Talkin' Baseball (MLB Podcast) - 237 | World Series Game 5

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

Jomboy, Jake, & Plouffe are recapping Sunday's Game 5 of the World Series! The Dodgers are up 3-2, Manny Margot tried to steal home, and both bullpens did their jobs. See you at Game 6! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello and welcome to talking baseball. The World Series is going on. The Dodgers win another one. Let's talk about it. Hello and welcome to talking baseball. Thank you very much for joining us. My name's Jimmy. Jake's sitting next to me.

Trevor is in California. Producer Bug Bug. Behind the dish coming to your live from the studios, the Roosevelt Studios in Arlington. Trev is at the Magnum Condom Shed. Yes. I'm still here, baby. You look crispy today.

Thanks. I feel great. I'm ready to go. I was telling you guys, like hurricane force winds out here in California. So a little scary because this is a old barn stable. And if a tree falls on it, I'll see you guys in the next lifetime.

How far is heaven? I would like to know. Would you guys show up to my funeral? Like, would you guys be there? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Content me. We're only doing them for a brief amount of time.

So it doesn't really. We're like tied in life events at this point. Like, that's how deep we are, bro. It's true. Yeah. I don't know if I show up to your funeral. I'd have to think about it. I mean, we just brought this really sleek camera that Zach and like, you know,

it wouldn't be. You could just stream it. It would be for content. It'd be for content. We can't. Contact day never sleeps, Treve. That's true. That makes me feel better.

You guys would be there? You ever like to picture Jake dead? And the lady who did the makeup on his body just like, just went crazy. Yeah. Oh, my God. She was like clowned him out in the coffin. Yeah.

I've never seen Jake look so fucking good. Trying to think, well, it would be trying to do somebody else's face would be the best. I just have you like a clown. Yeah, no, I know that's good.

Did he request this? What was he dressed in? Maybe it's just drag Open basket, Jake Like, what are you dressing in? I think I kind of like going Full funeral drag now It's like, wait

What does that mean? Jake went into the afterlife as a woman? She's called yourself, Chase? Chase. Chase. I think maybe I was thinking lace And then I combined it with Jake. I don't know.

I'm always thinking. All right. Hey, the Dodgers won. Big time Someone's grossed out with my feet Yeah I got a comment on my shoes They're trying to style me up Because I've got old man shoes

I think 20 20 Your outfit is ridiculous I think 2021 I'm going stylish I think I'm going to try to be stylish for a year And then never again You have like Quarantine put you into just a weird combination of up and bottoms

Oh, yeah. Like, they never fit. Nothing fits. Like, yeah, your lower half and your upper half, it just... They're always separate seasons, separate occasions. Like, they're never on the same page. Believe me, I know. All right.

The Dodgers win. Jake, do we have a burn? Oh, yeah. Here we do. For anyone that missed it, let's recap and listen to Jake. Burn. Game 5. On you, Mark.

Get set. Burn, Jakey Byr! What do you do for an encore following a historic game for? How about the old bull, Clayton Kirshaw? The moment seems to find him versus the young calf. Tyler Glass now, as both these guys try to fend off different sorts of playoff demons new and old. Top one, I wonder if I'll Corey Seeger again.

Wow, little Lenny Kravitz early in the burn. RBI single. Glass now goes belly up in the first inning as Cody gets the RBI single. 2-0 after 1, 3-0 after 2. Cup check, jockstrap Peterson, Jimmy taps a home run out. But the good Lord said it's time to raise up. The Yandyman can, a triple for the triceps. Randy a Rosarena disappoints with only a single bummer.

It's three, two Dodgers, but Manny Margoe is on third, no outs. Wendell pop out, Adama's strikeout, two outs. Come, Margo, and I want to go home. Mani tries to steal home. Muncie goes all school of rock and says, step off, step off. Curshaw makes the throw Barnes with the tag. Baseball. Dustin's performance may come up big as Gonzales and Trinanin. after him. Both bullpins hold the opposition scoreless, but the Dodgers had the mental fortitude to take game five

four to two. Right. Thank you. You're not into Lenny Kravitz, Trev. I think I am. I'm probably like more into Lenny Kravitz than the average person. Not that I like even have any of his songs

on my phone, but like if I hear a Lenny song, I like it, I think. Who'd you use Lenny for you? only know a few though. I used Lenny Kravitz for Wonderful Cory Seeger again. All of my life.

Dude, that one time Lenny had like that blanket sweater thing on. Do you remember that? You're definitely Lenny Kravitz's swag. Like that's... Like I don't like it for me, but for him, I think you'd do whatever you want to do, man.

Lenny Kravitz is up there on like guys, my mom alluded to wanting to hook up with in my childhood. Well, you know, maybe she did. Yeah, she could have. Hot. Lenny and my mom. That one night when she went to the concert

and was like, oh, my car broke down. Yeah. Jake, I won't be home for supper. What are you guys talking about? You guys lost me. What did you think of this game? Four to two to the Dodgers game. Five, Dodgers one went away. The big play is.

the Manny Margo play. Yeah, that was it. I have Kevin Cash's Puss game up. Have you guys heard what he said about this at all? You have Treve? Yeah. So I have not of you, Jake.

Okay. Can we play a little bit of it? Play it, maybe. We're just going to have to, you know, take the off day and bounce back. And set, whatever he does. And I think Mani just called play, or was that he on his own? And what did you think of it if it was his own? Yeah, you know, as a read, you know, I know, I know Kershaw has the real high

handset, whatever he does. And I think Mani just felt like he had a beat on it that he could time him up. You know, frustrating inning. First, man on third, no outs. Then first and third, no outs. Pop up, strikeout. And then get thrown out trying to

do that. Ideally, we got to find a way to get that guy in to tie the game right there. Thank you. So it wasn't a play. Everyone on Twitter was telling me it was a play. There's no way Mani goes on his own. we went on his own.

That's kind of crazy. Had to. I mean, Coach Ballgame said he's the ooze and oz guy. And, you know, I, um, I don't, we talked about last time on the stream. I don't, I don't hate it. I think that, you know, he knows the offense is struggling. He just saw a guy's strike out, pop up to the infield, and he's like, hey. And maybe he thought about it and they've, maybe they've talked about it with Kershaw

and the way he comes set. that they could do something like that. Or maybe he just thought of it in the moment. I'm not really sure. I don't think he's talked about it yet, but I think it was more of it. The way you should look at it is Kershaw made a great play. I think Margot, like, I think he had a great read on it.

And like, I would venture out of say like seven out of ten times. He's probably safe. Like Kershaw could be able to do that is very hard. I hear what you're saying, Trevin. And I've said all those things about a lot of diving plays, a lot of like close steal attempts before where, you know, both sides had to make a good, play, bad play. Usually if you send a guy home and he's out by less than, you know, a couple inches,

I'm always like, well, it's not a bad send then because it was so close. You know, don't rip the third base coach. But stealing home in that instance, for me, it's hero or zero. and there's no of this like close, you know, close is only for hand-agrade stuff you could do about it because it completely changes the game and it's not necessary. I mean, Keirmeyer's been pretty good with the stick.

So I understand he was like really close to it working. He timed it perfectly. Kershaw did make a really good play, but because the outcome is it's the last out at home, it's horrible. Yeah, I don't know. I kind of split the gap, a little slash maybe lean towards Trevor's side.

And this goes back to kind of everything we've been talking about. I mean, I think the Dodgers are a better team. And I think Manny Margoe, if the Rays are going to do this thing, I think you kind of need something like that. And I almost put more of the onus on Joey Wendell and Willie Adomas. I mean, Joey Wendell pops out to short. He gave it in a bat. Renfro also walked, and that's one of those.

I almost want to go back and watch that at bat because if you're Hunter Renfro and you could have hit a long fly ball and gotten out on a pitch, that would have been more valuable than your walk. I know baseball kind of doesn't work like that, but it also does. Willie Adomas strikes out, you know, and Margot's on third. You're seeing it's lefty on lefty.

I know Keirmeyer has been a very much of a threat this postseason, but a guy not known for his hitting. And Margot's been making it happen. And, Jim, like you're saying, the zero hero thing, I also agree with that. but I also like the race going for that move because I think that is one of their best options there and, you know, our Dodger fans were hitting us up

and they're like, oh, they let Kirshaw off the hook. Yeah, a little bit. Kirshaw also struck out Willie Adomis. Kirshaw also got Joey Wendell to pop out to short. So Kershaw ends up with a really nice start in this game. He's having a really nice postseason. I like it. I mean, I don't want to kill him.

I'm surprised people thought it was a called play because, I mean, how can you call a steal from home? Me too. Well, we were doing last year, I wasn't getting in a Twitter war with people, but I was like, that doesn't make sense. That's, you know. That's such a feel.

You have to feel it. You should have force a guy to steal home. And he's really close. And, hey, you know, kudos to Muncie, who helped get Kershaw's attention. Kudos to Kershaw for stepping up up and making that throw in a World Series game. And kudos to Barnes, who, you know,

Margo's coming in full speed. we saw, what was it, Will Smith the other day, not squeeze the ball on the throw home for Muncie. Like a catcher's glove is kind of a different thing. So he makes the squeeze, he makes the tag. I think it was, you know, you can't give Manny Margo credit because he got thrown out stealing home in the World Series. You do have to give the credit to the Dodgers,

but I'm kind of not giving Manny hate. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I said what I said. I mean, he had to run it by the third base coach. Typically, that's something that he would do. He's in your ear, in between pitches. And as soon as Renfro gets on first base and Kershaw has a, like a vantage point, has to go on the stretch, has to look over that way,

he's going to give that big set that he does, the Kershaw set. And I'm, I got to be, I feel confident that he talked to the third base coach and was like, dude, I think I can steal home right here or at least can get him to Bach. That is, maybe that's how I would have approached it. Is Turner was, I don't know where he was playing. He was obviously off enough that Margot was able to get a big lead.

So what you can do in that instance is break for a home and try to get Kershaw just to step off and maybe Bach, then stop. And maybe that would have been the better play and then let KK hit. and if he gets down to two strikes, you send Renfro, he gets in a run down at second base. Maybe you try to steal a run that way. But Margot made his decision.

I think whether or not making the decision was the right move, the execution of it was right. Like he read it right and just Kershaw just made a hell of a play. So I think we can all, we can argue all day about whether it was a change the game. It changed the game. It's all up there on that. You know, he's out, so we know the outcome of it. But, I mean, yeah, that was, that ending, and I'll encompass all those things into one.

That ending was, that was the ball game. Like they needed to tie the game up there to start the game over, get the momentum, but they didn't. Yeah, the inning before, Trev, the third inning, we talked on the stream, and you were like, uh-oh, now Clayton's going to get roughed up too. And I said he could have one bad inning as long as he's doesn't have another bad inning and it's not and he can get himself to six two he didn't get all the way to six

i think he could have um but this was their second chance like if margot stays there and kiermiar bloops one or blast one or does something now kershaw's had two innings where he gives him up runs and you wonder how much that changes his hook how much that changes the rest of it so just giving him outs on the base path in general i think was a dumb like make him make him get the batter out uh Yeah. If it would have happened with less than two outs, I would be 100% on your side. But when you get to two outs and you're on third base, you start to do some silly shit. Like I said, like if Kirrmeier gets the two strikes, they're going to send Hunter Renfro.

And he's going to try to get in a run down. You're going to try to steal a run any way you can. So I think, I mean, I don't know. Everyone's going to have a different opinion on it. Obviously, it didn't work. So, like, that's the main thing. I'll relate it to what we talked about the other day. You referenced the Alex Gordon play in that San Francisco.

World Series a couple years ago where Alex Gordon ends up on third and it becomes that never-ending mystery. Does he get pegged at the play? Or is it like the Randy Rosaray to play where baseball happens and things get crazy? They tried to make that happen. And I think if it was the Dodgers trying to make that happen, I'd be sitting here saying like, Dodgers, you guys are a better team. You don't have to be digging for stealing home.

But the Rays, you know, they are outgunned. So they got to pull out some tricks. So that's where I give them a little credit. and, I mean, bringing it back into this game path, we were, what, three, two in the third inning. And if I told you guys that, I mean, we would be saying, okay, this game is going to be insanity. We're probably going to end up at 10-9. So kudos to the starting pitchers for kind of dialing it back in Glass now after the tough start, Kershaw with just a good start in general.

And then both bullpins, man. How about that? We, you know, as not really a Jakey joke, just Jakey. who loses a lot of bets in the pregame show. I was saying everything points to the over. That's when sports strike and the under comes in. And these bullpins both go shuddy after getting roughed up the entire series.

Well, they didn't use... The Rays didn't use Anderson or Fairbanks. Castillo has a nice bounceback loop, just doing what he does. And how about Sheriff? Fucking loop, man. Get out. out of here.

He's their best. So this is interesting. We're talking about Castillo and, you know, he's, he pitched back to my days, has the up there. He pitched one in a third inning and three, eight pitches. Yeah. That's got to make Cash feel really good about bringing him back after the off day. Like, they're, they're fully guns, ready to go.

And so it's going to be. Yeah, the only problem is. No bullpen against Dodgers bullpen. They use their, uh, they need to flip their winning formula and they're losing formula. because these guys are better than bringing Anderson into a game. Like if the Tampa Bay Razor thinking, we got Snell, we got Anderson for two, it's like, okay. They need, and this will be a preview in game six when we do it tomorrow,

and we said this two games ago. You need to find a lane for Anderson to succeed. Like, I don't know if it's, hey, dude, if we need to get out of an inning in Pollock and Keeke are there, it's all you. I wouldn't use them. You got the off day now. You got a lot of people arrested.

Everyone that pitched in the game we're recapping now, I wouldn't use Anderson tomorrow or the rest of the way. I think they're going to. He was a guy who's their best reliever during the season. If you can find him a two-out lane or even a one-out lane in game six that you could potentially have him available for game seven, I think that could be impactful. I would agree with you that they are going to use him.

I wouldn't do it if I was them, but we'll see. the Dodgers have a plan and they get to stick to it and works pretty good they go Kershaw to Dustin May which I said I thought was going to be the plan but I'm a little confused why you would do that now knowing Urias is pitching or knowing Gonzalin is pitching game 6

and last time they stacked those two guys so I wonder what the plan is with Gonsolin in game six now but May looked good he needed that he needed to go out there and look good and get some results. He goes 1.2 only give up one hit. Gonzalez comes in for his guys and then trying comes in to end it. They save Gratterol for game six after Gonslyn. But I don't know how they're going to bridge that gap.

I guess we'll figure that out when we get there. But I think they had a plan and it worked pretty well. Dave Roberts, your guy, Trev. Yeah, I mean, look, he, he, he, he kind of went in the middle of what I said. He had a decision to make. Do you let Kershaw, if he's Haman, go through the batting order the third time?

He ended up going three batters in, I believe. So he faced the top three of the order for the third time. And he looked good. He had a couple instances where we thought, hey, maybe things are about to unravel, but he locked it up, did get that big out of Margot on the base pass. And I think what Jim mentioned last night was really smart, bringing in May for the one out,

then next inning he doesn't have to face three-batters if he gets into trouble. I think that is something they did probably talk about and probably did have planned. We've been seeing that a lot, bringing a guy in just for the last out, so the three-batter minimum rule doesn't apply to him anymore for the next inning. Yes. So I think that was really smart. So, yeah, in the end, Kershaw sort of goes through the order a third time. sort of doesn't.

I think it was perfect for Roberts. Like, hey, like, I do have faith in my guy. I did let him face those batters, but he did get him out at the opportune time. Now he's looking, you know, after game, whatever it was, where he looked really bad taking guys out and missing with the bullpen. I think that was game four.

He looked great today. Like, or game five, he didn't, he didn't get in the way of his players. How about that? And he managed the bullpen perfectly. they went out and perform so that always helps a manager but he is one went away from shutting everybody up a little bit some of his comments still are like bad whereas if i think they linger a little bit but yeah and it comes down to the players performing and because i think easily if dustin may gives you

what he's giving you the last three outings easily i'm saying is a dumb decision by roberts i said they shouldn't have done it. So credit to Dustin May for doing it. I guess Roberts are giving credit to him. But I didn't agree with that decision, but it worked out. But I still don't get it knowing they're going Gonsal in game four or six because those guys were the piggyback. Well, I think what it is is that they believe in, they do believe in Dustin May.

And this kind of goes into what's been my young guy postseason speeches. This time of year, you go to the most talented guy. and we normally see young guys get the chance to build themselves up through the season. We didn't get that this year. So I think, and again, it got some groans and stuff out of us. I think the Dodgers, I don't want to say they're okay losing game six, but they're okay losing game six. And I think you have Dustin May kind of fully ready to go for game seven if you need them.

I do think they're like if they have the chance to win game six, they're going to go for it. And that's obvious. You can win the World Series. But if they go down, I don't think they're going to mind not using, you know, Dustin May, who they like or maybe Bruce Star again or whatever it is. Like, I think it's this new age of baseball. We're seeing that.

Yeah, I think it's going to be like Bueller for seven, Bruce Star trying in. Well, if we get to games. I'm giving this a little bit of thought now. The way the Ray is like to stack the lineups. If you have Gonsland and May, those guys throw pretty similar. maybe not, you know, to the extent of the velocity, but they're both right-handed. They both kind of have that two-seamer.

I'm not so sure they won't bring Eureas back on really short rest to back up for a couple of innings. Gonselin. Yeah. He threw 80 pitches on the 24th, so we'll have a couple days of rest. Maybe he can get through two. Maybe that's the extra look they need, the different look they need. Or they could be saving him for game seven,

and they were going to go Bueller Urius, Bruce Star. and they can use other guys. That makes more sense to me. I don't know though. I have no idea. We'll see. 80 pitches on the 24th.

It might be a little too short to bring him back for game six. Definitely game seven. He's going to be ready to go. But maybe he's, that was the plan. Like we don't want to put Gonslant and May back to back because the race can plan for that. It's a little bit of chess playing that the Dodgers are doing.

We'll see. And then. They have SNAP in game six, man. Let's talk about Glasnow and Kershaw a little bit. But before that, first, Jake's going to tell you about Draft Kings. He my Drafking, and you say, I'm a Draft King. Trev, you know this season's in full swing,

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My throat was dry. There's a little gatorade there too for you. And I said water. I couldn't find water, so I got Gatorade. Hey, I've got... I went for water. I got Gatorade. I've got something that just going through the box score now, you know, because a lot happens during a baseball game. Three and a half hours, coach ballgame saying stuff on the live stream. Who knows? How about the first batter of the game? Mookie Betts, eight pitches and hits the double off glass. Now, again, you do this baseball

butterfly effect and you see Glass now settled down and belly hits. gets the infield single on him. You know, that Mookie Betts leadoff double probably doesn't get a lot of highlights. But, I mean, that sets the tone off of Glass Now's playoff stuff. And eight pitch at bat to start the game with the leadoff double, that's set in the tone. Two pitches later, Mookie scores and it's 1-0. And Glass-Nall has another bad outing. Yeah.

I mean, his postseason stats now are garbage. He's got 628 ERA in 28 innings. He has started six games and given up 20 earned runs beyond bad. And I felt bad for him yesterday because there was a moment after Jock hit the leadoff home run in the second inning. You know, 34 pitches in the first and two earned runs and okay, put him. that behind me. I got to move forward. Let's have a clean inning, you know.

And then the first batter goes deep. And then he four-pitch walks Barnes right behind him. And they were doing close-ups on his face. And it was just kind of a guy who was like, what the fuck's going on? Having a bad time. Having a bad time. Yeah. So I felt bad for him.

And then I felt good for him because he did buckle down a little bit after that Jock home run. He puts two guys on base, but he gets out of it. He gets turn it or fly out. in the third inning. He leads off with a single again, but then gets out of that. And then we're like, okay, you know,

been a while since he allowed a run, even though he wasn't good. Like looking back on it now, Trav, it's funny that you and I were like, okay, maybe you put the demons aside because then he got a one, two, three inning. But besides the fourth inning, he didn't really have a good inning.

And then when Monty hits that home run, and that comes right after the Margot. out at home, it's like, you know, this is just a Dodgers game. It's a turn. The bottom line is this guy walks too many people. Like you can go, like he also gives up a few too many home runs, but the walks, you just can't have that. You're putting guys on base for free and they come around to score more often than not. The one gym, you always like to bring up 12 games in 2019 is the only time he's been an exceptional

pitcher in the big leagues. well his walks per nine or 2.1 lowest of his career every other year they've been over three per nine and that's just not good this year they're at three and a half in the playoffs i'm sure they're more so you just he has electric stuff um he did it for those 12 games but unless he figures out how to command his stuff we're going to be thinking about tyler glass now as a flash in the pan and that's not what i think he is or what he can be but until you make an adjustment start controlling your stuff you're going to i mean he's you're going to be a four era guy four and above era guy when that that is not like jim you've pointed out so beautifully this whole posting that's not what he gets touted as he gets touted as an ace and he's not he's only been for 12 games i am you've totally i mean you were right and he's proved you right this postseason. It sucks because I don't want to be like just a jerked guys.

But people were really high on him and I didn't get it. I got it because the stuff looks good. But yeah, I don't know. The media is partially to blame. Well, you see 25 years old, this guy goes to a new organization, has a, you know, revamps his career and kind of maybe finds it. That's a story that's very common in Major League Baseball. So, you know, I think it's okay.

to be optimistic about him. But then, yeah, this year, you kind of reverted back to where he's always been. You know, he had a 408 this year, which is in line with a 443 career ERA. The walks were back up. The strikeouts were really high this year, but it doesn't matter when you're walking a ton of people and you're still giving up homers at the clip that he does. Second highest of his career this year, 1.7 homer per nine. It's a recipe for, you know, a mediocre pitcher.

So he has to figure out that stuff out. Yeah, I mean, if you really deep dive into those, that 2019 season as well, you won't, you won't come out like, I don't know, you'll come out more on our side of things. I think it's pretty, I mean, it's pretty good. Yeah, but go look at the innings. You only have five games where he saw the sixth inning. There was a lot of pitches, man. Yeah. Walking guys.

You know, that's, and we talked about on the stream last night. He's one of those guys, long kind of arm. Coach Ballgame alluded to the smooth, the literal. It lends itself to the batter being able to see the ball well. Doesn't matter that he's throwing a hundred. Doesn't matter that he's got a disgusting curveball. If he can pick out his pitches early, these are big league hitters, man. Like this isn't this isn't rec league.

You know, like these guys are just as good as him. So if you're not able to locate your pitches, you are going to get banged. And we've seen it time and time again. Velo does allow you a little bit more leeway there. but not enough. Yeah. It's the show. He's also not young and not a rookie,

and that's also kind of how they treated him as well. So that was kind of weird to me. He's more like Gialito. Gialito him are similar, but Gialito actually gets better results if you really go down to it. Well, Gialito made a mechanical adjustment. Maybe we're going to see Tyler Glass now figure something out.

Well, he made some adjustment because he has the ability, right? He's better than he was when he was with the pirates, but a lot of people act like this, like, you know, this is first or second year. he's been pitching. The funny thing is he's not that much better. If you really look, he had a really bad year in, uh,

Gialito was better. I just said Gialito's better. I just said Gialito's better. They're the same guy, but Gialito gets better results. Oh, no, I thought you were talking about Glass now.

I'm saying Glass now is kind of the same pitcher he was in Pittsburgh. Oh, oh. Like he had the 2019 outlier year. Uh, then he had one year in Pittsburgh that on the opposite end of the spectrum, an outlier where he had a seven, six, nine,

you know, right? and 15 games started, or 13 games started, excuse me. But other than that, 4.24, 4.27, 4.3, 4.2, and then a 4.0. The only thing I think Jake has brought this up before is that he is super tall, and we've seen tall players like that. Oh, Trev's gone. I'll be back.

Well, we've seen tall players like that take longer to figure out their body. It takes a while. And, you know, you mentioned the 2019 stretch where, you know, things come together and that's baseball a little bit and maybe with his adjustments the game also caught up to him kind of that rookie second time through but also you know some of the innings pitch stuff like that's what the rays do as well you know we we go through some of snell seasons and it's like what i kind of hate the raise yeah i know it's it's it's the raise a little bit so uh he's got all the talent in the world and hey you know if if this is a spin zone for raise fan slash tyler glass now if this does go

seven, that big boy is going to be ready out of the pen. And that actually might be, that might be a really good role for him. If the race can get to game seven and they could find a lane for Tyler Glassnow to empty the tank for one inning, I think he, you know, could show the world how he is so talented and that two pitch mix would play up. But Ray's got to get to game seven to make something like that even an option. Tyler Glassnow's 2020 is over, Jake. Trevor I mean it is If you're cash

You're gonna bring that guy in game seven If you need a bullet Yeah I mean what were you going extra earnings I mean I think if you use Glass Now and Anderson again If I'm a race fan I mean I think that's like

You point the finger at The cash and the analytics people And be like you're idiots Well Nick Anderson's gonna have to pitch again at some point It's the World Series Empty the tank but you don't want to empty the good tank Not the bad tank

Oh you got to get through game six And see what's available This is yeah I mean And if you could get Tyler Glass now Pumping a hunch And snapping curves for I love that Jake I love that I just don't think we're gonna see it

Maybe that is his future Maybe he's Hey man The starting pitcher gig May not be your thing I think the starting pitching gig Is gonna be his thing People pay for four ERAs

Well you missed Trev while I was gone is, well, you were gone, is, you know, he is super tall. And Jake has said this before. There's a history in baseball of super tall pitchers, not figuring it out until, like, they're 30 years old. Because they just got to control, figure out their body for a while.

A lot of moving parts. Like Randy Johnson up until he was, like, 30. The stats aren't amazing. Chris Martin, who's on the Braves now. I mean, you know, tall guy that took a while to figure it out, there's literally more moving parts.

Yeah. Yep. All right. Well, what else do we got? Kershaw was good for Clayton, man. I mean, 5.2 to earn runs. Again, it doesn't look like one of those flashy all-time starts, but this is also modern baseball.

That's all you get. He doesn't even get the shot to get the six, the full six inning. Justin Turner wanted it. You could see Justin Turner saying, you can get this motherfucker on the mound. I think it was more strategy than not believing in. A sentiment and a lot of like former players on Twitter

we're like, you gotta leave him in, you gotta leave him in. And like, that is how the game used to be played. And I know Kershaw's earned everything in baseball. I mean, he's earned everything you could ever earn in baseball. So, like, yes, if there's one guy, like, it could be Kershaw. But we've seen it time and time again, man. It's not the time for puffing your chest out or making decisions based on,

what he's done in the past. We've got to win this game today. What's the best thing for our team today? And I think that's how you have to approach managing in the playoffs and the World Series in particular. So I think he had a great postseason and I think Roberts finally handled him the correct way. But if they win the World Series now

and you can look back and say, postseason Kershaw is a champion. What's his ERA? So far this post season, 2.9.3 now? He dropped it below 3. Yeah, they showed it really. Yeah, it was 2.9, something like that. 10 earned runs.

I'm happy for him, man. Five starts. He's, you know, in L.A., he's known as a very charitable. And I think everyone kind of, obviously everyone loves him in L.A. But around the game as well. So it's, it's nice to see him getting some love in the postseason. I have no idea. Someone, someone tweeted out.

I forget where I read it. I'd give them credit if I remembered. Maybe it was Caravis. Something like, there's no way we don't see Bueller v. Morton in game seven, right? And that made me think that's a hell of a matchup.

That's like a great thing. If that was to happen for baseball and stuff, I don't see how the race win game six. They would just need another crazy thing to happen. Another thing that's like, oh, I can't predict that. Like Margot needs to be safe stealing home and then throw it around. I just don't see it.

I mean, the race won game two, right? Yeah, one game two, six to four. Like they won that game and it's kind of the same thing with almost, I think the Dodgers less willing to use weapons. Yeah, I mean, game two was where we disagreed, where the race won, but I didn't think the Dodgers had anything to worry about because it's Gonsol and Floro Kelly. I mean, you might see that again. No, but you're missing the fact, look, they went, they didn't go Floro Kelly. They went Victor Gonzalez, Dustin May, like same guys they used yesterday. Justin May's turnaround was pretty huge.

They need Gonson to pitch more than 1.1. They need to actually get Gonson some innings there. And that's the other thing. Like Gonson, again, I think there is this world where teams believe in them setting themselves up for game 7 where they could throw Tony G out there for four innings and if he gives up four runs, it kind of is what it is. Like I don't know.

He just need to stop the Dodgers' bats. Yeah, and hey, Snell's done that. And, I mean, it can, you know, it's the same formula. Same formula. Snell, go do your thing, get a lead. If they're out in front, the Dodgers aren't going to use their good pen in game six because all the analytics say don't, you know, if you throw back-to-back days, you're not going to be as good.

If you're the race, you have to get up early in game six. And then I think you're kind of in a good spot. And the postseason's rig, rig. So we pretty much know it's going to go. to a game seven. Yeah. Well, we'll be at game six, so hopefully we get some crazy shit again. I love that.

I think now we're in home run territory. Yes. We thought, you know, Trev, when we clicked on the seating chart, we definitely clicked a section that was to the left of the foul pole and home run. Bill, we showed up. We were in foul territory. MLB duped us. Yeah, that was kind of fucked up. Rob.

Robb's always sticking his, you know, hands where they don't belong. What's that place called Globe Life? That's kind of strange I just said that. I retracted. Wasn't the last one called Globe Life? One's Globe Life Park. One's Globelife Park. One's Globelife Field. Yeah.

It was Ballpark in Arlington for years. Yes. Went Pudge. I mean, Juan Gonzalez, Trevor. You had a lot of him in your games. Of course I've been in the seats there. You had a lot of Juan Gonzalez. your game. He's got some years, man. Oh, my God. That's a good baseball reference.

Those boys used to hit. They were good. All right. I think that wraps up everything from this game. That steel is like the biggest play. Oh, I saw, oh, hey, you guys, it's me, Jake. I saw Petriello had an article today. It was like the play that you probably missed, but was an important play, something like that. That's definitely not what he titled it. We all kind of had this reaction live. The Cody Bellinger catch on the Brandon Lau kind of jam shot, I think it was off of May. You know, again, and do what you want with defensive analytics, but this was the catch probability stuff, which I do like. It brings in a lot of factors.

That was a 48% catch. On that five-star catch scale, it was a four-star catch. And Petriello's article is really good on it. Bellinger got an incredible jump, and he's, you know, one of the top sprint speed guys in the game. And he put some links in there that showed Harrison Bader, who's a great defender, you know, not catch a very similar ball, same exit velocity, blah, blah, blah. And it was just an interesting read because, you know, if Bellinger doesn't get a good jump on that, he catches it standing up in full sprint. If he doesn't get a good jump on that, that becomes very much a coin flip catch. he does. And by the way,

going back to the game before, the Ray's Miracle, Chris Taylor was in center field. Belinger back in there. A play that goes overlooked that in other situations would not. Probably bow-legged out there. Love it. Who's the MVP right now? Seeger?

Kershaw? I think it's Seeger. Bueller, if he comes and deals and Seeger and Turner, to don't show up the next two games and Beeler seals the deal. Maybe he could steal it. I think Seeger right now is the guy. I mean, yeah.

Undecided. Win it in game six. Whoever does it gets it. Or it's Walker Bueller season. He got a one dot in the postseason. 344, 434 on base, 781 slugging. I mean, he's doing it. Yeah, but Kirschaw's a better narrative.

Give me game 7, Walker Beeler. Corey Seeger might say, hey, just give it to Kersh. I don't want to deal with this. Just give it Kersh. He's like, I'm about to get paid anyway. He's got the most hits for the Dodgers. Seeger and Turner tied. They both have two home runs.

What is this all about? What's this all about? How are they? Turner's got eight hits. Seeger's got eight hits. Turner's got four doubles and two home runs. Seeger's got two home runs and six singles. Seeger's out slugging him.

Is that total postseason or is it? No, just the World Series. All right. Well, I got to go return my RV. That doesn't make any sense. Treves returning his RV. That doesn't make any sense. We will see you guys.

Jimmy's going to fight baseball reference. How does slugging percentage work? I know how it does. Send them an email. I like when you contact them. Yeah, DM. I think that makes their. day too.

I DM baseball. I have DM baseball reference a couple times. Mostly, not complaining. Most like, hey, where can I find this stat? Then they help me out.

Tune in for the pregame show tomorrow before game six. We'll be going to the game. Trevor Ploos trying to find a streaming situation. We might set that up from his Trojan condom lair in Calabastie. So, thank you guys. I'm also dropping my mail-in ballot today. vote.

Rock the vote for Jake. No, no, Trevor. No, Trevor. That's how he won class secretary. It's kind of the thing. Class president, thank you. What? Oh yeah, we can't.

None of us are old enough. Never mind. Yeah. So easy it is. The yeas, man. All right, guys, I love you. Are you trying to get whatever this is in before we wrap up? No, I'm doing this from my own state.

Okay. Well, let's say goodbye to everyone. Goodbye. The at-bats are different, so I guess that's different. More walks? How does that, that doesn't come into slugging. Slugging per at bat? Makes sense, right?

Let me do those pipes, bro. Come on. Give me some. Not good. Injured. Hurt.