Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 181 | Cespedes, Soroka, and Haunted Hotels

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

Yoenis Cespedes opted out of the 2020 season and at least one of him or the Mets is lying about how it went down. The Cardinals are the latest team with an outbreak but it is going much better than the Marlins outbreak. Mike Soroka tears his Achilles and will miss the season for Atlanta. Jomboy, Jake, and Plouffe run through the standings and break down which teams they believe in early. Trevor shares his ghost story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome back to talking baseball. Trevor is here. I'm here. Jake's here. We got Cardinals. We got Cessmas. We got Soroka. We got standings. We're talking baseball. Let's do it. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to talking baseball. It is time for the Trevor Tidbits episode. Baseball is in full swing. A lot of people still doubt it, but they're going. They're playing. Every night's full of games. So we are going to be full of podcast episodes. We're coming to you live from the Roosevelt's. studios that's rs v lts s i got trevor here jakes here bbd in the corner what's going on guys how are you doing happy uh we're recording this on tuesday the patrons are listening live on tuesday everyone else it gets dropped on monday jake how are you doing i'm good yeah you mentioned full slate of games i mean well at least at least an 80% slate of games and well we'll see what goes on with the cards they're the new one but the marlins are back on the fields tonight the Phillies back on the field last night. So hopefully, and, you know, people want to spin words or

whatever, but hopefully we've kind of found the game plan. If an outbreak does happen, there's kind of a two to three day figure out what's going on, two to three day make sure there's nobody else getting it, and then two to three days to make a game plan. So that's kind of how baseball is operating going forward. And the baseball action has been great. You know, I just brought up some stats. to make sure I was sharp for whatever Trevor Plough brings at us today. And I mean, you know, your three hit leaders are who you thought it would be before the season. Kyle Lewis, Donnie Barrels, Donovan Zalano, and Hanser Alberto. So baseball is off without a hitch with a couple hitches.

But no, the action's been good, enjoying watching. We're in it now, Trev. Yeah, I mean, when the product is on the field, I think it's looked really good. I like what they're kind of doing with the shots. They're keeping it really tight. So you just kind of see the players, their reactions. The crowd noise has been better than I thought it would be. So I've enjoyed watching the games.

And really, I haven't missed, like, having fans. Would it be better? Sure. But I think the overall viewing experience has been pretty good. Although they haven't really gone in and, like, done anything creative. But they figured it out. They figured out a way to make it look like good. at least look good enough where people don't notice the fans.

The most creative thing that we did see, Trev, is the cartoon or animated fans that Fox does, and I don't think they're worth it at all. I will say this. I was really, I like the cardboard cutouts. I don't mind them at all. But then the Yankees just tarped off the seats completely, and I kind of like the way that looks.

Of course you like it because it's the Yankees. I mean, no, has anyone else done it? It kind of just looks like the Indians, you know, know, or the new Texas ballpark where there's just no seats behind it. Like, you just want to remind people that the seats aren't empty. That's the most charming thing. I like both. I'm fine with it.

I think they're doing a great job. There's still just a lack of replays across the board. I'm trying to do breakdowns. Just don't show replays. Pissed me off. Yeah. Have they cut camera crews down? Is that why?

I mean, that could be why. I don't know. Like Fox and ESPN, they never show replays anyway. So I don't know what's going on there. but a lot of teams aren't. Yeah. Well, before we get into the big topics, I got to let you know who's bringing you the show today.

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Archit. Archie? Arcit? Archit? Sorry, bud. Josh Don Levy, Randy Ackerman, Max Coza, William L. Avaliers. Okay, I think we did these names already. I think we've done L. Avaliers because I said Lavaliers. Mike Sosnik, Dylan Strine, Zach Fidgiel, Nelson Escobar, Tyler, Bigler, Billy Farmer, and Alex Shai. shy. Well, thank you very much, our new patrons. They can listen live and hang out with us and have some fun. All right, let's get into this, Trev. I got a lot of topics. You can choose which one you want to do first. Do you want to open up with the Cardinals and the COVID and all that? Should we just get it out of the way? Because like Jake said, I want to hear your thoughts on it because the Marlins are back. The Phillies are back. The Nats are back. Everyone's playing. The Cardinals aren't. They had to wait it out. It seems like. Now that we've gone through it, I'm hoping people don't freak out every time this happens

because there will be another team that comes down with a lot of cases. And it seems like they have protocols and this is how they're doing it. Are you still worried about the season? Were you ever worried about the season? Where do you stand on everyone saying the season's going to be canceled? I'm still worried about the season for sure. But it seems like we're not seeing a lot of team to team. transmission, it's more like within the team.

I don't know, man. Like, guys just have to figure it out. Like, maybe, you know, these have been the wake-up calls they need. I know they're starting to be a lot stricter on the road with what guys are allowed to do and what they're not allowed to do. And I think that's kind of what needs to happen. If you're not going to operate in a bubble, you better have some strict rules if you want to get this season done.

I talked to a few guys, and I said, how is it going? Like, are guys, like, are guys, like, still going out? Like, what's, what's happening? And both the guys I talked to said on their teams that, like, they've talked about at that length, like, we're not doing that. Let's just get through the season. So, when I started to hear stuff like that, it makes me more optimistic about the season. But as the situation has been all, you know, all summer long, it's fluid. And we could wake up to bad news at any moment. So I'm still pessimistic on one end that we can get more of these outbreaks, but I'm optimistic that guys are taking it more seriously. So kind of in the middle here, but hopefully we don't have

any more of the big team outbreaks. It's scary, man. When you see 13, 14, 15 people, you know, come down with the COVID cases, it's not good. I'm not worried about the season. I think they're going to play this out and it would have to be, you know, we just had two teams. We just had two teams. get half their team basically test positive and the season's still going. So whether that's right or wrong or smart or dumb, I think the season's going to be played out and they're going to handle it and every team might not play 60 games, but they'll play enough and they'll just do winning percentage. It does suck that with the Marlins were the strip club rumors, with the Cardinals, were the

casino rumors, which got so loud that I think the manager or general manager, someone from the Cardinals organization actually addressed the rumors and was like, I don't know, I don't think that. That's true. There's no factual evidence that's true. But if it is, that's sad. I don't think you, we don't think the casino one's true. There was like the report that they went to a casino. All I'm saying is the rumors about guys leaving does suck. And I wonder how are some teams taking it really seriously and others aren't. Were they barred from leaving or is it just strong encouragement? You know, we have Craig Calcutera, a writer, a baseball writer who's been on the show. and Jake and I have had him on the show a couple times. And he said, you know, that he had someone tell him that they just saw all the players in an Uber go out in the town.

He didn't say which team or whatever, but he said, you know, that's just someone who knows, who I trust that knows, knows. And that's, I don't know. You don't know where they're going. You can speculate where they're going. It's not, you know, they can leave the hotel just, you know, don't go to a crowded bar or whatever, whatever. Yeah, I just wonder. It sucks that every time it comes down and we're getting these rumors, whether they're true or real, true or false it sucks.

And they announced the names of all the Cardinals. All six players, I believe it is, decided that it's okay. They wanted them to use their name. So the big one, obviously, is Yadi. Yaddi came out on his Instagram talking about it. Paul DeYoung, Cody Whitley, Ranhelle Ravelo, Jr. Fernandez, and Edmundo Sosa. are the six players for the Cardinals.

Obviously, Yadis, the big dude there. It would be interested to see how he reacts to it. And, you know, everyone kind of, it goes through people differently. But that's the guy. If the Cardinals are going to win and use their pitching to win, he's the guy they need behind the plate. So any extended absence without Yadis is a big, obviously a big blow for the Cardinals.

Yeah. And, I mean, the whole thing in general is going to be a great class. over the season. And sometimes that gray cloud is going to come over your stadium and it's going to rain a little bit. Sometimes it might be a lightning storm. Other times it might be a light drizzle. It's going to be here all year. I mean, there's always going to be doomsdayers. And I do think there is a chance, you know, if a couple teams do get hot, not in the right way, if they get, you know, a big COVID breakout at the same time, again, I think there is going to be a chance for like a stoppage,

but let's be honest, what rules the world is money, there's going to be an MLB playoffs this year. I don't know what necessarily that looks like, but there is going to be one. I do think you're going to get serious bubble consideration for the playoffs, and I don't know if that's just teams bubbling by themselves or however they make that work. But I do think that has to be a serious discussion,

because this is, like I said, we kind of have a plan now. It's two to three days you gather the cases and the bad news. Two to three days, you make sure that those are the confirmed cases, nobody else. Two to three days, you make the new plan and you start going. Playoffs, you're not going to be able to do that. You can't. And so baseball is going to have to figure out a way to control that. And with the success of the NBA bubble and now the NHL bubble,

I wouldn't be surprised if we do end up with some sort of playoff, playoff bubble somewhere. So I think that's kind of the new talks a little bit. We'll see. Hey, maybe the rest of the season goes swimmingly and we say, wow, we got so much better. I mean, there's still going to be more cases. You can do a playoff bubble easier. Yeah. You know, you really can. I mean, that's the thing. Well, you do two. You do two different. You do an ale in an NL bubble. Yeah, you do an AIL bubble. And then the World

Series those two teams have gotten there. So, get a plane in the bubble to take the NL team to the AL bubble. Bubble plane. Bubble plane. Bubble airport. Yeah. You know they want those playoffs. Bubble Watson.

They'll get the playoffs. I think that the best thing that you said, Trev, which everyone needs to kind of go, oh, okay. And put a lot of fake stock into it, is that we haven't really seen team to team, whatever you want to call it. We haven't seen the virus go team to team. The Marlins played that game and the Phillies. tested negative the whole way. I think the Cardinals were with someone and they didn't, you know, so that's, that's when it would get really scary. The Phillies test came back and they had half of their team and now

it's going team to team. I think that's the next level of it. If we get to there, it might be dangerous, but I think they're going to keep playing. Your guys, Boyd Jeets came out. He had a press conference and he said that it was not true that Miguel Rojas made the decision for the Marlins to play that game after they had the positive test. He came out and said that all of the league officials that needed to be told about were told about it. And that, after that, they decided to play some baseball. So that's, that's a big, that's a big thing because the Marlins were getting absolutely chastised for that, saying, how could you let players do it? We set it on here. Like, that's the dumbest thing I've

ever heard. But apparently it wasn't true. So I guess I have to apologize to Jets a little bit. Always. I thought that was a point we had to bring up on the show. You wore his jersey this weekend. I did. And then he comes out with a great quote. Wow. He's still hot, by the way.

I have to get, Jets needs to figure it out, all right? Like, step it up a little bit. I'm challenging him. He always loved the challenge during his playing days. Now he needs an adversary in the media world. Everyone just loves him too much. I got to push Jets. I still think he looks good.

I still think he looks good. Once he lost the hair, I was kind of out on him. So he had a little bit of. of a, like, he's not a good looking guy, come on. When the hair initially lost. You can't say, dude, young jeers, and then he had a little bit of the old guy going,

I see what you're saying, but I think he's found his old guy look. I think he's even lost a couple pounds. He's figured out what he's going on with his bald look. I think he looks good. Okay. And hey, we, this is just something that me and Jimmer kind of stumbled into

this morning on the COVID stuff. Dick Blyer, Richard Blyer, got traded from the Orioles to the Marlins. He'll go across dugouts because they're playing in Baltimore today. And we were, you know, the kind of the media reaction was like, damn, like imagine being Dick Blyer, you have to go to that. How could anyone want to join that team? And then we realized, like, they definitely, the Marlins definitely checked with Richard Blyer

because otherwise he could just opt out. And like you wouldn't just trade for a guy that's going to opt out. and he actually, he posted an Instagram that was like, I'm excited for the next chapter with Miami. So I don't know. I think that was just an interesting thing that we hadn't thought about. So maybe you hadn't thought about at home either. Nice.

Had you thought about that, Treve? About that guy just opting out. Why would he just opt out? If you get traded to the Marlins, the team that just had the outbreak? I mean, yeah, obviously if you get traded over there, you're not going to go and be around the guys that are infected. I Google Derek Jeter hot just to prove you wrong.

Okay, look, it's the intangibles to make Derek Jeter hot. It's the fact that he's a major league baseball player for the Yankees and he's got millions of dollars. Take all those things away, put him on the street, and you'd be like, uh, he's okay. That works better for Judge than Jeter. I think Jeter's, he's a decent looking guy, but he's, his roster, like his roster is because he's a Yankee short stuff. It's not because he looks great. Yeah, but I'm sure he'd be doing fine anyway.

I think he'd be doing pretty well. I don't think he'd be, you know, not the roster that he had. I don't think Jessica Alba and her brother. Well, yeah, of course. If he was a twin's third baseman that hit over a little hundred home runs, I think he still would have pulled some decent butt. I don't know, man. Back to you in the booth.

Hey, Trev, have you been keyed in on this Cespitus situation? A little bit. A little bit. Another PR mess for the Mets. It's all they do, baby. It's incredible. So Jake and I have talked about it a little bit, but if anyone is unaware of what happened, Cespitous Camp says that they told the Mets that he was opting out, and they didn't show up the next day.

And they said they told him that. The Mets say they had no idea, and they tweeted out that Cespitus was missing. And Trev, how would you, like, that's such a bad opening tweet. The Mets are so, like, even if the Mets did. didn't know where he was and that he didn't show up. Assessmentist hasn't reported or contacted the organization is the verbiage you would go for. The Mets saying he's missing to me is just dumb and rude and brutal. What do you got on that?

I think they should have just said nothing until they needed to. Like go, like make sure your player is okay before you come at him on social media. Like if they truly didn't know where he was, like I would think instead of faring off a tweet. You just kind of like pray that he's okay and go try to figure it out. I thought they'd like really jump the gun there. And now, yeah, like you said, we have conflicting reports. Did he say, I think, was it, Conforto last night was like, we've heard both sides.

Nimmo. We've heard that he told and then we heard that he didn't. So I don't think anybody really knows what happens. There was a picture of him at the mall with a few kids that wanted to take a picture of Cespitas. so we know where he was. And it seems to me like, yeah, like, there's no way he just didn't show up.

It just doesn't work that way. I'm sure his people, his agency, relayed a message, maybe it got lost somewhere, but you don't just not show up like that. Jake and I came to a pretty sound conclusion of what happened. Okay. He left the game, and on his way out of the clubhouse, he told the meds, this is, again,

not even alleged. This is just our story that we're making up that I do think is true, though. So don't listen to this and think it's actual. Well, I think he left the clubhouse the night before and said something like, fuck this, I'm done. You know, something vague enough that he can lean on it and say, I told you guys. And the Mets can also be like, you didn't officially tell us you're not coming back. And, you know, just said, I'm out. I'm not, I'm leaving. So then the Mets like, is he going anywhere?

Is he not? And then the next day he doesn't show up. and they're like, fuck this guy, and then they tweet out he's missing. That's what I think happened. That's interesting. I don't know, man. Yeah. Like Jim said, I'm there.

I think there might have been some FUs on the way out of the game that night. And I'm not coming back here. This sucks. And then there wasn't no agent. Like, Yo-Yo's agent asked him. And he was like, so you're out? and Yo-Yo said, yeah, I told him. I told him. He's like, okay, I go, okay.

And then I think that press release came out. I do think the Mets were trying to take a jab. I think they knew in some sort of way. They were trying to make them look back. But what's the point? Who gives a shit? Why do they need to make him look back? Because he's on the way out.

He's on the way out. It's such a Mets thing to do. Exactly. I can't believe. Like, for so long, you just kind of, from a distance, say, oh, that's the Mets, that's the Mets. that's the Mets. You see their fans complaining about it. But like, if it keeps happening over and over and over and over, it's got to be the truth. It's just the Mets are just a dumpster fire.

What else are you supposed to call this team? Trevor, organizations are run top down. We see it throughout sports. It just starts with the ownership. Look at the Redskins. Just look at any bad organization. You don't just come back in and say, or excuse me, the Washington football. ball team. The team, you literally can't say the team's name because they don't have one.

That's how poorly that organization is run. And you just see it throughout sports. So many other people, if you don't work in the sports world, whatever you do, when I was in electrical supplies, I'd see it. I'd travel to each division and I could tell instantly whether they were well run or not. So that's the Mets. That's why they're looking for a new ownership group. And that's why Mets fans want one so bad. The Mets PR team, which I believe his name is Jay Horowitz, and he's an old man. I guess I shouldn't say that unless I know. I don't know if he's still there anymore, but it was for years.

Trave, do you even know, like, you might not be close to it? Last year, the Mets PR team, they basically think, you know, we always say, you know, smart people think everyone's dumber them or people in charge think everyone's dumb of them. The Mets think everyone's dumb as hell. Last year, was it the day they got eliminated from contention? They retired a dude's number. who like...

Something like that, yeah. Hadn't been around for... Like, they could have retired his number in the last 60 years. There was no reason to retire it, but they just wanted to put up a different headline as soon as they got eliminated or something bad happened. They operate to win the back page of the newspaper. Yes.

They thought the Mets could come out looking good if it's like, oh, Cespitis bails on the season. It's like, nope, you just tried to drag him through the mud. Yeah, I have... I mean, this is going to be... And they're still worth $2.5 billion. This is their head of PR. Yeah.

Hot. Yeah. Not Jeter hot, but hot. Yeah. Who is it? Jay Horowitz. I don't know, man. It's the GM, Brody Ben Wagnan.

He went to my high school. He was an agency at the agency that I was at during my playing days. Former. He's out. Sorry, my bad. Wrong info. Jay Horowitz is out. But yeah.

It's just bad, man. It's, oh, man. It's a weird thing. It's a weird thing. I don't know what the change needs to be. You're talking straight up from the top, get rid of the owners, new owners in there. Is A-Rod going to do a better job? It's coming. Steve Cohen's coming.

Cohen versus A-Rod and his group? Is that the two bidders right now? Has an A-Rod done pretty good business-wise? I mean, you know, he had a good base to work with money-wise, but I know he's... You know, you don't have to necessarily be a good owner, but if you're a good owner, and you're not good at football or baseball or whatever sport you're involved in have a right-hand person that runs the team and they know what they're doing like put yourself in a position to be successful and I just don't think the Mets are doing that and you know it's it's exciting when Brody gets hired

hey he's an agent maybe this will help negotiating maybe he'll hook him up with the like I don't know doesn't look great as of now doesn't look great as of now doesn't look great as of now you know like they missed on everything that City Field is a dump. They could have done so much better with it. I remember when they debuted that field, it was like a windy day, and there was just trash blowing everywhere,

and it was like the debutist city field, and all you could see in the outfit was just trash, like, everywhere. And I was like, this is like, it looked like foreshadowing. And sure enough, it's been foreshadowing. Step right up and meet the Mets. I feel bad. I feel bad.

Norm Schaever and the first. Patreon chat says the Braves broadcast was genuinely worried about Cespitas, which is hilarious that that's like what the Mets wanted, I guess. I don't know what, I don't know what they wanted. Just, you cannot make your first tweet that your player is missing. That's like PR 101. We talked about this on J.J.R. I said, I said it's fine as long as if someone's genuinely missing and you're hoping that any help can find them.

Like, that tweets a fire alarm. You can't just casually, oh, first. First inning, by the way. How could they not find him, by the way? Just, like, give him a phone call. He had his phone on him. He was at the mall. Just ignoring them.

Like, what? Dude, I googled Mets trash on the field, Trev, because I didn't remember that when they opened the stadium. There's trash blowing all over. All over. These quotes from the players afterwards are hilarious. I've never seen a stadium that has this much trash in it, said John Main.

It was everywhere, man. Brinkor said. There were hot dog wrappers flying around, cotton candy wrappers. I was waiting to get a ball to get wrapped up one of those things. Yeah, I remember watching me like, wow, this is a bad look for, like, them opening a brand new stadium. And then you got the airplanes flying right over during the game. It's a mess, dude.

Ike Davis said, I don't think I've ever seen that much trash on the field, which is just such funny quotes. Yeah, that's a... We need a breakdown, trash breakdown. Imagine if that quote came out today, Twitter would have had a field day with it. Yeah, that's pretty funny. All right, let's move on. We got sad Seroca News and some standings, but before we get into that,

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slash sportsbook for details. Gambling problem, 1-800 gambler. Soroka got hurt, Trev, and it's pretty brutal and sad. Did you feel bad for him? I did, and we briefly talked about it on the pre-game show. I was watching live, saw the ground ball, looked to see the pitcher at first base. He wasn't there.

They cut back to Soroka, and he was down the ground. I was hoping it was just kind of like a sprained ankle type thing, but as he was walking off not being able to put any weight on the foot kind of said, hey, this is a significant injury. Then after the game, we find out it is a ruptured Achilles.

He will miss the rest of the year. One of the bright young stars in the game, and some of the Braves desperately need, I don't know if that means they're done for this year, but that's a big, big blow. Yeah, I don't think done. I mean, they're off to a nice start. Like any injury, you need dudes to step up.

I mean, you need, you know, Max Fried, our guy, your guy, workout partner in the dungeon. He's off to a good start. Keep it going. You're going to have to have a nice year. They're still waiting for Hamels to get back, right? Do they have any update on him? So I'll Google that quickly.

Seems like something. I don't think he's coming back. I thought I read something that Hamels might be done for an extended period of time. So, I mean, if he's out for the season, okay, then I'm a little worried. No, I bring back Felix. King Felix, yeah, what's he doing? He technically opted out, I think. Do you think they wish they still had faulty?

They do. Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, that's crazy that he's just sitting there. Imagine if he comes back and he's like an important part of their team, that would be some. I like that. That'd be some full circle stuff. But yeah, prayers to Soroka, man, get better. That's tough to watch.

Any Braves fan, let us know what the plan is. How are you going to fill out that record? So, dude, look. rotation that was the conversation at spring training was who's going to be the fifth starter slash six starter there's king felix right now the number one is max freed anyone want to guess the number two i would have gotten it wrong it's nukem yeah newcomb newcomb tuky tucson slides up to the three slot he had a nice little outing how right is four yeah i mean tuky and kyle right are both 24 years old. So, hey, you know, you guys were prospects, get it ready. Fire up the cannon, get it going.

I think Tuky only went like three, but it was a good three. Sure. Soroka's gone for the season. Cole Hamils, he's tricep tendonitis. It's surgery date 7-11. He might be out for the year. Yeah, I don't know. I think you're definitely nervous. Your expectations of this season as a Braves fan might have changed slash, I mean, I'd say go out and get a pitcher, but where are they? You know? have some in their player pool. They got Huli, Chasin. They still have. They also got Marquakis back, which is interesting. Cakes. Yeah, put him on the bump. Fulte. Yeah, Fulte and Julie's Jassine's, it's go time. Save the season, baby. I don't think any team is going to give up any pitching right now. I mean, we've seen a few minor trades, but I think teams are like,

I'm going to hoard it all because this could happen in this weird season. You've got to have the depth. And you know what? I think you just, Again, part of the reason this Braves thing is supposed to be special going forward is that there is still a little bit more in the pipeline. Bryce Wilson and Ian Anderson, they're both top 100 prospects. Anderson 44, Bryce Wilson. They got him at 105. I'll sign them up for now. I like them better than five other guys.

So, hey, you want an opportunity, you want a shot in the big leagues kid? Here you go. Here's the keys to the kingdom a little bit. If you pitch well now, you can be part of a really good Braves team going forward the next few. years. Did you see, yeah, Norm's in there giving us some guys he's excited about. Nice. Oh, nice.

You know any of them? The first two are the guys I was just talking about. I'm not familiar with Tucker Davidson. I don't know. Is he in their player pool? They don't think he's supposed to, yeah, he's in their player pool. He's a lefty. Hey, if you're a lefty and you can throw strikes.

They said Tucker's going to be that guy. I want to play a little game with you guys. Let's play a game. It's kind of a buy, sell, believe, don't believe. I'm going to go division to division And we're going to look at one team The whole thing's in 1920s voices Yes, the whole thing in 1920s voices

And it's just going to be like Believer or Belieber And let's start What is the What's the believer or what? I made it up words I think you said believer or believer

Believer or believer Believer That's even better I think Yeah Yeah yeah I'm going to look at the top two teams In each division there's one surprise in most of them.

Okay. And then we're going to say our thoughts on them. So, Trev, the Orioles are in second place in the AL East. You a believer? You buy in stock? Or you're not buying any stock. They're five and three right now in second place. You got them getting that second place in the division.

You got them getting a wild card spot? I'm shorting that one. I'm shortened that one. Okay. Yeah, not a believer. So I guess I'm a believer or whatever you just said. Okay. Small sample size, put it over 60 games.

I'll put their win total. Now higher than I had it before. But I'll still put it at like, I was going to say 17, but I think that's what I had of that. I'll give them 20 games. I'll give them 20 wins this season. That was the over-underer is one of my locks, so I'm getting a little nervous because they look good,

and now they're getting the Marlins for a couple games. I think the roller coaster keeps going up in this Marlin series. Marlins haven't been playing baseball. and then I think the coaster goes down and when it goes down, it's going to go down hard. But I mean, hey, even this streak of baseball, five and three, which could turn into six and three, seven and three,

the Orioles didn't know they were going to get that all year. So enjoy it, Baltimore. I was going to say, I do like that they started this way. I'm happy for them. But yeah, I'm not buying that stock. I don't think they're making the- Go-in 38. Are they making the 16-te-te-te-play-off?

Don't think so. I'm out. It would be amazing. My gosh, what a story. I would be so happy. Expand the playoffs. Our boy Hanser Alberto, you know, Alex Cobb.

They were really good to us in spring training. And you had great internet at Ed Dean Field. Dude, they're such good interview of the internet there. It was crazy. Good internet. They were practicing those pop-ups with the crowd noise. That's got them trained well. Man, some of these teams.

They are the only team trade for fake crowd noise. The, um, what breakdown did I just do, Tatis? Tatis. Was it, was the Padre's home? or was in L.A. I think it was in San Diego. They, like, just blared the noise at one point. Oh, yeah. It was like, yeah, wow.

They did that in the Yankees game, too. It was like two strikes on the batter, and they just, like, slid the dial up. The announcers were like, whoa, crowds getting into it. Coming in for the save, Zach Britton, leading the league. All right, believer or non-believer, you buy in stock or you shorten stock, are you Jake in it or are you Jimmy in it?

White Sox are in second place in the AL Central? Treb, you were hard on them, and then you came back and you were excited. excited about them. You've seen them play a good amount now. They're six and four. They're in second place in the central. Where are they on your radar? Oh, man. Okay, well, I was hard on them. Then I got brought back in because of the offense. The offenses looked good. It's the pitching that we all kind of worry about. So I'm, I'm off them. I, after watching the Indians play, and I know they have a worst record, they're five and six right now, but watching their starting pitching,

go. I got to believe that those top two teams at the end of the 60 game season will be twins versus Indians. As long as everyone stays healthy, I think those two teams are going to separate themselves. I love watching the White Sox play. But if you're asking me, if they're going to be in second place in that division at the end of the year right now, I'm going to say no. I agree with you there, but I do think they're in contention for a wild card. So if we're just buying playoff stock, I am, I do think what the White Sox have been doing. And Also, the West and the East are the non-good teams are looking brutal right now. It's very early. It's very, very early.

Even in a 60-game season, slowly. But I do think the White Sox are primed to get one of those wild card spots if they do not place top two in the division. Buying so much white Sox stock. They're going to be, they're my team. I can't quit this year. I've fall in love. I've fall in love with the lineup. And they've got dudes in the lineup that you're probably not thinking of who are currently raking.

if they keep it up. Lurie Garcia is having a really hot start. But even the guys you do think of, I mean, how special is Luis Robert? I mean, Munkata's off to a good start. Robert, Tim Anderson, hitting 333 again. Eloy Jimenez is doing it. Jose Abraeu is starting to find it.

Like, their lineup is deep. Love Jose Brayu. Their lineup is deep and nasty. Plus Gialito and Kikell at the top. They are, they're going to be the team that I'm going to eat crow on every other episode. They're going to lose a series and people are going to be down on them. Then they're going to come back and sweep three.

They're going to be hot and cold all year, and that's kind of why I like them. Guess how many hits they have in their last three games? Thousand. Less. 30. 37. I was to say 40.

21, 14, 12. It's crazy. Look at their team totals. I mean, they're sitting at an 812 team OPS, 128 OPS plus. I mean, they're doing their lineups. doing it. They just brought up Nick Madrigal, who's, you know, a former top pick for them. So, or head game. Grandal hasn't even really gotten it going. The rest of the guys have kept the lineup or kept the offense going. That was never the problem. We love the offense there.

It's, is the pitching going to hold up? They have some guys, you know, the top of their rotation is pretty solid. I just, man, those Indians, I, I've been so back and forth to the essential teams, I wasn't a believer and then I've seen what they've done, even Pleasak going against last night against the Reds. You know, he looked good. So, like, they got a one through five there. Arms on arms on arms. They're averaging, they're letting up five runs, basically five runs a game on average.

So they need to tighten that up. Hey. 67% chance to make the playoffs. So they're... Yeah, I think the wild card spot might be looking nice for them. All right, moving on to the West. I mean, you have the A's. This is a tough one.

You have the A's in first place currently, the Astros in second. I think it's very easy. We're all going to buy the stock on those two teams. So let's move on to the Rangers who we thought may be going for a wild card. Really, it's just been the Lance Lynn show. So are you in or out on the Rangers? I'll go first this time. I'm out.

I am short in that stock. They would have needed to start off very, very good for me. and they didn't. Okay. How about? They haven't hit. Treve, you just gave a percentage that we missed before. Orioles right now have a 29.6% chance to make the postseason.

Think about that, people. 29. The Rangers. Texas, Texas, I'm out until they get another hitter. We did this because it ties to Yankees world, and it's a guy we talk about too much even here. I think Clint Frazier would be in the middle of that lineup. I think he'd be their five-hole hitter, and right now he can't crack the Yankees 30-man.

So if I'm the Rangers GM right now, I'm scrounging 30-man rosters, and even the travel squad, they need sticks. Like, when have we ever said that about a Texas Rangers team? You know, if and when Mike Miner does figure it out and some of those other veteran pitchers, give them some run support. Right now it's just Joey Gallo or bust. Calhoun's gone off to an awful start. Awful.

all of them if you look at the team totals i mean they're hitting 195 as a team yeah they are at joey gallo's been the only guy that's really done anything they're averaging three point three runs a game not a lot and they're giving up on average like around five again maybe a little less than five so it's a weird it's a weird team you know like you don't get excited when you look at it and we've talked about that with the rotation kind of the same way with the offense you could find nuggins you could find gets in there. Joey Gallo obviously is a stud. But if you, if you want to see a good offense, like if you want to see that in the Rangers, you can kind of find some things. But if you really just take a step back and look unbiased, nothing gets you excited about that lineup.

You know, maybe a couple years ago, you know, with Chu and Frazier and Elvis. Chew is nice. Gallo is the only fear factor at all. Yeah, I mean, he's, I mean, yeah. So, yeah, if you're asking me, am I in on them getting a wild card? Right now, I am not in on them getting a wild card. Yeah, I agree. All right, moving on. Who's going to get that second wild card then?

Well, it's going to, it's kind of come down to the Orioles. It's going to come down. Right now, it's looking like White Sox Angels. Around there. Angels look worse than the Texas so far. They're getting trout back. They get Joe Adele. Hopefully that can spark them a little bit.

and Bundy's an absolutely stud. Yeah. All right, I'm moving on to the NL Central. The Reds are in second place with a 500 record. We did a little bit of talking about them on the pregame show, but we can air it out a little bit more here. I'm buying stock on the Reds. We were very iffy on if they were going to be good or bad.

The starting pitching, Sunny Gray is the real deal. I think it's 36 games in a row now without more than six hits, which is nuts in like 15 with less than six hits in a row. it's insane. Bauer, his spin rate has spiked up so much that people are saying he's using Pine Tarnow, even though he said he was morally against it. But then I think he said, well, if everyone's going to use it,

I'm going to use it. His spin rate is like crazy jump and he's pitching lights out. So obviously everyone uses it, so I don't really care. But he did come out really hard against it, so it would be kind of shitty. It would be a weird look. Anyway, they look good. They got off to a rough start. They lost four in a row.

row. They've just won three in a row. The hitting's starting to come around. They got, you know, they're scoring runs now. So I'm in on the Reds. Trev, are you a believer? I am. I'm in on the Reds. I love the starting pitching. The offense is going to be there. I love who they brought in. We've talked about of that length before with Castellanos and Mustakis. You know, Suarez and Shogu haven't showed up at all. So you got to get those guys going. But I think, that a couple of the games that they lost early on they had leads in the bullpen blew it Lorenzo Lorenzen with his with his vans blew it so he took those off and I think they're gonna they're gonna make a run here watching Joey Votto you know go through at bats last night

against Plyzac was fun it's a lot of fun man if you get that guy like right right like you get Hall of Fame Joey Vado in the middle of that lineup I'm I'm betting big on these Reds to make the playoffs. Right now they're a 45% chance. I think that's way too low. I mean, I think they're going to be in the playoffs in some capacity. Yeah, I don't know about the division. I still think it might be wild, but I think that division might bring us a wildcard team, which we didn't know at first because the East is looking messy and we'll get there soon. But, you know, they are averaging, since I'm doing it with every other team, they're averaging five runs a game and they're averaging giving up 3.4. So that's pretty nice. The only thing I'll say about

the Reds is they have played the Tigers six times out of their 10 games. So I'd like to see them play some other opponents. They played the Cubs and lost to them. They're playing the Indians right now. They had a nice win yesterday. But you'd like to see them play some of these other teams that are good. It's cool seeing the Reds good. Like, I like that.

Like, there should be good baseball. when you think about the history of the Reds, like it's just, it's fun to see them doing well. Joey Votto hasn't been in the playoffs a ton. I think he had two or three years, you know, not a lot of postseason action for him. I would love to see him in the postseason. He's like a guy like Trout.

You want to see them, you know, with the bright lights, like going for it. So hopefully we'll get to see that this year. I'm thinking we will. I've got Votto as my eye on them. I think he's going to be their pulse. if he is 2017 Joey Votto with a one dot OPS compared to 768 Votto in the juice ball year last year, he looks good. I mean, he's hitting homers.

He's always going to have the eye. Does he have power? And guys, what we're stumbling into is these wild card spots, you know, it's really going to come down to a group of three or four teams. I mean, almost three. These Reds have a good chance to be one of them. Imagine if you're the Dodgers and you draw the reds. and you draw the Reds in a three-game set with Sunny, Bauer, and Castillo? Holy!

Yeah. Bleep. You could say that for a bunch of different teams. The top end of the rotation in a three-game series, I mean, in baseball, anything can happen. I think you can only say we're like five teams, though. In the playoffs, that's a third of the teams. I think the NL Wild Card potential wild card teams are scarier than the AL potential wildcard teams. Like, we just landed on Angels, White Sox, and then making.

Maybe if the Blue Jays can turn it on or something like that. Those teams are fun. The Reds and maybe like, what about the Nationals? Well, yeah, the ALs been more top-heavy than the NL for a while now. But now with this eight game, one-verse-eight seed, and say you get the Nationals with Scherzorzs, Corbyn, in a three-game set. Yeah.

National League's a bad time right now. I can't wait. I want the White Sox to match up with the Reds, which is coming because they're in the Central. that's going to be a fun series. So that's your World Series prediction. We can tweet that out from talking baseball? It's not.

This is my World Series prediction right here. Oh, wow. Still, huh? Buying stock. Good time to buy Ray's stock. Good time to buy Ray's stock. I'm buying Ray's stock. All right.

I'm skipping the NLEs because the Marlins haven't played enough. The Nats haven't played enough. Phillies haven't played enough. There's just nothing really to talk about there with any substance. Sell Metstock. Sell Metstock. but the NO West has three teams with seven wins right now. The Rockies, the Dodgers, and the Padres.

Obviously, the Dodgers aren't a discussion. The Rockies and Padres are, and I still am not convinced to buy either stock, but I'm close. Wild card stock, for sure. The Rockies, I think, barring the start, I hope they can finish it out and not lose the division. that would be an embarrassment. The Padres are young and fun right now.

We'll see how long it lasts. They just lost a series to the Rockies. So head to head. Rockies had them. But they're definitely fun. I think of your Padres fan, I wouldn't be upset about anything because right now the season's looking like

exactly what you needed for this 60 game set. But where are you guys? I know that you've been buying Rockstock, Jake. Where are you on Trevor's Padres? My Rockies investment has looked fantastic so far. They're pitching. and that's the whole thing. Their two losses have been one-run games.

Opening day, Lance Lynn shoved, one-nothing, and then they lost 8-7 to the Padres. Tatis tied it in the night. So they have been in or winning every game as long as they keep that pitching going, which so far they are. Might not be the best time to buy their stock. Stock's a little high.

You might want to wait for coming back down a little bit. I don't know, but here's the thing, dude. They're facing the Giants now. Then they get the Mariners right after. So the stock still got room to run a little bit. You can buy a little more. I won't stop you, Trev. You know that.

If they pitch like this. Padres also, you have to consider the energy that's going on there. Tatis is an absolute stud. The pitching's been solid. They just called up Luis Petino, who's a big pitching prospect today. So they're adding. Like, they are going. And that's a good feeling as a team.

You're winning games. You're adding reinforcements. So I don't know. if I'm buying Padre stock yet just because I have the Rocky stock, and that feels like almost a conflict of interest in stocks, don't be shy to buy a couple cheap debaq stock. It's still really early in this season. So that's all I'm saying.

Okay. You love the debacks. Investments by Jake. Yeah, I mean, the Rockies are scary. Their offense is always scary. They have some excellent players in that lineup. They're pitching great right now. So, I mean, obviously that's kind of where the 7 and 2 record comes from.

They have a few more games. They could get out right now. I mean, facing the Giants, facing the Mariners, I mean, they could be 12 and 2. Really quickly. And we'd have to, I mean, adjust everything because of that. I'm still on the Padres finishing above them. Their bullpen, which we thought would be a big strength for them, hasn't looked so hot. I kind of like that.

That just means they're going to get hot. and they've been able to weather the storm without that back into the bullpen because they've been hitting. They've had some timely starting pitching. Paddock has looked pretty good. I think they're built for the long haul more than the Rockies are. But it could just be that I don't know the guys on the pitching staff, and I'm not giving them enough credit.

That's happened to me a lot this year. It's not a long haul. Yeah. It's interesting, man. They look good, though. Yeah, I'm still confused by both of them. Like, I'm happy for the Rockies, but I feel like came crashing down on them last year,

so I still think they're a contender for that. I don't know. I hope the Padres go for a while. The Rockies pitching has been so good. They're averaging 2.8 runs allowed a game. Is Will Myers, is he back? Will Myers' dig-dropping tour is here? Is it here to stay?

Does the top prospect, Will Myers is finally panning out, baby? Will with one out. Do you know him? Did you play with him? I played against him. I don't know him. You know, met him and talked to him. He's kind of a shyer guy, but he's got that one dot OPS right now through 45 at Bats or 39 at Bats, 45 play appearances. I mean, Career 109 OPS Plus. He can hit. He can hit. He can hit a little bit. He's just needed a position and, I don't know, does he have platoon numbers? Is he a platoon guy?

I don't know. I don't know if he is or not. I got a, I mean, look, I would love just for the sake of chaos if the Dodgers were the wildcard team. Imagine if they dropped a third. Be crazy. I don't know, man. Not going to happen, though. I'm not buying either stock right now, as Jake said, only because I think it's a little overpriced. That's what I'm saying.

If we're talking in the world where you buy stocks, this is, this would be. the week to just get a little bit of debacks. I'm not saying you empty the wallet, but, you know, the debacks could put up a seven and three week, and then we're back here saying they're back in the pot with these other two teams. I'm buying Rocky stock for the next five days, and then I'm dumping it.

Wow. Okay. Okay. That's where I'm at. So there's the game, believer or believer. Believer or believer. We'll do that again in like two weeks, maybe. Spit on me.

You got any ghost stories? Is that what? Oh, yeah. I want to end talking about that because it's pretty funny. I didn't put two and two together until I was texting

with friend of the pod Jack Flary and I was like... How's he doing? He's hanging in there, man. You saw he put his mattress up against the wall, he threw a bullpen, he's been doing jumping jacks and doing workouts in the room.

It's hilarious to think about the best baseball players in the world, finally tuned professional athletes having to resort to throwing a bullpen in a hotel room. And he's intense, man. He gets his work in, like, so I can only imagine. It's like he needs that. That's part of his routine.

And got to be going stir crazy. But I was texting him, just asking him. And I was like, I was like thinking, where are you guys? Like, I didn't really even think about it. And he's like, we're in Milwaukee. And I was like, oh, my goodness. They've been at the Fister Hotel for, over a week.

I don't know how long. 10 days, 7, 10 days, whatever it's been. That is a famously haunted hotel in Milwaukee. So much that Yadi Molina used to go stay at different hotels when he would come into Milwaukee. We had a coach, Jerry White, hilarious first base coach for the twins. When we'd get back from the game, he'd go find a spot in the lobby, and he would sit there.

all night until the sun came up, then he would go to his room. He was that scared of the hotel. And was he normally a pretty regular dude? Jerry White? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, every other hotel he went to his room. The fister.

That's a very fair argument. I don't know where you guys are at on ghosts. I have a ghost story. And the thing is, this isn't one of the, This isn't the only haunted hotel in the show. The Vinoy in Tampa, a lot of teams stay there. That is also one specific tower supposed to be haunted. A lot of guys get freaked out there.

They'll even room together when you go to the Vinoy. I have never experienced anything there or at the Fister, but definitely creepy vibes, a place you don't, the Fister especially, you don't want to be there for seven to ten days. G. Man Choy has a funny story when he came over to the Brewers about the Fister Hotel. He said a ghost visited him in the bed and he didn't sleep. Someone just asked him like, how did you sleep? He said, not good.

I'll be honest. I'll be honest. Not good. And he said, I've seen ghosts plenty of times. So trust me, this was a ghost. I mean, there's stories. I mean, the NBA, the NBA players hate staying there. Anyone that goes with a Milwaukee.

Why do teams stay there if this is the thing? Like, are there no other hotels? There's got to be some pay-for-play thing. going on there. Like, whoever owns the Fister's gotten in with somebody. I'm sure we could look that up, but it's a nice hotel.

But it's haunted, I mean. Sure. You're comfortable, but you're amongst ghosts and supernatural entities. Do you think it's haunted because Fister spelled so stupid? Possibly. Do you guys want to hear my ghost story? Then we could maybe end the episode.

Oh, yeah. Let's end it on your ghost story. Yeah. All right. I don't know if we have any ghost music on your soundboard. No. Definitely have ghost music on the soundboard. Did you just ask if we have ghost music on the soundboard? Jimmy said he's got every key lined up, so I'm just praying that maybe he has a spooky. Yeah, I got spooky.

Play some spooky, okay. This isn't it, but we'll do this. Is this even on? No. Okay. Ooh. Here we go. He did the mask.

They did the mons. I've got to. Stop. All right, what's the ghost story? Let me take you guys back to 2009. Yankees won the World Series. Yeah, good year for you guys. Young Trev still battling his way through the minor leagues.

He's in AAA now with the Rochester Red Wings, going to play the Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs. There's a hotel in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania that you stay out. I do not remember. I think it's Hotel Bethlehem. So you can check that out. um my wife olivia and i had just started dating Skype was a thing get back from um our game and you have roommates in the minor leagues i wanted to have privacy i said look i'm going to go down to the lobby and Skype olivia it's like go down to the lobby

i enter this like room that's adjacent to it it's empty get some privacy there and we start skyping i'm sitting there talking to her. It's probably midnight, East Coast time. We're talking. 2009 Skype session. Nice. Yeah. Early. Hot. Yeah, early on the Skype. Could have been 2010. Don't quote me on that.

But somewhere where I was still in the bushes. So I'm sitting there talking just how I'm doing with you guys. I'm looking at the screen. I'm talking to her and I see someone come in the room. But I'm talking to her. So this person's walking over here.

alongside me. I see that in my peripheral. As I go to look up, there are like pillars in this room. And as I go to look up to see who it is, they kind of like sneak behind the pillar. And then I look to see, you know, who is it? Like who's going to come on the other side of the pillar?

Nobody ends up coming out from the pillar. So now I'm like, okay, that's weird. I don't. Maybe it was a shadow. I don't know. You know, really look like a person to me. didn't think much of it continued talking to Olivia

the next day I wake up and tell my room in I said man this weird thing happened last night I thought I saw someone come in the room and all of a sudden they were gone like they went like a trap door or something we go to the website of the hotel

and literally like on the home page of the website unbeknownst to me is a tab talking about the ghost of such and such, some lady that likes to dance in the ballroom late at night. I'm like, what's the ballroom?

I was sitting in the ballroom, and apparently I saw some lady who likes to dance in the ballroom late at night. I will never forget it. I still get chills thinking about it right now. Does she look like the dancing emoji, the red dress? It was a lot like the haunted mansion ride.

in at Disneyland where they kind of just like float around dancing together but she was just walking. Interesting. And ever since then, I never went back in that room and I never will.

Spooky. I like that. Yeah, that's fun. Dancing lady ghosts ain't that bad. I'm going to look her name up right now because all you have to do is Google Hotel Bethlehem and it's going to come up. Yeah, looks like there's a few ghosts there.

They advertise room 932 is their haunted hotel room. They say they don't advertise that there are a bunch of other ghosts because they think that might freak people out. So, yeah. So you saw the ghost of May Augusta Yohei. Yeah, Mary Mae Yohei. She was the daughter of management in the mid-1800s, I think. Yeah.

Yeah, if I remember correctly. She's pretty. Well, okay. Well, I'm going back and forth on if I find her attractive. She married Lord Francis Clinton, Hope, who's a woman. family own the Hope Diamond. That's cool. Holy smokes.

Yeah, it was something I'll never forget. Do I believe in Ghost now? I guess I have to because I've seen one. Yeah. May Augusta. You would have. Oh, yeah. Her social climb took a nose die when she fell in love with an American soldier and left Hope.

Oh, damn. A blacklisted performer and lived essentially a life of poverty. She's mad. Yeah. She pissed off. Damn. She saw you. Famous baseball player, jealous of it. It's crushing. Is that something you guys are interested in, like ghosts?

Like, you want to go hunt for ghosts? Well, okay. We'll do this. Katie, my fiance, loves ghost stuff, and she likes ghost tours so much. So I'll go on some with her. We went on one in Savannah. I am petrified of death. My brain hasn't wrapped around it. It gives me anxiety and I start like heavy breathing.

I have to shake my head to stop thinking about what happens after we die. It really crumbles me as a person. Just being honest. So we went on a ghost toward Savannah. And it was like, like we did two. And the first one was fine. The second was like in depth. Like this is where they were sitting when they died like real people.

and I like almost had a panic attack. I think I did. I think it's the close side of it. I don't know if it was one. Close to come and I just told her like I, she's terrified of whales. It's like this is like me taking you to a whale exhibit. Like this is like literally walking through death.

So I'm into fun ghost stories. I'm not into overly thinking about death. Like I got to shake it out of my bones right now. I'm into the ghost stuff. I just think it gets polluted with too much fake ghost stuff. You know, too, too many ghost stories get polluted with, You only like the real ones. Yeah, I like the legit one.

No, like people try to spin off a basement that's got a, you know, a faulty air conditioner that makes a buzzing noise. And then every, you know, it shoots out crap once every three weeks. And it's like, whoa, haunted. Like, no, you give me the real haunted stuff. I'm there. Give me some ghosts. I got some other ghost stuff. I'll tell you guys after the app.

We'll start ending shows with ghost stuff. Thank you guys very much for listening. We will be back tomorrow with the voicemail episode. and we hope you enjoy that as well. Goodbye. Farewell. Enjoy the baseball. Have a great day. Wrong button, Jimmy.