Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 148 | Cespedes Family BBQ Returns!

Episode Date: May 25, 2020

Jake and Jordan from Cespedes Family BBQ come back on the pod to discuss their old tweets about Trevor Plouffe, their new deal with The Ringer, Dominican and Division-III baseball, and life during MLB's shutdown. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome to Talking Baseball. We've got a fun conversation with the guys from Sestpid's Family Barbecue. Let's do it. What's going on, everybody? Happy Memorial Day. We hope you're being safe, but having fun and enjoying yourself. Thanks for tuning in to talking baseball.

My name's Jimmy. I've got Trevor Plouffe here. I've got Jake Storelli here. We got producer BBD down in the corner. And we just wrapped up a fun conversation with Jake and Jordan from Sestimitist Family Barbecue. now from baseball barbecue on the ringer. And Trev, you had never,

never met these guys before. We met him at winter meetings, had a blast and had a lot of fun with them. But you had never met him. Are you, were impressed by their wealth of knowledge? I was. I think they're good guys.

I told you I had something special that happened to me this morning, so I was already in a good mood. So I think maybe that's something to do with it. But, you know, we got to talking with these guys. And they're just fun.

I mean, they're baseball fans. and they kind of just covered different things than we covered usually. So it was cool to like kind of take a break from what we usually do and talk about the Dominican and D3 baseball and all sorts of crap. Yeah, Jake, you mentioned on this,

the episode we did with them at winter meetings where we really talked about nothing. We talked about a funny text exchange, but this was more baseball, more baseball, right? Yeah, and I almost wanted to do, that with them with the ringer stuff a little bit. Because I don't know if Trevor knows this, but there's an old story where Jimmy

thought he was texting me, but he was texting Cespiteus BBQ, and he basically shared all of our financial information. And so the Jake you just, the Jake you just met was receiving these texts and he's like, wow, this John boy guy.

He's either flexing on me or I'm not sure what he's doing. Because I was like it was a good month, Jake. It was a good month. That whole story is pretty bizarre. But yeah, man, I mean, I'm genuinely happy for them to get involved with the ringer. And I think the other thing is like, we share the same airspace, but not at all, man. And I just, it's one of those weird things that, you know, at the end of the day when all this is said and done, I have no idea what my life looks like.

but I know if it stays in baseball, like those guys will be around it at the end. Like they are just so passionate about this damn sport that I, I unfortunately like them and I hate it. Wow. All right. Well, we are going to throw it to that interview. But before we do that,

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We are, we are so excited. Well, let me start over. Jimmy are so excited for you and Trevor Plouf is very nervous. So how, how are you guys? Oh, I feel great. Jake is trying to make sure that you can't tell what pitch he's throwing. I've been preparing for this by reading this book, Moneyball. Okay. So you're up to, because I'm a baseball fan. I'm a baseball fan. So I know every word. It's like my Bible. Is Moneyball good? Does it age well? I don't like the movie, but people get so mad at me when I say that.

But the movie's not good. If we're going to all be honest with each other, the movie's not good. The movie's not good, but like, we do need to take a step back and appreciate how insane it is that Brad Pitt is playing a GM in like a blockbuster film. Yeah, like that's a win regardless of how shitty the movie is. It's the worst thing that could have happened because Billy Bean already loves himself. and then you have Brad Pitt playing in a movie and it's like dude that's a Trump card for life he's got it

it's true that's true yeah Rick Hahn Rick Hahn can't say that no don't break from Rick on or who's the other guy that was Jonah Hill played yeah

it's a bitesta right yeah that's kind of a tough one too yeah Jonah Hill got awards for that movie and he like didn't even act like every line he gave was just like yeah just he's got better stats than him. Just like in that voice. They gave him an award. He crushed it.

He's got the clench. That's crazy. Anyway, how are you guys doing, man? Congrats. Two other guys that turned their baseball fanhood into a job. So that's a lot of people here. Trev turned his baseball skill into a job. So it's a little bit different. But how long was this deal like going? Pretty exciting. Yeah. I mean, we don't have to go into the full backstory. But I can say that it stretches back a lot farther than when we announced it a few.

months or a few weeks ago because uh yeah i mean we were like ready to roll right when everything was shut down so we don't have to go hour by hour but let's just say we were very close to announcing it when baseball was shut down so it kind of on rudy gobert day yeah so it kind of threw a wrench into our plans but we you know we we we kind of reconvened and and put a back together and now we're we're excited to finally have a podcast again i remember I remember we first got contacted when we were in the Dominican, when Jordan was visiting me in the Dominican Republic. And we were like, we heard that the ringer was interested. And it was like, oh, well, sure.

Yeah. Great. That's awesome. I was into your content in the Dominican. I was, I was following along, especially when you guys went to like a fucking house party down there. And I was jealous. I was like, dude, there's nothing I'd rather be doing than partying. You know, like you guys look like you're like putting fireworks off in the street or some shit.

Like, it was a, it was real deal. Like, you guys were in it. Trevor, you could have gone down there and been an absolute legend. I don't know if you had ever played a ball. It feels like that would have been the move. Yeah, I just, yeah. I mean, I kind of avoided it, to be honest with you. There was a few times where I could have went down there,

but to me, I valued the, I value the offseason a lot. Right. No, that's fair. It's just weird in retrospect because, like, those insane, Dominican games were the last baseball games we watched. Yeah. So it's kind of a, we wish it out. You know, I appreciate them even more.

What was the, like, I mean, I think we had just talked to at winter meetings, right, Jake? About your time down there and you had the beard and everyone told you they didn't like it, but you've kept it. So I, you know, congratulate you on your pridefulness and keeping the beard. That's awesome. You went back to the Dominican, right, after winter meetings? Yeah, so I was there for a total of about two months in a couple different chunks of time. Jordan came and visited me for about a week of that.

I was there before and after the winter meetings. And like it was, I'm very lucky that I had the opportunity to do it. We had like a bit of a lull in just the work that we were doing and I had the time to go. And it was so incredibly worth it and gave me a real approach the way the world works down there. because like it's easy to be like oh the dominican is this lawless like free for all of baseball world and it is of that to an extent but like there are still real people running these teams and people are living and dying by it and just being amongst it gave me such a deep appreciation for their being baseball beyond just America didn't one team fire like four managers in the

season or something like that? Well, of the six teams in the league, five of them fired their manager at one point during the season. How many of the fired managers got like rehired within the league? None of them came back. My favorite one is that one team, the team that I was following the most, Escojito, fired their manager who was Buck Britton, Zach Britton's brother. Oh, we met him. Friend of the pod. Yeah, yeah. One of the best guys, spent a lot of time with Buck. They fired Buck like a week before the postseason and didn't get a new manager until the first postseason game. So they just like brought a guy in to start managing the team in the playoffs.

And that was Luis Matos, believe it or not. Oh, wow. So it was, can you imagine, can you imagine a team like stumbles into the postseason and just has a new manager for like the game one of the ALDS? How many teams make the postseason out of the six? All of them? four four of six make it and then and then they do a round robin of those four teams and then the top two of that round robin move to the final so there's like an 18 game playoff

round robin damn was buck's team the four seed they were the three seed so why'd they fire him like it seems like that's decent yeah like it so he wasn't the manager to start the year James Tangler Chase Tangler Of course he was The Padres was down there managing this team

and went 8 and 0 or 8 and 1 or something got the Padres job and left And he's like I'm out Was the quality control coach And was like I guess I got to do the job

And so once Buck stepped in The team kind of Slid a little bit Not Buck's fault at all Just the ups and downs of baseball But like they'll fire people In an instant Like they will, the leash is so short.

And the way that the fans react to winning and losing, like if a team is on like a, a W-2, the place is packed. If they're on a two-loss win streak or two-game loss streak, no one's there. It's empty. That's crazy, man. I love that. So hearing another Jake talk makes my skin crawl. So Jordan, how are you doing, man? And have you, I mean, have you taken a step back and be like, my life has led me to doing backyard baseball games and this is heaven?

Or like, where are you at? Because I know when I, when I first moved to the city, great time to move to the city, by the way. I actually, I sent other Jake attacks and I was like, dude, we should, we should grab a beer. And as we just came off spring training and Trevor Plouf was noting how notoriously gross me and John Boy were, you know, all those. all the corona stuff started and other Jake said something along the lines of if you think I'm seeing anybody right now, you're out of your mind. So I guess walk me through. I was early. I was early. Yeah. Walk me through how you've been, I guess, since March and everything you guys have been doing because we're all in this kind of same boat of like what do we do and it's kind of

where we landed. Right, right. Well, it has been interesting. And I know that like the first, you know, we had the opening day, MLB opening day at home where you're showing all these old games. I know teams and MLB is still putting out all these old games. I only have so much of an appetite for watching old games. And so like the best part about all those games is that they are the worst game for the other teams fan. So it was like obviously you're celebrating them for half the fans. And then half these teams are like, why are why do I have to relive this? Like I know they were just showing game six of 2011 last night.

it's like if you're a radio's fan, it's like, God damn it. Why am I being subjected to this again? So there are kind of two sides to that. But, you know, we're doing okay. Obviously, you guys do a great job of still celebrating baseball without baseball in all kinds of bizarre ways. But it's just finding ways that are not watching old games. And that's been the challenge for me.

But doing okay. We, so Jake's been watching old games just as like, you know, at home on his couch watching old games. I can't do that. at all. But we've been doing watching like just like an inning here and an inning there. We're calling it watching baseball. And there's craziness.

And I kind of want to ask you this, Jake, about the Dominican. Like the game was played different. If you watch a game from the 70s and 80s, it's a completely different strategy. Anytime there's a runner on first base, they hit and ran. Like without question. They were hitting running. And in the 70s, late 70s, I would say, I would say 50% of bats, maybe that's high,

maybe 40% of that bats had a fake bunt in it, like just a showed bun. Maybe they didn't bunt, but they showed it. Like nonstop showing bunt. And Jake and I were like, damn, this is really different. The games are two hours long, which I do kind of now appreciate that, where people are like, the games are too long. I'm like, you know what?

Kind of have a point. Those two hour games were quick. But the bunting's crazy. What was it? Is the Dominican just slugfest, you know, the two true outcomes? No, dude, it's the opposite. The Dominican is like half of old baseball. So it is a lot more small ball.

A lot of the parks are huge and a lot of the parks are right on the water at sea level. So the ball doesn't carry it all. The all-time record for home runs in that league is like 92 for a career and it's Juan Francisco, which you guys will appreciate. He's like the Barry Bonds of the Dominican Air League. So there's a lot more stealing, a lot more bunting. But on the other hand, games are there are even longer than MLB right now on average. And a big reason for that is the way that they use bullpen.

So you have a 38 weekly roster and you pick a 28 daily from the 38. And so teams are just cycling through these bullpen arms all the time. and it leads to this bullpen carousel, and it's just mind-numbing at times. It's a game take forever. The one game that sticks in my head, I was the 13-inning game. It was like a one-game playoff. It started at 7, and it went so long that by 2.30 a.m. And it started raining, and they had to postpone it for the next day.

Like, I understand 13 innings as long. It shouldn't take until 2.30, 2.45 a.m. It's not 13-18-18 innings. that's insane what is that like seven an hours it was like a seven hour game yeah well and also like you combine like the relievers aren't very good so it's like you have relievers who aren't it's a combination of that and the managers who are basically every day trying to not get fired so it's like yeah pressing too many buttons and then other times so yeah and they have and they have replay they have replay there but it sucks like their replay system there is not great there is one replay thing there that

you guys will love so there's one field that doesn't have like the technology hookup to the main office so the umpires keep an iPhone like next like behind home plate and I saw them call like on an iPhone to get the ruling of the call whatever I thought you were saying they were going to be videoing with the iPhone. I was like, no, boys don't do that. Oh, that's what I was thinking. So they called someone who, how were they, how did they, or who did they call? They just called like the office, like the replay, like their version of Chelsea or whatever, right? But instead of doing it with like the headphones and the hookup, they were just like, Siri, call, you know. I mean, look, our MLB's replay system sucks too. So it might as well be. It might as well be.

an iPhone there. As long as it takes for those guys to decide if they're going to be an out or not is ridiculous. I was going to say much worse. We've had a lot of replays in, I don't know how much KBO you guys have been watching, but like, I feel like they are faster with the replay, but it's still a lot of the same problems. Like they, the same thing, they bring it out. And this, you know, but whoever gets to hold the replay machine, they always, they get their time in the sun. I love that. I love that. They're,

their star. By the end of the season last year, I would recognize each stadium's replay operator. No? Like, oh, there he is. I wonder what his name is. I'm getting this is rude, but there's only one that I remember. And it's because it's a very portly guy with like a big beard. And I'm like, you're so hot right now. You just, you're like that's, you have all this equipment on, you're fat and you have like a beard and long hair. Like, come on, man. Like, this job sucks for you. That's Jimmy's unit of measurement for people is how hot do they look right now. Yeah. Yeah. It's too hot.

I got to say, I think I'm a baseball snob because I can't watch KBO. I surely couldn't watch a winter league game. I'm not going to watch the minor league All-Star game. I just can't. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I'm the exact opposite, man. I'm the exact opposite.

Yeah. These guys have a D3 podcast going. Yeah. Yeah, Trevor, you're talking to the guys who are actively seeking out the worst forms of baseball and consuming it to a degree. God bless you guys. Certainly unhealthy. But no, but like, see, that's interesting, though,

because for you, I mean, is it, is it just that you can tell the difference so much? Like, is it the quality? Is it that it's not, is that you're watching it knowing they're not the best players in the world? Like, you, what is the aversion? I'm just curious. For me, go ahead, Trevin.

I'll do my answer. I think it is that. I can tell. even if I'm watching, like, there's no way I'm going to tune into, like, a Tigers Orioles game either. Oh, wow. No offense. No offense to you, like an Orioles fan, but, you know, I want to see the best.

Like I said, I want to see like Keirmeyer flying around the outfield or Bucksdon or something like that. Like, that's, to me, that's kind of what it is. But, um, C.C. Sabathia said the same thing on his show. So maybe it's, you know, these guys watch games. In saying that, I will watch a Little League World Series game. So maybe I'm just an idiot. I'm, I'm glad you can.

you can open up your heart to the I do like that the 11 year olds from you know from Marietta Georgia who are you know kicking the shit out of the kids from Connecticut yes that is my favorite thing am I wrong am I wrong am I wrong I love the regional

like I don't know it's not a bias but like obviously Texas Florida California are just going to go in and whip on the northeastern teams and I love that yeah I'm called Todd raise you up, kick your ass.

I don't think you want. Hey, I've had a little scrum with old Todd father. You had a brawl with Todd? I mean, not just me and him, but,

yeah, it was one-on-one. Todd's fine. Todd and I are great. Although I will say, there's a big difference. Todd invited me. Between the teams from Jersey

and the teams from Canadian. I went and watched Todd son play flag football. So, I mean, me and Todd are close friends. Oh. The,

the, the, the, the, the, like this. There, there was a line in my interview questions for a while that I thought was a good question. Um, because we were talking about like, Trevor Plouffe and Delman Young played baseball together at age 12. And like, I think that's awesome. Like, that's incredible. Um, and I feel like,

I always got the speech from coaches that was something along the lines of like, you know, only one of you out here might be a major leaguer. And I don't know why my team always got that speech. Uh, turned out the coach was right. There was zero major leaguers. But I, but I, I would like ask them questions like that or other guys that played with talented guys when they were young. And like Trevor and everyone else was like, no, man, nobody else got that speech. I think it was just you little guy. No, it's just because you're from Connecticut. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. One day you could grow up and play with George Springer. Yeah. Jeff Bagwell. I do think that was just like Jake's coach said that to him. I don't think that's very common. like thing. Coach was right.

Let's let's not put him under the bus. Coach was right. Who was the one major leager? Wait, Trevor, if you played with Delman Young as a 12 year old, were you guys the two best players on the team? Yeah. He was for sure. He was like a god back then.

You know, he was just better than everybody. And I probably was like, yeah, I mean, I was. Yeah. I don't know, maybe not. But you said they had a recruiter. I grew in high school. They had like a. a dude who recruited Trev and Delman to this, like, you know, travel team.

So they were like the hot commodities. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I was good, but I was a notable alumni page now. Yeah, Jenny Dell. Wow, this is Rick Dempsey. I have his picture on my bedroom wall. I love Rick.

Oh, Treves. Yeah, it's probably way more cooler than Pompah Rock High School. But we have Jenny Dell. A few big leaders. We have Jenny Dell. Jenny Dell. you know. Katie Stevens.

This is Middlebrooks? Whatever. Yeah. Middlebrooks came back for like Thanksgiving and bought everyone shots at the bar and everyone's like, oh, so excited about it. But wait, but Trevor, so why do you like the Little League World Series? Because I know. I know the answer here.

Because I don't really know. Because you have some rooting interest. You root for California and Texas to beat the shit out of the Northeast. Like I have, so for, for KBO, the times are just bad. Like I'm not going to wake up or do like we have a crazy day. If I had a TV in this office and KBO was on, it would be on the background easily. And that would lead to be making gifts of some weird shit that happens. And I'd be covering it like normal.

Right. But the CPBL, that was bad baseball. Like I could, I was like, oh, this is bad baseball. I was like, oh, this is, this is not. Like, I tried to tune into a couple. And I was like, oh, this is kind of like, nah, I'm not into this. It was just very sloppy. Can I give you guys a story of, I almost went to Korea to play.

Okay. Here we go. So I'm in Lehigh Valley, rotting away my last year in professional baseball. And this guy approached me. He said, hey, like, we got a spot. We're probably going to release this guy. Do you want to come play? I'm like, look, I don't know.

Like, come, let's talk about it. This guy came and talked about it. And I had, I was like, I got a few questions for you, man. I'm like, I'm like, how's the quality of baseball? I said, and shoot me straight. you know like i know you're like part of the league but like tell me what it really is and he said it is between triple a and the big leagues and immediately i knew he was full of shit and so my follow up question to that was why do these guys who kind of like flame out in the lower miners go over there

and become monsters and he tried to like give me some explanation for that it was a bad one and i was look, I'm interested, like, you know, so like get back to me. Like, we'll talk, we'll have like another meeting about it. And he ended up like kind of saying, like, look, we think we're going to go in a different direction. I got like shut out. Damn. And what's funny is, like, two weeks after that, I was back in the big leagues.

So it was like a big fuck you to that guy. I think the KBO is between, like, I think the KBO is between, like, I, like, I. We've been watching a decent amount of it. I think it's between double and AAA. It's definitely not between AAA in the big leagues. But there is a level of physicality in the KBO that blows away the CPBL. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, the biggest difference is just the pitching. Like, you really are not seeing anything above 91. You'll go whole games without seeing above 91. You really don't see anything above like 145 kilometers an hour. Are you guys like well-versed? in that? Like, do you see 145, one third in you're like, oh, that's that? No. I have a little, I have a chart

on my phone. Yeah, I've gotten pretty used to it. But you can just tell, like, you know, it's also the style of the pitching too. And that's true in most of the leagues in Asia. Like, it's just, it's a whole lot of junk,

which is great, but it's, it's we had, we had, I want to get into this conversation about like why Jordan and I like bad baseball. I think this is interesting, right? I think part of it is we grew up in the D.C. area. I played competitive travel ball. Competitive travel ball in the D.C. area, we would get wiped by anyone from Southern California, like eight times over, right?

I grew up an Orioles fan in the 2000s. We sucked always, right? So I think for me, the joy of baseball, I was kind of forced into five. finding joy in the crap in a way, right? And because of that, that is kind of gotten me to this point now where I'm waking up most mornings to watch KBO. Jordan and I do a podcast about Division III baseball. I love that. Exclusively.

Just Division III. And we love every little bit of it. Wait, hold on. About D3, producer BPD, I'll get you back on screen. He covered a D3 school, right? Didn't you say that? I've worked at, well, I went to the school in the Centennial Conference. We will know it.

Another school in the Centennial Conference. I went to her scientist college. Oh my. We got to talk about, Stan Exeter. We got to talk about Alex Mummy. Well, so I mean, you're older than Alex Mummy. Like, I know, I know him. Hey, Trevor Plouf, I just want to have the opportunity to tell a former major leaguer about Alex

Mummy. This kid was incredible. Oh, my goodness. Anyway, sorry. Alex Mummy. Shout out, baby. So BVD told us at one point, like, no, like, didn't you say the players listened to their D3 podcast and like they're all over? I said I listened to it.

Okay. When I saw it existed. What percentage of the D3 listeners are the players in the D3, like, players? It's players coaches families, you know. Okay. That's a lot of parents. Like 600 to a thousand listens a week a week, depends. on what it is.

Yeah. I mean, there are 380 D3 schools. Right. That's what I was going to ask. How do you cover that? Like, is there enough to cover?

The 380 seems like a lot to me. That's way more than I thought. Is there enough? It's too much. Where do you even start? I thought there was going to be like 10 or 15 schools you guys cover. 380. Who's a D3 graduate or that is now in a big link farm that you guys are like he's cracking a

roster soon? All right. Jordan Zimmerman. is and Billy Wagner are the two best D3 players of all time. Okay. The guys now, J.P. Fire Eisen, Yankee legend, buried at AAA for no reason. Free JP Fire Eisen. Oh, I had a homer off him in AAA.

Oh, yeah. Wow. There you go. I went big fly off him, too. That was fun. I think I might have clipped him, too. Yeah. There's a D3 kid who's going to get picked in the second round this year named Nick Garcia.

He's going to be like a cop round guy. He's at he's at a he's at a he's at a chatman university Trevor you could have gone to Chapman and won multiple national championship. Yeah, Chapman's a really good program. I know about Chapman. Okay. Yeah, there you go. That's the one to know about.

There's a guy named Lake Backer in the Padre system who's pretty legit guy named Tommy Parsons in the who made the Cardinals top 30 list. I mean, usually it's pitchers, not hitters because making the adjustment from seeing 86 to 96 usually doesn't make the leap. but if you're a pitcher and you go to a smaller school and you grow four inches and gain 10 miles on your VLO, like that's going to play, right? Yeah. Even if you're bullying kids.

Dude, we're going to see so much more talent at these universities because, you know, the three-year rule at D1 sucks. Yeah. Yeah. You know, make it four years at least. Like let guys get their degree. If that's what you want, like let them get their degree. But when there's three years, it's absolutely pointless.

And now, especially with the shorter draft, like guys are going to, say I'm going to go to Jucco, I'm going to go to a D3, whatever program, and I'll be there for six months, and then I'll become a free agent. D3, you got to wait, though. Is D3 also? You got to do three years. Oh, yeah. It's the worst of both worlds, baby.

No scholarships. No scholarships, and you got to wait. So, Juko will be the one that takes all the time. Juko's about to rake in the talent from this bizarre draft. Oh, that's, uh. Are you guys, is there like a D3 school that you're more well? Verston than an MLB team. Like, do you know more about a best D3 school than like the,

let's see, Padres? No, no. Well, I can say, okay, not in Major League, but like more than D1 schools, easily. Like, even the best D1 programs, I definitely know more about. I might know more. Well, we know more about our own schools. Yeah. Like, where we went, like in where I played.

Like, I know more about that program than I do about the Tigers. Oh, how's your Tommy John recovery going? Oh, it's going all right. Here you go. You're going to get the stitches on there? No, that's so tacky. Okay. Exactly.

That's your brand. Tackiness and awfulness. Sorry, that slips up again. Jake on Jake Crime. I don't do well with other jakes. And I think long story short, MLB Network, if you're listening, which we know they are, if you guys don't get some strange baseball and travel, Andrew Zimmer type show at some point.

It's a sin to the baseball gods. And so Trevor, as you're finding out, these two guys are sickos in their separate ways as well. And normally I want to do this and put them on the spot, but I know they'll have stuff. And it also puts you on the spot. But boys, as you know, we dug through the Cespitus Twitter pipeline a little bit

to find any Trevor Plouf. And we did find, you know, there was an opening day, Trevor Plouf lined out. we missed that, which, which again, I mean, line out. You hit the ball hard. You hit it. Yeah, you hit it well. That's what he said.

Treve was like, yeah, line out's nice. What other memories do you guys have is Trevor Plouffe? Because I do know, you know, Jordan, you have some minor league sicko qualities. And you guys are just baseball sick P in general. So, and what do you have on Trevor Plouf before he comes back at you? Oh, boy. Well, I would say that if we're talking like, again, someone comes out to me with a gun and says, name an early 2000s Minnesota twin,

you're probably one of the first three people I name. Like if we're, and you can't say Joe Mauer, I'm probably saying Trevor Plouf pretty quickly. And yeah, your name helps. I'm remembering Plouf a lot more easier than I'm remembering the name Scott Baker. I'll do respect to him. But yeah, I mean, you and Kevin Slowie, who we've been fortunate enough to become friendly with over the last few years are just way up there on those rankings. So I really have I got no beef.

I mean, we'll, we'll show you what we, what we said about you, more slander on our website when we were in college. But other than that, you know, I really have, I really have nothing, really nothing bad. If you say Trevor Plouffe, I think about the 28 double plays he grounded into to lead the league in 2018. That's your, that's a black ink, right? Yeah. Yeah. It is. You know who else led the league in double plays hit into?

Albert Poolew. Albert Poulouse. Miguel Cabrera. Some of the great. Just means you hit the ball. Trevor, let me make a point, though, because there are,

like, I'm not, there are so many baseball players, right? Like, there are so many. And when you're, like, covering the league,

they just kind of run together at a certain point, right? And you never know down the road who you're going to end up on a podcast with and who you'll never, ever think about again.

And it's like total chance, right? I'm sure if I had gotten the opportunity to have a conversation with you in 2011, I'd be like, oh, Trevor Plouf. Like, he's interesting. Like, he's not just your typical baseball dummy, right? But, like, at the time, I don't know the difference between you and Josh Willingham's personalities, right? Like, how? How would I ever know that? Right? And it's just so funny that, like, you fast forward and then Trevor Plouf, like, he's part of the gang. I feel like you're leading me into something we're like, hey, I wrote this horrible thing about you.

Read Trev the headline of the article. He'll love it. I'm in the dark here. Yeah, you're not. The timing of it is also very key, I would like to say. Okay. Here, wait, Jake, do you have it? Do you want me to read it?

As the clean. You got the byline. As the cleanest guy in baseball, Treb. Here we go. What is this during August 15th, 2013, I think? All right. Headline, players who took steroids by Jake and Jake McMiss. There is a problem with baseball.

It's not the new CBA. It's not the Angels bullpen. And it's not the fact that there is an alleged rapist pitching for the Tampa Bay Rays. I assume I'm talking about Josh Lucie. Yes. No, the enormous problem with baseball right now is DERG. Here are some buzzwords you need to know about Dergs.

Buzzword. Biogenesis is a group of scientists working together to uncover biological secrets from the Bible. That's a good joke. That's pretty good. Buzzword, HGH. HGH obviously stands for Hugh Grant's head, which can be found by clicking here. Links. What's the link?

It's a link joke. Buzzword, 50 game suspension. when rappers 50 cent and the game are kept in suspense by the rap community about their feud. Okay. Anyway, here are the players who stick steroid, according to me. Miguel Cabrera, Clinton Kirshah, and Trevor Plouffe. Oh, my God. What?

Under, wait, wait, under each guy, I got a picture of them as, like, a high schooler and a picture of them in the big leagues. And I was like, look how much bigger they are now. It must be steroids. Except I obviously, you know, like I didn't find out picture of you in high school. Like I did with like Baby Miggy and Baby Kirshah. So I posted a picture of a fetus and a picture of you. And I wrote, take a gander on how much bigger pluth looks in the second picture. He grew significantly since he was in the womb, which means steroids.

Also, his facial expression in the second picture is suspicious. I would give him 50 games for steroids, 25 games for lying, and 10 games for ploofing. Oh, my. Classic. Now, I have to say, why, as the person who was editing, editing, Jake, at the time, I don't know why we singled you out. I really have no idea. I'm curious, like how I got lumped in with Kershaw and Cabrera. That's great.

Plouf's a great name. It's really that simple. Maybe you had a hot week And we were like Do you want to rebut These allegations, Treve? I mean, as I've stated many times On this podcast, I'm the cleanest guy in baseball

Did you get bigger since the womb? Yes or no? I'm going to have to say that's affirmative, yeah. Steroids. Yeah. I guess you're right. I guess you're right. Jake's taking steroids.

They might have to retroact and just suspend me 50 games. that'd be cool that'd be good for the pod people still think I'm playing so they I think I should just people still think I'm playing

I'm not officially retired I didn't like turn the paperwork in should I just go get suspended like for no reason no Trevor it's like the Michael Jordan conspiracies about how he was secretly suspended for gambling you were actually secretly suspended

for the last year let's start that that's the only reason I like that after they read Jake's post and they were like but for something cool not steroids I got suspended for like espionage or something like that. Yeah.

Okay. That's how you're breaking on the stories. That's a great, that's a great question. If a major leader was involved in some sort of like extremely secret spy mission that was like mega crazy illegal, would they also get suspended but from baseball in addition to like going to jail for 50 years? You're talking about Moberg and he was a loser. Whoa! Yeah. No.

I don't know who that is. We know. So, yeah, I won't do the whole thing. But Jake and I have a history podcast. We did a whole season on baseball. And my brother produces it. And he wrote this whole, you know, on the Moberg story. Moberg was a baseball.

He's a catcher. Oh, we know Moberg. He gets drafted. Don't act like we don't know Moberg. But Trev might not. He gets drafted. He becomes a spy in World War II, tries to assassinate Hitler and all this stuff.

Oh, awesome. Good for him. And they sent baseball players to Japan with Babe Ruth and stuff. And they sent Moberg. who was a shitty catcher, and he was like doing spy stuff. But Jake and I, we didn't mean to, but we were just reading the story on our history show, and it ended up, we just ripped this dude apart.

And it was like the meanest Moberg episode ever. Can we say, though, we... Moberg is a Jewish baseball icon. Okay, that is one thing. Also the worst. Do you also remember the Moberg experience that we had? So when we were in Newburgh's town, we got like a tour of all the special artifacts in the basement.

And one of the things that they brought up to show us was Moberg's Cup. Wow. Why is Moberg in the Hall of Fame? He's a hero, Jen. Well, he didn't actually do anything. Oh, my God. Now, so the, the article was,

Unreal, God. Unreal, but here's, I need to let everyone know where this stems from. Moberg knew like five languages. So he thought the other team knew his signs. So he started writing the signs down in Sanskrit to give to his shortstop. And me and Jake were like, fuck this, dude. Like, imagine being the shortstop. Like, dude, I don't know Sanskrit.

You can't talk to this. John Morosi, John Morosi and Moberg would be the same person if you just flipped the eras. It's crazy. So anyway, I don't know how we landed on Moberg. burger where we were to start that. We need to make a plan where I get suspended from baseball. Yeah. Can you try?

That would be big for the brand. If you do something that is suspension worthy, but you're not an active player, can they still be like, you're suspended? I think so. Like if you throw it someone and then admit it, like maybe if you threw at Jake, like you set something up, throw it Jake said, yes, I threw him on purpose. That's at least eight games for sure. Should I just go fire my gun off in my garage like a certain?

That would also probably get you a few games. Yeah. Geez. Well, that gets you, that gets you 50 games, a hell of a contract in a World Series. Tweet at MLB and say I shot my gun in my garage. No, don't do that. Hey, it all you, Blabor Torres, so let's relax, bud. I think Trevor Pluth is a spot.

That's great. Okay. I think Trevor Plufe is a spot. I think Trevor Ploof is a spot. spot. Yeah. I actually work for Rob Manfred. Oh, damn. Uncle Bob. That sucks. Have you, have you guys, have you guys been able to get yourself excited about any baseball stuff? My one thing that I kept running into was like, if we do this short in season, is that like, I don't know, half the league will be up for MVP because anyone can put half a season together.

So you're talking about an Orioles fan and a Mariners fan here. So like are the Mariners? You really do like bad baseball. This is tough. So if a shortened season happens, I mean, or either of you are like, hey, roll the dice. We can be good for, we can be good for 80 games. I'm honestly going to be more intrigued by the teams that are supposed to be good that just have like a seven game losing streak and half the 10.

I think that's even funnier than the bad teams that end up in the postseason. But I don't know. I mean, I don't know how the draft order is going to work next year. I don't know if they're going to use the shorty record. That was the most Jordan Shusterman answer of all time. Basically, the question is how do you feel about a shortened season? And you're talking about the draft order for 20-1. No, no.

He asked me. He asked me, do I want my bad team to be good? And that is very much related to the draft order. Oh, my God. I mean, that's such a bad team mentality. Like the first thing you thought of is what draft pick. I haven't thought about a Yankees draft pick in my entire life. Okay.

Let me answer the real question. It's cool, kid. Well, no, no, no, listen, listen. I would love, of course. I want the, when they were 13 and 2 last year, I was like, hell yeah, let's go to the freaking playoffs. Who gives a shit? So, you know, why not?

No. Okay. Yes. To answer your question, I want the Orioles to have like two hot weeks and like Anthony Santander as like the MVP and we sneak in. Like, yeah, I want that. There's a better chance of doing it now than there is next year or the year after. Like, give me that. But again, I also sense the beer from these Yankees fans. Right. They're a little nervous. They thought they had it locked up. And over in 162 game season, they did have it locked up. And anything to mess with those odds makes them like kind of move in their chair a little bit. No, they're all healthy. I was watching ESPN and they had some hockey guy on and he was talking about how he doesn't want like the sanctity of the Stanley Cup to be tarnished, right? Like he doesn't want there to be like a shortened BS playoff that reduces it. And I'm the opposite. I don't care. We're living in extraordinary times. Just everyone will know forever that this World Series, whoever wins it, will. just count a little differently, and that's fine. We don't need to not have a season because of that. Well, if they went to that like the like six week round Robin that got talked about and the executive was like, give me six weeks, we'll put on a show, that I would have been very hard to swallow.

That's not a world series. But if they get 81, 82 games, and it definitely is, in my opinion. Can we, I want to bring it back to something here. Yeah. Do you remember, this is really funny. We went down to spring training. We went to Orioles camp. The first thing we noticed was they had great Wi-Fi speed.

Oh, my God. It was the best. Amazing Wi-Fi. Yeah. You're welcome. Well-run. Second thing we noticed, which is, in retrospect, hilarious, is they were practicing catching fly balls with extreme crowd noise.

Now, obviously, that's funny for two reasons. One, they're the Orioles. They're not going to be playing in the playoffs. crowd is going crazy. And two, we're not even going to have any fucking fans in the stands now. It's kind of funny. You plan for greatness. Did you not watch the last dance? Okay. Young MJ with the young Bulls, okay, he's treating it like they're in the championship as he should be. And that's how you plan to be great. If you're on a shitty team in spring training, you're just going to mail it in March? Yeah. They knew. When your, look, when your franchise is like,

look, we're not going to fucking try. You don't think the players know that? Of course they do, but you're still going to do the drills. Not with the crowd noise. You don't need the crowd noise. That's outrageous. And you think crowd noise is eyewash? The crowd noise is kind of eyewashed too.

Yeah, but they were having a, like when we went down to field level and they were, we got a view of it there, they were all having like a blast doing it. Although I do remember there was one second baseman who fucked up and, Hyde was like all over them but you couldn't hear what Hyde was yelling because they were blaring crowd noise so in that moment I think that second Mason was like thank God for this noise because I don't want I was going to say I was going to say that also could be part of the strategy is like we're the Orioles we might be screwing up some of these drills let's make sure that our manager can absolutely lay into our players and no one can hear it they said it we said it started in it buck started it in

2015 after that they were winning more into anyone so you know we're both ways yeah oh man that in retrospect just think about how fucking hilarious that is that they were practicing with the crowd not literally has zero people yeah now they're gonna have to practice without any noise you'll be laughing when it's november and camden yards is jumping jumping jumping yeah whoever's gonna be a concert there or something he doesn't say they hosting some at billy jol at Camden Yards. Hey, so when you guys get the ringer deal, were they like, you need to drop the Cespedus? Did you guys fight for the Cespitus? No. Look, it's already confusing enough. We already have to explain the name enough, and we still do, right? But we're, yeah, we were more than happy

to simplify. Baseball barbecue. It kind of separates it from our old podcast, which was, you know, the Cesspitus family barbacast. And now they're very two different entities. And that's how we want it. Because this new podcast actually sounds good and is produced by a professional. That's nice. And the first episode was all about baseball brawls and probably something we have in common because I've been doing all these old breakdowns.

And a lot of the requests I get are brawls. I didn't get to listen to your episode yet. But do you highlight, do you just talk in general or do you highlight a few? Yeah, we picked our top five. And I have to say, we tweeted out a video of, of the fifth one. I don't know if you've done a breakdown of this one. I know you've,

I'm sure you've done the Yankees Orioles. No. And of course, Batista. The one you're talking about is when the two batters in the box. Yes. So I did all the research necessary for a breakdown on that. There's not enough video components for me to think it's worthwhile.

So I'd have to like put a picture on the screen because it's the mad Hungarian. It's only like a minute. Yeah. It's not long. Did you guys research what happened? So for anyone that doesn't know, I mean, I did like three. These old breakdowns, they take me. forever because I do all this research.

I had like three hours worth on this. And then I decided like, I don't know if I can put this together in two minutes. The Mad Hungarian, Jake, I tweeted him at you because he would start with his back to the pitcher and then bang his glove together like the wild thing. And then turn. So this batter on the,

who's the batter? Bill Madlock. Bill Madlock. Bill Madlock would step into the box and wait. And then he'd have to wait for the mad Hungarian to do his thing. So he's, as soon as the mad Hungarian, turned around and got on the mound, he stepped out just to fuck with him. So then the Mad Hungarian, he steps back in the box.

Mad Hungarian turns his back again and does his whole like intimidating thing. The dude steps out again and the um and the ump is now mad at everyone like get in the box. Get in the fucking box. So he pitches. He just calls it a strike. And then he gets ejected. And then the next guy is like comes up. It's crazy.

But it all stems from fucking with the Mad Hungarian. That one was wild. Yeah, so that was one that, like, I did not immediately come to mind that we figured we had to highlight. But yeah, it was just, it was the whole thing. It was, we did some specific ones and just like everything we like about it. We talked to a Miragher, which was fun. And then this week, we did a home run derby episode. So that is obviously something that very, you know, red meat, as they say, pretty obvious.

But we're pretty excited to, you know, talk about home runs. So great, greatest home run derby, who comes to your mind, Treve? like if you think a home run performance I think everyone's going to have like one's going to go to the top do you have a guy? I'll be honest with you. I love the home run derby.

But yeah, obviously everyone's going to think Josh Hamilton and then you have to always tell people he didn't even win the home and derby Justin or no, friend of the pod hold of the home run derby. Wow. But I'll tell you what I love. I'll tell you what I love.

And you guys like people are going to talk crap about him but he is my buddy. Ryan Braun put on a show. go. And the BP pitcher for Ryan Braun was none other than our agent, Nes Bilello. What? Yeah.

So, um, Nes. Big game for Nes Bolelo. Yeah. So he's, he's, he's great. Uh, been an agent for a long time. He's at CAA now. But he started out, he's a baseball player. He played in the Braves organization and was like a youth coach. and had like a facility and all this stuff

and parlayed that into becoming an agent. But like I don't know if a lot of people know that. He's out there. He throws the best BP, like the best BP. I think I got drafted as high as I did because when we would do these workouts for teams, like he would throw me BP and just knew, he just knew how to find the barrel.

That's what he did. Those are my favorite stories of the home run derby. Is the BP people. We went back. So I went back and. compiled data on the last 10 years, just since 2010, of every single thrower in the derby and can't just found some great stuff. Did you know Yadier Molina through to Matt Holiday in the derby? Like he was his thrower and he wore a glove. He's like, has like a glove in his glove hand.

How are the Cardinals letting that happen? Yeah. The catchers always throw the best BP. I know, but not the guy former catchers for the best BP. Not your peak Yadier-Malina. That's great. Another good one is Brian Dozier gets in the derby. It's at target field in front of everyone. And then he picks his brother,

which is awesome, except that Clay couldn't find the strike zone. It was really tough over at Derby. Like we had last year, Matt Chapman's dad, oh, just totally ruined. winning it for him. Like that was cool. But, you know, there's also a long history of picking your dad and then winning. Canoe Harper, right? To do some decent BP. Obviously, Jose Canoe

was pretty good. It's such a better story. Like, I would rather have my dad out there and like, we have that forever than like some random like dude that just those good BP. Like that I told Dozier that. I told Chappie that too after I was like, dude, who gives a shit? Like you're in the homer and derby and your fucking dad was throwing you BP on like a huge stage. It's a, No, that's so true. Josh Hamilton's guy. Go ahead. There was a story on Josh Hamilton's guy.

And this is from my memory of back then. But I believe he always started BP with just having Josh Hamilton like hold his bat out, like vertically. And he would throw the first ball and just nail the bat. Like right there. It's like, where do you want it? And he would hold his bat still. And he would just hit it. And then they would go from there.

I think Hamilton's guy was his American Legion coach in high school or something crazy like that. Yeah. Some high school coach. Yeah. Yeah. we had Hoskins on who was in the derby in D.C. and, like, did low-key super well. And he was talking about how he picked, like,

this Philly's infield coordinator who he had taken hours and hours and hours of ground balls with in the minor leagues. And he was like, yeah, like, this guy means something to me, and he throws the best BP. Yeah. So I, but I get Trevor's point, but at the same time, it's like,

if you want to win, you do kind of have to have that part of it nailed down. Well, now that you win. Now you, now that you win a million dollars, it's like, all right, well, maybe dad, you know, old Pete Alonzo, right, making more from the derby. Dad, why don't you stay on the couch and I'll give you $250K instead. Dad starts spiking one because they're in negotiations over how much he gets out of it, you know? That'd be funny. Yeah, what percentage do you give to dad for throwing beeps?

If you win a million, I don't know. It's got to be. Got to be a big, a big chunk of that. Well, that's exciting. But yeah, so Homer Derby is fun. So that's, so you obviously should go check on. A lot of, a lot of Griffey talk. Oh, yeah.

I'll tell one quick Griffey thing that I absolutely loved was he wins the Derby in 94. And in 98, the Derby's in Cores and the Mariners like are playing the night before the Derby in Texas. And Griffey's like, I don't want to do the Derby. Like, I'm going to be tired. I don't want to do it. He comes out. for the workout day in 1998,

the morning, Monday morning, and gets booed by the fans for not doing the derby. Changes his mind an hour before the derby asks if he can be in it. They say yes,

and then he wins it. But none of the fans, none of the fans knew that he was going to be in it. So could you imagine, like Ken Griffey's the most popular baseball player of all time? And you're some random schlub in Denver

coming to the derby. And Griffey's like, not going to do it. And you're like, oh, whatever. And then they announce him. And then he wins. For the intros? Yeah, that's amazing.

That's pretty cool. Who got booted? Did someone get booted? Because that person could be like, well, I would have won. But Griffey took my spot. No, because back in the day, they, like, they fluctuated the number of it every year. Like, they didn't really care. It was just kind of like who wants to be in it.

So they just went from 9 to 10. Do you like the new format? I think the best change baseball's made recently is the home run derby change of the format. Dude, it is. It makes a huge. difference. And going back and watching the old ones, even watching the Hamilton one, which is amazing. Like I timed it how long Hamilton's round takes from first pitch to his 10th out when he hits 28 homers. It took 22 minutes. Vlad Jr. hit 29 homers in like four minutes.

Like four real minutes. And it's like, well, okay, this is obviously better. Like there's no, I mean, there are elements of it that, you know, maybe it builds with with more breaks in between. but it's so much better. Now it's undeniably a better system. Trev, who would have been your home run derby pitcher? Would it have been Ness? I don't know.

Dude, a million dollars at stake is a lot different than just like, hey, let's run the home run derby and see what happens. Like a fucking trophy back in the day. A million dollars is different. I probably would have had Nes,

yes. Or like, you know, someone I was comfortable with, like, in the organization, but... You know what I want?

I want someone to choose their son to pitch them. Like Cecil Fielder has 14-year-old prince throwing BBs down the middle. That's when that happens, I'll be excited. Imagine winning with your 14-year-old son pitching you. That'd be awesome.

Well, dream. Yeah. That's a dream I have just in my dream bank. I will say I was on the back burner in 2012. They approached me. Like, hey, there's a possibility you could be in the homeowner. Because I, like, was going off at that point. That was the year.

was in in Kansas City. That would have been horrible. That's a tough place for a home run derby. Fuck. But what happened? Did they, did someone just snag the spot trap and you didn't get it? I was like backup, backup, backup, you know, like, yeah. I was scrubbed, dude.

I was just average. You know that. Prince Fielder, Joey Bats, Trumbo at his peak, Beltron on the Cardinals, Carlos Gonzalez, McCutcheon, Kemp, and Kano. This is year Kanoe hit zero and got booed. Didn't he win the next year? Where would you have finished? Where would you have finished in that derby?

He won the year before in Arizona. I don't know, man. I think a home of derby, it's not always about the best or even the strongest guy. Some guys can just put him in the seats in BP. Anyone that wins, like, you know, judge can win this every single year,

but he's not going to do it again. You want to click million dollars. 2012, Trevor Plouffe, from the start of the season to June 15, 44 games, 39 starts, 14 yabos. Don't come out here with your scrub lines because I'll out scrub you every day. Sounds like a backup, backup, backup, backup home run derby contestant to me. Can I add this with a Wikipedia page on this year's Derby? Yeah, I add it.

Trevor Plouffe. There is a subtitle for Robinson Cano Boone Bucon controversy. I'm going to add Trevor Plouf participation controversy. Was considered. Was considered.

Turned it down. Oh, shit. I wish I was a better baseball player. Trust me. I would love to be in. That's everyone on this podcast. All of us could probably say the same thing. Yeah, what are you talking about?

You literally played in the major leagues and made billions of dollars. like I come on Trevor you would have liked our so we we did a podcast with these fellows at winter meetings and we're off the rails the whole time like not even not even a cute podcast like we're off the rails like no it was like oh boy like can it's like unlistinable can we air this to other people because I don't think they'd want to listen to this we got into each other's like scouting reports when we played baseball and we're like we're the biggest losers on the planet but I think I can spin it. in this now. Jake mentioned he played D3 ball. Jordan mentioned he had a player. Do you want to guess at what the scouting reports would be on Jake and Jordan? If not, I get it.

But Jake is such a slime ball, I want you to guess. Jake has to do. I don't even really understand the question. What position do you have, do we already give that away? Give me quick position. Do you have a pretty good position? Jake, let me send you. I'm going to send you my, I'm going to send you my perfect game profile.

Nice. Please do. So you're a pitcher, obviously. He's a sidewinder, which Jake Storyellie also hates sidewinder. I don't know how tall you are. How tall are you? 6-2. Yeah.

So you're just an average. My scouting report on you is you're an average white righty, and that's what every, if you have that guy in the mound, you're licking your chops. Wow. That's what we would say. AWR, baby. Let's go get it. Time to hit.

A.W. Rinder. Dude. Give me the white Rides all the time. But that was all of your twins' teammates. Do you feel bad? I trust me, dude. You guys probably love the 2011,

12, 13 twins because we were horrible. You just like that baseball. You won more games than I thought you could have. Yes, we were a pitch-to-contact team in the air. every single other team was let's miss some bets we didn't believe in that i was at third base terrified for my life lucky you a lot i was gonna say that really worked that well for for the infillard treb jake did you get what i say you yes i did i have your profile and it's um real quick trevis a w are a real acronym that gets used by baseball players yes that's awesome who did you first hear say that

I don't know. You just, especially here in the minor leagues because, you know, an average white righty, they're going to be around the plate and have control. And like, you feel a lot better than when you have, you know, some other. Average Dominican Ritey. Now we're in trouble. I mean, there's guys that you don't know where the ball's going. The average white Ritey is usually did.

And I, and so average means height, like regular delivery, and then like you throw 88 to 92. Okay. That's what that means. Twins baseball. If you're tall, you're not an average white ready. If you throw hard, you're not an average white ready. If you, a submarine guy, you're not an average white ready.

It has to do with height, skin color. Honestly, like, I'm still adjusting to Jose Burrios. Like, when he came up, I was like, holy shit. What is this twins pitcher doing? This is not what I signed up for when I became a twin fan. This is crazy. I love him and people come at me and I'm like, this guy's an ace and they're like, no he's not. I'm like,

I think he really is. Oh, I love Rios. He could really be, he's going to get better too. All right. And we have a Jake scouting report for Jake. And also Jake, Cespite's Jake, not Jumbo Jake. We sell Jake sucks hats, which I'm sure you've seen.

Oh, Travis We're wearing one. So many people named Jake buy this hat. Like every day I see an order come through and I see, oh, who bought it? And then it's a guy named Jake. And it makes me laugh every time. Like there's so many Jake's wearing Jake sucks at. I might get one now.

Full price. Yeah. It's a movement. Pitches from low three quarter slot. Whippy arm action in the back. Loose arm projects for more velocity. Kind of true. Is this last line one out of the,

seven slider showed solid shape? What? One to seven. That's on the clock. Oh, it's on the clock. It's listed as a fraction and I was like, that's arch. One to seven. Are you lefty?

One to seven. One to seven. I guess I'm pulling down. No, that would be lefty. That makes no sense. That makes no sense. Are you seven to one? And that's from the pitcher's perspective.

That's one. From the pitcher's perspective, yes. This is perfect game, so you can't trust their reports at all. No. From if you're watching, like, the regular feed, you know, that's a slider. Yeah. That's a nice slider, Jake. Thank you.

I appreciate that. Can you read the last line, though? I don't want to. Excellent student. Excellent student, a.k.a. I could have told you that. That's what they. They didn't have that on.

They didn't have that on Mike Trout's page. That's all I'm saying. Excellent student. Baseball. Well, thank you guys for hanging out with us. And congrats on the new show and everything that is going on. Can I say one thing before we go? Yeah, please.

You guys are now part of the ringer. Who I've seen Eddie Vedder go on the pods there. and if you guys don't have Eddie Vedder on your podcast, within the next calendar year, I'm going to consider the whole thing of disappointment. So, no pressure. Challenge accepted. No pressure. Didn't you meet Eddie Vedder, Treve?

It's not about me. We're not talking about me right now. Sounds like it's about you. Sounds like about you. And if you do just have him on, I freaking love that guy. If you get him on, ask him if he remembers when he met Trevor Ploof. I will. Or just what he remembers about Trevor Ploof.

Oh, look. He's going to be like, is that Josh Willing? him. It's an Eddie Vedder sign. He's going to be like he was almost in the 2012 homeruner derby. Have I smoked a cigarette with Eddie Vedder in a Kansas city hotel?

Maybe. Maybe. But again, not about Trevor. It's not about Trevor. It's about Eddie. All right. We'll let you guys go.

Thanks for coming on and talking about us. Educating us in D3 and Dominican baseball. Appreciate you. Of course. And there you have it. The Trevor Plouf's steroids allegations are put to rest. Are they confirmed, I guess? Yeah.

It's confirmed that you did grow. I know. I told you I was a cleanest guy in baseball where I was. And now I'm just found out. During this episode, we learned that I took steroids and I am a spy. Yeah. Yeah. But do you think I really could get suspended from baseball right now?

I think that'll be great. It's like a really, we should probably talk about that. I don't know. I got to find some obscure rule to break. Yeah. Should I bet on baseball? Yes. Yeah, there you go.

Bet on a game and see what they're... Dude, I haven't bet on a game. I've never bet on baseball, but now, like, obviously I can, but I'm not officially retired. I know what's the rules. I can't. Fuck. I'm pretty interesting.

Yeah. I don't really want to get banned for life from, like, a sport that I'm covering, so that's probably a bad idea. But it feels like 50 games, I could take that. Yeah. The ban for life stuff is tough. I'm going to go over the rules and try to break something minor and see if I Probably wouldn't be banned from life, right?

It's because you're not banning on a game you're in and you could show that you could show like your one gambling ticket. I don't know, man. I'm very interested to see if there's a rule that you can break that even though you're not on an active roster or belong to any club, but you're not officially retired that they could like punish you in a way. Very interested. Let's just keep this on the D.I.

anybody listening to this, don't be spilling this news out because we got to, it's got to be like a surprise. No, the talking baseball listeners are very, very kind. They won't share anything that we say. Tweet at the Cespitas guys, tell them, uh, thank you. Hope they learn something from the baseball podcast gods. Yeah, they had the second best baseball podcast in the land. According to our personal, our biased metrics. Bias metrics. Cloof did steroids, five stars. I'd take that review.

Five stars, baby. Five stars, baby. See you guys. Jake sucks.