Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 229 | Astros Force Game 6 & Braves Go Up 3-1

Episode Date: October 16, 2020

Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe recap the Astros walk-off win to force Game 6 and Atlanta's big Game 4 win over LA. 7:00 Rays-Astros Game 5 23:00 Kei Igawa 25:00 Dodgers-Braves Game 4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Jake, how are you doing? I'm good. James, Trevor. You mentioned my turtleneck. I always get pretty happy when I wear this. My auntie re got it for. me, I think, when I was 17, 18, and I looked at it, and I was like, why would I ever wear a monogram turtleneck? And that's just me not having the foresight. But I kept it with me through all

these years, and now it's one of my most formidable shirts. So I'm happy to be rocking it today as the seasons change. And baseball, Trevor Plouffe is nothing short of hot in the streets. are you kidding me your guy Karea Kershaw's nightmares boogety boogety I was going to ask are you wearing that ironically or unironically but you you answered my question yes is the answer a little bit of both I look stunning in it and it's a monogram turtleneck these are my initials it's like if Justin Verlander pitched and I took his jersey off and sat down and put headphones on that's what you look like Jimmy just laughed when I showed him the I mean I've seen it before I know it I didn't know that was monogram and that takes people

Turn it up a couple of notches. It shocks people. I mean, who got you that? Your Antirie. Antirie. Thank you, Antirie. Just a hilarious gift. Fantastic.

That's like something you see in a movie or like a comedy movie. Jake gets like the, it's so weird. My life is. I don't want to come at your female relatives. No. Because my female relatives and my fiancee dress me. Or I steal stuff from my brother Luke who has a sense of style. the ladies that dress Jake

Like they think of him as a little clown doll I've been a joke my whole life Like in college He had this ugly, poofy brown jacket Oh yeah Super ugly I'm my mom I bet you were a super really cute kid

One Christmas your mom got you like A turtleneck and a vest Yeah That like only a 90 year old grumpy old men I'm my mom's bill de bear Exactly If we went back in your family albums, you had like suspenders on, like maybe a bowtie. Like for Christmas, you really got dressed up.

Yes. Holy shit. But he's like, you know, you're old. They still buy you these things. And it's like, this is a monograms. Turtleneck. It's all coming to fruition. My own initials.

Does your mom still kiss you on the cheek? But you're still my little baby. Oh, yeah. Dude, I'm going to still do that. Like, I know Tom Brady gets a lot of shit for like kissing his kid on mouth. I don't. I don't. kiss my kids on the mouth already.

But I'm going to want to be, I'm going to want to hug. Yeah, hugs are awesome. That's, hug or a kiss like on the cheek. Those are different than kissing your son on the lips. I kind of get it if you're a mouth kissing family, I guess. I'm not in it. I didn't grow up there and it feels weird.

Brady is from California. Soft. If like, like my daughter, Isla, like get over here, give daddy a hug and a kiss on the cheek. Teddy,

same thing. I don't care. Oh, you think you're too cool now? Yeah, no, I'm going to hug my kids to death. You want to fight me? Let's go. Teddy. Teddy, give Uncle Jake hugging a kiss on the cheek.

I had a professor. I had a professor at Sonoma State, which is NorCal, who was high school classmates with Tom Brady, also from NorCal. And he was, like, such a nerd. And he was like, yeah, Tom Brady was in my graduating class. Like, he was kind of a jerk to me. And I just laughed, like, out loud in class. He was like, what's funny?

And I was like, well, of course. he was a jerk to you, dude. Like, the nerdiest guy I know, and he was Tom Brady. My family is not, like, we're barely huggers. And the family is the same way. It's, like, not very affectionate. I'm not saying, like, I didn't have, like, my parents were very nice to me, but we just weren't huggers.

Yeah. Like, I don't know if I've ever heard my dad say, I love you. Well, here we go. Your dad loves you, Trough. I know he does. Don't even worry about it. I mean, since, I mean, I'm sure. When I was a kid, he did.

But, like, I mean, when's the last time my dad said he loves me, like, as an adult? I don't fucking know. I say I love you at the end of almost majority of my phone calls. I'm going to want to be that way with Teddy. Like, I'm like, oh, you don't love me? It's just because I think death is imminent at all time, so I never want to not end a conversation with someone I love without saying I love you. That's a good mindset to have.

While we're on that topic, I had to Venmo Phil Hughes money at 3.30 a.m. this morning. Why? I was up. I couldn't sleep. And he was doing a live card break and I got involved. He's on there 24-7. 24-7, dude. It's crazy.

So go check out Phil's Pulse. All right. And that leads us into the burn of game number one. Jakey. We're going chronological as always. We're a cronpod. The first game was the raise. and the Astros on your mark, get set, and burn.

ALCS, Game 5, potential elimination game for Houston. They'll throw the kitchen sink at Tampa, starting with Luis Garcia versus Tilled my land. Early settler John Curtis opening up for the raise. That's right, Game 5, ALCS, Bullpen Day, buckle it. C-O-N-N. Yukon, Yukon, Yukon. Another springer-dinger to lead off the game. Jumped it.

First pitch, one-nothing. Houston. But Tampa decides it's time to get loud. Be Lau finally joins the series. Lefty-on-lefty crime locked up at one's. Bottom three, professional hitter. Michael Brantley with the two RBI single, Kind of bizarre throw by Austin Meadows for the second run to score.

It's three-one stroves after three. Randy Johnson a Rosarena flops his big unit once again in this series. Another home run. My goodness, three to two into the eighth. J-J unit! This is how he do. G-man, 447-foot bomb to tie it up in the eighth. Bottom nine, are we going to extras?

Carlos Correo. Team CJC goes all Frank Sinatra as he flies one to the moon. The Stroes go Garcia to Taylor, to Peretti's, to scrub, to Rayleigh, to Presley, which meant Dusty had a plan. It's a 4-3 walk-off final. Houston makes it a series 3-2. Boogity, boogity. Dusty has a plan.

I didn't know where you're going with the the Randy Johnson and then you said he took his big unit out and he got me. You like that. You like penis jokes. Yeah. I do like penis jokes.

For sure. Magic Johnson. That's one right there. Good one. I've never once thought of his name as like a magical penis. It kind of I know the emotion you're feeling right now.

It blew me away. Steve Hallis opened my eyes to that. Shout out. Really? Okay. That's interesting. He's got a Magic Johnson. Did Dusty have a plan? Because this plan didn't work.

That's great. Traff! Traff! Yeah, you know what? Quentin just says, can we finally get a Dusty as a plan shirt? Like, if they lose today, no one's going to buy it.

So it'll probably be a very easy and quick shirt. Maybe just a cloud of dust. I'll message our graphics guy right now. And say, can you make a simple but good? Dusty has a plan shirt. Dusty as a plant shirt. Yesterday.

Win the game? When the game isn't a good plan? I mean, he had Paredes come in, give up the runs, and then he had a blown save. Blown save. How good was that plan? Perea, the buggy man. I don't even know what you call this guy anymore.

He's a scariest dude in baseball right now. He gives me nightmares. Thinking about what he's going to do when he comes to the plate, I can only imagine what the opposing pitchers are thinking on the mound. people are making a big deal about him walking up and being like hey dusty i'm going to walk it off fucking everybody says that dude if you don't say to your manager when it's tied in the bottom of the ninth hey i'm gonna fucking hit a homer here i got you coach yeah everybody says that so pump the brakes on that it was awesome he did it and it was majestic and he pimped it and i liked

everything about it but remember i was the earliest dude on the asses Astros this year, giving them credit. I'll tell you, Trev. You're going to have two sides of it hating me, because Astros fans already hate me, and all the people that hate the Astros forever and always are going to hate me. When you're a heel and you announce yourself to the world, I'm the heel, and that's who I am, and then you put up, and then you continue to be the heel, that's so cool. That's Arod's biggest problem.

He never embraced heel. If Arod was like, yeah, I pick up. on my cousin's carpet. Yeah. I did steroids and won MVP's. So what? People would, like, in a weird way, respect him more. But instead he tells the line, tries to be like a likable guy.

And it's like, no one likes. But that's the thing, though, with Correa is he doesn't say that. He's tiptoeing around the heel. He's playing victim. So when I hear the heel, yeah. He needs to be like, fuck it. We cheated because we were trying to win. All I give a fuck about is win.

And I'm winning right now. So if they win again. he needs to say, so what? We cheated last time. You don't like it. We won fair this time and I did it. And then it's like, okay, that's cool. But man.

The only thing, the only thing on that team. His pimp job was, great. I don't think you're going to pimple. If you're going to pinp a walk off home run, that's the way to do it. And the other thing going on here that's one of my favorite dynamics in sports or even cinema is basically the dead man walking.

the guy in the movie his wife and kids have been taken from them you know they're going down swinging when they went down 3-0 that's what they hit okay so everyone hates us we're down 3-0 the most stacked up things could potentially get against us we're basically a joke let's go out here and go nuts and they're doing the damn thing and for korea to do it is almost unbelievable uh such a such good replays. I mean, Altuva coming out of the dugout behind them. Dusty with the little dance.

I mean, the Astros are zombies. And I mean, the rays are going to have to dig deep to kill them. And at the same time, they almost did. I mean, G, man, with the big home run to tie it late, that felt impactful. But, man, the Astros are back in it. It's a 3-2 series. I love it. I love it, man. I don't know if they have enough to finish it off, to finish this comeback off. Well, they got Framber and McCullors now. I mean, they have... The storyline is there for the taking.

Frambers and McCullors outpitched Snell and Morton the last time they faced it. It's really hard to win four games in a row. I know, I know. But I'm saying if you're an Astros fan, right now, you can easily convince yourself. You're in the damn thing. Yes. You have momentum and your two starters outpitched their two starters. last time they faced. You're a special start from Framber away from being very end of this

series because now we're coming up against some bullpen walls, right? I mean, guys are pitching back-to-back days now and they, you know, they went full bullpen yesterday and it worked well enough. They held the race to three runs, which, you know, hey, if you told Dusty that before the game, I think he signs up for it. Yeah, man, I don't know. And this is the part that's kind of messing with me because I still do think the Rays are lined up better for the series and they played it this way. I mean, look who the Rays pitched yesterday. Yes,

they threw Anderson at the end who's a bad do and, hey, he's kind of been struggling this playoffs a little bit. He throws 21 pitches. But they went Curtis Fleming to Sledgers. I mean, those are... What was the final score of this one?

It was four to three. So, I mean, those are you know, three of the bottom five pitchers on this race team that they pitch in this game. They've kind of been playing for a six, seven game series, hoping to get, you know, sneak one out yesterday or the day before it hasn't happened, that they're still set up to go, you know, Snell full bullpen, and then Morton slash Glassnow full bullpen, which is a scary proposition,

which if Houston's going to try to do this thing, I mean, they're going to have to pitch bullpen guys four days in a row and it's going to get ugly. but the fact that they even have that option is awesome. Springer, he deserves some love. Talk about setting the tone. Another lead off Homer. I think he's like third or fourth all time in postseason home runs. That's insanity.

They pitched around Altovae yesterday, El Tuve with two walks. The game started it with the homer and ended with the homer. It's kind of cool. How about that? And I guess on the Ray's side, my only other note is Lau hits the homer. It's his only hit on the day. Hopefully that sparks him. he's been missing.

Well, the lefties get going, and they got a rightie. Two righties count up, or Framber's a righty? Framber's lefty. Oh, yeah. I love Framber. I'm excited to watch him. I love Framber too. He's going to use that little kids' mid again today.

I can't think of this. But look here, Nick Anderson, if you look at his, I mean, he's pitched twice this series. In the second game, one inning pitch, three hits, two walks. Gave only one run. Then then this one, obviously, one in a third with the first. home or to end the game. It seems to me like with him and Glassnow, you know, they both throw cheese. It's a majority straight. I know Glassnell's cuts a little bit, but it cuts early. You see it a lot. So it's all about timing for these guys. Seems like they got the fastball timed up. And what's been

working against the Astros is that octopus arm plan where you're throwing a bunch of guys from different angles. The guys that are right over the top with heaters, which is Glassenet. and Anderson, they look like they're kind of on that. So either those guys got to spin it more, or maybe you just kind of figure it out without them. Because, you know, you can't, you got a lead in game six, and Anderson comes in. You're probably not feeling great about it

if it's against that meat of the order there. Am I right about that? Am I, am I, am I, is it, am I overreacting to this? I think the only thing you're, missing there is, and it's, again, part of the raise advantages, Anderson doesn't have to be the closer for them. Anderson can come in the fifth inning in a nice lane to get them a clean inning. And, you know, you can have Castillo close it out. They could have Fairbanks close it out. So I think in a normal playoff series, you'd be like, oh, we got their closer, we have unlimited

hope. Like, that's definitely a thing in baseball. Interested to see how cash handles it. Because, you know, when Anderson's at his best, he is the best of those three. but this playoffs he's been a little shaky and Castillo's been disgusting. Maybe you try to get him in in the bottom of the order, get him a clean inning, get him in there. You know, you want to use him.

He's an excellent pitcher, you know, like he's not a bad pitcher. I'm just saying, like, there are times where as a lineup, you have a collection of guys who just see someone well and, like, they could go away at any moment, but right now it seems like the Astros

have seen him pretty well. I would imagine Cass is seeing the same thing and it's going to be like, okay, we might see some Aaron Loop. More Aaron Loop today who, you know, he's making a believer out of me. Is he, though? He is.

Watching him throw and seeing some of the swings and 95 from that angle, if you pair it with somebody, pretty good. All right. Is that all? You got anything else? I mean,

G-Man had a nice day at the office. I think they normally sit him versus lefties. I think they need him in that lineup. Fuck, yes! Yeah, that's good. That was fun. That was fun. He's the man, huh? Oh, he's so like him.

We were going through his whole transaction thing on the live stream last night. If you were watching with us, thank you. Fun. Join us. We'll be doing it again. Gee, man, if you're a baseball nerd and you end up on baseball reference, go check out his transaction page because it is the wild ride of baseball that he is now the biggest, well, Randy Roserena. but the second biggest threat in the race line he's not a human that's the biggest thing randy going deep again come on just you know yeah he just he does it he lives for that you know

has there ever been a bad baseball player from cuba trev yeah um you know my stance if i'm a gn people might hire me just for that take i'm because i'm no the the red sox king of triple Rosny. Resny. Resny. He's been really good in Tripoli. It's a little different with him because he signed that big deal. I think he's good enough to be a major league player, but if they bring him up to the majors,

they owe him exponentially more money or something like that. So that's why he just stays in AAA. He's actually not a bad baseball player. He's been solid. And hey, if that's the outlier that's still not off. awful, you know. I'm going to walk in. I'm just going to, like, put this out.

I'm going to have a LinkedIn up. I'm looking for GM jobs. The only thing I'll say about myself is that I will go all out to sign Cuban baseball players. And I'll probably get a job. Advisory role, man. Get some side kish and just tell them, like, sign every Cuban. That's it.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm done. The meeting's done. So yeah. Thank you. That'll be 500 grand. That'll be 500 grand.

Yeah, Rosny's to lit up. triple a last three years. It's nuts. It's a weird thing. I forget what it is. I'm sure you could just look it up. It's something like they'd have to guarantee a couple more years on this guy. I don't know, whatever it is. And apologize to any Braves and Ray's fans listening before we pivot. Or maybe this is an after we pivot conversation. Whatever. MLB saw Dodgers Astros World Series in front of their face. And they, if you're a conspiracy theorist out there, if you think that professional leagues rig games, I don't. Besides the NBA, it's been proven.

If you think, like if there's any, like if there's, if the raise and the Braves advance, let's, uh, the MLB never rigs anything. Because if there's ever a series to rig, when the fucking rays can't even get two million people to watch their ALCS games, 70% down in ratings. It would be to advance the. the Astros. So watch out for all you conspiracy theories. Watch if the Raisin Braves don't get any calls because I'm telling you, there's a oval meeting at MLB thinking, we're going to miss out on a lot of money here.

Put a couple funky balls when a different team's hitting. I don't know. Hey, who was the guy that was in AAA for the Yankees forever? What was his name? Lefty pitcher. Igawa. K. Igawa. He sucked.

So he was in Scranton. I used to love Facing that guy because he didn't give a shit. He would just throw just meatballs over the plate. But he would live, he lived in the city and would drive back and forth every day. He had a driver. That's awesome. He lived in New York City? He lived in New York City when he was to Scranton Pia.

I don't know what that is in a car. A couple hours. Three hours? Two, three hours? Two. I think you could... Two to three. You could sneak it out. Yeah. Every single day would drive back and forth and he would...

He had a driver and, like, he was just making whatever, like 10 million in AAA or something like that. This guy. Have your routine. Enjoy that car ride. Oh, fuck, dude. Well, he was bad. You ever hear the story about him? They called him over because they were, you know, um, Dice K.

They lost out on Dice K. So they wanted to... They signed him. Yeah, so they gave him because he was going to be the next big Japanese pitcher. And they signed him, and he supposedly had this great change up. And in his first bullpen session, who was it? Some Yankees bullpen catcher. I'm blanking on his name right now.

Stuart? I forget, caught, like, his first bullpen in spring training. And the bullpen pitcher got up and turned to, like, Brian Cashman. And it's like, why the fuck did you sign this guy? Like, said something like, this guy? He's got nothing. And then he made like four starts and he just got absolutely shelled. It's kind of funny.

It's the bullpen coach or catcher just caught one session turned around. It was like, this guy has nothing. That's bad. Two-hour drive. I think during our quarantine months, we did like a Kegawa talking Yanks discussion. And at some point, I crunched the numbers on like how much you got paid per MLB pitchy through. Because I think it's the worst contract they've ever done. Like people like to say Ellsbury who may be up there now or Kevin Brown

But Aga was worse than Brown he got like he threw like a hundred pitches and got Like what would you say? I want to say something like $10,000 per MLB pitch or something like that I'll crunch the numbers again It's it's wildly terrible anyway before we move on to game number two of the day Let's talk about draft Kings week five of football is in the books and now it's time to review the tape and get ready for week six. There's no better place to get in on all of the action than with Draft King's Sportsbook. America's top-rated sportsbook app. To add to the excitement of week six, Draft King Sportsbook is bringing back their can't miss offer. If you haven't tried

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Will they do it? Kerrish House on the bump. Jake. Honeymark. Get set. Burn. Dodgers trying to even up the series at 2. with their ace, an all-time great Clyton Kershaw versus the kid.

Well, another kid for the Braves, Bryce Bryce Baby, as Bryce Wilson tries to keep the Dodgers offense vanilla. Top three, Edwin Rios de Janeiro hits another one to Brazil. It's one-nothing Dodgers, bear siding in Arlington, the Big Bear Marcell-Ozuna, Big man making himself some money on that one-year deal. Tie game baseball! 1-1 into the 6th. Oh, no, spooky season.

You thought Pedro Baez's House of Horrors was scary. Welcome back to the Clayton Kershaw haunted postseason hayride. Ninth Green at 9, how about six runs in the 6? Akuna Matata infield single. Oh, no. Kershaw's Freddie free falling as he hits. an RBI double. Doppelganger, Dansby with the double.

Young thick. Austin Riley with the ribby single. Pass Shea caps it off. 7-1. Braves. Oh my God. Dodgers have a rally. Forming base is loaded.

One out. They only get one run on a sack fly. Will Smith lines out to end the inning. Braves add some insurance runs. Bryce Wilson have a day. Six innings pitch, one hit, one earned run from the 22-year-old. Bullpen is Smith, Martin, Matt's it green. Braves take game for 10 to 2.

They take a 3-1 lead in the series. Yaw! Wow. That's hot, baby. I was scorching right there. Wow. Do you like that one, Trev? Wow.

I did. Wow. I enjoyed this game immensely. a lot of great things happened Bryce Wilson he's another thick boy too He was a young boy thick boy I mean talk about I made fun of Bryce yesterday

A couple just it was just a little bit of ribbing I wasn't wasn't anything too serious I said he wore his hat under Or his hair under his hat As a kid which he for sure did I said his name was spelled weird And he went out there and just shoved against What is the best lineup in baseball

I mean, I mean, you take Bryce Wilson and you do the claw game from Toy Story or any arcade and you pick them up and then you go back in time to 1995 and you drop them in the Braves bullpen and no one shrugs. I see what you're saying. That's a 90s Braves reliever. That's what they look like. But what an outing by him. His parents were there getting juiced up. That always gets me when you have the family members there just going nuts. So happy for him.

Dodgers, what do they have? Three hits? Yeah, well, he, you know, I said, on the pregame show, I said, I wonder if Bryce Wilson was watching what they did to Kyle Wright and saying, oh, shit, they're just going to come swinging. And he knew it. And the Dodgers came swinging. And what they did was extend the guy who was probably only fingers crossed,

give us three, Bryce, and let him go six. He faced 20 batters. Only four or five of them saw more than four pitches. I mean, 15. 15 of the 20 batters were out of the box after the fourth pitch. They were- Four pitches through six. That's really good.

They were swinging early and they were not getting hit. So he was making his pitches worthwhile, not just throwing any get-me-over fastballs or get-me-over curves. So I applaud him for that. I mean, that's kind of what playoff stories are all about. Yeah. And we were just underestiming this Braves team all the time.

I underestimated their offense, their pitching staff. We kind of didn't give, we said this is going to be a bullpen day. Maybe it was supposed to be that, but Bryce made sure it wasn't that. And now here they are of three games to one on the freaking Dodgers, man.

Yeah, the Braves offense is sick, though. That sixth inning or fifth inning? What was it? Sixth in the sixth. I mean, that was unreal a little bit, Like a Zuna gets it Everyone just kept getting hits Just hard hits

Hard, just good contact It's the It's like the inning people Would use to fight against analytics Even though it is analytics I mean everyone just came up And hit bullets in play And it's just

It's a very lonely feeling When you're the opposing team Just seeing balls fly by you Every direction Every single batter it feels like I want to go back to Bryce Wilson for a second. We do continue to underestimate these Braves and it's craziness. His fastball command was really good. I thought that, and then I heard Harold Reynolds say it,

and people listen to his baseball stuff, so I'll double pass that on for me and HR. Man, and the bigger thing, so that six-run-six is massive, and it's crazy, and it's this Braves offense. They've kind of done this all year. You know, it starts with Acuna, goes down. I mean, when Dan's being young thick are hitting. It's a seven, eight deep person lineup. Hell, Pache, the kid is doing it at the bottom. Yes. But if Bryce Wilson doesn't go out and drop dick like this,

we talk about, you know, baseball's butterfly effect. If Bryce Wilson had given up two runs in six innings, I think this game is very different. You know, the Dodgers would have had the lead and Kershaw. Again, playoff Kershaw's nightmares. You know, he's one-earned run through. five in a pretty big NLCist start, but then he

goes out there, things fall apart another, I mean Kershaw disaster of sorts. And it's all set up because Bryce Wilson did what he did. I want to keep going on the Braves, but I do have to touch on this. Well, hold on.

Pache and Camargo. Camargo wasn't on the roster. He replaces Duval. Pache had four at bats in the regular season in his MLB career. Yeah. Four MLB at bats before the postseason. Those guys had a 500 on base percentage last night.

They got on base three times and six at bats or played appearances, whatever. So, I mean, that's just, what the fuck's that? Yeah. Oh, awesome. It's something that I was teasing through the season. Yeah, pat yourself on the back, Jake, for knowing Paschae would be in here. No. The thing I was looking forward to was young.

guy stepping up. I was saying this all year. I didn't know how teams were going to handle it. And I thought teams would call up their young guys, because normally that's a postseason story. Like, oh, they called up this guy midway through the year and he's a stud. Because you always go with talent in the postseason. Look at Luis Garcia, who got the pill in the Houston game. I mean, he's got 12.1 major league career innings. Bryce Wilson, I think he's got 40 innings, but they're the most talented. You'd rather throw Bryce Wilson with his talent and his age, then, you know, not to throw more shots fired at Josh Tomlin in the pen, but that guy's had a big league career.

Like, that's kind of the old thinking in baseball. Like, yeah, Tomlin's been through a lot of wars. I know he doesn't have the same talent as Wilson, but let's give him the start. No. Bryce Wilson, you're a lot talented. Go out there and figure it out, dude. And, yeah, I mean, same thing with Pasché. So it's cool seeing all these young guys on different teams step up and, you know,

Peretti's again for Houston. and a Rosarena, everyone on Tampa. So that's kind of been a cool story of this playoff, all the young dudes. You got something on the Dodgers, Treve? Yeah, you know, about the young guys on the Braves. The pitching side may be a little different. I don't have as much experience on that side. But as far as the hitters, you know, Peschet and Carmargo, you know, he's been around.

But it's the fact that the rest of the lineup, those guys that have been there are killing it. that that opens the door for Pache to be, you know, uh, confident up there. Yeah. You know, like those guys have to be going and then he goes. Eventually he'll be,

he'll be one of those guys too, but it just makes you feel so much more comfortable and like, you know, you know, the hitting is contagious, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's fun to watch him go up there because that is just like an added like dagger. When the bottom of the lineup can do that.

But I don't think it happens unless, Marcel's going off, Freddy's going off. I think that really alleviates a lot of the pressure. That's a great point, Trevor. The Kirshaw thing, our good buddy Jack Davis, he retweeted somebody and he said, and it was something like, why do the big Jays feel like they have to protect Kirchah? Now, I'm wondering, I'm going to ask to chat this,

what is your preconceived notion with, Kershaw? Do you think about him as one of the best pitchers of our generation, or do you think about him as playoff Kershah? Because I think, I actually don't want to say what I think until the chat answers that. Jimmy's got an answer. We'll get some more chat responses. We'll let Jim. James, O'Brien? The more this happens in the postseason, Jake, what's his ERA in the postseason? It's 170 innings now. A hundred seventy-seven innings of four-three ERA. And what's his ERA in the regular season? 2.43 in his career.

His worst season ever since his rookie year is a 303. The more this happens in his postseason, the less I care about the regular season. And I think that weekend division and nine-hole catchers and pitchers hitting really help him out. I think he's one of the best regular season pitchers ever. But, I mean, we're talking a lot of playoffs. starts, Trev, a lot of innings. And when he's going up against the best of the best, where every at bat matters,

and you're not getting a pitcher hitting, and you're not getting a shitty backup catcher hitting, and you're playing the fucking, you know. This is on Dave Roberts last night. I'm sorry. I know you got to have chosen your guys. No, he should have never seen the lineup a third time. No.

But there's 177 innings now, Trev. I think a playoff, I think I will think. Dan Marino. You can't say one without the other. But I'm in L.A. where he gets talked about a ton. I'm curious on a national level what people think. And the chat's kind of split on it. But I don't think he gets protected by Big Jays.

I don't think he does. In fact, I think early on he got wrongly accused as being a bad playoff pitcher. But now, the more, like you said, the more it happens, the more credence that has to it. And there's been a little, there's been. a little bit of a roller coaster because he got lit up and then everyone kind of went two in on it. And then analytics kind of came back and it's like, hey, guys, maybe let's not judge Clayton Kershaw, one of the best pitchers ever with, you know, how many career, 2000 career regular season innings off of, you know, a sample size of postseason starts.

And you're like, that kind of makes sense, especially when you add in some of the relief performances and you can dance with the numbers like Clayton Kershaw, I think before the seventh inning of games, I think his ERA is in the threes or something more respectable. I forget what it is. There's just no way to get around it anymore. I mean, it's two points higher. His ERA is two points higher. Are there numbers that support him being unlucky? Like, sometimes that happens. I haven't taken a deep dive into him. It doesn't seem like it. When I watch him pitch, I'm like, I don't think he was unlucky. What I think of playoff Kersha, I think about when he can't, against the nationals last year.

Yeah. His ERA goes up in every round, 402 in the NLDS, 484 in the CS-5-4 in the World Series. There's just a body of work here that sucks, and I still feel bad for the guy, but the other thing that I was using, because I do want to be fair about it. I don't want to kill this guy if it's not fair.

I think it is fair, and the one Jakey Shower, had this morning was if we had a pitcher who in the regular season had a 4-3 ERA but then in his postseason career he had a 243 we'd be like that guy has stones that guy is the man like he you know when it's playoff rondo something like that like we would be we would scream from the mountaintops about the stones on this dude so i think at the same time if you flip the script I was hoping this was the start and this was the year. Yeah, I was hoping for him to get the demons of his back.

Trev, I have something for you that. When we've been watching these do live watchalongs and stuff, I find myself of this opinion and it seems no manager cares about it. Acuna bounces one over Kirschaw's head. He runs for it, tries to field it. He ends up on the ground because he fell. They almost make a fantastic play to get Acuna, but then he's safe and then Ocuna's hurt.

I was like, what the fuck is this play? When pitchers are tasked to field the ball later in the game, like when they're nearing the end, right? They're nearing the end of their time in this game, and they're tasked to field a ball. It happened with hat, and they grab the ball, and they throw it away, or they have to make a diving, running, sprinting play,

and it doesn't go in their favor. Like that Ocuna play? I keep finding, take him out. His headspace is shot right now. He just had to get off the mound, field of play. He's on the ground. It's all for nothing. You're going third time through the order.

I would have not done him against the Kunia at all. But once that happens, I'm like, you got to take Kershaw out here. He just threw himself on the ground, and he's third time through. Like, it's not a good recipe for his mental state. Same thing with Hap, with the Yankees, when he, him in Voight miscalculated two plays. And I was like, get him out of there. Because there's no way this dude is thinking. about the next app bat. He's thinking about all the shit that just happened. And then Hap gave up

a home run. And then Kershaw gives up back-to-back doubles. So I don't know if that's like Jimmy Liddix. If the pitcher has to make a play off the mound and doesn't make it and his time's running out anyway, just get him out of there because his headspace is shot. I love it. What do you got, BVD? I see you trying to chime in over there. The chats mentioned there is a little bit of like Roberts funny business with Kershaw and recent playoffs stuff where it's like he's let him go one in the tongue what you've said is also true because it's still not Kershaw. But the reason why Roberts lets him go is because he thinks of him as regular season Kershaw and Kershaw has to constantly remind him this is postseason Kershaw.

I'm a different guy. Bobby? It's a body of work. It's been a degree of funny business. When you put it like that, I hate it. It's true though, Trev. He is the same guy. His numbers are different.

I think honestly what I think it is is this time of the year. He's already, you know, maybe not this year because he was only, it was only, 60 game season, but still this time of the year, I mean, yeah, you want to still be strong, but I mean, it's hard to do that. He's logged over 2,000 in his career. Like, he only has so many bullets. I think that's what Robert says to realize. I don't think he has to worry about playoff Kershaw.

It's how many pitches is this guy thrown this year, Kershaw? Seems like towards the end of the year he's been getting hit around. See, that's in October. So when you get through five innings and you got one run and you got a fresh bullpen and you got the middle of lineup coming up to me last night was a clear like, and I know it seems like hindsight right now. It seems like

that. But dude, the numbers, the numbers, the numbers support that decision. David Roberts is gone. That's what we said last season and he wasn't. Like three season. He fucked up last season just as bad as this. He's gone.

He's gone. He's gone. He's gone. And I think last night was a, unless, unless, they come back and they win the World Series. That's his saving grace. You can't do that again. You can't put him out there for the third time through line. That is like even the most novice of baseball fan now knows that third time through the order,

almost 100% across the board. There was a shot on Robert's face. It might have been when Christian Pache got Victor Gonzalez and he was his third pitcher used that inning or it might have been in the eighth inning when Ozuna got and got McGee. But there was like a zoom in on, on Roberts face in the dugout. And my thought was he's gone. I thought was like, this is a guy who knows he's gone. I mean, I wish, man. Well, I don't wish. That's pretty mean to Dave Roberts. I don't know him as a guy. I hear he's a really nice cool. It seems very nice. I don't want him to, like, I'm not wishing him to be fired. I'm just saying,

like, a team like that gets put together. You went eight straight National League West titles with nothing to show for it. I mean, any other team, how long has you been the manager for? Five years? 10 to 15? Something like that. He signed a four-year extension in 2018 that runs through 2022. And Treve, I mean, I'd normally be with you, but I feel the past two years I've been saying, like, they've got to get rid of Roberts, right? Last year, we thought there was no way he came back.

And who knows? I do think there is a little bit of series to go. And Treve, the only thing I'd counter you with on the Kerrshaw third time through, And I think it's part of the problem with this discussion is, yes, those numbers are there and they're, you know, very clear and everyone follows them, except the Verlanders. I mean, you know, if you got Scherzer five innings pitched, one earn run, like any of the guys that Clayton Kershaw should be mentioned with and wants to be mentioned with his regular season numbers,

if you can't do it in the postseason, that's a big enough point. Yeah. I agree. I agree. You have to realize who you have out. there as a manager right yeah yeah uh i will i want to give dansby a little shout out and austin riley because dansby taking that 100 mile graderall pitch for a double i was impressed by dansby's got that in him and then i was like danesby had a good year danzby and azuna playing for

contracts and and like their future perception and they both are are doing real big things i said you guys of trip. I was just looking at the chat. Wilmer says he's not top five in his generation. Fight me. Just, I get the recency bias here, but go look at his baseball reference page and then come back and talk to us. A lot of bold. It's all bold. I'm going to keep referencing this. Young short kings of baseball said this team is expected to win multiple titles this decade. And when you see Bryce Wilson, the 22-year-old come up, Kyle Wright, I know he got knocked around. Anderson, Max Fried. They've got a stable coming up.

Soroka's hurt. He's out. If Kershaw was getting the Trout treatment and never seeing the playoffs, everyone would be like, damn, how can we not get this dude in the fucking postseason? Best picture of our generation. We're never going to see him in the playoffs. So maybe Trout's like, yeah, I'll be the regular season here.

What does you love to see that right now? Just big daddy Trout just taking over a game. There is no doubt my mind that Mike Trout would be a postseason star. I don't care what you say. There's no way you can convince me that that guy would slump in the playoffs. No way. I won't try. I won't try. He never slumps ever. Should we give the Braves more love? Well, we have given the Braves a lot of love, which we've taken at the expense of Clayton Kershaw. At the top of the lineup yesterday, Mookman, we're talking about Mike Trout in the playoffs. Mookman goes O for four. Corey Seeger goes O for four. The two whip bet, two hitters at top

the lineup. And I do want to dig up Mookie's postseason numbers. 30 games, 240, 331, and 695 OPS. They also showed Mookie a shot of Moogie. Just a sad. Oh man, Mokey's really sad. Real sad. That's a pretty small sample size for Mokey. It's 30 games. It's small. It is the sample size of what he's got.

I mean, you know. I'd also say that he probably. has a positive war because of what else he brings up to the field. Right. I mean, he plays... You'd want him to hit more than that. He plays incredible defense, but I mean, this is a guy with a lifetime 895 OPS who's got 695 in the postseason. So fucking added Mookie, added Trinan, added Brewster.

All looked great. Big game coming up. Where should we talk about it? Fucking added Mookie, added Gratterol, added Trinan, and you get beat. by fucking Bryce Wilson and Pache and Camargo are on base three times. Dude, you added Dustin May. You added Tony Gonslin, who these guys have been incredible too. Dustin May could be the White Knight today. We'll see how that goes.

But I do have some big Dodger Yankees trades going on, just pure shakeup. So look out for that. He wants to give the Dodgers another. bad playoff reliever for them. Chapman to the Dodgers. Dodgers would be like we already have that, dude. We already have a bad postseason closer. Kershaw to the Yanks.

Mix it up. I mean, it's a fair comp between Chapman and Kershaw. Mix it up. Chapman now has been given up. He's given up some homer, some big moment homers. That's all that anyone's ever going to remember about Chapman in the postseason are those homers. Roger Davis, Al-Tuvay. He's a meme.

Yes? Who with the last one? Rousseau. Rousseau. Brasso. Still 2-4 ERA for Chapman. He was kind of heroic for the Cubs before Rajai. Oh, my gosh, yeah. I know. But he's an idiot.

That's what you remember. Yeah. That's also why I kind of want him off the Yankees. If you're going to be a bad guy, get out of here. Be a bad guy and give up. Who, Chapman? Yeah. He's been a bad guy.

I know. Don't give up iconic comers. I know. He has been good in everything but those things. Too much yanks. Too much yanks. Good job. Caravis always tweets out that, like, you know, he fired his gun and his girlfriend, which isn't true. And I wonder, like, if, like, Chapman and his camp could, like, I'm always like, Jared, I don't know if you can just say that as liberally as you say that. If you wanted to say now that garage walls should be scared of Chapman, yes.

Yeah, I'm not excusing Chapman at all. But I always am like, dude, I don't know. That seems like libel. I don't know how libel works, but, like, he didn't shoot at his girlfriend. Like, I don't know if you could just tweet that. But he does it every time Chapman gives a home run. The lawyer in me gets worried for. You know. Lawyer MathPod.

That's all we got. Two games. Two more games to go. I don't know. I went all over the place, but I think we did a good job. Yeah. It's a lot. Didn't get quite enough Keogawa.

Mm. That's a good point. Well, tell them the final number. Get the ball. For anyone that's not in the patron chat, BPD, tell them the final Kia Gawa numbers and then we'll assume, I did the math right, 20 minutes. million dollars almost 1300 career pitches so that's 15,420 and 20 cents per MLB pitch he through not bad get that money actually a good point there was a ton of wind i don't know i mean shut

the freaking yeah well then everyone's going to get sick i don't think they can because of kovi is that what it is for real yeah i don't think that's told and i'm believing it yeah i was told they could I feel like you're in a small space. You're in a massive stadium. There's plenty of oxygen to go around, dude. Yeah, but I'm guessing. Yeah, because if it rains, does it not rain in Arlington at that time?

Exactly, exactly. So this is, this is the problem I have with all these COVID restrictions is they're just, like, picked out of thin air. It's like, okay, casinos can open up, but I can only have one household at my personal residence. Can't leave the table on a heater, man. That makes a lot of sense.

It's just all arbitrary and it makes me upset. But everyone stay safe. Yeah. Love you. Pre-game show. Goodbye.