Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 235 | World Series Game 3

Episode Date: October 24, 2020

The Dodgers went up 2-1 and Jomboy & Jake are in Arlington! The boys recapped Game 3's action from Friday night Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecas...t, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Today is October 24th. We are live in Arlington here to recap game three. Let's do it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. If we sound a little different today, because we're not in the Roosevelt Studios, Bronx. We're in Roosevelt Studios, Arlington at a house about a block away from what's Dallas Stadium?
Starting point is 00:00:42 Yes. The Dallas Stadium. Globe life. Globe life. My name's Jimmy. Jake is sitting right next to me. Producer Bugbug set up already. Trevor Plough is on his fishing trip.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Had some connectivity issues. We'll get him in later on. But we still got a game three to recap before we really get settled here. Jake, how are you doing? I'm good, James. I'm good. We just flew in, Uber'd here, met with the Airbnb people. Nice folk.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Some good. Texas high school football chatter. The Bishop bros of Al-Illita. Giving away our location. We just told you we're by the stadium. Yeah, no, really nice people. But now, you know, the baseball switch is back on. And it's kind of, you know, it's been a whirlwind 12 hours for us,
Starting point is 00:01:34 thinking that this World Series game was still last night. But it was. It was supposed to be the pitcher's duel for the ages. Walker Bueller climbs another step. up on the ladder and like playoff pitcher history. Charlie Morton comes back down to Earth for the first time in a while. And the rays might be in a little bit of trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You, what were you saying on the stream last night? I forget. I was blocked up. You forget. I have some thoughts and stuff like that. I have something for you, Jake. Yeah. This postseason.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. Is killing pitchers. Mm. Charlie Morton just looked tired. Pitching a lot. And I think Tanaka and Morton were both on the list of like the list of like, you know, minimum five outings. They have the lowest DRA. And Tanaka fell off this year.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And now Morton fell off. But you know who added himself? Walker Bueller. Walker Bueller. Walker Bueller. Yeah, a lot of the short kings of baseball were firing off their tweets. I think Walker Bueller's nine playoff starts or however many he has. as are historic and it's insane.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And yeah, I mean, Charlie Morton has still been good this playoffs. Our guy, Tank, kind of didn't have a good playoff start this year. And I think, I mean, man, honestly, Morton didn't look great, sure, but it's also just a credit to the Dodgers. It's a different lineup. And that's been, I feel like the theme of these first two games has been essentially, when the Dodgers dominate, you just feel like these. are two teams in different leagues.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Well, yeah, and that's kind of what I was saying on the pregame show is that Walker Bueller and Charlie Morton are both good pitchers, but they're facing completely different caliber lineups. Like that's what I said on the pream. I was like Walker Buehler's got the easy leg up here because he doesn't have to face the Dodgers. Yeah. No, I mean, it felt kind of similar to game one, where Kershaw and the Dodgers dominated.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then, you know, the Rays almost had to play. their A game in that game two to win and they only won 6-4 at the end of it. So I don't know. I mean, there are still some positive race spins tonight's game. Nothing is promised. We will be at the match.
Starting point is 00:03:55 You see how much room we have? Yeah. I was kind of got excited about this during the live stream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, we, uh, I pulled the couch this way and the table this way a little bit, so we got a little extra room. So, yeah, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's, uh, it feels like, For the rest of the way, something drastic would have to happen. Bad for the Dodgers are great for the race. For the race to come back in this one. I have still hopeful they make it a series even. We have to do the burn and get into this actual gameplay, but just a little more overarching thing is this series hasn't had a thing yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It has not had a moment yet. The guy. The home run guy. He's the biggest. He's the number one moment. But this whole play. Doesn't really have a moment, man. No, it's been, I was reading some casual fans' takes.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I was going to find non-diehard baseballs, and the consensus kind of was like it's been a boring postseason. There's no eighth, ninth inning comeback. There hasn't been any of that all postseason. The most exciting thing was the Dodgers Padres game with Brewster and belly robbing Tatee's. That was like the biggest moment, but we're talking. That's early divisional series. And still there was no comeback.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Like the comeback never got completed. Well, that would have been a comeback. She robbed it. It would have been to go ahead home run. And then... Cleveland and the Yankees had some entertaining. Sorry, everyone. But still, the fact that we're...
Starting point is 00:05:19 That's so early. The fact we're still digging at that is the point. And Bellinger's home run in game seven. Or six, was it? Yeah, game seven against the Braves. But I mean, I still think that was like the seventh inning. Like, I don't know. A-th inning.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And then they just closed that. But I think... Yeah. That's the... of this postseason, that's the biggest moment. And the fact that we're doing that... and we're reaching for those moments is the point. So I'm saying so, so I stand here today sitting on this couch saying the rays are dead in the water unless we get this moment. Belly was in the seventh eat of bug.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Nice. We get this moment that goes in the race favor. Yeah. We haven't had like Davey Martinez getting ejected because the baseline call. We haven't had, you know, even the Dodgers and Red Sox when they went that. 16 inning game and Avaldi did what he did to save the pan. Like, we haven't anything. Bill Maseroski's walkoff in game seven, that hasn't happened yet.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yeah. So let's do the burn. Let's do the burn. Talk about it. Let's do the bird. I'm rooting for game six, but this series will end in two days. I don't think so. Yarburo show.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I love YARB. On your mark. Get set. Burn. Jakey burn. Pivotal game three. of the 2020 fall classic. Ace is wild as the saltman, Charlie Martin.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Everybody's talking about my tight pants. Walker Bueller takes the bump for the Dodgers. Turn around. J.T. solo shot. It's one nothing in the first. Top three, like Jerry Gergich visiting his timeshare. It's Muncie Time. Two RBI single from Max.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Austin Barnes with some. baseball. Safety, Anaconda Squeeze, followed by a mooky Ribby. It's 5-0 Dodger. Trevor Ploofs World Series MVP, slick Willie Adomas would hit an RBI double, but that's all the raise would get off Bueller. Six innings pitch, one run, run 10Ks, another crazy playoff start for Walker, Vandy, go doors. Barnes accidentally hits a home run later to Arod's dismay and a little ring around the Rosa Rain a late was not enough as he set some more playoff records. Bueller to Trinen to Gratterall to Kenley, Dodgers win 6-2, and go up 2-1 in the series.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Very well done. What was the Muncie line? I was reading Trevor's thoughts and then BBD let out a big giggle. Yeah, I got BBD. It's a good, if you're a Parks and Rex fan, I mean, it was a good one. It was top three, like Jerry Gergich visiting his time share, it's Muncie time. Muncie. Jerry famously has a time sharing Muncie in Indiana because that's the most Jerry thing that you could think of. It's good. Good job. Trevor's thoughts on the game. I was trying to do some
Starting point is 00:08:24 safety squeeze jokes, but they all came out like too heavy. It was like hugging a relative if you don't know if you're going to see them again. Give them a safety squeeze. Oh yeah, yeah, like before a flight. Or like a little kid scared with their teddy bear, a safety squeeze. So they didn't really feel like it was part of the burn. What? The teddy bear one's good. Okay. Well, not the, uh, like saying goodbye to a loved one that's going off to World War II.
Starting point is 00:08:50 That one works. I didn't say that, but I didn't say that. You can see it getting dicey. A safety squeeze. Like giving a hug to a kamikaze pilot. No, that's not a safety squeeze. That's a goodbye squeeze. I've had some goodbye squeezes in my life.
Starting point is 00:09:06 What would a BBD laugh at this time? David. Comicazi squeeze. Oh, okay. Okay. Here are Trevor's thoughts on the game. Trevor's thoughts. It was stupid to say Charlie Morton is battle tested
Starting point is 00:09:18 when Bueller has been every bit as good as him in the playoffs and has plenty of starts of his own. Seeger's at bat against McClanahan, McLaughan, whatever, he put in parentheses, was as good as you'll ever see, 98 to 100 left on left, and he kept taking balanced hacks. I told my brother that he was going,
Starting point is 00:09:42 to hit a line drive to left, and he did. He is so locked in right now, it's a problem. Balanced hacks would be like a cool thing on like a crime scene report. Like, you know, like that's how you link a serial killer. Like all of these slangs have really balanced hacks. This guy knows what he's doing. Okay. Just getting my Horatio on.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah. You know, one on an airplane, so. Okay. Usually thinking about Horatio. Yeah. I'm the most pathetic man in the world. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah, the Dodgers just outdid everyone. Our dude, Justin Turner, Jake, had a really good game. A couple nice plays at third. One really good pick at third. I think he had the home run early. He had the double later on to really add insult to Charlie Morton's Day. Is he like World Series MVP right now? Is it Bueller?
Starting point is 00:10:39 It's only one start for Bueller. I don't know. And the other thing is, I'm going to pat myself on the back because I guess that the score would be somewhere around 6 to 1. And then I told you guys that they were going to go Gratterol, Trine, and Kenley. I said when we were debating the bullpen, I said it's going to be Bueller, Gratterall, Trine, and Kenley. And they're set up fine.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Dodgers are set up so good. Yeah, Trine and Graterall Jansen finish this one. Jansen gets clipped. And I know some Dodger fans didn't even want them getting used. You kind of had to get them in there. And yeah, I mean, they used the good bullpen up five. And, no, I mean, I wasn't debating you that those three are their best guys. I think my whole argument on that is that other guys are going to be needed the rest of this series.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Do you still think that? Yes. Okay. Because I think we're going six games and they're going to burn guys. I mean, it's, again, it's a 90% overlap because how important are those innings? I don't know. It depends how the games play out. But I think if we go six, they're going to need.
Starting point is 00:11:41 those other bodies. And like we've seen the rest of these playoffs, I think the Dodgers may even be willing. Like if you're the raise, the importance on getting an early lead with the way teams use bullpins now is so, so important. Because the Dodgers will literally let a game go.
Starting point is 00:12:01 That's what I said. That they don't need May or Gonsland to be good. They can just lose that game and then win the next two. Right. But depending, again, and this also ties back, Back into where we started about these playoff games, we haven't had the moment yet. We haven't had a tie game where teams are using their good bullpen and then they're burnt them out for the next day. That's kind of why these playoffs haven't been exciting because we've seen teams constantly be like, okay, we're down.
Starting point is 00:12:24 We'll lose this game. Let's set up for the next two. And that is why I think we're going to get at least six games because I do think the rays are going to get on top again. And then you'll see the Dodgers go by as Kelly, buy as May, by as whatever. Yeah, we're getting a little into pregame show here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dodgers dominated, man. I mean, people were calling us out on the stream,
Starting point is 00:12:45 A, because we did have some other stuff on our mind with traveling today, but I don't know, I mean, once the Dodgers went up, 3-0-0-0-0-0. The game was over, seriously over. The Rays don't have that offensive punch. That's the whole thing in sports right now, whether you go to... They don't even have, like, a combination of three guys where, like, you say, who's coming up next
Starting point is 00:13:07 and, like, give me, like, any Dodgers. order, you know. I mean, Mooky Seeger Turner. Okay. Oh shit. Mookie Seager. Like, the, the Rays don't have any combination of three.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yeah. It would be, you have to build it around Randy. Right. It's Meadows Lauer Rosarena. Or Roserana G-Man, Margot last night. Margot's been playing well.
Starting point is 00:13:27 But then, but still, that's nothing. Look at the scales. Yeah. Look at the scales. They just don't, they're not built to,
Starting point is 00:13:32 to give you any fright. Like, the way that the Ray's offense works is they surprise you. You don't see it coming. Yeah. You know, like, oh, shit, this might be a close inning like you are with, you know, bringing in Fleming or Curtis against the Dodgers lineup where you're like, uh-oh, we hope we can escape this one. There's no feeling like that with this raised lineup, which is not how they're built.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And I'm not really trying to be rude to them because they got to the World Series because they can surprise you and jump on pitches and get those sneaky rallies often. Right. The problem is their pitching has not stopped the Dodgers, really. Yeah. And hey, three games, they, you know, they won the second one. But no, it feels. Yeah, it is only two to one.
Starting point is 00:14:14 But it feels like the Dodgers are up seven to south. Yeah. To go cross sports a little bit, it's kind of the new age of sports where the Dodgers feel like the Kansas City Chiefs. Like even if the Dodgers were down three runs early, they're like, it's no thing. We're still going to have three more times through our lineup problem solved. Tampa's almost like a defensive football team where it's like, hey, if they've got a lead, they're pretty good. That defense can stand up. But if they go down, they can't come back.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It's almost like the Dodgers can play their backup catcher, and he can have a sack RBI button, and then also have a home run in the World Series. That was impactful. The Bunt, not the home run. And then the... A Rod hates it. And then the Ray's put in the Sheriff
Starting point is 00:14:59 his first World Series appearance. Good for him. Guy. Good for him. Sheriff. I mean, it's basically, that game was boring. Charlie Morton got got, but Walker Bueller was very impressive. Yeah, and as we arrived in Texas, it's kind of part of the reason I don't listen to a lot of
Starting point is 00:15:19 MLB analysis because you don't want to steal people's takes, but Greg, I'm Sanger, if I'm saying that right, he was saying like, if you're the race, and we're talking about bullpen usage and all that, you know, they went Morton to Curtis, Sheriff Thompson, McClanahan. Because they're down. So the race Like almost need to start playing Do or Die baseball, I think With the off day coming up
Starting point is 00:15:42 With these two games You kind of need to go to the good guys no matter what And this is With Yarborough I think they're able to do that too Because it's not Snell It's not glass It's not Morton
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah so this is where Trevor Plough Our co-host Is Is not He has too much of a player mentality It's too hot Sorry to talk about you Trevor
Starting point is 00:16:04 while you're not on the show, but I guarantee Oh, let's shit talk. I guarantee he's not listening. But like, because I'm going to use words and then he semantically will disagree with them. Okay. The Rays were,
Starting point is 00:16:14 were, um, the Dodgers were up one. They didn't scratch and fight and claw to win game two. The Rays are tied one-one. They don't have a lead. They don't scratch and fight and claw. They throw a guy,
Starting point is 00:16:34 that they've thrown for the first time in the World Series. They burn a bunch of pitchers that are in a winning effort squad. And that's why this World Series, I think, and these playoffs are boring,
Starting point is 00:16:43 like you're saying, because when teams are down, they're just saying, okay, well, if we come back, that's great, but we're not going to really kill anyone. And we're seeing, it's like Morton's the only winning pitcher
Starting point is 00:16:56 that got beat yesterday for the race. When the Dodgers lost, they didn't have a winning pitcher get beat. Victor Gonzalez has been very good and he was good in one inch, but it's a lefty lefty out guy but but we're not seeing no um you know we haven't had a a late inning comeback against a good pitcher because teams are kind of like whatever the game is they're kind of be like oh this is the game and and now the rays are going to hopefully after yardbrough
Starting point is 00:17:23 use their good pen but where i'm out is that i don't think they have a good pen anymore right you're you're currently out on fair banks i think they're tired I think they went to five games. They went to seven games, and they leaned on them so much. Anderson has six of eight earned runs. Fairbanks has been getting got lately. Castillo looks really good, and they've actually, like, limited him the most in a weird way.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And that's the other thing. I mean, you know, after with yesterday and the off day before that, you know, the Ray's good pen hasn't pitched in at least a couple days. And Castillo's only pitched, I think my stat was. it's 0.1 in the last week. Yeah. So, you know, these guys are fresh, and that's where I do think, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:11 the Dodgers were the big favorite coming into this series. The Dodgers are the better team. You know, I had the patent-in-line that Trevor's stanking credit for, and now you're taking credit for, and now BPD is taking credit for. The Dodgers are the raise with money. They're really well-run, but they can get the mooky bets on those guys. So they are a better team.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I just think this series can have more hutspahed to it, it, but it's kind of this back and forth that we've seen in every series. And with the Dodgers having the leg up, if they lose today, I don't think they give a shit. Like, I still think they're like, okay, well, we'll rest our good bullpen. There's another off day coming up. Like, we're set up, you know? Yeah, I agree with you. We're going to repeat ourselves on the pregame show. But as much as I love Yarby, I don't think the rays are set up to take, like, I agree with you that the Dodgers may go Ureus, and then if they don't have like a commanding lead
Starting point is 00:19:07 or if they're down one or two, they might go to, can Gonsland or may even go? Baez. They could. There's been decent, Kelly. You know, they might go to that second level guy. So like, so when you see that,
Starting point is 00:19:23 I think, okay, so this is a game the race can pounce on because it's not Kershaw, it's not Walker. But it's YARB and then and then the Arby's not going to go six, and then you have to use Anderson and Fairbanks, and I don't have faith in those guys being the high leverage guys that they have been in earlier in this postseason.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Right. So I think today's game is a coin flip and a fun one. It might be a shit show coin flip. Oh, today's going to be the best game ever. Yeah. And we don't have any bias in that. And yeah, I'm interested to see because I also think, you know, if Fairbanks came out today and does two innings and four Ks,
Starting point is 00:20:03 I think Fairbanks is fully back in this series and a force. Anderson has some work to do. It was weird that we just flew with him on the plane. Yeah, and we saw Pete Fairbanks on the plane, which was pretty cool. I owe that guy an apology. Did you see my tweet about that? They gave us those like wipe your hand things when you get on the plane. And because when we passed that guy, I threw mine at him.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I saw that. I saw him say, oh, thanks. Yeah. Why did you throw it at him? I just gave it to him to be silly just because, like, I don't know. that's like the last thing he'd expect. What did he say? We're figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:20:38 He just, he like half laughed and was half like, dude, like it's COVID and stuff. He can't do that. I watched you do it and it, it didn't sit well with me if I'm being honest. It didn't say well with me, BPD.
Starting point is 00:20:48 It just happened and I don't know why you brought it up. You told Treve the other day that you try to be normal around people and not scare him off. Once I know them, I knew that guy because we talked to him. That's my whole thing. So you're very quick.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yes. You have a two-second combo with him. I'm the most extroverted, introvert in the world. Once that seal is cracked, it's on. Your level of knowing someone is just way different than I think normal people's. We had a nice conversation with that guy at breakfast. At breakfast. He walked.
Starting point is 00:21:22 What would you call it? What meal were you eating? I was the only one eating food. Zach got food too. I got food as well. No one was eating at that point. He walked by, said, are you really John Boy?
Starting point is 00:21:33 I love the video of Brasso hitting the Chapman home run. He said which one of you is John Boy? Yes. And then he said I love the video. That was my favorite. Yeah, we had a nice talk with him. Maybe a minute, Max. And we saw him at Checkin, too.
Starting point is 00:21:45 We've known that guy for a while. Anyways. At Checkin, Jake said Raise Up and he said, yes. This has been, and he's Pete Fairbanks, so we know him. And we later saw him at baggage claim. Thank you, David. I do think that. We're basically dating.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I do think that he is Fairbanks' brother. He's related. Where's Fairbanks from? Where's Fairbanks from? Find out. So let's spin this back to the race. Because, okay, Justin Turner play great. Mookie stays hot.
Starting point is 00:22:10 He's an MVP candidate. We're pretty hot on the Dodgers for this series. If you are the race and you're grasping for some straws, a Rosarena hits another home run because he's a nut job. And he does hit it off Kenley. So again, if we're talking about things that could be impactful in this series, A, is Kenley back to being a problem. If a Roserayanan-B.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And B, is a Roserana special. Yeah. If you're the raise, you can still hang your hat on that a little bit. You know, and with Eureas today, the lefty, Rosarena's numbers were crazy against them. Your penis. Clip him in the first inning. Get a lead. Problem soft.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Boom. He's too young. Okay. Ureas only gives up home on the side. Fairbanks is a brother? Fairbanks is from St. Louis. How many brothers does he have? How many brothers does he have?
Starting point is 00:22:57 And does he have a brother named Paul Fairbanks that lives in New York City? Wikipedia doesn't give that much on the personal lives of Tampa Bay Rays. I'm not connected to the Y-Fi. Baseball for the Missouri Tigers and was a minor leaguer in the Houston Astros organization in 1983. Shane Firebikes. Okay. What else happened in this game? Nothing, really?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Really, not a lot. Yeah. Turner was good. Turner was really good. Tumooke stole another base. Yeah, I think Mookie is. hunting that MVP. Oh, you think he's stealing bases for no reason?
Starting point is 00:23:35 I think he's liking that he's getting love for the taco stuff, but I also think Mookie's trying to pad the stats and get that MVP. Ooh. I think it's an okay thought. Muncie, two for four. Jocktober got a hit. Austin Barnes batting last. Gets the bunt and the homer.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Dodgers are a wagon, man. Belly one for four. I'm reading an article about when Pete Fairbanks got called up to the Rangers and made his debut because I'm trying to find out if he's a brother or not. I mean, he does. We met him at breakfast. Paul Fairbanks. And it opens up with talking about his debut.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Fairbanks says a quote, not about this at all. And the writer says, said Fairbanks, who admitted to talking to himself on the mound. so just from the jump he's a mountain talker yeah he didn't work his way into that no no no craziest eyes I've ever seen look this yeah dude you know some podcasts have couches in their studios yeah and we sit at computer chairs yes I'm like really enjoying this vibe yeah this is great we I mean I thought we were going to do a lot of content when we originally set up the office from the comfy chairs that hasn't played out as much.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And we'll reevaluate going forward. We need a lot more equipment to do that. Yeah. We got some. Come check it out tomorrow night as we stream. But tonight we're going to the game. Going to the game. Pre-game show.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And sorry that this wasn't on Patreon and sorry that this wasn't live for the patrons. But, you know, you're sorry. You understand. If you listen to us and you know the guy that flew with us today and he's our best friend and I threw something at him, reach out. And that's the episode. We'll be back later. Love y'all. Goodbye.

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