Alexa, you can't name a girl Alexa now. Your life's ruined. Jake got ruined, you know? Everything's cyclical, I think. Yeah, everything is.

Like, Alexa will have a huge comeback in 15 years. Maybe, but then she's going to deal with some old... So Jake Jalenall is the most famous Jake. Yeah, Jake Paul. According to Rancor.com famous list. Oh, Jake Paul's probably up there. Yeah, he's definitely the leader in the clubhouse right now. Yeah, it's tough.

But that's more of a Jake vibe, if we're being honest. That is more of a Jake vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jake LaMotta? I mean, that's going back. People don't even know who that is. I know, 97 years old. That's number two ranked famous Jake.

I'm telling you that Jake's have been missed. Jake from State Farm is, I just typed in Jake, and I think we're, Jake from State Farm is fourth on the list. Jake Locker? Who's Jake Cannavale? Jake Locker was a bust. Cannavalles and a musician So yeah

The jakes are here And I'm excited in New York Commute went decently Nice I got here late I was mad out of myself We're getting here late Stuff happens in New York Well when you

I mean you rely on public transportation Yeah You're gonna get fucked But that's actually that is Half the reason why I was late Because they're doing construction At my bus stop So we have to walk to the next stop

Just brutal Dude Walk to the next stop We have a stop. Just don't do construction at it, you know? Yeah. Tough. Anyway, this episode of Talking Baseball is brought to you by our dear friends.

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Seven o'clock. Okay. So there you are. Those are our most recent patrons. We appreciate them very much. Thank you. We do have an interview with Cabin Bigeo. Second Baseman.

And I want to clarify something for people that watch this on YouTube. I have a clarification after your clarification. A couple clarifications. We're running hot with clarifications. I've been separating the interview and the episode on YouTube. So if you were watching on YouTube, the Kavisw. and Bigio interview will be an entirely separate video. But if you're listening on the podcast app, it will come up on this episode.

So on the audio, they are combined. On YouTube, they're separate. We've been doing that and people have been confused. So I'm just clarifying. Okay. My clarification, is it Bigio or Bigio? Because I said Bigio. I thought you said Bigio.

See, now I don't know. Because I always said Bigio. Doing it Bigio. Yeah. Because that's what I'm thinking of. During the interview, I believe you say Begio, and then I, you know how scared I get to say people's names in front of them. I got so scared. And I, because I did the intro for the card game, I think.

And I think I just went super fast with like Bishio. Bige. So on his, Cavins doesn't have the pronunciation. His dad's has Bigeio. Bigeo. Vigio. Bigeo. It's Bigio, right?

Dijio. Do you have a take on this, BPD? I lean Bigio. I think that's right. All right. Great stuff. Okay. So if we said it wrong, either way, tweet it Kevin and Twitter at Doing It Biggio.

You'll hear us mention that. But, yeah, tweet at him, Instagram at him. He was a really cool dude. He was cool. Still is. Nah, he could have changed after the interview. The interview changed him a little bit, you think? All right.

We have some topics to go over that are hot in baseball. Hot topics. Juan Soto and Jack Flaherty, two young studs. Good players. Good players. We know half of them. Both declined. This is an interesting process.

So they're pre-arbitration. So they're just team-controlled. So teams can just straight up say, this is your race. This is what we're paying for you. And all of the teams do it different ways. You know, they value different things. They put different monetary values on different things. So they both offered Juan Soto and Flaherty,

what they're going to, like this is what you're making next year. Right. Congrats. You got bumped up a little bit. Yep. Both of them said, nah, not happening. No way. I need more.

I don't get how it fully works. So then the team goes back and gives them more. I mean, I think this is a newer thing. I'll be honest, I'm not super familiar with this. I'm assuming what this is is, I mean, these guys clearly being superstars and the best players on their teams. So they're going to them and being like, hey, you got a. do something. Yeah, so Flaherty said that he denies it out of principle.

So a lot of rookies just accept it. But Flaherty was like, out of principle just because the system's so stupid. I am saying no to this. I think the team can be like, I don't care. I tried to research this on the bus right here. And I was really troubling to, I couldn't find exactly what works. But I think the team sometimes in good faith goes and finds a little bit more. So check this out.

Flerty got a 10K bonus for finishing fourth in the Sion. Sure. But he gets a 10K penalty for not accepting the terms of the contract that they, so it washed out. Stuff. So anyway, they settled. Soto is making $629,000 this upcoming season. And Flaherty, I think he's making around the same. For some reason, I don't have it typed out here.

They're both making like less than $2 million. Slightly over the minimum of what they should be making. And it's just a reminder that the system is. stupid right now. Systems bizarre. It truly bizarre that two of the best players in the league make towards the minimum. And yeah, I mean, it's go check out our CBA episode with Plouf. We touched upon some of this stuff. And I think we always assume that our listeners are intense baseball people that kind of know

the pre-arb and some of the salary stuff. But if you saw Juan Soto last playoffs and then you found out that he makes, you know, bottom 10th percentile of what people make in the league. He was the star of the World Series. Yes. I mean, I mean, not like, not the, um, Rendon, Strasperer, I mean, obviously they all, I'm not saying Rendon won the World Series then,

but as far as like watching a game and I would ask my mom who doesn't know the Nationals, like, who do you think the stars? She's like, well, that guy's on TV a lot. Right. Making a lot of money of that. What is, what is the solution, though? Because at the same time, well, and, We're not going to actually fully deep dive into the CBA solution.

But, I mean, these guys are also the one percenters. Lant Soto and Jack Flaherty are the outliers of everyone else. And I thought there was something in place for, like, hey, there, because like Gio or Schella earned himself an extra million dollars last year because he performed so well in a specific amount of years and he was so vital to a team. And there's some equation that says, like, you know what, you just, you earned more money.

Right. You're going to get to the next. I forget what it is, but there needs to be something in place. Yeah. Like, hey, that dude's a mainstay on your roster, just helped you win the World Series. Yeah. Like, Flaherty was the best, but... Flaherty was the best pitcher at the second half when we finish that thought.

So he deserves it, but Soda, like, so much deserves it. Yeah. I guess something with Cy Young and MVP votes, but then that becomes a whole ordeal, too, because I know that's a nightmare for you because you get the bad beat riders and stuff. Oh, yeah. Don't let the beat riders dictate players money. That's fucked. We'll shoot this one to ploof and get him hot because Flaherty's his boy, too.

So he'll have a fire take. Fire take. So ugly. I hate him. What else do you have, Jim? Well, sad news. Trey Mancini has left Orioles camp set to undergo medical procedure unrelated to baseball. I mean, everyone has come to the same guess, and I'm not even going to voice it.

You can take your own guess. There's kind of no reason to speculate. We know it's personal. We know it's not a baseball injury. We know that everyone is feeling really sympathetic and sending their best wishes and prayers and however they deal with that, his way. It is sad.

Just kind of a sad reminder that life exists and these guys are humans. He tweeted. Did you see his tweet? Yeah. He said, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude to everyone for their kind sentiments and well wishes.

It further drives home the fact that I am surrounded by the best family, friends, teammates, and fans that I could ever ask for. and then there was a follow-up tweet that said, once there is more clarity, I will be sure to keep everyone updated over the next few days. I look forward to a healthy recovery and being back on the field soon. I mean, who knows?

He's going to miss a lot of time, it seems like. Yeah, your head naturally jumps to the worst things possible when that amount of information is shared and that's it. I mean, we'll have to see, like he said, you know, He's got to make sure he knows what's going on. And when he does, if him and his family's comfortable sharing what's going on, but yeah, crazy, sad news. And, I mean, it's kind of tough.

We went to Orioles camp and, you know, it's easy to take your jabs at the Orioles because they're in a tough spot as a franchise right now. But, I mean, he's kind of the guy you go to see with the Orioles. And it's a real bummer, and you just have to wish him the best. and whatever it is. Hopefully, you know, he can be back sooner than later. But, yeah, scary, scary sad news of the weekend. Yeah, get better, Trey Mancini. Done.

One of the Orioles worth watching. Yeah. So, need him to get better. Please. All right. We'll pivot. Pivot. To a fun story.

Okay. I like those. Jose Bautista. Joey Bats, your guy. Joey Bats. Trying to become Joey Arms. Joey Bats. He kind of like.

I just type Joey Bats in the baseball. football reference. I didn't, he didn't retire. No one wanted him as a position player anymore. He's 38 years old or 9 years old. And he wants to return as a pitcher. Arms fresh. Not a lot of miles.

Someone was quoted saying that he sits 92. He's got some, as my dude Ryan Yarborough said, he's got the funk. He's always had a weird, when he was playing third base, he had a weird throw over first. He's got a little funk in that arm. October 19th, 1980. So, yeah, he's 39. I'm rooting for this very hardcore.

Of course. Because if you're not hardcore, and if you live hardcore, School of Rock people, go watch a movie. Let's rock. Let's rock. Let's rock. I mean, A, it would be awesome

because this is a guy who's hit 50 home runs in a season. And yeah, dude, you just know I'm on, I love the versatile guys, and I get, one of the things I get louder about is that, yes, Otani is awesome, and he's a special dude, but I think these two-way guys have been cut off. Yes. Well, we agree. I think guys throughout the years could have been two-way players. There was a hundred years of just not allowed.

Yeah, he just said no. Like, even Babe Ruth, they made him stop pitching. Yeah, I have a strong belief he would have ate himself off the mound. You're on your eat himself off the mountain theory there. But yeah, man, I'm all for this because this is the future of baseball. And I think baseball was kind of idiots for the past 100 years. So what's... Because a lot of times in sports, the best athletes are the best athletes.

He's going to the Olympics and he's going to play for the DR. And he's not going to pitch, though. He's going to play first base and hit. But yeah, he wants to come back and pitch. Oh, this... So he's got a slider. Passing says he has... a nice slider.

So this baseball, MLB trade rumors, says that he's not going to be Joey bats, he's going to become Joey Sliders. Ooh, Joey Sliders, which was... No, Joey Arms is better. Joey Arm.

Joey throws. Joey toss. Joey Pelota. Joey Pilota. Is that your Spanish broadcaster? I haven't seen that one on you a lot. No, that was... Did you sneeze in the middle of?

He was from Chile. Oh. Yes. Not a ton of Chilean baseball players yet Too much beach Yeah I mean what are you going to do Football

Yeah I mean this I don't know From 2010 Let's let me You want some stats Jim Sure From 2010 to 2015 Six seasons

Joey Bassett 227 home runs Yeah so are you thinking this is kind of like a concoction thing Like he went to the DR and he was like You know Got concocted up and he was like, wait, this actually may have helped. Well, this might go against your Joey Bats was on future steroids.

I think he took the wrong steroids. I think he went to the D.R. He took the pitcher steroids. He took the pitcher steroids. Instead of hitter. He's like, fuck, got to make best use of this. They're in me now. I'll put this in the Joey Bats maybe didn't take future steroids. And if you haven't heard that, John Boy theory, well, we'll get that to you another time.

It's been documented. It's been documented. But I don't know. Like, this gives something that, like, this dude. just loves baseball so much. He made his money. He got coin. He hit a bunch of homers. And now here we are, you know, 54 homers in 2010. In 2020, we're talking about him being a relief pitcher hoping to sneak. And you know he's part of him is just doing this so he could sneak at bats, right? I will become a pitcher, but only in the National League. I mean, he's totally trying to sneak

at bats. And only a starting pitcher. And I think that's obvious. But yeah, it's really cool. I mean, here's the thing. If 39-year-old Jose Pidista can do it, that will open the door for a lot of people. He's not doing it. I mean, they're going to send him to the double A. The Mets exist. Ah, fuck. Yeah.

They might have them just throw BP to Tebow. What's the Mets checklist? Can you pitch in a bullpen? Hopefully. The Mets are. Can you play bad defense? Absolutely. Yeah, but no, the Mets are going to, he's going to get sent to like double A somewhere,

and he's going to be like, fuck this. I don't want to do this. But I like the idea of the Mets because they have T-Boh just because it makes the money in the minor league system, you know? Sure. So I like the idea. Well, Andy's figuring it out. Oh, he'll get there. But I like the idea of Joey Bats coming down and just throwing bullpen sessions to T-bo in front of crowds.

Like, that's what the Mets sell now. It's good content. I go. I'd go to one as well. Mets are light years ahead of everyone. So I don't know. For some reason, I believe in Joey Bats. I'm going to do this.

He loves baseball, two-pitch reliever. He's kind of insane, apparently. I don't know. The chat, I like looking at the chat. Sean McLaughlin in the Patreon-only chat. He says Joey Twirls. Joey Twirls, that ain't bad. Because that can be good and bad.

Yeah. I like that. Joey Twirls. Leave a... I was going to ask for a review. I don't want a review right now. Only review this podcast. If you genuinely want to review this podcast.

Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. We're not going to fucking hound you every episode. Opening day, we'll do a sucker one, but yeah. One sucker begging for reviews a month, and that's all. I was listening to some a podcast, man. They do it every episode. Get over yourself.

Joey Bats. If people want to leave a five-star review, they'll leave them. Dude, his 2010, 2011 have to be up there on like two of the best back-to-back seasons. Shit. Noah Dubois in the chat. Joey Gass. Joey Gass. I mean, that's so good.

That's great. That's good. Joey heat? I mean, yeah. No, gas. There's a lot of different things. Joey gas is good. If he was a bowler?

You've been called Joey Gas too. Joey Rolls. That's only if he became bowler, though. It's Jimmy Rollins. Okay. Next up. Cespitus's his little brother. Yalkus.

Does I pronounce it? Yelkus? It's got to be. Yuenis. Yelis and Yelkes. That's a tough. That's the tough. I don't know.

You picture like the American sitcom where the dad and the son have a similar name and the mom yells something and they both say, what? Like D.D. Regorius, his brother and his dad are both nicknamed Didi. Right. That's tough. Big Dedy, little Dedy, biggest. That can make things confusing.

Yueness and Yelka's, I guess, I mean, there's a big twist in the middle. You can't listen to the first half when mom's calling your name. You just got to listen for that middle noise. Okay. D.D. That was the end noise. Oh, no. All right.

Cespitas Family Barbecue? Yes. We've called them live on the show before, but... Yeah. I mean, did they know that they're Yoelkis fans as well? Because they're not just Cesbittus fans. They're the family. Yeah.

So this is huge for them. Do we make the call? I'm a little scared. You want to try and call them? Let's give him a call. All right. We'll give them. I tried to FaceTime.

It was Friday when you and I were in the studio. I tried to FaceTime Jake because he, A, just had his surgery. and there's something else I want to tell him, but... I think I'm still hooked up to the board. So as long as BBD has the Bluetooth up, we can give him a call. He had not said yes. This has become one of my favorite parts of the show.

All right. Now you can tell you. Hello. Hey, we're recording talking baseball. Now we came into a burning question. Did you guys know Yo-Elchus existed? and that you have to be fans of him as well? Okay.

Because it's Cesbitus family barbecue. Yeah, I mean, it's the entire thing. It's the Avengers universe. Okay. Are there any other Cespituses that we need to know about, that you know about? There are none that I need to know about right now, but I would not have to decide if in decades there are more. Yeah.

Oh, wow. You're going to have to track their kids and stuff. You have to leave so there Wow That's huge Hey if you're in New York Just come to our office Is he calling from a shower right now

Are you showering? I'm currently on You're on the train Cool Thanks man appreciate it Of course All right see you So they knew

And he knows that he has a lineage To root for Damn These guys are in deep Deep with that one Anyway Yo Alcus is is 20 years old, I believe.

And Yuenus is 34. So, I mean. How old Jellicus? I zoned out for that part. I think he's 20. 20? Yeah. Holy smokes. Yeah, he's young.

But I, 22? 25. Okay. That's different. Nine years apart. You're about to call them out. And you've got that same thing with your brother. No.

What I was going to call out was that I was going to try and figure out when Yonis. left. Sure. But it was actually older because it's Cuba. I thought it was DR. He leaves at 16. And I was like, did he just, they knew he was about to leave to go get drafted? And they were like, let's have another baseball player.

This money was awesome. Time out. I've got Yoelkus at 22 years old. All right. So now where Yelka's Sestbitt is somewhere between 20 and 25 years old. My joke that I was going to make, which I kind of just said, was that. Yonis left at 16. Right.

And they got a nice signing bonus. And the family was like, let's do that. I can. Yeah. If we're just a birthing machine of baseball players. So then he had a brother 16 years younger than him, and now he's going to get the signing boss. But it doesn't make sense because they're not in the DR.

They're in Cuba. Yeah. But, you know, it was almost there. It almost happened. Good luck, you, Elkus. I mean, the Mets will just pick him up. No, the Mets are done with Cespitas. Think so, yeah.

That was a whole thing. It'd be cool if he does the same exact route, like goes to the A's, then the Tigers and the Red Sox, then the Mets. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. You think it would be cool as well? Kind of. I like... Yankees.

All right. How about this? Yo, Elkis, Yankees? There's something there, right? Did we not talk about Yelich's extension? I think BPD said we talked about it on the TPP for the Brewers. Yeah, that makes sense. Which is still on this podcast, but we didn't talk about on the main episode.

It's on this podcast, but not here. But good for Yelch got locked up. Good for the Brewers locking them up. Yeah, I think the internet reacted a little bit, There's this weird, I guess it's a weird damned if you do, damned if you don't. Well, I guess when I say that I'm thinking about Mookie and when I'm thinking about Mookie, I'm thinking about Boston fans. But there's almost this stigma now that if you're one of the big dudes and you don't go to

free agency, you're the bad guy, except for Mookie. But that's Boston fans. Mookie go to free agency, get paid paid. I think what gets missed here a little bit is like, and when Harper and Machado hit free agency, they were 26. Yelly's 28 right now. So he got his giant payday that I think it's, what is it maximum eight years in 215 or something like that? He got the bag and good for him.

I mean, he was supposed to be this talented kind of gangly dude on the Marlins. And then he's developed into this MVP all-world player. And he got paid paid. Yeah, I like it. So that's good. They also locked up Freddie Peralta. your guy for a little bit you love freddie p i didn't look into that deal what is that deal i think it's just like a arbitration type thing freddie peralta's a name that you think he's an

old guy because there's been a lot of pitchers named peralta but he's he's actually young are serious yes because i do i think of him as an older dude no freddie peralta on the brewers is 23 but there's been a bunch of peralta there's been and a bunch of freddies and i think willie peralta used to be on the brewers. Is Freddie and Peralta popular names? I don't think, well, it depends how you label. I think Freddie could be labeled as a popular name. I mean, Peralta, there's Wandi Peralta,

Willie Peralta, David Peralta, and Freddie, all right in the league right now. Joel Peralta and Johnny Peralta both recently left. So what throws it off is Willie Peralta was a pitcher for the brewers. Okay. So that's definitely what's skewing the skewing the sco. scale on this. But Freddie Proulton, no, he's just a young guy who basically had his arbitration bought out. He's 24 years old. Okay, they bought out his arbitration. Good. That's like the new,

most popular thing to do. You did it. You did it. We don't really have much else. Like, a lot of stuff's going on in spring. Is Chris Davis still the best spring training player in history? Well, that's what I've got for you. And I had my moment of genius, as I always have. Jake's moment of genius. I thought I'd bring up some stats for you. Okay. Some spring training stats. Yeah.

Can you play that this doesn't matter at all sound drop? Play that this doesn't matter at all sound drop. Nothing I say should be important to anyone. Oh, yeah. Nothing I say should be important to anyone. Oh my God. It's pretty good. Did you know you were hitting that one?

Wow. Wow, that's a huge moment. What a confident. I almost hit the wrong one. I knew it was one of two. Okay. Not bad. Not bad.

500. Jimmy, so I'll give you some stuff you're going to like first. I'll give you some of the weird shit. Okay. So there are currently 24 guys in spring training with batting averages of 1,000. 24? 24. What's the minimum at bat?

One? Yeah. So we've got... Who's got the most of that? There's two guys... Excuse me. There's three guys that are three for three. That's awesome.

And then we've got... How many guys are two for two? I think one. That's the most three? Yes. Okay. There's no four-for-fors? No, no four-for-fors.

But I don't know. So what are those guys thinking? Nothing. Give me some at-bats. Yeah. I mean, those are- I figured it out, coach. I mean, those are guys that no one cares about.

I haven't made an out yet. Yeah. And so the guy that needs to be highlighted of this crew who you're going to like is Jason Krizan, Krizan. He's 31. He's a lifetime minor leaguer. He's three-for-three with two homers. Cryzan?

Yeah, K-R-I-Z-A-N. K-R-I-C-R-I-C-R-I-C-R-I-C-R-I-C-R-A-N. Yeah, go a couple ways with that. He has two homers? Yeah. It's a lifetime minor leaguer from 22 to age 30. He's three-for-3 with two home runs this spring. Damn, he's from Plufer-Goville High School.

Flugerville. Flugerville High School in Texas. That's the name of it. Yes. Yes. Lugarville. So, I don't know. I just thought you'd like that a little bit.

Do you know who's leading, again, spring training, very important. You know who's leading in home runs? Crats. No. Power hitting shortstop, Orlando Arcia. Oh, yeah. Five home runs this spring. Hell yeah.

So he's figured it out. Problem solved. He's tied with Cody Thomas, who looks like he's 25 and on the Dodgers. Not familiar. Dude, I think that the Padres are, like, winning a lot of it. I don't pay attention to, wins and losses in spring training at all. And so when it always blows my mind when people do, blows my mind when people pay attention

to the score of the spring training game. Right. Like the Yankees were up three or down three and then they tied it and three three. And the announcers were like, you got to think the manager's happy that they came back and tied it right away. Like, no, they don't. No one cares. Oh, dude.

You know what? Why do you announcers try to trick people into thinking that matters? Like nobody cares about that. We might have to make this a segment on the show. But I've told you my uncle Rick goes to the pirate spring training games. and he keeps the score and stuff. Dude, when he goes to the games, he writes, like a review of the game. Oh, my God.

Can I read this? Okay, so this is Jake's Uncle Rick's review. Uncle Rick's review. Uncle Rick's review segment. Of the Pirates game on March 1st. What a game today. Yeah. I know spring training stats mean nothing,

but it was glorious to see us plate seven runs in the first two innings and then hang on for a third. 13 to 9 victory. Say? Most of the runs were given up by Yaxil Rios and Luis Escobar, neither of whom is likely to make the opening day roster. The defense was solid for the second day in a row. One error by Cruz at shortstop.

You know what? Like, this is actually a great service. Pirates fans go follow Jake's Uncle Rick. Yeah. He just says it doesn't matter, but like, Tucker started a nifty double play and looked very solid at shortstop. He's got it. I wanted to think your uncle was being a little crazy.

No. This is a great service for Pirates. Locked in. Go follow Uncle Rick on Facebook. I might read his Facebook post and I'd be the most thing too. He's talking about experimenting with a foreman. I'll feel it's really good stuff. So yeah, if you need your Pirates update.

I think I found another weird Jimmy thing that you'll like. So wait, wait, wait. The Padres, I think, are, like, I was reading in the Padre's subreddit. They're like, what does this really mean? Oh, fuck, I forget what it was. Because I think they, like, are winning a lot of games. Like, it means nothing, everyone. Juan Soto and Randy as Randy Arazarena.

Era Zerana. And Joey Vado are leading the league in walks, which I was going to make fun of because it's spring training. But Joey Votto doesn't swing in spring training. Like he says that he just wants to see the ball as best he can. So he's doing a good job. He's doing a great job of that. Wait, wait, wait.

The baseball reference for Randy's last name is Arrozahrena. Arroserina. Arrozarina. He's a good name. He's from Cuba as well. Let's see. Salvador Perez has four hit by pitches. That's pretty brutal.

Oh, damn. That sucks. As a catcher. Coming off injury, too. He's got to be pissed off. Quit hitting him. Yeah, stop hitting Salvador Perez. Come on about it.

That blows. How many games has he played? Five? Twelve games. He's playing a lot. Whoa. I guess because of the injury, he really wants to get into the swing of things. Oh, this is going to be a mean one. Do you want most errors committed? Hold on. What's going on with the Royals backup catcher situation? Salvi's playing like every game.

Is it a battle? Because that sucks for them because they're getting less innings. I mean, it feels like one of those when the veteran player asks to play a lot. Oh, yeah, because he's coming back from injury. He probably wants to get back his reps in. He's been out for a full year. And you know what? I got to be honest with you, I'm not super tuned into the Royals backup catcher situation.

That's bullshit. So if you're a Royals fan tweeted us, let us know what's going on there. That's bullshit. You know it. So what's the most errors? This is mean. Yeah, I'm not going to do it.

It's a young kid. If it was an old guy, I would do it just because that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Cool. Do you need any pitching stats?

Is most innings pitched in spring training, like the worst news? No, I guess because pitchers are building up their pitch count. Who is it? Let's see. Is it Hap? Hap's got to be close, right? Dakota Hudson, 12.1 innings and a blowout. Josh Lindblum, second, 10 innings.

Get it, Lin-Bloom. Trying to impress his new team. Yeah, he's coming from overseas. Lizardo, 13 strikeouts and 8.1 innings. Yeah, spring training stats don't matter at all. No. But you can take Nuggett. But baseball is still happening.

You can take Nuggett. from him. Just his Sheffield having a nice spring, Jim. He added a new pitch. We could call Jordan from Suspins family. No, we can't double down. All right, we're going to throw it to our interview with Cabin Bizio. But before we do that, Jake, I have a very important question. We are here, myself, John Boy, and Blue J's stud, Kevin Bigio. How you doing, man?

Good, man. Happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming out, dude. We just told you we're having a blast on this trip, and we're glad we got to hook up with you. Den Eden? Am I saying that right? You are saying it right. I wasn't.

I wasn't for about a week to get to this point. But how's spring going, man? How you doing? It's good, man. It's good to be back. Good to be back playing baseball again. You know, first couple weeks of spring training, just getting back at it. Getting back into the swing of things, no pun intended.

But yeah, I mean, it's just good to be back with the guys and getting back in the Biders' box on the field, getting used to wearing the spikes again. So, you know, body's feeling good and looking forward for the rest of spring. We started this trip 10 days ago, and we've been doing a lot of driving. It's still February, and you have a month left to spring training. Are you like, get me to the season? Spring training is long. I mean, it's all about for the starting pitchers to build themselves up.

I mean, I think if you ask the majority of position players in any locker room, they would say they probably need about two weeks of it, and they're ready to go. But, you know, it is what it is. It's a, you kind of learn how to space out your workload. You know, maybe play like three innings, one game, then the next day, play five, then a couple off days and three again, and then eventually work your way up to nine innings and get ready for the season.

But, yeah, it's a long spring, but, you know, I enjoy it. Is there a little more of a spark around here? Because, I mean, obviously the baby Jays, I mean, you guys had a bunch of dudes come up. And I mean, this off season was a real nice off season. I mean, Ryu comes over, Roark. I'm sure. Shremaker.

I'm missing other dudes. But, I mean, you guys come up. Free agents come in. And, I mean, this has to be exciting, right? Yeah, there's definitely a ton more buzz around here than last year in the year before that. I mean, you know, those 2015, 2016, Blue Jays teams, you know, with Donaldson, Bautista, too low. I mean, those teams were a lot of fun to watch. And, you know, we took a dip for the past couple of times.

years but uh but yeah like you said we got a lot of young guys in that locker room made a lot of good acquisitions this this uh off season and yeah i mean we're all excited um i think we have a lot of potential for this year um i think we can come up and surprise a lot of guys but uh but yeah i think the future's bright here in toronto when you're looking around when you get you get picked up by the blue jays you're going through the system and you see vladdie junior and you see bachette are you like wait hold on we're all in the same team Is this the Blue Jays Analytics Department? Yeah, dude.

So, like, I was playing with Vlad, I was playing with Bo for the first time, actually here in the Florida State League. And I talked to our head of development field coordinator, Gil Kim. And I'm like, dude, what do we? Like, we just drafted Casey Clemens, who he's in my own leads with us. And we had Gruselonics, nephew, and then we ended up drafting conine too. I'm like, dude, what are we doing? I'm like, dude, what are we doing? Like, is this something that's in the, yeah?

You know, is this in your equation or something? So Toronto bloodlines. Yeah, and he's like, he was like, honestly, like, no. Like, we just draft all you guys because we like the players that you are. And I was just like, I was calling BS on it. There's no way, man. You look at any other organization, they don't have it. But, I mean, the people and the players that we are take us to where we are and who we've become today.

So, I mean, it's fun and it's exciting. I mean, it's got to be kind of a weird, like, bond, though. Like, you guys grew up in clubhouses and around this, like, your baseball lifers. I mean, the three of you, is there like a little bit of like a different connection there or is it all the same? I would think that there was more of an immediate connection when we first met each other. I think our involvement with our dads in the game was a little bit different. Like me, my dad retired when I was 12, so it was around a good bit. But Bo, his dad retired when he was four.

So we really didn't get to experience it as much. I mean, his dad was a hitting coach for the Rockies and he was around it more then. But it's just unique to kind of share our same experiences and, the way we had it a different way. But yeah, I think initially it was a good initial, you know, bond there. Did you guys have a moment yet? And we'll start getting into silly stuff because that's what we do. But did you have a moment yet? Because we, Trevor Plouf, who was running around with us, we were talking about when he was on the twins and looking around and you're up and you see the guys you came up with. Have you guys had a moment yet? And maybe it was after the season. But, you know, you look around and you see Vlad and you see Flo Bichette and you see Guerrille Jr.

And you just see all these young guys that I'm sure you saw a little bit on the way. And it's like, damn, we're here because, I mean, it's Major League Baseball. Like nothing's promised you have to get there and Major League Baseball is different. Was there a moment after the season or maybe during a game where you looked around and you're like, wait, this is the high A team I played with two years ago. And now we're playing at Yankee Stadium or wherever you're playing. Yeah, I mean, getting called up, I mean, going in the locker room and seeing a guy like Vladimir or Guerrero, a guy I played with for three years.

And then Gurriel, a guy also played with two years. And it's just, it's more, it's comforting going in that locker room because there's a lot of those guys you don't really know that you've never really played with besides in the spring training. And just going to that locker, there's that comfort. And I think that moment for me was when Bo got called up at the deadline. So we're playing in Kansas City and, you know, I look over, I see Vlad at 3rd. I see Beau at short.

And I'm like, we've been doing this for years. Like, finally, like, we're here. And now it's time for us to really start going. know. Do you ever tell Bo like chill out with some of those big swings? Because I mean some of his big ones are like dude, he gets after it. No, I mean like that's something him and his dad have always talked about like just swing as hard as you can. And sometimes he's like, hey, if you're struggling, like try and swing and fall down. And I'm like, I can't even. He does that. Yeah, he does do it. And I'm like, dude, if I'm swinging falling down, then I have no chance to hit the ball. So I mean,

he's a special hitter. He's a special athlete and, you know, only guys like him can do. that. How's Vladdy's grandma's cooking? It's good. It's really good. I like, every day she has it in the Blue Jay's locker room, and it's mainly for the Latins, and they bring it for whoever the visiting team is, they bring them to the other side, too.

So. You got to sneak some? No, yeah, yeah. I like to tell them I'm, like, part Latin, just so I can get some of the, you know, it's goat, it's chicken, it's pork, and then, you know, good rice, too. Do you think the Blue Jay's, like, in-house cook is like, fuck. She's taking my job Oh man

I mean pretty much Yeah Pretty much What um We've we've got some fun facts on you But I'll open it up to you first What uh Outside of baseball

What should we know about Cavend BGO Um You know obviously I grew up in Houston Um My dad Big Ad Doorsman You may not know Um so I grew up

Deer hunting in South Texas Um So that's a big passion That we share with me My brother and my dad We got a ranch in South Texas that we like to go to. So that's probably a big thing for me. Okay.

I heard McDonald's is also on the list there. McDonald's? Yeah. You're doing like McDonald's. Yeah. You never know. Like late August, get out of a game. Maybe the post game spread wasn't very good.

You're playing some video games after the game. You know, Uber Eats and McDonald's is right there. Yeah. You know, instead of push out of button. Is your order dollar menu stuff? Yeah. Same. Yeah.

We were told your order. We were giving a little preview. Yeah. I was like, that's my same order. That's where we live, man. McChicken, McDouble. And then a small fry. There you go.

That's all you need. It's kind of wild. You're like, this costs four bucks. It fills me up. Yeah. Terrible for you, but whatever. But whatever. But whatever.

Whatever. You're a pro athlete. You can eat whatever you want. We can't eat McDonald's. We do. I do. This is the result. Thanks Roosevelt for sending us.

Yeah, man. That's, that's, what's hunting? So I grew up in Connecticut. I'm soft. I'll be honest with you. Oh, yeah. I'm soft as hell. What, if you go on a hunting trip, I mean, because there's a lot of, I don't want to say downtime, but there's a lot of downtime.

Yeah. Is that, like, is that, I guess, relating to sports? Is that therapeutic? Or is that, like, bonding time? Is that when the real conversations happen? Or what's that like for you? Yeah. So when I go hunting, when I got into bow hunting, you're really close and you can't talk at all.

So I go by myself. And, you know, it's just nice to get out there. it's quiet. It's kind of weird just to be so close to an animal that you're trying to kill and they have no idea you're there. But if you make like a little flick of a noise, they look up right at you. So, I mean, it's challenging and I think it's competitive in a sense where you're trying to compete with not trying to move or make any noises or try not to smell bad so they can smell you or whatever. You suck at hunting. Yeah, the RV times would not help with my hunting abilities.

I smell you right away. Man, that's tough. But, yeah, it's nice to get away from, like, the city, away from the sounds and everything, and just go out and enjoy a weekend or something like that. What are you doing with the meat? Are you cooking it and preparing it yourself, eating it? Well, we skin it, and then we get all the meat and stuff, and we have so much deer meat at my house that we're just from hunting over the years,

and my mom isn't a huge fan of it, so we usually give it away to someone who needs it. All right, there you go. We like to give it to our janitors at our high school, and they give it out amongst their neighbors and stuff. Nice. So it's not going to waste. So, yeah, that's good. Yeah.

Speaking of your parents, everyone knows your dad, obviously. What's something you get from your mom? Like a trait or something that you bring to your game or your everyday life that comes from her. I like to say that everything I do on the field and my work ethic. And not that my mom's not, she works her butt off. But I think when it comes to competitiveness, I'm mostly like my dad. And then pretty much everything off the field is. is kind of on my mom's side.

Okay. You know, my dad, he just wears same pair of jeans all weekend, you know, maybe two button downs, and he's good to go. But, you know, me and my mom, we kind of share more of the same style and likes and interests off the field. Are you a big haircut guy? I got my first show cut. Andy Fates.

We were at Twinskins. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm... Show him the hard part. I'm a hard part. We told Andy Fade to do whatever he wanted to him. Are you a big haircut guy? Yeah, I actually just got one.

Yeah, yeah, I just got one. So when I'm at home in Houston, I don't really have a guy that really fades me up very well. But when I come here, I like to get, I went with a Mohawk this time. It's kind of like a subtle hawk is what I call. It's like, oh, what do you got there? Oh, it's like a Mohawk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I like the fades.

Who's the hair crew on Toronto? Like, who, if you're getting cuts, who's rolling with you? Let's see. We actually have a lot of bald guys on our team this year. Believe it or not. But I don't know. Danny Jansen's got to go. good one. He's got like the curly

jufro and then he just shaves it into a really long, weird looking Mohawk that I dig. So, yeah, he's one of the big guys with it. You got to get Bichette to put his hair on the line for something that. He won't touch that. You out home or him or something like that. He won't touch that. He won't touch that. It gets down to like his letters and he's

like sketched out about getting a little trim. So I'm like, dude, come on. So back to baseball. You see we're all over the board here. I'll say this, you've got a good eye. You're an on-based guy. And I think baseball has obviously developed so much over the past five, ten years, however you want to measure it,

that you coming up now is probably a good thing because people value that so much. Was that something that was ingrained in you early, or did that just kind of as your game developed, that's what you did? Or how did that all come about? I think it was a mix of both. I think I've kind of gained the knowledge of the strike zone from being so young and watching a lot of baseball, I watched pretty much every Astro game ever

until I really got to that college and stuff after my dad stopped playing. But I think my dad kind of instilled to me in my work and in my practice is like, hey, make sure you're practicing on pitches to hit that you're going to hit in the game. Don't just swing out of ball just to say you hit it. So I think that kind of just translated into the games

and then it's just been developing ever since. And so I can't really tell you one specific time or when I've noticed where it's really taking the next step. But I just think slowly over time, I was just noticing that I was just drawing a lot more walks than everybody else. I don't think Vladdy's dad was giving him the same. I see you guys a little different. He was like swing at anything. You have to hit everything, even if it bounces. What's the craziest thing you've seen Vlad Jr. do on the field or off the field?

I'll open it up. That home run versus Britain last year for Zach Brin was. nuts. Honestly, it might be something he did in the minor leagues. Yeah. I mean, I think the Vladie that everyone saw last year, he's just scratching the surface of what he can do. I mean, I've seen some pretty crazy things. You know, he hit a walk off home run one time in double A. And he literally, he didn't tell me, but he was like, hey, he's going to throw me a slider. I'm going to hit it opposite feel for a walkoff. And I was like,

all right, like, cool. So I threw him a first-bitch slider, and I was like, here he comes, he's going to throw another one. And sure enough, Homer. And then he hit a hotel one time, which is pretty crazy. Yeah. But the craziest thing about him is that he literally barrels every single ball. Yeah. I mean, playing with him and here, double-A, triple-A,

he just somehow finds a way to put a barrel on the ball, and it's 110 off the bat every single time. So he's a special hitter, man. That at Bat versus Chapman last year was awesome. We're Yankees fans. So we do. Yeah, that's my memory goes. But that at Bat versus Chapman was so cool.

It was a battle. And even the fans in Toronto, like, everyone was like on this top step. And then the fans gave him a round of applause. He struck out or grounded out. He had grounded out. He had to double play or something. Yeah, yeah. But it was still standing ovation because it was like, that's good baseball.

Yeah. That was awesome. It was must watch. It was must watch. Who's a guy in the Blue Jays that you think everyone around baseball should know or should talk more about? Lord is guerrille. Yeah. For sure.

That kid is, I mean, he's right up there with Vlad and Bo. I mean, he is a special hitter. He's a special athlete. and I think him moving to the outfield last year really helped him kind of get comfortable and really just kind of exhale and go out there and go play. You know, his hitting capability. I mean, he could win an MVP, I think. I mean, I think he's that good.

And you look at his brother in Houston, I mean, I think he can just take it to the next level. You got a lot of new pitchers in camp. Have you faced any in the scrimmages or I'm blanking on the time? Live BP? B.B. I don't think I really have. I think I got some of the minor leaguers when I was down there. Okay.

You guys got some big arms coming up there, too. Yeah, we got a lot of talent pitching-wise in that locker room that people don't really realize. I mean, we had a lot of rookie starters come up last year that were really solid, but, I mean, the acquisitions that we made in the off season kind of push those guys down or maybe to the bullpen or AAA or whatnot. But I think we got a lot of depth there at pitching. I think a guy like Trent Thornton, who pitched pretty much all year, he's going to take a step or a guy like Jacob Wagaspak who went like seven innings or eight

endings like one hit against the Dodgers I mean he's got a lot of talent fun name too swagisbag swagisbach is what I call oh you make a big players we can nickname I can work with that yeah we got a Nate Pearson who throws 105 with feel with four pitches so I mean was telling us about him today that's who you know from the athletic yeah dude from the athletic was telling us about him today and he's He was like, yeah, he sits, $99,100. He's a big human being who throws the ball very hard. It's crazy.

I've never been labeled as either of those. What do you got? I'm going to move it to Toronto. Okay. Might have some Toronto fans listen. Have you taken to the city? A lot of guys love going there on road trips. So it's your home for six months now.

Is there a restaurant you found? Are you still looking for suggestions? I'm still looking for suggestions, but I found a couple spots that are pretty good. A couple local. Thanks. I think my favorite is Cactus Club. Okay. I played in Vancouver in the minor leagues in short season, and they had them over there,

and it's probably one of my favorite. It's just good atmosphere, good food. A lot of guys like to go there. You know, anywhere on King Street is pretty good. Pretty popular street with a bunch of, you know, bars, restaurants, a lot of cool places to go. Stats-wise, you're young, and I think, you know, as baseball keeps going, the analytics keep changing. What I always like to ask players, because I'm, for my personal curiosity, is what stats do you look at for preparation and projection?

And then at the end of the season or at the end of a series, what are your, like, results at that? So are like, are you looking at batting average? About myself? About yourself? Or is that completely out of the equation? Now, is it more OPS, OPS plus? What do you check out to see, to reflect? I think to evaluate, like, the type of hitter I am, I think OPS is pretty important to me just because, you know, I take a lot of walks.

my average isn't always going to be the highest. But if you look at my OPS, if I'm driving the ball and I'm getting on base, then I think I did a good year. I had a good year. But when I'm going through the course of the season, I'm like, I've got to boost my OPS. I've got to boost my OPS. The one thing I look at is batting average, which is weird enough.

Because I feel like if my batting average is in a good place, everything else kind of falls into place. So, I mean, if my batting average is high, then I feel like I'm putting the barrel on the ball, I'm driving the ball, I'm getting on base, you know, I'm doing everything that I have to do. What about prepping for a lot? pitcher. Is there a certain pitcher? Like, we've been with Trevor Plouffe, and he's been telling

a soft-throwing lefties, he would just, like, lick his lips when he saw soft-throwing lefty. Is there a type of pitcher you enjoy hitting against the most? I like facing lefties more often than righties. I don't know why. It depends on the lefty. Like, guy like Chapman, no, like no one really wants to face that. Or, like, maybe a, you know, submarine lefty that you never really face. But I like competing against lefties. I don't know whether it's because the changeups eliminated for the most part. I mean, there's some lefties that like to challenge you with some fastball changeups. But just overall, my whole career through the minor leagues, I've always hit lefties a little bit better than righties.

But when I go prepare for a pitcher, I like to go into the video room. I like to see how he challenges left-handed hitters, fastball, curveball, change-up, what they all look like from, you know, from the monitor and whatnot. So, I mean, just getting ready and just watching those guys and see what they do to similar hitters like myself. before game. That's good. Yeah, that's awesome. I think we're going to play our card game in a second that we'll post somewhere.

But I was going to kick it to you. If you've got any questions or anything you want to plug or any shout-outs here, I mean, this is you. How long does it take you guys do the voiceover on the videos? It's my guy. It all depends. How many times you've got to watch the video to figure out? So it's like the writing process and the editing.

So I had to watch both broadcasts. So I take the home and the away I sink it up, and then I'll go through it slow on watching both of them, because sometimes someone will show one, the home will show something good while the away is showing something bad. And I just scrub through it slow. It takes probably 40 minutes on average. Some suck. Some take like an hour. Yeah.

That's bullshit. He's a little nuts. If I have to read lips, it takes a while. Yeah. So if you're ever in an ejection, just really a nunts. Yeah. All right. Or just DM me like, this is what I said.

This is what I said, quote for quote. And this is what he said. Yeah. Perfect. There was one gentleman we met this offseason. I won't say a name, but he... Oh, a player. Jimmy and him linked up, and they looked at each other,

and they talked about it, and the player said something mildly inappropriate. Well, first he said, how'd you know what I said? I read your lips, man. And then he said, but you forgot this part. I said, pussy boy at the end. And I was like, well, dude, I don't know. I don't know that. I've never heard that said before,

so I couldn't pick up on that one. Not a phrase you hear a lot in everyday conversations. Now I know if that player gets in another shit talking, so he'll be like, all right, he probably dropped another pussy boy here. We'll look out for that. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for sitting down with us.

This that wraps up the podcast portion, and then we're going to play a little card game for a little video. That's right with you. Yeah, let's do it. And that was our interview with Cabin Bigio. That was good. It was nice. Actually, that was a fun one.

I thought he started a little like, what is this? I don't know. I think he loosened up perfectly. Yeah. he got into it. He came in. We also forget that now we're older than athletes. Oh, we're old, yeah. Yeah, we're older than athletes. So, but yeah, he, he knew some of your stuff. He, he loosened up. Cool guy. And it was honest answers. He never gave like a PR answer. Like, I asked him about the

young dudes and he was like Lord of Scuriel. Like that dude could win MVP. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, tweet in Instagram at cabin and be like, whoa. Oh, my God. I didn't know your dad was that. Yeah, some mom question. That was good. Yeah. All right, cool.

And that ends this episode of talking. Oh, I have to do a better. Okay. Ready? All right. I think that wraps it up here. We're done for the day. We'll be back tomorrow with another mini episode.

Thank you guys for checking those out every day. And then we have Ploof's episode coming up whenever that comes out. Thursdays. Ploof. Ploo. Actually, T.J. Zook has given up the most home runs. Five home runs in four point one inning. Zooks?

That's tough, Zook. My name's Zooks, and I never missed a game. It's tough. See ya. Garrett Cole is tied for second, though, so. Wind. Good news for Zook.