Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 191 | Voicemails: Baseball's Unwritten Rules, Plouffe's Historic Moments, and Where is Puig?

Episode Date: August 20, 2020

What's Yasiel Puig up to? (3:05) How confident should Astros fans be for this season? (13:35) The Tigers are calling up their prospects this week! (20:45) Which players would use the most pine tar if there were no rules at all? (25:45) The Marlins? (35:20) Brewers are heating up! (41:40) What's the future of 7 inning double headers? (46:10) Which unwritten rules are good? (48:55) What moments did Plouffe get to be a part of? (1:01:30) Leave a voicemail at 917-426-2796 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to Talking Baseball. We've got voicemails. No idea what we're talking about, but you guys do. I think some unwritten rules. How about that? Let's do it. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to Talking Baseball.

My name's Jimmy. Sitting next to me is Jake. In California, we got Trevor Plouffe and BBD behind the dish. Coming to you live from the Roosevelt Studios here in the Bronx. That's RSVLTS. Jake, how you doing? How you doing? BBD, how you doing?

How's everyone doing? Jake, how you doing? Good. Just saw a video on Twitter of a golden retriever, catching balls out of a dog, ball tosser thing. Looks really good. Field Yates commented on it.

I'm good, man. Baseball is rolling. A knock on wood. We're recording right before. We're hopefully getting not only a full slate of baseball, but 16 games because the Reds would be doing a double header. So that would be the first time that everyone, plays on the same day. I think we did.

There was some weird series thing with the Pirates. I think we did get it. We got a Saturday because we had it wrong when we did the episode. It was something with like the series, every series had started that week or something like that. But either way, baseball is going. I mean, COVID really hasn't been a story story. You know, there's still been some smaller things. Marcaicus, I think, just took a COVID-I-L stint because he wasn't sure he had it, but he was playing it safe. So, I mean, the fact guys are doing that is a good thing. And, you know, it helps to be the Braves and be top of the NLE East, so you can do that.

But the baseball's rolling. I keep pointing to the Homer list because it's the stars of stars on top of that. Baseball's good right now, man. I'm the Cali Bros. I'm straight up not having a good time. I'm straight up having a good time, Trevor Plouf. You just said a lot of words without really saying anything. So that was really impressive.

That's all I do. That's my career. That is a special gift that you have. Thank you. I'm also having a great time, though. Full slate of games, like you said, plus one. We kind of just talked about all of them on our series or our game preview that we recorded before this.

But it's the middle of the season, man. Cream's rising to the top. I keep saying that because it's true. I'm excited to watch the Reds play again. Moose is back, Flaherty's back. Here we go. All right, let's get straight into voicemails. Thank you to everyone who called in.

If you want to call it in the future, the voicemail number is 917-426-27-96. Voicemail No. No. What's up, my dudes? First off, against the Red Sox and the Yankees combined, taking three or four from the Yanks. I know that I heard you guys a little bit, but we are living to highlight down. here in Florida right now. Fun fact, unofficial

Saturday of the day. Michael Perez, the backup catcher for the Rays, has two walk-off wins leading the majors in that category, so that's pretty cool. Also, what happened to Yassal Pqueek? Ever since he tested positive, he was pretty much a shoe-in to go to the Giants, and all of a sudden he just felt

a face of error. So what's up with him and why somebody signing him? Love the show guys. Keep it up. Rays, keep on rolling. Let's go. All right. Thank you for calling in, Ray's fans. A little advice. Take out the Red Sox game. and just say that you're four and one against the Yankees.

That's much more impressive. Be embarrassed that you have one loss to the Red Sox. Yeah, because you're a Yankees fan, you can say, well, we're eight and four against the Ray's and the Red Sox, but that's all Red Sox wins. So you just can take the Red Sox out. Bragg about being four and one against the Yankees. No need.

The Red Sox are one of the worst teams in all baseball. But congrats. Who has the most walk-off hits? Michael Perez. Their backup catcher. Michael Perez. He's got two, which I'd assume is at least tied, if not the league leader at this point. How many hits does he have? Because that's kind of cool if he's just like, he's our walk-off guy. They just pinch hit him and gets a walk-off.

That's our dude. He had a hit last night. I think, hey, he might. Five hits on the season, two of them are walk-offs. That's a pretty good ratio. Keep doing it, brother. And catch Zanino because he ain't that good. Ooh. And what did happen with Pueg? He went to the Braves. Markeekis opted out. They picked up Pueek.

He tested positive. They said no, and they scrapped the deal. And, like, clearly he had to be... Is he just done? He's like, all right, whatever, I'll just sit it out. I did some reading on this, as you guys were just talking. Seems like the Baltimore Orioles have reported interest. I'd assume a lot of teams have interest.

Yeah, it's a bullshit word. that reporters use. And then Brandon Hyde doesn't rule out signing Yassel P. Do you guys see what's wrong with people covering baseball? Like, what are these articles? It's a lot of safety words. Bruce has interest. The word interest is used so loosely and fans eat it up.

And it means zero. Like, I have interest in living in Alaska for a year. That's not true. Part of me. Maybe when I'm old. Okay. Cool. Yeah.

I do that. I might tweet that out. I'm interested in the thought about it. Okay. So there you go. When you're old, you think there's no way. I don't think so. You're too much of a family guy.

Yeah, that's a fake report. I'm interested in doing that cruise to Alaska where it's like a three-month cruise. Okay. So I've interested in going to Alaska. That's blanket. It covers that. Empty nest. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a good empty nest vacation. Yeah, I mean, the Brandon Hyde doesn't rule out signing Yasel Pue. That sucks. I wonder if your... Baseball reporters suck. That's how one reporter can spin something. You say, hey, Brent Hyde, if you guys were about to sign Brandon Pueig, if you guys were about to sign Pueeg, would you rule that out?

And he says, no, I don't really... I'm not even the G. I don't even have saying that. And then say, would you be interested in having Pueke join your team? He says, yeah, I mean, that sounds interesting. And then bam, one guy writes two articles. Now there's Tweed rumors. It's so stupid.

I mean, this is how Ken Rosenthal wants us to tweet. I'm sick of it. You are sick of it. I'm sick of it, dude. I don't care. Thanks for listening. Trev, what, now let's say Pueig wants to play in this COVID season, which at this point, you know, we're a third of the way through. Is it worth diving in and going for it, or did you just catch your breath?

But let's say he does want to play. Are you straight up just tracking the injury wire? If I'm him? Yeah. I'm going to use the word. You have to gauge interest. There we go. And this is real interest.

You have to have your agent be like, look, do you guys see this happening at all? And then if you have a couple teams to say, look, we have a need, then you can say, okay, what's best for me? Like, where are my bats going to come from? You don't want to go to a team where they're like, hey, look, we don't know how many of bats you're going to get. You want to go play.

So you're going to take that into consideration. Is there someone I think I'm better than? Is there someone, did someone just get hurt? You know, where are they in the race? All of those things come into factor. I'd assume he's still doing baseball activity. I don't know how much you can really do during this time. If he did sign somewhere, he'd probably have to spend a week or two at the alternate site.

And then we'd see him. I think it would be cool to see Pueig like, you know, with three weeks left in the season, come back up to the show and help a team make a run. You know, I think he kind of gets a bad rap. I don't really know him personally, but let me tell you, he's better than some of the guys that are in the show right now. That's a fact. Yeah, a lot of guys. On the top of my head, I don't have a team that's like could really, is a frontrunner for a Pueig.

You got a team, Jimmer? I've got two that jump out. No, what are yours? If you've got them. Texas Rangers. I mean, they just took Dietrich off the streets and now he's doing stuff in their lineup. and that lineup needs help. And then it was my team I was on before the season

and the chat just brought it up, the live Patreon. Padres, I think he could just be another stick and lengthen that lineup just a little bit more. And I mean, fun factor? Yeah, he fits the fun factor for San Diego. This new no-rules Tatis with Pueig, Machado. Well, we're having fun. Tingler might not like him.

Oh, no chance, but Tingler's out. Dude, Tingler, someone just said Tingler like bunted Like they did a suicide squeeze And they're up five runs with hedges So Tingler doesn't even care about the rules It's just Tingler and Woodward being friends Like friends and The deeper you go, the more it's just those two guys suck

So then I blame it more on Woodward This whole thing because the way he reacted prompted everything else It's a bug eater Getting out of the dugout going, okay, okay Like come on dude I'll see you, I see you, that's how it is That's how it is

It is how it is, bro. I just had a grand slam. Your dude served up a 3-0 cookie and I took it oppo. Like, check me out. Big coaches talking smack season. Yeah, what's up with that? It's like the former player coaches

thinking they're still in the game. You ain't in the game, bro. Did you hear Buck Showalter's response on Yes, Network? And I don't know if this is true to who Buck was because I think he changed as a manager as he got older and stuff. But I thought there's a really good opinion by a former manager. Like, hey, my plus. players aren't bothered by it.

I can't. I shouldn't tell them how to feel. I played in a different era than them, so, you know, it's them. I also liked how he said, if you want to quit, just give me a thumbs up or thumb down. I'll shut it down if you want. Buck is funny. I talk about this. I just lost my training.

That's okay. I'll delay for a second because that's all I do. I just speak and nothing comes out like you mentioned. Jim, I saw you like the tweet, and it's from someone that we, like a lot, Marley Rivera, because people were saying like, hey, Buck show author's got a couple old stories in the tank that he would not have liked a 3-0 swing with a big lead like that. And Marley Rivera, and then, oh, no, I think another writer said something about like, this isn't

the buck I knew in Texas. Yeah. And I think somehow women in the clubhouse came up or something. And I think Buck had a bad quote back in the day. And then Marley said that Buck was like a leader for him. Like he had turned around on whatever happened, and it kind of goes back to this thing that America as a whole has forgotten, that like, you can change and adapt.

And then we'll like, you can be good. So did you find it, Trev? Yeah, this is, I reference this all the time. So I feel like every generation thinks the next generation is screwed. Something's happening, and it's going to ruin civilization as we know it. And I reference Elvis. back in the day Elvis was the devil he moved his hips in a bad fashion

you can't watch this Elvis guy because he's the devil okay Elvis didn't end the world and it goes on and on and now we have people talking about Cardi B and making the stallion video that's going to ruin civilization as we know it dude let the next generation do their thing okay you raise them and let them go

it's going to be fine. I didn't like when they were eating Tidepots. Yeah. That wasn't a thing. That wasn't a real thing. I didn't like that one. That wasn't fun. Or when they were going to grocery stores and eating Bluebell ice cream out of the freezer

than putting it back in. I was out on that too. No, you're doing what those people want you to do. You're sensationalizing stupid little things. I know. So same thing happens in baseball. Every old player is like, that's not how I play. the game well guess what you're not in the game anymore things evolve if you go back into the 30s

you probably did something different in the 60s that those guys in the 30s didn't like so like dude everything's going to be fine i can't stand the guys that forget that they come and they get in positions of power and they just want to say no this is the way the game's played and nothing else matters like get out of here like things evolve and the game right now with all the young guys in is in in hands. Yeah, I agree. Was that the whole voicemail? I think so.

How do we end up where we ended up? Fuck show, Walter. Pueig joining the Padres. Chase Tingler getting fired. Yeah, wow, what a route. Okay, next voicemail. We got there. Hey, guys, Harry from Huddersfield in England here,

calling about my Houston Astros. It's half-11 UK time, I've just seen the end of the Astros Rockies game where we won what I think was our sixth game in a row I'm happy obviously but the thing is I'm not actually convinced with that good

the hitters just start getting going which is maybe side-sealing related but I'd like to think not and I just don't know how sustainable the rookie pitching we're seeing at the minute to the Lander and you're done and the entire bullpen and today George Fringer

with a, I think it was a wrist brain. I just can't shape the feeling that in a normal season, we'd only be like an 85 win team, max, which I'm just not used to, at least in the last couple of years. That's it, guys. Love the show. Cheers. Cheers. British fan. British Astros fan.

So he said I'm not used to them losing. I wasn't trying to knock it. I'm guessing if you're a British fan and an Astros fan, it's somewhat new. He said recent. Is that recent? He said in recent years. Okay. Well.

Okay, cool. Yeah, I don't. The Astros don't seem like a team for a deep playoff run right now to me. But they are winning. They're starting to come back, but they were the worst record against good teams. I wonder if that's changed at all. I'll tell you what. They're starting pitching has been excellent.

Yeah. I know. which is kind of out of nowhere. I mean, their worst guy is the guy that you'd probably think was going to have the best season besides that Grinky, Lance McCullors. I'm pretty bad. If he gets going and the other guys kind of stay the course, I mean, we know the lineup's going to hit, dude.

Like, even Al-Tube is going to come around. So this is a team, man. I don't know. They're going to make the playoffs. They're going to make the playoffs. They have Grinky, who had a really fun start. yesterday. Awesome. Awesome. Pitchers do well. Man, some of the guys that are pitching really well for them, I mean, Brandon Belak, 21 innings, 169 ERA. Christian Javier has a couple really nice

starts. 21 innings, 291 ERA. Both of those guys are at about a strikeout per inning. The question that I think is going to come down to, and A, you know, maybe that pitching coach, what's the old pitching coach's name? I think he's pretty good at his job. Bram, Brent, Brent, Brent, Strom. I was all over it. I think he's pretty good. I mean, obviously, look at the work he's done with Furlander and Cole. I think they also have a, they have some good pine tarred down there for whatever that means to you.

But, yeah, regular season, you should have no worries. But Jim and I talked about this on J.J.R. a little bit this morning, you know, playoff series, who's your three? who's your five. And Grinky, yeah, absolutely believe in Grinky. Is Framber the guy? I don't know. Is McCuller's going to step up and be the guy? I don't know. Because then you start going through some of those names and you kind of got to see it to believe it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. They did. They are on a six-game winning streak. They just won two against Colorado, which is a team that's above 500. So they look good. But it doesn't add up and the A's look really good. So it doesn't add up that it's sustainable, but they probably won't see the A's in the series.

So, you know, can they win the short series and make to the next round, the DS and then a five game set? They're a good team. I mean, the AL is a shallow league. The NL is a little deeper, and I still think they're in that shallow end, I guess. Is that how the analogy would work with the Yankees and the twins and the Rays and the A's? I would love to see them go into the playoffs and just cause some havoc. just for the storylines that people would just talk and talk and talk out of Houston. Are they going to win the World Series?

Absolutely not. But it would be fun for them to go and knock off a team first round. I'm rooting for that. I'm rooting for them to face the team that no one saw making the playoffs, the Orioles or the White Sox, like the new young. Yeah, right now that's who it would be. It would be the Orioles and the White Sox would be the last two teams in. Tommy, if the Astros.

Astros or Orioles would be hilarious match. But I think right now, and that's where, and Jakey trying to make this season a little more important, the seeding will be interesting. Can they catch the A's? Because right now, I believe the Astros would be the six seed, so they would play the three, which would either have them tied with, you know, it would be the A's or the Rays right now, which both of those teams are in much better spot right now.

So interesting to see if they fully get it going and can catch the athletics because they do look really good. Is there a website that says like if the playoffs started now? There's got to be one, I feel. It's not hard to do right now. It's very hard to do, Trev. Very hard. If they were the six seed, is that what they would play the three seed? Does that make sense?

Yes. Yeah. Wouldn't it be cool if there's a website? No, right now it would be the twins or the A's. I mean, they're tied for second and third in the in the AL. So who's got the best record in the AL right now? Yankees. Yankees.

New York together. Yankees 16 and 7, twins, and Athletics 16 and 8. So the Yankees would play the Orioles right now? They would play the eight seed, yes. Orioles. Cool. Orioles are starting to slide on us. Someone make that website or send me the link.

It's MLB.com. MLB.com? They got ahead of this one, huh? But MLB.com slash. It's not labeled that way, but sort standings by league, and then it's just the top eight. But that's not how it works. He wants them to be matched up DVD. He doesn't want to even add eight to one.

I know I can do that, but that's not how it works. Let's see. It's the division one season, two seeds don't, their records. You know, a two seed in one division can be higher. It adds up right. right now it adds up right because it won't always someone make that website for me there's too much going on you get the division

winners then the wild cards so like a two seed in the east could have a better like do the rays have a better record than a one seed somewhere right now no that doesn't matter I don't think because all the one seeds are one two three yeah that's why it's weird that's why they should have just once you got into the playoffs done it by

kind of yeah we're not a math pod never never been accused of that I don't know what this voicemail was, but we're going to move on. That was the Astros guy? Yeah. Thank you from England. Thank you. Yeah.

Hey, guys. Tiger fan in Maryland here. Tigers are calling up three of the top six prospects this week, including Casey Mize, number one draft pick a few years ago. I'm excited, but this was unexpected. Do you think other teams are going to follow suit? And why do you think the tigers are doing this? We didn't think they were going to do this and use all their service time. So I do think it's a little unexpected.

but I think what happened was they were kind of good and they kind of said, oh, wait, if we get that spot, we can make some money. Also, some of these kids were ready, you know, some of them are ready and they're not going to be able to pitch and you want your prospects to be able to pitch in games. And if the minor leagues aren't there, then maybe you just get the year of value and goes out the window.

But yeah, I was a little surprised they called them up. But if you're going to call them up at all this season, do it so they get a handful of starts. So it's kind of good timing by them. And then also all the one-year contracts they got, I wonder if they're trying to shop them. The trade deadline is less than two weeks away. And I wonder if they're just saying, why wouldn't they? Like trying to shop is a very loose term. It's kind of like interested in.

Right. And they should be trying to shop all their one-year contracts. None of those guys are part of the long-term plan with the tiger. So I don't know, Jake. Why do you think they called them up? A couple things going on here. Our tigers, and again, we've kind of gotten lost in this small sample size. The tigers that we're doing good and having fun have now lost seven straight.

It's coming out from under them. I think, Jim and Trevor, you can correct us on this a little bit. We were kind of tough on the tigers because we didn't see the roadmap at all. I think Nico Goodrum, Victor Reyes is a young player, Harold Castro, or Willie Castro, that was me, I think. Isaac Paredes gets the call.

We're starting to have a group of names now. So you know what? I think they thought Matt Boyd would be good. I know he's on your stinks terribly list and deservedly so. Spencer Turnbull's having a nice year. I think, you know, if you start putting together a couple more bodies, this team picture really comes together. So I don't think it was for a playoff push this year. I'm guessing just in whatever the Detroit Tigers roadmap is, their plan for 2021 or 2022, this is kind of what they have planned.

So I don't know. If you're a Tigers fan, be excited. You're getting to see some of your young talent. Yeah, I think it's a mixture of kind of what Jimmy said. And they probably saved the year of service time by waiting. this long to call them up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, they're going to not give away a year.

And I really do believe that they want these guys pitching in games. So this is the only way right now you're going to get into pitch in real games. And why not, man? Let's see what you got. Spent a lot of money on these guys in the draft, at least one of them. I don't know the draft positions of the other guys, but when you have a guy like Mize, you want to see what you got. So I think this is a great year.

an excellent opportunity for clubs to have their guys go get major league experience. And I think that's what we're going to see here. If one of these guys comes and shows that he's a dude, that's awesome. Yeah. And maybe this just came into my head. Maybe it's not even necessarily playing Major League baseball, but it's playing baseball. That's what I said.

There's no way for him to play baseball at all. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah. No way that. You can't simulate game speed. So this is, they want to get these guys and make sure they don't lose a year of development. And if they got to do it at the big league level, they got to do it at the big league level.

Yeah, it makes sense. That's what we heard about Dane Dunning, who's coming up for the White Sox today. They're like, well, he hasn't pitched since 2018. And if we don't call him up to the bigs, he's not going to pitch for a long time. So Thomas Gensry in the patron chats says Matt Boyd needs to get it together. Thomas, I got bad news for you. That ain't happening. Unlike Bundy, who had the peripherals and the stuff,

Boyd has neither the stuff nor the results. He had huge strikeout numbers last year. Boyd? Yeah. But that, they don't match as expected. I mean, I'm just telling you, like, big strikeout numbers last year. Do you see, have you looked at it? Like, pitchers list is so in on Boyd, and he's been getting killed by them.

Yeah, well, he's just, they should be off them. Okay. Look at this. That's bad. It's bad. Bad. It's been big bad.

Next. Boyd's my Bundy for me. Yeah. What's up, guys? This is Sean Colin from Chicago, watching Sunday night baseball, and just thinking, you know,

I'm looking at Francisco Indoor just caked up with pine tar. And I know Jimmy's done a lot of work covering pine tar with pitchers. And I was just wondering if it was accepted, if it were legal, who would be coming out looking like Lindor, looking like old school,

Mani Ramirez, looking like the old guy from Major League, who's coming out with the most pintar, just wherever they can fit it. Thanks for all the work. Appreciate it. Make baseball fun. Bye.

So pitchers, because hitters, obviously are pintard up, like Lindor Pasad. It's so fun to put pine tar on your bat. Is that fun? It's like for a hockey player like taping your stick,

like taking, care of it and all that. That's a, yeah. Some guys will have the bad boys do it because they just have a method. But I love taking a new bat. You go, you get the pine tar stick. You go get the actual pine tar. You go get some ross in.

And you just lather it on there, make it look real show. And you let it sit for a day and you're ready to go. It's so fun, man. It smells so good. I actually really miss the smell of pine tar. I need to buy some pine tar. Get yourself a pine tar candle I don't know if I like pine tar that much

Just a few little whiffs of it Okay get yourself a pine tree candle Okay I have an answer If a pitchers were allowed to be just decked out in pine tar Which pitcher would be the most pine tart up I have someone in mind Do you guys have any one to go first?

I have one in mind We're either in lockstep or we're in opposites Okay Fernando Rodney. Oh, okay. Opposites. I think Fernando Rodney would be just all over. Just oldest guy in baseball.

Yep. Looking for as much help as he can get. I think you'd just see him going like different places in between each pitch. Okay. I got one. Trev? Garrett Cole. He's a fan of it already.

It revived his career. Or it didn't revive it. it turned his career into a freaking rocket ship. I don't think anybody's benefited from a pine tar mixture more than Garrett Cole. Maybe. You know. It's a line. You don't know.

Every pitcher uses it. We talked to pitchers at spring training who showed us the pine tar in their hat, and they were remain nameless, and said, I can't even have a catch without it. Yeah, no, everybody uses it, but he got the, good stuff. When he went to Houston, and we talked about it all the time, when he went to Houston, he became Garrett Cole. Yeah. And I don't think

he, like, changed his pitch mix completely. He stopped throwing a two-seamer, started throwing a four-seamer. Because he got the good stuff that gave him excellent spin efficiency and spin rate on his four-seamer. There's a coal argument. Verlander might be a guy, too. Yeah, I think Verlander did the same thing.

There's a coal argument to be made. Wolf in the chat just got me. And hey, we just talked about the Astros young guys twirling it pretty well. So whatever they got going on down there is helping a lot of people. I'm going Bauer. But Bauer's whole thing has been in it, it's not legal. Can't use it. I can't use it. I can't use it. It's not legal. So if they made it legal, I think Bauer would peacock too hard with it. And he'd have. And he's using it's for sure using it. He said his spin rate would jump up 400. What is the thing? MPRPS. RPMs. He said, if I use Bullfrog, my spin rate or Spin Efficient, he would jump up 400 RPMs.

His spin rate jumped up 400 RPMs this season. It's the most ever. Have you checked him out? Have you seen if he's been touching or what? I think he admitted he used it last, the last game last season and said, if you don't care, I'm using it. And now his spin rate, it's the biggest jump in spin rate we've ever seen in MLB. I saw something that he was tops in spin rate in like four different pitch categories. So obviously it seems like he's using it now,

which is like, you know, pitchers, man, these freaking pitchers, the prima donna BS, and then they go and do this. All the unwritten rules, which I think we're going to get into soon, and then they do this. It's crazy, man. But no one, like, no one cares. Like, there's still people that realize that the vast majority of pitchers don't use it. Like, if you watch any pitcher, they'll thumb their hat in between every pitch.

I don't care that much. But also, like, if you're going to call people out for doing stuff, like, that's something that you're going to get called out for. Yeah, Bauer put himself in a tough spot because he was anti-against it. And then said, if I used it, this would happen. And now that's happened. Well, you know why. I mean.

Because he doesn't like call. It's a contract here. Contract here. Oh, yeah. Turn those RPMs up. Yeah. So, yeah, that's kind of... And another topic that we may be getting into later.

How about you just make a damn rule about it? You know, put a little dollop on each ball. Put a little bag out there or something so that we have rules on it so people don't have to tweet at Jim seven days a week and say, Whoa! Spencer Turnbull with something funny on his arm. Well, all they need to do is change the baseballs. Or, yeah, like give a uniformed thing that every pitcher can use or change the baseballs.

Like, they experimented with some tacky baseballs. I think they might use them in the Japanese league. But when you're getting guys, like a jump like that, like a bump, that's cheating. It's cheating. Like, you're improving. It's a performance-enhancing object. Like, like, like, like, can I, can I put a cork in my bat now? Because you guys are cheating and you're making your pitches spin faster.

Can I put something in my bat to make it go farther when I hit the ball? Can I do that? Because it's the same fucking thing. Good point, Trev. One point, Trev. Thank you. Well, they'll combat that with, hey, dude, do you want me to, like, not know where the ball's going and, like, hit you all the time? But the thing there is.

That's not what they're using it for. Well, and even that argument doesn't make sense. because Jake and I always say, well, if you can't control it when you throw it 99 miles per hour, but you can control it when you throw at 95, well, then you throw 95 mile per hour fastballs. But if Pintar now lets you control that 99, now you throw a 99 mile per hour fastball. So, yeah, I'd rather you not have control and have to take a little off to be able to control it. But the main thing is right now, every pitcher uses it, and no, It's up to the opposing team to call out the pitcher,

and no opposing team is going to do that because then their pitcher will be called out. So that's where we're at. But like the call video where his fingers sticking to his glove, that's like people are acting like that's brand new information. You saw Kukuchi had a goo factory underneath his hat last year. It was the most pine tart up I've ever seen a pitcher, and no one cares.

I wouldn't say nobody cares because a lot of hitter. care, but it's just like, dude. No, it's up to the teams to police it and teams aren't policing it. So maybe I'll go on a Twitter rant about it and get a rule change because I think it is a performance enhancing thing. It really is. And hey, a little dark side of Jakey. What if, you know, let's say it's game seven of a playoff series and let's say Scher

doesn't. He's a freak. He's awesome. He doesn't use Pintar. And then the other pitcher on the other team does. I mean, to win a series? Let's go, baby. I love that.

I mean, like, M.O.B. who did that? Davey, who was the old manager of the nationals? Davy Johnson. Davy Johnson. Do you remember he did it against the race? I think it was Joel Peralta. And he had pitched for, it was either like Joe Madden did it to Davy Johnson or

vice versa. But Joel Peralta had pitched for one of them, and they knew it. So they sent him out, sent the umpire out and said, go look right here. you're going to find some shit. And then they set themselves up. The brim of every hat and the forearm of every pitcher is loaded with stuff. Belt is another one.

This is my thing. When pitchers say that, and I think we can move on after it. But did you grow up using bullfrog and pine tar? No, you could throw the ball growing up when you're playing Little League baseball when it was 100 degrees and you could control the ball then. It didn't slip out of your hand and kill every. single person that you were pitching to.

It's such a BS excuse. Because they just want to be better. They want better grip. Yeah, no kidding you want better grip. Because like Jim says, then you could just throw the shit out of everything and you're able to control it. When, if you didn't have that, you might have to slow things down a little bit. Yeah.

All right. Next. We got more. We've been chatting. Hey, guys. I love the pod. No strong feelings on Jake's level of sucking. Actually, it's my chalky guys, but I'm actually a huge Marlins fan.

And though I've been loving the national tension, our teams began recently, pretty realistic about what our chances are this season. Just wondering if you guys think there's any chance to fish really make some moves and go for it this year. Also, unrelated, I feel like almost all sports struggle with the annoying delay of instant replays. So I feel like a great way to solve that is you have the replay officials quickly determine the call, and then they make the call live on the Jumbotron. The fans go wild. I mean, don't have to watch the Ump stand. they're like idiots with headsets for five minutes and know the game. Talks.

This guys. Love the pop. Thank you for calling in. No, I don't think the Marlins have an actual chance of being good this year. But they're fun. More fun than they, you thought they'd be.

They've lost four in a row. Yeah, the replays a more interesting conversation. I don't understand why theumps have to go walk over and put the headphones on and listen. There's zero part of that, that needs to happen at all. Just have the people watching it tell,

just have the people watching it, like, make the call. All the umps don't need to confer. Like you can send, you can keep the fieldumps on the field. The home plate ump can look behind at someone who has headphones on in the dugout already. And that person can just tell the um, save for out. I don't, there's no reason for multiple umps in the crew chief

to have to run and put the headphones on. So I don't know. Jim, can I jump in on the Marlins take you have? Yeah. Your favorite stat wins above 500 teams. In all of the American League, only one team has a winning record against teams above 500.

It is the New York Yankees at 7 and 6. Nice. Every other team is... Oh, excuse me, Minnesota also does two at 5 and 2. I missed that one. Every other team is either at 500 or below 5. 500 in those games. The Marlins, leading the way, well, depends how you look at. I guess the Dodgers are 9 and 4, but the Marlins are 7 and 3. So they got Jimmy's dumb stat, and they're doing

it. So do I think they're going to make the playoffs or add players? Yeah, that stat will change drastically when the Orioles lose today. I think they have four wins against the Orioles, and the Orioles are technically over 500. When the Orioles lose today, I think the Marlins lose. I think that might stay, though. I don't know how it works. It works on what the day. I think it's not time of.

It's not when you beat them. It's at the end. Interesting. Not sure about that. The Marlins, yeah, I don't know. I mean, they added some talent. Again, like Aguilar at first base. Corey Dickerson.

Forsyth, now leading the way at DH, having a tough start. since he's been at it. Yeah, I mean, don't get excited. The Phillies have started to figure it out. That team's got a lot more talent, even though their bullpen as do-do. Sorry for the language. They've got a couple guys pitching that are young and good. Pablo Lopez, Eliezer Hernandez.

I'm not sure who you're going to add. We don't know what the trade deadline is going to look like, but it's tough to picture the Marlins being big-time buyers for whatever is available. But you know what? Keep winning games and make it a discussion. Trevor's been on his cream thing he kept saying. And yeah, I think, you know, could there very easily be a day that we look back at that Orioles Marlin series and being like, whoa. Yep, absolutely.

And that day could be pretty soon, especially the Mets trying to save their season. And they've been bully in the Marlins this week. So, Cervelli, though, 818 OPS. What do you got? What's Jeets plans? for the Marlins. Is it a rebuild, let's lose, get some high draft picks type thing? Do they have a bunch of top prospects?

I'm trying to kind of look that up. I can't really find that page they were always on. I got you, big daddy. How many years has Jets had with this team so far? Three? Two, three? Three, well, Stanton was the Yankee in 18, 19? This is the third year.

I just, I don't know if he's like come out with, like, like a plan like you know i feel like a lot of the new guys will come in and say this is our plan this is what we're going to this is what we're going to do clearly they he's getting rid of payroll and doing all of that how other prospects jake do you have it up they're on a two-year plan yeah it's the it's the fan graphs roster resource page if you're trying to click over there okay i'm on it now all of their top 10 prospects are eta 20 20 2021 a couple of those guys got the call early because of the COVID stuff Jazz Chisholm's the wild card. He's big-time shortstop prospect. They traded Zach Gallen straight up for him.

Zach Gallen, who's been shoving for the deback. So they believe in Jazz Chisholm and if he pans out, which he has the chance to. Cool name. Supposed to be a talented player. And yeah, they took Max Meyer in the draft this year. Jesus, Jake, deep cuts. Ooh, Minnesota boy. Yeah, he's supposed to be one of the quickest risers in the draft.

He's supposed to be amongst the case he misers and those kind of guys. So, yeah, I think it's a two. year plan to have their young guys set up. Brian Anderson's really solid ball player. They need more around it. So we're looking 2023-ish for real competitive streak from the Marlins. I think they're hoping for 2022. Okay.

They do have one, two, three, four, five guys in the top 100 prospect list. One guy at 105. So I'll give them six. Some young pitchers already doing it. Tough, tough division. I think, dude, it'd be amazing for Miami to have a good baseball team. That's such a good baseball city. Like, that Latin culture there loves baseball.

Give them something good, Jets. Come on, man. Come on, Jeets. Come on, Jeets. All right. Next up. Hey, guys, it's Sam again, and I just got done watching the Brewers take three out of four from the Cubs. And I just want to talk about really the story of the brewer's season,

which has been their eight and nine hitters. they put up a 393 average and 433 on base percentage this series and the last two games Rcia and Arias hit 8-9 they hit over 500 with two triples and a home run and Arias has just been unreal this season he's batting over 400 and that's crazy with Keston and Yelly just heating up now I think the Brewers are putting themselves in a position

to make the playoffs and could make a pretty deep run with it this year. That's what I think. All right. Take care. Bye. All right. Brewers are heating up. They just almost got no hit by the twins.

What do you got on the Brewers? I'm very confused. I look at their team and their standings a lot. Trev? They haven't hit at all. Yeah. They've been cold. Bronnie's been super cold.

Yelie's been cold. I mean, if you look at their team, they have a 73 OPS plus. That's not going to get it done. The pitching's actually been okay. But they're one of those teams, man. Like they just find a way. Like, it always seems like in a regular season in September, there's the Brewers.

Like, they get hot at the right time. Will that happen again this year? Like maybe pretty much every damn team's going to make the playoffs. So it's a tough division there that NL Central, we've talked about at a ton. It wouldn't surprise me if the brewer's snuck in there, maybe made a move or two. They know this might be bronze.

last year. They got, they kind of got a core they like there. I could see him, I could see him making a move. I don't know what it would be. Do they need a Pueeague? Ooh.

That'd be fun. I kind of love that. Pueg would be pretty fun on that team. Kane opted out. Ooh, I like that, Trev. Yeah, I think, I'll go positive spin mode. They are second to last in the National League and batting average on base and OPS.

and they are one game under 500. So your offense has been doing as bad as it could be, and you know you have some guys that should turn it around to what degree. I mean, Christian Yellich with a 189 batting average, you know, I'd bet against that. Manny Pena's been like your best hitter so far. So the fact that your team has been struggling that much offensively and is still near 500 in the shortened season,

be happy with that. Yeah, the sticks will get going. Man, you talk about a shot of life. Pweed, baby. I don't think Pugueh's going to play anywhere. Probably not. Yeah. I don't know either.

I do know that Braun will pick it up. He's thinking this is probably his last year. He doesn't want to go out, like what he's doing. I watched him hit yesterday against Rogers, I think it was, in the ninth. Bad at bat, took a fastball in and swung a two sliders. See you see it. That's not typical Bron. So I expect him to get going.

Obviously, Yelich is going to be there. And if he's saving it all for the end of the season, look out teams. Like, this is a guy that's going to get back to his numbers, and that means he's probably going to hit like 400 over the last month or so. And that wouldn't surprise me at all. So, I mean, this team, it's a crazy division. We know that. They have seven games against Pitt coming up.

and four against Detroit. So you got to win 10 of those games if you're the Brewers. Where are they in the standings right now? Third? Or is it still all funky? They're in second. Right ahead of the Cardinals. Right ahead.

And they play the Cardinals a bunch and a bunch of them are doubleheaders. So that division's too weird to even look at. Cubbies look good. but there's so much still to happen. Haters' haircut's weird. Woodruff's been good. Like their pitching has been solid. So they're, like you said,

just the fact that they're hanging in and their offense has been this bad, they're kind of a team to watch. All right, next. Hey, guys, he's Brian, calling from Middletown, first time, long time. I was calling thinking about the double-headers and watching the gangs.

Boone said the first game, wasn't long enough and the second one was just on enough. Got me thinking what about kind of a double header where the first game is a nine inning game and the second game is a seven inning game. I don't know, it's just an idea.

I know the players are used to those seven inning double headers. I thought maybe this would be a good idea to test out if they want to do that moving forward. I don't know, just want to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Go yanks. All the, thank you for the call. All the return

About the double-headers, his players love it. So I don't think they're looking to change it. Boone was just joking because the first game they were about to come back and then the game ended and the second game they won. So his, the first game, wasn't long enough and the second game was just a joke because that fit the scoreboard for his team. But yeah, do you guys have anything long on this one? We should keep it short.

The players like it. I don't see a reason to add more. I think in this season when there's going to be a shitload of doubleheader, seven innings each makes sense. But like in a regular season when there's just kind of like one or two, like on accident, I think nine's the number. Playing nine innings is what you are accustomed to and that's just real baseball. It's kind of gimmicky right now. Classic fan. If you're up after seven, it feels right.

If you're down after seven, you feel shorted. Looking at the fifth inning and being like, oh, no, is a weird. feeling. I'm starting to feel the mercy rule, man. I love the mercy rule. The debate is on the number. The one in my head is like 10 runs after 7, something like that. That way the fans still get a show. And, man, Jim, you pointed this out to me the first time.

And I guess it's kind of known because Paul O'Neill was talking about it. But if you had a crowd, you're down, you're up nine runs. One swing puts you over, maybe free hot dogs if the team blows them out. You remember that? Like playing Little League baseball? That's what I'm saying. You do the walk-off 10th run. It's a thing.

Celebrate it. It's cool. Do you think teams would just be like, fuck it. Like, let's let this guy score right here. How, Matt, yes. Oh, I missed that ground ball in the outfield. Every single runner scored. Shit.

How mad would Tingler be? Ten run walkoff? Jordan Alvarez out for the year. That's a blow. Bang. That's a blow to my fantasy team. we drafted him very early, Meantzac. Yeah, Johnny B. Baker just announced that.

Next. Hey, Jimmy, Jake, Trevor, B.D. Hunter here from Charlotte. This whole Rangers Padre's Unwritten Rules thing has really got me pissed off, to be honest here. I can't believe this has been a thing that Fernando Tati is getting lame for swinging at a horrible 3-0 pitch and hitting a grand slam for it. I think he should be congratulated, which seems like most people are except for the managers. but it has got me thinking here, what do you guys think are actual unwritten rules in baseball that do matter? You know, to quote Alex Bregman,

how we like how the game police is itself is itself. I like that one a little bit. You know, maybe don't steal when you're up by 10 runs. But if you want to hit Grand Plans, but three-o pitches, by all means, I would love to hear you guys thought. Yes, we knew this call was coming, unwritten rules that we do like.

I found a website with a bunch of unwritten rules, and it turns out I like a lot of them. Okay. I don't like the 301 because that's, you know, hurting. We'll see where I land and why we land places, I guess. Don't steal bases when you're up by a large margin. I do think there is a number where you can take it base to base. I don't think it calls for getting thrown at or anything crazy,

but I do think it just looks bad if you're the player. Well, I go back and forth on this one because obviously if you're doing that at that point of the game, there's a couple of things you could be trying to do. One pad your stats, that's the most likely. Get a stolen base for free. The other could be like trying to get into scoring position for your boy at the plate. But if you wanted to counter that and hear the team losing by a ton of runs or the team winning by a ton of runs, just don't cover the base.

It's not a stolen base if there's no intent to throw. Yeah. It's catchers indifference. Don't give the guy what he wants them. Like, I don't know. I'm, like, totally indifferent on them because I don't think it affects the game whatsoever. It just feels like a mutual handshake all around.

Like, teams don't steal as much anymore. If it's a blowout, like, let's go base to base. You don't want to get hurt. Maybe that's me watching too many Yankee games, but, like, just don't. If you're holding, if I'm a base dealer and you're holding me on and you pick over one time, I am skinness, I will attempt to steal a base. Yeah, that's fair. That's totally fair.

Don't you dare pick over and then get mad at me for stealing a base. That's fair. That's totally fair. All right. This is a very tricky one because it's not actually gameplay. It's just kind of your own clubhouse. Interested here, you feel about this one, Treve. If you're a reliever or a pitcher and you get pulled,

you have to stay in the dugout to the inning ends and watch how it unfolds. I like that. It's not an unwritten rule. That's just like, don't be a P-U-S-S-Y. Yeah, but I think that goes in the unwritten territory where a teammate would be like, hey, we don't do that. That's kind of how you please under-laws. Yeah, because you support your team.

We have had this happen in my clubhouse before. It caused a big riff, almost a fist fight. That is something that has nothing to do with the actual game. game score anything that's just respect bro you paid this mess now go support the guy that's trying to get you out of it yeah in theory that is that that one's doesn't really seem like an unwritten rule it's just like it's like it's like it's almost off the field unwritten rules too yeah there's a bunch of those it's a combo so be ready for i think 100% you have to stay out there and watch how that ending goes yeah don't step on the pitcher's mound that's the dallas

braiden one and who else got mad at that recently the guy who eats lizards Michaelis, Miculus or Michaelis. Michaelis. I don't care about that one. I don't get it. Get over it. What about this one, Trev?

Don't walk in front of the catcher. Now, everyone does this. When you go across the plate, you walk behind the catcher and behind the other batters box. If you're on the third base dugout, but you're a lefty, you go behind. You don't walk in front.

Everyone does this. No one walks in front. So when you think about it, I don't know if this is just kind of like dogs lift their leg to pee because they see other dogs lift their leg to pee and there's no other reason it does it? Is this something that you're told? Is it just kind of happenstance? Everyone walks behind the ump and the catcher. I'm thinking about it now, dude. I have no idea. I would walk behind just so it's like a longer walk, because you kind of feel yourself a little bit.

You hear your walk-up song a little bit longer if you do that. But maybe it has something to do with like if there's runners on and you can interfere with play. If you walk in front, you might be in fair territory. I've never even heard this one. This article says, I think they're just bullshitting because every batter does do it. They walk behind. They say hi to the catcher, high to the hump. It's interesting. I don't know if that's an under and roll or just kind of how it goes, but it'd be interesting to see a guy walk in front because I think it would be a little bit jarring. Or maybe I'll know somebody to. What's that? I'll tell somebody. Walk in front. I wonder if guys do it accidentally too. I don't know. I think there's definitely guys that

walk in front because they give like the shin guard tap with the bat, which I think is brutal. I was thinking about that too, but I always picture them coming around. Yeah. Interesting. All right. I've never heard that one. I've never seen it written down either, but these are unwritten. Don't bunt during a no-hitter.

If it's a close game and you're bunting to get on base in a 1-0-0-0-game, I'm fine with it. But other than that, yeah, don't bunt during a no-hitter. Dude, I tweeted this yesterday. Yeah. I don't, why not? Why is the pitcher telling me how to do my job? You do your job. Let me do my job.

If I'm a guy that has speed, or even if you're going to play me back, clearly you're playing me back for a defensive advantage. You're going to shift for a defensive advantage for you. Don't tell me what I can do with the bat. I'll bunt whenever the fuck I want to bunt. You do your job, I'll do mine. I think if you're like Buxton and you have speed and it's part of your game. It don't matter, dude.

If they're playing you back, it's for defensive purposes because they want to get you out. That's a good point. It's a really good point. The normal view when you think about it is from like a fan perspective, kind of with Trev. Dude, it's all, like a lot of these unwritten rules, they only favor the pitcher, and that's my problem with them. Give me an unwritten rule that favors the hitter. I don't know. This next one's not even, it says never make the first or third out of the inning at third base.

That's just a strategic. That's not really an unwritten rule. It's just. Yeah, that's. I think that got debunked, too. I think we want to be aggressive. and I get, I guess I get it, but like you still want to be aggressive.

Don't make the second out. They're getting into strategy now. Now that said, don't use your closer in a tie game on the road, that's just strategy. It's not like a, oh, what about this? Don't yell anything when an opposing fielder is trying to catch a ball. You saw A-Rod say, I got it, and then it dropped.

I'm all, this should be allowed. You're an infield. You're an infielder now, so this caters to infielders. It's a loud ass stadium. Why can't you do this? Yeah, I don't know how I feel about it. I don't really care because I don't think it would affect me that much. Like the whole I got it, I got it thing is kind of that would affect you, I guess.

But it's never really happened to me. I don't know how I would feel. It's not really show. Because A-Rod did it. Yeah, okay. For adult fans, if you catch a ball, give it to a kid nearby. I think that one gets harped on too much. Like my dad caught a ball once and wanted to.

to bring it home to my brother who was like five at the time and the whole crowd was booing him and yelling at him because he didn't give it to the kid next to him and my dad was like I have a son that's gonna want this ball yeah I bet and everyone was booing him so that's funny I can I say this I think the crowd still had a right to boom it's fun just because what you don't know if it's all in good fun right but some people take that some people like our asses the world sucks yeah that many others. Can you think of any others that you like or dislike? When you mentioned the pitcher watching from the dugout,

I mean, again, I went into the whole off-this field on written rules, and it's like you talk to the media after the game, because otherwise your guys have to face the media. Be accountable. Yeah, so if you start going there, I mean, that feels like its own realm. Otherwise, I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to think of some good ones. I mean, like I said, most of the ones,

that we talk about most frequently are pitcher-related to give them an advantage. So I'm against it. I'm taking a stand. I think it's all BS. Everything that we've talked about today, it's all about giving pitchers advantage. Pyn tar. All these stupid unwritten rules. When you can swing, when you can bunt, when you can steal.

Get out of here, man. ERA is not even a stat they care about anymore, so why do they care? Get your own coffee. Oh, I got one. I'm just thinking of things people didn't like A-Rod. I got one. I didn't like A-Rod. This is off the field.

This is off the field and it's kind of stupid. But, you know, now it's like you're a young guy and like they, like, you can act like you've got 10 years in the show when you don't. One of the rookies is carrying beer for the bus ride. That's just going to happen no matter what. One of you rookies is going to carry my beer and when I ask for a beer, you're going to go get it. Some of that stuff's not like, yeah, it's kind of,

like a little hazing or not hazing. Just a little hazing or initiation is the better word. Like the Yankees, the last guy in the bullpen always wore the pink backpack that was full of bubble gum. Yeah. Yeah, that's their job to pack it as well. Make sure there's good snacks in there. Red Bulls, everything you need. Nice.

That's cool. All right. So the only one that affects infielders, Trev was a little iffy on. I just have never had it happen to me. And the only example I have of it is A-Rod. And I'm like, God, that was stupid. Someone else did it recently. I think it might have been a Yankee game.

I don't know who did it because then they showed the A-Rod thing. I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that happened with the A-Rot? So I forget who. It was in the last couple years. It happened in Major League the movie. Something like that happened. It's funny how things moved to. I know it used to be one that it was like,

if you walk, don't leave your bat at the plate. Like that's supposed to be a sign of disrespect to the pitcher and catcher. Nobody cares about that anymore because guys wear so much gear and stuff that it's like, hey, if that's where the bat boy comes out. And if you want a funny Google, there's an old ESPN article that opens up and is like, well, some rules still apply. Swinging on a 3-0 count with a monstrous lead is still the most egregious. Who wrote it?

It's old. Dave Campbell. I don't know. It's like this is how the ESPN website pops up for it. Yeah, it's old. Yeah, so it's like, but the world changes. The only one I think is stealing when you're up 10 or so. I think that's bad.

But I would never tell you that, you know, you shouldn't, you should always try to hit. And Trev even won me over on the bunting with a no-hitter. Do what you got to do. There's another. So if you're up 10 and you're going station to station, again favoring the pitcher. And you hit a ball that's a base hit with a runner on second,

and usually you'd get an RBI, and the coach holds them up because we don't want to hurt the pitcher's feelings. That's a tough one for hitters to swallow. Dude, I just did my job. Any other day, that's an RBI for me, and now I'm just getting those taken away because the pitcher has these feelings. It's all pitcher-based, and it makes me upset.

Screw the pitchers. Yeah, they openly cheat, and then they have all these rules to tell you when you can do your job and how you can do your job. So I'm over it. I will fight anybody online, not in person, online. Last voicemail of the day. Hey, this is Louise from Houston. I have a question for Trevor. I know we all know you love the Yankees, and you're actually, we're a part of a big moment in Yankee history.

When Mariana Rueira broke the saves record, you were the first out. You showed some good speed going down the line, but you were unsuccessful. What would that like being a part of that moment, and what other big historical moments have you been a part of? Thank you, Jake sucks. Well done. I think we talked about it a little bit. That was like a make-up game.

We came in on, it was supposed to be an off day, but we had gotten rained out earlier in the year. So we flew into New York just for one game. And it just so happened to be where Mariana was going to break the record. twins lose to the Yankees all the time. So that was what was happening. And yeah, it was cool to face him there. I mean, I really wanted to get a hit.

I don't know how many of bats I had against Mariano in my career. It wasn't a lot. But it was fun to be a part of that. And then another historic, just one? Yep. Wow. Another historical moment off the top of my head was Jim Tomey's 600th home run, I believe it was. I was on third base.

He had hit in one earlier in the game. 599. I'm sitting at third base and got to see him hit that run around the base. I mean, 600 home runs, man. I thought of unwritten rule I love. Okay. Okay. Nice Trevor.

Thank you. Nice, Trevor. Thank you. Sorry. I knew there was something I was missing. When the catcher or the umpire takes a ball off the face or the arm or the body, the other person says the catcher gets hit. The umpire cleans the plate.

If the umpire gets hit, the catcher goes to a mound visit or pauses the game. Mound visits are a little more tough now. But I love the umpire catcher respect back there. Like, let me give you a breather real quick. I like that. Only two guys facing the right way. Who gets who that favors? The pitcher, getting more pitches out of the zone called strikes because the catchers work in the empire.

It could also break the pitcher's momentum, Trevor. Yeah. I'm just saying, dude. If you really look at these unwritten rules, you kind of know who wrote the unwritten rules. So A, Trevor, you know, this is now going to be, I think, like a once every month and a half thing, once every two months thing for us.

It's so cool that you face Mariana Rivera. So that's pretty cool. You can take that to your grave. I don't think I'm going to get an app bad against him. And then I'm digging through this old ESPN Unwritten Rules article, just to see if there's any good tidbits. one that popped out that I've never seen because I think I'm like a brawl would break out. Do you know anyone that as the hitter would ever try to sneak a peek at what the catcher was calling?

Have you ever seen that at like the pro level? Yeah. Pallinger does it. Yeah, you know, like, I don't really remember who it was, but like you hear like, ooh, this guy like shuffles his feet, he hits the dirt on his spikes and he's given a look. But usually the catchers are like this. Right. Like, you know.

Bellinger gets a lot of shit. People post all the time. Bellinger is always sneaking peaks. Sneaking peaks. Yeah. Okay. That's cool. Any other big moments, Trave, your debut?

That was huge. Yeah. Big historical moments. I can't really think of any other ones like that. Like I was saying, 600 home runs when you break it down, bro. That's 10 years of 60 or 20 years of 30. It's like, when you start talking those numbers, it's like, holy crap. 15 years of 45.

Yeah, is that right? Yeah. Think about that, dude. Yeah. 10 years of 60? Think about that. I don't think Tomé did that. Yeah, I don't know.

What is that five? 10 years of 60 or more at bats? Six years of 90. No, I don't think that's right. No, that's 450. Six years of 100. Think about that. You had six years of 90 homers, you only had 450 homer.

Wait, no, 540. 540. That's hilarious. All the math. All the math. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool, though. And he actually got everybody involved a, like, he got a painting done and then did prints and signed them all.

Show. I think I was part of Joe Nathan's Twins' Save or something like that. He sent us a mug that's etched with that. Pretty cool. Me and Jim watched that together. That was big. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

We, that was a must watch. I mean, look, dude, I know you guys don't think it's a big deal. It's very cool, dude. We were texting each other, dude. I think it's 255 saves. It's pretty cool. Fucking shit ton of saves, dude. You know Walker got his 10-year service time.

That's also big. How many people have done that? It's got to be like a thousand? Oh, good question. How many players have 10-year service time? Thousand, probably. Out of 19,000 to play in the big leagues? I really want to know that.

How many guys have 10 years service time? I don't think the casual fan knows how big guys. of the deal that is to the players, Trev. I didn't. I didn't until spring training. Jake and I didn't until spring training when someone said that and you were like, oh, awesome. And we were like, oh, wow. So now I want I want the casual fan to celebrate that with the players. I think that would be

cool if you could get in on that. You know, when you think of baseball players, you think of the guys that last 10 years. You don't think of how that's not every guy. All right. You're looking it up. Maybe we'll have a follow-up on that. I think we got- I don't know if you're able to just find it like that, but I'm looking. We'll find the number, but I think we're good.

Last words, Jake? Crespy Carmelite High School. Shout out. Shout out. Why? You went there. Okay. Sean Gilmartin. Do you ever make out with girls in the hallway, Treve? No, California school.

California school. question still stands. Question still stands. There's no girls in the hallway. Did you make out in the hallway? No. I'll tell you what. California school.

Is there hallways? We had girls over at our school. The minute school was over. So it was good, man. Did the worry about that drama? Current major leaguers from Carmelite High School. Go. Three of them.

Sean Gilmartin. Scott Heineman. Is Healy in the show? Yep. Boom. And that's the episode. Thank you guys very much for tuning in and hanging out with us for a little bit. Frozen flew to end it. Is you frozen or is?

There is. I'm back.