Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 218 | Marlins & Padres Advance to the NLDS!

Episode Date: October 3, 2020

Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe recap the final games of the wild card series! The Marlins beat the Cubs to advance to the NLDS against the Braves (6:15) and the Padres beat the Cardinals in a winner-take-all... Game 3 to move on tot he NLDS against the Dodgers! (20:00) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. The Wildcarts series are over. Caput. Done. We're moving on. The playoffs are normal from here on out. How about that? Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Thank you very much for joining us today as we recap the two games that were yesterday. We're coming to you live from the Roosevelt Studios here in the Bronx. That's R-S-V-L-T-S. Oh, shit. Trev's got, for anyone watching live on YouTube, Treves got a Roosevelt shirt on. I have a Roosevelt's sweatshirt on and you have a Roosevelt's collared shirt on.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Tasty. We didn't even plan that. Love you, Roosevelt. Trevor, that's the exact one that Mookie was wearing, right? Off his back. Yeah. Okay. Rumors.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Anyway, my name's Jimmy. Jake's sitting over here. Treves in California. BBD behind the dish. And we got two games to recap. Put a bow on the wild card series. What did you guys think of the Wild Card Series as a whole? Can we do?
Starting point is 00:01:15 We're going to put 10 minutes on the clock for each game. But, like, I saw a lot of tweets come my way. And I love having Twitter because I get so many different opinions come my way. And some open my brain. And a lot were like, this was really bad baseball. Like, we saw some bad baseball in a lot of these games. Three fun games, but there were some teams where it was like, oh, you don't belong here. And I think I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I get really torn because I think it was good for casual fans and bringing in new fans, but it's also an introduction to some, like, boring and some bad skill play. But then some really great stories as well. So I don't know. I'm torn. You guys got any thoughts on this? I'm okay with it for this year. For me, unfortunately, it ties into bigger conversations about going forward and getting
Starting point is 00:02:05 this many teams in the playoffs. And it is too many teams. So that's kind of the overbearing thing. I mean, I do like a three-game set, you know, and I hope they, you know, take from, I always blank, is it the Korean League? Is it the CPBL? I forget, but they do the wild card that's two games,
Starting point is 00:02:27 but the lower seed has to win both games, right? Yes, yes. So, you know, I'd like to see something like that get implemented because coming down to a one-game playoff, I think is more messed up, than what we're doing. I understand the pressure and the excitement of that one game. So the Padres would have been out.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Right. Padres would have been out. Is that the only team that lost the first game but won the next two? Oakland. Oakland would have been out. Oakland would have been out. Because if you don't win, you have to win in the first round you have to win both games or if you're the higher seed home team, you just win one.
Starting point is 00:02:59 So I think if you don't let that many teams in and then you can kind of take the two game slash three game idea from this, I think I would like it a lot. And like I said the other day, I really enjoyed the brackets part of it. Everyone talking about their brackets and it's busted. And it's like, that's not really a baseball thing. And the word bubble has been around a lot. So you're getting all your March Madness fix in now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I mean, this is, yeah, I mean. It was funny to hear Aguilar and some Marlins fans say like, we're going to the bubble. Yeah. Like it's a new term now. We made it to the bus. So I don't know. And at the other time I get it that, you know, the Cubs who, you know, win the NL Central. and, you know, Rossi and they still got the same gang,
Starting point is 00:03:41 they're looking back now at two games and being like, what the hell happened? We go cold for two days and our season's done. So I don't know. Trevor, what do you got? I like the three-gamer. I don't think it needs to change to the two, win to or go home, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I think they just need to get the number of teams down. Well, you have the... Sorry to catch you off. Wow. But the one seed needs an advantage, don't you do with that? I just don't The one seed doesn't have to be in the wild card It should be three winners
Starting point is 00:04:14 Two wild cards Those two wild card teams play each other in a three game series The winning team gets the home field advantage I like that And then you just go into the division series I just think there's too many teams Like you said like there's You need to earn the right to be in the post season
Starting point is 00:04:27 Sub 500 teams should never be in the postseason So I think I like the three game format But you know There's just too many It's too many teams And also I think the other thing that comes into play when we've talked about this is, you know, baseball and rest aren't really necessarily a great formula. So I don't know. I mean, there's got to be a way that you can line it up, that you play a two, three game wild card,
Starting point is 00:04:51 and then you could still have other teams, you know, if they pitch their one and two guys on the last two days of the season, that maybe they're lined up for perfect rest for a five-game series or something. So there's got to be a right way to do it. This is too many, and you do have some bad teams in. And, I mean, you know, I think we're going to have some more ALNL Central talk this episode. But, yeah. I don't know how to do it if you can drop it to seven really easily. I don't know how you do it if you want it at six.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Maybe you give the top wild card also an advantage. And there's four teams waiting. Are you giving a buy to anyone? I was given the division winners. I think you give the top two a buy. Okay It should be the winners of the division And then the best two records after that
Starting point is 00:05:43 And those two teams But that's what they have now, Trevin They want to expand So we're not going to get that It's dumb I mean 10 teams is all you need In the playoffs 10 teams We have 16 this year at the joke
Starting point is 00:05:54 They want 15 I don't know how they do that though That's they can do 14 7 and 7 I don't know man It's just it's just way too many I mean it makes the regular season worth worthless I agree with 160
Starting point is 00:06:05 regular season, it would all be worthless. Reward the top two. Yeah. We'll save some of that for the offseason. All right. Yeah, we got 10 minutes on the clock. Let's get into game number one here. The Miami Marlin shut out. The Cubs. There's 2-0 final score. Sixtho Sanchez pitches really well. Coupa
Starting point is 00:06:23 Loop gets the big homer. And I mean, U. Darvis pitched well as well. The Cubs just didn't do anything. I believe they had the bases loaded at one point. I have some thoughts on the managing from I'm probably manager of the year, Donnie Baseball, but I will throw it to you, Jake, first.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Or Trev, if you, I don't know who has any firm thoughts here. You know, I was close to playing on these Marlins, so I'll go first. Yeah, and it looks like the fourth inning was the inning that they had the bases loaded. Hey, good for Sixth, though. You know, we kind of did some turkey math on this show. We were like, okay, the teams that haven't seen him yet have struggled. And, you know, this guy's supposed to be a prime time player with some nasty stuff. So he goes out and he shoves, and Darvish also shoving.
Starting point is 00:07:09 He, you know, Coop gets him two outs in the seventh inning. And again, it's the, A, Darvish is rolling. You're not going to pull him there. This Cubs Achilles heel, besides their lineup that turned into a giant Achilles heel, was the bullpen. You know, it was a fear factor last year. They've still been figuring it out this year. They found some solutions between Wick and Jeffress.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I think Wick was out and hurt this series. Jeffers got knocked around in the first game, and Kimbril's kind of been a mess throughout. So with that looming over your team and, well, zero hitting, you know, you leave yourself susceptible to it's zero-zero in the seventh inning in Wrigley. And Garrett Cooper does clip one. Garrett Cooper, who is a nice little hitter. I know he was a Yankees farm man.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Well, no, he was a Brewers farm. He came over to the Yanks for a little bit. I think the Rockies, right? He was in, or no. He was in Colorado Springs, which should be the Rockies' AAA team, but it is the Brewers' Triple A team. He came over, and all he's done is a major leaguer is hit a little bit.
Starting point is 00:08:20 He's got like an 800 OPS. He clips one. And then from there, you know, the Cubs go into this, like, hope we get someone on and hit a homer, and it never happened the whole series. Magnuris. Magnarius.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I got something on that one. I don't know. I was watching the game. Yeah. Second and third. Erno was first. What was it? First and second.
Starting point is 00:08:44 No outs? And two outs. Who's the hitting team here? The Marlins were. That was when the guy hit the second run in. Magnus. I'm watching the game. I tweeted this out yesterday.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Two outs. Not holding the round. runner on at first, obviously, because it's first and second. Anthony Rizzo was on the grass, like in, like three or four steps on the grass, and I have no idea why. Like, okay, if he bunts, so be it. And it's bases loaded two outs. And he's a lefty.
Starting point is 00:09:21 The third baseman can come play up if he wants. And Darvish can take the first baseline in a bunt situation. But again, you're not really worried about the bunt with two outs. But he was up. Sure enough, first pitch slider. he turns on and hits it in the three hole right past a diving Anthony Rizzo who should have been behind the runner
Starting point is 00:09:39 and would have fueled that easily and that's you know one run game is a lot different than a two run game. So it was very strange to me I have no idea why he was up there and I tweeted that out nobody really cared I was hoping some Cubist fans were going to like enlighten me with why he was doing that but nobody did and Treve you're racking my brain. You listed your tweet
Starting point is 00:10:00 beautifully because you know the the first statement out of someone would be, you know, Sierra's this incredible speedster. He's watching out for the bunt. But your counterpoint is perfect. Let him bun. If he wants to bunt, knock yourself out. Wallach's on deck, the nine-hole hitting catcher. If that's really what they want to do, knock themselves out.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And I don't think Sierra was going to do that anyway. So that was a great self-retort by you. I just don't know why he was up. I'm looking at it now. I don't, I mean, it's to protect the bunt because he thinks they're trying to move both runners into scoring position. Two outs, though. But there's two outs. Yeah. That seems like just whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I mean, Cubs lost. He's known, he has known, he like loves taking bunts away. So like, you know, they've developed bunt plays where he just crashes and he goes in, he's right in your face when you bun. That's like what he likes to do. He likes to play up like that. But in that situation,
Starting point is 00:10:55 I mean, you're, you're essentially just giving up that three hole for no reason. Ball goes right past him. It goes right past him. If he's five, six steps back right behind the runner, which he should be, it's a typical place to play when you're a first baseman in that situation. Cubs don't get a run, though, so it's hard to look at anything but the offense. But that is an interesting and good point for baseball strategy.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But Ian Hap gets two hits. Love that. Hayward gets two hits. Those have been the dudes for them. That's been it, man. That's been it. It's bizarre, man. Baez, O for four.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Bryant, O for four. Rizzo, O for four. Schwerber, O for three. I mean, we, you know, these are dudes that have been there a lot. And you, you know, Bias had that quote before about, you know, not being able to watch the game tape and why are we being punished for the Astros action. And, you know, you wonder how much of this team relied on that with stuff like that getting in their heads? Or was this just kind of a weird lost season for them?
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, you know, those, we just listed some of the best ball players at their positions in baseball. And these guys were kind of offers all year. Yeah, and there's a lot. The Cubs have one of the more fascinating, like off seasons that we're about to see because there's a lot of guys here that can't keep them. Do they want to keep them? Do they trade them? Is their window closed? Is it time to not rebuild but reset? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:14 That's a conversation for another time. I want to give the Marlins some credit here. And specifically Donnie baseball. Six-O Sanchez is a rookie starting a game. Now, they do have the Marlins and Donnie do have a bit of cushion. because it's not a do-or-die game for them. But 6-0 in the third inning walked the first two batters. It's a tie game, and Donnie Baseball didn't like panic.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Just let him work out of it. And he does. He goes line-out single, another single, so he puts another gun on, and then gets the fly ball from Baez. In the next inning, he gets the quick out, and then he gives up two singles. Now you got one out, two on, tie-out. game and Maddingly doesn't panic again and trust his guy to finish it and 6-0 finish it.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So I think that's cool for a rookie. And I think that's an established manager handling a rookie pitcher and instilling trust in his guy. The opposite of what we kind of saw with Renteria and the White Sox. So I like that. And then it's clear they had a plan after that. They had four relievers they were going to go to. You know, and the Cubs and their bullpen kind of were fine too. It's just the Cubs bats.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And that's not what you'd expect at the beginning of a series talking about those guys. But I saw the stats they were talking about Brian since 2016. The Post-Seen has really struggled and obviously didn't have a good year this year. And it rolled right over into the playoffs. And that's, I mean, you got to have that guy going. I don't know what Rizzo. Let me check Rizzo's stats this year. Well, you do that, Trev.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Your guy Matt Joyce. Matt Joyce, one for two with a walk and an outfield assist. Contreras at the dish. Yeah. Great play. Yeah. He's a ball player, man. He's been doing it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And just like, that is, I mean, how many times do you practice that throws and outfielder? A lot. And he got it in the game and just perfect on the money, one hop. Probably gave the shooter McGavin afterwards, you know? Like that. Good to see him. Only closing note for me, Jim, you mentioned six, though. How about the Marlins bullpen?
Starting point is 00:14:24 They go four shuddy at Riggly. And it's not a lot of dudes. know. I mean, it's Boxburger, who's famous from wearing the emoji players weekend shirt. Dick Blyer, former Orial stud, Yimi Garcia, who hits Contreras and they're having some fun. And then Kinsler, who's 10 years in the league and some highs and lows of baseball for him and kind of embodies a little bit of these Marlins not getting love and doing it. you know, Kimbril and Jeffress,
Starting point is 00:14:58 a couple guys who have made All-Star games and are, you know, have had huge years as relievers, you know, Boxburger, Plyer, Garcia, Kinsler. Yeah. Use quote afterwards was really good as well. He said, I really just wanted to get a win so Lester could pitch again in Wrigley one last time.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And that's like, damn, man, okay, pull on the heartstrings a little bit for us here. But yeah, other than that, Miami, the Miami Marlins are sitting in the dugout, sitting on the field, smoking cigars, talking their shit because they deserve it.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I like that. Miami Marlins' Twitter accounts posting all the videos, catch flights, not feelings. It's fun, man. Baseball is actually learning how to have fun. The bottom feeders.
Starting point is 00:15:42 A lot of shit talking. Like Acuna and Bauer shit talk and we talked about that a little bit on one of our programs. But then they all, they tweeted at each other like joking. Like it was like, ah, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's just good fun. So I like the end of that. But, I don't know if anyone's heard this clip. I tweeted it out, but I know not everyone that listens to this podcast on Twitter. But this is after game one of the season. What's his name? Ricky Battalico, pride of CCSU, baby.
Starting point is 00:16:07 He does the post game for the Phillies. He dropped this. And from game one, Miami heard this somehow, got on the radar. They remembered it. And now they're embracing it. You have to beat the bottom feeders. And if you don't think the monons are bottom feeders, We'll see what happens, you know, in a couple weeks and see who's beating up on them and who's not.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I mean, you know, if they're that good of a club, because I don't see it. I don't know what you saw tonight, but I wouldn't say they're a juggernaut by any stretch of imagination. Cuts to Aguilar wearing a shirt that says the Miami bottom feeders, smoking a cigar, celebrating the win, and he says this. Don't get mad at us, okay? I just saying. You guys started it, not us. We got to fly tomorrow. We got a flight tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I don't know you guys. It's really good. A, I think me and Hayes of Sagarlar could have a good time together if he just gave me a chance. B, and I mean, this is where every team, you know, every season is going to have their things. When you get on first base, you look at the dugout, you do something. This is the definition of don't force it. You know, game one, Battalico calls them bottom feeders. There's also some fish stuff there.
Starting point is 00:17:20 The halibut, flounder, the soul. And yeah, they hang this shirt in their dugout, which is like, they go up to hit. And they see that shirt that their bottom feeders. Like, they've rallied behind it, behind it. They're having fun. And, you know, we'll be talking about some of the divisional stuff coming up for all the DS games. You need something. You need something.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Now, some teams force it. The Yankees kind of force it. And then they change halfway through their season where they come up with a gesture when they get a hit. You know, it was the thumbs down came around organic. The Brett Bang came organically. This year it's an elbow thing. I think it's for Tommy Canely and Tommy John, but we have no idea. The, let's see, the Rangers have had the antlers and the horns and the claw.
Starting point is 00:18:08 The gnats had baby shark. Did the twins that you played on ever have something like this? Or is there ever conversations to get something like this? I mean, we had stuff, but we are such like an old school, like be respectful type. organization, you know, especially in the years that I was there. So it was like, you know, we do it, but do it real subtly. We had, you know, silly stuff. It has to come organically.
Starting point is 00:18:32 If you try to force it, it's ridiculous. It just looks stupid. Yeah. We had something like brings a tear to my eye and we'll just like just go out here when you got on base. Just a real small little tear and stuff like that. But like I said, we were so old school, so much about respect there that it was like, do your job. It was like we wanted to be Bill Belichick
Starting point is 00:18:56 like shut up and do your job but we just did never do our job. That's what the Yankees were like that forever and then that thumbs down dude and Todd Frazier kind of flipped the script and it was like, oh. You know, I created that. I told you that.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah. What do you mean you created that? You were that guy in the suspenders. No, I, we played a home game. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Played a home game and Met Stadium. Yeah, you were a, that game. I made an air
Starting point is 00:19:24 with two outs that let Todd Frasher come up to bat and he hit that fucking Homer and then Homeboy in the stands was like you know, gave it up down. A circle. Then it was a thing. So you guys are if that was fun for you, you're welcome. Yeah. It wasn't very fun for me.
Starting point is 00:19:43 All right. That's it. I think that's all we got on this game anyway. Good job Fish. I'm excited for the next matchup. We got another game. Oh yeah. And the other game is a big one. A game 3. The second game three of the Wild Card Series out of eight series, only two, went three games. I think that shows the disparaging skills. Anyway, Padres and Cardinals, and this one is another fun game. The Padres have to bullpen the game because they lost one starter. They lost two starters, and they bullpen a game for like the third time in a row.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I really liked how they went about it. I thought Tingler did well with that. Jack Flaherty dealt. He was really good. I mean, this game, it ends up for nothing. Cardinals just couldn't score. There were some dumb mistakes defensively for the Cardinals, but they don't really come into play.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Same with the Cubs, because when you put zero runs out there, that's not good. But I really liked Tingler. It seemed like they definitely worked backwards. They definitely said, okay, Rosenthal's going to be a nine guy. Pomerant's the eight. Pagan the seven.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And then we got to figure out how to fill the rest. And, you know, they, stammer sees six batters. He's out. I'm guessing that was the plan. And then Tim Hill comes in to close out that inning. And then they let him go, they let him go the next inning for a couple of guys.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Then Pierce Johnson comes in. At one point, there was bases loaded, right? And someone got out of it. Yeah. There was two on. they bring Austin Adams in for one batter to get Goldie. So they might have had him as their Goldie weapon. Okay, if Goldie comes up and there's runners on,
Starting point is 00:21:26 let's bring Adams in, and he's just the Goldie guy. Seemed like they had a plan and it worked out well for them. You know, no injuries, so nothing got really messed up there. And then it's the Tatis double. And then it's the Hosmer double. And then it's the Tatis intentional walk. And the other two runs were just that. Bad play by admin.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Cronworth, good. I don't know. Padres are a lot of fun. Trev, hit it off. No, there are a lot of fun. I mean, that was, we talked about what Jack had to do to put his team in position to win. He did exactly that. I mean, his final line was six innings pitched, one earned run, eight K's. He did his thing, gave up the doubles to Hosmer there and Tattis.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But like you said, man, it was just the offense. and that happens. You go cold. Your offense can go cold, especially, you know, a bullpen day, like, it would seem like that's going to be to your advantage, like a bunch of guys who aren't good enough to be starters. But the way they can match up now
Starting point is 00:22:29 and the information they have on each player and how they can, that makes it tough. When you're facing a new guy every inning, it's very difficult to get into some sort of a rhythm. So this is something we always see during the playoffs, but the podgers are kind of taken to the, the extreme level because they have to. They don't have enough starters to get them through.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's going to be really interesting to me. Can those guys come back? Are they saying they're going to come back? Do they have a chance to in the DS? I think Lament has a decent shot. I think he was a coin flip for this series. There were some update that Cleve is still throwing. Like he's not shut down.
Starting point is 00:23:07 He's still trying. He had a good throwing sush. They got everyone excited and then he had a bad one. So he's like he's maybe for a CS. I think Lamet should be there for the DS. Like I said, you could do the bullpenning thing, and if it works right, it's tough on a hitting team. But when the guys have to go back to back,
Starting point is 00:23:28 back to back, then their stuff's not as sharp, and then that's when you're going to see the team start to tee off. I mean, did any cardinal batter see a pitcher twice? That's exactly what I was about to say, no. They didn't. And that's when a bullpen day looks and feels awful. We've, you know, the raise who kind of started this, we saw that a lot with the Yankees, by the way, they're going to play. And the first time you see it, it's so painful.
Starting point is 00:23:54 You're just walking into a new different at bat every time when a bullpen day goes awry is when, you know, two of the nine guys who pitch don't have it that day. And that's where Jay Stangler is getting a lot of credit. And he does deserve it. He put his guys in successful situations. They weren't going to leave in that guy for the extra. to try to sneak the out against Goldie. Because guess what? That backfires you.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You bring in Tim Hill for Matt Carpenter with runners on base because, you know, that's where you can get burnt. So he put his guys in a good position and that's all you can do. Credit to all the pitchers. Nobody got got. Nobody. And, you know, this Cardinals team, yes, it's Goldie and then a lot of pieces. Yachty sent two to the track.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Fowler, I think, did too. the ball wasn't traveling too well in San Diego. I was watching that. Yeah. That was tough. I think if this game was played out a lot of different stadiums, you would have like three homers on each team probably, but it wasn't. And yeah, man, good for the Padres.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And they brought out some young dudes. Patino is 20, 21. Moro hon is 21. So kudos to Tingler, but kudos to all of those pitchers because everyone had it. Everyone had it. I think the only guy that was in the maybe category was Pierce Johnson, and he gets the out he needs, and they rightfully pull him.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So good for the Padres. And, yeah, Jack, he shoved that third time through the order. Well, that again, everything we just talked about that makes a bullpen day good. This is their third time seeing him. He gets down 2-0 to Tatis. Tatis jumps a sinker, and then Hosmer jumps a first-pitch sinker as well. So Jack was great. And then, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's the Tatis, man. Yeah. And he pulled his hands in. That's a hell of a job right there. That's a good pitch by Jack and Tatis just like, he gets the barrel of everything, dude. I think the Tatis guy's going to stick. Austin Adams gets the win.
Starting point is 00:25:57 He faced one batter. Huge. Huge. Reyes comes in out of the Cardinals pin, and it's a little bit of like, not only did we get Flaherty, kind of. I mean, you're technically winning, but now we've got someone else on the mound.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah, that inning, I mean, talk about TFA and baseball when things fall apart. It gets, things can get ugly quick. I mean, Croninworth, he gets second pitch single, and then it's like, okay, now the dogs are out. Flaherty's gone, let's do this, let's end this game. Fielder's choice. They walk to Tatease, Wong throws it away. And then there's the play, the chopper to Tommy Edmund, and he rightfully misses third base, which I do think he tried to do to leave the force at home.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Molina can't see that from his angle, and Molina's off the bag trying to make the tag. I don't think he missed on purpose. He really? Yeah, because his reaction was very much like, fuck. And Molina knew he had to tag him. And he reached his foot backwards after he jumped. I don't know. I thought that was the play to leave the force out at home.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I thought it was kind of heavy by him. Yeah, Molina caught it. he was trying to tag. I know, but that's what I think Molina. I don't think Molina could see that from his angle. Well, he didn't even have his foot on the base. Exactly. Because you'd assume that he would step on third base,
Starting point is 00:27:25 but I think the right play there is to not step on the base and leave the four-out. You get two outs. I think, well, that you end up with zero. I don't think you can really get too out in that situation. What do you mean? He could have taken two breaths, stepped on third base and fired to Yadi's chest, got two out. He rushed the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It was a chopper. It was a chopper. He came down with it, thought he was trying to touch third, and then create a lane for a yachtie to be able to tag. The problem is he palmed the ball and threw it into the ground. It was a terrible throw. Terrible throw. It was just a bad play.
Starting point is 00:28:01 If he steps on third, I don't think they're getting two outs there, and I think the run scores. It was easy. It was a chopper. It was a chopper. It was a chopper. Runners are going on contact. I don't think so, man.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I love you. Fair. I mean, is this a Tommy Edmund, like, apology tour? No, I'm a... He just made it. It sped up on him. Happens, man.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yaddi almost made the play. Sort of. Almost. He made the play afterwards of the double play. And they gave him so much love. If Yadi keeps his foot on the base and catches the ball, I mean, there's an out-at-home. He didn't know he missed the baseball.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You can't try to hit the base. He can't see from that angle. That's what I'm saying. That's the game. I mean, I don't know if you want to. It's not close. What's not close? At home.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Like if he just, like if he just steps backwards, touches it right there. Right. Collects himself and fires to yon. But then you take away the force. That's what I'm saying. You lose the double play, but you don't let a run score. I think if you step on, when you step on third there, on that, chopper, I think you're basically
Starting point is 00:29:17 guaranteeing the run scores. I think it's an easy double play. Yeah, like if you lose the force, you just have to tag him. It's not like it's like he's going to score. But that's a really hard throw with a base's loaded chopper, runner gunning down the line on contact.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You step on third there. You take the force. I think you're basically guaranteeing the run scores. When I saw the replay, it looked like to me, he tries to touch their base. He realizes mid-throw that he didn't touch first base. And I think he panics and he chokes the ball and throws it into the dirt. That's basically what I saw.
Starting point is 00:29:51 That's how I read it as well. He knew he fucked up and he's like, oh, shit, I didn't touch the base. And then panicked. It's a tough play. I mean, you don't have a lot of time to create a lane at that because it is a chopper. You touch the base. You don't have. I mean, maybe you have enough time to clear a lane and throw.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But at game speed like that, you probably just going to try to. sidearm it tail it back into the catcher but he just choked it. Not he didn't show, I'm saying he choked the ball. Tough play. Didn't it matter because they didn't score any runs. That's where he runs. Bang.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Bang. Carlson didn't hit a homer for you. Hmm. Tough. Wow. Anyone hit a homer for you? I don't even know who I had. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Wow. Flex. Nobody had Croninworth and Cooper, so no. Oh, well, Trev, you win the regular. season. I did? Yeah, you won the regular season.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Remember, you won the regular season homer draft, yes. Oh, now we're doing a playoff one? I would like to keep it going. I think it's a fun segment on the pregame show. It's just totally different thing. You were tipsy off a couple Sierra missed last night, and you called us last place fucks. I thought we were still going.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I thought you were just in last place. I know you actually got last place down. So yes, you guys are last place. It's true. Yeah. Last place does fuck. Sometimes. Tied for last place too.
Starting point is 00:31:26 It's even worse. Tied for second. Tide for last. Anything else in this game? I mean, I love the celebration for baseball fandoms cheering about baseball. COVID optics, obviously it's really weird. For the Braves, I was saying the same thing. Like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:31:46 There was a close-up where they ran down the line and there was a lot of mask being worn, which is good. I like that shot. gave me a little more like, okay, good. But all right. So I know that this is impossible for some people. It's not impossible for me. If you take the COVID optics out of it and just like, wow, baseball is growing. And the Padres are so good for baseball.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And Tautese is so good for baseball. And it's suck to see all the gatekeeping about like, it's not the World Series. Because these kids have never seen their team win a playoff series in their life. And if they were alive in 98, then it's been 22 years. years. I don't, as a Yankees fan, as a Dodgers fan, you don't celebrate these small feats because they happen somewhat often. I think that scene is just really good for baseball. Like really good. Like, I mean, Tatis. The Tatis effect, dude, he's got international appeal. MLB better not fuck this one up because he, I think, wants to be marketed, is marketable. Put him everywhere.
Starting point is 00:32:47 He's a stud. The whole team, I mean, like that team. right now is good for baseball. It's a lot of big dick energy, like running around, hitting homers, pimping everything. It's just fun. It's a highlight reel of a team.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Defensively as well, you got, I mean, Machado and Tatis on the same side of the ball is ridiculous. That's one of the best left sides of the infield we're going to see. There's a, there's a scene in,
Starting point is 00:33:17 when the 1980 U.S. Olympic team, beat the Russians. Now this is a drastic comparison, but there's a little comparison. There's a shot where the U.S. team is celebrating so much. And it's not the gold medal, remind you, just beating Russia to get to the gold medal. And the Russian team is just their chin on their sticks watching the celebration. And they interview some of the Russian players and they say, we hadn't celebrated like that in two decades. We forgot how fun winning is supposed to be. And I think baseball has a little bit of that going on. There's been
Starting point is 00:33:51 so many old heads gatekeeping this sport for so long that, you know, we're getting bat flips back into play. It's winning the battle. Fun in baseball is winning. But that's how I kind of think a lot of people felt or like as a Yankee fan, I felt watching a fan base go crazy over that series win because I do have a little bit of me like, oh, dude, it's just the wild card. But then I'm like, well, why do I think that?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Right. Have fun. Hell yeah, have fun. That's why people pop champagne after every series. Like, why not? Yeah, that's like even Jeter who says, even Jeter, who is quote, was if you lose in the World Series or you don't make the playoffs, you've fucking lost. What's the difference?
Starting point is 00:34:26 But then he would always celebrate after each series and he would say, and he would just say like, yeah, well, you know, you have to enjoy this. Yeah, I do think, and I mean, this is full on Devils AvCat because I do like it. But, you know, I leave it to Padres fans. I'm sure there's some Padre fans that are out there saying, like, hey, let's wait to celebrate like this until we win a World Series. But have fun. I do think, you know, the COVID part sucks.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And I do think there's probably a little extra amount of people looking for a reason to get out during COVID. And I think that might add to it. But they're having fun. I mean, Tatea is a rock star. But, yeah, I think if, you know, if the Dodgers beat them in four or three coming up, I think you'll see a lot of that circle back around on the internet and be like, you guys won a wildcar game. Congrats. So it's the do and the don't, but it's fun, have fun with it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And hey, I think, Jim, we have to eat a little bit of bugs. You know, when Machado originally signs that contract, I think, you know, some of the takes were like, hey, enjoy irrelevancy. And he's on the sexiest team in baseball. Yeah, it's true. It's on the most relevant team. I do think, like, culture-wise, they are the most relevant team in baseball right now. In baseball, in, like, the tight,
Starting point is 00:35:50 community. Or, like, new fans, like, casual fans. The odds are pretty relevant. I still think casuals might not have the Padres. Yeah, I don't know. They've been getting a lot of love. Anyone that watches, like, breakdowns that doesn't watch baseball, which is, like, half the YouTube audience,
Starting point is 00:36:11 they know about the Padres. They know about the Pods. Anything else? Do you remember when the White Sox recording Mani Machado and signed Yonder and John Jay to try to get him to go there. And then they said that wasn't why they did it. Same as same. John Jay, our guy, Trev.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I love. We've had a lot of nights. In Miami, huh? You and John Jay. Me and Aguilar. That's what I was trying to say yesterday about Machado. He gets a lot of hate, but I can't hate on the guy because all these guys I like, love him. I don't really know Mani that well, so I can't pass judgment on him either, but he gets,
Starting point is 00:36:52 It's so much hate. It's so funny, man. If you look at the... I'm supposed to say, love him. One of the Cardinals, they hit a double down the line. It might have been Fowler. And you just see, it's Machado. Machado's body language, like, there's...
Starting point is 00:37:06 He doesn't have that hard-oh hustle side where he's like, let me get into perfect position for the relay. Like, he sees the double and he's like, fuck. And it's just, it's kind of how baseball's evolving. And I don't know. I think he's, you know, Dodger Machado tried to go into this role and the back. guy and all of that, and I think you realize maybe that's not his perfect space. Just be you.
Starting point is 00:37:27 You know, Kanoe figured it out. You don't have to be the hardo. Have fun out there. Hey, Carlos Carrera. What are you name? Carrera. Carrera. Carrera.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I know your name. Just take a look at Manny. He just kind of chilled out a little bit. Yeah. Everyone loves him. He definitely tried to lean into it a lot when he was with that Dodgers and a postseason run. And it was like, you don't need to, man.
Starting point is 00:37:49 All right. I mean, I think that's everything we got going on. We're going to do a little preview of the ALDS and NLDS series. If you're on Patreon with us live, we're going to do it in 10 minutes. If you're listening on the podcast apps, it'll come out on Sunday as this one came out on Saturday. That's the plan. Get it out now, baby. And we will see you later.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Thanks for tuning in. Goodbye.

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