Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 134 | Trevor's Tidbits: The Three-City Plan

Episode Date: April 22, 2020

Plouffe lends some context to the AZ-FL-TX plan floating around for the 2020 MLB season, along with some new information in the negotiations with the Players' Association and the minor leagues. Learn ...more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to Talking Baseball. We've got some Trev tidbits. We've got a three city plan and with some other stuff. And we're going to talk all about it. Here we go. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to Talking Baseball. It's April 21st, a fine Tuesday in the wonderful spring weather.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Still doing the quarantine. Still doing nothing much. I got Trev. I got Jake with me, BBD in the bottom of the screen. Jake. playing through immense back pain, suffering through it, going strong. Trev coming off a wild 420. Still a little cloudy but debuted a brand new show today.
Starting point is 00:00:57 It's going through just so exciting. Sequence and this episode of Talking Baseball is brought to you by Adam Bartel, Nick Butler, Frank, Osman, Nick, Patrick, Anthony Dyke, John Bowen, John Rice, Peter, Nate Bonifont, Drew Riddle, and Reed Ferguson. And some of those may be duplicates, because I always lose track of the last guy that I said. But thank you to our, those are our most recent Patreon supporters. We really appreciate it, especially in these no baseball, baseball company times. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Anyway, how are you guys doing? Welcome to the show. I'm doing great. This is, I'm having so much fun just watching Jake in pain. I don't know what that says about me as a person, but I'm having a lot of fun with it. I can see that you're physically just not able to move the way you want to. And for some reason, it's bringing me joy. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:59 No, that's, that's fine. And like I said right before the start of the show, I think that sounds like your last scouting report from Philadelphia. Can't move. But I can't move. It's like, whoa, voice just went froggy on me. But I would like to congratulate my friend Trevor on his new show sequence dropping today on John Boy Media YouTube. Good stuff. Stephen Sousa, Jr. with powerful beard coming in hot.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Good stuff, man. Yeah, he's fun. He's always been a guy that likes to talk hitting. We worked with the same hitting coach, Rob Van Skoyek. who is now the hitting coach with the Dodgers. So a lot of the stuff that he talks about I've been through and kind of understand it. But yeah, great first guess.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We got a couple of other guys already in the backlog that will be releasing. You said tomorrow and the next day and all this. Then eventually it'll go to Tuesday and Thursday release schedule. Yes. So I'm excited about it. It's definitely a little weird or scary or I don't know, man. Like, you put something out there and you don't know if people are going to like it or not.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Well, the word that describes you, Trev, is shodendfrude. It's German. Okay. Shadenfride is when you get, you experience joy via other people's suffering. I have that right now. Yeah. You're a big case of shoddenfrude. I've also like to point out one thing that I've been doing lately.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. So I've always had these hats. and like they've always I've always thought the crown was a little too high on them yeah and it just like looked weird and then I realized that if I just kind of like do like the
Starting point is 00:03:49 like the crease in the middle like I'm kind of like into this vibe right now I don't know if you guys see it's almost like a Japanese ballplayers like Ben how much is Shirley brewing and co-paying you you wear like you have like all their hats I mean they just they've given me a lot of gear and I like them they're good quality
Starting point is 00:04:09 hats great beer obviously but like the that this thing is new for me and I'm kind of like really digging it wow were you a straight brim back in your playing days just like an easy kind of normal bends but it doesn't work with these hats so that's how I was always trying to do it and then I just said you know what I'm doing the little league Japanese all-star team bend on my hat and we'll see how it looks and boom I got a new look it's nice If a hat has too high of a front part, like you were referencing from the start, that's an instant no fly zone for me because I already have the peanut head. So if that hat goes out that much, it's just a multiplier.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So yeah, maybe I'll try your tidbit because I do like you've got some nice, like parallel lines run in there. That's nice. Thank you. Yeah, I don't really know. I just did it one day and then boom. So fashion icon, a new show. I think things are going well for me. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Now I'm green. This is what I looked like last night. Ooh. Ooh. All right. So we have a song from Bubak, fan of the program and the Jombo Media family for Trev's tidbits. And one of your tidbits, Trev, you told me yesterday you had it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And then it came out today. So I just want to have your back to our audience. you did have this before it was public. So Treb tidbits still going strong, although if they don't want to believe us, that's up to them. But here we go. Here's the new strap-in.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Here's the Bubak Trev's tidbits intro song. All right. So what do you got, Trev? I'm kind of into it. I was a punk rocker back in the day. I shared with you guys my high school picture. Oh, yeah. A lot of gel.
Starting point is 00:06:35 A lot of gel dyed my hair black. I told my mom it was three days. die, it wasn't to come out. It wasn't. It was permanent die. No big deal. It's kind of a rebel. Anyways, first tidbit of the day. Do I just go? Are you going to put that little bell thing again?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Did you like the bell? I don't know. That wasn't it. That was not the bell. There you think. I like that. I think that's a good thing for me. All right, I mean, look, this came out. The article about it. We got the article up. We said we were done talking about plans for, the MLB season because they don't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:07:16 But I did hear this one. Well, let me explain it first. And I'll tell you what my tidbit is a little different than what's out there. So the newest concept that's out there is a three city or three state league. And they're thinking about doing it California, Texas, and Florida. and they're grouping divisions up that way we'll be having some teams in California and they're talking about doing it
Starting point is 00:07:47 where in California is it BBD you got the article up what's the what's the stadium in California I have it as Florida Arizona Texas oh that's right it's Arizona because they're all dome they're all covered that's right so Diamondbacks the new Globe Life Park is that what it's called in Texas? Yeah it's like the difference in the name is So slight, we talked about it here.
Starting point is 00:08:11 It's like Globe Life Ballpark instead of at our stadium or something like that. It's like very. Yeah. So Diamondback Stadium, Texas Rangers new stadium. And then the Trap and Miami, right? That's what they're talking about. Mm-hmm. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:29 In Florida. So this is another possibility. Everyone's clamoring for baseball to be back. When I, someone reached out to me with this information on Sunday, we talked. about it. And what they said was that this is the actual proposal that Manfred prefers. And not to go too crazy into it, but apparently there's just benefits with a TD deal for owners somehow with doing it regionally like this. So you always got to follow the money in instances like this. And apparently that's what's happening. Manfred prefers the three
Starting point is 00:09:06 city proposal. There's something going on with the money in the TV that they're able to recruit more of their TV deal money because of it. And that's kind of what's out there right now. I don't think a lot of more details are out there. I talk to guys around the league. Everyone's still saying the same
Starting point is 00:09:24 damn thing. They want to play. They don't know what's going to happen. We don't really know. Commissioner Rob Manfred, they asked him about this and a bunch of stuff. And Manfred said, we don't have a plan, we have a lot of ideas, which is a really good quote by Manfred. And like, that's what is the most important thing to remember.
Starting point is 00:09:46 We did say we were sick of hearing all of these. So like, I'm not going to debate this plan because I don't care enough anymore. But this makes more sense to me than the Arizona plan. Ten teams in three different places still feels to me like if they do this, it wouldn't be a normal season. And it would be like you do, you know, the 10 teams, three divisions, and they each play. It's like a mix of the Arizona and the Cactus League, because it seems like travel is going to be not involved.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So you play, you split it up 10 teams each and you play and then maybe there's one wild card and then there's a four-team playoffs. I don't know how it would go, but whatever. Makes more sense to me than all in Arizona. At this point. I know that I was very optimistic, and I still am optimistic. Oh, no. The flutter.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Are you fluttering back down? I know. But I'm optimistic that baseball is going to happen. I'm not changing that view. I really do. But, man, like, what's it going to look like? Like, what are we doing here? Like, every time I get optimistic about it, I start to think, like, what the, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Like, the logistics and all of these plans are insane. Yeah, and I think that's where, yeah, it's interesting. Sure, we got three cities involved. And like Trevor mentioned more money, which money talks, so talk MoBucks. But for me, I still don't see the logistics of like how it works. Because I'm thinking in my head, you know, say we fast forward to this world where, you know, we can play baseball, whatever setup it is. Let's say the best we can do is three games a day in a stadium. You know, you do it, you kind of do it normally.
Starting point is 00:11:36 You do the 1 p.m. game. You do a 4 p.m. game. You do a night game. It's not the most ridiculous thing that could happen, you know, ground screw cycles through, whatever. You're still like short teams and games there. So if we're starting to go this Dome Stadium route, you know, are we bringing in Dallas and Houston?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Do you bring in Tampa and Miami? Because I think that starts making more sense in my head. Because what if I mean, what if you do, section you've got five three games a day at each stadium you've got your 15 games um to me like again the the games start making sense there and and like jimmy kind of harped on and again i i don't think we we necessarily get this sense in normalcy we want to get to a point where it feels like the season matters and it feels like it won't be a talk show debate like will this championship it matter. Because if you're doing like that original Cactus League proposal, I think it's not.
Starting point is 00:12:39 If you mix up the divisions for a year and go willy-nilly, people aren't going to accept that. If you can somehow do this where, I don't know, say we've got the five domes and then you play, you know, your teams that are there, you get your series out of the way with them and then you switch it up and you go to the other domes or something. Maybe there's something there. I obviously don't know the logistics, and as always, we're banking on some medical stuff. But I guess I am starting to like the idea of the dome plan, especially when Trevor Williams was on with us the other day. And he's like, yeah, woke up, it was 90 degrees. And we're in April in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:13:15 So I'm starting to feel like the dome plan has something to do it. It's how many and where. Yeah, so the article, again, the CBS one that broke this, it still says, like minor league stadiums as well. Like they're not, they're not limited to just the dome, but they're building hubs around the dome. So you could still do more than three games a day.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Is what it says here. Well, you can add more stadiums. I'm just curious. Okay, say we, say we, leagues like, let's go with this. Where are they putting everybody up? Like, usually when you go to Dallas. I mean, I've said at some shitty hotels
Starting point is 00:13:55 and some nice hotels in Dallas. So the twins used to put us up at the six flags. Marriott. So you got a bunch of kids running up and down the damn halls, ringing the elevator all damn night and day. But then I also stayed at the four seasons there. And it's beautiful and it feels like you're on vacation. So like are they going to put guys up entire families and their entire staff up at the four season? They're going to be at the Marriott Six Flags? I think that's going to be a big part of this. Like guys aren't going to want to go stay. at the Ramada Inn or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Like they're going to want to be treated like they're used to being treated. That remains the biggest obstacle. So, I mean, any of these, the huge grand assault is like, would the players do this? But I think logistically, we're getting closer to something. I still don't think it's going to resemble a real season where the World Series winner will be treated the same. But as far as like being able to get some sort of exhibition league in place, this seems like a little better. But again, like, it's just an idea. We'll get another one next week, and we'll talk about that one, too.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Well, let's just go. This is not a tidbit, but... What's that? Go ahead, Jake. Are hotels, like, open? What's going on with hotels right now? Well, I think Brian Hoax still stuck at one in Tampa. I think hotels are open, and a lot of them they're repurposing to get homeless people
Starting point is 00:15:20 off the streets. Okay. Quentin... I mean, I wonder if baseball could work out a deal kind of easier, with, you know, Marriott or whoever it is to be like, hey, we'll run out the whole hotel. Yeah. So, Quentin Huberner in the chat, Patreon members said that this plan covers three time zones, and that may help with the TV deal stuff, which is true.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Exactly. Like you can start a game at 10 in the morning East Coast and then also at 8 p.m. Arizona time. And you have staggered start times and across. So that's probably, that's a good point. So we're talking about all this and logistically, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The money is always the key thing here. So this came out yesterday. This is not something that I found out.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I just read it on MLB trade rumors. And they're talking about the agreements that are the so-called agreement that the players and MLB had as far as the salary. We know we gave them a stipend for the first two months. And then they were basically saying, we're going to prorate your salary based on the amount of games played. And that was the agreement. Then we found out that they're going to be playing for a fraction of that.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And that was a tidbit that I had. But the article that came out yesterday is now saying there's some shady, weird language in that first deal that they had. And basically, it says if there's no fans in attendance, that they still need to discuss in good faith the economic feasibility of playing games in the absence of spectators are at appropriate substitute neutral sites. Tony Clark came out yesterday and said, we already had this in writing. We're going to get paid based on the amount of games that gets played. Doesn't matter if there's fans or not.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And then MLB came out yesterday and said, that's not the case. Look at this writing in our agreement. And it looks like there's a little wiggle room in that. So this is just another. Tony and the Union got God again. I don't know if they got got or if they knew that this was already going to come. It seems a lot like if that's true, if Tony Clark was like, no, no, no, no, no, this isn't what we signed.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And the MLB says, actually check the fine print. Seems like that seems like a reoccurring situation for Tony Clark in the union that he actually doesn't understand the loopholes and all that. Again, this is coming from, I don't know how true all of what we just said is, but he doesn't have a good reputation. as the head of the union. It's interesting because I feel like a lot of times there has been a little bit of misguidedness and maybe a little bit of, like you said, kind of like language that maybe has gotten past,
Starting point is 00:18:16 the players association, which is unacceptable. That should never have. Yeah, that's unacceptable. If the MLB comes back and says actually check the fine print and then now the union has to sit with like, oh, fuck, we didn't realize, what that meant. That's unacceptable from the union. Yes. And this is so in saying all this, we're talking about how like we were so excited that these two came to an agreement on a deal so
Starting point is 00:18:42 quickly. Well, clearly that's not exactly the case. And now I have another tidbit that I got. And this is a nice little segue. Segway Trev they call me. They're trying to push the CBA back a full year because of this. Cool. So we had it running this year. We had it running through next year. Then we're going to have to figure it all out. What I'm hearing is they're trying to push that date back a year. Problem is.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Problem is. I don't think the players want that. It's not, it's not, it hasn't been such a great deal for the players. Yeah, I know. It's one more. It's an extra year of shitty terms. So I'm, I, I don't know what to do. I don't know if it's going to, if they're,
Starting point is 00:19:31 if the players want to do this or if they don't want to do this, it seems to me like kind of depends on how this year goes. If there's no money and they're like, hey, like, let's just get back to a sense of normalcy before we have to go in and completely redo this agreement. But all that good faith that we thought like the union and the, and MLB had like garnered and like kind of coping with this season together, I don't think it's there. You know, maybe we were duped in that a little bit where we thought that it was all
Starting point is 00:19:57 roses and sunshine. It's clearly not. There's been a lot of disagreement. There's going to be even more disagreement when all this comes out. Like I said, now we're getting this information. They just want to continue the CBA, which happens in negotiations. They can extend it. And to me, it kind of makes sense because of all this going on now.
Starting point is 00:20:15 They have to tackle all this instead of really focusing on the CBA. But again, I don't know if that's something the players want. Trev, is Tony Clark Long for this role? Like, is does the, how does the, how does that work? maybe not Tony Clark, but maybe him and I'm sure it's not just him that makes all these decisions. I'm sure he has a whole group of people. But like when did he become in charge of the union? How does that work?
Starting point is 00:20:44 And clearly the CBA that is currently being signed is bad for the players. And the players like you just said don't like it. So messed up there. With the whole Astros thing, I mean, we went to spring training and team to team. they were having their union meetings and everyone had questions and everyone had concerns and everyone wanted to get answers from Tony and the leaders of the union. How does the leadership work? And do you think that there's any contingency that's like we need new people at the helm of this?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah, there's a lot of guys that think that. You know, I was there when Tony got voted in. It was pretty much unanimous. I mean, it was unanimous in the vote, but there was some guys that, you know, raised questions saying, you know, he's not a lawyer. He's a former player. And if you look across the different leagues that put former players in charge of their unions, it doesn't usually work out. So that was a big thing. But he was Michael Wiener's right-hand man.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And when we had him, when we had Mike and he was a people of Donald, everything was good so Mike suggested Tony Tony had been around Mike a ton things were going really good for everybody at that point so it seemed like it was just the logical next step having Tony and he can command a room I don't know if you've ever seen him talk
Starting point is 00:22:16 or been around him he's a big guy he can command the room he's very very educated very smart I just think you got to surround yourself with even smarter people you don't ever want to be the smartest person in the room. Like, I don't want to be the smartest person in the room. Like, I need no stuff that I don't know. If I'm leading, if I'm a leader, I need other people around me, checks and balances, make sure I don't fuck up. And I think that's kind of what the union needs to do is we need to hire people. Hire more people because if you're looking on the owner's side, they employ hundreds of people.
Starting point is 00:22:49 We employ 15 people, maybe, not even 15 people. Like, there needs to be more people helping. So I think The next time that we have to Maybe vote on this and see Who's gonna be at the helm I think it's not gonna be as easy as it was last time Like I said last time it was unanimous And I think
Starting point is 00:23:08 When does that happen? I don't know how long his contract is I don't know I don't have that in front of me I guess I could find that out But it's not gonna happen before the CBA or anything Because we did this a little bit when Manfred See was quote unquote hot
Starting point is 00:23:24 because he was getting heat. It would be a sign of weakness from either side if their top guy went down now. I don't know if that's the case. I like Tony, and I don't want to speak illy of him because I do like him. He works his ass off. Like, he's putting in the work.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But I don't, I wouldn't say it's 100% sure. Like, he's going to be there. His contract with the PA is through 2022. So if it gets pushed, then it would be, it would be, yeah, I don't know, just everything that you hear and see. It seems like they should probably switch it up. So every spring training, they go around and we have our meetings. And so I was part of one last year and then every year before that. And, you know, when we have the big free agent freezes that we did, people show up to spring training waiting for that meeting.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So we can have it out and talk about it. and usually, you know, prior to those, you know, whatever it was, 2017, 18 off seasons when nobody was paying free agent. The meetings were just kind of a bunch of fun. We talked about everything. You went and got your licensing check. You were stoked. Once that happened, you started to see a difference in those meetings.
Starting point is 00:24:45 It was like, we have a bunch of questions for you. We need answers. And it was more of like a back and forth. and guys were really getting into it. So when you see that at those meetings, you kind of understand that guys are paying a lot of attention to it. And I just don't see it being smooth the entire way through this CBA as far as the leadership roles in the players association.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And we saw, we saw, we talked to some guys personally. I've talked to some guys personally. We saw around spring training that with the whole Astros thing, players were pissed at the union. You protected 3% of the players and hurt 97% of the players. If you were to protect the players, you would have protected the majority,
Starting point is 00:25:34 not the minority. Like that's what we, I heard that exactly from a player. So I don't know, it seems like a mess right now. The whole, I feel like that's someone that's misinformed because you got to protect all players.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah. But that's just how a union works. Like he has to protect. those players. And like, yeah, he might have pissed some other guys off, but I think that was the right thing to do. If I'm a, if I'm a leader, I have to protect all people in my, that are under my, well, then you're just as, you're as weak as your weakest link, then that sucks. Yeah, but I mean, you, you're supposed to be protected when you end up in that 3%, whether it's trastroes or whether it's something else. So I don't know, for me, this is a lot of, I don't know if it's fear
Starting point is 00:26:21 mongering or whatever we're doing because I think this all started with a quote from that said good faith and we just think of the time period we're still in we're still in the pandemic when starting to get pessimistic with some optimism we were still like oh there's not going to be signs of life till Memorial Day it's still April it's April 21st yesterday was 420 so I don't know I think some of this is still, is Tony Clark maybe a problem for the players union? Sure. I don't know all the details to it. And I know there's, there's some bad, but there's also some good. I mean, this, this offseason dude's got paid, paid pretty good. So I don't know. I think it's a little bit where we're at right now looking for stuff. But, and with that good faith, the second that
Starting point is 00:27:16 someone breaks that good faith, whether it is the owners or the player union, and this time is going to get wrecked. Because if you don't have good faith right now, you're not going to have it. Yeah. So let's get a little positive. It's not been a positive episode. Do you want to hear someone that made out right before the world went down? Who's that? our boy friend of the pod Christian Yelich yeah
Starting point is 00:27:50 and you're saying why why is he coming out like this he signed a massive deal about four days before all of this went down he doesn't sign that deal anymore if it happened four days prior like he's not going to get that deal
Starting point is 00:28:04 pause yeah well he's not going to get paid for the first year of it now though so that's a bummer it is a bummer but you think about all those guys who were they were negotiating They're like, hey, actually, let's cut off until, you know, I don't want to do it in spring training.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And they cut it off thinking, hey, we're going to, we'll get it done eventually. And now that shit is not going to happen. Not the same way it was going to happen. No. Timing, man. Timing is everything. And some people find it. Some people don't.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah. Yeli earned it, though. I mean, I'm not taking away anything from Yeli. Like, Yelly money. And then the minor league stuff, do we want to talk about that at all? No. I mean, we can't. It's just it's it's we've already kind of we had a whole damn show on it.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But yeah, I mean, they're basically going forward with what is it, three or four affiliates per team. Four affiliates a piece. Four affiliates a piece. Which is what it's a rookie ball, A ball, double a triple A. I've been saying this for a long time that that's what they needed to do and it's not a popular opinion. And I know that it's going to cause some cities to have some, some hurt. You know, one of the one of the one of the, one of the. that one of the clubs that's not going to be around anymore is my first ever professional
Starting point is 00:29:21 team, the Elizabeth and Twins. And I have a lot of fond memories there, a lot of nice people there. But it is funny. It's just the way of the world, man. It is funny that, like, we did a whole entire episode. I mean, deep dove into this if you haven't heard and you want to listen to the realignment. And, uh, I mean, you talk to players. You pulled players and we talked to people and kind of everyone like within baseball is,
Starting point is 00:29:47 is saying it kind of is for the better of baseball and makes a lot of sense. But like the public, especially on social media, like is so against it. It feels like they're against it without really thinking about it. Yeah. Because it's not as terrible. Like they make it seem like MLB's like being Nazis. It's like it's not. It was a flawed system.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It was a flaw that needed to get revamped. People are very nostalgic about these cities, and they just, they say like small towns, and they think, oh, what a beautiful little small town. It's not like that, okay? And industries lead desert small towns left and right. Like, that's like.
Starting point is 00:30:38 They do. And this is, I mean, we're talking about some. It's not fun. It's not fun. A thousand people, maybe a game. Like, it's not huge industries. Is it, jobs that are being lost, yes. I mean, there will be some jobs that are being lost and it is tough
Starting point is 00:30:52 for some of these towns. But that's just the way of the world. I mean, we didn't need seven affiliates per team. And remember like we were reading it and one of them was just a high school baseball field that a minor league team like an A ball team played on? Yeah. And you know, it's a human thing too. You know, we sell baseball has sold a pipe dream to a lot of people and and when that dream comes to a screeching hall, a lot of people are in a really bad position. I know a lot of them personally. And that's why I just, I don't think that we needed that many people. A majority of the guys were fillers.
Starting point is 00:31:28 We knew that. We talked about it. So this is going to correct some of that. It's not like, yeah, people are going to say, oh, you're mean. You're not thinking about like the communities that it's going to change. But I am thinking about those. And I do feel bad about it. But this is something I think needed to be done.
Starting point is 00:31:45 and now it's pretty much official that it's going to be done. Yeah, I think what you opened up our eyes to are guys that actually get stuck in baseball and kind of set their lives back a little bit, which people don't really look at it that way. And yeah, if you're baseball, what you need to do is just make sure you cover your ass. I think we talked about, what was it, Daytona Beach, that the city had just paid for a new stadium, and that was one of the teams that was going to get eliminated. Just make sure you take care of that because that's when things will get ugly for baseball. ball if you're a giant conglomerate like that and you essentially took away two million dollars
Starting point is 00:32:22 from a town that's how you get people really pissed off so figure out how to take care of that figure out you know if if you're doing exit stipends for the other teams or something like that you got to cover your butt to a degree you're going to get a little bit of public backlash and then it'll be gone and forgotten and that's yeah this one one last part about it hey trev i can i do a therapy session with you. Dan Herron, Dan Heron tweeted that retiring from baseball is a mental challenge more difficult than any I had in my playing days. And he was quote tweeting something about Roy Halliday and his troubles. But you're a guy that recently retired from the baseball life and the word like institutionalized or like on the schedule and the program for all of
Starting point is 00:33:11 your high school until age 31. Did you, do you have any struggles or you just found us now and you're good? I don't know. I think people put a lot of their self-worth into their work. And baseball and sports in general is one of those things. It just comes to a screeching halt one day. And I was aware of that. So I wanted to prepare myself mentally for it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And I think I did. All right. Like, had a season in the minor leagues at the end of my career. And I don't think a lot of guys do that. Like, I went and played. Like,
Starting point is 00:33:52 I played and, like, there just wasn't room for me anymore. So, like, I felt like, I gave it a go. Like,
Starting point is 00:33:57 a little, like, it wasn't, like, a cliff and then done. Yeah, and originally I didn't do that. I didn't,
Starting point is 00:34:04 like, when I didn't make the team, uh, with the Rangers, I just, like, I went to AAA for five days. And I went home.
Starting point is 00:34:12 and I was going to be done with baseball. And I'm happy I went back and went and played for the Phillies that year. I made my way back to the big leagues for a short time for like a month or whatever it was. But I like went back to the minor leagues, put myself through that. And I just, I was done. Like I gave it all. I gave everything I had. So I like I feel like I transitioned well because I prepared myself for it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But yeah, a lot of guys, man. Well, it's weird because, you know, we're very similar ages. and I'm like just now found what my career will be. And like to think that baseball players like it ends there or you know, that's like it's a quick like close the book and the got to open a new one. That would be crazy hard. So I understand it. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:58 a lot of guys don't do well with their money. They have, um, they don't budget while they're playing. And so like the paycheck start coming. I think guys really freak out about that because they've established these lifestyles. They got bills and they got no money coming in. So I think I've done a good job with that.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like I try to live within my means and just I'm happy, man. Like, yeah, you guys are part of it. Definitely. I have an outlet now to be creative and I like a few of you. Boom. Awesome. Some of you guys I don't like. Great.
Starting point is 00:35:35 But it's tough, man. It's tough watching some players, you know, they'll lock themselves in their base. and open up cards and it's like are you all right man do you want to talk about it or something oh man you know i i spoke to phil there's a there's a there's a twitter thing going on right now there's a massive baby have you seen a massive yeah dude i don't like that video at all it grosses me out so is that really a baby i think it is and phil it was uh i think he still is the biggest baby ever born in orange county so he has that title and i texted him i asked him are
Starting point is 00:36:11 you jealous of this baby? And he said he wasn't, but I got to tell you, I think he was a little bit. That's like pretty big for him to claim that he was a big baby, and this thing just dwarfs. Yeah. Whatever he was. Dude, that baby's like an eight-year-old dress like a baby. That thing grosses me out. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:36:30 How old is that baby supposed to be? Do we know? I don't know. Because is that like a fresh baby, or is that like It's like 14 months old and they're just like... David, could you define fresh baby for me? Baby, it can hold it. I think he's at least a year old.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Like, it's, like, it's hold its head up. So, like, I know it's not like a newborn. But that thing came out doing like freaking dips and pushups. I mean, look at that baby. Came out of the womb with a six-back. It's too big. It's just too, it's too big. People always want to, you don't want a big baby.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Okay? Like, they literally had to break Phil Hughes's, collarbone to get him out. You don't want a big baby, okay? I thought you were going to say something grosser. Just a regular baby's fine. Hey, I know. Nobody wants big baby.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Ooh. All right. And that ends this one. We got some good talks. A new plan. We'll get another plan next week. I think the plans, this plan chronologically, this plan advanced from the other plan. So I'm happy with it.
Starting point is 00:37:35 But like if they come out with next week plan is like going back to Japan, I'm pissed again. Let's keep going the right direction with the plants. I want to end it on a positive note. One of the guys I talked to who is very in the know with these things, he's at 70% positive a season will happen. Okay. But is he a player? Because then you have to put a lot of salt onto it. It is a player. Okay. So I'm going to bump that down to 65%. That's still good. A little salt. Just a little salt. Because it's their livelihood and hopes and dreams, you know. Hey, go watch my show. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah. Yeah. So cool. It's the best. It's the best. We'll see you on Friday. And Asian hats are in. They're in.

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