Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 173 | Voicemails: Your Biggest Fears

Episode Date: July 20, 2020

Baseball is BACK this week, so it's time for you guys to call in and let Jomboy, Jake, and Trevor know what your biggest fears are for the 2020 season! Do the Cardinals and DBacks have enough depth? Do the Cubs have enough quality arms? Will San Francisco call up Joey Bart? Can Joe Girardi do miracle work with the Phillies' pen? What if the Yankees have to face Houston again? Do either of them have enough arms? Will the Rockies lose Arenado? Should the Rangers be worried about Willie Calhoun? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome back to talking baseball. The season is coming this week, so it's time to hear everyone's biggest fears. Let's do it. What's going on, everybody? We hope you had a fantastic weekend. Welcome to Talking Baseball. My name's Jimmy sitting right next to me in his fantastic floral shirt is Jake. And we got Trev coming to you from California wearing a Jake Sucks hat.

We're ready to talk some baseball. We're ready to hear from you guys about what you're scared. about. Jake, what are your biggest fears? Yeah, I was going to say, good morning. And if there's a specialty episode of mine, it's fears. Every day, every day, just looking at them. No, it's just death for me because I think it all ends. But outside of that, I'm pretty good. Had a nice weekend. Trevor, how are you? I'm doing excellent. I got up early this morning, got myself a cup of coffee, put my Jake Sucks hat on, and I'm ready for the day. Yes. Those hats are crazy.

Luke bought one. And my dad's, like, biggest running gag that he doesn't understand his gag because he steals our hats immediately. If we buy a hat, my dad will put it on his head. Right. And then my dad would run and Jake sucks out at the beach all day. It's pretty funny to be like walking down a family town boardwalk

with two dogs in the hat just as Jake said. It's a real nice hat. One of my buddies, his sister married a Jake, and the dad doesn't really like him. not a big fan. So he's getting a Jake Sucks hat with intent, which is the other side of that. Yeah. So, I mean, my- People helping people. Mine was with intent as well. Like, what do you mean? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Really put the hat to its name. Want to hear about some people who don't

suck? Yes. Okay. Well, we start off with James Dr. Yes. And, uh, hang tight because we got a lot of new patrons that we got a shout out. Harry Lewis, Sarge, Dan Hunto, Nathan McCray, James Nagan-Gast. I feel like I read these already. Vinny Tran, Chris Petrel, Petralisi, Michael Sowey, T.C. Gantry, Joseph Hosford, Brad Urban Owitz, Roger Abrill, Mike Parchinski, Omar, Cody Hamill, Jody, Jack McCutcheon, Marcus McCann, Drew Maurer, Andy B, Emily Sheldon, Stanley Bloom, Chris D'Amico, Denise Lewis, Simon S. B. de Prince 23. Johnston Gray.

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BPD told us we have a ton of voicemails. Thank you to everyone who called in. We asked you to send in your biggest fears. You got us, Treve? It's on your heart, Trevor. I'm good, man. All right. Got a lot of stuff in my head.

I got a lot of stuff in my head. Okay. Yeah, something happened. You need to get something off your chest. Well, first I saw. We had a McCutchen, a McCutcheon, a Macan, and a Mower back to back to back in the patrons. That's interesting. They're friends. Yeah, they are good. I think Maurer was spelled different. M-A-I-E-R. That's mayor? Mayor? Mayer? Yeah. All right. Everything's

great, guys. I've just, I got a lot of things I'm thinking about. It's good. What was going into a baseball season? What was your fear? Was it you oriented? Was it team oriented? Were you just like, hey, I don't want to get off to, you know, I don't want to end April hit in 170? Is it You know, I don't want the team to start off with a big losing streak like that one year you had it. What were the fears coming into a season? I mean, virtually none. You're just excited. Like, the season starts everyone's optimistic, okay?

Like, the fears start a weekend if you're one for 30, you know, stuff like that. But, you know, opening day, you're just stoked to be out there. It's going to be different this year, obviously. but yeah I don't think I was ever fearful of an opening day I was just more excited yeah yeah and I think our original attempt we did this with our talking yanks podcast originally and it was it was kind of supposed to be the stuff you don't say out loud like maybe in yankees past years it would be the like you know I would never say this but I'm a little worried about that Yankees rotation luckily they went out and got that cold guy

But that was kind of the origination of it. So excited to see what the people are bringing to the table. Yeah, because a lot of this we might not know. Same thing. We asked for your storylines. You told us. We didn't know some of them. Let's go straight.

We got two Cardinal voicemails. We're going to do back to back. Then we're going to see what they are. I'm a Cardinal fan again. Didn't do much in the offseason, kind of banking on young guys. Lost Ozuna, who, you know, he's okay. But he was pretty good as our assistant. far as our offense is concerned.

So, you know our pitching and defense is good, but worried about the bats. Thanks, guys. Keep it up. Love your stuff. All right. Hey, this is Brandon from Columbia, Missouri, and I'm a huge Cardinals fan, and the most, like, scary part about this season is definitely offensive consistency. Over last season, when we were winning a lot near the end, we kind of found our stride

with Goldschmidt and DeYoung and Wong and Wong. we're doing their parts. But, I mean, this year, it's going to be the same thing where if we can't find offense, we're not going to be able to get out of the NL Central, which is probably the toughest division right now. So thank you. And I love the pot. All right. Two Cardinals fans calling in.

Thank you very much. What was it, Brandon? And I don't know if we got the first guy's name or I missed it. But, I mean, we kind of said this, right? What was it? Zane or Zane. Zane. Okay.

This is what we kind of said. They don't have like their top heavy. They have a lot of role players on paper, it seems at least. So I think it's a fair thing. Their hitting was they were 23rd in batting average last year. They were 24th in home runs last year, which again, I mean, you're starting to get into some bottom tier teams offensively.

And when we talked about the Cardinals, we said what a good well-run organization they are. I think Goldschmidt, it. I gave you my lock that his batting average will be over 265 or whatever it was, so you don't have to worry about that. You're welcome. Carpenter is a big question mark. He's 34 now. Does he bounce back? And is he Matt Carpenter, the guy that entered MVP races, or is he an older Matt Carpenter? And that's what it is. Hopefully he can stay a little healthier, de-hching. They need a young guy to step up. I know,

Treve, you've mentioned Tyler O'Neill a couple times. He's a decent prospect. Tommy Edmund, can he repeat some of the stuff he started doing last year? But they also need those guys to step up defensively. So a guy like Harrison Bader, who can be a special game-changer defensive player, you're not looking at him at the bottom of your lineup saying, like, ah, we need more offense. Now you're starting to hack into your defense to give your team more offense, and that's not what you want.

I think you, I mean, as an organization, you kind of have to pick what kind of a team you're going to be. I mean, there's very few teams that can go out there and run all three offense, defense, and pitching out there. So clearly this is a team that's focused on pitching. And then the other two get a little wishy-washy. Defensively, they're pretty good, I would say. I don't know if they're elite defensively. They're pretty good. And I'm looking at the offensive side. It's an interesting mix of some very old guys and some very young guys. So, like, I agree with you, Jake. Like, they're going to have to have some of the young guys step up.

I think Goldschmidt will be a force in the middle of the lineup. I think one guy that kind of stands out to me, like, hey, like, if this guy has a good year, they could really go, like, offensively, is our boy Dex. Like, get him going a little bit. You know, maybe he relishes this 60-game season, gets a little spark going. And then you kind of just rely on that pitching stuff to take you. focus on scoring early. That'll be big for this team. Get out to a lead and let your pitchers do the thing.

I think if they're playing catch-up all the time, it's going to be a tough year. I like their squad for like a playoff series, but not a full season. Like, because if they have everyone, they have the speed and the role players and, you know, playing small ball, like I think it works. There's no DH anymore.

So the style of play in the regular season is just going to be like hit. But again, we don't know what's going to win this season, pitching or hitting. thinks pitching. I think pitching, but we'll see. But I think those are, it's a pretty broad fear, too, just our offense. It's a big one. That's a big one. Yeah. All right. Let's go to the next one. John Boy, Jake, Whalen calling from Nashville to see. My biggest concern is about my Chicago Cubs, and it is that our pitching is going to collapse. Hopefully U. Darvish can be like second half you Darvish and hit groups can, you know, keep that ERA low and be decent like he has been.

But the other three, Lester, Kintana, Chatwood, I'm not sure about them. And our bullpen's not great either. So give me thoughts. Thanks. All right. Thank you for calling in. Cubs pitching. Youngblood calling in.

Love it. Harsh. Harsh. He's harsh. I love that. Harsh. I don't know. What do you think?

I'm not as down on their pitching as everyone else's. I don't know why. I like Hendricks. He didn't even name Hendricks. We like Hendricks. He's their opening day. He's getting the pill. Good for him.

There was a nice graphic going around the other day. That was first time opening day starters. I think he was one of them. Hendricks is good. Why isn't you getting the opening day start? I don't know, man. The U. Darvish thing in Chicago has been kind of weird. There was a period there where he was bad.

And then he turned it on. So like I've said, I love you when he's right. I love all you when you're right. But Darvish can be nasty. You kind of got to see what you you're going to get this year. Hopefully for them it's the good one. And yeah, it's just what's old man Lester going to get you? And then after that, man, I think Kintana hurt his thumb doing dishes.

So that's tough. Whoa. He's normally as stable as they come. Yeah, he got a laceration on his left thumb doing dishes at his home in Miami. So it'll be cool when the real story comes out. Just a bucket full of water in the sink. He reached in and got attacked by knives. Maybe he dropped a ring in the disposal or whatever.

Okay. And then reaching to get it and his wife turned it on. The garbage disposal? We got theories. I'm going to guess it was an avocado because that's the number one hand injury during cooking. But that's not dishes. That would make more sense than dishes. Anyway

Our caller mentioned that you ended the year good last year. He did. In his last 13 games, he had a two-something ERA. Yeah, he found it. With a 612 OPS against. So, I mean, hey, he's only going to get 12 starts. So just have another stretch like that. But this is the thing, though, it's like not every team is just going to be full up with five horses. Like, nobody is.

So, like, you know, if you're looking at your team's rotation, and you got a Hendrix on top, and you got a U. and you got a Quintana backing him up. And then you have John Lester in like the four spot. It's not a bad rotation. Like that's okay. Like that's not something that you're like, shit. Like we're going to lose because our rotation is bad.

It's like that's what most teams are going to have, stuff like that. You're not going to have just five absolute aces. You're not going to have three absolute aces. Very few teams have that. And if they do, then you're a World Series contender right off the bat. So I pump the brakes, our young stud out there. Is he from Chicago? No, Nashville. He's Nashville. He had that country tang going. Whalen?

I like your enthusiasm, but just know, like, your team's set up. Your team set up pretty decently. You know, I know we all want that, like, just horse, horse, horse. It's just not feasible. The bullpen freaks me out more than the starters. I would say that, too. Yeah. Lester did have a bad year last year. Like, he had like 10 games where it was like, well.

Yeah, but he's got a super sick boat, though, so. Okay. You know, that makes up for a lot. Lester boat. Okay. It's called the left-hander. It's pretty legit. Takes it on the Chicago River.

Yeah. I die that green during St. Patrick's Day. Yeah. I had my first ever kiss on the Chicago River. Wow. That's like super romantic. Well, we were in fifth grade and we pecked on the lips. That's early.

Oh, yeah. Fucking young Zach Efron over there. We're kissing. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty good. I have a first kiss story, but it's not. It's not for now.

It is Fears episode if you want to share your first kiss, check. Sixth grade. Sixth grade. You guys are early. It's just a peck, bro. You just got to get it out of the way. All right. Yeah.

All right. Second kiss was, well, next. It cost you a lot of money. That's second kiss. Hey, what's up, John? guys, my biggest fear is a giant fan is that by the end of the season, Joey Bart hasn't caught one inning. I think it's important for us to play our young guys because we have a bunch of old guys on our team. So, yeah, bye.

It started off when he said Giants and fears. And I was like, oh, no, oh, no. And then he actually, it's a great point. And we've talked about this because, you know, it seems like the perfect season. to call up young guys and let him figure things out. But from the back end, the GM side of baseball, it's actually you don't want to lose service time for a 60 game set. You know, like GM's brain, it actually makes more sense

to just play the aging vet and not waste service time of a young kid. So I don't know what the deadline is where they can call barred up and it doesn't affect his service time at all. They should do that and let him catch. I mean, the guys had a great name, Joey Bart. The guys had 80 a bat to double a. Oh, never mind then. So look, you know you want to see these guys,

especially when your team is projected to finish in the seller. But, yeah, A, like Jim said, you don't want to waste your service time when you know your team's not going to be very good. Obviously, you want to get them experience at the big league level, but the way the CBA is set up right now and the way they can, you know, mess with service time, I'd be shocked to see this guy

up there at the beginning of the year or anywhere close to it. Is he on the 40-man roster? He's on the 60. He's on the 60 man. And he's a kid's a huge prospect. He's a top-10 prospect in baseball right now. Yeah, you don't want to see him this year.

I didn't know in the nicest way. I didn't know he didn't even have a full season at double-life. The only thing is he's 23 years old. Yeah, he's a college kid. It's time to go. So, like, as a player, I'm like, fuck yeah, get this guy up there because he's, I don't know if he's earned it yet, per se. Well, all the reports from camp have been glowing, from Kapler, from everyone saying he's been awesome.

So I don't know. I mean, Posey's out, but you don't want to mess with service time and you don't want to mess with him as a player. He's hadn't even had a full season on double A. What's going to make this guy really mad is they probably are going to go out and bring somebody else in, too. There's so many catchers out there. There's being a bunch of guys released right now, they're probably going to bring somebody in. You guys don't...

You don't like the Brantley Heinemann in platoon? I love Heinemen. That's my boy. I also love Brantley. He's my boy. So it's tough for me to say that, but I feel like they're going to bring somebody in. But I mean, shoot, maybe, maybe...

Maybe they're looking at it like this. He's 23. Get him up there. Yeah. We want him ready when we're ready to compete, which is I don't know when. Longoria gave him a lot of praise. Longoria said,

Joey Bart, I think, is the closest that we have in terms of breaking through at the big league level and being an impact player out of the shoot. So Longo's on his side. Then I'm all in because Longo's the best. So if Longo says you're good, he rarely says that about anybody. Trust me.

I'm serious. He's not at once to just give out compliments, just whatever. Like if he says it, he means it. So good for that. Good for Bart. All right. So pay attention to Joey Bart.

I like that. Didn't even know that storyline at all. Next. Pennsylvania. Hey, this is Anthony from Pennsylvania. I don't know if those are not worked. My biggest fear for the Philadelphia Phillies is the bullpen. We lost Sir Anthony Dominguez for the year David Robertson looks to not be returning.

So the only good bullpen armor is Hector Nairis. I don't know how good that is. I know Joe Jordy's good with the bullpen. That's a fear. I would say the rotation, but at least we got Noah and Zach Wheeler. I hope we spent the hours legit, but yeah, it's the bullpen. Thank you. I know I've done a lot of talking about how Joe Girardy's good with the bullpen and stuff.

I need to come down from it a little bit because Joe Girardi always had Mariano, Soriano, David Robertson, Batances, like really, really good arms. But he was good at scheduling rest and keeping them healthy and fresh for the postseason. I don't think they don't have any good. good guys. Trevor, these are you Frillies. I'll give you the honor. I mean, I don't want to sit here and just kind of like talk crap.

It's very hard for me to do that. I do agree that the bullpen is not a strong point on this team. You know, especially with Sir Anthony out. The guy's nasty and they needed him. And he's out. So yeah, we have Hector and he's kind of along those lines like when I would talk about a Colomé, a guy that he could be really nasty, but he also kind of, isn't that like clean ending type guy.

So he can do it. He could be a force out there. He's got a disgusting splitter. But I don't know if I'd want him like being my guy, my guy. So you have to rely on somebody else stepping up. We talked about Nick Povetta before coming out of the rotation. He's a big tall dude that could probably add two or three miles an hour when he's in the bullpen. He'd have to make it a leap forward.

Tommy Hunter's just cut back. That's all he pitched in one of the inter-squad games. He's the guy that could do it. He's had success in the back end of a bullpen before. Another guy that I'm kind of like, this is a great storyline. I'm not going to say he's going to be an impact arm for them is Robert Stock. I don't know if he has no his story. He was a catcher.

Then he got released. And then he was just like throwing bullpens in a park and would put them on Twitter and he was throwing like 100 miles an hour and team signed him. Watch his name? Robert Stock. There's a guy in the A's who just did that too. He just made the team. Oh, I saw that.

Yeah, so that was pretty cool. A lot of nice head of lettuce on that guy. I'll look his name up later. And something back to adding miles per hour. Kyle Hendricks, our guy, was hitting 94 on the gun the other day. He's a crecy guy. So baseball's just becoming a disgusting sport now. I don't like that.

I don't like it. I'm over Kyle Hendricks now. I want him throwing 88 miles an hour and carving people up. All right. So now we're mad at the Cubs. So sorry, going back to our guy, Whalen. Yeah. Okay.

start with something nice. Hector Narris, his stats are better than I thought they'd be. He had one bad year in 2018. Outside of that, they're pretty nice. But yeah, I mean, your fingers crossed for a couple dudes to step up and then even a trade deadline. And if that's our nice words, then, yeah, you should be concerned. Has this dude stock?

I'm not going to be able to get, I love these stories. Has he pitched in the minors last year? Trevor, is he going from... He's been in the big leagues. He's been in the big leagues. I think he was with the Padres last year. Yes. Oh, okay.

I want to say he was of the Padres last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So it's a, yeah, that's an interesting story. But, yeah, I agree. Like this bullpen is not a strong suit. He was good in 2018. Oh, stock, yeah. Yeah.

Want him to be the new Jansen, catcher to close her. Jordan Williams is the guy in the A's who did it. So if you're into that kind of thing. Cool. All right. Another thing on the Phillies, and I've said this multiple times. They really don't have anybody coming up, like an arm coming up. So. D-Rob, man. He's the big, uh, you know. They need him back. He's the call up. He's the trade.

Just keep it, keep it alive until he comes back. Maybe the storyline here is with all these hitters and Alex, uh, boom on the way and guys like that, you know, bring in some pitching, Phil's. Can I get my Yankee hate out just real quick? Oh, you sure. Uh, the next voicemails about Yankees. Well, this is a segue because you were talking about Gerardi in the bullpen. Same thing with Joe Tori and being a great manager, blah, blah, blah. Look at the teams. Uh-oh. Yeah, but I mean, look at the Mariners in O-1.

Like, look at, look at the, look at the, this. This Yeti, shout out Yeti. But, Trev, look at the Tigers. Cup could manage the Yankees. Look at what Brad Auspist did with the Tigers. Like, there's been. Wasn't the same thing. Why, I'm just saying there's been.

tons of great teams put together. Very, have we ever seen... Four or five Hall of Famers on the team? Come on. That's anybody to manage that team. All I'm saying is good teams have been put together before. Not those good teams go to five of, go to like five of seven World Series. It's a classic coach conversation. I mean, are you going to send that back at Phil Jackson? Are you a Phil Jackson hater?

I mean, look at his team. Kobe Bryant and Shaquillo, Neil, and L.A. And that's all I needed to know. That's all I needed to know. I don't, I don't, I believe there are some guys that are equipped to manage superstars. Doesn't make them a good coach. It just means, makes them the right coach. But when, well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, when the Yankees did their stretch and they went to six of eight World Series,

like, that's before they became the super pick up everyone. Like, that's before they got, like, let's go get Sheffield, let's go get a brady, let's go get Giambi, let's go get Randy Johnson. Like, the dynasty is built on homegrown. players that became Hall of Famers. Mariano wasn't a free agent. Joe Tori has nothing to do with that. Literally zero to do with that.

So you don't think coaches get any credit for molding players? I do think coaches do, but I don't think a guy like Joe Tori did. Save it for the offseason. Managers don't. Baseball is bad. Managers aren't coaching you. They rarely say anything to you fundamentally. Like rarely. They don't want to step on their

coaches toes. Well, that's the position as a whole then. I'm just saying. You better never compliment a manager in this run of talking baseball because you think the manager has four or five Hall of Famers on his team I'm probably not going to say oh man they weren't Hall of Famers in 96 when it started

they were fucking young kids they were that good guys all right anyways hey what's up guys it's Eulias from New Jersey calling about my Yankees I'm not going to lie I know it sounds ridiculous but I am scared a bit scared about our starting rotation

Cole's going to be what he's going to be he's going to be a stud Tanaka is slightly dud prone and Paxon guys' like first inning, TBGBs, and I don't think you can expect or on or rely on Hap or Manti that much. And in a 162 game season, all of that's fine, but in a small sample size, makes me nervous. Besides that, I'm scared of the announcers still saying Torres' age every time he does something somewhat impressive. Thanks, guys.

Oh, yeah, that better stop. I'm over that. I hated it last year. The Yankees pitching, I mean, it's fair to say Garrett Cole is the only sure thing, but he's one of the best sure things in all baseball. Like, Paxton does have, he had a stretch last year. That was brutal. He has first inning lows.

Tanaka will give you a six earned run once every two months, basically. You know, he's not a lights out pitcher. He's more of a, he's going to grind and get you the innings and get you through the game. Keep it close. and in the playoffs, he's lights out. It's what Trevor just said. I mean, would it be awesome to have five Garrett Coles? Absolutely.

James Paxson has a two is a pretty nice ball player. Tanaka, go look at the resume and everything he's done, the whole body of work. I mean, Tanaka's a great number three, a great number three. As a number three, yeah. Tanaka's not great number two. And that's the biggest concern. The actual concern is injuries, which you can say with any team,

but we saw, you know, Tanaka took a line drive, to the head from Big Jeege and Carlos Stanton, and then J.Hap became the third starter, which Jayhap has had a very nice career himself. Last year was a bad year, and you could point at juice balls and some bad luck and things like that. But then you start getting into some young guys, Jordan Montgomery. He's coming off the Tommy John surgery, and then you're going to have a fifth guy who's either a rookie, Clark Schmidt, Mike King type, or someone like Johnny Loisaga trying to give you four innings. So in that way, I think it's fair. But again, I mean, not a lot of teams have a sick starter that you're going to be impressed by.

So, Seve's missed. And Luis Severino's out for the season. And Domingo Hermann was the best pitcher last year, and he's out too. He fake retired. And then the only thing is, like Trev said with the Phillies, not having guys up, in summer camp, the Yankee and spring, the Yankees have, Clark Schmidt and King have gotten excitement. And you know me, I will never pencil them.

in as good. They haven't done it yet in the big leagues, but they have exciting arms to come, young arms that are about to come, which is very, very, very rare for the Yankees. They have not been great at developing pitching at all. I didn't leave that voicemail. I promised you that was not me. I've voiced that concern to you guys and you guys always just beat me down whenever I say anything bad about the Yankees. I mean, I don't think it's a, yeah, I think it's a genuine concern to have your Yankees fan. The only thing is, like you said, they got guys coming up. So you need someone like a Clark Schmidt to step up.

Who's the other guy? Michael King. Michael King. Like, they got guys coming up. And you know what? I'm going to go back to the Phillies. I said they don't have anybody coming up. Bryce Harper came out yesterday or two days ago,

and he was talking about, I think a guy named Howard. I got to look, don't quote me on that. And he said he wants him to break camp with the team. So a guy that I missed, but he's there. but the Yankees don't have that problem. What's that? Looks like his name is Spencer Howard. He was a non-raster invitee.

Yeah, so Bryce has been, you know, just complimenting him, you know, all summer. What are they? Video game buddies? And I think. I think the, when me and Jim do dig our heels in, it's A, because the Yankees added Garrett Cole. And B, not only is that Garrett Cole, but the Yankees' bullpen, which is special, and there's no arguing that. Yeah.

The Yankees haven't had the guy to. go out there and give them eight innings the past couple years. So if Garrett Cole can reset that bullpen every five days or so, that's just going to make the pitching staff as a whole stronger. The Yankees' only weakness, if you want to call that as like a defensive team. They're not a great defensive team. But they're going to bang and they're going to pitch and they're going to have a bullpen. Yeah.

They're obviously one of the best teams in the league. Last year they were top defensive infield with Gio at third. and DJ at short. They were like the worst in 2018. DJ at second. But they bumped up last year. I forget. They've improved.

They've improved. They went from bottom to best. But yeah, like Voight's not a stud at first base. Glaber has issues at short. And it's not on skill. It's just on concentration, really. How does Hixie grade out defensively with the advanced stats? I know, like personally, I think he's a great center field there.

I think really well. Well, really well. I mean, he's... Long stride, strong arm. Some guys, you just look at and you're like, that guy's a stud player, then you look at their defensive metrics, you're like, oh, wow, they're horrible.

No, I believe that's why Hicks has good war all the time. Yeah. Brian Dozier won a gold glove and had like negative defensive war or something like that. So whatever. Crazy. Back to Jeter. We had another Yankees one that I didn't group him by accident.

Hey, fellas. I have DVD. My biggest fear as a Yankee fan is seeing like the action. it seemed like the Astros and the ALCS and losing to them that would just break my heart I feel like this is a big year

it would be a huge disappointment if the Yankees didn't make it to the world theory and if they lost to the Astros I just might have to stop watching baseball start watching hockey or something I don't even know what was this guy's name? Take care

what was his name? I just felt some move down there Jimmy, Jake Trev BBV my biggest fear Didn't give us his name. Nameless. Smart move because I was going to tell him to go fuck himself. I got a little movement down there when I heard him say Yankees lose to the Astros.

That's a good fear. That is crazy. If that happens again, it's like vacation mode for it. It's like, okay, I'm going to take my two-week vacation with Katie. I'm putting the phone away. I'm out. And honestly, like, we'll probably have a vacation scheduled for early November. And I'll just be like, bump that forward, Katie.

as soon as the last outs made because I mean it's going to suck and it's a possibility. The Astros are still really, really good. They'll probably meet up in the playoffs again. If it happens again, I'll cry. That was a great fear. Thank you for calling. Thanks for not leaving your name, fuckface. What about this? What if we had

just four great teams going at it in the divisions, the A's end up winning the West, the Rays end up winning the East, and then you have the Astros and the Yankees in a one-game playoff, Cole versus Verlander. We've talked about that. Trev, I'm so,

I'm so, the weight of sadness and frustration and my Twitter feed, how bad it would be, if the Astros beat the Yankees in an LCS, I don't even want to go through them. Like I understand, like Red Sox fans, like the only way we're going to break the curse is if we go through the Yankees and that's our, fuck that. giving me an easy path. I don't even want to go through them because the feeling of that would suck.

If there's a Yankees – It's total possibility. If there's a Yankees Astros an elimination game, I mean, I'll be fine because I'll be so gummied up. Yeah. Like I'll – Hey, be careful, those gummies can turn to anxiety real quick in the wrong situation. That's the monster who's always on my back. What are we talking about?

Your Twitter feed, if that happened, Jim. Oh. I couldn't even imagine. Yeah, it's mute. All right, we got a lot more to get. go and we're running long. Here we go. Hey guys, big fan of the show. This is Eric Kildabrandt from Gilbert, Arizona. I am a Diamondbacks fan, and I was just going to express how worried I am about the Diamondbacks depths.

Obviously, their pitching isn't where it should be to compete with the Dodgers. Their bullpen is not very good. Their line is pretty good, but I just... Oh, I don't know what happened. see their depths like the Dodgers have, like the Brewers have, like the Phillies have. So I don't think that they can compete in the NOS at all even get a wild card. So I was just wondering what you guys think about how important depth is in the 60 game season. Thank you guys. Have a great issue day. I like that question. We have another DBEX one. We'll answer both.

But I like the depth. What's going on, guys? This is a DJ from Madison, Wisconsin. and I'm calling in to talk about my team, you guessed it, the Arizona Diamondbacks. Now my biggest fear for them is the back end of the starting rotation, not sustaining the success they had at the end of last season. I believe the top three of Madbone, Robbie Ray and Zach, the milkman gallon will deliver. But with Mike Leak opting out, there's a lot of unknowns between Luke Weaver coming off injury, Alex Young and Merrill Kelly building on their rookie seasons.

The team's got pieces to make a run, but it's dependent on some. and young arms and I'd love to hear what you guys think about it. Thanks. All right, so, I mean, the first one is just the back, the second one back into rotation, Merrill Kelly, Luke Weaver. I really don't know about that. Every team has that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, every team has it. Even the Yankees with Hap and Gumby, it's like, ah, we're not a sure thing. And the Diamondbacks, man, again, like this is almost a first world problem. I mean, some of the guys that were mentioned there, young Alex Young, my guy towards the end of last season, looked pretty good. I mean, Luke Weaver, Merrill Kelly, these are all dudes that you could kind of talk yourself into as year four before a season starts. So I wouldn't be so concerned about that. And up and down the pitching, I mean, even in their bullpen, Archie Bradley, Chaffin, Rondone,

Gera, Ginkle, like, this are nice for the Diamondbacks. I think lineup depth that we've looked at some teams' benches, like the Phillies, I think even like the Mets. a couple of these deep teams, obviously the Dodgers, and you look at the bench and you're like, okay, you know, there's either a young guy or a couple veterans, I'm struggling to buy into the bench right now in Arizona. I agree. I mean, look, any team is going to have these problems.

Like the depth is in the starting pitching depth, only a few teams are going to have those problems solved. That's just how it is. And then maybe their depth will turn into a, strength. If you let some of the guys have a season, you know, a couple of young guys come up and become good players, then all of a sudden your debt problems are solved. But yeah, as we're sitting here before the season, we don't know how it's going to play out. Like you can point to 28 teams and they all have the same

question about it. I'm like, how's the back end of my rotation going to hold up? How is my bench going to hold up in a 60 game of season? Nobody knows. I think I'm so so torn on the depth thing because at the start with expanded rosters, everyone was saying like, depth's going to be super important, which it always is. It always is. It finds a way. But after finding out that after two weeks, you're just 26 man and 40 man and it's completely normal, I don't know how much depth really matters because you don't have

time to rest guys and lean on other guys. Like, it's more, it's more health, staying healthy matters more than, because, you know, like last year the Yankees didn't stay healthy at all, but they had incredible depth to get them through the 162 and they won 100. or three games. But this year it's more like whoever stays healthy has a better shot. Don't get the corona. That's going to be one of the biggest things,

sore lines of the year. Who's going to get the coronavirus in a bad time? Yeah. And then your depth comes into play. It's, again, it's just one of these weird things. Look at the players they lost. Like, there's some guys you know. It's Gerard Dyson, Wilmer Flores, who was actually good.

Taiwan Walker, Harano, Alex Avila, they're all, you know, Steven Sousa Jr. Go check out Seekins with Trevor Ploose. Suzot. Love Susspot. But again, these guys brought in Marte and Madbom.

Like, the D-Backs should be better. Yeah. I also don't think we gave Robbie Ray, like we talked about we were profiling the West Division or West Region, whatever. I don't think we gave Robbie Ray like enough credit for like what he did last year.

Like he was like, legit. I don't even think we mentioned his name. Oh, on the trade deadline list too. He's got to get sick of that. Every year it's like they might get trade Robbie Wright. Fangraphs has him. He's 28.8 years old and

they're giving him on FanGraves 14 years of service time. So congratulations on making the Bigleys at 14 years old, Robbie. That's quite the feat. Congrats. That is huge. That is huge. All right, next up. My name is Isaac from Kansas City. I'm a diehard

Royals fan. My biggest fear from my top tier Kansas City Royals, first place Royals, is that once Jorge Salar and Whitmerfield reached their top peak

320 average and Whitmerfield is gosh, well you know my biggest fear, I don't even want to talk about that, is them getting traded because that's what the Royals do best is trading their

top guys right before you know, we get good. So that's my fears. I'm going to trade waste to learn with Maryfield. It's a sad time in Kansas City. I'm just sad. That's all. Thank you. Okay.

Well, thank you, Isaac. That's fair. I think he would be ecstatic if that happens. You should be ecstatic if they trade those guys away and they get some people because what are they going to do for you now? Those two guys aren't going to win you any games. Go get some value for them, build your shit back up, and then be happy in like four to five years.

I don't think we're going to see many trades, like Witt and Merrifield and Solair. They're, they've got a year left on their deal. They're not free agents at the end of this season. I don't think we're going to see many trades that aren't rentals this year. It just seems messed up to move everyone in the middle of this nonsense at the deadline. I don't know. You may see it. People may be paying a premium because they want to win so bad this year and they're up.

But, you know, they have some rentals they can trade. Like if Kennedy's good out of the bullpen, someone might be looking for him to put in their bullpen. maybe the Phillies go pick him up. Him and Gerardy can hang out again. You got Alex Gordon, who's a free agent, but he's kind of like going to be there until he retires, it feels like. I don't think you have to worry about trades as a Royals fan in this 60 game season. Maybe next offseason start worrying again. I love the call.

I think it was perfect. They're a Royals fan. They like watching Royals baseball, and they're scared that they're not going to be able to watch their best players. That was a perfect call. Yeah. It's a fear. I don't know. Yeah, that's kind of a short-sighted fear in my opinion.

It's fair. A lot of mine are. But that's a great point for you, Jim, like trading people in the middle of this season is going to be so effed for the player. Not a reason. And even the organization that trades for a guy, it's like, well, we got to make sure you're like a guy that we can trust not to be an idiot and go out and get COVID and infect our whole team.

Yeah. Like a month away from the deadline, right? Yeah. Something like that. I'd love to see some trades, though. Like, it'd be crazy, and it would suck for people. But I think you're right, like the bullpens. I think there's going to be a lot of people available.

Because teams don't want to pay this year, and they don't want to pay guys next year. So if there's some money coming off the books for them, they're going to be stoked for that. Yeah, I'm so interested to see how it plays out. It can go so many different ways. But, all right, we've got two Astros questions. Hey, guys.

Hey, guys, Harry from Huddersfield in England. fan of John Boy is very on Houston Astros. My biggest worry this year is actually the rotation, which is headed by two 37-year-olds, a guy who hasn't pitched in a year and a half in Lance McCullough and, like, two others. The fourth and fifth spot aren't looking great. So, for example, Forrest Whitley, top prospect, had a NRA over seven in AA last year.

I'm not saying I'm not confident in the pitching staff, but if anyone in that top three falters or gets injured, or gets COVID. Things could go wrong quite quickly, I think. So it makes me a bit touching. I'll stop there too, guys. All right, Astros pitching. We have another Astros call from Quentin.

Hey, guys. Quentin from Houston here, big-time Shuris fan. And my biggest worry going in, Tommy John, and then after that, it's a lot of the unknown. So I just worry what happened on the entire year, especially the rest of the league. You know, what happened? Astros.

Thank you for calling it from London. and Quentin's a Patreon member, always in the chat. I'll you, Jim. The Verlander and Granky thing, I think it's, they're 37. I'm not going to write Verlander off until we have to write them off. Dude's been to find time so far pretty well. And Granky's his own cat. But I think only having to make 10 starts is actually plays better for the age card.

Like, go light. I will say, though, the back end of the rotation is a huge question mark. Even McCullors, in my mind's a question mark. So if you start losing Verlander and Granky starts, it can start getting a little worrisome in Astrosland. Yeah, exactly what you said. You can spin this either way. If you want to go with the old birds at the top

and McCullors is bouncing back off Tommy John, blah, blah, blah, or you can say that works perfectly because they are old. They only have to do it for a third of a season, if that. McCullers doesn't have to worry about putting big miles up on his time. Tommy John arm. But yeah, and I think, Trevor we touched upon this a little bit last time,

but they also lost a couple bodies out of the bullpen too. There are questions. Absolutely. I wrote Justin Verlander off in, like, 2015 or 15. How that work out for you? He's just gone on to just be dominant for the next five years. So you can't write those guys off, like Jim said, until they're gone.

Like a guy like that, he's just figured something out. He just has the arm, him and Grinkier the same way. So those two of the top of your rotation I'd feel pretty good about. McCullors is an interesting case for me because he does have the stuff. But T.J. is tough to come back from. Some guys can do it really well. But McCuller's like calling card. I mean, I think in the playoffs he threw like 20 curveballs in a row or something like that.

I don't know if you could do that on a fresh new, you know, what does that call? the tendon and your elbow. So it's going to be interesting to see, I agree the starters, like, they're the same as everything we talked about. Like you're 3, 4, 5, you're going to have to just figure it out, okay, most teams. So yeah, it's a question mark,

but I'd be okay with their staff. Yeah, we're running into a lot of the same thing where teams that are contending aren't confident in their four or five. I know. I think the biggest thing we're telling people here is like just relax. Like no team has that down. If you could have five legit starters, you'd be in the World Series every single year.

Yeah. All right. Next. Dodgers. Going to your rocks, Jake. What's up, guys. Big Rocky fan out here in Denver. And my biggest fear with this 60-game season is that it might be Nolan Aaronaut is last,

unfortunately, considering that I and many other people around Denver think he's maybe the best third basin of all time. So do you guys think this might be his last year considering Jeff British out of the three-year opt-out into his contract? I really hope he doesn't. But I want to hear what you guys think. Thanks. So wait, who's got the opt-out? Nolan's big extension, he's got an opt-out.

I think it's 20-21. Let me tell you. He ain't opt-in-out, buddy, because where's he going to go in this free-agent climate? No, but they're worried he's going to opt-out in three years. I think the bigger thing would be him demanding the trade, which we heard rumors about this offseason. And, you know, we talked about Rocky's ownership briefly last episode, and they seem, you know, there's, if you want to look into that, go look into that. Man, this is, this is kind of my Rockies thing that, you know, I get some giggles out of you guys.

But this is supposed to be the Rockies, like, go time. This is supposed to be Trevor Story, Aeronado. You know, Blackman's winding down a little bit. Dahl, like the Young Arms, Marquez, Gray, Freeland. Like, this is, the Rockies kind of rebuilt for this to be their time, and they had a couple wild card games there. And last year they kind of shit the bed, and it's a rocky fear that if they go into another rebuild,

guess what? The stadium is real nice, and people go to the game, because it's kind of in a nice area. If you're a Rockies baseball fan, you want the good product. And, you know, we are at a tipping point. So to have that sitting in 60 games is scary. What I don't get here is the opt-out thought process because the Rockies management,

he's going to opt out after the 2021 season, so not after this season. So if the Rockies management's like, no one's not opting, he's not staying, he wants to leave Colorado. He hates us. is a bad relationship. Let's trade him before he opts out.

Well, he has a full no trade clause. But yeah, but maybe to go. But what team would bring him on knowing he can opt in and then you're on the line for all that money? It seems like you'd have to find a really... It would be like the Stanton trade where, like, there was only one team

that Stanton was going to okay a trade to that was also going to take on that money. So it happened. sure, but the odds and chances of it actually happening were pretty slim. It was like a crazy funnel that weeded out so many teams and it was like the Yankees. So if Aronado gets traded because they're scared he's going to opt out, it's going to have to be to a team that's not scared he'll opt in. No, nobody's taken on that because first of all,

player opt out only helps the player because, you know, obviously he has a decision. He can make the decision. Now, Aeronaut has a full trade clause. It's after 2021. And then you're looking at five more years at like 32.5 a year. And now you're getting up there in age. Defensive metrics are probably going to go down on him as he gets older.

He's going to be with the Rockies. Even if he went and played balls out this year and the following year, it'd be really tough for him to secure more money than that. just from me thinking about how free agency is going to go, we know this option is going to be horrible. After 2021, we have the CBA coming up. We'll see how that goes. But I'm going to say Aronado is going to be Iraqi until he's done.

I would agree. El Toro High School, baby. Yeah, nice. All right, we got a couple left. Let's breeze through these. We've got three more. We'll see if we can get them all in. Hey, guys.

My name is Sam Fletcher. I'm from Seattle, Washington, Big Mayor. fans. My biggest fear for the upcoming season is that our prospects will not get enough playing time with Meyer leagues. I want to see who we got to rigas getting some at bats. I want to see Kellanick getting at bats. I want to see Logan Gilbert throwing some baseballs and same with George Kirby to some major leaguers. I don't see that. I'm worried they're all going to slow their momentum they had in their great minor league season last year. Thank you, Yeah, I don't think they're going to play.

Yeah. Again, in service time manipulation, why would you have them play in a year that you're not trying to win? It's only 60 games and it would eat up a year of their service time. If you wait it out, then you get another year where you're hopefully trying to win. Say this rebuild takes three more years. Then there's four more at the end of that where you have these guys and that's your window. you're not going to take away one of those years now. So I don't see them playing a lot of these young guys.

The problem here is the young guys that the caller mentioned. Kalanick, you know, I think you're saving that for next year. Rodriguez, you know, Fangraphs doesn't have him coming up until 2022. There's some young dudes you can be excited about. Figure out if Kyle Lewis is a dude for you. J.P. Crawford, Shed Long. Evan White, the first baseman that got signed before he's played an MLB down of football. So Justice Sheffield, like there are other young guys.

You've got to look into them before you can get to the other prize pieces. Yeah, I don't know. I agree with Jim where it's like, why would you bring him up? But then the other side of me is like, bring these fuckers up. They're ready to play, you know? So I see the business side of it, obviously, and it's unfortunate that that is kind of, how this whole thing usually plays itself out. But I'd be surprised if we saw these guys.

I mean, maybe they're thinking we'd just hold them back and then bring them up after the whatever, the seven, eight days. Maybe they want to try that and just say, you know what, we'll just get these guys some experience. I don't think that's going to be the case. That's wishful thinking.

But we'll see, man. We could be totally surprised with how teams approach the 60 game season. Yeah. maybe the Mariners want to bring up just to trade them again. They love trading guys. But in our eyes, it's like why. If you're the Mariners team, you know you're going to lose this year, just lose a lot.

Yeah. Like, lose more than you, you know, lose as much as you can. That's kind of how things have been going, and I see them probably trying to do that. Yep. All right, we got two more. Mariners' bullpen stinks. Hey, guys, this is Sam,

and my biggest fear for my brewers this year, and possibly for years to come, is the lingering job. Hatter trade rumors that seem to have been making them around social media the last couple of years. I saw last year that the twins might have interest, but anyways, I don't feel like there's really a situation that a hater, that a package in return for hater would really impress me enough to want the brewers to go through with it. And I really feel like he has enough talent to be almost untradable. Also, I really hope he can bounce back from his struggles, which he ended,

did last season with. From July on, he gave up 16 runs and 31 games, including from July 1st to August 16th. He gave up 11 earned runs and seven home runs and only 16 innings. Anyways, those are my Josh

Hater thoughts, and I love to see what you guys think. Thanks. Bye-bye. Thanks for the call. I think all Josh Hater rumors are media or fan-driven. It makes no sense. He's with the team until 20-23. they're contending right now, and he's a main piece of their strategy.

It's like probably the third most important guy in the team. If they fall out in 2020 and aren't competing anymore, then yeah, they should trade him before he hits free agency, get something in return. As of right now, I mean, he's got three, he got four more seasons for really cheap on a team that's trying to win that loves using their bullpen. I don't think there's any, I wouldn't guess there's any realness to the rumors that they were trying to move him.

It shouldn't be in your head for now. It shouldn't be in your head for now. I mean, we'll see how the NL Central shakes out. This year is going to be too tight for that to even happen. This is haters' first year kind of getting paid. His salary was supposed to be $4 million. I think in a world, like let's say a couple of these NL Central teams take a jump and the brewers are behind. you know if again let go back to basics if there's a world where you can trade a reliever

no matter how specially is for some pretty legit prospects there's a world where that could end up making sense for them but it's not this year um what's the last like big reliever trade i guess chapman the only example and that's like such that's almost haeter might get himself to that area yeah that's that's the biggest comp hater for glaber did andrew miller ever get big prospects at any point. Clint Fraser, Justice Sheffield, Ben Heller, Fire Eisen. I agree. I was going to say the exact same thing, Jake. That's a good problem to have. Like, if you have a reliever that's that good that's going to drum up a bunch of trade interest, be happy for that. And then get rid of them because the shelf life of a good reliever is very, very short typically. There's a few guys that

break the mold that can go on and have long careers as good relievers. But a guy that's dominating, like, hater? You know, like, could he continue to do it? Sure, but like,

if I'm a GM and I'm like, I got this guy and yeah, not this year, but like next year or the year after, 100% I'm like,

let's go get a bag for this guy. We've paid him nothing. He's given us crazy amounts of value and now we're going to get even more value for him and then watch him

kind of decline on your team. Like I think having a guy like that as a possible trade trip is like what GMs and teams dream of. So I think it's a good thing. Yeah, good. Yeah, good. All right.

All right. Last voicemails about the Rangers. Hey guys. My name is Jerry from Austin, Texas. My team is the Texas Rangers. Right now, my biggest fear is Willie Calhoun. Of course, you have the freak accident in March, but now he's got, he's got an issue with the strain.

And my fear is that he's just going to kind of turn into. another jerk from pro far that kind of bounces back and forth through injuries and never quite leads up to his potential so that's my biggest fear at the moment what's on my mind thanks guys I appreciate the show and keep doing what you're doing Willie Calhoun what he got hit in the mouth in spring training yeah what was his his fear is that he's going to turn into a pro far yeah yeah so he's got uh little prospects for Morris from ProFar being the number one guy and it never really came together. And now Calhoun's kind of supposed to be the next in-line hitter for them and some early

injuries. So I get the fear, but I don't know. I played with both those guys. Like, Willie's attitude is different. ProFar kind of always felt to me like he wasn't as confident as he needed to be. Interesting. Willie, on the other hand, is very confident, almost to a fault. When I played with him in AAA with the Rangers, like, he needed to be humbled and, like, get to work. And from all reports and everyone I've talked to you, that's kind of what happened.

He got humbled, he's got to work. He's still very confident, and he can hit. The guy's just a hitter. So I think those two guys have different mentalities, like, not to say that it's going to play out differently just because of that. Like obviously Willie has to go put the numbers up, but I'd bet that Willie is going to be an above average hitter in the big leagues for a while.

Like he can do it. And he has that it factor, that confidence. Yeah, and Willie Calhoun has already put up a season better than any season pro far's hat. He's already beat him. You can't hold a guy. You can't change your mind on a guy because he got hit in the mouth with a pitch. Like you can't, that's such a freak injury that for you to be like, I don't know, he might not work out and put that in one of the bullet points of leading up to that new thought process, that's unfair.

Dude got hit in the mouth with the thing. The other injury was what, he said? He strained something recently? Yeah, so he's got a hip flexor strain. So he's like questionable for opening day. They think they're going to keep him on the roster to pinch hit maybe for the first few days. And then when he's healthy, get him in there with the expanded roster. So, I mean, you could be concerned about him getting into a groove this season.

Yeah, yeah. But not panning out. Like, Willie Calhoun's career, like, pump it back a little bit. How tall is he, Trev? Be honest with me. You guys are comparable. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay.

They have them at 5'8. I mean, give me some baseball spikes, yeah. Yeah. Build up a little mound of dirt at second stand on it. Yeah. that's the last voice bill thank you everyone that called in we appreciate it so good fears good fears yeah uh still doesn't beat jakes which was dying and the end which i struggle with every day what happens then interesting

um trap what's your team's fourth and fifth starters for god's sense yeah yeah yeah that's fair that's why i like the rangers because they're fourth and fifth they're pretty similar to their two and three yeah it's like hey they're all there They got a bunch of threes, it feels like. Like their one through five is a bunch of threes, which may play. Unless Klubers, Klobber. Yeah.

Lance Lynn pitched like a number one. Lance has numbers, yeah. I know. Love Texas. I love Lance. Friend of the pod, don't tell me he's number three, okay? Lance doesn't give a shit. Lance would not like that, though.

What's that? He probably wouldn't give a shit, but he also would not like that. He would probably yell at you or punch the meter or something. That's fine. Lance yells at everything. Big Lance fan. Big Lance fan. All right. We'll be back on Wednesday with, do we have, what's Wednesday,

a whole season preview type thing? So go get all your friends that have not been keeping up with baseball that are baseball fans but tuned out, which is allowed. Tell them to tune in, we will be doing a season preview of sorts, just kind of general excitement, things we're excited about. And also on Thursday, we will be doing our first talking baseball pregame show. it will not live on this YouTube or it will live on this YouTube account it won't live on the podcast feed that the main episodes live on we're making a separate one for it but you can watch it live on

periscope on Twitter on Facebook on YouTube that'll start Thursday and uh yeah tune in Wednesday for season preview Thursday for pregame show and then we'll get going it's going to be a lot of fun so thank you for calling in we appreciate you trev any last words yeah I wanted to give my biggest fear and it's I've struggled with it since I was little. Okay. I have these dreams all the time where everybody else, the entire world is in slow motion except for me. Oh, damn.

It's horrible. That's like a movie scene. It's fucked. It's like you guys would be talking and I just wouldn't be able to like, that's where I'm at. Huge fear. I don't know if you can, yeah, okay, slow-mo fear. Slow motion fear.

Damn. Huge. All right. See you guys later. Thank you.